1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning. 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: Everybody is DJ en Vy Jess hilarious, Charlamage the guy. 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: in the building. Yes, indeed we have draw called Michael. 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: I'll be doing your voice in the showers more than 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: everybody's DJ. Like, think about you. Yeah, yeah, you know what. 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: Let's lean into all the gay. Sometimes when I'm naked, 8 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: I think about DJA. Yes, yes, yes, yes, happy to 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: see you. Happy to see you, bro. So I'm always 10 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: happy when people come right after donkey of today. Oh 11 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: my god, let me tell you something. I was responding 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: to you like Monique, like I was in my house 13 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: just pacing around. Just be like Leonard your mother said 14 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: about giving me. No, let's talk about that. So there's 15 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: a couple of things I want to make clear about that. 16 00:00:54,640 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 2: But let's shot off for people that don't know you. 17 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: People will see the ship. It'll be the video right 18 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: up next to me in the first coat with the 19 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: ear rings here today. Whatever. So how you doing first? 20 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: We'll get to that lady. No, No, you got some 21 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: ship to settle first. 22 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 2: Okay, So Charlamaine gave you donkey to day gave me donkey. 23 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: No, no, I'm gonna get into it. Okay. So first 24 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: of all, because the thing I want to clear up 25 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: and is very very important if people got a short 26 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: attention span, I want to make sure that they hear 27 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: this part first, because you report it on you You 28 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: played a clip of my stand up, but it started 29 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: at the punchline, and it like completely erased the setup 30 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: of it. And I really don't like that. It made 31 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: it seem like I was talking like I'm into some 32 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: type of race sexual slavery role play with my boyfriend, 33 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: which is untrue. It's so false, and I expect that 34 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: type of thing from TMZ because they have no humanity. 35 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: They don't care about the people that get hurt when 36 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: they report these sort of things. But you were a friend, 37 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: so I really didn't like that, Like, like I know, 38 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: you repeated it in the Neil interview. I didn't like 39 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: that that that was very very unfair. It was a joke. 40 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, but I need you to watch the show 41 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: and anybody who watches the show, it's not what I said. 42 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,119 Speaker 1: It is so false, it's so untrue, and I don't 43 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: like that because it's like, no, well, we'll get into 44 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: that later. Uh, it has nothing to do with my boyfriend. 45 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 1: It has nothing like the sex that we have. It 46 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with sex. It's something that like 47 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,839 Speaker 1: people have been reporting on and I really really don't 48 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: like it. It's about my boyfriend reading so much he 49 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: makes me feel insecure about my level of reading. And look, 50 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: I get it. It Like it's something that people have 51 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: been running with because one because I have a white boyfriend, 52 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: so like people like try and create some type of 53 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: crazy story out of that, like, and it's a small 54 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: group of people really like I read all the tweets 55 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: and it's like some gay black men and some klu 56 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: Klux clan members who don't like that I have a 57 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: white boyfriend. They agree on that, so congratulations, like the 58 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: Klan and doctor Lumar and you know, some people find 59 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: some common ground on that. But he's a human being. 60 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: He deserves respect. I deserve respect. I don't appreciate things 61 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: being misreported or like said about them in that way. 62 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: It's completely false. So I don't like that. I just 63 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: want to make that clear. That's that's not something. I 64 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: know you were just reading the news, but like you're 65 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: a friend, and I want you to like actually have 66 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: nuance with these stories like, look, I'm a human being 67 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: and like people are, people can get hurt. They're actually 68 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: real lives at stake with the things that you say, 69 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: and look, come after me, that's fine, but don't come 70 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: after like my my boyfriend. Well, I'm saying when that's 71 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: in the headline and that's reported like and then misreported 72 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: like oh he's into race slave play with his white boyfriend, 73 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: I don't like that headline because it's false. It is 74 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,119 Speaker 1: not true at all. Now on to Dave Chappelle. 75 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 3: No, I want to stay to the joke, though in 76 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 3: context the joke still not a good joke. 77 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: That's on you comedy for a while. I got. 78 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 3: I got because you're still saying you're a slave. 79 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: No slave math is teaching you know, Listen, I'm talking 80 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: about my own personal insecurity. I'm an educated person. I'm 81 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: usually the smartest person in the room. He reads so 82 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: much it makes me feel like, oh do I even 83 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: know how to read? That joke works if I had 84 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: a black boyfriend, my boyfriend were black, that joke actually 85 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: works better. 86 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: And you the slave and the white person is the slave. 87 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: Listen, if you and you're from North Carolina, where you 88 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: know the first anti literacy laws were created in North 89 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: and soud Caline. You are sure, sure, but that's not 90 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: my roles comedian to started getting into like like literacy 91 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: laws and stuff like that. You completely lost that I 92 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: evoked provocative imagery sometimes in my jokes. Some people are 93 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: very sensitive to that. That's your right. You don't have 94 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: to laugh at that. You could like hear the word 95 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: slavery and completely shut off. That's completely fine, But don't 96 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: misconstrue what I said and don't like make it into 97 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: something that is not, because that's where I start to 98 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: get offended. I don't know that that the statement like 99 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: you said it like multiple times on the show, like, oh, 100 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: he's into slave role play with his white boyfriend. That's untrue. 101 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 3: I said it like that. 102 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: I think I've said Charlemagne, that is not the joke. 103 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: The joke's about me reading the jokes about my insecurity, 104 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: about like not being as well read when I be 105 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: in bed next to him and he's on. When I'm 106 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: in bed next to him and he's like on his 107 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: third novel of the month, I'll be watching breakfast club 108 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: interviews and I feel like, oh, I should read more. 109 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: That's what the joke is. The joke it has nothing 110 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: to do with sex, has nothing to do with the 111 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: type of sex that we have. And that's just absolutely false. 