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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, July twenty six, twenty eighteen, Season fourteen,

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Speaker 1: episode number thirteen. Welcome to another edition of The Break.

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Speaker 1: kind of it's hard to do that. There's only you

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00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 1: got to be a certain level. That's why Jason Witten

429
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,760
Speaker 1: could do that. There's Bryant to me as a leader

430
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,240
Speaker 1: on a different level as far as bringing attitude, bringing

431
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,520
Speaker 1: energy and that kind of stuff. But so from that standpoint,

432
00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 1: from those two things, those two, those two guys will

433
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,640
Speaker 1: be missed. I just put the missed two. I'm I'm

434
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,399
Speaker 1: I'm not really saying the third. Well, we just finished

435
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 1: talking a lot about the secondary room and the lack

436
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,120
Speaker 1: of experience there. So if nothing else, Now, don't get

437
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 1: me wrong, I don't think he was necessarily a great leader. Yeah,

438
00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 1: but what I will say is there was amount of

439
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,199
Speaker 1: experience that when you get out on the field and

440
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 1: you're in the you know, the critical part of a game.

441
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 1: There's experience that he can bring to the table to say, hey,

442
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 1: let's be careful, let's watch out for this, let's think

443
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,119
Speaker 1: about this that maybe some of these guys can't do

444
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,880
Speaker 1: because they don't have that level of experience. I get

445
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 1: your point, and maybe this is just like beginning of

446
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 1: training camp optimism. But like it's all I mean, first

447
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 1: of all, okay, it's not the same position, but like

448
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,640
Speaker 1: Shaun Lee's there, and like Sean shan Lee is, he's

449
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,479
Speaker 1: there for now. Well that's always you got. That has

450
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 1: to be FASTI I mean, that's all we can talk

451
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,720
Speaker 1: about right now, right I mean, I'm not on the

452
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,440
Speaker 1: day on the first day of practice. I'm not worried

453
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 1: about twenty twenty, you know. Um, and I'm talking about

454
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 1: game five, game six, game seven. Hey, I know it's

455
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 1: not quite the same thing, but he'll still be but

456
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 1: he's going away he's I mean, if you watched All

457
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 1: or Nothing, that dude was leading the defensive absolutely absolutely,

458
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 1: But on the field, critical moment of the game, who's

459
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 1: that person that in which secondary group it goes in

460
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,199
Speaker 1: able to she had that experience, it goes back to

461
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 1: what I was gonna say before that, which is like

462
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 1: maybe it's misguided optimism, but like this group doesn't know

463
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 1: what it doesn't know, and I view it as a

464
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 1: good thing, like because you know, Orlando Scandrick a better

465
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 1: player than he got rep got credit for. But like

466
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 1: it's almost like you can get in your own head

467
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,360
Speaker 1: sometimes when when you know when you're experienced that way,

468
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 1: Like these guys haven't been burned to the point where

469
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,160
Speaker 1: they're worried about it, you know what I mean. And

470
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: I think it gives them a lot of confidence. Now

471
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 1: will it always be that way? Probably not, because you're

472
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 1: gonna get beat in the NFL eventually. But I just

473
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 1: love the confidence that this dB group has, and like

474
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,959
Speaker 1: I I don't worry about them. You know, Jason Garrett

475
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 1: loves to like the moment's not too big for him.

476
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 1: Like that's how I feel about these guys, and until

477
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 1: proven otherwise, I just I feel good that they're gonna

478
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 1: be okay with it. Like those guys are not lacking

479
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,640
Speaker 1: for confidence, and I don't like they're not wide eyed

480
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: like looking for a leader. I think they're okay where

481
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: I think that this team is going to struggle at

482
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,360
Speaker 1: times is when you get to those dog days of camp.

483
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 1: You get those days where it's just not for whatever

484
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 1: the reason, the energy levels not what it needs to be.

485
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 1: That's one thing you could always count on with Dez.

486
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 1: Dez was so competitive. He was so high, strong, and

487
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 1: he was always going to get in someone's face, and

488
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: he actually rose that level of competition for everybody around him,

489
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 1: the DBS and everyone's getting involved. This guy's talking trash

490
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: and all this, and next thing you know, you're having

491
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 1: a pretty spirited practice. That's what I think is going

492
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: to be missed. And also Jason Witten was pretty good

493
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 1: at doing that as well. That's where you know, I'm

494
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 1: hoping this year, with the NFL cloud over away from him,

495
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 1: I think Zeke can maybe get back to being Zeke

496
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: a little bit. Last year he was going through the

497
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 1: motions and rightfully so I think he might be a

498
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: guy that can kind of do that. I hope to

499
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: see that. You know, I hate to say reckless, you

500
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 1: know with him, but on the field, just want to

501
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 1: beat He's you know, which will be a five year old.

