1 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 3 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: a Break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 5 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 6 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: Were on the Break Today is Wednesday, January twenty second, twenty, 7 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: season fifteen, Episode one twelve of The Break, Live from Mobile, 8 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: Alabama and the Reese's Senior Bowl. David Hellman, Nick Eatman, 9 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yeoman's billing in for Derek Eagle. To much 10 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: did Derek pay you to like know that episode? Zbro 11 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: and all that stuff? I don't know, Zbro. I went 12 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: back and listen to it. Now, the thing is, what'd 13 00:00:58,360 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: you find when he went back and listen to it. 14 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: This isn't the first time it's been correct all year. 15 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: He hasn't switched it to twenty twenty. Yeah, Well, he 16 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: go the first two, he goes by a completely, he 17 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: go by season, he goes by the start of the 18 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: league year. It's his own thing. Did not mean to 19 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: have a five minute discussion about Derek's show. See, I 20 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: just thought it was interesting that he said that he 21 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: keeps saying twenty nineteen and we've never caught it. It 22 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: means we're not paying attention. It's okay, okay. I went 23 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: back and listened to it to pick it up, just 24 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: to kind of like bring it up for you to 25 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: listen to. So I'm all over the place, but we 26 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: are live from Mobile, Alabama, the Reese's Senior Bowl all 27 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: the week long here on Dallas Cowboys dot com. This 28 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: is not the Draft Show. Despite the background, Cowboys break 29 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: being represented by these two from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 30 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: But guys, a fun week already. Day one in the books, 31 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: Day two coming up today. We'll be heading out to 32 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: practices here in just a little bit. But really, after 33 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: day one of the Senior Bowl, there were a lot 34 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: of storylines Cowboys wise. Stephen Jones talked to the media 35 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: and then you guys really got a chance to dive 36 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: in and look at some of these guys that the 37 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: Cowboys could potentially be looking for come Draft day in April. Yeah, 38 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: this is the time of year where you're kind of 39 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: still talking about last year, but not as much, you 40 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: know now, because you got a coaching change. All eyes 41 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: are forward, but you know this is you can look 42 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: at the players on the field, and you know or 43 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: do you need do you need some of these guys? 44 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: Are they gonna come in? Are they gonna fit in 45 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: this team? And then of course you got one eye 46 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: on the field. He got also like where Steven worst Jerry? 47 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: You know, that's kind of why another reason why we're here. 48 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: So the Senior Bowl always has like multiple purposes that 49 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: you're trying to figure out here some cowboys, some future cowboys. 50 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: Maybe yeah it uh. I think it speaks to what's 51 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: going on with the Cowboys right now that this is 52 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: as small of a contingent as I can ever remember 53 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 1: coming to the Senior Bowl for the team we sent everybody. Yeah, 54 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: that's because that's what we do. But I mean, Jerry 55 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: Jones was barely in Mobile. I think he had to 56 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: go to an award ceremony in Houston last night. Mike 57 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: McCarthy and his coaching staff stayed back. So this is 58 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: really this is Stephen Jones and the scouting department. Like 59 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: I said, I don't want to call it bare bones 60 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: because the whole scouting department is here, But I think 61 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: it speaks to the focus that Mike McCarthy's got on 62 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: what they need to get going at the Star, getting 63 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: his program in place, and as a draft nerd, I 64 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: kind of dig that, like the focus is so on 65 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: the draft here at the Senior Bowl, which is obviously 66 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,399 Speaker 1: the point, but to Nick's point, there's usually so many 67 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: other things going on here, but it really seems like 68 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are focused on the draft. We've we've done 69 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: these in the past where Jerry tucks for thirty forty 70 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: minutes and then Steven will talk for thirty minutes and 71 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: Will McClay maybe, and you know, it was nine and 72 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: a half minutes yesterday with Stephen Jones. Now, some of 73 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: that could have been the fact that it was really cold, 74 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: Like I don't care what the phone says of how 75 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: cold it was. It says forty two degrees or whatever 76 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: it was. It was worse than that. And I was 77 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: only down there for ten minutes. All these guys that 78 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: are in here that are behind the scenes working on 79 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: this stuff, they were bundled up and it was like 80 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: arctic freeze down there. A Scott Purcell was in a 81 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: ski jacket the whole time and having fun with that. 82 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: But that's why Stephen Jones, after about five minutes, it 83 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: was like anything else, guys, No, we're not can do 84 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: this in Dallas, can't we? But there wasn't a lot 85 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: that kind of came out of yesterday. We can. We 86 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: can get into some of it, obviously we will, but 87 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: but you know, there wasn't this hard pressing like, oh 88 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: my god, I can't believe that, you know, sure, Jason 89 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: Witten still still not talking about Jason Witten. Happy for 90 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett. I mean things that you know, you kind 91 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: of expected. It's kind of going back to the coaching 92 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: staff before we get into Stephen. We'll hear that some 93 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: of the quotes from Steven here in just a moment. 94 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: But with Mike McCarthy in his move here from Green 95 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: Bay originally where he didn't necessarily have a whole lot 96 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: of say come draft process wise, does that speak to 97 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: him trusting the scouting staff so early on in his 98 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: tenure by sticking back and not being in Mobile or 99 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: is this just kind of changing of the guard in 100 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: terms of the coaching staff and what he has to 101 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 1: do back in Frisco. I think it's a little bit 102 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: of both. Actually, yeah, I do think that. You know, 103 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,679 Speaker 1: with the Senior Bowl, it was like, all right, guys, 104 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: go out there, Let's find some good players. Tell me, 105 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: tell me the guys we need to be looking at, 106 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: and then we get to the combine and maybe some 107 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: pro days we'll look at them. You know, we'll tell 108 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: you what we think and if maybe break some ties 109 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: or whatever. But they're still in that process, you know, 110 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: evaluate the guys, tell us who's out there, and then 111 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: we'll give you our input when it's time. That is 112 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: one of the most fascinating storylines for me for this 113 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: entire offseason is what that relationship is going to be like, 114 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: because I mean, if you watch the Draft show where 115 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: you follow the draft process, it's a tail as old 116 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: as time that it's such a collective process, and the 117 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: coaches had a large say in that. You know, Tristan Hill, 118 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: the coaches had a large say in getting him to Dallas. 119 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: The coaches were in love with Layton vanderash not to 120 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: dog on him too much. I mean, they made some 121 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: good decisions too, but they had a heavy hand in 122 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: that process. We are still trying to figure out just 123 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: how heavy Mike McCarthy's hand is going to be. You know, 124 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: It's one thing for him to say, you know, we 125 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: want good players, let's go find some good players, But 126 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: when it gets down to nutcutting time, are you are 127 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: they really going to sit back and not be part 128 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: of it? Because that hasn't been the way that it's 129 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: been with the Cowboys for the last decade. So, you know, 130 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: we try to talk to Stephen Jones about that yesterday. 