112 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 3: But still not a good joke when you're black and hey, listen, 113 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 3: that's on you. It's on you. 114 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: You do stand up and you figure it out for me, 115 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: the crowds laugh whatever. I'll say this about if the 116 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: crowd is. 117 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 3: The majority white, are they laughing with you? Are at you? 118 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's fun. I'm actually I'm actually shocked. It's 119 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: like a pretty decent amount of black people coming out 120 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: to see you. I really appreciate y'all for coming out. 121 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: I want y'all to keep coming out too. I like 122 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: I like the seeing it really especially black women are 123 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: like in the crowd. They've been like talking to me. 124 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: They seem invested in my life, and it makes me 125 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: feel really really special. So I really like that and 126 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Now, I want to move on to 127 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: the Dave Chappelle portion of it, because I've heard you 128 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:13,239 Speaker 1: comment on that too. I deeply regret ever saying anything 129 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: about Dave Chappelle to the press. I want to say 130 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: that I'm sorry for that, because one I'm a huge. 131 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle Dave Chappelle fan. I love Dave like. I 132 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: think he's brilliant. I think he's a bright light in 133 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: a dying industry. I think he's more important now than 134 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,559 Speaker 1: ever before, because, like comedians are now just posting clips 135 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: that him doing crowd work online and calling it art 136 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: and it's not right. Dave Chappelle is an artist. He's 137 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: one of the few artists that we have, and I 138 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: care deeply about the work that he makes. With that said, 139 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: the criticism that I had had nothing to do with 140 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: the morality of the joke, had nothing to do with 141 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: the ethics of the joke. That's something that's also been misreported. 142 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: The criticism I had was that of a fan, someone 143 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: who respects him so much that I want him to 144 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: focus his genius on a wide range of topics. I 145 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: think like it started, but it started being really really 146 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: focused on one thing. Well, I'll say this. Look, that's 147 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: like I'm saying that about the slave yoall I'll say. 148 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: I'll say this. I'm also a big fan of jay Z. 149 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: If jay Z made three albums about trans people, I'd 150 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: be like, Hey, what's going on with jay? But jay 151 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: Z made three albums more than three albums about selling drugs. 152 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: You don't you just don't put him in that. Uh, 153 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: you don't pigeonhole them with dead no they jay Z. 154 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I would love to get to a 155 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: jay Z argument. Jay Z was very personal, very emotional. 156 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: He always evolved. Four four four was incredible because it 157 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: showed growth and evolution and something you've never seen before 158 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: and rap, And that's a thing with comedy too. Comedy 159 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: doesn't grow, Comedy doesn't evolve, It's it's kind of stunted 160 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: like rap, and like we just started getting like real braggadocious, 161 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: like antagonistic with the crowd, and it can evolve, like 162 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: and we need smart people like Dave, like Chris Rock, 163 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: like myself to actually evolve the art form because it 164 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: is dying. It's so so important for people to go 165 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: up and do deep personal stories or have a deep 166 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: perspective about things going on in the world because it's 167 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: not happening but you see it online. Yeah, I know, Listen, 168 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: all I'm saying is And because I've talked about Dave 169 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: a lot, I don't want to talk about Dave anymore. 170 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: I honestly I called him an eagle manac, I'm a 171 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: eago maniac. I'm here to talk about me. I have 172 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: a show that I want to talk about, talk about. Yeah, yeah, 173 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: I know you know what. And I'll tell you honestly, 174 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: from now on, any thoughts I have for Dave will 175 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: be directed in a phone call to day. I'll never 176 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: do it again. I'll never I I do apologize for that, 177 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: Like I'm man enough to say that, I that is wrong. 178 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't need it. I don't want the attention. 179 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: It's going on way too long, don't want it at all. 180 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: I'm here to talk about me. Did it change after 181 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: you got I guess taken out of context after this slave? 182 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: Because it never changed. No, it never changed. It had 183 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: like it had nothing to do with that. Like I 184 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: I think that again with the press, the same thing, TMZ. 185 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: It's funny because that's the thing that happened, Like, you know, 186 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: I get asked about Dave or Cosby or something like that. 187 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: Like it is almost like the press and like you know, 188 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: they want to perpetuate it. Beat well, it's just like, hey, 189 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: like what's going on with you? When this other black 190 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: man like John Laney don't get asked about Jerry Seinfeld 191 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: the way I get asked about other black comedians like that. 192 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 1: That's just like I don't like that either. These are 193 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: like there are few artists in this art form. There 194 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: are so few artists people actually doing art, people that 195 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: not doing podcasts, not doing like crowd work videos online, 196 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: people that are actually doing the art. He's one of 197 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: the few. I have a deep respect for him. And 198 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: that's that's all I'll say. And let's hope TMZ reports 199 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: everything I just said, because like I'm saying, yeah, I 200 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: apologize to myself for making like making this whole thing 201 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: get out of proportion, like I should never said anything again. 202 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: I really want to talk about me. That's what I'm 203 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: here for to talked about myself. 204 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 4: Seanaman. 205 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: He said he was upset because he could sider you 206 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 2: guys friends and that you went off the rail without 207 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: having a conversation. 208 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: Did you watch the show? Did you? I texted you 209 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: last night? You watch it? You've been watching it? Did 210 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: you watch the next episode? No? 211 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 3: I watched the first four, the first three. 212 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: You're gonna love the next episode. So respond to what 213 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: he said, because you know he considered you guys friends 214 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: and my friend. I want you to apologize. 215 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: But if you feel the way, I think that Charlamagne 216 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 2: should apologize him as well. 217 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 3: I don't feel like I want to apologize, don't you. 218 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: Well i'm talking about person. Would you want me to 219 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: give you one of these half assed bullshit industry? But 220 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: I don't feel like I need to apologize. I think 221 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: I made myself clear. I have no need for an 222 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: apology if it and I'm like, you know what, that 223 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: was wrong? But in the moment, well, I'll wait for 224 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: that when I'm in the shower thinking about d J. 225 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: And I know that's anyway I want you to. I 226 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: want you to watch this next episode because this next 227 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: week I'm gonna road trip with my dad to devilin, 228 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: South Carolina, where he's from. That's where he was your 229 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: Monk's corner. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. No. The 230 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: episode is really good because I have a conversation with 231 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: him and I say things that I was afraid to say, 232 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: and this. 233 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 4: Is the reality. 234 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 2: Yea yeah, but just shooting at everybody I wanted. 