1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in our number two Clay 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: Travis buck Sexton Show. Encourage all of you to go 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: subscribe Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. You won't miss a 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: moment of being able to consume every single minute of 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: the show broken down by our Also, you'll get Carol Markowitz, 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: you'll get Tutor Dixon and more additions to that podcast 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: universe coming as well as additional commentary from Buck maybe 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: down the line in near future, more from me as well. 10 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: Good stuff. You'll love it and you'll be able to 11 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: hang out. Plus, we all want to say thank you 12 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: to our Clay and Buck VIPs who can now watch 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: all three hours of this program streaming live behind the 14 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: paywall at clayanbuck dot Com. A lot of you there, 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: and we certainly appreciate all of you. A couple of 16 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: different stories that are out there that we want to hit. 17 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: We've been talking about Biden and California, nearly trips, going 18 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: up the stairs, the continued questions about whether or not 19 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: he's going to be the candidate. What in the world's 20 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: going on with Nicki Haley? Why is she still in 21 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: the race. Will break down some of the Donald Trump 22 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: town hall going forward, but buck some of the stories 23 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: out there, I wanted to make sure that we address 24 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: because otherwise you're not gonna hear very much about them. 25 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: And this is one part of that. Everybody reacting last 26 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: week to the shooting that took place at the Kansas 27 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: City Chiefs Super Bowl Parade celebration in Kansas City. Kansas City, 28 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: coming off of the largest number of murders in the 29 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: history of the city, violence has been rampant throughout Kansas City, 30 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: and the shooting appears to have just been a dispute 31 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: between young men, in fact, two young black men. So 32 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: all of the arguments about how we needed more gun control, 33 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: about how we needed to repeal the Second Amendment, which 34 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: I saw some members of the sport media making, they've 35 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: all vanished. And the latest bit of news here and 36 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm reading this is shared by Colin Rugg, who does 37 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: a good job collating a lot of different stories and 38 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: spreading them on social media. The firearm used by one 39 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: of the men charged with the shooting in Kansas City 40 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: was stolen, according to court documents, shortly after the shooting. 41 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: You'll remember President Biden made the most of the shooting 42 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: and demanded an assault weapons ban. None of that would 43 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: have changed anything that happened in Kansas City. Now, Bucket's 44 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: a bit confusing because they've charged two juveniles with crimes. 45 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: They haven't exactly haven't named those juveniles, and they haven't 46 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: said exactly what they did. Maybe there was more than 47 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: two shooters before all is said and done, but these 48 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: two men, both adults, have been charged with second degree murder, 49 00:02:56,120 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: both black guys in Kansas City. And again, this just 50 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: circles back to the conversation we had last week, but 51 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: also this week. People don't really want to have a 52 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 1: conversation about violence because it would require acknowledging that black 53 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: men are overwhelmingly responsible as a percentage of the population 54 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: for violence in America. And there's a huge segment of 55 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: white America that is terrified of being called racist if 56 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: they happen to look at the data and say three 57 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: percent of the population is committing over half of all murders, 58 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: and by the way, most of their victims are black 59 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: as well. 60 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: You know, I watched with Carrie the exchange on the 61 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: Bill Mahershow between Ann Colter, who is a friend of ours, 62 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: and van Jones, whom I know for my time at CNN, 63 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: and it was instructive. I mean, Ann is far more 64 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: well versed in the law and certainly the truth about 65 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: firearms than Van joneses. But Van Jones doesn't care because 66 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: he's there to emote on behal half of the Democrat 67 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: party line. On the they were speaking about Kansas City, 68 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: to be clear, they were speaking about this shooting on 69 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: that show right after it had happened. And what you 70 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: see is Van Jones when he's pushed on this and 71 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 2: brought up the issue of broken families, and Bill Maher 72 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 2: even occasionally threw in things to show that he knows 73 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 2: a little more than maybe some of that audience of 74 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: leftists would expect about this. The illegitimacy rate between black 75 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: families and white families, effectively children born out of wedlock, 76 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: between white and black families until you get into the. 77 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: Sixties was very very close. I mean meaning that that. 78 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 2: Black families were intact families before the creation of the 79 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: massive welfare state in America at LBJ and the Great 80 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 2: Society programs, and since then now I think now it's 81 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: over seventy percent of Black children are born out of wedlock, 82 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 2: and that's something that she brought up Van Jones in 83 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 2: responses if you're wondering, you know how we stop violence, 84 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 2: and he said, yes, black on black violence in cities 85 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 2: is a big province. You know how we stop the violence? 