WEBVTT - Ep 357: It's Okay To Love Love And Money

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, hey, we're back.

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<v Speaker 2>We're black brown brown, ambition, ambition, ambition, ambition, Hey.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, importantly, we are not in labor. How are you

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<v Speaker 1>feeling feeling good, feeling great, feeling like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so much anxiety for me on the weekends, and

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<v Speaker 1>just like, give me one more week, one more week,

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<v Speaker 1>one more week. I just moment needs one more week

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<v Speaker 1>to get her stuff together. But I'm no, I'm feeling good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm feeling good. I had a I have some Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I had some meetings this week that I'm excited about,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I just feel like, calendar wise, I'm coasting

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<v Speaker 1>until Homeboy decides to make his debut and I met

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<v Speaker 1>up with a. Actually, I did the thing that I do.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how I make friends. I'm just like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you do this thing, won't be friends like I recommend it.

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<v Speaker 1>But there is this mom at my son's daycare who

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<v Speaker 1>uh so she hades similar work to what I do.

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<v Speaker 1>And anyway, finally I ran into her and we've been

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<v Speaker 1>like texting, maybe we'll get lunch one day, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it never happens. And today I was just like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I got nothing to do. You got nothing to do

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<v Speaker 1>wants with some coffee, and we ended up having such

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<v Speaker 1>a great two hour conversation and one of our one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things we bonded over is being like really fun,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, interesting women who like make friends and are exciting. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and how we're married to like the complete opposite guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and how that's just like the trend because every time

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<v Speaker 1>I hang out with someone who's really awesome, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>and then our husbands can be friends. And then because

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<v Speaker 1>you know us, kind of when we were trying to

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<v Speaker 1>like create it, it never seemed like Superman Darelle needed help.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like a social butterfly.

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<v Speaker 2>Right oddly like not in not in groups, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean, So like you never knew which like

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<v Speaker 2>I would say more so his twinter wereuld totally social

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<v Speaker 2>social Merel's partner Jylene is the opposite. She's like really quiet.

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<v Speaker 3>That makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>So you actually wasn't as like if it's us in

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<v Speaker 2>the house, maybe one or two people, but like you know.

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<v Speaker 1>He definitely was and with his good friends, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was known in the community, so it was like okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So at least my hypothesis stands, Yes, fun exciting women

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<v Speaker 1>attract the opposite, not that they're not fun and exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>You mean like a little quiet I mean, I know

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<v Speaker 2>what you mean, like.

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<v Speaker 1>A little quiet shy. They're not gonna and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>annoying because then you want to hang out as couples

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<v Speaker 1>because it's easy and your kids are there and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>But then the guys just I'm just like, yeah, if

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<v Speaker 1>we get them together, they're not going to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>each other, because like that's the kind of guys there,

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<v Speaker 1>or if they do talk to each other, then they're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to like make the effort to make another

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<v Speaker 1>play date for themselves. And so it's just the wives

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<v Speaker 1>in the background. The wives anyway, us in the background.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your man doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Is he free?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I think that my man might be free? Y'all

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<v Speaker 1>want to, like, let's plan something for them to get

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<v Speaker 1>them out, and so because they need it. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>that they don't want it, they just I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. Guys just start in their thirties and forties,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like just stopping knowing how to create connections socially,

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<v Speaker 1>And yet don't you need it?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I need it more than ever at

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<v Speaker 1>this stage.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I was just talking to one of my closest

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<v Speaker 2>guy friends, and he was saying how he was feeling lonely. No,

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<v Speaker 2>he was like, you know, he moved to Like for

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<v Speaker 2>him to say that mcause he's married, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>say recently recently, maybe within the last like three years

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<v Speaker 2>or so, so semmer recently. And he was just like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, me and my wife we moved to like

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<v Speaker 2>a new city, and you know, like he was just

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<v Speaker 2>like I all my friends because he's around, Like he's

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<v Speaker 2>just like just turning forties, so he's just like all

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<v Speaker 2>my friends are similarly like getting married or having kids,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't see them as much. And he said,

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm being honest, before my wife, he said, I

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<v Speaker 2>realized I wasn't as lonely because I was dating. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you date different people, and then dating is

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<v Speaker 2>not just like you're going out out like with this

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<v Speaker 2>one person. Oftentimes it involves you getting more social. And

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<v Speaker 2>he was just like, and I'm happily mad and I

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<v Speaker 2>love my wife, but I'm like, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>to create these social environments anymore. And you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>was just like, I talked to my guy friends and

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<v Speaker 2>they all say the same thing. I'm feeling a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit lonely, especially.

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<v Speaker 1>As lonely, and it's not good because I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, lonely men are like half of our nation's problem.

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<v Speaker 1>It to you know, all the things that guys do

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<v Speaker 1>when they are not fulfilled themselves. But yeah, I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>that he actually spoke up and talked about it, because Husby,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't even be mentioning this if it hadn't finally

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<v Speaker 1>been a thing that we like have talked about. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we've been here for five years and I've

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<v Speaker 1>been you know, moving and grooving and making my own

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<v Speaker 1>friends because I just I have that nature and I

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<v Speaker 1>really need it, Like I don't want to. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like being isolated, you know, I don't. I keep my distance,

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<v Speaker 1>like I have boundaries, and I'm not the person who

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<v Speaker 1>wants to be friends with everyone. But I need at

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<v Speaker 1>least two good girlfriends, you know, like in my it's

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<v Speaker 1>just someone you can text when you're pissed off. You

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<v Speaker 1>need someone to vent to and connect with for a

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<v Speaker 1>coffee or whatnot. But my therapist, because I ended up

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<v Speaker 1>spending the last session talking a lot about Husby, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's like you know, as hard as it is for

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<v Speaker 1>me to for you to, you know, process this, you're

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<v Speaker 1>actually not in charge of his happiness or his like

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<v Speaker 1>cause me, you know, I'm like, I'm I will think

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<v Speaker 1>things like, oh, should I text his his best friend's

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<v Speaker 1>lash cousin and invite him to go with him to

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<v Speaker 1>this thing that I know he's been invited to, but

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<v Speaker 1>he has an RSVP too, and she's like, you can't.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't be doing that. He's not a toddler. And

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<v Speaker 1>that was tough because I feel like that's what you want.