131 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: I think it's still early in the process to really 132 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: have a firm handle on how that's going to work. 133 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: But I can't wait to see what that collective decision 134 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: making process is going to look like with the new 135 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: regime and with the new regime and everything that it 136 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: has to kind of be put in place for McCarthy 137 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: as a whole. What is it going to be like? 138 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,799 Speaker 1: And how much realistic film are these guys gonna watch 139 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: before the draft process is really getting a new crunch time, right, 140 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: That's that's what I'm saying. It's the biggest thing. And 141 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: like I said, they will like they're not just gonna 142 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: ignore the process like that would be criminal, you know, 143 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you want your coaches to be part of 144 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: selecting your draft class. But like I said, I mean 145 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: what Mike McCarthy has been hired for about three weeks 146 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: and his coaching staff has been in place for less 147 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: than that. So I don't think that they're ready to 148 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: hit the reck ground running on that as of yet. 149 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: That's you know, Mike didn't bring his staff here, which 150 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: I think is a great decision honestly, with all the 151 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: stuff they've got to get squared away. But you know, 152 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: February March, you know you're gonna bring it. You know 153 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: you're still bringing in official visitors. They get a bunch 154 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: of thirty of them to bring into the facility. Obviously 155 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: your coaching staff is gonna be part of that. So again, 156 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: really interested to see just how hands on or hands 157 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: off they are looking at what Stephen Jones also talked 158 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: about yesterday, talked a little bit about Jason Witten and 159 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: also just where the priority lies in terms of these 160 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: free agents and exactly what the Cowboys are going to 161 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: do in order to attack those free agents. Let's take 162 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: a listen, Reseach, Well, that's already it's been urgent for us. 163 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: We want to certainly get that done and that's our 164 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: number one priority as we go into the off season 165 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: as to get his contract hopefully, you know, find some 166 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: resolution to it and get that bunch. Do you have 167 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: any idea on idea on the future of their has 168 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: it been anything and he had discussions. Really nothing there 169 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: to comment on. We talked about last off season. A 170 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: lot of this time is taken the next step. Even 171 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: though you have all these free agents, you have a 172 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: new coaching staff, is that still the goal is absolutely 173 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: and uh no, I think we've got a good, you know, 174 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: good team that's in its prime. We've got a good 175 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: mixture of players. And you know, part of the reason 176 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: why dri and I were really set on finding not 177 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: only a coach with experience, but a coach that had 178 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: you know, had real success in the playoffs and uh 179 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: you know it played in big games, and that was 180 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: very important that we find that guy because we do 181 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: believe this team, you know, can certainly have that type 182 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: of success. Just putting a franchise tag on a quarterback 183 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: change a lot of what you would want to do 184 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 1: in free agency. Last limit you if you have to 185 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: tag around that Jones saying they're definitively Dak Prescott's our guy. 186 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: He's our number one priority in free agency. That's not 187 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: necessarily new, right, But the thing is he said Amari 188 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: is number two. Amaris the second priority. Where does that 189 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: kind of resonate with you guys, because now it kind 190 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: of sets the pecking order as to what the Cowboys 191 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: are going to do in the office. Well, and I 192 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: think it should because you know, when when Dak is 193 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: the key to everything here. Um. I asked even yesterday 194 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: about can you function with all the things you want 195 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: to do if you're giving him a franchise tag? And 196 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: he sounded like that was no big deal. Sure, that's 197 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: just thirty million on the cap, right or what is 198 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: it twenty? Well, it's thirty three if they go exclusive, 199 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: which but I mean they got eighty game million in 200 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: cap space, I think people, which I get it, they've 201 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 1: got like twenty seven guys to resign, but the Cowboys 202 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,599 Speaker 1: have a lot of room to work with. Yeah, we 203 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: do just thirty three million, just like that. I would 204 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: it mean we'll throw another sixteen on top of it 205 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: if you transition Taka Marii Cooper. Now you're talking, well, 206 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not good at math, but that's about 207 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: fifty million. Yeah, I don't do that. Don't do that. 208 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: You don't want to do that? And then when does 209 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: that put the rest of your roster guys like Byron 210 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: Jones fun Yeah, exactly. You're you're you're basically writing him 211 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: off at that point. Yeah, and that's when when he 212 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: was walking off, he said one and two. And it 213 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: wasn't a one A and one B. This was a 214 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: Dak is one and Mari's two and So I don't 215 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: think that's super surprising though now, I mean to you, 216 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's something we could have guessed that. 217 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,719 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, there's always going to be 218 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: the contention of people that want to try to deal 219 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: Dak or you know, find somebody in the draft that's 220 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: not going to happen. I don't know how betimes if 221 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: you've been hit up for Joe Burrow more times than 222 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: I can count, and it's fun to talk about it, 223 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: but it's not going to happen, which I'm but I 224 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: am interested to see what exactly that looks like, because 225 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: if I had to guess Dak is heading for a 226 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: franchise tag like that, you just you don't see very 227 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: many of these negotiations sort themselves out before the start 228 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: of the league year, because I mean, theoretically Dak could 229 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: hit free agency and see how much he's truly worth. 230 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: Obviously he would want to do that. And yeah, it's 231 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 1: gone so far. It's gone so far here where even 232 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: the season was gone. It's been some really good moments 233 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: from Dak. It's been some moments where you know, he 234 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: obviously could could be better. I mean at the end 235 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: of the day, I mean he was an eight and 236 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: eight quarterback, and yes, he put up a lot of 237 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 1: yards and he had some moments of growth. You know, 238 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: even though one of the coaches there is no longer here, 239 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: I mean John Kitten. I think Kitten had helped a lot. 240 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: I think Kellen Moore I'm sure helped some as well. 241 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: But I you know, the fact is is that Dak 242 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: he didn't in the season the way you want him to. 243 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: You want this guy to be a clutch make plays 244 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, bring him back when they need to. 245 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: He didn't do that. Do I think he's still a 246 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: franchise court Yes, I mean he's the guy. I wouldn't 247 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: change it. I just don't know if he helped himself 248 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: from a money standpoint. And then there's gonna be guys 249 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: that did. There's guys that went on over the top 250 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: that are you know, I had elevated themselves. It's a 251 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 1: strong free agents class of quarterbacks well, and I think 252 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: you can go all the way back to last year's 253 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: off season with Dak, especially the talks that were had 254 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: going into the preseason when they really kind of ramped up, 255 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: and that's where you got the thirty to forty million 256 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: kind of range that they were talking about in there, 257 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: and I think Dak at that moment, said, you know what, 258 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: let's put a pause on this. Let me bet on myself. 259 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: Let me bet on myself for just a little bit. 260 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: And it worked out. At the beginning, it looked like 261 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: the first couple weeks of the season he was gonna 262 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: win that bet, and he was gonna win it outright. 