235 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: I wanted to be said in the comment section that 236 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: I came with love. I came with candles and flowers 237 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: and love. That's right. Yeah, just come on, like just 238 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: I need you. I do have one more question about that, though, Like, 239 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: do you think a comedian should ever call another comedian 240 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 1: offensive or implied to another comedian is being offensive because 241 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: you could easily offend. I'll say comedians can do whatever 242 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: they want. I don't want to be a comedian who 243 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: speaks about other comedians. I make art that I like. 244 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: I make things that I want the world to see. 245 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: I focus all my energy and attention on myself and 246 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: my art and my work, and that's what I want 247 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: to be known for. And I don't care. I'm not 248 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: on Twitter talking about other comedians. I'm knowing podcasts like 249 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you know me, I don't talk about anything 250 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: but myself like that. That's why I'm upset that the 251 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: whole thing got blown out of proportion because I don't 252 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: talk about anything other than myself. I'm I'm so focused 253 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: on my own work. I think it's important. I think 254 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: people should see it, and that's why I'm here. Okay. 255 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 2: Now, you also talk about black women being super supportive 256 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 2: when you first came out, but also being mad at 257 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 2: you at the same time. 258 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: Oh, because I got a white boyfriend. Yeah, you know, 259 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: it's It's funny they met my boyfriend. They love him 260 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: like my boyfriend. My boyfriend is actually he's so real. 261 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: That's part of the reason, like that any lie about 262 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 1: him makes me upset because he's so he's so real. 263 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: My homegirl ivery loves Mike. Mike doesn't engage in small talk. 264 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: That's the thing that I actually am trying to learn because. 265 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 3: Like I can my next book, why small talk sucks. 266 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: Hey, there we go. You got to meet my boyfriend, 267 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: and like he doesn't do it at all. If you 268 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,239 Speaker 1: talk to him about the weather, he'll just be quiet. 269 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: And I'm trying to learn that. Like I'd be out 270 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: in the world just lying to people just like, oh, no, 271 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: good shirt, just like I have a lot of good 272 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: shirt conversations. It's all. It's all. I got to stop 273 00:12:58,520 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: doing that. I don't like that. 274 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: How does he feel when you because you talk about 275 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 2: your life on the reality show? How does you feel 276 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: when you talk about your sexcapage or even your conversation 277 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: with Tyler to createor how does it make him feel? 278 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 4: Funny do you have conversation before? 279 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, he knows all of it. I mean it's funny 280 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: because our relationship began. I started shooting the reality show, 281 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: and then our relationship began. So he like he came 282 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: in at a time when I'm dealing with a lot 283 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: of things, and the show is just about me, like 284 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: me trying to explore all these deep things about myself 285 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: and being in therapy, trying to work through problems, like 286 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: trying to trying to like I'm exposing it's the most 287 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: vulnerable show of all time. Like you've never seen a 288 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: show more vulnerable than this? 289 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 5: Did he make you more comfortable with that? 290 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: He makes me more uncomfortable life. But I think I'm 291 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: a better person because my boyfriend. I feel so much 292 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: calmer now. Like I'm a person that had a lot 293 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: of anxiety, and you could see it even in the 294 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: first episode. You could see like it's me trying to 295 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: get all my anxiety out. I think that's why the 296 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: audience feels that way. They feel a little awkward, because 297 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: that's that's how I felt. I think it transmutes into 298 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 1: the art form. I was somebody that was just like 299 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: constantly scared, constantly nervous, afraid of how I would be perceived, 300 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: Afraid of like you know, like coming in masculine environments 301 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: as a gay man, Like just terrified all the time, 302 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: afraid of the kind of sex I was having. I 303 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: was I was thinking about that because people have been 304 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: talking about like I put like a foot in my 305 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: mouth in the in the first episode, people call people yeah, 306 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: you know, and I want to also want to set 307 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: the records right. He was Guatemalan. People say it's white toes. 308 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: He was Guatemalan. Maybe that doesn't matter to some people, 309 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: but it's like I told the tone, I've had some 310 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: black peet my mouth too. I was afraid of the 311 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: type of sex I was having. I thought it was 312 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: dirty and so wrong, and like I used to get 313 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: like HIV tests once a week because I thought I 314 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: was like I was having like dirty forbidden like god 315 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: forbidden sex, and I was like I viewed myself negatively 316 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: and the gay man that normal. No, no, that that 317 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: level of shame. 318 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 3: I'm talking about getting the HIV test. 319 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. But and I'll say this, but that's that's also 320 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: the you know, actually an actual fact more straight people 321 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: get HIV now than gay men, like because straight people 322 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: don't check on themselves as much as gay men on 323 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: sexual health because you have to be and like like 324 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: you know that that's the thing that was actually psychological 325 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: that was me thinking that God was punishing me because 326 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: something I was doing was so wrong and that is 327 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: a horrible thing to live with. And people gay, straight, whatever, 328 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: have a lot of sexual shame. They're afraid of things. 329 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: So I was doing things like on camera to liberate myself, 330 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: like it was important for me to like eradicate that shame, 331 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: Like I put a foot, I put a foot in 332 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: my mouth for y'all. A lot of people don't think 333 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: you're really gay, though, and they think that you just 334 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: put the foot in your mouth to kind of prove 335 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: that you get And it was like if he was 336 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: really gay, you the stuff they dig on camp, right, 337 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, only fans coming soon, I guess. 338 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: You know. There's a lot of silly things. There are 339 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,239 Speaker 1: people who get that news from Twitter. They're crazy. 340 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 4: What did you meet your boyfriend? What did you mean? 341 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: How did you We met? Thro a mutual friend. We 342 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: met years ago in l A and then and we 343 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: started dating. Uh uh, it's been a year and a 344 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: half now. 345 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 3: It wasn't scene when you were I'm sorry the thing 346 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 3: with Tyler? 347 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Just how are you doing. I'm good? How 348 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: you been I'm good? I look, hey, can I say 349 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: I'm so proud of you, and I don't mean that 350 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: in the condescending way, because people sometimes use pride like 351 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: like I'm proud of you, like I'm above you. I'm 352 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: so proud of you. I love you very very much. 353 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 3: You don't try to disarmor. 354 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: She's I'm can you tell to see me and listen 355 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: showed up. 356 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 6: Showed up by wiz camera in the green room, like 357 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 6: years and years ago when I first started doing comedy. 358 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 3: London, when London kicked him outcau. 