502
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: They got that little challenge people in practice to make them, yeah,

503
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: get a little angry and then you got a little

504
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: bit of a little more competition. I'll be a contrarian

505
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: again a little bit because like maybe this is controversial,

506
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: like I did, I don't look as at Dez Bryant

507
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: as a leader. He'd been on the team for a decade,

508
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: he was never named captain. He's we know all about

509
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 1: his volatile nature, missing meetings, being late to meetings, skipped

510
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: his MRI. Like he's not Jason Witten in that just

511
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: constant dependability sent what he is. He's just like an

512
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: unbridled spark plug like he just like I mean, he's

513
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: bringing the energy honestly, whether you want him to or not.

514
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think so, like I I I

515
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 1: think there's a difference. I like he he's the emotional

516
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 1: core of this team. Yes, But like like Jason Garrett

517
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: always says this too, like are you looking at Dez

518
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: Bryant like be like that guy in every facet of

519
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: a football player? Like No, I don't think so. Um,

520
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is is that he did things

521
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: his energy brought to the point that other people followed suit. Yeah,

522
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: and that therefore you are a leader. I'm not saying

523
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: a good leader. I'm not saying you go. You know,

524
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 1: he is the front line of defense and in a

525
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 1: model citizen. I'm just saying he was a leader in

526
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: that standpoint. Yeah, No, I mean and you for sure.

527
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: And that's that's something that the team right now. I

528
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 1: don't know who has that other than Sean Lee. How

529
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: I see it is like both does and went and

530
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 1: have been the face of the franchise for so long

531
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 1: already that coming in as new guys, you see, you

532
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: idolize them, you want to be like them. So coming

533
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 1: in you are next to an idol, a guy that

534
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 1: you admire, not necessarily for their leadership as far as does,

535
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: but someone you want to be like them and be

536
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: better and maybe perform good in front of them, not

537
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: be embarrassed like oh here's my idol and now he's

538
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: watching me and now I suck. No, you want to

539
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 1: do good the famous word I thought. So that's how

540
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 1: I mean. That's for me what is gonna be missed

541
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: as far as the dynamic in the group, just having

542
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: that kind of person that ups the level and makes

543
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 1: you want to be better in him and press them.

544
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: I think that this those two guys being gone will

545
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: probably you know, in a way help DA's leadership because

546
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: you know, if Dak sits there and we saw it,

547
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: we saw Chad's green jump offsides whatever, and Dad, you know,

548
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: put the ball in the ground and yelled at him

549
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. But Witton had a

550
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 1: lot of penalties too. Des Brian had to be told

551
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: where to line up all the time. You're not yelling

552
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: at those guys in practice because of what might happen

553
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,479
Speaker 1: after that. UM gets to a point where Dak is

554
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 1: the main guy and the leader. Now if Kitty do that,

555
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: the tyrant smith does he need to you know, good

556
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 1: luck with that. But but that's where it needs to

557
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 1: be because now all the receivers, he should be able

558
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 1: to do that, all the tight ends. For sure, he

559
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,040
Speaker 1: should be able to kind of be the leader. And

560
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: UM so hopefully that that'll happen with him a little bit. Yeah,

561
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: we have him in used to the quarterback being in

562
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 1: the guy that kind of sparks the team. A lot

563
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: of teams are about like that, right, But but maybe

564
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: that's what's gonna happen is that you're yeah, but I

565
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: don't I don't think he had to be because there

566
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: were other guys that always when he came in when

567
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: he became the starter. There were all sorts of leaders

568
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: on this team, right, but even beyond that, as time

569
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: kept going, you know, there were other guys that kind

570
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 1: of assumed that role more than he had to. Now

571
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean he wasn't leader. I'm not saying he

572
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: wasn't a leader. I'm just saying he never was. To me,

573
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 1: it wasn't didn't seem like he was kind of the

574
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: spark club like you said, Dez was that. Dez was

575
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: that guy that something happened in practice and he could

576
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: have in just a split moment, something could happen to

577
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: where he could spark enough anger by somebody else where.

578
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: Now offense and defense are going at it, and you

579
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: got yourself a good spirit, remember they And there's a story.

580
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 1: But because he used to steal our golf cart, oh

581
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: go cart all the time. He would just you know,

582
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: and so we were that, all right, you can have it.

583
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,959
Speaker 1: Your backs messed up up, and you know you can

584
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: have it. Just put a helmet cam on for one

585
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 1: practice and let's get a video out of it. He's like, Okay,

586
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: I'll do that. I stole their golf cart. I'll do it.

587
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: So we put it on. He goes, you guys probably

588
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: know this story, puts it on, and we're like, oh,

589
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: this is good. We can kind of start already start

590
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: to hear some of the things he's saying and like

591
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: this is gonna be great, and trying to figure out

592
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: how I'm going to get this on camera. But he's

593
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: walking for it, go for it. I can't. He's walking

594
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: out to practice and he's got it and he's like, oh,

595
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: this is cool, and we're all listen to it, and

596
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: he's like, he doesn't he doesn't initialize it. He says,

597
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: let's f him up today, Like I mean, just yelled

598
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: it as loud as he could and he kept doing

599
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: it the whole time. He probably did it on purpose.