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<v Speaker 1>You want your partner to be happy, but then you

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<v Speaker 1>can't force it on them. They have to sort of

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<v Speaker 1>come to it on their own, so like, he can't

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<v Speaker 1>just be my project.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just having a.

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<v Speaker 2>Back. I mean, since we're talking about relationships, I've just

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<v Speaker 2>been missing being part of a rid Now look at

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<v Speaker 2>me and they's face like, ah, are you doing this?

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<v Speaker 1>We gonna see how far we take this.

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<v Speaker 2>I missed being a control part of like being part

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't I know if I'm not ready for partnership.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not, but certainly I miss being you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>in a loving relationship, you know, like somebody you hear

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<v Speaker 2>some people say like, man, if this don't work out

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<v Speaker 2>with this person, I'll never go back to a relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't feel that, you know, because you know, at

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<v Speaker 2>least the space where Girell and I were in when

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<v Speaker 2>he passed away, you know, it was really good. And

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<v Speaker 2>I missed that feeling of like I call it a

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<v Speaker 2>shorness of love. You know, like the world could be

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<v Speaker 2>giving you their whole behind a kiss, but I had

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<v Speaker 2>like the sureness of love at home, even when I

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<v Speaker 2>got on his nerves, even when you know I didn't clean.

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<v Speaker 1>Up or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I know one thing you lab me you would, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going around.

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<v Speaker 1>I missed that surreness of the best when you can

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<v Speaker 1>be your most obnoxious version of yourself and you you

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<v Speaker 1>just find ways to be obnoxious to that partner and

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<v Speaker 1>you know that you're doing it on purpose and your

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<v Speaker 1>is that the shortness of love?

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<v Speaker 2>I remember once, like I was in the car with

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<v Speaker 2>him one time and he's like, oh, you want to drive?

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<v Speaker 2>I said, fine. In his car and I pulled down

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<v Speaker 2>the Advisor and like one of my old cards, like

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<v Speaker 2>Valentine's Ay card or whatever, came out, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>what is this doing here. He was like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to say. I'm like, why why do you have

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<v Speaker 2>this all Valentine'sday card? He was like, because whenever we

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<v Speaker 2>get in a fight, I come in the car and

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<v Speaker 2>I read it to be like she does still love me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, and then I got so bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, that's so evil, Tiffany. This made us in

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<v Speaker 1>the car like she love me, sweet soul. I know

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't a sweet soul.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just was like so all in all, like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I kind of missed that, and so I

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<v Speaker 2>told myself, like it's been it'll be a year in November,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's been like over a year and a half

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<v Speaker 2>or about a year and a half. And I said

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to like join some of these apps.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm quickly off them. I don't know how you can

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<v Speaker 2>just do it. Honestly, I don't know how I really

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<v Speaker 2>do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Girl, I don't know either.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be I'd be just as out of it as you.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I mean, I met Enrique on an app,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was my only day.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I need to be I need to be at

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<v Speaker 2>Whole Food to something because I'm so one. I made

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<v Speaker 2>the mistake because it was an older black lady that

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, I found such a great guy. So

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<v Speaker 2>nice of that. And I was like, well, I'm actually

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<v Speaker 2>not looking for like partnership. I don't even know if I'm

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<v Speaker 2>looking at date, just maybe like hanging out. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>She told me black people meet dot com?

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<v Speaker 1>Which girl, if you're not? I told my dad is

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<v Speaker 1>on Say your daddy is on there. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>because I had not.

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<v Speaker 2>My dad is on there.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I know everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Away, everybody's dead, everybody Uncle Earl is on the air, and.

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<v Speaker 1>They are happy to see you. I know they were

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<v Speaker 1>were your dms, but ooh, I bet they were lighting

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<v Speaker 1>up like a radio station.

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<v Speaker 2>I was having a really hard nights. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna make a profile and whatever and then

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<v Speaker 2>I can disable in the morning. Woke up two hundred messages.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I'm not all surprised. I had to literally

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<v Speaker 2>check the see that I uploaded the naked picture of

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<v Speaker 2>by mistake. I was like, because what is going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody was in there looked like their name was Tyrone,

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<v Speaker 2>and they smoked black like Newport.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, average age fifty five, exactly average gudge, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody was like, hey, baby girl, just want to say

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<v Speaker 2>that you're so beautiful girl, just and some people message

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<v Speaker 2>me twice. I said, I just woke up. Did you

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<v Speaker 2>get my message? Queen? Just wanted to let you know

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm so serious about it. I'm like, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>I quick like they think.

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<v Speaker 1>That they're on quiet storms. That's kind of the vibe

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<v Speaker 1>of like how they're reading them, and you can just

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<v Speaker 1>you can just smell that your car noir cologne just

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<v Speaker 1>emanating from the screen.

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<v Speaker 3>I bet.

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<v Speaker 2>I just was like no, no, no, no, no, no

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<v Speaker 2>no no. So I quickly disabled, and then I also

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<v Speaker 2>joined Hinge, which slightly better because you can kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like set like your age range or whatever. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I quickly got like spooked because it was just like

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<v Speaker 2>so decent looking and seeming people were reaching out and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, actually, no, I'm not. I'm not. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not not like it was baby told And then like okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so I've disabled my why mey? I paid for three

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<v Speaker 2>months a hinch, so I don't know if this is disabled,

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<v Speaker 2>but I took it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you pay for Hinge, yeah, you pay for it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. And so I took it off my phone

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<v Speaker 2>and I was just like, uh, I you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>was good to but I'm not. I'm not, I'm not,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I don't know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a catch as soon as you choose an app,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be no.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so strange. So when I was actually was talking

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<v Speaker 2>to my friend about this earlier today, that dating has

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<v Speaker 2>like pulled up old trauma that I had when I

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<v Speaker 2>was in my late teens and early twenties, and I

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<v Speaker 2>really hated the way I looked. I hated it because

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<v Speaker 2>like it was like a really ad time when I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, but like being like dark skin was like

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it was. I remember my first boyfriend. He

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<v Speaker 2>was really light, well light, yeah, he was light, but

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<v Speaker 2>his whole family.

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<v Speaker 1>Was very light.