359 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: She didn't know who he was. 360 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 6: I didn't know who he wasn't he He was just 361 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 6: like okay, I'll leave him, Like no, wait, this is 362 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 6: jer She was. 363 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: Like, oh guy, yeah, no no. And I've been a 364 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: fan of yours, like for for a very long time. 365 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: We worked on time I gave just a TV. I 366 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: saw I saw that she was a star, like you know, 367 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: like look at me trying to take credit for how 368 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: you was the one who got her own row what 369 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: you're talking about. I saw my sister's Instagram. It was like, 370 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: she's a star. She's incredible, She's a star. I was 371 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: like like her, like I was, I was. I was 372 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,959 Speaker 1: in Dana Walden office and Fox like demanding, demanding they 373 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: put you on the air because you and rightfully so 374 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: like I don't need it out. Yeah yeah, listen, give 375 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: her all credit to whatever you know. I'm like little Richard, 376 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: I get overlooked for all types of ship anyway. No, 377 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: You're incredible and I'm really really happy for you. 378 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 5: I appreciate you. 379 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: Know what I mean. I love you. 380 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:50,239 Speaker 5: Told us I was like, we need to get him 381 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 5: up here so we can talk about it. 382 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: I wanted to come to the New space and come 383 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: when you were here. 384 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 6: Yes, So I wanted to ask you about you and 385 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 6: Tyler because y'all are actually really friends. Yeah right, yeah 386 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 6: with that like for fun or did you really really 387 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 6: have romantic feelings for Tyler? 388 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: Yeah? I did. I was in turmoil over that for 389 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: a year, and that's a hard thing to deal with. 390 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: Of course, is like I've seen people online talk about 391 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: as awkward as cringe. Yeah. Yeah, having feelings for your 392 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: best friend is very awkward, very very cringe. I'm thankful 393 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: that he did it because I've never seen a conversation 394 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: like that played out on television or in any space, 395 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: and I thought it was really really important. I've never 396 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: like I've never seen like a black man expressed feelings 397 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: for another black man like that ever before. And I'm 398 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 1: trying to make art that I wish i'd seen as 399 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: a kid. I'm trying to make things and put things 400 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,719 Speaker 1: out there that I needed, and so it was really important. 401 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: I thought it was a really important conversation. I'm so 402 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: thankful to Tyler for doing it. 403 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 6: Because when you say he called you stupid, like he 404 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 6: laughed about it, did that really hurt your feelings or 405 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 6: it's just like, oh, because I. 406 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: Getting caught a stupid bitchy but stupid bitch. 407 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 5: I know black all my that's feed to be a 408 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 5: bit all the time. 409 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 6: So it was just like, okay, cool, But it really 410 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 6: did hurt you see what he said? 411 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was watching it. I stayed up late for 412 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: that too. I've made a sandwich. I was up at 413 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: three in the morning. I wasn't feel about it. You 414 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: staying up late to watch Tyler. I was on FaceTime 415 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: with him. Oh yeah, yeah, no, like like you know, 416 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: he's emotionally evolved. I'm the one that's trying to catch up. 417 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 4: Get jealous at all. 418 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's jealousy for sure. Jealousy. I'm jealous of him. 419 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: He goes to the gym, like you be getting hit 420 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: on the stuff. Like it's like, yeah, there's a lot 421 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: of jealousy. I'm learning to deal with that, like I'm trying. 422 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 5: To How does he deal with it? 423 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: I mean that's a question for him. I think, Yeah, 424 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: we talk about it. That's the thing public. Yeah, yeah, 425 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: I'm public, but but that's something that we talk about. 426 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: That And that's kind of the point of the show. 427 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: Like all these things, these feelings that you don't talk about, 428 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: things that you could just harbor, you could go to 429 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: sleep at night, never say, like we talk about these things. 430 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: It's so important. What do you think about teleperformance? I 431 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: know just asked you that Tyler is an aesthetic genius sonically. 432 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: He has chords that I mean, I think that's part 433 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: of the reason we became friends, because there's a certain 434 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: sound that I think we both relate to. He's he's great, 435 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: He's one of them. He said, you're trying to I 436 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: bet y'all saw my best friend trying to fuck me 437 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: on camera. I thought it was funny. That was funny. No, 438 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: I love the performance. The performance itself was great, like 439 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: and I don't want to be a distraction from his work. 440 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: It's great. I'm thankful that he had the conversation, and 441 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: I think he's one of the few like him Beyonce, 442 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: like he wanted a few live performers that deserve all 443 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: the praise that they get. He's so incredible. 444 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 4: What's your relationship now, y'all? 445 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: Cool? 446 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 4: After the conversations, I mean he's. 447 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: Making jokes about it. We cool. I mean we moved on, 448 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: like I have. You know, I've definitely moved on. It 449 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: was a very, very tough moment in my life, and 450 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: I have nothing but gratitude for him for doing that 451 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: on camera as wild right, But it was hard off camera. 452 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: That was a difficult thing to deal with off camera. 453 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: A whole year friend, Yeah, yeah, I was. I was 454 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: on music Soul Child have crazy mode for why not 455 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: reach out to him during that year? He called me 456 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: a stupid bitch, Charlainne. Did you watch the show? Thank you? 457 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: But that's your friend, somebody you love and care for. 458 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: What I was thinking of, like, well, why would he 459 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: let a whole year go by? 460 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:30,479 Speaker 3: Why would either wanted him let a whole year? 461 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: Well, it's very easy. So that's the thing. It's very 462 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: easy for things to like just fall back into the 463 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: elephant in the room, like, Okay, we're not going to 464 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: talk about it. We just go to breakfast. Like I 465 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 1: have that same relationship with my parents where it's like, oh, 466 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: there are things that we don't really want to talk about, 467 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: so we don't and we engage in small talk. We 468 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: talk about everything else, and and and that's what the 469 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: show was. The show was an excuse to have a 470 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: difficult conversation that I'd otherwise be afraid to have. How 471 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: is when you were sitting there eating it with Tyler, 472 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: it felt like, and I know in TV time, I 473 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: don't know how long it was, but it felt like 474 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: there was just a long moment where y'all said nothing 475 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: parts he says, I'll call you next week. How long 476 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: was that whole scene? I mean it was longer. It 477 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: was longer than what you saw, no conversation. Yeah, I 478 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: mean that's how real life plays out sometimes, you know. 479 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: And and I like the show because the show lives 480 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: in silences. It lives in like moments like there's a 481 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: credit Elvis Mitchell that like called me, and it was 482 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: like I really loved the silence of the show. I 483 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 1: really loved that it kind of lives and they they 484 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: are these moments where the show takes its time. 485 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 4: I was asking about your family. 486 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 2: You know, how was it with your family seeing everything 487 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 2: up close and personal, because at one time you said 488 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 2: it was difficult when you first came out to talk 489 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 2: to your family. 490 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: No, I haven't. 491 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 4: I haven't seen it. 492 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: You haven't seen it. I'm having sex dreams about you 493 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: and you didn't sell. I'm joking. I don't want to 494 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: make you uncomfortable. 