600
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: But so now we really can't use it. But but

601
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: you could see in the huddles and stuff he actually

602
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: has more of that leadership qualities than you didn't. I

603
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: think a lot of people thought it from him. So

604
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: but Dak's gotta be that way. Dak's gotta be the guy.

605
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I've said it several times. He's he's the guy,

606
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: and this offense has been you know, tailored for him. Yeah,

607
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: I think there are three things that the Cowboys can miss,

608
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: and we've kind of talked around them, but I want

609
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,959
Speaker 1: to get definitive words to meet you guys, what you

610
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: think will be the biggest void. It can be in

611
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: the experience, it can be in leadership, it can be

612
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: in passion. Let's go around the table. I want each

613
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: you to tell me which one you think will be

614
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: the biggest void that'll be left by those guys being gone. Experience, leadership,

615
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: or passion. Let's start with you, Dave. Passion just and

616
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: I mean maybe it's overrated because like it's fun for

617
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: us to see, you know, I mean Dez and Sean Lee,

618
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: Jason Jason Witten is underrated in terms of like the

619
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: way he used to carry himself on the practice field.

620
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: I don't know who that is now. I mean, Shaun

621
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: Lee's still here for sure. I think I think Jordan

622
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: Lewis and Cheeto Woozier will bring an element of that.

623
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: I hope Zeke brings an element of that, but I

624
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: don't know for sure. And other than that, I have

625
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: no idea. I mean, I don't worry about experience because

626
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: like there's experience all over this team, like the whole

627
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: I mean, the offensive line is experience as you want

628
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: to get Zeke for being a young guy is insanely

629
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's all over the place. I don't

630
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: care about that. And there's plenty of leaders here too.

631
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: I don't know who's going to be the spark plug

632
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: for this team the way thats was Garcia. But see,

633
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: I wouldn't go with passion just because you have I mean,

634
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: these guys have to be passionate. You have so many

635
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: young guys coming in playing in the NFL, playing for

636
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. I mean, you have to be so

637
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: passionate about it and so excited and you're so new

638
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: to it that you want to do your best and

639
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: do well. So I would go with probably leadership, although

640
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Speaker 1: we have the only guy thinking about it would be

641
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Speaker 1: shun Lee that I would be like, oh my god,

642
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Speaker 1: that my eyes spark up and I admire him, you know,

643
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: And we talked about Dak and all that, but I

644
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: just isn't there yet. I don't know. We'll see how

645
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: he does this year. But I would say I would

646
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: be lacking leadership good list Derek, because I'm gonna go

647
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Speaker 1: with experience very good. So the reason for that is

648
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: because especially when I look at Witton and Dez at

649
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: those positions, you really have a lot of your lacking

650
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: experience there and you need to be on the same

651
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: page with your quarterback. So I think with those two

652
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: guys you have tight ends. I mean, was it nine

653
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: catches combined for all of the tight ends out there?

654
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: The receivers. There's a lot of new faces there as well,

655
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: and we've already seen it. These guys aren't on the

656
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: same page with their quarterback. There could be some issues. Now.

657
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: Now I understand that Dez and Dak, I mean that

658
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: just because that he was here for eight years doesn't

659
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,959
Speaker 1: mean that they were on the same page. But I

660
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: do think those two positions you're gonna see a lack

661
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: of experience there that that's what needs to be fixed

662
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: really quickly here. All right, Yeah, I'll say, you know,

663
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: it's kind of scaring me a little bit. It's probably

664
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: second time on this show, maybe a second time ever.

665
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,479
Speaker 1: I'm actually agreeing with Dave on this one, mainly because

666
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: because what I look at all of this, I think

667
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: from the stad one, you know, rap music don't get

668
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: me started. Well, the thing about it is, when you

669
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: look at what this team does well What would you

670
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: guys say, is the thing they do best run the ball.

671
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: Run the ball, And we can talk about running the

672
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: when they when they run the ball, they're really good.

673
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: You're really good at getting right there. If you think

674
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: about them running the ball, that's where their experience is.

675
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: And so what they do best, they've got tons of experience,

676
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: They've got tons of leadership there. So I think from

677
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: those standpoints, I'm a little less concerned in those two areas.

678
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: I'm most concerned about what happens in week two. I

679
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: heard you say an amber that these are young guys,

680
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: they should be excited about this opportunity. They're going to

681
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: be excited. Yes, today, they're gonna be flying around. Tomorrow

682
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: they're gonna be flying around. What's gonna happen like next

683
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: Thursday or Friday after they've had all these days the

684
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: same thing. The monotony of going to meetings, going to practice,

685
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: going to walk through, going to lift weights, Like, after

686
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: a while, there's a monotony that sets in. And if

687
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: there isn't somebody out there that can take what is

688
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: just a going through the motions and turned it into

689
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: who means now you and I personally are competing because

690
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: I just called you out, then you missed those opportunities

691
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: of those practices turning into a really great competitive situation.

