WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: On Location

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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<v Speaker 1>a Break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>Were on the Break Today is Wednesday, January twenty second, twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>season fifteen, Episode one twelve of The Break, Live from Mobile,

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<v Speaker 1>Alabama and the Reese's Senior Bowl. David Hellman, Nick Eatman,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Kyle Yeoman's billing in for Derek Eagle. To much

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<v Speaker 1>did Derek pay you to like know that episode? Zbro

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<v Speaker 1>and all that stuff? I don't know, Zbro. I went

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<v Speaker 1>back and listen to it. Now, the thing is, what'd

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<v Speaker 1>you find when he went back and listen to it.

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't the first time it's been correct all year.

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<v Speaker 1>He hasn't switched it to twenty twenty. Yeah, Well, he

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<v Speaker 1>go the first two, he goes by a completely, he

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<v Speaker 1>go by season, he goes by the start of the

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<v Speaker 1>league year. It's his own thing. Did not mean to

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<v Speaker 1>have a five minute discussion about Derek's show. See, I

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<v Speaker 1>just thought it was interesting that he said that he

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<v Speaker 1>keeps saying twenty nineteen and we've never caught it. It

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<v Speaker 1>means we're not paying attention. It's okay, okay. I went

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<v Speaker 1>back and listened to it to pick it up, just

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of like bring it up for you to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to. So I'm all over the place, but we

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<v Speaker 1>are live from Mobile, Alabama, the Reese's Senior Bowl all

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<v Speaker 1>the week long here on Dallas Cowboys dot com. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not the Draft Show. Despite the background, Cowboys break

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<v Speaker 1>being represented by these two from Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>But guys, a fun week already. Day one in the books,

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<v Speaker 1>Day two coming up today. We'll be heading out to

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<v Speaker 1>practices here in just a little bit. But really, after

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<v Speaker 1>day one of the Senior Bowl, there were a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of storylines Cowboys wise. Stephen Jones talked to the media

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<v Speaker 1>and then you guys really got a chance to dive

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<v Speaker 1>in and look at some of these guys that the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys could potentially be looking for come Draft day in April. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the time of year where you're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>still talking about last year, but not as much, you

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<v Speaker 1>know now, because you got a coaching change. All eyes

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<v Speaker 1>are forward, but you know this is you can look

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<v Speaker 1>at the players on the field, and you know or

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<v Speaker 1>do you need do you need some of these guys?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they gonna come in? Are they gonna fit in

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<v Speaker 1>this team? And then of course you got one eye

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<v Speaker 1>on the field. He got also like where Steven worst Jerry?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's kind of why another reason why we're here.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Senior Bowl always has like multiple purposes that

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to figure out here some cowboys, some future cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe yeah it uh. I think it speaks to what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on with the Cowboys right now that this is

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<v Speaker 1>as small of a contingent as I can ever remember

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<v Speaker 1>coming to the Senior Bowl for the team we sent everybody. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's because that's what we do. But I mean, Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>Jones was barely in Mobile. I think he had to

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<v Speaker 1>go to an award ceremony in Houston last night. Mike

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<v Speaker 1>McCarthy and his coaching staff stayed back. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>really this is Stephen Jones and the scouting department. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I don't want to call it bare bones

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<v Speaker 1>because the whole scouting department is here, But I think

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<v Speaker 1>it speaks to the focus that Mike McCarthy's got on

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<v Speaker 1>what they need to get going at the Star, getting

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<v Speaker 1>his program in place, and as a draft nerd, I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of dig that, like the focus is so on

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<v Speaker 1>the draft here at the Senior Bowl, which is obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the point, but to Nick's point, there's usually so many

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<v Speaker 1>other things going on here, but it really seems like

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys are focused on the draft. We've we've done

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<v Speaker 1>these in the past where Jerry tucks for thirty forty

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<v Speaker 1>minutes and then Steven will talk for thirty minutes and

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<v Speaker 1>Will McClay maybe, and you know, it was nine and

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<v Speaker 1>a half minutes yesterday with Stephen Jones. Now, some of

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<v Speaker 1>that could have been the fact that it was really cold,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't care what the phone says of how

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<v Speaker 1>cold it was. It says forty two degrees or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it was. It was worse than that. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>only down there for ten minutes. All these guys that

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<v Speaker 1>are in here that are behind the scenes working on

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff, they were bundled up and it was like

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<v Speaker 1>arctic freeze down there. A Scott Purcell was in a

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<v Speaker 1>ski jacket the whole time and having fun with that.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's why Stephen Jones, after about five minutes, it

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<v Speaker 1>was like anything else, guys, No, we're not can do

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<v Speaker 1>this in Dallas, can't we? But there wasn't a lot

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of came out of yesterday. We can. We

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<v Speaker 1>can get into some of it, obviously we will, but

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, there wasn't this hard pressing like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, I can't believe that, you know, sure, Jason

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<v Speaker 1>Witten still still not talking about Jason Witten. Happy for

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Garrett. I mean things that you know, you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of expected. It's kind of going back to the coaching

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<v Speaker 1>staff before we get into Stephen. We'll hear that some

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<v Speaker 1>of the quotes from Steven here in just a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>But with Mike McCarthy in his move here from Green

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<v Speaker 1>Bay originally where he didn't necessarily have a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>of say come draft process wise, does that speak to

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<v Speaker 1>him trusting the scouting staff so early on in his

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<v Speaker 1>tenure by sticking back and not being in Mobile or

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<v Speaker 1>is this just kind of changing of the guard in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of the coaching staff and what he has to

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<v Speaker 1>do back in Frisco. I think it's a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of both. Actually, yeah, I do think that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>with the Senior Bowl, it was like, all right, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>go out there, Let's find some good players. Tell me,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me the guys we need to be looking at,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we get to the combine and maybe some

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<v Speaker 1>pro days we'll look at them. You know, we'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what we think and if maybe break some ties

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. But they're still in that process, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>evaluate the guys, tell us who's out there, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we'll give you our input when it's time. That is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most fascinating storylines for me for this

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<v Speaker 1>entire offseason is what that relationship is going to be like,

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean, if you watch the Draft show where

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<v Speaker 1>you follow the draft process, it's a tail as old

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<v Speaker 1>as time that it's such a collective process, and the

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<v Speaker 1>coaches had a large say in that. You know, Tristan Hill,

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<v Speaker 1>the coaches had a large say in getting him to Dallas.

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<v Speaker 1>The coaches were in love with Layton vanderash not to

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<v Speaker 1>dog on him too much. I mean, they made some

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<v Speaker 1>good decisions too, but they had a heavy hand in

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<v Speaker 1>that process. We are still trying to figure out just

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<v Speaker 1>how heavy Mike McCarthy's hand is going to be. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>It's one thing for him to say, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>want good players, let's go find some good players, But

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<v Speaker 1>when it gets down to nutcutting time, are you are

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<v Speaker 1>they really going to sit back and not be part

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<v Speaker 1>of it? Because that hasn't been the way that it's

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<v Speaker 1>been with the Cowboys for the last decade. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we try to talk to Stephen Jones about that yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's still early in the process to really

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<v Speaker 1>have a firm handle on how that's going to work.

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<v Speaker 1>But I can't wait to see what that collective decision

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<v Speaker 1>making process is going to look like with the new

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<v Speaker 1>regime and with the new regime and everything that it

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<v Speaker 1>has to kind of be put in place for McCarthy

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<v Speaker 1>as a whole. What is it going to be like?

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<v Speaker 1>And how much realistic film are these guys gonna watch

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<v Speaker 1>before the draft process is really getting a new crunch time, right,

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's what I'm saying. It's the biggest thing. And

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, they will like they're not just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>ignore the process like that would be criminal, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you want your coaches to be part of

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<v Speaker 1>selecting your draft class. But like I said, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>what Mike McCarthy has been hired for about three weeks

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<v Speaker 1>and his coaching staff has been in place for less

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<v Speaker 1>than that. So I don't think that they're ready to

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<v Speaker 1>hit the reck ground running on that as of yet.