495 00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 2: Uncomfortable I sup your family, but now it's don't care. 496 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 2: I know you're super you're super straight. You got to 497 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: chain all like it's just like anybody that a little Okay, 498 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 2: I didn't mean to start. 499 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: I didn't mean. I'm joking. I didn't want to like anyway, whoa, 500 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: that's not true. 501 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 2: You'll got me like Cameron now, Like, yeah, I was asking, 502 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 2: so how is that your family seeing everything? 503 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: My dad's super nervous, uh episode his episodes coming up 504 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: this week, you know, like he'd be calling me, like 505 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: pretending he's just checking on me, you know, but he 506 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: really wants to know about it. It's a wild thing. 507 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: Like just imagine me and from where I'm from, you know, 508 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: your son's all HBO every week dealing with personal family things. 509 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: That's insane. That's insane. So I respect my family for 510 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: dealing with these things on camera. They know that that's 511 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: my way. And and uh, yeah, he's a little nervous. 512 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,239 Speaker 1: My my mom is an evangelist, so she feels as 513 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: long as she gets the word of God out there, 514 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: like she's a good she's all good. Yeah. Yeah. My 515 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: mom is one of the few people in the world 516 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: who is exactly who she says she is, and that's 517 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: caused some tension in our life. But I also totally 518 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: respect her. 519 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 3: How did your mom? How do you think black women 520 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 3: in general will feel about you referring to your mother 521 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 3: as a bitch? 522 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: Oh? Man, that's been the family been the family been having. 523 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 1: They got a group chat without me talking about that. 524 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny that I actually didn't consider that 525 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: like when I said it, And maybe that's me being inconsiderate, 526 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: and maybe there is some like latent hurt that is 527 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: coming out when I when I say that, I actually 528 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: wasn't saying I love my mother. I have a deep 529 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: respect from my mother, and I only said it. I 530 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: say it kind of casually, kind of gay, like just 531 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: on stage. I say it just nonchalantly. I just I 532 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: call people bitches and niggas all the time, Like I 533 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: you know, listen, you. 534 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 3: Can call your dad a nigga. You can that a 535 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 3: bit with your mom. 536 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 5: But you're gonna get mad at Tyler for a year 537 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 5: because he says. 538 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: Well, it wasn't it was the dismissal of the emotion. Yeah, 539 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't just that. It was that that was all 540 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 1: he said. But no, with my mom, now that's something 541 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: that we talked about. I would rather focus on the 542 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 1: emotion behind it. It's like it's easy to get hung 543 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: up on it. Actually get really really angry at my 544 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: family when they start talking about, like, you know, my 545 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: dad called He's like, I don't like that you call 546 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: your mom a bitch. I'm like, that's the worst thing 547 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: we've done to my mother. Like I think, I think 548 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: as a family, we've done worse, you know. And and 549 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: I think that it's easy sometimes that surface level conversation 550 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: is all people have access to. It is the thing 551 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: that people want to talk about because it's easy. But 552 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: just don't say that word. It's like, Hey, what's behind 553 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: that word? Why do you think I'm saying? Do you 554 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: see the hurt in my eyes? Do you hear it 555 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: in my voice? Like, I'm hurt and I'm revealing a 556 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: lot in this show, and the family can't talk about 557 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: that sometimes, so they just focus on the very easy thing. 558 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 5: So more so, why did you call her a bitch? 559 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 1: Well? Why am I hurt? 560 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 3: Yeah? 561 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,719 Speaker 1: What's the cause of the hurt? Like you know, like 562 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: I feel rejected by my creator. That's a difficult thing 563 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: to live with. Like, you know, I'm not the only 564 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: person that's living with like some issues with their parents, 565 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,479 Speaker 1: with their mom or you just you don't see eye 566 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: to eye and it makes you feel bad about yourself. 567 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: That's how I feel. And that's a really really hard 568 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: thing to live with. And I'm trying to make art 569 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: and trying to make sense of all of it, but 570 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: it's really tough. What would you say to people who 571 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: would say your mom is homophobic? But when I look 572 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 1: at it, I say, no, she's very religious, So I 573 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: think she's looking at it through the religious of religion. Yeah, yeah, 574 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: and I think that. I think at some point you 575 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: have to think about how you got to the place 576 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,479 Speaker 1: that you are. I had a really good conversation with 577 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 1: my mom about even her finding religion and needing religion 578 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: about the hurt, the disappointment in her life from her 579 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: dad and from other people in her life that led 580 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: her to needing God as much as she does and 581 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: depending on God as so much she does. And we 582 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: were having a really, really good conversation that my dad 583 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: woke up and interrupted. It was yeah, yeah, but you know, 584 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: but you have to explore your life. You got to 585 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: explore the reasons why, because you can hurt people, like 586 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: I know, like people call it faith whatever, but they 587 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: are human beings and like your opinion, my mother's opinion 588 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: of me matters so much. Absolutely. I also wondered when 589 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: you was It was a scene where you was It 590 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: looked like you was literally sitting in the closet, I'm 591 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: not trying to be funny, and you were saying how 592 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: you felt spiritually unclean. 593 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, you said you felt like a black buck and 594 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 3: a cup. 595 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: I wondered what your mother thought about that, especially the 596 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: spiritually unclean part. Yeah, you know, my mom said she 597 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: said a funny thing because she saw the hookups and 598 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: like how much I talk about sex in the show. 599 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: She was like, the one thing she did say about 600 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: the show, she was like, I just want you to 601 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: note that your body is a temple, you know, And 602 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: I got mad. I got offended by that because I 603 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: was like, I see the grosses you buy. You be 604 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: eating Beanie Whenies, you know, wies, little little hot dogs, 605 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: little hot dogs cut up in parking beans. I was like, 606 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: you invite Beanie Whenies into your temple, you know, my 607 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 1: temple was actually that's actually, that's the actually that's maybe 608 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: I'm from the South, that's like it. But but but 609 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: but my mom. Yeah, yeah, man, we only have time. 610 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 1: That's like a whole special work. So why I guess 611 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: my thing though, is why I keep living like that? 612 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: If you feel like you said, you feel like a 613 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: black white book in a cook strong Well, a lot 614 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: of the show is me trying to figure out, like 615 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: working through those things, like working through the shame that 616 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: I have, working through a lot of the problems that 617 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: that I have in my life. Yeah, it's it's a feeling. 