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<v Speaker 2>He was West Indian and the first time I met

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<v Speaker 2>his mom, she came around the corner and her face

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<v Speaker 2>fell and she was like, I was like wait what

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<v Speaker 2>And I knew instantly and then she was barely civil. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't have been more than nineteen, so I was

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<v Speaker 2>like a baby. She called him like like abruptly into

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<v Speaker 2>the kitchen and I heard her and she said, why

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<v Speaker 2>would you bring that black thing in here? That black thing,

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm not somebody's child. And I remember being so

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<v Speaker 2>I just I went through a phase where I used

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<v Speaker 2>to cover my face when I was like a like

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<v Speaker 2>a late team because I was I felt like the

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<v Speaker 2>way I looked was offensive to others? Isn't that just?

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<v Speaker 2>And it's crazy because I didn't get that at home

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<v Speaker 2>and like Nigerian culture, that's not like you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>I like the standard of beauty, you know, like that's

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<v Speaker 2>the I'm not outside of the standard of beauty like

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<v Speaker 2>like every like I'm the average skin complexion for a

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<v Speaker 2>Nigerian but like you know, I'm not gonna lie. I

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<v Speaker 2>told you so.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry, baby Tiffany, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And honestly, but lately because of this like thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>what it might feel like to date again or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>it's come up again. Well I feel like like forty

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<v Speaker 2>three year old Tiffany is like girl, but then nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>year Oldiviany's like, but what if people don't think you're attractive?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? And I've just been really struggled with actually

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<v Speaker 2>have doctor Green and like, you know, like and like

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<v Speaker 2>my therapist next week because I want to ask her,

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<v Speaker 2>like why is this coming up? Because I have, I've

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<v Speaker 2>not unfelt like not confident, you know what I mean, Girl,

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<v Speaker 2>I go lie, no eyebrowszone, no look gloss on. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>on the cover of my book.

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<v Speaker 1>I do TV.

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<v Speaker 2>But then this like I don't know, this phase of

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<v Speaker 2>potentially thinking about what it might be like to date

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<v Speaker 2>again all of a sudden, nineteen year old Tifany's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here with some of your past traumas, and what

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<v Speaker 2>if you're not good enough? What if people don't find

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<v Speaker 2>you attractive, what if you're still too dark? What if

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<v Speaker 2>you know it's too fit? I mean, like all these

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<v Speaker 2>things coming up, and it's just ugh, like I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna I boohoot about it. This morning, I mean I

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<v Speaker 2>was crying about it this morning. I was just like,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't feel that way at forty three. But

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes it's like you're not the only Tiffany present, you know, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, what do you know? What do I

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<v Speaker 2>need to tell her? But I just she all have

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<v Speaker 2>to say that, like it's a process, and like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>what it tells me is that, like, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>considering that life doesn does go on, you know, And

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<v Speaker 2>I will never not love Darrell and whoever I'm with,

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<v Speaker 2>I got a double lot, so I'm being married bury

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<v Speaker 2>my husband. So even if I get married again, you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be in for a root awakening.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, so you know where you're gonna be parked?

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<v Speaker 2>Girl, Like, I'm like, he's like my baby. Wait, what

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<v Speaker 2>she's gonna be with Girell? Yes, always up forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, money over there, but in the same neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think that, like, yeah, I just I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just trying to figure out what life looks like.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that that definitely is something like I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>and if I tell you some of the crazy things

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<v Speaker 2>that people have said to me, black women, especially dark

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<v Speaker 2>skinned black women with traditional black features, the way the world,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not even I would prefer if maybe you were

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<v Speaker 2>ignored the way you don't even get ignored. It's literally

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<v Speaker 2>like a harassment. Like literally there are videos now that

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<v Speaker 2>like like if I do the real or I did

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<v Speaker 2>like Jennifer Hudson, and like there were some comments that

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<v Speaker 2>were like she looks like Wesley Snipes. I'm like, like,

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<v Speaker 2>forty three year old Tifany is like you jealous basically

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<v Speaker 2>you seeing me on the EV or whatever. But nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>year old Tiffany is like, oh my god, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and so like it's it's so crazy, this

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<v Speaker 2>psychotomy because like I said, forty three year old Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 2>I just you know, doesn't feel like that. Like I

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<v Speaker 2>actually like the way I look, you know, like I

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<v Speaker 2>love I mean, I honestly love the complexion of my skin.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that I have full lips.

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<v Speaker 1>I love these.

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<v Speaker 2>Cheek poems that Africa has given me. But nineteen year

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<v Speaker 2>old Tiffany is like, I wish I look like everybody else.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know why she's come back, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not always, but she's been poking her head in and

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<v Speaker 2>so yeah, it's just like I just wanted to give

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<v Speaker 2>you guys kind of like this kind of life update

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<v Speaker 2>that like Chad, I don't know, like these man's just

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<v Speaker 2>going to have to pick me up at Whole Foods

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm just so even though like you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>post your pictures or whatever you like, everybody knows what

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<v Speaker 2>you look like. Still I'm just like I have this

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<v Speaker 2>anxiety of like what if I meet My biggest fear

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<v Speaker 2>is that I meet somebody. Not my biggest fear, but

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<v Speaker 2>a fear is my nineteen year old Tiffany fears that

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<v Speaker 2>you meet somebody in person and the same look that

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<v Speaker 2>my ex boyfriend's mother gave me.

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<v Speaker 1>They give me like that look of like, what.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this black thing doing it? You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Even though I know that's not true. How could you not?

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<v Speaker 3>I know?

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<v Speaker 1>But how could you not be impacted by something so cruel?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? You know, and.

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<v Speaker 1>How could you not? And I also feel like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you have gotten to where you are in your business,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not like the kind of business where it's

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<v Speaker 1>about your looks. And obviously Jarelle loved you and everything

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<v Speaker 1>about you, and I think maybe dating has just brought

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<v Speaker 1>you back to that place where when are in our

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<v Speaker 1>early teens and twenties, it does feel like you are

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<v Speaker 1>like you, you should be attracting, you should be attractive

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<v Speaker 1>to others, and you I always felt inadequate because I

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<v Speaker 1>was never the girl with any boyfriends or anyone calling me,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, no one wanting to like ask me out,

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<v Speaker 1>and all my friends would and like that girl still

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<v Speaker 1>is a little bit inside for sure, And I think

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I like the way that you even phrase it,

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<v Speaker 1>like as she's a separate person, but she's still worth

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<v Speaker 1>like listening to and it's almost like, how do what

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<v Speaker 1>do we say to her to sort of put her

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<v Speaker 1>at ease and heal that? Heal that woman, young woman.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm glad that you're going to be talking to

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Green about it and just talking about it here,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think so many of us.

