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Visit Rapid radios dot com 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:12.200 get sixty percent off and free shipping, Play the Day, 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:14.920 poll questions, stat of the Day, all to that. Forthcoming 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:19.360 NFL camps are open for business, but some players are not. 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:23.760 Terry McLaurin of the Commanders is holding out. This is 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:27.080 one that doesn't make the headlines like Michaeh Parsons, even 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:31.120 Trey Hendrickson, but it should because Terry McLaurin is twenty 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:33.280 nine years of age in the last year of his 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:35.479 deal with the Commanders, and if you look at over 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:39.200 the last three seasons, he's made two Pro Bowls. Last 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:44.280 year second team All Pro, eighty two catches, eleven hundred 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:47.600 yards and thirteen touchdowns, and to be able to help 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:52.640 Jaden Daniels make that transition into a very successful rookie year. 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:56.240 But this isn't getting a lot of attention now. If 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:59.000 he was playing for the Cowboys, it would, but he 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:02.080 plays for the Commander. But the Commanders are on the 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:05.200 short odds of a team that can compete for a 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:09.160 Super Bowl this year, certainly more better odds than the Cowboys. 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:13.959 But Michael Parsons situation, which we talked about, is he's 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:17.240 going to be the highest paid non quarterback in the NFL. 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:22.440 It's going to happen. It's inevitable. The question is when 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:25.240 is it going to and is there going to be 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:29.280 any aftershocks because it just feels like Jerry Jones is 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:31.920 saying things, and you say things. He loves to go 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:34.680 to a press conference, hold a press conference, and then 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:37.000 all of a sudden he starts talking, and then you 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:39.480 go down a rabbit hole and then you might be 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:43.280 saying something that bothers that person. Now, I don't know 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:46.720 if Michael Parsons, you know, he doesn't have any other options. 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:49.440 He wants to be a cowboy. He'll be a cowboy. 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:54.840 It's just I don't understand the runway with this. You know, 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:58.680 where you're taking all this time to do what? What 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:02.120 exactly are you accomplish Unless this saves you money because 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:04.640 you don't have to pay him, maybe you hold that 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:08.000 off for a couple of months. Okay, But I just 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:12.240 think trying to get goodwill with contracts with players, you know, 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:14.760 I go back to Trey Hendrickson when the owner who 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:18.360 inherited the team from his dad is talking about Trey 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:23.399 Hendrickson being a little emotional with his contract. Okay, Mike 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:28.320 Brown is being disingenuous to Trey Hendrickson. Mike Brown negotiates 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:32.600 all these contracts. He doesn't have any emotional investment in 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:36.400 this unless you don't listen to him and acquiesce to him, 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:40.560 then he becomes a little emotional. Trey Hendrickson is just 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:44.400 fighting for what he thinks he's worth. He's outperformed TJ. 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:47.280 Watt the last two years. Now, is he going to 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:50.720 get money that is similar? No, but you could have 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:54.240 had him for thirty four million dollars. Now it's gone 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:57.040 up to forty million dollars for these edge rushers, and 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:59.800 Mikeah Parson's probably going to get forty two million dollars. 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:02.960 Just trying to understand the logic of let me take 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:05.760 care of you. And the Eagles they are the blueprint. 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:09.920 They have been brilliant in signing these players, signing them 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:12.280 early because if you look at some of the deals 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:15.800 that they've signed, they got bargains here, and I think 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:18.159 that's where some of these owners they tried to play 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:22.400 hardball here. And do I think Trey Hendrickson eventually gets paid. 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:26.120 I do now at least they were looking at maybe 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:29.200 the trade options for him. Dallas isn't doing that with 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:33.680 Mike Caparsons. But Mike Comparsons spoke yesterday and you know, 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:37.080 Cowboys camp is open, and he was asked if the 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:40.880 Cowboys do want to get a deal done. Cowboys, I 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:42.240 want to get a deal done. 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:45.880 I mean honestly, you know, you know, for me, if 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:48.400 it don't man like I said, I've been pretty consistent. 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:50.680 If they don't want me here, they don't want me here, 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:53.520 I'll go around my business. I understand the nature of business. 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:57.279 Why I said, as long as I'm hearing an under concert, 0:04:57.360 --> 0:04:58.960 I'm gonna do what I have to do to perform at. 