618 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: I expressed my feelings, and I'm expressing them on camera 619 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: for the world to dissect, for you know, people to 620 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: kind of therapize. But I it was a feeling I 621 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: was having in that moment, and I was conflicted about it. 622 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: Isn't that a racial component if you're saying you feel 623 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: like a black buck, and there's a part of you 624 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: to ask to be like why do I keep hooking 625 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: up with all these white men? Yeah? But I mean 626 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: that I've been reading a lot and so that was 627 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: just like, yeah, there there's all types of components. There's 628 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: a sex addiction component to it, just like why why 629 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: do I need sex to heal? Why do I turn 630 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: to that to feel better about myself? Like a lot 631 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: of it's unhealthy, Like I definitely exhibit a lot of 632 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: unhealthy behavior in the show. 633 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 5: But I think it also. 634 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 6: He's not the only one who's feeling that way obviously, 635 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 6: So you're saying, like people therapized. I mean people can 636 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 6: like get some type of therapy from your show, because 637 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 6: you're not the. 638 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 5: Only person that has these conflicted feelings. 639 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 6: I have friends who have talked to me about the 640 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 6: same thing that you're that you you know that you're 641 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 6: putting out there on the show that you're actually going 642 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 6: through this and on the camera on camera. 643 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 5: You know it actually it it rings. 644 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 6: I don't know, like some type of like awareness to you. 645 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 6: Oh damn no, I'm not the only person feeling like this, and. 646 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: You're a good friend because I hope that they bring 647 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: it to you because they know that you're a safe 648 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: place and that you won't make them feel shame for 649 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: anything that they're feeling. That's the difficult thing. It's hard. 650 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I'm out here, I'll be getting crucified 651 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: every week. But it's hard to reveal things about yourself 652 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: because you're afraid. You're afraid people are gonna throw stones. 653 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: I've definitely been afraid. I feel like a turtle without 654 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: a shell. 655 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's good because you're opening yourself 656 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 2: up to people that might be going through the same 657 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 2: problems that you're going through and too scared to share, 658 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 2: or too scared that. 659 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: I was too scared. I lived most of my life terrified, 660 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: terrified to reveal anything about myself, like just trying to 661 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: just living behind a mask. It's so unhealthy, and I 662 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: was really hurting myself. And I'm putting myself out there 663 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: so that people can feel and see that it's okay. 664 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 5: And that's why I was so shocked. 665 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 6: I was like, wow, he I feel like I'm watching 666 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 6: something that I'm not supposed to know about him. I'm feeling, 667 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 6: you know what I mean, Just to be that vulnerable 668 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 6: on a show. What made you want to do it now? 669 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 3: Like? 670 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: Well, because after I came out, I realized that there 671 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: are other things I needed to come out about. I 672 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: think everybody's in a closet about something, and I was 673 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: in a closet. It was more than just being gay. 674 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: It was about of feelings that I have. I was 675 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: in a closet about you know, sex, addiction, or how 676 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: I am as a friend or all these things. Like 677 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: just like I was a closeted person. I was holding 678 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: everything inside and the show was an outlet for me. 679 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: I'm an artist, and I use art as a means 680 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: of expression and as a means to heal, and so 681 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: the show just felt like a natural. I was doing 682 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: all these shows, I was doing stand up, and stand 683 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: up started being kind of a form of therapy. It 684 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: was like a re associated therapy that I would just 685 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: go up and I would talk about a problem that 686 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: I have, a deep personal problem that I have, and 687 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: the response from the audience started being better. That's what 688 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: I mean. Like people coming to the shows, like like 689 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: the heckles that I get as a comedian are so thoughtful. 690 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: Like no comedian gets like the thought like people turn 691 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: into therapists in the. 692 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not. 693 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: I watched that. Yes, I was like, those heckles aren't 694 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: real the audiences. No, No, like people are smart. I 695 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: believe that. I believe that, like Twitter isn't just the 696 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: that's not what the world is it. Yeah, listen, sometimes 697 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: I search your name to make me feel better about myself. 698 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: Charlot made no, but but I like no, all my my, 699 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: the heckles that I get are thoughtful responses because you 700 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: open yourself up and people open themselves up like like 701 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: they they respond in kind And so I'm glad you're 702 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: good friends and your friends who are expressing themselves to you. 703 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 4: How did you deal with the sex edition? Sex Edition? 704 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: I'm still I'm still. 705 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 5: He's dealing with it, trying to figure it out. 706 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: And I'm getting my candle everywhere. But now shows you 707 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: you just be on grind before your boyfriend. 708 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 3: You was on grind just that was old. 709 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 6: That was that had to be before your boyfriend, before 710 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 6: my boyfriend. 711 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: And you know, but yeah, sex sex sex is something else. Man. 712 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: You gotta keep watching the show. You gotta watch. Do 713 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: you get all the episodes yees three. I'm waiting on 714 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: the link. Can you send the link with all the 715 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: episodes because I want to see all of it. Yeah. 716 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: You had a good explanation, though, you said, because you 717 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: waited so long to come out. 718 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, so now you feel like a seventeen year old. 719 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, making up making up for lost time, Like 720 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: just like, yeah, they're they're at Like my emotional maturity 721 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: level was a bit delayed. That's it's a little embarrassing 722 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: to admit, but true. But even that, I do think 723 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: there are certain aspects of my personality that I inherit 724 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: from my father. I've been reading about that a lot, 725 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: just like being you know, you you learn how to 726 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: be a man from your dad, And I learned hes 727 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: gonna get mad because he's gonna watch this, always throwing 728 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: me under the bus. But it's just true, like it's 729 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 1: something you learn therapy that like, oh, this is how 730 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: you model yourself as a man, and and and so 731 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: we look to sex as a as a form of 732 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: validation for my manlihood, like to make me feel like 733 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,439 Speaker 1: a man. What you're saying is absolutely true. And I've 734 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 1: said that numerous times too. But I guess for me, 735 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: I'm with I'm with women. Yeah, so to do that 736 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: with other men. You got a dady from the Caro Carolina, 737 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 1: I got daddy from sciecingline and well not looking at 738 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: you like more of a man because you sleep with 739 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 1: a bunch of guys. Yeah. Well here's the thing. I mean, Listen, 740 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 1: the difference between me and my dad is that I 741 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: don't leave a trail of children, you know what I mean. Like, 742 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: I'm thankful for that, thank god, because if I was straight, 743 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:56,439 Speaker 1: i'd have seventeen kids. Like that's the only difference. Yeah, yeah, 744 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: thank god for that. There is a part in the 745 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: show where your friend with the the mask. Yeah, one 746 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: of the most honest moments I've seen on the show 747 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: as far as when he says to you, this isn't honesty. 