692
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: Are you saying that they need to be to be passionate,

693
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: They're gonna need that somebody to be that, you know,

694
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Speaker 1: to actually get him in gear, which would be to

695
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: her point of leadership, and mean maybe to my point

696
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: of experience. Well, but here's the deal. I'll give you

697
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: the example. I think we're all right. I think I

698
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: think leadership recognizes it. I don't know if leadership always

699
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: has the ability to be a spark club. Right The

700
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: leaders out there may know, yeah, hey, here's a problem,

701
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta pep this up, and then they say,

702
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: come on, God, just pep it up. May not may

703
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: not do enough to get the passion in. It's being

704
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: able to literally say as we saw Witten do where

705
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: he calls out of guys, says get the scrub off

706
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: the field, and now the defense is like, oh, he's talking, okay, look,

707
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: you know it's that kinds toes a little more pass

708
00:33:55,200 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: We've seen the we've seen all of that gone to waste.

709
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: Where did that take you? Well, but just because you're

710
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: doing the right things, and the results don't end up

711
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: being what you wanted to be. Doesn't mean you stop

712
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: doing the right now, I get it. But what I'm

713
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 1: saying it's like, Okay, clearly that went to waste great players.

714
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: I mean you could have gotten des Bryant. We know

715
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 1: he had talent. He has talent, it just wasn't It

716
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: wasn't working out when we know what he could do,

717
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 1: and unfortunately him and Tony ended up going away without

718
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: you know, winning a championship. Yeah, so it's sad. It's

719
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: sad to see those kind of talent being wasted and

720
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: not being well used. Now you have a team, a

721
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: young team that it's absolutely unknown and maybe I mean

722
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: maybe was the coaching, maybe was the players. We don't

723
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: know yet. We'll see once we get on the field.

724
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: But this unknown makes you, I mean, you have no

725
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: other way but to be excited for it and hope

726
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: that it turns out the best way. Absolutely, And to

727
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: be honest with you, I'm more excited about this training

728
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: camp that I've been about a camp in a long time,

729
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: mainly because there is the unknown. You don't know who's

730
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: gonna be the guy that steps up. By the time

731
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 1: we were done with this camp, it's very real and

732
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: very possible that we're talking about all these voids and

733
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: very easily somebody steps into each of them. We'll find out.

734
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 1: Maybe it's Alan Hearns, it comes out here and provides

735
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: a spark plug for him. I don't know. I haven't

736
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: seen him in a practice situation. Maybe it's Terence Williams.

737
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,919
Speaker 1: The point is we don't know all those things yet,

738
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: and that's what makes this camp I think particularly exciting

739
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: for me at least, and for death that you were

740
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: talking about deaths and the you know, the passion that

741
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: he brings and all that stuff. It's fun to watch

742
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: him on the field here at practice, But what did

743
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: that do during game days on the sideline? How did

744
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: that affect that in the meeting rooms? As we saw

745
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: that wasn't also positive thing exactly. So maybe that's just

746
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: what Dad needed, you know, a little silence, Let me

747
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: focus on the game, let me watch this little thing

748
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: on the iPad, Let me figure out what I need

749
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: to do and get on the game. Don't need anyone

750
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: yelling at my ears, you know. Although it was it

751
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 1: came from a good heart, but maybe that's the change

752
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: it needed to happen. You know, I think I think

753
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: with Dez, the thing that made him so great is

754
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: the thing that made him kind of a pain in

755
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: the ass sometimes. I mean it was that it was

756
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: that emotion. Maybe make that's I don't know you can

757
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: say the same for Witten. But I mean, you know

758
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: there's a chance that this, you know, this offense can

759
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: be And you guys actually said it more in the

760
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: offseason I think than I did. But but I'm coming

761
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: around a little bit. I think this team can be

762
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: a little bit more balanced than they were, um maybe

763
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 1: without Witting, you know, just because that's the hope, just

764
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: because of you can you you can do more things,

765
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: and you could probably be more vertical, you know, in

766
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 1: your in your passing game with him and and and

767
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: just have different guys out there. I mean, I was

768
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: still playing at a at a pretty high level. So

769
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to replace Production or Witten. Oh well,

770
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: I mean there's too I mean, this team's don't think

771
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: is the best wide receiver was the best receiver on

772
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: the team. I think we did agree on that, I

773
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: and that maybe we got to see more from Buttons

774
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 1: from Herns, but but I honestly, I don't I don't

775
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: know if I would say where Dez is at this

776
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: point in his career, um if if he is a

777
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: better player than what Alan Hearns is, I'm not certain

778
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: about that. We will find that out, all right, Let's

779
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781
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782
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,920
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784
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,520
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785
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786
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Speaker 1: We found out yesterday in the pre US conference. Um

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837
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Speaker 1: and I I did a double take, and Brian was

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Speaker 1: are you saying he's not coming at all? That was

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Speaker 1: a bit of a shock for me. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you guys saw it as such or you kind

844
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Speaker 1: of had heard things before, but straight to the tent

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Speaker 1: a douche contrarian for the third time on this show? Sure?