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:01.240 The highest level. This is Dan, This is Dan. 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:03.760 You know, there's there's the same way to Jones, j 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:06.320 Jones and Stephen Jones and how did Jerry Jones take 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:07.960 care of their family? It's the same way I need 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:08.919 to take care of my family. 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:09.320 Do I mean? 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:11.560 I got my own three kids of our own, so 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:12.960 we all need to take care. 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:16.479 Of my wanta family. Then you goes, Okay, it's going 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:18.480 to get done. That's why I don't want to waste 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:22.159 your time, you know, talking about the Cowboys. If this 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:24.480 wasn't going to get done, If I thought that there 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:27.080 was a real risk here. Then it's a big story. 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:30.320 I do think it's a story just from the standpoint 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:32.880 of once again it's Jerry doing this. He did this 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:35.960 to Dak Prescott. Remember Dak signed his deal. What was 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:39.480 that the Sunday of the first week of the NFL 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:43.880 season prior to the game. Did you need to go 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:48.279 that far that long to mak him the highest paid 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:50.920 quarterback in the NFL. Seems like you could have done 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:54.840 that earlier. Now you take kind of a slight or 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:58.279 shot at Dak Prescott that he didn't stay healthy. I 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:01.279 had to pay him all this money and Dak Michael 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:03.680 Parsons could get hit by a car, and like, what 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:07.520 are we doing here? You're running a business. It just 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:11.720 feels like this is more entertainment than running a business. Hey, 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:13.880 I'm going to go to a press conference and I'm 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:17.200 going to be all over Sports Center. That's disappointing. If 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:19.840 I'm a Cowboy fan, you just want him to do 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:23.919 it right, Just do it right. Get our guys in. Okay, 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:26.839 you overpaid for Dak, All right, ceedee, Lamb's a really 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:29.560 good player. You're spending thirty million. Mike's going to cost 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:33.560 you a forty two million. Dak cost you sixty million. Okay, 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:36.559 Now let's work on the rest of the roster because 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:39.120 we have to compete in a division that has the 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:42.440 Eagles and the Commanders. You know, the Bengals are in 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:46.120 a division with the Ravens and the Steelers are all in. 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:49.760 Now that's what I don't understand with the Bengals logic 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:53.200 as well. Now you have you know, Mike Brown, the 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:58.440 Bengals president, saying it's foolishness that Shamar Stewart is still unsigned. 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:03.760 In the language here is Stuart wants everything guaranteed, even 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:07.679 if there's conduct detrimental to the team. He wants everything 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:10.320 fully guaranteed. And then Mike Brown said, well, we don't 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:12.800 want to pay somebody who could be in jail, which 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:17.000 is a big leap of you know, faith of or 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:20.400 lack of faith with the guy you drafted. Yeah, but 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:21.920 he could end up in jail, and then I don't 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:24.760 want to pay that. Okay. So this is once again, 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:28.080 it's the Bengals. And yes, they've been to a Super Bowl, 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:30.680 they've been to a Super Bowl more recent than the Cowboys. 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:34.000 But when you have these owners who get involved or 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:38.880 how they get involved, it usually doesn't go well. Most 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:43.320 of your organizations owners don't get involved. They have gms 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:47.320 and coaches who do that. But Jerry loved Jerry is 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:50.520 the coach and the GM and the owner. And you know, 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:53.960 after a while, you go, it's unfortunate because I would 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:57.360 say to Michael Parsons, you could assign Michael Parsons to 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:01.040 a deal that was less than teach Jay Watt or 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:02.920 Miles Garrett. You could have done this. You could have 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:06.720 been proactive to say, dude, you're our guy, and you 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:09.680 could have saved some money here. And this is all 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:12.920 about squeezing everybody in that salary cap. And this is 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:15.880 a team that is so top heavy. I mean, is 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:19.960 there another team in the NFL that's this top heavy quarterback, 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:24.680 wide receiver, edge rusher. Is anybody coming close to the 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:28.040 Cowboys in how much money they're spending. But you could 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:30.320 have got ahead of this. You could have done that 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:32.480 with Dak, You could have done that with Cede Lamb, 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:36.080 and you certainly could have done that with Mike comparisons. Remember, 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:39.720 this is ownership that says they're all in. What does 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:43.920 that mean? All in? And then the Bengals you need 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:46.920 defense because the Ravens are going to be a super 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:50.760 Bowl contender. The Steelers probably better than they were last year. 