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<v Speaker 1>That's you know, Mike didn't bring his staff here, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think is a great decision honestly, with all the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff they've got to get squared away. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>February March, you know you're gonna bring it. You know

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<v Speaker 1>you're still bringing in official visitors. They get a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of thirty of them to bring into the facility. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>your coaching staff is gonna be part of that. So again,

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<v Speaker 1>really interested to see just how hands on or hands

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<v Speaker 1>off they are looking at what Stephen Jones also talked

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<v Speaker 1>about yesterday, talked a little bit about Jason Witten and

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<v Speaker 1>also just where the priority lies in terms of these

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<v Speaker 1>free agents and exactly what the Cowboys are going to

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<v Speaker 1>do in order to attack those free agents. Let's take

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<v Speaker 1>a listen, Reseach, Well, that's already it's been urgent for us.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to certainly get that done and that's our

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<v Speaker 1>number one priority as we go into the off season

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<v Speaker 1>as to get his contract hopefully, you know, find some

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<v Speaker 1>resolution to it and get that bunch. Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>any idea on idea on the future of their has

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<v Speaker 1>it been anything and he had discussions. Really nothing there

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<v Speaker 1>to comment on. We talked about last off season. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of this time is taken the next step. Even

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<v Speaker 1>though you have all these free agents, you have a

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<v Speaker 1>new coaching staff, is that still the goal is absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>and uh no, I think we've got a good, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>good team that's in its prime. We've got a good

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<v Speaker 1>mixture of players. And you know, part of the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why dri and I were really set on finding not

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<v Speaker 1>only a coach with experience, but a coach that had

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<v Speaker 1>you know, had real success in the playoffs and uh

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<v Speaker 1>you know it played in big games, and that was

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<v Speaker 1>very important that we find that guy because we do

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<v Speaker 1>believe this team, you know, can certainly have that type

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<v Speaker 1>of success. Just putting a franchise tag on a quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>change a lot of what you would want to do

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<v Speaker 1>in free agency. Last limit you if you have to

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<v Speaker 1>tag around that Jones saying they're definitively Dak Prescott's our guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's our number one priority in free agency. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily new, right, But the thing is he said Amari

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<v Speaker 1>is number two. Amaris the second priority. Where does that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of resonate with you guys, because now it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sets the pecking order as to what the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>are going to do in the office. Well, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it should because you know, when when Dak is

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<v Speaker 1>the key to everything here. Um. I asked even yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>about can you function with all the things you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do if you're giving him a franchise tag? And

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<v Speaker 1>he sounded like that was no big deal. Sure, that's

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<v Speaker 1>just thirty million on the cap, right or what is

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<v Speaker 1>it twenty? Well, it's thirty three if they go exclusive,

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<v Speaker 1>which but I mean they got eighty game million in

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<v Speaker 1>cap space, I think people, which I get it, they've

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<v Speaker 1>got like twenty seven guys to resign, but the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of room to work with. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>do just thirty three million, just like that. I would

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<v Speaker 1>it mean we'll throw another sixteen on top of it

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<v Speaker 1>if you transition Taka Marii Cooper. Now you're talking, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not good at math, but that's about

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<v Speaker 1>fifty million. Yeah, I don't do that. Don't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to do that? And then when does

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<v Speaker 1>that put the rest of your roster guys like Byron

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<v Speaker 1>Jones fun Yeah, exactly. You're you're you're basically writing him

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<v Speaker 1>off at that point. Yeah, and that's when when he

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<v Speaker 1>was walking off, he said one and two. And it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a one A and one B. This was a

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<v Speaker 1>Dak is one and Mari's two and So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that's super surprising though now, I mean to you,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's something we could have guessed that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think, you know, there's always going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the contention of people that want to try to deal

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<v Speaker 1>Dak or you know, find somebody in the draft that's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to happen. I don't know how betimes if

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<v Speaker 1>you've been hit up for Joe Burrow more times than

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<v Speaker 1>I can count, and it's fun to talk about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not going to happen, which I'm but I

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<v Speaker 1>am interested to see what exactly that looks like, because

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<v Speaker 1>if I had to guess Dak is heading for a

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<v Speaker 1>franchise tag like that, you just you don't see very

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<v Speaker 1>many of these negotiations sort themselves out before the start

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<v Speaker 1>of the league year, because I mean, theoretically Dak could

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<v Speaker 1>hit free agency and see how much he's truly worth.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously he would want to do that. And yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>gone so far. It's gone so far here where even

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<v Speaker 1>the season was gone. It's been some really good moments

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<v Speaker 1>from Dak. It's been some moments where you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>obviously could could be better. I mean at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, I mean he was an eight and

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<v Speaker 1>eight quarterback, and yes, he put up a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>yards and he had some moments of growth. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>even though one of the coaches there is no longer here,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean John Kitten. I think Kitten had helped a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Kellen Moore I'm sure helped some as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But I you know, the fact is is that Dak

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't in the season the way you want him to.

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<v Speaker 1>You want this guy to be a clutch make plays

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<v Speaker 1>in the fourth quarter, bring him back when they need to.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't do that. Do I think he's still a

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<v Speaker 1>franchise court Yes, I mean he's the guy. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>change it. I just don't know if he helped himself

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<v Speaker 1>from a money standpoint. And then there's gonna be guys

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<v Speaker 1>that did. There's guys that went on over the top

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<v Speaker 1>that are you know, I had elevated themselves. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>strong free agents class of quarterbacks well, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>you can go all the way back to last year's

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<v Speaker 1>off season with Dak, especially the talks that were had

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<v Speaker 1>going into the preseason when they really kind of ramped up,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's where you got the thirty to forty million

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<v Speaker 1>kind of range that they were talking about in there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think Dak at that moment, said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>let's put a pause on this. Let me bet on myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me bet on myself for just a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>And it worked out. At the beginning, it looked like

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<v Speaker 1>the first couple weeks of the season he was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>win that bet, and he was gonna win it outright.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not gonna say he necessarily lost the bet

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like we're right back where we started

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<v Speaker 1>last year, right around the low thirties potentially being that

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<v Speaker 1>number that really gets this deal done. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be totally honest with you, and I hope so. Yes, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>And I know he went eight and eight. I know

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't get the job done. But how much did

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<v Speaker 1>he win it though? That's the question. All I know

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<v Speaker 1>is the San Francisco forty nine ers set the market

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<v Speaker 1>with Jimmy Garoppolo back at twenty seven million three years

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<v Speaker 1>ago off the strength of eight games, and it looks

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<v Speaker 1>great now because he's in the super Bowl. They had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea that was going to happen when they signed

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<v Speaker 1>him to that deal. Same thing with that, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>does Derek Carr have a better resume than Dak Prescott. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but he set the market at one time in his

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<v Speaker 1>life Matt Stafford. Dak has already accomplished more than Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Stafford in terms of like postseason success. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot, but he has and so and he

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<v Speaker 1>set the market like And that's what I always argue

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<v Speaker 1>with people about, is that's just the way these things work.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think, sorry, I know you got a point

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<v Speaker 1>to make. But Dak was already in the range with

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<v Speaker 1>Carson Winston, Jared Goff, and he went out and had

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<v Speaker 1>the best season of his career. I know a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people don't want to hear that, but if anything,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he firmly entrenched himself in the low to

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<v Speaker 1>mid thirty range. He might not set the market, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's not going below that and the other and then

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<v Speaker 1>you know the other part, which Stephen Jones did an

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<v Speaker 1>amazing job of not answering the question is Pat Mahomes

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<v Speaker 1>and Deshaun Watson are eligible to negotiate contracts this offseason?

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<v Speaker 1>Pat Mahomes is probably going to be the first forty

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<v Speaker 1>million dollar player in NFL history, And all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>Dak's price ceiling goes up, like you could pay him

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<v Speaker 1>thirty four right now. But if Pat Mahomes gets forty

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<v Speaker 1>in two months, and all of a sudden, Dax says, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I want thirty seven if Pat gets forty, And again,

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<v Speaker 1>I know people don't want to hear that, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>just the way these types of things work. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think Dak Prescott is sitting prickedy right see if But

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<v Speaker 1>to me, if Mahomes gets forty, if I'm the Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, how could you even be thirty seven? How

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<v Speaker 1>could you be close to that? Like? Is how is

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<v Speaker 1>he close to Pat Mahomes at all? Yeah? I mean statistically,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's Super Bowl that's what the Chief's willingness to

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<v Speaker 1>pay Mahomes says a starting quarterback is worth. That's why, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm just saying, you know that to me, when

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<v Speaker 1>Russell Wilson got into thirty six. I was like, Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>how can you be higher than that? I mean, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not one of the best quarterbacks in the league won

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<v Speaker 1>a super Bowl if they would run the ball. He

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<v Speaker 1>wins two super Bowls, you know, I mean he's got

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's just done more with his career, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think Pat Mahomes has as well, even Watson has, so

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it just depends on Watson's done more

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<v Speaker 1>than Dak. He hasn't been to an AFC championship game.

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<v Speaker 1>He's lost four divisional right down the year's Dak. But

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<v Speaker 1>I know that's what I'm saying. I'm saying, if anything,

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<v Speaker 1>they're even Yeah, I guess they're I guess they're even

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<v Speaker 1>one year behind in the draft. How many playoff wins

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<v Speaker 1>does Watson have? It can't be more than one or two, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's two, okay, because they've well know they've

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<v Speaker 1>won four division titles or division Oh, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's right around three. Probably it's on his third year.

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<v Speaker 1>Which to go back to my point, though I know

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<v Speaker 1>Garoppolos in the Super Bowl, his resume was not better

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<v Speaker 1>when he set the market, and neither was Derek carrs

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<v Speaker 1>Kirk Cousins just final like he just made his longest

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<v Speaker 1>playoff push and he got obliterated in the divisional round,

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<v Speaker 1>just like that did. So those deals to me are

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<v Speaker 1>always fifty percent what you've done, fifty percent of what

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to do. And you know, if that's the

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<v Speaker 1>case with Mahomes, it's really scary because I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>he's getting paid what he's done and what he's gonna do,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be higher. Then forty may not be may

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<v Speaker 1>not get it done, true, and you're one hundred percent right. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>Pat Mahomes is in his category all of his own.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not the point I'm trying to make. But if

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<v Speaker 1>Pat Mahomes signs that deal this offseason, like that's the

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<v Speaker 1>way negotiations work, Dak and his people are going to

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<v Speaker 1>see that that. I would be shocked if they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to try to like compete with Mahomes's number, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say, well, we slot in here now, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because thirty six million a year is all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot less than top of the market. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's just the way it works, which is why I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's so important for them to get this deal

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<v Speaker 1>done sooner rather than later. What if the Chiefs, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean they're not in a hurry, they don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>do No, they absolutely don't. They absolutely do not. They've

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<v Speaker 1>got him under contract for two more years. They could

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<v Speaker 1>pay it. I mean, can you imagine what he will

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<v Speaker 1>make in his fourth year if he's if he's unreal again, Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what if they just say we're not doing anything right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he's probably would hold out, he could, that mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's fat. I mean he is so far

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<v Speaker 1>in a way like the best player in the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Just int like what he brings to that team.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the you know, sitting here arguing Dak's credentials

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<v Speaker 1>can't say anything about Mahomes. I mean, he's been to

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<v Speaker 1>the AFC title Game in both of his years as

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<v Speaker 1>the starter, he made it to the Super Bowl in

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<v Speaker 1>his second season. Larry Well could win the Super Bowls.