263 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna say he necessarily lost the bet 264 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: because I feel like we're right back where we started 265 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: last year, right around the low thirties potentially being that 266 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: number that really gets this deal done. I think he 267 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: wanted to be totally honest with you, and I hope so. Yes, absolutely, 268 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: And I know he went eight and eight. I know 269 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: he didn't get the job done. But how much did 270 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: he win it though? That's the question. All I know 271 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 1: is the San Francisco forty nine ers set the market 272 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: with Jimmy Garoppolo back at twenty seven million three years 273 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: ago off the strength of eight games, and it looks 274 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: great now because he's in the super Bowl. They had 275 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: no idea that was going to happen when they signed 276 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: him to that deal. Same thing with that, I mean, 277 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: does Derek Carr have a better resume than Dak Prescott. No, 278 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: but he set the market at one time in his 279 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: life Matt Stafford. Dak has already accomplished more than Matt 280 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: Stafford in terms of like postseason success. I'm not saying 281 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: it's a lot, but he has and so and he 282 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: set the market like And that's what I always argue 283 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: with people about, is that's just the way these things work. 284 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: And I think, sorry, I know you got a point 285 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: to make. But Dak was already in the range with 286 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: Carson Winston, Jared Goff, and he went out and had 287 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: the best season of his career. I know a lot 288 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: of people don't want to hear that, but if anything, 289 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: I think he firmly entrenched himself in the low to 290 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 1: mid thirty range. He might not set the market, but 291 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: he's not going below that and the other and then 292 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: you know the other part, which Stephen Jones did an 293 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: amazing job of not answering the question is Pat Mahomes 294 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:55,479 Speaker 1: and Deshaun Watson are eligible to negotiate contracts this offseason? 295 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes is probably going to be the first forty 296 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: million dollar player in NFL history, And all of a sudden, 297 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: Dak's price ceiling goes up, like you could pay him 298 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: thirty four right now. But if Pat Mahomes gets forty 299 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: in two months, and all of a sudden, Dax says, well, 300 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: I want thirty seven if Pat gets forty, And again, 301 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: I know people don't want to hear that, but that's 302 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: just the way these types of things work. So I 303 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: think Dak Prescott is sitting prickedy right see if But 304 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: to me, if Mahomes gets forty, if I'm the Cowboys, 305 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, how could you even be thirty seven? How 306 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: could you be close to that? Like? Is how is 307 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: he close to Pat Mahomes at all? Yeah? I mean statistically, 308 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: because that's Super Bowl that's what the Chief's willingness to 309 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: pay Mahomes says a starting quarterback is worth. That's why, right, 310 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, you know that to me, when 311 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson got into thirty six. I was like, Okay, well, 312 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: how can you be higher than that? I mean, you're 313 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: not one of the best quarterbacks in the league won 314 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: a super Bowl if they would run the ball. He 315 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: wins two super Bowls, you know, I mean he's got 316 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: he's he's just done more with his career, and I 317 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: think Pat Mahomes has as well, even Watson has, so 318 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, it just depends on Watson's done more 319 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: than Dak. He hasn't been to an AFC championship game. 320 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: He's lost four divisional right down the year's Dak. But 321 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: I know that's what I'm saying. I'm saying, if anything, 322 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: they're even Yeah, I guess they're I guess they're even 323 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: one year behind in the draft. How many playoff wins 324 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: does Watson have? It can't be more than one or two, right, 325 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: I think it's two, okay, because they've well know they've 326 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: won four division titles or division Oh, I don't know, 327 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: it's it's right around three. Probably it's on his third year. 328 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: Which to go back to my point, though I know 329 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: Garoppolos in the Super Bowl, his resume was not better 330 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: when he set the market, and neither was Derek carrs 331 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins just final like he just made his longest 332 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: playoff push and he got obliterated in the divisional round, 333 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: just like that did. So those deals to me are 334 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: always fifty percent what you've done, fifty percent of what 335 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: you're going to do. And you know, if that's the 336 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: case with Mahomes, it's really scary because I mean, if 337 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: he's getting paid what he's done and what he's gonna do, 338 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: it's gonna be higher. Then forty may not be may 339 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: not get it done, true, and you're one hundred percent right. Listen, 340 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes is in his category all of his own. 341 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: That's not the point I'm trying to make. But if 342 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes signs that deal this offseason, like that's the 343 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: way negotiations work, Dak and his people are going to 344 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: see that that. I would be shocked if they're going 345 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: to try to like compete with Mahomes's number, but they're 346 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: gonna say, well, we slot in here now, you know, 347 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: because thirty six million a year is all of a sudden, 348 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: a lot less than top of the market. It's just 349 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: it's just the way it works, which is why I 350 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: think it's so important for them to get this deal 351 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: done sooner rather than later. What if the Chiefs, I 352 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: mean they're not in a hurry, they don't have to 353 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: do No, they absolutely don't. They absolutely do not. They've 354 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: got him under contract for two more years. They could 355 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: pay it. I mean, can you imagine what he will 356 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: make in his fourth year if he's if he's unreal again, Yeah, well, 357 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: what if they just say we're not doing anything right now. 358 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: I mean he's probably would hold out, he could, that mean, 359 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: I mean it's fat. I mean he is so far 360 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: in a way like the best player in the NFL 361 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: right now. Just int like what he brings to that team. 362 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: And that's the you know, sitting here arguing Dak's credentials 363 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: can't say anything about Mahomes. I mean, he's been to 364 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 1: the AFC title Game in both of his years as 365 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: the starter, he made it to the Super Bowl in 366 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: his second season. Larry Well could win the Super Bowls. 367 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: There's like no knock on his credentials at all. You 368 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: can't do anything with it, which yeah, I mean he 369 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: could almost name his price well. And I think the 370 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: argument that you brought up about comparing Dak in Deshaun 371 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: Watson's resume, I think Dad needs to probably stand true. 372 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: I mean, that's where I see where you're you're talking 373 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: about in terms of the contract potentially for Dak growing 374 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: a little bit because des John Watson's in that same 375 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: conversation right now, is Patrick Mahomes as those guys that 376 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: could be re up contract wise. But we'll dive deeper 377 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: into that coming up here in just a little bit. 378 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break. 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Now Keatman, Dave Elman, Kyle Yeoman's 423 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: with you as I fill in for Derek Eagleton on 424 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: the road here from Alabama and guys the Senior Bowl 425 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: this week. And we talked a little bit about Stephen 426 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: Jones in the deck in Amari contract situation going on 427 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: this offseason. But of course he was here for a reason. 