86 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: More city programs. And I'm sorry, but you know, you 87 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: don't get to be lecturing the country about the need 88 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 2: to stop gun violence and then turn around and say, 89 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 2: you know, if we just had more you know, night 90 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 2: basketball programs and after school you know programs, and they've 91 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: tried all this all over the place, it doesn't do anything. Okay, 92 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: it doesn't change because the fundamental structure of the family 93 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 2: in poor neighborhoods has been destroyed by the Democrats, and 94 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: they refuse to deal with this because one they don't 95 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: want to admit that they were wrong, and two they 96 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 2: don't want to lose the power that the state has 97 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: to pay the bills of all these individuals effectively. 98 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: Right. 99 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 2: I mean, in New York City, Clay, it's something like 100 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: twenty percent of the city's living in subsidize. How is 101 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 2: it twenty percent? Five people in a city of eight million? 102 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: And what you also, just real quick on this, Clay, 103 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,799 Speaker 1: what you also see is the wait for the facts. 104 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: They didn't want to wait for the facts because the 105 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: point isn't stopping gun violence. 106 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: Okay, everyone should remember this the next time there's a 107 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: shooting that's like this, that involves black men, not a 108 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 2: you know, psycho white guy who's. 109 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: Shooting up a movie theater or something. But when it 110 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: plays out in this way, it's immediately gun control for 111 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: twenty four hours until the name comes out, and then 112 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: we find out, oh, gun control and assault rifle bands 113 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,799 Speaker 1: wouldn't have done anything, but they've scored the political points 114 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: they needed for their side. It's not actually about addressing 115 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: the problem. They won't address the problem. Here's the stat 116 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: for you, buck. I wanted to look it up and 117 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: make sure we got this right. According to Brookings Institute, 118 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty five, twenty four percent of black kids 119 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: were born out of wedlock. Nineteen sixty five, not that 120 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: long ago, right about time to great society starting seventy 121 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: six percent of black kids at nineteen sixty five were 122 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: born inside of marital homes. It's now seventy percent of 123 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: black kids are born out of wedlock. Think about I 124 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: mean again since nineteen sixty five, So for people out 125 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: there because you know, one of the arguments that will 126 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: be made is, well, this is a legacy of slavery. 127 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: That's the argument now that is made. This is part 128 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: of the systemic racism that Black America has to deal with. 129 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: The family unit has been devalued for generations. Okay, nineteen 130 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: sixty five, A lot of you out there listening to 131 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: us right now, we're alive. In nineteen sixty five, seventy 132 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: six percent of Black kids born in families. Now twenty 133 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: twenty three, twenty twenty four, it's up to over seventy 134 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: percent of Black kids are born out of wedlock. That's 135 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: a massive change, and I think the data would reflect 136 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: buck that we have created and incentivized that to occur 137 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: with the policies that we put in place. And you 138 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: can dig into it a little bit more. 139 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: It's not just because people say, oh, well, well out 140 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 2: of wedlock. I have a friend who is born out 141 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: of wedlock and he's great. What we really mean is fatherlessness. 142 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 2: No dad in the picture, no father figure around, no 143 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: remarried dad even or anything like that we were talking about. 144 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 2: There's no father figure. And when this happens, and it 145 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: certainly does in other communities. It happens far too often 146 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 2: in among you know, white families, white individuals. Across the country, 147 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 2: you have similarly bad outcomes, high high levels of drug 148 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: abuse among particularly among men, high levels of young men 149 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 2: of incarceration, high school dropout. The data on this is 150 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 2: screaming there is no which is why you know what 151 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: Van Jones said to Ann if you saw this on 152 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 2: Bill Maherr when he when she pointed this out, that 153 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 2: would be great if it were true. All they can 154 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: do is deny. All they're left with is a denial 155 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: of the acts that are so clear and have been 156 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 2: clear for decades. But destruction of the family unit and 157 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 2: the replacement of it with the state is unfortunately ideologically 158 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 2: embedded in the left and the Democrat Party. 