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<v Speaker 1>There's like no knock on his credentials at all. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't do anything with it, which yeah, I mean he

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<v Speaker 1>could almost name his price well. And I think the

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<v Speaker 1>argument that you brought up about comparing Dak in Deshaun

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<v Speaker 1>Watson's resume, I think Dad needs to probably stand true.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's where I see where you're you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about in terms of the contract potentially for Dak growing

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit because des John Watson's in that same

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<v Speaker 1>conversation right now, is Patrick Mahomes as those guys that

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<v Speaker 1>could be re up contract wise. But we'll dive deeper

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<v Speaker 1>the Reese's Senior Bowl. Now Keatman, Dave Elman, Kyle Yeoman's

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<v Speaker 1>the road here from Alabama and guys the Senior Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>this week. And we talked a little bit about Stephen

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<v Speaker 1>Jones in the deck in Amari contract situation going on

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<v Speaker 1>this offseason. But of course he was here for a reason.

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<v Speaker 1>He was watching players, he was scouting a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>couple of moments yesterday he only stayed for the first practice,

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<v Speaker 1>which was the South team here in Mobile, but at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time he in speaking with you guys in

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the media following that first practice, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of talked about the shift of players and the importance

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<v Speaker 1>of the Cowboys to potentially draft just playmakers as opposed

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<v Speaker 1>used to seeing as Cowboys fans for quite some time.

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<v Speaker 1>How much is a shift? Is that? Is that a

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<v Speaker 1>huge ship monumental that Cowboys fans don't even really know

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<v Speaker 1>where to look at because it's been such a common

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<v Speaker 1>thing for us. I think, you know, I asked the

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<v Speaker 1>question to Steven. I thought he was going to give

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<v Speaker 1>me an answer. I was like, well, that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>what we've always done, But he didn't. He said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it is kind of a change. And and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's we've talked about this before. We hate when when

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<v Speaker 1>there was free agents there, like why don't they get

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<v Speaker 1>this guy? You know, he's he's a great player, and

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<v Speaker 1>they need this position, they need a safety, they need

0:21:26.400 --> 0:21:28.919
<v Speaker 1>a linebacker, they need this guy. Yeah, he's not a

0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:31.720
<v Speaker 1>good scheme fit. These defensive tackles not a good scheme fit.

0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:33.639
<v Speaker 1>And we're like, all right, well this scheme's got you

0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:35.760
<v Speaker 1>eight and eight. I'm like, like, what, you know, it's

0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:38.000
<v Speaker 1>just been frustrating. Yeah, so now we'll see if it

0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:40.399
<v Speaker 1>if it actually goes down like this, But it just

0:21:40.440 --> 0:21:43.080
<v Speaker 1>sounds like let's just get the players in, let's see

0:21:43.080 --> 0:21:45.400
<v Speaker 1>what we've got, and then then we'll figure it out.

0:21:45.840 --> 0:21:47.240
<v Speaker 1>That kind of goes back to what I was saying.

0:21:47.280 --> 0:21:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I want to see how that works because like at

0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:52.160
<v Speaker 1>the end, like there's gonna be some element of that,

0:21:52.400 --> 0:21:55.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, like you're not gonna draft a quarterback at

0:21:55.040 --> 0:21:57.800
<v Speaker 1>seventeen potentially if you're of course, if you resigned back,

0:21:57.880 --> 0:22:00.679
<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna go for well not only that, but

0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:02.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean you can even look at free agency and

0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:05.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean Mike Nolan's going to have a

0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:08.200
<v Speaker 1>preferred type of safety that he thinks can play well

0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:11.080
<v Speaker 1>for him, or defensive tackle for that matter. It might

0:22:11.119 --> 0:22:14.560
<v Speaker 1>be a completely different archetype from what we're used to

0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:17.280
<v Speaker 1>under Rod Marinelli. But coaches are still going to have

0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:21.120
<v Speaker 1>their preference. But I wonder again how much say will

0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:24.080
<v Speaker 1>they have or will they just you know, I love

0:22:24.119 --> 0:22:26.080
<v Speaker 1>the idea, I really I need to we need to

0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:28.560
<v Speaker 1>find will McClay and talk to him. I love the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of Mike McCarthy just giving him a spreadsheet of like,

0:22:32.000 --> 0:22:34.240
<v Speaker 1>this is what we're looking for in terms of traits

0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:37.920
<v Speaker 1>at every position. Go do your thing, and that's I mean,

0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:40.359
<v Speaker 1>that's how I would ideally like this to go. Is

0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:42.399
<v Speaker 1>if Will's kind of got the grocery list and he's like,

0:22:42.400 --> 0:22:43.800
<v Speaker 1>all right, this is what they're looking for. I think

0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:45.919
<v Speaker 1>I can figure this out. That would be interesting to

0:22:45.960 --> 0:22:49.159
<v Speaker 1>look at, just to see the kind of conversations that

0:22:49.800 --> 0:22:52.520
<v Speaker 1>would be had between the coaching staff and the scouting

0:22:52.520 --> 0:22:54.520
<v Speaker 1>department with like we talked about in the first segment,

0:22:54.680 --> 0:22:58.520
<v Speaker 1>such a new rapport between those two departments, the coaching

0:22:58.560 --> 0:23:00.960
<v Speaker 1>staff and scouting and Stephen. It's I mean, Steven said

0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:04.160
<v Speaker 1>yesterday that there have already been some productive talks between

0:23:04.280 --> 0:23:07.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, McCarthy and and Will and him and Jerry

0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:10.160
<v Speaker 1>just kind of the whole front office brain trust. I mean,

0:23:10.240 --> 0:23:13.000
<v Speaker 1>it hasn't been a long time, but obviously, I mean,

0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:14.760
<v Speaker 1>you want to get those ducks in a row heading

0:23:14.800 --> 0:23:16.840
<v Speaker 1>into the draft projects. Almost sounds like you don't need

0:23:16.880 --> 0:23:18.760
<v Speaker 1>it as much, you know, you don't really need to

0:23:19.320 --> 0:23:21.480
<v Speaker 1>make sure, you know, if you had a new scout

0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:23.400
<v Speaker 1>that came in like let's say last year or two

0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:25.919
<v Speaker 1>years ago, and he's like, I got this defensive tackle.

0:23:25.960 --> 0:23:28.879
<v Speaker 1>They're like, whoa, whoa, do you know what Rod Marinelli

0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:31.600
<v Speaker 1>likes and all that. Well, no, but well you need

0:23:31.600 --> 0:23:33.400
<v Speaker 1>to you need to figure it out. In this case,

0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:35.480
<v Speaker 1>it's like, all right, I got some two or three

0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:37.760
<v Speaker 1>really good players. We're going to figure this out, and

0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:40.199
<v Speaker 1>you guys decide which one you like. I like this

0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:42.720
<v Speaker 1>one over this one, and you know, and it's not

0:23:42.800 --> 0:23:45.159
<v Speaker 1>like you have to know the coaches and you know,

0:23:45.240 --> 0:23:47.480
<v Speaker 1>scouts don't need to go on some retreat together and

0:23:47.520 --> 0:23:50.240
<v Speaker 1>hang out and know each other. You know. It's like

0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:52.520
<v Speaker 1>and clearly they didn't, you know, they didn't. They didn't

0:23:52.520 --> 0:23:54.879
<v Speaker 1>come here for you know. But again there's still a

0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:57.719
<v Speaker 1>combine and that's really when it gets when it gets serious.

0:23:58.200 --> 0:24:00.280
<v Speaker 1>Now you start ramping it up a little bit. Yeah,

0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:02.679
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's you know, I kind of loved Mike

0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:05.160
<v Speaker 1>McCarthy's honesty last week when he met with us, and

0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:06.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's got a lot of work to do

0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:10.560
<v Speaker 1>getting everything together in Frisco. But he was also like, yeah,

0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, the tape is like HD quality well, like,

0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:15.040
<v Speaker 1>what do I need to be in mobile for? I

0:24:15.040 --> 0:24:16.760
<v Speaker 1>can just flip it on in my office. I was like,

0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:20.080
<v Speaker 1>you're absolutely right, Like if you're not in networking, I

0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:22.400
<v Speaker 1>mean I get why the scouts are here, that makes sense,

0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:24.119
<v Speaker 1>But like, if you're not looking for a job or

0:24:24.160 --> 0:24:26.359
<v Speaker 1>looking to network in this day and age, I'm not

0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:28.760
<v Speaker 1>sure what benefit there is for a coach to be

0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:30.800
<v Speaker 1>here because you're gonna have a chance to meet with

0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:34.000
<v Speaker 1>all these guys in Indianapolis. They can come to your facility,

0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:36.200
<v Speaker 1>you can go work them out. You're gonna have about

0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:39.840
<v Speaker 1>twenty five opportunities to see all of these guys. So

0:24:39.920 --> 0:24:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate McCarthy's honesty, Like yeah, I mean we can.