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<v Speaker 3>Have.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, those insecurities are things people said. Girl twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, my mom said, why are you doing? Why

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<v Speaker 1>are you working out? Your thighs are already big enough.

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<v Speaker 1>I love you, mom, But she's a white woman who

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<v Speaker 1>had a girl who had a daughter with thick thus

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<v Speaker 1>and it made me feel like they had to go away.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, God, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>I just yeah, I just it's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I wear shorts now. That took a long time for

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<v Speaker 1>me to wear shorts.

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<v Speaker 2>And meanwhile, I wish y'all could have seen Mandy at Berna.

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<v Speaker 2>So we both went to Berna. I'm not is I

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<v Speaker 2>Hena's last name. I think it's a nat that I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, And so hey, Berna, that's that's her, like

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<v Speaker 2>social media name. She's got a new book called Money

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<v Speaker 2>Out Loud, and we're so proud of her. So I

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<v Speaker 2>did a like I guess you could say, like a

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<v Speaker 2>fireside chat on her day of launch the last Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 2>and Mandy was there and she was wearing this like

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<v Speaker 2>purple pink.

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<v Speaker 1>She looked so freaking radiant, and I just love the

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<v Speaker 1>way people were like the two of you to kill.

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<v Speaker 2>I just love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so fun.

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<v Speaker 1>And I always feel like I get to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like lurk behind you and and you know, get to

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<v Speaker 1>benefit from your your shine train that just follows you.

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<v Speaker 1>I get to like get some because some of that

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<v Speaker 1>sunshine too. People were so sweet and thank you because

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<v Speaker 1>that's my uniform dress. Now if I leave the house,

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<v Speaker 1>you will see me in that pink sweater dress because

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<v Speaker 1>it is like the one of two things that fits me.

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<v Speaker 1>So if I have to be seen from the waist down,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what she's going to be wearing.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, it was so pretty. I was like, man, it

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<v Speaker 2>just looks so pretty. She just looked like glowing, and

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<v Speaker 2>the dress was like such a good like like what's

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<v Speaker 2>her name that came on that was like like the

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<v Speaker 2>colors that are good for our complexions and things.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, Kendra, Kendra, so yeah, so yeah, so you

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<v Speaker 1>just so you guys will hear about here from in

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<v Speaker 1>the later episode, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she like I was like, Kench would be like, yes, girl,

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<v Speaker 2>this is one of your class.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, you just looked really beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was just like, oh so yeah, yeah that's

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<v Speaker 2>my update. I'm like, so you know, I'm running back

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<v Speaker 2>to my cave. But at least I you know, my

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<v Speaker 2>baby toes dipping and I mean, like your girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Still got it, cause I was like, well, damn, okay. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's a lot of people, and because you're

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<v Speaker 1>well known a Newark too, I just know that there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of men who are just like Tiffany making

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<v Speaker 1>any signs of I hope they don't listen to the

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<v Speaker 1>show because they're gonna hear that you're maybe you know,

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<v Speaker 1>peeking out you what's out there, and then your dam.

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<v Speaker 2>Friends, kids and cousins are like, sell my brother. I'm like, girl,

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<v Speaker 2>just honestly, I kind of a prop for it. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>someone who just knows me is like, because what I

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<v Speaker 2>put on the social apps is like I'm a teacher.

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<v Speaker 2>But every once in a while, like someone hit me

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday because I sometimes.

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<v Speaker 3>I check all interesting okay, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Then people will say like the one guy was like

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<v Speaker 2>I love you work with financial education.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like the late I don't know, really, why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you want them to know? I don't know, because

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<v Speaker 1>why would you diminish your your I mean not that

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<v Speaker 1>teachers diminished, you know what I mean, but like you're

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<v Speaker 1>not just a teacher.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, but I kind of just want to get

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<v Speaker 2>someone to know, somebody like as just like Tiffany, not

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<v Speaker 2>like the budgetista. You know so well.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that you attract men who are prepared to

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<v Speaker 1>be with the budgetista because when they find out what

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<v Speaker 1>you do do, they're going to need to have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of confidence, a lot of respect for a badass woman.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>This actually brings up for me something that I've wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to I've had it on my list of like brown breaks,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have and I wonder how you feel about

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<v Speaker 1>this too. Every once in a while, I think on

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok or social media, someone will post and be like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I would I you know, I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>want to share about my personal relationship because maybe they've

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<v Speaker 1>been single for a while and now they're with someone.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just know if I post it, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to get so much more engagement. I'm going to get

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<v Speaker 1>so many likes. I don't want to and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to do it because I just feel like, isn't

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<v Speaker 1>it you know, why am I not getting this that

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<v Speaker 1>much engagement for my business, you know, at my business

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<v Speaker 1>strategy or my business milestones and things like that. And

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<v Speaker 1>while I get it and I see it. Hell, I

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<v Speaker 1>post something on my anniversary with old ass pictures of

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<v Speaker 1>me from six years ago, and it's like I went viral,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. But and I and I understand, as women,

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<v Speaker 1>you you kind of like resist that, like being celebrated

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<v Speaker 1>for being like being a being attractive enough to get

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<v Speaker 1>a man or get a person or be in a relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>And what does it say about you if you can't

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<v Speaker 1>or you don't by choice. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>like the way that I feel about it is it's

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<v Speaker 1>so universal. Love partnership, companionship who at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, I do feel like humans, the vast majority

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<v Speaker 1>of us are meant to be with someone and have

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<v Speaker 1>a partner whoever that whatever that person looks like, and

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's not even a love partner but a companion

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, just someone that you can experience and

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<v Speaker 1>share life with. And it's so it's so universal that

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<v Speaker 1>we all desire and it's not a thing it's wrong

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<v Speaker 1>to desire that. And I just feel like, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>so universal, of course it's the thing that people really

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<v Speaker 1>relate to and they want to. Like, it's not as

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<v Speaker 1>relatable as getting a New York Times bestselling book or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, launching a business people like that. But I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like when it's love, you know, or even expanding

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<v Speaker 1>your family, like it's just such a special, beautiful experience

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<v Speaker 1>that so many of us can share that I understand

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<v Speaker 1>why it gets more attention, and I just don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't like that we're kind of getting into that

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<v Speaker 1>space where if you do share that that you are

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<v Speaker 1>diminishing your own success or like pandering to people to

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<v Speaker 1>give them what you think that they want.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm not making any sense.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you are, because I want I saw the phone

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<v Speaker 2>when I saw your comment that, I was like, look

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<v Speaker 2>at me, diyat here Meanwhile like.