159 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned this because I do think it's important. 160 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: We have a lot of single parents out there listening, 161 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: and this is not designed to attack single parents. It's 162 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: unfortunate that any single parent has to do the job 163 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: of both mom and dad. But the day you may 164 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: do a fabulous job, and there are certainly exceptions to 165 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: the overall rule. Your kids may grow up they may 166 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: be the most successful human beings on the planet. Remember 167 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: Barack Obama and Bill Clinton were both raised by single moms. 168 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: So there are exceptions, but as a general rule, you 169 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: don't want to try to be the exception. You want 170 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: to put your kids in the best possible position, and 171 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: government policy is failing kids. 172 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 2: I know someone who runs a hedge fund who takes 173 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: far more drugs than any person should. Okay, like I've 174 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: known someone alike. He is wildly successful, wildly successful. 175 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: Now that doesn't mean that I'm not going to tell people, hey, 176 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: don't do a lot of drugs. 177 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: It's bad for you. Yeah, right now, that's a particular 178 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: outlier situation. But I'm just saying that there are always 179 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 2: going to be people who overcome the difficult circumstances. It's 180 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: not to malign any individual's circumstance or family. It's to 181 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 2: look at at a policy level, how do you encourage 182 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: This is what marriage does. Marriage is the social and 183 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 2: religious encouragement of family formation. Right now, there are people 184 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 2: that figure out other things that work, and some people 185 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 2: never get married and they make it work and their 186 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 2: kids are pretty happy. Although we could have a conversation 187 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: level then why not get married? Point here, being stable 188 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: family formation is essential. The Soviets, the Communists, they always 189 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: destroy this. They want control of the family, and they 190 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 2: want to turn family members actually against each other by 191 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 2: elevating the state above mom and dad, above your brothers 192 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 2: and sisters, because then they completely own you. Then they 193 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 2: own your mind, they own your soul. There's a bit 194 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 2: of that in the Democrat approach to all of this too. 195 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 2: And you see this with the welfare state. What they 196 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 2: want is the state in place of dad, the state 197 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 2: in place of a husband. And so then you're going 198 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: to keep voting for whatever it is, you know, whoever 199 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 2: it is that's promising to continue and perpetuate that relationship, 200 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 2: because the absence of that is terrifying to you, because 201 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: who else is there to gather together with you and 202 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 2: deal with the tough times. Family formation is absolutely critical. 203 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: Is there one person clay right now in the sports world? 204 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 2: Is there one very prominent black athlete? And I ask this, honestly, 205 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 2: I don't know you would know who speaks about family 206 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 2: formation and its importance in the black community. 207 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: Is anyone talking about it? Tony Dungee is a coach 208 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 1: who has gotten criticized to a large extent for arguing 209 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: about the father has to be the head of the 210 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 1: household and the dad has to raise his family. You're 211 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: getting ya gets criticized Google the amount of attacks that 212 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: Tony Dungee has gotten. Remember Barack Obama said this early 213 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: in his presidency. I think there is a huge opening. 214 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: And I don't think it's just black men, although certainly 215 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: black men if you look at the data, are absent 216 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: higher rates than any other group. I think Hispanic, White 217 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: or Asian. That's what the data reflects. But this is 218 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: a part of masculinity crisis in general. And I think 219 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: about this a lot because I have three boys and 220 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: I'm trying hopefully to raise them to one day be 221 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 1: good dads and be good husbands and to be heads 222 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: of households and be able to be successful in life. 223 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: A lot of men we have elevated women's choices and opportunities, 224 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: and I think it's a good thing. But there's a 225 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: difference between elevating and pulling down. And I think a 226 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: lot of men if you look, I mean just basic college, 227 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: sixty percent of all college graduates now are women. Buck women, 228 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: They're women listening to us right here. I think one 229 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 