0:24:42.760 --> 0:24:45.320
<v Speaker 1>We can watch these practices anywhere. And they won. I

0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:47.399
<v Speaker 1>mean that was that was the winner, because if you know,

0:24:47.440 --> 0:24:50.080
<v Speaker 1>if they're gonna get the tape and they're gonna watch

0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:52.640
<v Speaker 1>it in seventy two degree, you know, yeah, yeah, they're

0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:54.320
<v Speaker 1>good for real. Yeah, they didn't have to put on

0:24:54.400 --> 0:24:56.600
<v Speaker 1>four layers or five layers to get a lot of

0:24:56.680 --> 0:25:01.200
<v Speaker 1>use out of my heavy jacket Gulf Coast weather. With

0:25:01.240 --> 0:25:03.800
<v Speaker 1>all that being said, you're talking about McCarthy and the

0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:06.640
<v Speaker 1>generality that he has in terms of saying, we aren't

0:25:06.640 --> 0:25:08.880
<v Speaker 1>going to define a scheme yet. I mean, he said

0:25:08.960 --> 0:25:10.920
<v Speaker 1>last week that there's gonna be four men up front

0:25:11.040 --> 0:25:13.280
<v Speaker 1>on the defensive side. Took a while to get that

0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:18.399
<v Speaker 1>out exactly like he really didn't. But even when he

0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:20.560
<v Speaker 1>said it, he's still kind of backtracked it a little

0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:22.160
<v Speaker 1>bit and said, hey, we're gonna run everything. Though, good

0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 1>watch out, We're gonna run a little bit of everything.

0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:26.879
<v Speaker 1>Let's go. Is this mindset in terms of going and

0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:30.320
<v Speaker 1>scouting players based off of the fact that you don't

0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:32.399
<v Speaker 1>really know exactly what scheme you're gonna run on defense

0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:35.520
<v Speaker 1>and the majority of our draft needs are probably relying

0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:38.680
<v Speaker 1>on that side of the ball, Well, I think, I mean,

0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:41.160
<v Speaker 1>they've got a better idea than we do, obviously, and

0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:44.639
<v Speaker 1>which again I think it's exciting because you know, the

0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:47.320
<v Speaker 1>analogy I always beat into the ground with the you know,

0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:49.840
<v Speaker 1>the Garrett regime was like colored by numbers, you know,

0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:52.879
<v Speaker 1>is like, well, this is our defensive tackle and he

0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:55.640
<v Speaker 1>goes here and this is our cornerback and he did

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:59.000
<v Speaker 1>like just very regimented. And that's you know, that's why

0:25:59.040 --> 0:26:01.960
<v Speaker 1>a guy like Tyron matt if you supposedly didn't fit

0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:04.440
<v Speaker 1>here because basically they were like, well, he doesn't have

0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 1>a clear cut position, so we don't know what to

0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:10.040
<v Speaker 1>do with him. That drove me up the wall because

0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:13.080
<v Speaker 1>he's clearly a really good player, he's all Pro and

0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:16.520
<v Speaker 1>going to the super Bowl. It's exciting to think that

0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:19.600
<v Speaker 1>they can be changing that attitude. You know, maybe this

0:26:19.640 --> 0:26:22.440
<v Speaker 1>will be a multiple defense. Maybe we'll see some three

0:26:22.520 --> 0:26:25.760
<v Speaker 1>four looks. We'll see some four three looks, four two five.

0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:28.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, Belichick's up in New England running like a

0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:31.119
<v Speaker 1>two three seven or whatever the hell alignment that was

0:26:31.200 --> 0:26:33.159
<v Speaker 1>this year. It's exciting to think that they could do

0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:35.400
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of all of that. And so we're

0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:37.680
<v Speaker 1>going to figure it out as the draft process goes.

0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:41.000
<v Speaker 1>But like right now, I don't know what they're looking for,

0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:43.160
<v Speaker 1>and that's like that. I feel like that is one

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:45.600
<v Speaker 1>of our biggest assignments from now until April is to

0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:48.439
<v Speaker 1>figure out what they have their eye on in this ye.

0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I think it'll be before that is when you'll really

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:53.680
<v Speaker 1>see kind of what they're looking for. You'll see a

0:26:53.800 --> 0:26:57.240
<v Speaker 1>mentality change. In March, I mean, when you could we

0:26:57.280 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 1>talked about twenty five twenty six free agents that they've got.

0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:01.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, a lot of those guys are on the

0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:03.880
<v Speaker 1>defensive line, so we're gonna find out kind of how

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:08.160
<v Speaker 1>they feel about these guys, Robert Quinn and Malite Collins.

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:11.359
<v Speaker 1>You know that, I guess there's there more. I guess

0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Michael Bennett is in that group. You know, where do

0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:17.439
<v Speaker 1>they put the value on some of those defensive linemen

0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:20.119
<v Speaker 1>and maybe a defensive lineman from other teams? You know

0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:23.080
<v Speaker 1>that That's the one thing that I think we kind

0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:27.760
<v Speaker 1>of overlook a lot is you know, Mike McCarthy as

0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:31.439
<v Speaker 1>opposed to other coaches that have come from you know,

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:33.919
<v Speaker 1>like let's say Joe Judge, who was working who was

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:37.120
<v Speaker 1>in you know, New England, and now he's with the Giants,

0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:41.040
<v Speaker 1>So you ask him about somebody from the Bears and

0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:42.960
<v Speaker 1>he's like, well, you know, we didn't play the Bears

0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:46.399
<v Speaker 1>or but like Mike McCarthy, supposedly they were looking at

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:49.480
<v Speaker 1>all teams last year. So from free agent standpoint, it's

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:52.359
<v Speaker 1>going to be interesting to see how well equipped he

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:54.720
<v Speaker 1>is to know what's out there in the landscape of

0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:58.400
<v Speaker 1>free agency, because supposedly he was watching not every game,

0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:01.200
<v Speaker 1>as he said, but it's a lot of games and

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:03.320
<v Speaker 1>he backtracked on that one a little bit out. Okay,

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 1>press conference of your life man, Yeah, exactly. And one

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:10.600
<v Speaker 1>of the guys you mentioned the defensive line needing some

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:12.800
<v Speaker 1>holes to fill. One of the guys that could potentially

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 1>fill those holes at defensive line, Javon Kinlaw, the defensive

0:28:16.520 --> 0:28:20.119
<v Speaker 1>tackle out of South Carolina, could be there at seventeen

0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:22.440
<v Speaker 1>for the Cowboys. He's at the Senior Bowl here. Immobile

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 1>got a chance to talk to him yesterday and he

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 1>said something pretty interesting about where he thinks he could

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:33.800
<v Speaker 1>be as compared to Aaron Donald. And Aaron Donald come

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:37.159
<v Speaker 1>to this week really dominating some little by himself at

0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 1>the top prospect the kind of player you think, I

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:45.480
<v Speaker 1>think I can be better? Honestly, that's just the expectations

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:47.120
<v Speaker 1>I have for myself and that's just how high I

0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 1>am on myself. So quite the confidence from mister Kinlaw

0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:55.200
<v Speaker 1>with the here at the Senior Bowl saying that I

0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 1>think I could be better than Aaron Donald. If the

0:28:58.000 --> 0:29:00.440
<v Speaker 1>NFL scouts think that too, he won't be at seventeen.

0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:02.440
<v Speaker 1>That's fair. So, I mean, if that's what if they

0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:07.480
<v Speaker 1>think Donald Donald fell to what thirteen? Something like ten?

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 1>He I mean, right, outside the top ten. It's crazy

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 1>to think that he I mean, he did not go

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 1>close to the top five by first round standards. Is

0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:18.760
<v Speaker 1>what is a kin Law's like height, weight and all

0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 1>that six six over three hundred Yeah, three out of

0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:24.640
<v Speaker 1>two I think is what he's passing the test. Aaron

0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Donald didn't do that, you know, like he was for

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:31.959
<v Speaker 1>sure he fell thirteen. He fell twelve spots because it

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:34.840
<v Speaker 1>was like he's too short, He's not gonna be killing

0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:38.680
<v Speaker 1>people like that. Yeah, which that is. It's an interesting

0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:42.719
<v Speaker 1>dichotomy because Donald was like the most decorated defensive player

0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:46.040
<v Speaker 1>in college football history, like he won in every award

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 1>you can win. Dominated at Pitt kin Law super I

0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:53.960
<v Speaker 1>mean freakishly talented guy. I mean, which actually I was

0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna say, you know, mediocre program, but so was pitt Yeah,

0:29:57.280 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 1>and it didn't matter. It's Donald whereas you know Ken

0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Law and half the freakish production. He does have the

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 1>freakish measurables. I think beauty's in the eye of the

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:08.000
<v Speaker 1>beholder there, because you see some tape where he absolutely

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:11.760
<v Speaker 1>just kills people. He's got some really crazy bend if

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:14.760
<v Speaker 1>you saw one on one pass Rustrials yesterday. But at

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 1>the same time, you're like, Okay, where's the consistency? So

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 1>it is interesting, Yeah, I mean, and I mean that's

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:21.560
<v Speaker 1>awesome that he thinks he can be better than Donald.