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Speaker 1: Why not? You are? I didn't. I I'm not gonna

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851
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: didn't know that, but like I wasn't surprised at all.

852
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: Well that's no, it's it's not a matter of being

853
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: surprised you anymore at all. I mean, he's not gonna

854
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: surprise That's what that's that's the point I'm trying to

855
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: make it like to this, like David Irving's reputation at

856
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: this point is like unpredictability and is unreliability a word? Yeah,

857
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: sure you can't on him, So like it was new information,

858
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: but I was just like, oh yeah, I mean, okay,

859
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: well makes sense. Like literally, the last time we talked

860
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: to David Irving in June, he was like, I'm good. No,

861
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: well he would he said, he he did say he

862
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: was good, but he was also like, I got a

863
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: lot of stuff going on in my life that y'all

864
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: don't even know about it, and like it just sounded

865
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: like that, like exactly, he's just like man like and

866
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: you know the you know them, the domestic violence allegations,

867
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: which you know were recanted and the league said he's

868
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: not gonna face punishment, but he was like, he's like,

869
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 1: that's the least, that's the smallest problem in my life.

870
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: And I was like, if that's the smallest problem in

871
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: your life, you got some stuff going on, my guy.

872
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: So again, I'm not surprised. I mean, I was surprised

873
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 1: to hear that, but like in the grand scheme of things,

874
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: I'm just like yeah, okay, that's David Irving at this point.

875
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 1: The thing about him is that he's done this before. Obviously,

876
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: you know, he's been suspended four games. He comes in

877
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 1: and it just starts making plays. I mean, he played

878
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,919
Speaker 1: eight games last year and got seven sacks. How many

879
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: linemen in the league are doing that? Literally, like Aaron

880
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: Donald and not a lot of other people. He doesn't

881
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 1: have fifteen sacks. Did he have fifteen sacks last year

882
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: in sixteen games? Oh no, But I'm like something like that.

883
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: He's a he's a defensive tackle who can produce sacks

884
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: like that, and so and so. Yes, it's easy to

885
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: sit there and everyone does it and go cut him take,

886
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 1: you know, and just just let him go. But he

887
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: doesn't count as a roster spot. He's he's losing his

888
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: own money, you know, by by by being suspended. And

889
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: I think that he'll probably come in in week five.

890
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: I don't know what he's gonna look like because he's

891
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: not getting any work out here, but he's gonna come

892
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: in Week five, maybe he plays, maybe not week six,

893
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: he'll probably be making a sack. That's that's what's That's

894
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: what kind of sucks about it is I see, I'll

895
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: be curious because this time last year I wrote him

896
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: off because he was suspended, and he came out and

897
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: played great when he was available. I can't I get it.

898
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 1: I get what you're saying, but like, he's not gonna

899
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: pray that's gonna be that, it's gonna be different here,

900
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: it's not gonna do and we solve this offseason. When

901
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: he's not with the team. He looks like a defensive tackle,

902
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: way more like a defensive tackle than what he looked

903
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: like last year. So he I mean, what what will

904
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,240
Speaker 1: he look like? But I can I mean, the Cowboys

905
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: are just gonna look at it like we know what

906
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: we've already. I think I think those restricted restricted money

907
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: is guaranteed, but I don't know what happens if you

908
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: get suspended in the middle of it. But it just

909
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense to cut him. Does it make you

910
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 1: think at this point that there is a better shot

911
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: of him actually being on this team beyond twenty eighteen?

912
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: The reason why I say that, well, we'll need to

913
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: tell why I say that is because, um, under these circumstances,

914
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: it's I think you're hard pressed to assume, no matter

915
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 1: what happens, that he could go out and command anything

916
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: significant in free agency. Um, if if this becomes an

917
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: unrestrictive free agent, and knowing how this team operates, if

918
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: if a guy shows that he really has gone out

919
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: and done something to h to take care of the

920
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 1: issues that he may be dealing with. Let's say, for example,

921
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: he goes to rehab and he can get himself right,

922
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys feel good that he's on the right path.