1: of the reasons why women are so connected to the 230 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: Democrat Party single women. I think single women have been 231 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: sold to bill of goods. This is a big this 232 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: is a big idea. We could probably dive into do 233 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: a whole shows on this. But I think they've been 234 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: sold the idea that you'll be happy if you are 235 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: if you do X, Y and Z, and a lot 236 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: of those things push you away from wanting to be 237 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: a mom. And I think a lot of single women 238 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: out there want to be moms, and they're told, go 239 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: pursue your career, go have all this success, and they 240 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: try to make you feel bad or make you believe 241 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: that you can be you know, the boss, what's the phrase, 242 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: like boss lady, boss lady, and all aspects of your life. 243 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: And the reality is it's really hard to be a 244 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: great mom or a great dad and work one hundred 245 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: hours a week or eighty hours a week or any 246 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: of those things. And so if you go, look but 247 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: you are single for longer than me. But a lot 248 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: of what single women are told is what single men 249 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: would dream, optionally, sex with no strings attached. Like you've 250 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: lived through this more than I could do. 251 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 2: What I could do a whole podcasts just on what 252 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 2: it's like to be single, in America in a major 253 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 2: city today, and the accrue wisdom of decades of going 254 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 2: through it and it's bad. Not not the wisdom that 255 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 2: part's good, but the experience that most people have, or 256 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 2: I should say that the culture. 257 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: There are obviously exceptions. 258 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 2: There are people listening to this who have built families 259 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 2: at a you know, at a young age and major 260 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: cities and they're very happy. But I'm saying the culture 261 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 2: is doing exactly what you talk about, which is encouraging 262 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 2: the pursuit of things that no one cares. I'll say 263 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 2: this one of my favorite things that it was kind 264 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: of an offhand comment he made. But Tucker during one 265 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: of his monologues long time ago when he was still 266 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: at Fox Door Fox you know, did what they did. 267 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 2: He said, oh, yeah, you know, because women they shouldn't 268 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 2: have babies. They should all just be trying to you know, 269 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: make VP at the marketing firm. Now, it's a little 270 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 2: he's being you know, a little provocative with it, right, 271 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: it's meaning to poke people a little bit. But his 272 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 2: point is, unless you really want that, why do you care? 273 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: Meaning unless that fulfills you. For most men, what fulfills 274 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: them is to be in a place where they can 275 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 2: provide for their family. Now, if you have a two 276 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 2: parent or two income earning household, you're part of that 277 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 2: mission together. But that's the point. The point is not 278 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: the self congratulations of you know, I made VP or 279 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 2: you know I made partner at the law firm. Guys 280 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 2: don't get excited about that just because it's look at 281 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 2: how great I am. 282 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: It's I can support my family. You can be the 283 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: guy going to the construction site every day. Your hands 284 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: are dirty, you're working long hours, it's really loud. What 285 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: keeps you going with that? Yeah, you want to provide 286 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: for your family. You want your wife to have good 287 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: and your kids have good food on the table, a 288 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: nice safe place to live, you know, and comfortable clothing 289 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: on their backs. And that's why you go through what 290 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: you go through. Men and women are built differently. There's 291 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: a nurturing component for women. So sorry, we're good. It's 292 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: like we're getting conversation. 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They also want to play you. 356 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: And a little bit at the audio from Trump last 357 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: night talking about who his VP VP pick might be. 358 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: But Erin in Maine, you actually hit on something that 359 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: I have been driving home within just private conversations. I 360 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,479 Speaker 1: don't think i'd been on the air talking about it. 361 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: You've been married for ten years but no fault divorce. 362 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: I think this is huge. I think this is massive. 363 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: But I'll let you make the argument and then I 364 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 1: want to build on it a little bit. Aaron, what 365 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 1: you got. 366 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 3: So like? 367 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,479 Speaker 4: You said that I am married for ten years this April, 368 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 4: been with my wife since high school, so fifteen years. 