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Like every draft prospect I've ever talked to. Oh, I mean,

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:29.520
<v Speaker 1>if he's there at seventeen, I'm definitely interested. Okay, I

0:30:29.560 --> 0:30:31.920
<v Speaker 1>just think it's funny that Donald used the Senior Bowl

0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:34.480
<v Speaker 1>as a launching pad. So it's only Wednesday, you know,

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Ken Law's got two more days of practice to go.

0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:38.960
<v Speaker 1>We'll see what people are saying about him, because this

0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:40.840
<v Speaker 1>is really the only opportunity where you actually get to

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:43.080
<v Speaker 1>do football. He looked pretty good yesterday. I don't know

0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 1>if he looked as good as Aaron Donald did when

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 1>he came here, though. Aaron Donald was the thirteenth overall

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:50.000
<v Speaker 1>pick in twenty fourteen, and by that time, I mean,

0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:54.239
<v Speaker 1>that's Saint Louis Rams utterly insane. Yeah, unbelievable. I mean,

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:56.680
<v Speaker 1>and Nick's absolutely right, Like if he's six one instead

0:30:56.680 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 1>of like five to eleven, he's a top three pick.

0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, I remember that draft. There were three defensive

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 1>players the Cowboys really wanted and then and they all

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 1>went ahead of the Cowboys there they're sitting at a

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:13.280
<v Speaker 1>belief sixteeneen and Donald was one of them. Anthony Barr

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:16.840
<v Speaker 1>was another, Ryan Shazier. They all went off the board

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 1>like within five picks, and you know, we all kind

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:23.480
<v Speaker 1>of see that lining up in the draft like this too.

0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:25.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you got guys like Grant Delpit, you got

0:31:25.920 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 1>a guy like h like Javon Kinlaw. Maybe is Xavier McKinney. Sure,

0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 1>those are three guys the Cowboys could be honing in

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 1>on in terms of a draft pick defensively in that

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:39.120
<v Speaker 1>first round and sitting at seventeen, there's no there's no

0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:42.240
<v Speaker 1>nothing that says that they won't be gone by the

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:45.600
<v Speaker 1>time seventeen. Also point out the fact that Cowboys got

0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Zach Martin, yeah at sixteen, and had to fight off

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 1>Jerry not to take Johnny Manziel and they up you know,

0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Zach Wark, so he ended up ended up working out great. Yeah,

0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 1>I guess you would hate saying this about Zachon Martin.

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>We'd rather have Aaron Donald, yes, And that's I mean,

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 1>that's that's no disrespect towards Zack Martin to say it's

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 1>been incredible. You would rather have arguably the best defensive

0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 1>player in the NFL over the last decade. You have

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:13.719
<v Speaker 1>a great memory when it comes to draft. Who went

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:16.120
<v Speaker 1>with number one in that draft that would have been

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:20.840
<v Speaker 1>twenty fourteen. Was that Clowne's draft? Or was clown before that?

0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:23.400
<v Speaker 1>I think he was twenty thirteen, wouldn't he know? Uh?

0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Number one? Sorry? Ass Well, this is gonna drive me

0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:30.120
<v Speaker 1>derails it a little bit. My point is is I

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 1>don't even remember who went top five, but it's gonna

0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 1>be hard to say that Donald and Martin wouldn't be

0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:40.080
<v Speaker 1>in the top three or four picks there. It was

0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Jadavian Clowney, by the way, as the top pick. Don

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 1>David Hellman through a little bit, Okay, yeah, I mean, well,

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 1>oh it's a pretty loaded draft, but the top five

0:32:49.000 --> 0:32:50.960
<v Speaker 1>is not that great. Yeah, you got Clowney and then

0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:54.720
<v Speaker 1>Greg Robinson the offensive tackle for No. Or if he is,

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:58.240
<v Speaker 1>he's like I don't think believe hanging on Blake Mortal,

0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:00.760
<v Speaker 1>Sammy Watkins, he's still in the league course at four.

0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:03.320
<v Speaker 1>And then it goes Khalil Mack, Jake Matthews, Mike Evans.

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Not bad, pretty good. I mean those are three guys

0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 1>that have been to a Pro Bowl. Justin Gilbert was eighth,

0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:12.760
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Barr went nine, Eric Ebron tenth, Odell Beckham went

0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 1>twelfth to the Giants, one pick before Aaron Donald. This,

0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that was a really great draft, but I'm no.

0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:19.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, to Nick's point, if you're looking at this,

0:33:19.520 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 1>you're saying you're redoing it. Khalil Mack, Mike Evans Um.

0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:27.200
<v Speaker 1>I think if you Aaron Donald and Zach did that draft,

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 1>you would probably take Zack Martin. We got a pretty

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 1>good pass rusher draft two, because that was the same

0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:35.920
<v Speaker 1>draft that Cowboys went and selected DeMarcus Lawrence in the

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:38.000
<v Speaker 1>second round at thirty four. Yeah, so you got a

0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:40.440
<v Speaker 1>good pass pass rusher with there, and you got in

0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 1>your first two picks, you got Zack Martin and d

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Loss And where are the Cowboys picking right around the

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:49.400
<v Speaker 1>same spot. It sounds dumb to say, but I mean

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 1>this is as high as they've picked in recent memory,

0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:56.000
<v Speaker 1>because thanks to all these good draft picks, they've been

0:33:56.560 --> 0:33:58.840
<v Speaker 1>finishing with winning records like those are their worst record

0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:02.600
<v Speaker 1>since twenty sixteen, and they got Martin after a mediocre

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:06.240
<v Speaker 1>season in twenty thirteen. So I'm really excited about who's

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:07.960
<v Speaker 1>going to be there for them at seventeen. But what

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:11.240
<v Speaker 1>I like about that pick in certain positions are that way,

0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:15.000
<v Speaker 1>is that if you say sixteen seventeenth pick. Uh, you know,

0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:17.520
<v Speaker 1>can you really get a good player if you get

0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:21.200
<v Speaker 1>valued um spots like a guard? Yeah, you know, if

0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:24.040
<v Speaker 1>you'd take a guard at sixteen or seventeen, you're gonna

0:34:24.040 --> 0:34:27.440
<v Speaker 1>get probably the best guard in the draft. Maybe it depends.

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:29.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know Quenton Nelson a few years ago

0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:33.320
<v Speaker 1>with five or six, and he's been awesome. But you'd

0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:35.520
<v Speaker 1>take a guard that high if you take a center.

0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:38.959
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying nicaboys need those spots, but tight in. Yeah,

0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 1>traditionally is that way. Now there's an exception to the rule,

0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:45.319
<v Speaker 1>I guess in Eric Ebron. But um, you know, he's

0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:48.120
<v Speaker 1>an interesting name too because he's he's going to be

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 1>a free agent, right is and I and I think

0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I think he's a guy that Jerry and and and

0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 1>you know Will and I think we'll see about McCarthy

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 1>if they like that kind of player. But that wouldn't

0:35:04.680 --> 0:35:07.719
<v Speaker 1>be surprising to me. We've got a guy in Blake Darwood. Yeah,

0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:10.200
<v Speaker 1>we like him, but he's a twenty six year old

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 1>free agent. He's go out and see what we can

0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:16.520
<v Speaker 1>do here that eighty million dollars of cash. They can't.

0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:18.680
<v Speaker 1>They can't fill all their needs in the draft, no,

0:35:18.840 --> 0:35:22.839
<v Speaker 1>they And it's almost it's it's refreshing, like it would

0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 1>be so easy to just turn this into like the

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:30.719
<v Speaker 1>dak and Amari watch for the rest of the year,

0:35:30.880 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, but like that that I'm just not even

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:35.520
<v Speaker 1>worried about that. Those guys are They're going to get

0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:37.799
<v Speaker 1>tagged if I had to guess, and those negotiations will

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:39.719
<v Speaker 1>play out on their own time. But I don't have

0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:41.319
<v Speaker 1>to sit here and wonder whether he's going to be

0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:43.319
<v Speaker 1>part of the team, right either one of them. And

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:45.680
<v Speaker 1>so that allows us to focus on what do you

0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:47.440
<v Speaker 1>do at tight end? What do you do at safety?

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:49.279
<v Speaker 1>What do you do at defensive tackle? What do you

0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:52.120
<v Speaker 1>do at cornerback? Can they afford to bring back Byron Jones?

0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:54.879
<v Speaker 1>Does this coaching staff even want to bring back Byron Jones?

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 1>Because I mean, you know, he was about to be

0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 1>an outcast until Christoph Shards showed up, and now Christoph

0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Shard's leaving again. And it's it's really fascinating, I wit,

0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's still basically it's too early in

0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:07.360
<v Speaker 1>the process for us to know. But over the coming weeks,

0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:09.640
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna start to get answers to some of these questions.

0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 1>And I did ask Stephen. Of course he didn't answer.

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 1>He walked off. He was like one dac to Amari.

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:18.319
<v Speaker 1>And then of course I'm like number three, not ready

0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 1>to say it was number three. We don't know. He's like,

0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:23.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going that far. But that's, you know, that's

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:26.560
<v Speaker 1>what we do. We I mean, we think it's Byron

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:29.759
<v Speaker 1>Jones or MALIEK. Collins, and you never know, they might

0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 1>look at it be Robert Quinn. Yeah, you never know.