923
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: Then if the money then becomes cheap and you feel

924
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: like he's on the right path, and let's not just

925
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: overlook the fact that the guy has talent. When he

926
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: comes out there and plays, and when he's available to play,

927
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: he actually has made a significant number of plays for

928
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,439
Speaker 1: this team. So that all being said, do you think

929
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: that with this latest issue that maybe if he can

930
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: get himself right, there's a better chance that he ends

931
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 1: up being here than otherwise. I don't. I mean, if

932
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: he gets himself right, yes, but I think it's maybe

933
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: too late for that. It's you don't want a guy

934
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: that brings those kind of problems and he creates a

935
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: problem with the group. Within the group your teammates. You know,

936
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: you want to make sure you're playing next to a

937
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: guy that you can rely on and that it's bringing

938
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: something positive, not a guy that keeps falling back, you know,

939
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: and doing those kinds of things. And he's absolutely sad

940
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: because I love David Irvan, I love his personality, I

941
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: love the way he plays, but it's just a waste,

942
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: you know, you can't have those kinds of things. And

943
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: you know, I'm the first person that has said Randy

944
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: Gregor will not play another snap for the Cowboys. That's

945
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: just what I've said that. Um, I don't know if

946
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: I believe that anymore. He's made a lot more strides

947
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: than I ever thought he would now he's still got

948
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: a few more hurdles to go. I mean, it's not

949
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: like it's definitely gonna happen. Um. But that being said,

950
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: it's hard for me, I guess just right off David Irving,

951
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,439
Speaker 1: But I just don't see all those if if if

952
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: if if if if next year, that's a lot of things.

953
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: I don't know him see it. For him not to

954
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: be here, I think it's really big. I think it's

955
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: a big deal. Yeah, what what's more important than this? Really?

956
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: I mean, what what is I know, you've got a

957
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: lot of stuff going on but I mean what just

958
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: being signed this year was like another chance to me.

959
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: You know, he was already suspended last year. Well there, chill,

960
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: that's the part Bennett had got it, I got you know,

961
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: it's his mental health and his family, I guess are

962
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: more important than this. But the fact that the fact

963
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: that he couldn't get all that together in a timely

964
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: fashion in order to be a training camp, it's you know,

965
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: it's it's a troubling continuation of a pattern. Which yeah, no,

966
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: Nick's completely right, Like I'm not writing anything off. Just

967
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: basically the fact that Randy Gregory is in camp at all, yeah,

968
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: means I'm not writing anything off. But I have a

969
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: hard time seeing the Cowboys wanting to marry themselves to

970
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: David Irving for any significant length of time, like if

971
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: if they want to do another one year deal with

972
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 1: him next year and you know, if he plays well

973
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 1: or whatever. Mate, But you know, nothing that has happened

974
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: so far leads me to believe that this is a

975
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: guy that you want to like build your defense around,

976
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, so, looking at the

977
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: overall look of the defensive tackle position, Malik Collins starts

978
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 1: training camp on NFI you got David Irving not here.

979
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 1: Those are two guys you would project as your starters

980
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: at defensive tackle if you were making this assessment back

981
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: in March. That being sid where do they currently stand

982
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 1: at the defitsive tackle position. This is a huge opportunity

983
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: for Dayton Jones and Jihad Ward. They already got a

984
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: lot of opportunities in the spring because they were You're

985
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: starting the tackles because for the same reasons, they have

986
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 1: an awesome chance to showcase themselves and one of them

987
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 1: is probably going to be a starter on day one.

988
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: I actually was talking with Brian about that yesterday. As

989
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of debate about whether you

990
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: play mo Leaque at the three or the one, and

991
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,720
Speaker 1: what you decide to do with him could probably dictate

992
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: what you do with your other tackle because Jihad Ward's

993
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: more of a three technique and Dayton Jones is more

994
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: of a one right now, so you can kind of

995
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: play around with that, and it's all I mean, it's

996
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: a big opportunity for guys like Brian Price, Lewis, Neil

997
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: Richard ashe Goodness, who's the other Daniel Ross. I mean,

998
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: it's you know, no offense to those guys. It's certainly

999
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: not a who's who of like blue chip talent, but

1000
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: they're going to have a chance to make the team

1001
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 1: that they might not have had before. And I really

1002
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: think that coney eally is going to factor into that

1003
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: position as well. I just think he will be a

1004
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: better option than Tyrone Crawford to move inside, uh Taco

1005
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 1: or any of those guys to move inside. I think

1006
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: you're if it depends on what you get with Gregory,

1007
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: but that's another guy on the outside. Got Tyrone Crawford

1008
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: was slimmed down. Looks really good, you know, regardless of

1009
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: what Madden thinks him, he actually looks good. I mean

1010
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 1: there's a there's there's some conversation on the internet too

1011
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 1: that maybe you flop Tyrone back to tackle, like he's

1012
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: gonna need to eat cheeseburgers every day for a month

1013
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: to play tackle the mad and they're gonna have to

1014
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: call him back. Yeah, like you were right? Did you

1015
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: delete that because I mean, it ain't it ain't happening, which, yeah, no,

1016
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: And I'm cony Eely. My gosh, he's a massive dude.