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:56.559 Get in front of this. We know, gone are the 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:01.640 old school ways that we're playing hardball these guys, you 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:05.360 know this, This has to be almost working together, hand 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:09.360 in hand, a partnership with these players. Trey Hendrickson wants 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:12.600 to be there. You don't act like you want him 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:15.840 to be there. Michael Parsons wants to be there. You 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:18.280 don't act like you want him to be there, or 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:21.680 we do. But you're not getting a team friendly deal. 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:24.760 If I'm Michael Parsons, no way would I give you 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:28.120 a team friendly deal if I was kind of proactive 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:32.600 to this months ago. Yes, I mean look at Mahomes. 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:38.360 Mahomes gave the Chiefs a team friendly deal. Why because 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:41.640 he had trust in the front office. They would continue 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:45.560 to surround him with talent. They would be competing for 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:49.200 Super Bowls. Now, yes, it's a ten year deal for 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:52.559 five hundred million dollars, but still I said it at 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:55.360 the time, in two or three years, this will be 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:58.840 a bargain. And that's exactly what's happened with this. But 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:01.559 he had trust in ownership, he had trust in his 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:05.320 GM trust in his coach, and look how that's played out. 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:09.920 Brady did that. Hey, I'll help you here, But I 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:12.839 have trust, I have the best coach in history, and 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:15.640 I have a great owner, a Hall of fame owner, 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:19.520 and I'm going to be competing for championships. And I 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:20.800 think it worked out pretty well. 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:23.599 Yes, Paulie, And you're exactly right about signing early to 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:25.440 save a couple bucks. If you go back to Joe 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:28.040 Burrow and the Bengals, they signed him a year earlier. 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:30.480 They could have waited a whole another year. He's completely 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:33.160 under contract, but they thought, we know what we have. 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:35.880 He's a sure thing. We sign him now, we get 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:37.839 him at this rate. We sign him a year later 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:40.280 at that rate is now three million more per year. 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:42.679 So they look at his saving money by signing one 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:43.520 year early. 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:48.120 And that could mean the difference of keeping somebody, signing 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:53.440 somebody and three million dollars. But I once again, I'm 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:56.120 not sure I understand the logic of this with the 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:59.560 Bengals situation and certainly the Dallas Cowboys, but I will 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.360 say I think I don't think Mike Brown is looking 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:06.040 for attention. I think Jerry Jones is looking for attention. 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:10.480 He loves attention and he got it and this will pass. 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:13.239 That's why when I bring it up, I'm like, gosh, 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:19.440 how important is this because Michaeh Parsons will get signed? Yeah. 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:23.360 See, I mean I agree to some extent, but I 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:27.440 think you can sign a player early and save a 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:30.120 couple of bucks, right, and you sign a four year 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:33.560 deal at this rate, and then year two they have 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:35.760 the best year of their career and they say, well, 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:38.400 maybe we rearrange year three and I'm just going to 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:41.520 sit out here a year early before we can really 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:45.560 start talking about this. I mean, we saw, like Darrell Reeves. 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:48.920 We've seen people that dude was a master of holding out. 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:51.160 He would sign a ten year deal and after year 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:55.480 two be like, Nope, redo it, which I'm all for actually, 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:59.120 but there really is no you can get in early, 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:01.240 but that just means that's the earlier you're going to 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:03.480 be renegotiating the back end of that contract. 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.560 But look at what the Eagles did. They got in early, 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:11.959 and they got bargains and they're favored to repeat as 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:15.000 a Super Bowl champ. I understand what you're saying, and 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:17.400 I don't agree with these players who say Hey, I 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:21.280 outperform my contract. No, this is a contract you sign. 