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<v Speaker 1>The two No, you do be paying attention. Well you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's rad.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I'd never gone TikTok. But then the post came

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<v Speaker 2>up and then I looked in the comments. I said,

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<v Speaker 2>look at me, Andre, given good advice, would you basically said, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>share anyway, like it's a beautiful thing.

0:22:50.600 --> 0:22:51.040
<v Speaker 1>You said that.

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<v Speaker 2>You were like, don't hold back, like don't let anyone

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<v Speaker 2>not let you share, Like that's awesome. But yeah, I think, No,

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<v Speaker 2>you're right, I think and I could see their point

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<v Speaker 2>of view as well, because it's true. I never got

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<v Speaker 2>more posts. And when I posted me and Jirell like

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<v Speaker 2>the truth is, I used to lean into it. I'm like, girl,

0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:09.680
<v Speaker 2>I need some especially like if a brand partner would

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<v Speaker 2>pay me. I'm like, Jerrell, come take this picture with me,

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<v Speaker 2>like he and I both want to raise our credit

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<v Speaker 2>score with this credit monitoring draw.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I knew that.

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<v Speaker 2>Because people, to your point, they love love and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so I knew literally I would that was that was

0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:27.680
<v Speaker 2>a tactic to be like, girl, you want three or

0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:30.080
<v Speaker 2>four thousand. You know most of the comments will be like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh I love y'all. I'm like, yeah, focus on the tool.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just say all that to say that certainly,

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<v Speaker 2>you know you can be as private or as public

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<v Speaker 2>as as you like, and you know that's up to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't think that moving forward, if I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how life is, you know what life is

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<v Speaker 2>going to I don't know. I At first, I used

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<v Speaker 2>to be really public with my relationship with Drell, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's when social media was a lot more close knit

0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:57.840
<v Speaker 2>and it was like you know, and then over time

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<v Speaker 2>I started to share less and less only because because

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<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to keep some things for us, and

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<v Speaker 2>I would post him like maybe on his birthday or

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<v Speaker 2>anniversary or whatever. So I just think that if I

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<v Speaker 2>do get into another relationship again, you know, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm I don't I don't think one, I'll post

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<v Speaker 2>as much as I used to post about Jorelle if

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<v Speaker 2>at all. Certainly, I'll share as much as I feel

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<v Speaker 2>comfortable here as I navigate, if that's you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, I'm not ready at all. I need

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<v Speaker 2>to get into my new condo first and get myself

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<v Speaker 2>like like situated and things like that. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>just think that, like, there's nothing wrong with sharing love

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<v Speaker 2>if that's what you want. But I also know that

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<v Speaker 2>in the sharing, you know that people then will feel,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they'll feel like engaged in your life. So

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<v Speaker 2>like I prefer like I was married to Jerrelle, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's like you know, this is your boyfriend and

0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:54.359
<v Speaker 2>then you guys break up, then it's like, well what happened?

0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:54.639
<v Speaker 1>Girl?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I know it's not my business, but you made

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<v Speaker 2>him my business. So I'm like girl.

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<v Speaker 1>And now I'm looking back through old posts and you've

0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:04.800
<v Speaker 1>seen like TikTokers go through divorces and stuff, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like who got the account? You know, who's going to

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<v Speaker 1>get the handle? Now, I for sure I understand those

0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:14.200
<v Speaker 1>those intricacies. I can't even share pictures of E because

0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:16.280
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't take any and he's not fun. He won't

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<v Speaker 1>let me dress him up and take a picture with me.

0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:22.080
<v Speaker 1>It's probably for the better. He's like a government spy,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, he's incognito.

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<v Speaker 2>But the only time the Dure will let me do

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<v Speaker 2>that is when I was like, people like we gotta

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<v Speaker 2>get this money, I'm like yes, He's like.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, that's actually not a bad idea. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>very protective of my son, like I don't want lots

0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 1>of pictures of him out, but at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, I just feel so happy with all aspects.

0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 1>I just don't want it's we talk about brad Ambition,

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<v Speaker 1>where we talk about achieving your business and your financial

0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:51.520
<v Speaker 1>dreams and your career goals and all of that. But

0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:55.800
<v Speaker 1>I think, at least for me, that's just not enough.

0:25:55.920 --> 0:26:02.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, I want partnership, Yeah, connectedness, people, humans and hell.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to be sensitive to people who don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>the same way, but at least I feel like, you know,

0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:15.879
<v Speaker 1>there's so much shit out there. Like I got on

0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Instagram earlier, the first damn story I saw was about

0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:22.440
<v Speaker 1>a baby who drowned, and I'm just like, you know,

0:26:22.880 --> 0:26:25.359
<v Speaker 1>if you have some good news to share, whatever it is, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just wish we would lean into sharing that light

0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 1>because if we all shared more light, maybe it would,

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:32.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, get some of this darkness out of the way,

0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:35.959
<v Speaker 1>get some of the shadows lit up, especially now. So

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<v Speaker 1>I choose to continue to be a part of that

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<v Speaker 1>as much as I can. Yeah, it's okay. It's okay

0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:45.040
<v Speaker 1>to love love and love money.

0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:46.320
<v Speaker 2>I like them love.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to say which.

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<v Speaker 1>More cause I don't know what I'm supposed to say,

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<v Speaker 1>but and that'll be the clip that it will be

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<v Speaker 1>post on social and people will grow me for it.

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:59.080
<v Speaker 2>But no, I like them binns and love is so

0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:01.760
<v Speaker 2>important and so like it's not Yeah, it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>Money, so this was a mushy. Should we take a break? Yeah,

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:10.200
<v Speaker 1>let's take a break. I gotta take this jacket off,

0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:11.880
<v Speaker 1>not because you tease me for it, but because there's

0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:14.240
<v Speaker 1>so many zippers that I'm having a hard time moving

0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:20.640
<v Speaker 1>because I'm like, they're gonna be mad. I was told, y'all, we.