1017
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 1: He's a big boy, So I mean, yeah, that's certainly

1018
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: to me, like Jay Ratliffe in that of like something's wrong,

1019
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: like he looks mad. You know, he's good with that.

1020
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: I know he's got bad intentions. It's like that's good.

1021
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: But he's actually he's he's a very nice in person,

1022
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 1: Unlike Jay Jay was kind. I mean all the time.

1023
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: It's not like all the time. It was like ten

1024
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: percent of the time when you catch him on a

1025
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: day when he was where he was in a good mood.

1026
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: That one year when he was going for a contract,

1027
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: he was really nice. Was that whole Like that year

1028
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: you can catch caught him a lot of times he

1029
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: was in a really good move. He engaged ESPN NFL

1030
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: Live where you know, we're going to the Valley Ranch

1031
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: with Jay Ratliff, and he'd been doing an interview and yeah, yeah,

1032
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: I'm not straight up afraid of a lot of cowboys

1033
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: like I was afraid of Jay Ratliffe, Like I never

1034
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: met to meet your so underwoods. No I did not,

1035
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: I didn't meet him. Yeah, there's there's a little bit

1036
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:38,439
Speaker 1: to be afraid of this spellman. Yeah, allan, Yeah, we've

1037
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: had we've had good We've had good luck in my

1038
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: time here. Like for the vast majority of these guys

1039
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: are super nice dudes, and even like Orlando Scandrick was

1040
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: meaning like a fun way, like you know, kind of needling.

1041
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: You know, like Jay Ratliffe just straight up scared the

1042
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: crap out of him. And you know what, he scared

1043
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 1: offensive linemen too, because he was undersized player that they

1044
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: put at the one in the three four defense who

1045
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: just made four Pro Bowls. Up. Keep that guy, no, hey,

1046
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: you know he always reminded me of like I mean,

1047
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: when you think of like in our generation of like

1048
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: you know, eighties and nineties, who's the greatest rebounder that

1049
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: you can remember in the NBA. Rodman was six to

1050
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: eight and kind of skinny. Yeah, but crazy, just crazy,

1051
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: like sometimes the crazy that's what does He's good at times.

1052
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: I mean, ron oar Test was pretty good. He was crazy. Yeah,

1053
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: it's crazy. Yeah, No, we need yeah, who's crazy? Crazy?

1054
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: Got some crazies out here. So there's one one. I

1055
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: just I just see Rico. That's the first guy, number

1056
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: number fifty over there. It's very good at being crazy

1057
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: within the lines of the football field everywhere else. All right, Listen,

1058
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: this this is one thing I think that that I

1059
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 1: think I'm most concerned about when you talk about the

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Speaker 1: defensive tackle position. Um, I think what made DeMarcus Lawrence

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00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: continue to have success throughout the year last year was

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00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 1: that there were other guys at different moments that would

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00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 1: get some pressure, so that it just at least kind

1064
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: of balanced things out a little bit. I'm a little

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00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: bit concerned if you don't have some of these guys

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00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: defensive tackle, MALIEK. Collins, David Irving, I'm a little bit

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00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 1: concerned where that pressure is going to come from on

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00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: that defensive line that's not taken so that teams, Oh, well,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go finish your thought or I'm gonna talk

1070
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: about hold on before we get at the point of

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00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: my question. Let's get an update though on the leak. Yeah,

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00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: I gonna let's not bury MALIEK. Collins, Like, for as

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00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 1: far as I understand it, he will be practicing at

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00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: some point during camp, right, So it's coming back that that,

1075
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: and and he's also proven as a rookie that he

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00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: could do that come off the same pretty much the

1077
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: same type of injury and still be productive. I know

1078
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: you have a theory and you're not wrong that when

1079
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 1: you guys miss training camp, they're really not the same.

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00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: He was one of those exceptions for the rule. Let's

1081
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: see if he can do it again. I still think

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00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,280
Speaker 1: he needs to be playing at the three. I agree

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00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: that's where he's a better play. How many injuries can

1084
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 1: you have of the same kind and comes four? Oh yeah.

1085
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: To the point of what you were saying, Nick, though,

1086
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: if if you don't have David Irving, then maybe he

1087
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: is the option that you push back to three because

1088
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: he may be your best penetrating type defensive tackle that's

1089
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 1: gonna be on somebody to prove themselves as a capable one.

1090
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:22,280
Speaker 1: Whether it's daytoned, I think it's I think he was playing.

1091
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: He was playing, in my opinion, really really well when

1092
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: he got hurt last year, and I don't think he

1093
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: got as much credit, which out of one technique you

1094
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: don't need, you don't necessarily get all that credit. But

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00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: I thought he was a guy that could get a

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00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,720
Speaker 1: little pressure at times, he could collapse the pocket at times,

1097
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: and I thought he held up pretty good, and you know,

1098
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: and on the on the line to make sure they

1099
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 1: weren't just getting blasted. These huge holes weren't happening when

1100
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: he was out there. When did they get Daytone Jones

1101
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: last year. Last Yeah, during the season. Man, this could

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Speaker 1: be a Mark Colombo. Guy's been around a little bit.