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:34.560
<v Speaker 1>But Michael Bennett. They have to address some of these

0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:36.600
<v Speaker 1>concerns and free agency, and that's the point. I mean,

0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:38.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, you do what you can in free agency,

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:40.279
<v Speaker 1>which opens you up in the draft. That's, you know,

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:42.520
<v Speaker 1>that is the goal every single year. They haven't always

0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 1>done as good a job of it as other years,

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 1>but it's interesting to think the way they could shape

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:51.560
<v Speaker 1>this and how that will affect their decisions in the draft.

0:36:51.680 --> 0:36:54.840
<v Speaker 1>And we'll talk more about that draft tomorrow eleven o'clock

0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:57.040
<v Speaker 1>right back here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and on

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<v Speaker 1>the Draft Show. Yeah, you got it back here, David,

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<v Speaker 1>I will be back tomorrow at eleven o'clock. We'll switch

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<v Speaker 1>out Nick even for Bucky Brooks ye here at the

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0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 1>because I would give give it way too much information.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll be back one more segment on the way

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<v Speaker 1>Com and Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio and Guys Pro Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always been a fun time to kind of experiment

0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:53.000
<v Speaker 1>with new NFL rule changes. They're gonna do it again

0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:57.080
<v Speaker 1>this year, like no tackling, yeah, and no no effort.

0:39:57.400 --> 0:39:59.440
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna say you said you like you said. It's

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<v Speaker 1>always a fun time and it's definitely not They have

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:09.080
<v Speaker 1>fun up there sometimes. But they're gonna insert what could

0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:12.520
<v Speaker 1>be a new rule for on site kicks, and I

0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:16.960
<v Speaker 1>found that's extremely interesting. So basically the rule is the

0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:20.200
<v Speaker 1>team that just scored, instead of having an onsite kick

0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:22.680
<v Speaker 1>or kicking off to their opponent, they would get the

0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:25.680
<v Speaker 1>ball at their own twenty five yard line that's where

0:40:25.680 --> 0:40:29.240
<v Speaker 1>they would start. They'd give ultimately a fourth and fifteen,

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:31.920
<v Speaker 1>the scoring team has to gain fifteen or more yards,

0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:36.319
<v Speaker 1>it would retain possession and continue that drive. However, if

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:40.720
<v Speaker 1>in that one play they did not convert the fifteen yards,

0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:43.520
<v Speaker 1>the opposing team would get the ball back where that

0:40:43.560 --> 0:40:46.160
<v Speaker 1>ball was spotted at the end of the play. So

0:40:46.320 --> 0:40:47.960
<v Speaker 1>if you gained ten yards, you would get it at

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:51.200
<v Speaker 1>the opposing team would get it in an enemy territory

0:40:51.280 --> 0:40:52.880
<v Speaker 1>at the thirty five yard line. If it was an

0:40:52.880 --> 0:40:54.600
<v Speaker 1>incomplete passed then you're all the way back at the

0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:57.879
<v Speaker 1>twenty five. And with a play like that, you think

0:40:57.920 --> 0:40:59.960
<v Speaker 1>about it, it's if with it being fourth and fifteen,

0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:02.640
<v Speaker 1>it's mostly a passing down, that's going to be a

0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:06.600
<v Speaker 1>passing situation. So my question is to you, what do

0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:08.879
<v Speaker 1>you think about this? It's kind of intriguing to think

0:41:08.880 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 1>about just the fact of having a different way to

0:41:12.280 --> 0:41:15.960
<v Speaker 1>retain possession late in games. I like the spirit of

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:19.319
<v Speaker 1>it because I think that's that's what's going to take

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:22.560
<v Speaker 1>to work around the way the game is changing, is

0:41:22.600 --> 0:41:26.160
<v Speaker 1>like innovation and new ideas, because I mean, honestly, what's

0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:28.120
<v Speaker 1>the point of an onside kick right now? Anyway, Like

0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:30.360
<v Speaker 1>I think I think two were recovered in the NFL

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:32.360
<v Speaker 1>this season, or I mean it was. It was certainly

0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:35.000
<v Speaker 1>less than five out of however many dozen were attempted

0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:38.560
<v Speaker 1>or even one hundred, Like the success rate was nothing.

0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:42.440
<v Speaker 1>And so it's a pointless play which takes the excitement

0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:45.080
<v Speaker 1>out of the game because it it basically kills the

0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:47.880
<v Speaker 1>ability for somebody to come back by down multiple scores.

0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:50.120
<v Speaker 1>So if this is a way you can reintroduce that

0:41:50.200 --> 0:41:52.919
<v Speaker 1>and have teams have more hope of doing it, I'm

0:41:52.960 --> 0:41:56.759
<v Speaker 1>all for it. Going through it off the cuff like

0:41:58.080 --> 0:41:59.880
<v Speaker 1>it does suck that that kind of removes some of

0:41:59.920 --> 0:42:02.200
<v Speaker 1>the surprise element. Like a cool thing about an onside

0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:04.520
<v Speaker 1>kick is you can never completely predict when it's going

0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:07.400
<v Speaker 1>to happen, and this obviously is a situation where the

0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:10.000
<v Speaker 1>defense will be ready for the play. But again, if

0:42:10.080 --> 0:42:13.520
<v Speaker 1>it can inject some drama into late game scenarios, I'm

0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:15.920
<v Speaker 1>all for it. I thought the same thing, but I

0:42:15.960 --> 0:42:19.360
<v Speaker 1>think you still have your surprise on sidekicks during the game.

0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:22.880
<v Speaker 1>I think in this case, you know you're only gonna

0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:25.600
<v Speaker 1>do it, You're only gonna give an opportunity for to

0:42:26.320 --> 0:42:28.840
<v Speaker 1>to be on defense on the twenty five yard line. Me,

0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:30.400
<v Speaker 1>you're only going to do that if you just have

0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:32.480
<v Speaker 1>to late in the game, you know, I mean, it's

0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:34.080
<v Speaker 1>just late in the game when everyone knows you're gonna

0:42:34.120 --> 0:42:37.400
<v Speaker 1>onside kick. Anyways. Well, well, to counteract that point, what

0:42:37.440 --> 0:42:39.880
<v Speaker 1>about the teams that look at it analytically or maybe

0:42:39.880 --> 0:42:41.840
<v Speaker 1>have a strong passing game in terms of Hey, I

0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:44.600
<v Speaker 1>have Pat Mahomes or Aaron Rodgers in the backfield, good,

0:42:44.960 --> 0:42:49.320
<v Speaker 1>let's throw it. Let's go. I had the thirty second

0:42:49.400 --> 0:42:51.400
<v Speaker 1>ranked defense and I was going up against the number

0:42:51.560 --> 0:42:53.640
<v Speaker 1>I'd say number one offense, but that would be DAC.

0:42:53.800 --> 0:42:55.719
<v Speaker 1>But we know what we're talking about. We know what

0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:57.600
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about. Hey, you know, I'm just saying if

0:42:57.640 --> 0:42:59.520
<v Speaker 1>I had the worst defense in the league and I

0:42:59.560 --> 0:43:01.799
<v Speaker 1>was playing the best quarterback of the best passing game

0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:03.880
<v Speaker 1>in the league, I'd take my chances on fourth and

0:43:03.920 --> 0:43:07.600
<v Speaker 1>fifteen that the analytics say that that you're not gonna

0:43:07.640 --> 0:43:10.080
<v Speaker 1>get that. That's why that's why it's put it. Put

0:43:10.120 --> 0:43:13.200
<v Speaker 1>it there. I don't like the twenty five yard line, Okay,

0:43:13.360 --> 0:43:15.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't. That's just me. I I don't like the

0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:17.560
<v Speaker 1>fact that you're already in field goal range because if

0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:19.319
<v Speaker 1>you do an on site kick and they recover it.

0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:22.239
<v Speaker 1>They recovered at the forty yard line. Forty five yard line,

0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:24.759
<v Speaker 1>you're not you're not in field goal range. You're not.

0:43:25.000 --> 0:43:26.640
<v Speaker 1>You still have a little bit of work. It's great

0:43:26.680 --> 0:43:30.239
<v Speaker 1>field position. But I don't like the twenty five. I've

0:43:30.280 --> 0:43:33.120
<v Speaker 1>seen it. Who else was doing this? Was it the AF?

0:43:34.280 --> 0:43:37.120
<v Speaker 1>It's something similar to that twenty eight yard line I

0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:39.359
<v Speaker 1>have seen on the twenty eight that's still down there

0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:42.080
<v Speaker 1>pretty I'm about the thirty five. Well, I know the

0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Broncos tried to get something similar to this past last

0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:48.120
<v Speaker 1>year or maybe two years ago, and they got shot

0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:50.759
<v Speaker 1>down pretty quickly. I like the thirty five yard line,

0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:53.520
<v Speaker 1>and it could be a fourth and twelve. You know,

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:56.080
<v Speaker 1>you get it. You're at midfield. I mean, you're you're

0:43:56.239 --> 0:43:59.239
<v Speaker 1>you're cooking at that point. The irony is that So

0:43:59.239 --> 0:44:01.520
<v Speaker 1>they're doing this in the Pro Bowl? Yep, I mean

0:44:02.280 --> 0:44:05.880
<v Speaker 1>talk about not a representative Like that's what does the

0:44:05.920 --> 0:44:08.440
<v Speaker 1>atmosphere like? They don't they're not gonna play defense anyway.