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:28.400
<v Speaker 2>Will be back with brown break brown booze, and we're

0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 2>back and black and now it's time to boosto break,

0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh boosto break, oh boosto breakdown? Are you going to booze?

0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Are you going to break? What?

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:46.920
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna do?

0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 1>What you go take?

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't people get to see the rhythm nation shoulders

0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:56.280
<v Speaker 2>that be and Mady be doing like well you can

0:27:56.480 --> 0:27:58.680
<v Speaker 2>if you watch on YouTube, go ahead and watch.

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<v Speaker 3>It was it was and jacket they got me grooving?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you boothy or are you breaking?

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<v Speaker 3>Boost? One is?

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<v Speaker 1>I got out the dress. I got out the house

0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:11.680
<v Speaker 1>this weekend and I wore that dress because that's my

0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 1>going out dress. It's the same one that you saw

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:16.879
<v Speaker 1>me in. And I met up in person with about

0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:19.159
<v Speaker 1>ten or twelve of my nandy money makers in New

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:22.520
<v Speaker 1>York and we had such a lovely they they brave

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 1>y'all know, black women getting out in the rain and

0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:27.240
<v Speaker 1>torrential downpour rain. Yeah, it was crazy and I thy.

0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:31.200
<v Speaker 1>So I got them together as like a last minute,

0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:34.280
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to meet and get to talk to them.

0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 1>And it was so lovely. As much as my business

0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:40.480
<v Speaker 1>as virtual, I love the opportunity to get to meet

0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:44.480
<v Speaker 1>my people in person. So to everyone who braved the elements,

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 1>drove from Long Island to Manhattan, like from Westchester down,

0:28:48.920 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 1>it was a lot. So I just thank y'all. And

0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 1>it was beautiful. It was a really beautiful time. And

0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:57.239
<v Speaker 1>every time I plan an event and people show up,

0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I heal that Like thirteen year old girl who had

0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:02.320
<v Speaker 1>a surprise party, no one came to speaking about healing

0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:05.280
<v Speaker 1>our our young sol. I want to go and be like,

0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:09.440
<v Speaker 1>I want to come. I would have been. No one came, Tiffany,

0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 1>they didn't have Uber back then. No one came.

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 2>About the house anyway, right, No, I love that. I

0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:22.360
<v Speaker 2>I too am going to I guess it's kind of

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 2>like a boot slash break because today I finally submitted

0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:31.680
<v Speaker 2>the final draft. I pray to Jesus teenage, Jesus, no man, Jesus, baby,

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Jesus all to Jesus of my workbook version of gek

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 2>Go with Money. It's called Made Whole. It's a get

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:43.719
<v Speaker 2>Go with Money workbook. And I mistakenly thought that when

0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:46.360
<v Speaker 2>you do the workbook version of your book, it's.

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Like less work still in the blanks, it actually was.

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:54.440
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't. I mean, I wouldn't say it was as

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:57.040
<v Speaker 2>much work as Get Go with Money, but not half

0:29:57.720 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 2>you know.

0:29:58.040 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Not not work.

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was a lot of And so because I wanted,

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:04.920
<v Speaker 2>you know that if you read Geka with Money that

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 2>you were like, oh, here's some additional added resources and

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 2>benefit and whatever. But then I wondered, if you didn't

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:15.120
<v Speaker 2>read Giga with Money, you're missing out on critical things

0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 2>in order to reach financial wholeness in these ten core steps.

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 2>So it was like this balancing it that was not easy.

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Plus two, you know, gig Go with Money is literally

0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:26.200
<v Speaker 2>like a textbook. It's a big, hardy book. And I

0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:29.360
<v Speaker 2>really wanted Made Whole to really be like, you know,

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 2>not to be as dense, because I want you to

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:32.720
<v Speaker 2>be able to get to the work. Put it in

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:34.800
<v Speaker 2>your bag, get to the work. I made sure that

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:37.240
<v Speaker 2>it was wider so when you lay it open, you

0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:40.320
<v Speaker 2>can like write in it. And so yeah, so Madhole

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:43.000
<v Speaker 2>is going to come out in November. It's available for

0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 2>pre order like everywhere, you know, but it doesn't come

0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 2>out to November, so you know, do what that would

0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 2>you will? But yeah, so I'm just really it was

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:53.560
<v Speaker 2>such a relief because when something like that, I mean

0:30:53.600 --> 0:30:55.680
<v Speaker 2>many you know, like as you're working on a big

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 2>old project, it's it's looming, it's looming. And to finally

0:30:58.880 --> 0:31:00.920
<v Speaker 2>submit it this morning, I.

0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Was like, oh my god, can this be the end?

0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Place?

0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:05.120
<v Speaker 1>It was like last bit edits cluse.

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:08.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm just it just anybody who thinks that they want

0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 2>to write a book know that it's a lot of

0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:14.640
<v Speaker 2>work and it feels really good when it's done. But

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 2>it's a lot of work, you know, and so and

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 2>just it could be like a lot of stress and

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 2>so yeah, so it's like a boost that it's done

0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:24.360
<v Speaker 2>and a break because I'm like, I don't I don't

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:26.000
<v Speaker 2>anticipate in writing anything.

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 1>For a while.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry Penguin, Oh, because.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised, because yeah, because you were so out of

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<v Speaker 1>it about that was huge.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm done.

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<v Speaker 1>But the workbook, I agree, it does kind of sound like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like, I don't know. I just figured it

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<v Speaker 1>was like a journal entry thing they got girl, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot light workbook. And I was like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>not a little Did you have to negotiate a new deal?