369 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 4: I just actually had my thirty third birthday last week. 370 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 4: And when it comes with like no fault divorce, I 371 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 4: believe that if we were to get rid of that, 372 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 4: it would be a start of a way to to 373 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 4: improve relations of people in my generation and younger about 374 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 4: how that they look at relationships. 375 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: You keep making your argument, then I want to build. 376 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 4: On it because with that they have to think about 377 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 4: the consequences of getting married and make sure that they 378 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 4: actually want to be with the person that they i 379 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 4: with instead of just really really get married, get divorced, 380 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 4: or just go around doing the hookup culture. 381 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for the call. So Buck, I don't 382 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: know if you've given any thought to this because you're 383 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: recently married. Ideally, unless my wife leaves me in the 384 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 1: next couple of months. I'll be twenty years married in August. 385 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 1: So this whole concept of no fault divorce, I understand 386 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: why it became and why it came into existence in 387 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: the nineteen fifties and sixties because the idea was women 388 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: felt like they were not able to leave abusive relationships. 389 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: This is the argument, and we don't want to get 390 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: the courts involved in trying to assess who is at 391 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: fault and who is it not. I actually think no 392 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: fault divorce shouldn't exist. Buy in, Marge. Now, both parties 393 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: just really want to get done and they don't want 394 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: to dive into it. I think you should have the 395 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: ability to do that. But Buck, let me give you 396 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: an analogy here. And I bet you haven't even thought 397 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: about this, But I've seen people, you know, getting divorced 398 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: and thought about it some. Fortunately I never did this 399 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: in family law, so I never practiced in it. Imagine 400 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: if you had no fault car accidents. Imagine if we 401 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: just said, hey, every car accident that happens, we're not 402 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: going to assess who was to blame. We're not going 403 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: to assess overall culpability. Just every car accident that occurs, 404 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna say there is no fault on anybody. You 405 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: know that driving around in cars is inherently dangerous. Ultimately, 406 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: what you would incentivize, buck, is you would incentivize people 407 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: who are able to If you drove around in a 408 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 1: crappy car and you saw a fancy car, you would 409 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: just drive right into it because you would benefit. You 410 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: might get nicer car from getting in an accident with 411 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: a fancy car. If someone breaks up a marriage, if 412 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: you walk out on your family, you shouldn't get in 413 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: my opinion, without kids, things like that. Why should you 414 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 1: get alimony if you are the fault person in a relationship. 415 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: But I know this happens. I think a lot. There 416 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: are people out there listening, nodding along. Somebody decides, Hey, 417 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: I'm sick of this relationship, and you don't have the money, 418 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,959 Speaker 1: and you walk out, and then you cheat on your partner, 419 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: you don't like them, you don't want to be with them, 420 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: whatever the reason is. And then the person you walk 421 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: out on has to pay for you to continue your life. 422 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: How does that make any sense? Like, you shouldn't be 423 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: rewarded for being the fault party. 424 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 2: One of the problems is that the family courts are 425 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 2: really I would argue a violation of the equal Protection 426 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 2: Clause because they are actually skewed. People don't like to 427 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 2: hear this, but it is true. They're skewed so far 428 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 2: in favor of women in most states and most jurisdictions. 429 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 2: And that would have made back in the days when 430 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 2: you know, women were expected to be the ones raising 431 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: the children and this was all. 432 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: They'd never had jobs, they've never made money, yes, right, 433 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: you know. Now you get people that you know, a woman, 434 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: she's like in her mid twenties and some other guy 435 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: with more money comes along, or she's in her early 436 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: thirties or whatever, and she decides it's time to trade up. 437 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 2: You get a lot of that going on. Look, I 438 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,479 Speaker 2: grew up around this in New York City, where in 439 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 2: that case it was particularly among some of mine. These 440 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 2: were my friend's fathers, okay, and my so my peers. 441 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 2: Dad's many of them. And I'm very grateful that my 442 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 2: parents have been married forty five years. They just had 443 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 2: their forty fifth or forty fifth wedding anniversary. It might 444 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 2: have been forty six, Sorry, Mom and Dad. I think 445 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 2: it's forty fifth, but anyway, point being, I had a 446 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 2: lot of friends whose dads decided, Oh, this happened a 447 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 2: lot around Wall Street. 