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00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 1: Get him late and he comes in, give him the

1104
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: whole off season. Guy has talent, he fits. I mean,

1105
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: he is the quintessential Will McClay edition. Like he was

1106
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: a high draft pick. Didn't work out where he was

1107
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: I think it was Green Bay maybe, yeah, make that up.

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00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: I don't remember, but Brian Price was that way. No,

1109
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,919
Speaker 1: but but Dayton Jones was either a first or second

1110
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: round pick. Like, I mean, he was a talent and big,

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00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 1: you know, put me on a spot. I was sorry,

1112
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: he's probably in his third year, right, No, I think

1113
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: he's this was in Was this in the era of

1114
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 1: the Draft Show when you won the Draft Show? No,

1115
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: it was not. Okay, Uh, you've only been here at

1116
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: Green Bay twenty sixth overall pick with Green Bay. So

1117
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: I was pretty much right. I was pretty much right. Um,

1118
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 1: And so I mean, like I said it, Will McClay

1119
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 1: loves to get those type of guys. Jehad Ward was

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00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: another one. They loved him at the Senior Bowl. They

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00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,240
Speaker 1: traded for him. Probably got picked too high with Oakland.

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00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: He was forty fourth overall. I think their grade was

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00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: like third or fourth round. Uh. So they liked these

1124
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 1: guys and they're they're talented players. Uh and we've seen

1125
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: this work out really well at times before I know,

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00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: I mean he was speaking of crazy, but they got

1127
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: a pretty good season out of Rolando McClean when they

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00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: brought him in in a similar circumstance. Um, I know

1129
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: they've done it with somebody else, but I'm drawing a

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Speaker 1: blank right now. Jonathan Cooper. I mean, you know it

1131
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: didn't get to a Pro Bowl, but top ten pick

1132
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: who started and and acquitted himself pretty well on the

1133
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: defensive line. Other guy that they did that with, Leonard Davis, Yeah,

1134
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: top pick that came out. I think he got here

1135
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: and played a lot better than he'd be that that

1136
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 1: was a parcels um theory that he actually got from.

1137
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: I think Tom Landry, Well, it might have been both.

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00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, but I'm just saying at

1139
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: some point somebody thought this guy, come, no, you know

1140
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: who that was. I think it was Al Davis did

1141
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 1: he said he got that from. But anyway, go ahead.

1142
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: It's it's something that they they love doing that, Like

1143
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: you got a lot of talent. It didn't work out

1144
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: where you were, come try it out here. It has

1145
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 1: worked out really well at times. It definitely hasn't always

1146
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: worked out. There have been some guys that they cut um,

1147
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,280
Speaker 1: but hey, yeah, like they're gonna have the opportunity because

1148
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: the preferred starters are not capable of playing right now,

1149
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: so it's on them to Jones on four teams last season. Yeah,

1150
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: that Vikings, Vikings, Lions, Niners, and Cowboys. Everybody's trying to find.

1151
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: Everybody's trying to find what's actually impressive what he was.

1152
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 1: If you've got the talent that gets you drafted in

1153
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: the first round, you're gonna get opportunities in cases. I

1154
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 1: always say this in the NBA. These guys, he didn't

1155
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: even know who that is. Ron Mercer him drafted. He

1156
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 1: was in Kentucky, like fifth or sixth overall pick. I

1157
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: played only fourteen teams because everybody kind of thinks, you know,

1158
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,959
Speaker 1: we can fix this guy. Clifton Gethers. He's about six eight.

1159
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 1: It's like, look the defensive end and everybody had him

1160
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: for a little bit and it's just like I've got

1161
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: to get this guy. Our coaches will fix him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I will say this about Dayton Jones, he's here. All

1163
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: those other teams he wasn't with him in the offseason.

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00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: Offseason Rod Marinelli's he's considered to be one of the

1165
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 1: best defensive line coaches. Work your magic. This is a

1166
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 1: guy that has talent, he's got experience, he's got size,

1167
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: he's got what you're looking forward to her now, he's

1168
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 1: got some stability and more than anything, he's got an opportunity.

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Speaker 1: So all right, we appreciate you guys joining us. We

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Speaker 1: will be back tomorrow. We'll be talking more about what's

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Speaker 1: going to happen out here today. The Cowboys have their

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Speaker 1: first practice this afternoon. It will be at three forty

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Speaker 1: five Pacific time, so it make sure you check us

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Speaker 1: out tomorrow. Till then. For Nick Even, Dave helm and

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Speaker 1: Amber Garcia, I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break

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