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:25.000 You have to live up to something here because nobody 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:28.040 ever gives money back. If Trey Hendrickson signs for thirty 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:31.920 five million, it's not like he's gonna go, hey, I 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:35.400 only had four sacks. Wait a minute, you want me 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:36.920 to give money back? Yeah? 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:40.280 See, this is what drives me crazy. Are we paying 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:44.479 for potential or are we paying for performance? Because Trey Hendrickson, 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:47.640 he's performed. Now pay the guy who's like, wow, why 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:49.920 would we pay him? He's already done everything. Now he's 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:51.599 too old, we already got his best years. We're not 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:54.280 going to pay him now. Well, then, which side of 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:57.480 it is it? I understand that there's a certain mindset 0:12:57.480 --> 0:12:59.760 of like, how about we don't pay anybody ever anything 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:01.880 and just get them for as cheap as possible. I 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:05.480 understand that it's garbage, but I get it. You either 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:07.400 have to choose one side of it or the other. 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:10.199 You're either choosing them on potential or you're choosing them 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:11.000 on performance. 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:15.520 Well, I think it's the timing of that. But also 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:19.000 with Trey Hendrickson, you know he's thirty. If he was 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:22.880 twenty eight, then maybe maybe it's different, but thirty and 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:25.439 you're saying, man, we got thirty five sacks out of 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:28.160 this guy the last two years, what do we want 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:31.280 to give him. Meanwhile, the Steelers looked at TJ. Watt, 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:34.079 same age and said, we're going to make you the 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:37.600 highest paid defensive player in the game, highest paid non 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:41.240 quarterback in the game. So I think it's depends on 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:43.280 the timing and depends on the organization. 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:46.760 YESO and Miles Garrett two years younger than Trey Hendrickson, 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:48.720 and that's it. It's not even a question that he 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:50.960 gets a deal. What if Trey Hendrickson did a deal 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:54.360 where he got I want three million dollars per sec. 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:57.040 There's the contract, give me three million dollars for the 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:01.000 next three season contract three million dollars per sec. If 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:03.520 I get fifteen sacks, I've done my job. I'm a 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:05.720 first team All Pro and you can be forty five 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:08.120 million bucks. Everybody wins and can't do that. I know 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:09.880 you can't, but it'd be great if you could. 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:13.080 Now if he said give me two million per sack, 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:17.080 so that's thirty million, and then you could give him 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:19.400 another bonus if he makes an All Pro or Pro Bowl. 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:21.840 And I don't know if you can put that language 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:24.520 into contracts or how much you can put into a contract, 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:27.240 but you know that's where a player then gets selfish, 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:30.640 where you know you're asking him to do something, or 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:32.560 you know, wide receivers would do that, and they come 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:34.440 back to the huddle. I gotta get my touches, man. 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:37.040 You know, I got to get x number of yards. 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:39.320 I got to get X number of catches. Then it 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:43.160 becomes selfish and it's detrimental to the team. But it 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:45.560 is interesting when we talk about do I pay you 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:49.480 on potential? Do I pay you on performance? I think 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:52.680 it depends on the team and the age of the 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:55.320 player with them. We'll take a break. We're going to 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:57.240 settle on a poll question. We'll come up with a 0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:01.240 couple options. Sandman will join us. 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It's gonna be the 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:28.360 best after show podcast of all time. 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:32.280 There you go, over Promising. Remember you could see on YouTube, 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:35.440 but definitely join us. Listen Over Promised with Coavino and 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:38.520 Rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:39.520 get your podcasts. 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:44.560 Ozzy Osbourne passing away yesterday at the age of seventy six. 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:49.600 I believe it's one of those great mysteries that you have. 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:52.520 You know, there's certain artists where you go, man, that 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:55.280 guy is crazy. And I remember the first time I 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:58.640 heard about Ozzy. It's like he bit the head off 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:02.720 of bat? What? And then all of a sudden he 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:06.040 had to get shots, you know, ray these shots because 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:07.760 he bit the head off of I don't know if 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:11.240 he did bite the head off a bat, but there 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:14.560 was always this mystery of Ozzy Osbourne. What does he 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:17.320 do when he goes home? Does he live in a dungeon? 