0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Picking up fourth and fifteen should be easy at the

0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:14.080
<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowl. And also what's the you know, what's the recourse? Oh,

0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:17.000
<v Speaker 1>we don't have it, like oh, we didn't get it, like, okay, Well,

0:44:17.040 --> 0:44:18.960
<v Speaker 1>it just gives people a chance to see how it was.

0:44:19.520 --> 0:44:22.120
<v Speaker 1>I like it, but it's not gonna Well, maybe it

0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:24.200
<v Speaker 1>gives people like us a chance to just have this

0:44:24.280 --> 0:44:26.600
<v Speaker 1>conversation and to kind of work through what could and

0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:29.280
<v Speaker 1>could not be problems. I love the idea of finding

0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:32.000
<v Speaker 1>ways around and look like, I get it you. I mean,

0:44:32.120 --> 0:44:33.839
<v Speaker 1>you need to make the game safer. We know too

0:44:33.960 --> 0:44:36.239
<v Speaker 1>much about it to keep doing things the old way.

0:44:36.400 --> 0:44:40.040
<v Speaker 1>But again, it kind of kills some of the drama

0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:42.399
<v Speaker 1>of it. Kills some of the drama of the game

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:44.799
<v Speaker 1>when you know, you know that nobody feels on side

0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:47.920
<v Speaker 1>kicks anymore, like it just doesn't happen well on side kicks.

0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:51.200
<v Speaker 1>That we're at a historic rate of about twenty one

0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:54.680
<v Speaker 1>percent through twenty seventeen. It went down in twenty eighteen

0:44:54.800 --> 0:44:57.480
<v Speaker 1>to seven percent, and then it went back a little

0:44:57.480 --> 0:45:03.280
<v Speaker 1>bit up in twenty nineteen thirt that's honestly, that's actually

0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:07.400
<v Speaker 1>not that's not converting it though. That's just how many

0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:10.239
<v Speaker 1>ed Okay, that's how many attempts they had. You know,

0:45:10.239 --> 0:45:12.839
<v Speaker 1>there there you go. I would rather see tweaks to that,

0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:18.360
<v Speaker 1>to that rule, to those and I know the safety

0:45:18.440 --> 0:45:20.319
<v Speaker 1>is a big part of it here too, and I

0:45:20.360 --> 0:45:23.160
<v Speaker 1>don't like you know, there's a lot of purists out

0:45:23.160 --> 0:45:25.279
<v Speaker 1>there that are like, I don't why do you got

0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:26.719
<v Speaker 1>to change it and all that. But if that was

0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:30.400
<v Speaker 1>the case way back when somebody was said, you know

0:45:30.600 --> 0:45:32.600
<v Speaker 1>what if we just put helmets on these guys, and

0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:34.680
<v Speaker 1>they're like, no, we can't do that, you know, well,

0:45:34.760 --> 0:45:36.640
<v Speaker 1>let's put helmets and then let's put face mask and

0:45:36.680 --> 0:45:38.560
<v Speaker 1>then you know, and here we are. So you gotta keep,

0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:41.080
<v Speaker 1>like Dave said, you gotta keep evolving. I get that,

0:45:41.160 --> 0:45:44.160
<v Speaker 1>but you know, I'm I don't like the kickoff rule

0:45:44.200 --> 0:45:46.319
<v Speaker 1>as it is. I hate seeing a guy stand back

0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:47.839
<v Speaker 1>there with his hands of that. I want to see

0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:49.440
<v Speaker 1>the kickoff return. I think it's one of the most

0:45:49.440 --> 0:45:51.360
<v Speaker 1>exciting plays in the game. Then again, I've never been

0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:53.080
<v Speaker 1>hurt doing it, so well, what do you think about

0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:56.200
<v Speaker 1>the The XFL is going with a new kickoff rule

0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:59.279
<v Speaker 1>where you start within ten yards of each other and

0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:02.040
<v Speaker 1>it's basically a hunt. So you have a pun er

0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:04.840
<v Speaker 1>back however many yards I don't know exactly what it is.

0:46:05.160 --> 0:46:07.040
<v Speaker 1>You have a returner back and then you have ten

0:46:07.080 --> 0:46:09.200
<v Speaker 1>guys up on the line, of scrimmage. They're ten yards

0:46:09.239 --> 0:46:11.960
<v Speaker 1>away from each other and basically as soon as the

0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:14.239
<v Speaker 1>ball is kicked, they collide and they go for it,

0:46:14.280 --> 0:46:16.080
<v Speaker 1>and it's supposed to be safer because it's only ten

0:46:16.120 --> 0:46:18.799
<v Speaker 1>yards away, and then you get the return and you

0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:22.239
<v Speaker 1>still have strategic rugby a little bit. It's just like,

0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:24.760
<v Speaker 1>yeah that, I mean, I don't know a lot about

0:46:24.840 --> 0:46:27.480
<v Speaker 1>rugby or Australian rules football, but like that's what it

0:46:27.520 --> 0:46:30.080
<v Speaker 1>sounds like. But I mean, it's after the catch, not

0:46:30.200 --> 0:46:32.560
<v Speaker 1>after the kick. I mean, I agree with Nick that

0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:35.000
<v Speaker 1>the kickoff is one of the coolest players in football,

0:46:35.040 --> 0:46:37.799
<v Speaker 1>but it's almost pointless these days, and like there's a

0:46:37.800 --> 0:46:39.680
<v Speaker 1>few teams that know how to take advantage of it.

0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:43.239
<v Speaker 1>But I would rather see innovations to keep these things

0:46:43.239 --> 0:46:47.480
<v Speaker 1>in the game than just keep kicking ninety eight percent

0:46:47.520 --> 0:46:49.319
<v Speaker 1>of kickoffs through the back of the end zone or

0:46:49.400 --> 0:46:52.560
<v Speaker 1>just putting the ball down and saying gain fifteen yards? Yeah,

0:46:52.680 --> 0:46:54.319
<v Speaker 1>or do you like that or do you think that's fun?

0:46:54.760 --> 0:46:57.360
<v Speaker 1>I think I think it would be fun if team, Like,

0:46:57.440 --> 0:47:01.120
<v Speaker 1>if teams thought they had a realistic shot to get

0:47:01.120 --> 0:47:03.360
<v Speaker 1>the ball back. I mean, you know, and picking up

0:47:03.400 --> 0:47:06.000
<v Speaker 1>fifteen yards is hard, man. I would love to see

0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:08.200
<v Speaker 1>that playout. I mean, picking up fifteen yards against an

0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:11.239
<v Speaker 1>NFL defense that knows you have to pass. Yeah, that's

0:47:11.239 --> 0:47:13.439
<v Speaker 1>easier said than that. It's the question that we talked

0:47:13.480 --> 0:47:16.640
<v Speaker 1>about before the show. That okay, So let's say that's

0:47:16.680 --> 0:47:21.240
<v Speaker 1>the rule. It does illegal contact a five yard penalty.

0:47:21.840 --> 0:47:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Would that give you a first automatic first down? No way,

0:47:25.280 --> 0:47:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Like in that situation, you've got you have to get

0:47:27.920 --> 0:47:30.160
<v Speaker 1>the fifteen. I would think you've got to have a penalty.

0:47:30.320 --> 0:47:32.480
<v Speaker 1>It's a face mask or a PI or something that

0:47:32.560 --> 0:47:36.080
<v Speaker 1>gives you fifteen, that's fine, But nothing short of that

0:47:36.400 --> 0:47:39.080
<v Speaker 1>should should? You know? Oh my god. I mean I'm

0:47:39.120 --> 0:47:42.600
<v Speaker 1>just imagining Pat Mahomes like lining up and just chunking

0:47:42.640 --> 0:47:46.480
<v Speaker 1>like a go ball to Tyree Hill on fourth and fifteen,

0:47:46.520 --> 0:47:48.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, but like they're just going for the end

0:47:48.160 --> 0:47:51.279
<v Speaker 1>zone and stop us. I mean, we're gonna complete it

0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:53.160
<v Speaker 1>or you have to tackle us and we get the DPI.

0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's all sorts of stuff you can do.

0:47:54.960 --> 0:47:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Rod marin all these defense they always would call it

0:47:57.600 --> 0:48:00.360
<v Speaker 1>with money forty four money forty four, which all the

0:48:00.400 --> 0:48:02.600
<v Speaker 1>defense was lined back, and I mean that you'd have

0:48:02.640 --> 0:48:06.560
<v Speaker 1>guys to standing at the first down marker. So that's

0:48:06.560 --> 0:48:09.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna that would be very challenging as well. I mean, yeah,

0:48:10.239 --> 0:48:14.279
<v Speaker 1>but probably easier to get than you're, you know, than

0:48:14.280 --> 0:48:16.040
<v Speaker 1>you're on side kick the way it is right now,

0:48:16.120 --> 0:48:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I like the idea, and I don't know it might

0:48:18.760 --> 0:48:20.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm still not gonna watch the Pro Bowl, but I'll

0:48:20.760 --> 0:48:23.359
<v Speaker 1>be curious to see what happens. I'll probably go look

0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:25.799
<v Speaker 1>for the results on Twitter. Yeah, you know. They're also

0:48:25.840 --> 0:48:29.399
<v Speaker 1>playing around with a potential new rule in terms of

0:48:29.520 --> 0:48:32.560
<v Speaker 1>false starts, in a new way to to kind of

0:48:32.600 --> 0:48:35.120
<v Speaker 1>back off on false starts a little bit. In terms

0:48:35.160 --> 0:48:37.279
<v Speaker 1>of the flags being thrown. They're trying to loosen up

0:48:37.320 --> 0:48:39.520
<v Speaker 1>the rule. They are already loosen up. Like I swear

0:48:39.600 --> 0:48:42.279
<v Speaker 1>to God, he is the case. What's what are they?