428 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: He was watching players, he was scouting a little bit, 429 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: even though it may have only just been for a 430 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: couple of moments yesterday he only stayed for the first practice, 431 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: which was the South team here in Mobile, but at 432 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: the same time he in speaking with you guys in 433 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 1: the rest of the media following that first practice, kind 434 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: of talked about the shift of players and the importance 435 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: of the Cowboys to potentially draft just playmakers as opposed 436 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: to fitting them into schemes, which is what we've been 437 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: used to seeing as Cowboys fans for quite some time. 438 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 1: How much is a shift? Is that? Is that a 439 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: huge ship monumental that Cowboys fans don't even really know 440 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: where to look at because it's been such a common 441 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: thing for us. I think, you know, I asked the 442 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: question to Steven. I thought he was going to give 443 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: me an answer. I was like, well, that's kind of 444 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: what we've always done, But he didn't. He said, no, 445 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: it is kind of a change. And and you know, 446 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: it's we've talked about this before. We hate when when 447 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: there was free agents there, like why don't they get 448 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: this guy? You know, he's he's a great player, and 449 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: they need this position, they need a safety, they need 450 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: a linebacker, they need this guy. Yeah, he's not a 451 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: good scheme fit. These defensive tackles not a good scheme fit. 452 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: And we're like, all right, well this scheme's got you 453 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: eight and eight. I'm like, like, what, you know, it's 454 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: just been frustrating. Yeah, so now we'll see if it 455 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: if it actually goes down like this, But it just 456 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: sounds like let's just get the players in, let's see 457 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: what we've got, and then then we'll figure it out. 458 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: That kind of goes back to what I was saying. 459 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: I want to see how that works because like at 460 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: the end, like there's gonna be some element of that, 461 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: you know, like you're not gonna draft a quarterback at 462 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: seventeen potentially if you're of course, if you resigned back, 463 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: you're not gonna go for well not only that, but 464 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: I mean you can even look at free agency and 465 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: you know, I mean Mike Nolan's going to have a 466 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: preferred type of safety that he thinks can play well 467 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: for him, or defensive tackle for that matter. It might 468 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: be a completely different archetype from what we're used to 469 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: under Rod Marinelli. But coaches are still going to have 470 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 1: their preference. But I wonder again how much say will 471 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: they have or will they just you know, I love 472 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: the idea, I really I need to we need to 473 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: find will McClay and talk to him. I love the 474 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: idea of Mike McCarthy just giving him a spreadsheet of like, 475 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: this is what we're looking for in terms of traits 476 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: at every position. Go do your thing, and that's I mean, 477 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: that's how I would ideally like this to go. Is 478 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: if Will's kind of got the grocery list and he's like, 479 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: all right, this is what they're looking for. I think 480 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 1: I can figure this out. That would be interesting to 481 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: look at, just to see the kind of conversations that 482 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: would be had between the coaching staff and the scouting 483 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: department with like we talked about in the first segment, 484 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: such a new rapport between those two departments, the coaching 485 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: staff and scouting and Stephen. It's I mean, Steven said 486 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: yesterday that there have already been some productive talks between 487 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: you know, McCarthy and and Will and him and Jerry 488 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: just kind of the whole front office brain trust. I mean, 489 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: it hasn't been a long time, but obviously, I mean, 490 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: you want to get those ducks in a row heading 491 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: into the draft projects. Almost sounds like you don't need 492 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: it as much, you know, you don't really need to 493 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: make sure, you know, if you had a new scout 494 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: that came in like let's say last year or two 495 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 1: years ago, and he's like, I got this defensive tackle. 496 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: They're like, whoa, whoa, do you know what Rod Marinelli 497 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: likes and all that. Well, no, but well you need 498 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: to you need to figure it out. In this case, 499 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: it's like, all right, I got some two or three 500 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: really good players. We're going to figure this out, and 501 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 1: you guys decide which one you like. I like this 502 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: one over this one, and you know, and it's not 503 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: like you have to know the coaches and you know, 504 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: scouts don't need to go on some retreat together and 505 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: hang out and know each other. You know. It's like 506 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: and clearly they didn't, you know, they didn't. They didn't 507 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: come here for you know. But again there's still a 508 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,719 Speaker 1: combine and that's really when it gets when it gets serious. 509 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: Now you start ramping it up a little bit. Yeah, 510 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 1: I mean that's you know, I kind of loved Mike 511 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: McCarthy's honesty last week when he met with us, and 512 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: I mean, he's got a lot of work to do 513 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: getting everything together in Frisco. But he was also like, yeah, 514 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the tape is like HD quality well, like, 515 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: what do I need to be in mobile for? I 516 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: can just flip it on in my office. I was like, 517 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: you're absolutely right, Like if you're not in networking, I 518 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: mean I get why the scouts are here, that makes sense, 519 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: But like, if you're not looking for a job or 520 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: looking to network in this day and age, I'm not 521 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: sure what benefit there is for a coach to be 522 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: here because you're gonna have a chance to meet with 523 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: all these guys in Indianapolis. They can come to your facility, 524 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: you can go work them out. You're gonna have about 525 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: twenty five opportunities to see all of these guys. So 526 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: I appreciate McCarthy's honesty, Like yeah, I mean we can. 527 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: We can watch these practices anywhere. And they won. I 528 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: mean that was that was the winner, because if you know, 529 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: if they're gonna get the tape and they're gonna watch 530 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 1: it in seventy two degree, you know, yeah, yeah, they're 531 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: good for real. Yeah, they didn't have to put on 532 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: four layers or five layers to get a lot of 533 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: use out of my heavy jacket Gulf Coast weather. With 534 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: all that being said, you're talking about McCarthy and the 535 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 1: generality that he has in terms of saying, we aren't 536 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: going to define a scheme yet. I mean, he said 537 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: last week that there's gonna be four men up front 538 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: on the defensive side. Took a while to get that 539 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: out exactly like he really didn't. But even when he 540 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: said it, he's still kind of backtracked it a little 541 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 1: bit and said, hey, we're gonna run everything. Though, good 542 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: watch out, We're gonna run a little bit of everything. 543 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: Let's go. Is this mindset in terms of going and 544 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: scouting players based off of the fact that you don't 545 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: really know exactly what scheme you're gonna run on defense 546 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: and the majority of our draft needs are probably relying 547 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: on that side of the ball, Well, I think, I mean, 548 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: they've got a better idea than we do, obviously, and 549 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: which again I think it's exciting because you know, the 550 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: analogy I always beat into the ground with the you know, 551 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: the Garrett regime was like colored by numbers, you know, 552 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: is like, well, this is our defensive tackle and he 553 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: goes here and this is our cornerback and he did 554 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: like just very regimented. And that's you know, that's why 555 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: a guy like Tyron matt if you supposedly didn't fit 556 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: here because basically they were like, well, he doesn't have 557 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: a clear cut position, so we don't know what to 558 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: do with him. That drove me up the wall because 559 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: he's clearly a really good player, he's all Pro and 560 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: going to the super Bowl. It's exciting to think that 561 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: they can be changing that attitude. You know, maybe this 562 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: will be a multiple defense. Maybe we'll see some three 563 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: four looks. We'll see some four three looks, four two five. 564 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: You know, Belichick's up in New England running like a 565 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 1: two three seven or whatever the hell alignment that was 566 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: this year. It's exciting to think that they could do 567 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: a little bit of all of that. And so we're 568 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: going to figure it out as the draft process goes. 569 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: But like right now, I don't know what they're looking for, 570 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: and that's like that. I feel like that is one 571 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: of our biggest assignments from now until April is to 572 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 1: figure out what they have their eye on in this ye. 573 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: I think it'll be before that is when you'll really 574 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: see kind of what they're looking for. You'll see a 575 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: mentality change. In March, I mean, when you could we 576 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: talked about twenty five twenty six free agents that they've got. 577 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of those guys are on the 578 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: defensive line, so we're gonna find out kind of how 579 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: they feel about these guys, Robert Quinn and Malite Collins. 