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<v Speaker 3>How does that work?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>So what I happened with the workbook is that you

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<v Speaker 2>negotiate a new deal and the amount obviously it's less

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<v Speaker 2>typically because you know, like a book book is different

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<v Speaker 2>than like, you know, like a work book, because I

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<v Speaker 2>think I think the stat that Penguin gave me is

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<v Speaker 2>that they anticipate usually your workbook will sell about twenty

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<v Speaker 2>percent of what your book sold, you know, so you're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to get the same. So I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>that the numbers have to correlate between what you got,

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<v Speaker 2>like your book deal. Let's just say you got one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand dollars book deal, and the workbook deal might

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<v Speaker 2>be twenty like twenty thousand dollars. Not really, it really

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<v Speaker 2>will depend on how well your book did and how

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<v Speaker 2>what you can negotiate. And certainly, you know, I negotiated

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<v Speaker 2>like I got. I spoke to some of my friends

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<v Speaker 2>who had workbooks and understood kind of like how the

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<v Speaker 2>workbook game worked. And so the amount that they gave

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<v Speaker 2>me was similar to what I was first offered, but

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<v Speaker 2>I just felt like, this seems low for someone who's

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<v Speaker 2>slaying in the streets right now. And so I spoke

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<v Speaker 2>to one of my This is why mentorship is so important.

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<v Speaker 2>I spoke to one of my mentors, Lynette cal Fonie Cox.

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<v Speaker 2>She's everyone's financial fairy godmother.

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<v Speaker 1>She's so awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>And Lynette actually did the math with me. I had

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<v Speaker 2>never done book math. Hey, book bath will have you

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<v Speaker 2>mad at your advance If you said yeah, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>hold up, hold up. So with book match, she had

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<v Speaker 2>me figure out, like, okay, how many books I sold,

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<v Speaker 2>how much roughly Penguin made based upon the books I sold,

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<v Speaker 2>which the truth of the matter is and advance is

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<v Speaker 2>money you get to keep no matter what. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>no guarantee I'll pay it back. Oh but I paid

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<v Speaker 2>my advent and I had.

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<v Speaker 3>A good advance, did you ever?

0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 2>And so I paid by advanced time about six So

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<v Speaker 2>hanging right now is like, that's our girl, sady.

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<v Speaker 1>So she was like that you have some leverage to say.

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<v Speaker 2>I know normally you give this kind of money for workbooks,

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<v Speaker 2>but you ain't talking to no regular degular, I need

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more, and so Lynnette gave me a

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<v Speaker 2>number that she said I would not take less than this,

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<v Speaker 2>And so I told them me and my book agent,

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<v Speaker 2>this is why your agent is so important. We talked

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<v Speaker 2>through it, and my agent not only got me what

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<v Speaker 2>Lynette said, but more so, I would say it was

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<v Speaker 2>about four times more than a workbook normally gets. Like

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<v Speaker 2>it was about the as it should Yes, basically my

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<v Speaker 2>book book. My advance was about what you would like

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<v Speaker 2>a good advance for a book. That's how I work,

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<v Speaker 2>Rahma to our workbook advance was like if you got

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<v Speaker 2>this for a regular book, you'd be like, I got

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<v Speaker 2>a really good advance, So I feel good about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Which like twenty percent of your book sales are even

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<v Speaker 1>still above what a regular book sells, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Like, Yeah, what's the staff that you share,

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<v Speaker 1>like over the life tome of a book that usually shares.

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<v Speaker 2>Like cells less than two thousand copy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean the average book the cells are less

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<v Speaker 1>than two thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>We're like, I like two seventy five now two years later, and.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm glad that they got an opportunity to renegotiate

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<v Speaker 1>or negotiate as a separate thing, whereas I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if publishers are going to get like wise

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<v Speaker 1>to that and start trying to incorporate the workbook into

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<v Speaker 1>the initial deal before you know how success.

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<v Speaker 2>They do try they did, they would try to loup

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:44.319
<v Speaker 2>everything together and then and that's a whole lot because

0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:47.880
<v Speaker 2>they were like, how about your workbook and whatever magical

0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:49.240
<v Speaker 2>book that you might want to do in the future,

0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, well, I don't even know that

0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:52.400
<v Speaker 2>I want to. I mean, I know one day I

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<v Speaker 2>probably will write another book, but I don't even know

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 2>what's she going to be about. I don't know who

0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:57.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be. I might have a show girl,

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<v Speaker 2>might be the president of the United State.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope it's about your experience Black people meet dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>One man persistently every week, I'm like, mister Earle, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want I don't want to see awl.

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<v Speaker 1>If you see anyone named big al topcat Alton, stay away,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say I'll give his name while my uncle.

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<v Speaker 2>Every week, baby girl, I don't know if you see

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<v Speaker 2>I sing mister Earl, I sing I stuff exactly, but

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<v Speaker 2>like yeah, so yeah, So it's just like the book.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the book industry. It's interesting. And so because

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<v Speaker 2>I know a lot of people would be like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>aren't you mad that you know you made them more

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<v Speaker 2>money than you received. No, because one, with your first book,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know what it's going to do. I don't care.

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:44.200
<v Speaker 2>You could be famous, you could be not famous.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't.

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<v Speaker 2>No one knows. And so that advances your money to

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<v Speaker 2>keep no matter what, because you can literally get one

0:35:49.640 --> 0:35:52.760
<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand dollars advance and only make them two dollars

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 2>and they will let you keep that hundred thousand. They'll

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:58.319
<v Speaker 2>be mad and you won't get another hundred. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>how that works. And so you the way it advance

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<v Speaker 2>works is that you pay it off. Now, the thing

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<v Speaker 2>is what I didn't understand with book math Hey, is

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<v Speaker 2>that book math says? I thought, at first, let's just

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<v Speaker 2>say my book was ten dollars, and let's just say

0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:14.000
<v Speaker 2>my advance was one hundred thousand. I thought for every

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<v Speaker 2>ten dollars book I sold, I would chip down what

0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:19.560
<v Speaker 2>I owed in the advance by ten dollars. Like, sold

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<v Speaker 2>ten dollars, book ten dollars comes off the one hundred

0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:24.279
<v Speaker 2>thousand that I owe you no, no, no, no no.

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<v Speaker 2>So typically your like, you get a cut of sales

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<v Speaker 2>once you pay back your advance, and that can range

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere from like ten to fifteen percent, right, so let's

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<v Speaker 2>just say ten percent. So if a book sells for

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<v Speaker 2>ten dollars, ten percent of ten dollars is one dollar.

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:44.160
<v Speaker 2>And if that's your cut that you would get once

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<v Speaker 2>you pay back your advance, you are only lowering the

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:50.480
<v Speaker 2>one hundred thousand that you owe per book a dollar

0:36:51.000 --> 0:36:52.839
<v Speaker 2>for every book that you sell.