748 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you got all these cameras because that's what it 749 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 3: feels like. 750 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: It feels like it's a curated To me, it feels 751 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 1: like it's a curated exhibition of your sexual exploits. 752 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 753 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: I don't see that. 754 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 3: I don't see the truth that you're trying to reveal. 755 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: You. Look, my job is to remain truthful through all 756 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: of it, and to be truthful on camera and to 757 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: like just be like myself, I stay out of the 758 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: editing room, and there's some truth to that. Yeah, this 759 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: is definitely something that's truncated to thirty minute episodes for 760 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: people to consume and enjoy. But I'm truthful in it. 761 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: That's what's important to me, that I'm truthful and I'm 762 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: really going through these things, like none of that's made up, 763 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: none of that's for the show, none of that's for 764 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,919 Speaker 1: the camera. Like these things, I'm really going through real 765 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: problems in my life. 766 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 3: What is this show doing for you that therapy can. 767 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: Been using it as a form of therapy, because therapy 768 00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 1: is exploring yourself and exploring your past, but it's not 769 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: necessarily confrontation. I still needed a tool to be confident 770 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: enough to have a conversation with my dad that I'd 771 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 1: be terrified having otherwise, Like you know, if I'm home 772 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: in North Carolina, I'm just like, you know, smiling, being 773 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: a good son, being the son that they want me 774 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: to be. And I'm not saying the real things, asking 775 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: the real questions when the camera's on. I've become like 776 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: a journalist for my own life, Like no, no, no, what's 777 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: that shit you said? Ninety eight? You know, I get 778 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: real real, but but without the cameras. I'm afraid you 779 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: think if y'all did family there, but you think you 780 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 1: would be still afraid, Like, yeah, I want to get 781 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: my family to well. I think individual is really important 782 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: because you need to work on yourself and you bring 783 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: that to your life, you bring that to the people 784 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 1: in your life. I think that's really really important. And 785 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: it's funny because therapy is one of those things. I know, 786 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: you talk about it a lot, and it's easy, Like 787 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 1: I don't want people to get a negative like I know, 788 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: like some of the comments would be like, oh, everybody's 789 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: always talking about therapy, but those are people that need 790 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,439 Speaker 1: therapy the most. But like, it's an excuse to talk 791 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: about yourself, that's all it is. It's just an excuse 792 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,240 Speaker 1: to explore things in your life that you wouldn't normally 793 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: explore things that you and those things manifest as health problems, 794 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: they manifest in in ways that you wouldn't imagine. They 795 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: manifest problems in your relationship, problems with raising your kids. Like, 796 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 1: these things are real, they'll come out. It doesn't just 797 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: stay bottled in. It harms your body, it harms your spirit. 798 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,720 Speaker 1: So it's worth talking about. And I want my family 799 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: to do it. I think that it would be beneficial 800 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 1: to all of us. But I'm doing it. That's really 801 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: really important that I'm doing it. I'm I'm working on 802 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 1: myself constantly. 803 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 3: You do show how much of a shitty friend you 804 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:36,839 Speaker 3: are too? 805 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 1: Yeah? No, what you did? I know? I know. Can 806 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: I tell you you can't be a best man in 807 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: a wedding and show up an hour later? Yeah, to 808 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: the wedding. 809 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 3: It's not your wedding and then compare it to jury duty? Why? 810 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 3: You know? 811 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: Look when is it heart? Because I'm a performer, and 812 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: so I look at weddings as a show, like, all right, 813 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: what is this show that we're going to? But but 814 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: I I love Pool and you know, I actually got 815 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 1: to Ahad. We've been talking a lot. I hope that 816 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: he liked the episode. Like he's a very sweet, thoughtful 817 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: friend and inspired me so much, And so I know 818 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 1: I was a bad friend. Again. It's hard exposed like 819 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,879 Speaker 1: the show. I'm like the villain of my own show. 820 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm Eric Kane on my own show. Like I'm like 821 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: people are like because I'm exposed, I'm exposing myself in 822 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 1: a real way, Like the like some of the worst 823 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: parts of myself I'm putting out there unedited, just like 824 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: letting it, letting the world see and judge and criticize. 825 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 1: But I feel bad for that, like I felt bad 826 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 1: an episode of It's something I'm deeply apologetic for. I'm learning. 827 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm still growing. I'm learning to not be as selfish. Sure, 828 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,919 Speaker 1: that's a means of self protection. Like I'm selfish because 829 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: I'm scared. Uh, And I'm learning not be as afraid. 830 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 5: What about with jazz? How are things with jazz. 831 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 1: Just as good? Isn't she a good actress? 832 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 5: Was she acting? 833 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:52,399 Speaker 3: For real? 834 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,439 Speaker 1: She's crying on command? She's so good? 835 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 3: So I was not crying on command. 836 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: She's good, she's good. Listen, listen, if I may say 837 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: so myself, I got a good eye. You know, you 838 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: you the lead just but you know it is another 839 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 1: justice out there. It's pretty big. Another thing you say 840 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,839 Speaker 1: on the show is being honest is cool until you 841 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: have a reason to lie. Yeah, it's well because it's 842 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,439 Speaker 1: like I was living alone and I was the most 843 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 1: honest that I'd ever been. I was just like I 844 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 1: had no one could, no one was going home with me, 845 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: so there was no there was no reason to like 846 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 1: lie to protect. But then I got into a relationship. 847 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: I finally, I mean, it took me a long time. 848 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 1: Took me thirty five years to find someone that I 849 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: love deeply to be in a loving relationship. I'm so 850 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: proud of it. I love them very much. And out 851 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 1: of that love, sometimes I can fall into traps where 852 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,879 Speaker 1: I'm lying about myself because I want to protect the relationship. 853 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,760 Speaker 1: It's a habit, it's a real masculine habit. Or I'm lying, 854 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 1: but I'm the protector, Like I'm lying for a good reason. 