580 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: You know that, I guess there's there more. I guess 581 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: Michael Bennett is in that group. You know, where do 582 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 1: they put the value on some of those defensive linemen 583 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: and maybe a defensive lineman from other teams? You know 584 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: that That's the one thing that I think we kind 585 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: of overlook a lot is you know, Mike McCarthy as 586 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 1: opposed to other coaches that have come from you know, 587 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 1: like let's say Joe Judge, who was working who was 588 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: in you know, New England, and now he's with the Giants, 589 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: So you ask him about somebody from the Bears and 590 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: he's like, well, you know, we didn't play the Bears 591 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: or but like Mike McCarthy, supposedly they were looking at 592 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: all teams last year. So from free agent standpoint, it's 593 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: going to be interesting to see how well equipped he 594 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: is to know what's out there in the landscape of 595 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 1: free agency, because supposedly he was watching not every game, 596 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: as he said, but it's a lot of games and 597 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: he backtracked on that one a little bit out. Okay, 598 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: press conference of your life man, Yeah, exactly. And one 599 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: of the guys you mentioned the defensive line needing some 600 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: holes to fill. One of the guys that could potentially 601 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: fill those holes at defensive line, Javon Kinlaw, the defensive 602 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: tackle out of South Carolina, could be there at seventeen 603 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. He's at the Senior Bowl here. Immobile 604 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: got a chance to talk to him yesterday and he 605 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: said something pretty interesting about where he thinks he could 606 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: be as compared to Aaron Donald. And Aaron Donald come 607 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: to this week really dominating some little by himself at 608 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: the top prospect the kind of player you think, I 609 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: think I can be better? Honestly, that's just the expectations 610 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: I have for myself and that's just how high I 611 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: am on myself. So quite the confidence from mister Kinlaw 612 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: with the here at the Senior Bowl saying that I 613 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: think I could be better than Aaron Donald. If the 614 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: NFL scouts think that too, he won't be at seventeen. 615 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: That's fair. So, I mean, if that's what if they 616 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: think Donald Donald fell to what thirteen? Something like ten? 617 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: He I mean, right, outside the top ten. It's crazy 618 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: to think that he I mean, he did not go 619 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: close to the top five by first round standards. Is 620 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: what is a kin Law's like height, weight and all 621 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: that six six over three hundred Yeah, three out of 622 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: two I think is what he's passing the test. Aaron 623 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: Donald didn't do that, you know, like he was for 624 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,959 Speaker 1: sure he fell thirteen. He fell twelve spots because it 625 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: was like he's too short, He's not gonna be killing 626 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: people like that. Yeah, which that is. It's an interesting 627 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,719 Speaker 1: dichotomy because Donald was like the most decorated defensive player 628 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: in college football history, like he won in every award 629 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: you can win. Dominated at Pitt kin Law super I 630 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: mean freakishly talented guy. I mean, which actually I was 631 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: gonna say, you know, mediocre program, but so was pitt Yeah, 632 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: and it didn't matter. It's Donald whereas you know Ken 633 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: Law and half the freakish production. He does have the 634 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: freakish measurables. I think beauty's in the eye of the 635 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: beholder there, because you see some tape where he absolutely 636 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: just kills people. He's got some really crazy bend if 637 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: you saw one on one pass Rustrials yesterday. But at 638 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: the same time, you're like, Okay, where's the consistency? So 639 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: it is interesting, Yeah, I mean, and I mean that's 640 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: awesome that he thinks he can be better than Donald. 641 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: Like every draft prospect I've ever talked to. Oh, I mean, 642 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: if he's there at seventeen, I'm definitely interested. Okay, I 643 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: just think it's funny that Donald used the Senior Bowl 644 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: as a launching pad. So it's only Wednesday, you know, 645 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: Ken Law's got two more days of practice to go. 646 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: We'll see what people are saying about him, because this 647 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: is really the only opportunity where you actually get to 648 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: do football. He looked pretty good yesterday. I don't know 649 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: if he looked as good as Aaron Donald did when 650 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: he came here, though. Aaron Donald was the thirteenth overall 651 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: pick in twenty fourteen, and by that time, I mean, 652 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,239 Speaker 1: that's Saint Louis Rams utterly insane. Yeah, unbelievable. I mean, 653 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: and Nick's absolutely right, Like if he's six one instead 654 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: of like five to eleven, he's a top three pick. 655 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: You know, I remember that draft. There were three defensive 656 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: players the Cowboys really wanted and then and they all 657 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: went ahead of the Cowboys there they're sitting at a 658 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: belief sixteeneen and Donald was one of them. Anthony Barr 659 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: was another, Ryan Shazier. They all went off the board 660 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: like within five picks, and you know, we all kind 661 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: of see that lining up in the draft like this too. 662 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you got guys like Grant Delpit, you got 663 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: a guy like h like Javon Kinlaw. Maybe is Xavier McKinney. Sure, 664 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: those are three guys the Cowboys could be honing in 665 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: on in terms of a draft pick defensively in that 666 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: first round and sitting at seventeen, there's no there's no 667 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: nothing that says that they won't be gone by the 668 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: time seventeen. Also point out the fact that Cowboys got 669 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: Zach Martin, yeah at sixteen, and had to fight off 670 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: Jerry not to take Johnny Manziel and they up you know, 671 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: Zach Wark, so he ended up ended up working out great. Yeah, 672 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: I guess you would hate saying this about Zachon Martin. 673 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: We'd rather have Aaron Donald, yes, And that's I mean, 674 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: that's that's no disrespect towards Zack Martin to say it's 675 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: been incredible. You would rather have arguably the best defensive 676 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: player in the NFL over the last decade. You have 677 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,719 Speaker 1: a great memory when it comes to draft. Who went 678 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: with number one in that draft that would have been 679 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. Was that Clowne's draft? Or was clown before that? 680 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: I think he was twenty thirteen, wouldn't he know? Uh? 681 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: Number one? Sorry? Ass Well, this is gonna drive me 682 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: derails it a little bit. My point is is I 683 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: don't even remember who went top five, but it's gonna 684 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: be hard to say that Donald and Martin wouldn't be 685 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: in the top three or four picks there. It was 686 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: Jadavian Clowney, by the way, as the top pick. Don 687 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: David Hellman through a little bit, Okay, yeah, I mean, well, 688 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: oh it's a pretty loaded draft, but the top five 689 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: is not that great. Yeah, you got Clowney and then 690 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: Greg Robinson the offensive tackle for No. Or if he is, 691 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: he's like I don't think believe hanging on Blake Mortal, 692 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins, he's still in the league course at four. 693 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: And then it goes Khalil Mack, Jake Matthews, Mike Evans. 