448 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 5: Right. 449 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 2: You got to remember I grew up in New York City, 450 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 2: late eighties into the nineties Wall Street. Some of these 451 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 2: guys start making a lot of money. Yeah they do, 452 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 2: all right, Well, thank you for you know, popping out 453 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 2: two three, four kids. For me, Now, I kind of 454 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 2: want the you know, the the Swedish model who's been 455 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: like our friend's nanny for the last couple of months, Like, 456 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 2: who's who's twenty four? I think I'm gonna give it 457 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 2: a shot, you know, with her. You know, I'm going 458 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 2: to try this whole get married again thing. That was 459 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 2: very common in New York. And I can just tell 460 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 2: you from my friends who went through that it was 461 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 2: doesn't matter how much money there was, doesn't matter, you know, 462 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 2: how many nannies there were to pick up the slack. 463 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 2: It was very emotionally and psychologically damaging to those kids. 464 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 2: And I still see those scars on them to this day. 465 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: My parents, by the way, in credit fifty five years, 466 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: got married back in nineteen sixty nine. They're both going 467 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: to be eighty this year, so happy our eightieth birthday 468 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 1: to Norman Liz Travis, who are down in Florida right 469 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: now having a good time, trying to get away a 470 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: little bit from the cold weather. We got a pastor 471 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: who wants to weigh in, John in Saratoga Springs, New York. John, 472 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: But what do you see. You obviously spend a lot 473 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: of time, I'm sure, ministering to families in difficult straits. 474 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 5: Yes, that is true. Well listen, here's the thing. Let 475 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 5: me give you some bona fides. I've been married for 476 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 5: thirty four years this year, have five children, and they're 477 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 5: all doing awesome. I love my wife. 478 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: Congrats, Yeah, thank you. 479 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 5: The thing about it is this, and I do this 480 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 5: every time I marry somebody. I tell them, look, the 481 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 5: job of the man is to love his wife. And 482 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 5: I can guarantee you're going to have a hard time 483 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 5: doing it. And I always turn to the scripture where 484 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:44,719 Speaker 5: Paul talks about it, and he says, husbands, love your wives, 485 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 5: and he says it about seven times in that passage 486 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 5: of Scriptures and Ephesians five, and so I stress to 487 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 5: them all the time, Guys, you are the success of 488 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 5: the marriage. 489 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 4: You need life. 490 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 5: Learn how to love your wives, and you need to 491 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 5: love them until your eyeballs fall out of your head 492 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 5: because you're gonna die trying. That's how hard they are 493 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 5: to love. But you gotta do it, and most guys 494 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 5: can't do it. 495 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 4: You do it. 496 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 5: You've been married twenty years, Clay, You're gonna learn it. 497 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 5: It's hard to do, but if you do it and 498 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 5: you stick to it, your children will thrive and life 499 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 5: will be good. It isn't easy, but it'll be good 500 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 5: and better. 501 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: Thank you for the call. And again, there's a lot 502 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: of single parents out there, and we're not trying to 503 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: single you out. I know the difficult. When I had 504 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: my first kid book, I can't imagine trying to raise 505 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: a kid or kid's plural, doing the job of mom 506 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: and dad. You may do a fabulous job, your kids 507 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: may be perfect, but as a general rule, the best 508 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: way for kids to have success is with mom and 509 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: dad at home. 510 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 2: You know, no one's perfect. And we sit here, you know, 511 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 2: I was telling clearly this before. You know, I've as 512 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 2: over there writing my book. Maybe that's just an excuse, 513 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 2: but I've put on like ten pounds and so when 514 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 2: I sit here, I talk about, you know, putting down 515 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,719 Speaker 2: the cheesecake and getting to the gym. It's generally applicable 516 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 2: that that is a good thing. If somebody out there 517 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 2: happens to also be in the more cheesecake than gym 518 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 2: club recently, it's not an. 519 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: Attack on anybody. It's not. 520 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 2: You know, we're speaking about things that are generally true 521 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 2: for our own benefit and for everyone's benefit. And when 522 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 2: it comes to family structure, and certainly when it comes 523 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 2: to the data, the sociological data on what happens in 524 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 2: the absence of fathers and all this, these things are 525 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 2: generally true. And it's up to every individual to know, well, 526 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 2: what are the circumstances that you've overcome that you had 527 