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<v Speaker 1>So you see how long you have to say, yeah,

0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:59.320
<v Speaker 1>I made that math equation. That math that's something beneficial

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<v Speaker 1>to the publisher.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, we haven't sold out my advance yet,

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:08.920
<v Speaker 2>because I girl, I've literally my book has made millions,

0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:12.080
<v Speaker 2>pot millions, and so my advance was not millions. So

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<v Speaker 2>but like I said, that was I'm not mad at

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<v Speaker 2>it because I still got a really good advance and

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<v Speaker 2>it was still relatively like I mean for a book

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<v Speaker 2>that was going to be unknown for what it's going

0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:23.920
<v Speaker 2>to do. But now that we know that it's very

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:26.640
<v Speaker 2>likely to sell, now we can negotiate differently. And so

0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:28.960
<v Speaker 2>like my next advance if I do another big book,

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<v Speaker 2>definitely will reflect the fact that, like I've sold before,

0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:34.879
<v Speaker 2>and so these are things like you know, to I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>my agent does say, like, well, if you wait too long,

0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:39.640
<v Speaker 2>they might say, well, you sold that, but that was

0:37:39.640 --> 0:37:41.080
<v Speaker 2>five years ago. I'm like, girl, I don't care about

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:44.120
<v Speaker 2>not that you know, like I get it, but like

0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:46.759
<v Speaker 2>I you know, if I write another book, you know,

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:48.520
<v Speaker 2>then I do. But maybe by then I might have

0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:50.920
<v Speaker 2>the top Netflix show in the in the world, you

0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:52.360
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. Like, so I don't want to

0:37:52.400 --> 0:37:55.120
<v Speaker 2>lock myself into like a number now and not know

0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:58.040
<v Speaker 2>certainly it might be lower later because maybe later, you know,

0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:01.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm you know, I'm not as vie and that's fine,

0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 2>but maybe I'm even more viable if I decide to

0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:05.399
<v Speaker 2>do something. But yeah, so these are just some things

0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:07.000
<v Speaker 2>that I didn't even know. I mean, meanwhile, I went

0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:09.160
<v Speaker 2>through this whole process and I didn't really understand book

0:38:09.200 --> 0:38:13.040
<v Speaker 2>Math until Lynetteki Finick Cocks broke it down for me.

0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, oh, And she said, that's why

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna go back and say you want more money

0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 2>because book Math is like no, girl, Like, in order

0:38:21.239 --> 0:38:22.960
<v Speaker 2>for you to have paid them back what you made,

0:38:23.080 --> 0:38:25.240
<v Speaker 2>they had to make millions about millions of five millions

0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:27.400
<v Speaker 2>before you can pay back what you made. And I'm like,

0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:31.759
<v Speaker 2>oh okay, and so like now I finally have paid

0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:33.960
<v Speaker 2>it back. It took about two years. And so now

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<v Speaker 2>my next statement, I think you get it twice a year.

0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:40.800
<v Speaker 2>I should see my percentage, like I should get a

0:38:40.920 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 2>check now twice. Royalty is now a royalty, yes, which

0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:47.360
<v Speaker 2>is kind of exciting. Yeah, you know, talk about passive income.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. I was like ooh, so like I mean

0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 2>I can imagine for a book for example, like I

0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:54.560
<v Speaker 2>will teach you to be rich that like yeah, it's

0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:57.720
<v Speaker 2>been a twenty years later, that thing is cooking with grease,

0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:00.360
<v Speaker 2>so you know, and even now more so that re

0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:02.120
<v Speaker 2>meat has to show on Netflix, I know, like his

0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:04.800
<v Speaker 2>book has sold out everywhere and so like that's the

0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:07.520
<v Speaker 2>thing about books is like you know, you have to

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<v Speaker 2>really ask us. So even Mandy, as you are navigating,

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:13.080
<v Speaker 2>you will have to ask yourself big advance up front,

0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:17.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, or you know, do I want like you know, negotiating,

0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:19.600
<v Speaker 2>Like I'll give you what my percentage is, so you know,

0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:21.520
<v Speaker 2>like what you're going to ask for because I've gotten

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<v Speaker 2>the top percentage like everyone who I've asked there like,

0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:25.600
<v Speaker 2>that's the most book publisher is going to give you.

0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:28.360
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, okay for as far as your percentage,

0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:30.759
<v Speaker 2>and so like I hope one day what I'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to do one day is have more of a partnership

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<v Speaker 2>with the with the publisher where it's like I'm not getting, like,

0:39:36.600 --> 0:39:38.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, the smaller percentage on the back end that

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<v Speaker 2>like I'd rather get quite honestly, less upfront and then

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<v Speaker 2>more on the back end. Most publishers will tell you

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<v Speaker 2>no one who's going to do that. I'm like, no,

0:39:45.239 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 2>you're not doing that.

0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:48.320
<v Speaker 1>But somebody out there bites.

0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:51.120
<v Speaker 2>So we'll see. I think the publishing industry that there's

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<v Speaker 2>some shifting that has to happen if you want people

0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:56.400
<v Speaker 2>to work with you. So yeah, so as you like navigate,

0:39:56.400 --> 0:39:57.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm excited to hear, like you know where you are

0:39:58.000 --> 0:39:58.760
<v Speaker 2>in your process.

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<v Speaker 3>I for you get to keep paving that way, baby girl,

0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 3>hear my Lynette.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, girl, tell me, it's a lot.

0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:08.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you when I tell you the mouth they

0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:10.720
<v Speaker 2>offered me versus Wellnette, because I was gonna be like, okay,

0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:13.320
<v Speaker 2>this have just said calling that girl before you agree.

0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:15.680
<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna let you know. I'm not sure I'm

0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:16.640
<v Speaker 2>allowed to talk numbers.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we'll get it. We'll get the green tea later.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that girl. Oh I like that degree.

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<v Speaker 3>You so clever. Thank you.

0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:29.000
<v Speaker 1>I washed my hair today and I feel different. I

0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:29.960
<v Speaker 1>feel smart.

0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:31.759
<v Speaker 3>All right, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this was a fun, juicy, juicy episode of Brown Ambition.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see y'all Friday for B, a Q and a.

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<v Speaker 1>Bye bye, Hey, ba fam. We could not do this

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