694 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: Not bad, pretty good. I mean those are three guys 695 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: that have been to a Pro Bowl. Justin Gilbert was eighth, 696 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: Anthony Barr went nine, Eric Ebron tenth, Odell Beckham went 697 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: twelfth to the Giants, one pick before Aaron Donald. This, 698 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: I mean, that was a really great draft, but I'm no. 699 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: I mean, to Nick's point, if you're looking at this, 700 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: you're saying you're redoing it. Khalil Mack, Mike Evans Um. 701 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: I think if you Aaron Donald and Zach did that draft, 702 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: you would probably take Zack Martin. We got a pretty 703 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: good pass rusher draft two, because that was the same 704 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: draft that Cowboys went and selected DeMarcus Lawrence in the 705 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: second round at thirty four. Yeah, so you got a 706 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: good pass pass rusher with there, and you got in 707 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: your first two picks, you got Zack Martin and d 708 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: Loss And where are the Cowboys picking right around the 709 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: same spot. It sounds dumb to say, but I mean 710 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: this is as high as they've picked in recent memory, 711 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: because thanks to all these good draft picks, they've been 712 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: finishing with winning records like those are their worst record 713 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: since twenty sixteen, and they got Martin after a mediocre 714 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: season in twenty thirteen. So I'm really excited about who's 715 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: going to be there for them at seventeen. But what 716 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 1: I like about that pick in certain positions are that way, 717 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: is that if you say sixteen seventeenth pick. Uh, you know, 718 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: can you really get a good player if you get 719 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: valued um spots like a guard? Yeah, you know, if 720 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: you'd take a guard at sixteen or seventeen, you're gonna 721 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: get probably the best guard in the draft. Maybe it depends. 722 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I know Quenton Nelson a few years ago 723 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 1: with five or six, and he's been awesome. But you'd 724 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: take a guard that high if you take a center. 725 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,959 Speaker 1: I'm not saying nicaboys need those spots, but tight in. Yeah, 726 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: traditionally is that way. Now there's an exception to the rule, 727 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: I guess in Eric Ebron. But um, you know, he's 728 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: an interesting name too because he's he's going to be 729 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: a free agent, right is and I and I think 730 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: I think he's a guy that Jerry and and and 731 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: you know Will and I think we'll see about McCarthy 732 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: if they like that kind of player. But that wouldn't 733 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: be surprising to me. We've got a guy in Blake Darwood. Yeah, 734 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: we like him, but he's a twenty six year old 735 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: free agent. He's go out and see what we can 736 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: do here that eighty million dollars of cash. They can't. 737 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: They can't fill all their needs in the draft, no, 738 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 1: they And it's almost it's it's refreshing, like it would 739 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: be so easy to just turn this into like the 740 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: dak and Amari watch for the rest of the year, 741 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: you know, but like that that I'm just not even 742 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: worried about that. Those guys are They're going to get 743 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: tagged if I had to guess, and those negotiations will 744 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 1: play out on their own time. But I don't have 745 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: to sit here and wonder whether he's going to be 746 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 1: part of the team, right either one of them. And 747 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: so that allows us to focus on what do you 748 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: do at tight end? What do you do at safety? 749 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: What do you do at defensive tackle? What do you 750 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: do at cornerback? Can they afford to bring back Byron Jones? 751 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,879 Speaker 1: Does this coaching staff even want to bring back Byron Jones? 752 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: Because I mean, you know, he was about to be 753 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: an outcast until Christoph Shards showed up, and now Christoph 754 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: Shard's leaving again. And it's it's really fascinating, I wit, 755 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's still basically it's too early in 756 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: the process for us to know. But over the coming weeks, 757 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna start to get answers to some of these questions. 758 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: And I did ask Stephen. Of course he didn't answer. 759 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: He walked off. He was like one dac to Amari. 760 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 1: And then of course I'm like number three, not ready 761 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: to say it was number three. We don't know. He's like, 762 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,399 Speaker 1: I'm not going that far. But that's, you know, that's 763 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: what we do. We I mean, we think it's Byron 764 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: Jones or MALIEK. Collins, and you never know, they might 765 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: look at it be Robert Quinn. Yeah, you never know. 766 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: But Michael Bennett. They have to address some of these 767 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: concerns and free agency, and that's the point. I mean, 768 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 1: you know, you do what you can in free agency, 769 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: which opens you up in the draft. That's, you know, 770 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: that is the goal every single year. They haven't always 771 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: done as good a job of it as other years, 772 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: but it's interesting to think the way they could shape 773 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: this and how that will affect their decisions in the draft. 774 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 1: And we'll talk more about that draft tomorrow eleven o'clock 775 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: right back here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and on 776 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: the Draft Show. Yeah, you got it back here, David, 777 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: I will be back tomorrow at eleven o'clock. We'll switch 778 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: out Nick even for Bucky Brooks ye here at the 779 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: insert hotel name here. Don't want to give that away 780 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: because I would give give it way too much information. 781 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: So we'll be back one more segment on the way 782 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,439 Speaker 1: for the break here on this Wednesday. When we come back, 783 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: we'll talk about a new rule potentially and being experimented 784 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: on in the Pro Bowl when we return here on 785 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:32,280 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot com Since eighteen sixty five, Stetson hats 786 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: are American maid with pride right here in Texas, and 787 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: Stetson is proud to be on the field with America's team. 788 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: Want to show your Texas and team pride too? You 789 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 1: can by purchasing your own stetson. 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They all are as if to say, 817 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 1: it's so nice to treat you. And even though it 818 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: feels weird to talk to we, can you pick one 819 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 1: up and say, it's so nice to be treated doctor Pepper. 820 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,760 Speaker 1: It's so nice to treat you. Back to the Break, 821 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: final segment. Here of the Break live from Mobile, Alabama 822 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 1: and the twenty twenty Greece's Senior Bowl. David Hellman, Nick 823 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: eat mccyle Yeoman's with you here on Dallas Cowboys dot 824 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 1: Com and Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio and Guys Pro Bowl. 825 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 1: It's always been a fun time to kind of experiment 826 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: with new NFL rule changes. They're gonna do it again 827 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 1: this year, like no tackling, yeah, and no no effort. 828 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 1: You're gonna say you said you like you said. It's 829 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: always a fun time and it's definitely not They have 830 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: fun up there sometimes. But they're gonna insert what could 831 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: be a new rule for on site kicks, and I 832 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: found that's extremely interesting. So basically the rule is the 833 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: team that just scored, instead of having an onsite kick 834 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: or kicking off to their opponent, they would get the 835 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: ball at their own twenty five yard line that's where 836 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,240 Speaker 1: they would start. They'd give ultimately a fourth and fifteen, 837 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: the scoring team has to gain fifteen or more yards, 838 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 1: it would retain possession and continue that drive. However, if 839 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,720 Speaker 1: in that one play they did not convert the fifteen yards, 840 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 1: the opposing team would get the ball back where that 841 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: ball was spotted at the end of the play. So 842 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: if you gained ten yards, you would get it at 843 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 1: the opposing team would get it in an enemy territory 844 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,880 Speaker 1: at the thirty five yard line. If it was an 845 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: incomplete passed then you're all the way back at the 846 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,879 Speaker 1: twenty five. And with a play like that, you think 847 00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 1: about it, it's if with it being fourth and fifteen, 848 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: it's mostly a passing down, that's going to be a 849 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: passing situation. So my question is to you, what do 850 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,879 Speaker 1: you think about this? It's kind of intriguing to think 851 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: about just the fact of having a different way to 852 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: retain possession late in games. I like the spirit of 853 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 1: it because I think that's that's what's going to take 854 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: to work around the way the game is changing, is 855 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: like innovation and new ideas, because I mean, honestly, what's 856 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: the point of an onside kick right now? Anyway, Like 857 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 1: I think I think two were recovered in the NFL 858 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 1: this season, or I mean it was. It was certainly 859 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: less than five out of however many dozen were attempted 860 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: or even one hundred, Like the success rate was nothing. 