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 2: to deal with. You know, your challenge is you know, 528 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 2: no one else is passing judgment. But what is generally 529 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 2: true is something that needs to be discussed because you're 530 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 2: also trying to get the most good outcomes for the 531 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 2: most people in this country. Which is true as a 532 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 2: function of policy. It's true as a function I think 533 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 2: of just the way that Americans think about family and things, 534 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: about what it means to be successful and have a life, 535 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 2: you know, happy, as a happy comes and goes productive 536 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 2: and worthwhile I think is always the the goal. Right, 537 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 2: happy is great, but that'll no one's happy all the time. 538 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: If you are, that's a whole other thing. 539 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: I would also say that it's not only what you learn, 540 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: it's what you learn not to do. So a lot 541 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: of you out there listening to us may have gone 542 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: through divorce in your families. You may have been raised 543 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: by a single parent. You understand that better than most. Right. 544 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: If you're a dad out there who dealt with an 545 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,239 Speaker 1: absent father figure, you know what that feels like in 546 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: a way that a kid who grew up in a 547 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: two parent household doesn't. And so you mentioned athletes earlier, Buck, 548 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: I think this is a really important aspect that needs 549 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: to be examined more. There's a huge part of our 550 00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: society today that lives right ight and talks left. And 551 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: I don't remember the first place I saw that phrase. 552 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: I think it was actually the New York Times editorial page, 553 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: but it said if you look at really highly successful democrats, 554 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: they all buy in large where they have nuclear families, 555 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: They have a mom and dad at home, They tend 556 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: to raise their kids, put them in private school. They 557 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: do all these things that they tell people they don't 558 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: need to do themselves. They talk left, but they live right. 559 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: And that's what you'll see with athletes too, a lot 560 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: of it. And you can be you know, if you're 561 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: making thirty million dollars a year to play a kid's game, yes, 562 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: you are insulated from a lot of bad choices, at 563 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: least financially economically. I don't think necessarily spiritually and in 564 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: terms of your long term mental health and outlook on 565 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: your life. But you are if you're making big money 566 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: to be in the NBA or any professional sports league 567 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: out there, or you're an actor. You see this with 568 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: actors who really you know, Hollywood stars that you know, 569 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: the Kardashians. I was going to tell people they're listening, well, 570 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian got away with do an x Y or 571 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: look at the video she put on the internet, Like, yeah, 572 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: she's a mess, and she's also a billionaire, so she's 573 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: going to be able to get away with more stuff. 574 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: And she came from a very rich family in the 575 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: first place. 576 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 2: The decisions that you make for most people are going 577 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 2: to be have more painful, certainly financial consequences earlier on. 578 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 2: So look, what do y'all think about this? Eight hundred 579 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 2: two way two two eight A two we're talking. Yeah, 580 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 2: it was my parents forty sixth wedding anniversary, forty six. 581 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: That is awesome. 582 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 2: I forget how old I am and my siblings are now, 583 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 2: so I never know, like what the actual forty six 584 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 2: you said your parents are on, which fifty five. 585 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: My parents were old school before it was old school. 586 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: They were married for a full decade before I was born, 587 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: So back in they got married nineteen sixty nine, I 588 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: had what at the time I thought old parents because 589 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: they were in their thirties when I was born, and 590 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: growing up in Tennessee, you can imagine like everybody start 591 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: having kids like twenty two, twenty three years old. That 592 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: back when I was a kid. Now it's very common 593 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: for people to get into their thirties. So they were 594 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: married for a full decade before they had my sister 595 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: and me, And yeah, they just they this year, sorry, 596 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: we'll celebrate their fifty fifth wedding anniversary. 597 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 2: So we've got old photos of our parents' weddings. We've 598 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 2: got VHS tapes from early years of the kids, probably 599 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 2: little Clay running around causing all kinds of problems doing 600 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 2: things as parents told them not to do. How can 601 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 2: you enjoy that stuff today. 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That's Legacy Box 627 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 2: dot com slash buck for fifty percent off their regular prices. 