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:20.920 What is he up to? And then all of a 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:25.320 sudden you had the Osbourne's that came out totally ruined 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:27.919 what I thought the vibe was gonna be with Ozzy 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:31.000 Osbourne where you see this guy kind of shuffling around 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:34.879 the kitchen, Sharad got the little dogs that are crapping 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:38.960 on the floor and you know he needs help with everything. 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:42.880 They have to have close caption putting his you know, 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:47.520 translating what he's saying, and you go, oh, no, that's 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:50.919 not our rock star Ozzy Osbourne. But you couldn't go 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:56.400 to a sports venue it feels like without hearing crazy 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:59.879 tray from Ozzy Osbourne. It just feels like every team 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:05.440 and not just professional teams. And uh, the the illusion 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:08.119 that he gave you. Like Alice Cooper was one of 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:11.320 the first artists back in the seventies where he had 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:16.000 a guillotine and he you know, cutting somebody's head off 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:19.440 or giving the impression their snakes and there and then 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:24.280 I met Alice Cooper in Scottsdale playing golf and could 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:27.840 not have been just a more normal, nice guy drinking 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:32.520 Budweiser's and h see, sometimes when you know, I don't 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:34.479 I don't want to be behind the curtain with some 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:37.320 of these artists and realize that you know they're into 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:43.199 Macro may or you know they're gonna be knitting or 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:46.720 something in a rocking chair or something. Yes, Paulie Fritzy 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:47.800 and I were talking about it. 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:50.479 We were little kids when Ozzy Osbourne and Black Sabbath 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:52.800 were hitting, so we didn't know the music, but you 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:56.040 could not know who Ozzy Osbourne was. I remember he 0:18:56.160 --> 0:19:00.640 was like a nightmare tale for kids, or remember kay 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:03.800 he was. He's a crazy guy from London who bit 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:06.600 a head off a bat in concert, and he was 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:09.600 You didn't have to know anything about music to know 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:11.760 who he was and be a little intimidated or scared 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:13.040 by his presence. 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:16.959 I heard he got fifty shots in the Necker come 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:18.480 of crazy stories going around. 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:21.680 Yeah, I don't think it was the music as much 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:25.480 for a lot of people now obviously diehard Black Sabbath fans, 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:28.720 but I think for the general public, they knew about 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:33.440 Ozzy because he supposedly bit the bat head off a bat, 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:37.679 and then people knew him for his show, which was 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:40.239 a great reality show. I mean that was that was 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:44.120 very entertaining, but it did ruin the image of who 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:47.000 I thought, you know, Ozzy Osbourne was going to be. 0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:51.600 You're putting subtitles up there and you're going I don't know, 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:53.720 what he said, and they finally put it up there. 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:56.120 I think that's what he's saying here. Yes, Marvin, I. 0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:58.639 Think we're probably a generational gap for a lot of 0:19:58.680 --> 0:20:01.720 people because they're probably the younger kids that are like, oh, 0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:03.679 the guy from the Osbourne's, and probably your dads and 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:05.160 their moms were like no, no. 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:05.400 No, no, no. 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:08.320 He was somebody before the Osborne's reality show. 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:14.320 Yeah, Black Sabbath Ozzie age of seventy six, and he 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:17.280 had one last concert a couple of weeks ago, and 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:21.520 I felt bad for him. Now, they were raising money, 0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:22.879 and I think they raised a lot of money, but 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:26.720 I mean they really had to wheeling him out there 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:31.000 and have him perform one more time, and his daughter 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:34.479 got engaged I think backstage after the show, and I 0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:36.680 just I don't know, it felt like they were propping 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:39.600 him up there. I felt bad for him, but maybe 0:20:39.640 --> 0:20:42.280 maybe you know, he got great joy out of that 0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:44.359 that he got to perform one last time. 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:46.960 Yes, he but whenever I got to see him in 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:50.639 concert a couple of times solo and with Black Sabbath, 0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:53.679 they did like a reunion tour, and that was just 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:56.760 seeing Ozzy was one thing, but Black Sabbath. It was 0:20:56.920 --> 0:20:59.399 even though he was reading off the prompter, he was 0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:02.720 still like this version of Ozzy where he really couldn't move, 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:03.560