861 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 1: And so it's a pointless play which takes the excitement 862 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: out of the game because it it basically kills the 863 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 1: ability for somebody to come back by down multiple scores. 864 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: So if this is a way you can reintroduce that 865 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,919 Speaker 1: and have teams have more hope of doing it, I'm 866 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 1: all for it. Going through it off the cuff like 867 00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 1: it does suck that that kind of removes some of 868 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 1: the surprise element. Like a cool thing about an onside 869 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: kick is you can never completely predict when it's going 870 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 1: to happen, and this obviously is a situation where the 871 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: defense will be ready for the play. But again, if 872 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 1: it can inject some drama into late game scenarios, I'm 873 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: all for it. I thought the same thing, but I 874 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,360 Speaker 1: think you still have your surprise on sidekicks during the game. 875 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,880 Speaker 1: I think in this case, you know you're only gonna 876 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 1: do it, You're only gonna give an opportunity for to 877 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 1: to be on defense on the twenty five yard line. Me, 878 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 1: you're only going to do that if you just have 879 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 1: to late in the game, you know, I mean, it's 880 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: just late in the game when everyone knows you're gonna 881 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 1: onside kick. Anyways. Well, well, to counteract that point, what 882 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 1: about the teams that look at it analytically or maybe 883 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,840 Speaker 1: have a strong passing game in terms of Hey, I 884 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 1: have Pat Mahomes or Aaron Rodgers in the backfield, good, 885 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:49,320 Speaker 1: let's throw it. Let's go. I had the thirty second 886 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 1: ranked defense and I was going up against the number 887 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: I'd say number one offense, but that would be DAC. 888 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: But we know what we're talking about. We know what 889 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: we're talking about. Hey, you know, I'm just saying if 890 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: I had the worst defense in the league and I 891 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,799 Speaker 1: was playing the best quarterback of the best passing game 892 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 1: in the league, I'd take my chances on fourth and 893 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 1: fifteen that the analytics say that that you're not gonna 894 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 1: get that. That's why that's why it's put it. Put 895 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 1: it there. I don't like the twenty five yard line, Okay, 896 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 1: I don't. That's just me. I I don't like the 897 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 1: fact that you're already in field goal range because if 898 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 1: you do an on site kick and they recover it. 899 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 1: They recovered at the forty yard line. Forty five yard line, 900 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 1: you're not you're not in field goal range. You're not. 901 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 1: You still have a little bit of work. It's great 902 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 1: field position. But I don't like the twenty five. I've 903 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 1: seen it. Who else was doing this? Was it the AF? 904 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 1: It's something similar to that twenty eight yard line I 905 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,359 Speaker 1: have seen on the twenty eight that's still down there 906 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 1: pretty I'm about the thirty five. Well, I know the 907 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,360 Speaker 1: Broncos tried to get something similar to this past last 908 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 1: year or maybe two years ago, and they got shot 909 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,759 Speaker 1: down pretty quickly. I like the thirty five yard line, 910 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 1: and it could be a fourth and twelve. You know, 911 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 1: you get it. You're at midfield. I mean, you're you're 912 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 1: you're cooking at that point. The irony is that So 913 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: they're doing this in the Pro Bowl? Yep, I mean 914 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 1: talk about not a representative Like that's what does the 915 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 1: atmosphere like? They don't they're not gonna play defense anyway. 916 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 1: Picking up fourth and fifteen should be easy at the 917 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. And also what's the you know, what's the recourse? Oh, 918 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 1: we don't have it, like oh, we didn't get it, like, okay, Well, 919 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 1: it just gives people a chance to see how it was. 920 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 1: I like it, but it's not gonna Well, maybe it 921 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 1: gives people like us a chance to just have this 922 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 1: conversation and to kind of work through what could and 923 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,280 Speaker 1: could not be problems. I love the idea of finding 924 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: ways around and look like, I get it you. I mean, 925 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,839 Speaker 1: you need to make the game safer. We know too 926 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,239 Speaker 1: much about it to keep doing things the old way. 927 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: But again, it kind of kills some of the drama 928 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,399 Speaker 1: of it. Kills some of the drama of the game 929 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 1: when you know, you know that nobody feels on side 930 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 1: kicks anymore, like it just doesn't happen well on side kicks. 931 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 1: That we're at a historic rate of about twenty one 932 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 1: percent through twenty seventeen. It went down in twenty eighteen 933 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 1: to seven percent, and then it went back a little 934 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:03,280 Speaker 1: bit up in twenty nineteen thirt that's honestly, that's actually 935 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 1: not that's not converting it though. That's just how many 936 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,239 Speaker 1: ed Okay, that's how many attempts they had. You know, 937 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,839 Speaker 1: there there you go. I would rather see tweaks to that, 938 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:18,360 Speaker 1: to that rule, to those and I know the safety 939 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,319 Speaker 1: is a big part of it here too, and I 940 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 1: don't like you know, there's a lot of purists out 941 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 1: there that are like, I don't why do you got 942 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 1: to change it and all that. But if that was 943 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,400 Speaker 1: the case way back when somebody was said, you know 944 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 1: what if we just put helmets on these guys, and 945 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 1: they're like, no, we can't do that, you know, well, 946 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 1: let's put helmets and then let's put face mask and 947 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 1: then you know, and here we are. So you gotta keep, 948 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 1: like Dave said, you gotta keep evolving. I get that, 949 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 1: but you know, I'm I don't like the kickoff rule 950 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,319 Speaker 1: as it is. I hate seeing a guy stand back 951 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:47,839 Speaker 1: there with his hands of that. I want to see 952 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: the kickoff return. I think it's one of the most 953 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,360 Speaker 1: exciting plays in the game. Then again, I've never been 954 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 1: hurt doing it, so well, what do you think about 955 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 1: the The XFL is going with a new kickoff rule 956 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 1: where you start within ten yards of each other and 957 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 1: it's basically a hunt. So you have a pun er 958 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,840 Speaker 1: back however many yards I don't know exactly what it is. 959 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 1: You have a returner back and then you have ten 960 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 1: guys up on the line, of scrimmage. They're ten yards 961 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 1: away from each other and basically as soon as the 962 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,239 Speaker 1: ball is kicked, they collide and they go for it, 963 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 1: and it's supposed to be safer because it's only ten 964 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 1: yards away, and then you get the return and you 965 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 1: still have strategic rugby a little bit. It's just like, 966 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,760 Speaker 1: yeah that, I mean, I don't know a lot about 967 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 1: rugby or Australian rules football, but like that's what it 968 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 1: sounds like. But I mean, it's after the catch, not 969 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 1: after the kick. I mean, I agree with Nick that 970 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 1: the kickoff is one of the coolest players in football, 971 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,799 Speaker 1: but it's almost pointless these days, and like there's a 972 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: few teams that know how to take advantage of it. 973 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 1: But I would rather see innovations to keep these things 974 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 1: in the game than just keep kicking ninety eight percent 975 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,319 Speaker 1: of kickoffs through the back of the end zone or 976 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 1: just putting the ball down and saying gain fifteen yards? Yeah, 977 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,319 Speaker 1: or do you like that or do you think that's fun? 978 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,360 Speaker 1: I think I think it would be fun if team, Like, 979 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 1: if teams thought they had a realistic shot to get 980 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,360 Speaker 1: the ball back. I mean, you know, and picking up 981 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 1: fifteen yards is hard, man. I would love to see 982 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 1: that playout. I mean, picking up fifteen yards against an 983 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,239 Speaker 1: NFL defense that knows you have to pass. Yeah, that's 984 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,439 Speaker 1: easier said than that. It's the question that we talked 985 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 1: about before the show. That okay, So let's say that's 986 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:21,240 Speaker 1: the rule. It does illegal contact a five yard penalty. 