628 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: Subscribe to CNB twenty four to seven and never miss 629 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: a minute of Clay and Box while getting behind the 630 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: scene access to special content for members on like that. 631 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back in to Clay and Buck. 632 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 2: We are going to take some of your calls here 633 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 2: in a second, also give you a sense of what's 634 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 2: next up here on the show. We will discuss In 635 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 2: New York City they are giving out prepaid debit cards 636 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 2: to migrants now, so they're just basically giving them digital cash. 637 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:18,959 Speaker 3: Uh. 638 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: And then in. 639 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 2: Oaklaw, I'm sorry. In Chicago ever read something? You see 640 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 2: something on your screen, Clay, and you just read it. 641 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 2: I was looking up something else, I ron Burgundy for 642 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,239 Speaker 2: a second. In Chicago, they're having a similar issue with 643 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 2: migrants getting resources, and some of the residents of Chicago 644 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 2: are very displeased. 645 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: So we will discuss all that coming up here momentarily. 646 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 2: Let's now get to uh, Jeff in Phoenix, Arizona. 647 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: He's a single dad. What's up, Jeff one and all? 648 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 3: Hey, Yeah, I've been raising I raised two sons. I'm 649 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 3: still raising one. He's a senior in high school. 650 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,959 Speaker 1: It's rough, so it's hard. 651 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 2: I mean having having a partner in this would have 652 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 2: made things easier. I mean, we appreciate you stayed around 653 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 2: or raised your kids. We're sure you're a great dad, 654 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 2: but it's not an easy thing. You're telling us. 655 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 3: Uh no, there are many things that is not on 656 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 3: the list. 657 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, So how have you found I'm actually curious. There's 658 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: a lot. There's far more single moms than there are 659 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: single dads. And we were talking about the Buck was 660 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: talking about the family court apparatus and everything that, to 661 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: be fair, oftentimes seems like it's slanted in favor of moms. 662 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: How have you found that experience as a single dad 663 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: compared to a single mom? 664 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 3: The family court is I have found family court is 665 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 3: absolutely skewed towards the mom. The only reason I have 666 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 3: custody is I got an email twenty tennis. I don't 667 00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 3: remember exactly when. Hey, I'm moving on on such a date, 668 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 3: and at the time I didn't trust her, so I 669 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 3: reached out to the school and said, hey, look, I 670 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 3: don't know what's going on if she didn't come and 671 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,919 Speaker 3: pick them up, because at the time we had joint 672 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 3: custody week on, week off, And I said, I don't 673 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 3: know if she's going to be there or not, but 674 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 3: if she doesn't pick him up, give me a call 675 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,280 Speaker 3: and on head over after work until about three fifteen 676 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,439 Speaker 3: or so whatever time school got out at the time 677 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 3: they called me and said she's not here. 678 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: She didn't take them up. 679 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 3: I said, all right, I could be there in a 680 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 3: couple hours. And from that point forward. We were actually 681 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 3: still in a cussy dispute at the time, and I 682 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 3: was very frustrated with my lawyer because to me, that's 683 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 3: parental abandonment and he didn't want to file it that way, 684 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 3: and I said, screw you, and I walked away. 685 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: Thank you for the call, and thank you for raising 686 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: those boys. I've got three. I cannot even imagine if 687 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 1: I had been solo, given everything that's going on in general, 688 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: and all their lives and all the challenges that would 689 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: be associated with it. And again, single parent households. We 690 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: appreciate what you are doing, but the fact that as 691 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: a government again, that data point buck that seventy six 692 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: percent of black kids were born in marital households in 693 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty five. Now over seventy percent are born out 694 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 1: of wedlock. How do you explain that by anything other 695 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: than governmental incentives have discouraged the nuclear family. I mean, 696 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: it's impossible for me to come up with a philosophy 697 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 1: or a theory on why that would have happened otherwise, 698 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 1: connected as it is to the Great Society and everything 699 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: that got implemented starting in the nineteen sixties. 700 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 2: This is why I thought LBJ was one of the 701 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 2: three worst presidents in history. Although he just did with 702 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 2: the Democrat Party wanted him to do. But he was 703 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 2: a bad guy for a whole bunch of reasons. 704 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: Too. Conversation for another time. That Robert Carrow book. Have 705 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: you read it? That trilogy? Set loves it? Oh, it's 706 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: so well done. One of the best nonfiction works ever