0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:46.000
<v Speaker 1>What's more, it's tough to say. So it's it is

0:48:46.000 --> 0:48:49.200
<v Speaker 1>a false start if a flexed eligible receiver in a

0:48:49.239 --> 0:48:52.280
<v Speaker 1>two point stance who flinches or picks up one foot

0:48:52.360 --> 0:48:55.720
<v Speaker 1>as long as his other foot remains partially on the ground,

0:48:56.160 --> 0:48:59.520
<v Speaker 1>and he resets one second prior to the snap. Chris Beam,

0:48:59.680 --> 0:49:01.440
<v Speaker 1>you have you have some of this, So it's kind

0:49:01.440 --> 0:49:06.239
<v Speaker 1>of he's our producer here. It's an illegal shift it's

0:49:06.239 --> 0:49:10.000
<v Speaker 1>all illegal shift thing. It's not necessarily false starts, it's

0:49:10.040 --> 0:49:15.480
<v Speaker 1>an illegal shift. Okay, okay, I love that. I'm gonna say,

0:49:15.560 --> 0:49:18.680
<v Speaker 1>does anybody else feel like I saw a more offensive

0:49:18.719 --> 0:49:21.279
<v Speaker 1>lineman get away with jumping early this season than I

0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:23.360
<v Speaker 1>can remember in the rest of my life. Well, I

0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:25.560
<v Speaker 1>think what's weird too is that you know, they're always

0:49:25.560 --> 0:49:27.920
<v Speaker 1>making calls and stuff in the guard in the center,

0:49:28.320 --> 0:49:30.160
<v Speaker 1>they got their hand up and they turn and look

0:49:30.239 --> 0:49:31.880
<v Speaker 1>back here and then but all of a sudden, if

0:49:31.880 --> 0:49:34.120
<v Speaker 1>you just kind of flinch barely, like that's a penalty.

0:49:34.280 --> 0:49:37.200
<v Speaker 1>That's what everything else. Yeah, I have I have a

0:49:37.200 --> 0:49:40.000
<v Speaker 1>whole problem with with with the way that works because

0:49:40.520 --> 0:49:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I hate the fact that the defensive lineman, I mean,

0:49:44.360 --> 0:49:47.200
<v Speaker 1>they're getting hard counted, which is fine, you can do that, right,

0:49:47.360 --> 0:49:49.719
<v Speaker 1>the guy can change his cadence. But then if you

0:49:49.800 --> 0:49:52.160
<v Speaker 1>jump off sides, I mean you jump just for a

0:49:52.160 --> 0:49:54.520
<v Speaker 1>second and then try to go back, the offensive lineman

0:49:54.600 --> 0:49:57.000
<v Speaker 1>can can pop up and say and now you're you know,

0:49:57.040 --> 0:49:59.920
<v Speaker 1>now it's a penalty. So I don't know all these

0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:03.239
<v Speaker 1>rules or for the offense, yeah, and saying we're the

0:50:03.239 --> 0:50:05.800
<v Speaker 1>fourth and fifteen. There was twenty five times in the

0:50:05.880 --> 0:50:08.520
<v Speaker 1>league this year that it was fourth or fifteen and

0:50:08.640 --> 0:50:11.560
<v Speaker 1>greater it only they only converted six times, so it's

0:50:11.600 --> 0:50:14.120
<v Speaker 1>twenty four percent of the time. Wow, that's still higher

0:50:14.120 --> 0:50:17.600
<v Speaker 1>than offida. That's just like, that's more than I would

0:50:17.600 --> 0:50:20.239
<v Speaker 1>have thought and more than an onside kick. So if

0:50:20.239 --> 0:50:22.320
<v Speaker 1>it's going to make the end of games more entertaining,

0:50:22.320 --> 0:50:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm all full. Fifteen times in the whole league last

0:50:24.600 --> 0:50:27.440
<v Speaker 1>year there was a fourth and fifteen twenty five twenty times,

0:50:27.960 --> 0:50:30.759
<v Speaker 1>and six of twenty five is twenty four percent of

0:50:30.800 --> 0:50:33.400
<v Speaker 1>the time. And that makes sense because I feel like

0:50:33.440 --> 0:50:36.360
<v Speaker 1>that stat would have to be specifically for fourth and fifteen.

0:50:36.440 --> 0:50:38.560
<v Speaker 1>It can't be fourth in sixteen or fourteen because of

0:50:39.040 --> 0:50:41.120
<v Speaker 1>the rule and probably what's being written. It had to

0:50:41.160 --> 0:50:44.600
<v Speaker 1>be exactly fourth and fifteen most likely for that to happen,

0:50:44.600 --> 0:50:47.680
<v Speaker 1>which is twenty five times is kind of a lot. Well,

0:50:47.719 --> 0:50:51.040
<v Speaker 1>And and that's a little bit. That's that's you know,

0:50:51.440 --> 0:50:54.040
<v Speaker 1>it's a little scowed just because it could be fourth

0:50:54.080 --> 0:50:57.320
<v Speaker 1>and fifteen from the twenty yard line going in. That's

0:50:57.360 --> 0:50:59.359
<v Speaker 1>that's definitely hard to get. You don't have last space

0:50:59.360 --> 0:51:01.920
<v Speaker 1>fourth and fifteen from your own twenty five with Tyreek

0:51:01.960 --> 0:51:04.359
<v Speaker 1>Hill or somebody that can just you know, that's part

0:51:04.400 --> 0:51:07.080
<v Speaker 1>of the play. He can go deep, So that's that'll

0:51:07.120 --> 0:51:10.560
<v Speaker 1>be interesting. I mean, I don't you know. My first

0:51:10.560 --> 0:51:12.120
<v Speaker 1>thought is that I don't know if I like that,

0:51:12.239 --> 0:51:15.560
<v Speaker 1>but you know, it'll it'll be interesting to see really quick.

0:51:15.640 --> 0:51:17.399
<v Speaker 1>Because Dave brought up the point of the Pro Bowl

0:51:17.440 --> 0:51:19.239
<v Speaker 1>maybe not being the best place to test it. Would

0:51:19.239 --> 0:51:22.080
<v Speaker 1>you be okay seeing it in a preseason game? Yes, yeah,

0:51:22.160 --> 0:51:25.600
<v Speaker 1>let's go. I think saddle up again. And it's I mean,

0:51:26.480 --> 0:51:29.279
<v Speaker 1>everybody's excited for the preseason when it gets here because

0:51:29.320 --> 0:51:31.160
<v Speaker 1>it's been so long since we've seen football, but like

0:51:31.200 --> 0:51:34.759
<v Speaker 1>by week two you're over it. So again three week four.

0:51:35.840 --> 0:51:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Give me a reason to be more intrigued by these

0:51:38.040 --> 0:51:40.520
<v Speaker 1>preseason games, Like, give me a reason for them to

0:51:40.719 --> 0:51:42.960
<v Speaker 1>like try all that stuff out. And unless that that

0:51:43.160 --> 0:51:45.719
<v Speaker 1>going for two or I mean that that on site

0:51:45.800 --> 0:51:48.160
<v Speaker 1>kick is gonna maybe lead to an overtime game, then no,

0:51:48.280 --> 0:51:51.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm not cool with that. Yeah, no overtime. And if

0:51:51.520 --> 0:51:54.080
<v Speaker 1>if it you're like down by seven and I'm like

0:51:54.120 --> 0:51:56.120
<v Speaker 1>just kick off, like you don't, like, why do you

0:51:56.280 --> 0:51:58.319
<v Speaker 1>get it done? Let's get it out of here? Well,

0:51:58.320 --> 0:52:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Well you're gonna get out of here as well. That's

0:52:00.239 --> 0:52:03.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna do it here for the break. Dave and Nick

0:52:03.200 --> 0:52:05.560
<v Speaker 1>will be back next week with Derek at MBAR back

0:52:05.560 --> 0:52:08.799
<v Speaker 1>at the SWBC Mortgage Studios in Frisco. It's been fun

0:52:08.840 --> 0:52:10.880
<v Speaker 1>filling in with you guys, and of course you can

0:52:10.920 --> 0:52:14.680
<v Speaker 1>catch David and myself on the Draft Show tomorrow eleven o'clock.

0:52:14.880 --> 0:52:17.440
<v Speaker 1>We'll be here with Bucky Brooks and that'll be a

0:52:17.480 --> 0:52:19.080
<v Speaker 1>whole lot of fun. Wrapping up Day two of the

0:52:19.160 --> 0:52:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Senior Bowl and then looking ahead today three, the final

0:52:21.880 --> 0:52:24.000
<v Speaker 1>day that we'll be here for the recent Senior Bowl

0:52:24.040 --> 0:52:26.640
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty. So for Dave Hellman, nicky Man, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Yeoman's saying so long for Mobile Alabama. This is

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