987 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 1: Would that give you a first automatic first down? No way, 988 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 1: Like in that situation, you've got you have to get 989 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 1: the fifteen. I would think you've got to have a penalty. 990 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 1: It's a face mask or a PI or something that 991 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 1: gives you fifteen, that's fine, But nothing short of that 992 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,080 Speaker 1: should should? You know? Oh my god. I mean I'm 993 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 1: just imagining Pat Mahomes like lining up and just chunking 994 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 1: like a go ball to Tyree Hill on fourth and fifteen, 995 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 1: you know, but like they're just going for the end 996 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 1: zone and stop us. I mean, we're gonna complete it 997 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 1: or you have to tackle us and we get the DPI. 998 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:54,840 Speaker 1: I mean, there's all sorts of stuff you can do. 999 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 1: Rod marin all these defense they always would call it 1000 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,360 Speaker 1: with money forty four money forty four, which all the 1001 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 1: defense was lined back, and I mean that you'd have 1002 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 1: guys to standing at the first down marker. So that's 1003 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 1: gonna that would be very challenging as well. I mean, yeah, 1004 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 1: but probably easier to get than you're, you know, than 1005 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 1: you're on side kick the way it is right now, 1006 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 1: I like the idea, and I don't know it might 1007 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,719 Speaker 1: I'm still not gonna watch the Pro Bowl, but I'll 1008 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,359 Speaker 1: be curious to see what happens. I'll probably go look 1009 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,799 Speaker 1: for the results on Twitter. Yeah, you know. They're also 1010 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,399 Speaker 1: playing around with a potential new rule in terms of 1011 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 1: false starts, in a new way to to kind of 1012 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,120 Speaker 1: back off on false starts a little bit. In terms 1013 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,279 Speaker 1: of the flags being thrown. They're trying to loosen up 1014 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 1: the rule. They are already loosen up. Like I swear 1015 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 1: to God, he is the case. What's what are they? 1016 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 1: What's more, it's tough to say. So it's it is 1017 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: a false start if a flexed eligible receiver in a 1018 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,280 Speaker 1: two point stance who flinches or picks up one foot 1019 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,720 Speaker 1: as long as his other foot remains partially on the ground, 1020 00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 1: and he resets one second prior to the snap. Chris Beam, 1021 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 1: you have you have some of this, So it's kind 1022 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:06,239 Speaker 1: of he's our producer here. It's an illegal shift it's 1023 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 1: all illegal shift thing. It's not necessarily false starts, it's 1024 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 1: an illegal shift. Okay, okay, I love that. I'm gonna say, 1025 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 1: does anybody else feel like I saw a more offensive 1026 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,279 Speaker 1: lineman get away with jumping early this season than I 1027 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,360 Speaker 1: can remember in the rest of my life. Well, I 1028 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 1: think what's weird too is that you know, they're always 1029 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,920 Speaker 1: making calls and stuff in the guard in the center, 1030 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 1: they got their hand up and they turn and look 1031 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:31,880 Speaker 1: back here and then but all of a sudden, if 1032 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 1: you just kind of flinch barely, like that's a penalty. 1033 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 1: That's what everything else. Yeah, I have I have a 1034 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 1: whole problem with with with the way that works because 1035 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 1: I hate the fact that the defensive lineman, I mean, 1036 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 1: they're getting hard counted, which is fine, you can do that, right, 1037 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,719 Speaker 1: the guy can change his cadence. But then if you 1038 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 1: jump off sides, I mean you jump just for a 1039 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 1: second and then try to go back, the offensive lineman 1040 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 1: can can pop up and say and now you're you know, 1041 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 1: now it's a penalty. So I don't know all these 1042 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,239 Speaker 1: rules or for the offense, yeah, and saying we're the 1043 00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,800 Speaker 1: fourth and fifteen. There was twenty five times in the 1044 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 1: league this year that it was fourth or fifteen and 1045 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,560 Speaker 1: greater it only they only converted six times, so it's 1046 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 1: twenty four percent of the time. Wow, that's still higher 1047 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 1: than offida. That's just like, that's more than I would 1048 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 1: have thought and more than an onside kick. So if 1049 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,320 Speaker 1: it's going to make the end of games more entertaining, 1050 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 1: I'm all full. Fifteen times in the whole league last 1051 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,440 Speaker 1: year there was a fourth and fifteen twenty five twenty times, 1052 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,759 Speaker 1: and six of twenty five is twenty four percent of 1053 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,400 Speaker 1: the time. And that makes sense because I feel like 1054 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,360 Speaker 1: that stat would have to be specifically for fourth and fifteen. 1055 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 1: It can't be fourth in sixteen or fourteen because of 1056 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 1: the rule and probably what's being written. It had to 1057 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,600 Speaker 1: be exactly fourth and fifteen most likely for that to happen, 1058 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,680 Speaker 1: which is twenty five times is kind of a lot. Well, 1059 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,040 Speaker 1: And and that's a little bit. That's that's you know, 1060 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 1: it's a little scowed just because it could be fourth 1061 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,320 Speaker 1: and fifteen from the twenty yard line going in. That's 1062 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,359 Speaker 1: that's definitely hard to get. You don't have last space 1063 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,920 Speaker 1: fourth and fifteen from your own twenty five with Tyreek 1064 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,359 Speaker 1: Hill or somebody that can just you know, that's part 1065 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 1: of the play. He can go deep, So that's that'll 1066 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 1: be interesting. I mean, I don't you know. My first 1067 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,120 Speaker 1: thought is that I don't know if I like that, 1068 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,560 Speaker 1: but you know, it'll it'll be interesting to see really quick. 1069 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,399 Speaker 1: Because Dave brought up the point of the Pro Bowl 1070 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,239 Speaker 1: maybe not being the best place to test it. Would 1071 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 1: you be okay seeing it in a preseason game? Yes, yeah, 1072 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 1: let's go. I think saddle up again. And it's I mean, 1073 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,279 Speaker 1: everybody's excited for the preseason when it gets here because 1074 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 1: it's been so long since we've seen football, but like 1075 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,759 Speaker 1: by week two you're over it. So again three week four. 1076 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 1: Give me a reason to be more intrigued by these 1077 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 1: preseason games, Like, give me a reason for them to 1078 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 1: like try all that stuff out. And unless that that 1079 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,719 Speaker 1: going for two or I mean that that on site 1080 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 1: kick is gonna maybe lead to an overtime game, then no, 1081 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,480 Speaker 1: I'm not cool with that. Yeah, no overtime. And if 1082 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,080 Speaker 1: if it you're like down by seven and I'm like 1083 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 1: just kick off, like you don't, like, why do you 1084 00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,319 Speaker 1: get it done? Let's get it out of here? Well, 1085 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 1: Well you're gonna get out of here as well. That's 1086 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 1: gonna do it here for the break. Dave and Nick 1087 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,560 Speaker 1: will be back next week with Derek at MBAR back 1088 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,799 Speaker 1: at the SWBC Mortgage Studios in Frisco. It's been fun 1089 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,880 Speaker 1: filling in with you guys, and of course you can 1090 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:14,680 Speaker 1: catch David and myself on the Draft Show tomorrow eleven o'clock. 1091 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,440 Speaker 1: We'll be here with Bucky Brooks and that'll be a 1092 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 1: whole lot of fun. Wrapping up Day two of the 1093 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,800 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl and then looking ahead today three, the final 1094 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,000 Speaker 1: day that we'll be here for the recent Senior Bowl 1095 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. So for Dave Hellman, nicky Man, I'm 1096 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,400 Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman's saying so long for Mobile Alabama. This is 1097 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,880 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 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