855 00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,080 Speaker 1: You kind of justify it, and some like lies b 856 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: omission are there's still lies. He's like, but I when 857 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: I have someone that I care about, somebody that I love, 858 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: it's easy to slip into that old habit of of 859 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,760 Speaker 1: of lying because I want I want him to feel 860 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,959 Speaker 1: good about me. I his image of me is really 861 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 1: really important to me. 862 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 3: And he says, it's hard to tell the truth to 863 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 3: people you love. 864 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you not feel that way? Do you not 865 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,359 Speaker 1: feel that way? Sometimes? Like like yeah, because the consequences 866 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: are so the stakes are so high. I say that 867 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 1: to my mom, Like like, sometimes I'm talking to my 868 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 1: mom I'm like, hey, be careful what you say to me, 869 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,839 Speaker 1: because I'll remember it for the rest of my life. 870 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 1: Every word that she says. It's so curious. Yeah yeah, 871 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 1: but some. 872 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,240 Speaker 3: Things I feel like need to be said. 873 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: Yeah some things. Yeah, some things, But you know it takes. Look, 874 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,399 Speaker 1: you want to say the truth with love and care, 875 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 1: you know, but you the truth needs to come out. 876 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,280 Speaker 1: You don't want to hold onto anything. And sometimes lashing 877 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,720 Speaker 1: out isn't truthful. Sometimes lashing out. 878 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:57,800 Speaker 3: Is just you emotion. 879 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're being emotional about not saying the truth, like 880 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: you're actually doing the opposite of absolutely is Michael an 881 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: industry plant? Yeah? What what was that? Who said that 882 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,439 Speaker 1: we got? We got? Uh? Was that? Like a Corey 883 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 1: holcom thing? 884 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,399 Speaker 5: Is love? 885 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 1: I wish? Is that energy on a special? Cory is 886 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: so funny? Corey? Corey is so funny. I was like, 887 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,359 Speaker 1: laughed so hard at Corey just when I was a 888 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,359 Speaker 1: young comic, like just watching them and it's like, man, 889 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: you got like, don't get old. Yeah, his audience has 890 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 1: to be Yeah, it's like Jesus Christy, I mean funny, 891 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: it's funny, But but are you am I an industry plant? 892 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I wish the Illuminati was real. I 893 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,320 Speaker 1: wish that I could be a plant. I had fucking 894 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: sign up in a heartbeat. No, I actually, unfortunately, I 895 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 1: had to work hard to get where I am at 896 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 1: the like like think and expose. I'm exposing so much 897 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 1: of my life. That's the thing. Like sometimes you get 898 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 1: these criticism from people who've made nothing, and I'm like, 899 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: you know, that's what's offensive to me. It's like, no 900 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: focus on your own work. I've worked very, very hard 901 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 1: to get where I am. And but yeah, if I 902 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:09,839 Speaker 1: could have sucked the dick to get to the top, 903 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 1: I suck because you want to do it. No, I'm 904 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 1: joking saying. I'm saying as a joke. I'm saying as 905 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,240 Speaker 1: a job like like like like I talk cause Littlerell 906 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 1: was defending you on clubs. You know. You know the 907 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 1: funny thing too, you know. I also like if I 908 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 1: make now sound like a rapper, But like like a 909 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,799 Speaker 1: lot of these comedians who like criticized me, it's like no, no, 910 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 1: Like before I came out, coming out was the hardest 911 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,320 Speaker 1: thing I ever did in my life. I was like afraid. 912 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 1: I also I had multiple specials. I had uh sitcom 913 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 1: on NBC that ran for three three seasons. I had 914 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 1: I was faking. I was getting other people shows like 915 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: I was. I was more successful than I'm straight. So 916 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: then to pretend that like, oh, like he came out, 917 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 1: like that's silly, that's silly. I don't even entertain that. 918 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,880 Speaker 1: It feels like you've been trying to come out like 919 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,839 Speaker 1: the past three h field things you did though, because 920 00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 1: there was the other it was another reality show that 921 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 1: was kind of even oh like the well, well I 922 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 1: did documentaries about my life. Yeah, yeah, that was like 923 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 1: that was my soft launch. 924 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 925 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 926 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: People were just like kind of dispisted, but whatever. In 927 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: the stand up, well, that's when I was being truthful. 928 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 1: I said it like it was. It was truthful. I 929 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,399 Speaker 1: said it ten tolls down, like this is who I am. 930 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: And it's a hard thing. It's scary. Revealing something about 931 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 1: yourself is really really scary. And that's that's the thing. 932 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 1: Like with criticisms, I'm like, listen, look at yourself, look 933 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,319 Speaker 1: at your own art. If you are to criticize me, 934 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 1: please make sure you're making art that you care about 935 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 1: more than a podcast, more than any of these things. 936 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 1: Make sure you're making a tangible thing that people care 937 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 1: about before you start attacking me. 938 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 3: I don't think being gay on TV is as shocking 939 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 3: as it once was. 940 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 1: It was shocking in my personal life. That's all I care. Like. 941 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 1: The art that I make is about the difficulty that 942 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,479 Speaker 1: I had. I'd tell my mother that and that's hard. 943 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 1: Like yeah, like sure, like yeah, maybe yeah, maybe the 944 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 1: landscape is changed. I'm thankful for any gay person. And 945 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 1: it came out before. That made it a little bit 946 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 1: easier for me, but it was still a very difficult 947 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,799 Speaker 1: thing to reveal about my life. And there you know 948 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 1: that's that's not easy. It wasn't easy. I can tell 949 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 1: you're ready to go back. I want to ask because 950 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 1: you just mentioned something. You said that you had all 951 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,359 Speaker 1: of this great stuff going on before you came out. 952 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 1: So do you feel like coming out as gay is 953 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,879 Speaker 1: taking away the focus on on everything. 954 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:22,359 Speaker 3: You've done in your career? 955 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 1: Now still exists streaming on Hulu? What's My Man? What 956 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,799 Speaker 1: happened to you? Mac? Was out there? 957 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 3: I google you? What's gonna come up to say? 958 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 1: What you said? If you google Dave, it's all transgender 959 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,399 Speaker 1: stuff things I talked about. Watch the show. I hope 960 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 1: people watch the show like if you if you see 961 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 1: the show, you'll see the truth. You know, I'm confident 962 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 1: in that, Like you know, I think this, like up top, 963 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 1: I was just upset because something untrue. Was I say 964 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 1: enough things, enough true things to talk about, like I 965 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 1: don't need any lies, like like I don't need any 966 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 1: of that. But yeah, I'm I'm making art about my 967 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 1: life and and I'm really proud out of it. I 968 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 1: hope people watch the show. That that's the important thing. 969 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 1: I tent you out episodes. Please send it just and 970 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,439 Speaker 1: is it an episode of the show. 971 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 2: Damn me, I'm sitting online looking at clips, looking at 972 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 2: stand ups that you've done because they. 973 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 1: Know each other, we've met before, about you in the shower, 974 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,800 Speaker 1: you in the showers, and they just send me anything 975 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 1: wanted you old himself. 976 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 3: Because it comes on I mean after Bill ma. 977 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 1: I mean I liked, but it also comes on after 978 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,840 Speaker 1: Bill mar which is a great leader. Yeah, I'm already 979 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:38,799 Speaker 1: watching TV on. I think the show is funny, kind 980 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:46,799 Speaker 1: of funny, funny like man, y'all so straight. Yeah, it's 981 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,840 Speaker 1: just Paul funny, like Jesus Christ, you are so straight. 982 00:45:51,920 --> 00:46:03,800 Speaker 7: Congratulations call Michael, ladies and doing that brought you a candle. 983 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 7: Thank you very much and I have to check out 984 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,839 Speaker 7: the reality show Fridays on HBO Max. 985 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 4: Thank you brother for joining us, Thanks for having me 986 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 4: very much. 987 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 1: Wake that answer up in the morning Breakfast Club