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<v Speaker 1>and we got a lots to talk about here today

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<v Speaker 1>Tonight at XT the follow up to Deadline, and we

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<v Speaker 1>have a number of matches announced for the show, as

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<v Speaker 1>well as the start of the twenty twenty three Men's

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<v Speaker 1>Breakout Tournament. I hope they wrestled better than they cut promos.

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<v Speaker 1>I could say that much. Also go that you would

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<v Speaker 1>turn him Tikita, Lions and more. We'll tell you about

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<v Speaker 1>that today plus tomorrow's Winter is coming Arlington, Texas. Number

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<v Speaker 1>of matches announced for the show, the Von Erics are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be there, and more. Yesterday, of course, was

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<v Speaker 1>Monday Night Raw, and they set up two tag team

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<v Speaker 1>championship matches for next week's show, and of course the

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<v Speaker 1>week after is going to be a best of show.

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<v Speaker 1>So next week's Raw is the final Raw of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel that because it's the final show of

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<v Speaker 1>the year, it's the holiday season, I think we are

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<v Speaker 1>going to have a tag team title change one way

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<v Speaker 1>or the other. We've also got a lot of other shows,

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<v Speaker 1>the Ring of Honor show coming up on Friday, the

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<v Speaker 1>Back of the show, Bright Albarez here, Wrestling Observer Live,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike somber vv also Wrestling Observe dot com. Well tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's everybody's favorite show. We've got NXT and

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest, it ain't much of a lineup here.

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<v Speaker 1>Eddie Thorpe will be facing Die Jack. It should be fine.

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<v Speaker 1>We have lash legend, Oro Mensa and Noam dar versus

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<v Speaker 1>Fallon Henley, Josh Briggs and Brooks Jensen. I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>have high hopes for that one. We've got the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three Men's Breakout Tournament beginning, which you know when

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<v Speaker 1>they did the women's Breakout Tournament, I mean, I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>handle two women's breakout matches on the single show like

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<v Speaker 1>one's plenty. I'm sure it's gonna be the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>with the men. It's one thing to watch green people

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<v Speaker 1>have matches once a week. I can tolerate that twice

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<v Speaker 1>on one show. I don't know about that one. Brothers

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<v Speaker 1>and Nikita Lyons will make an appearance. He's back. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's not much of a lineup at all.

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<v Speaker 6>What kind of combination do you think we're going to

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<v Speaker 6>get in that Men's Breakout Tournament match there?

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<v Speaker 1>Bro I haven't even looked at the names. I heard

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<v Speaker 1>the promos. I was like, oh my god, there's Milesbourne,

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<v Speaker 1>there's Oba Femi, and there's that bloke that that what's

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<v Speaker 1>her face has a crush on. No, that's a lawyer.

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<v Speaker 1>Lawyer who actually appeared for a couple of shows a

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<v Speaker 1>while back as a lawyer.

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<v Speaker 6>This you guy, the chase you guy who girlfriends got

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<v Speaker 6>a crush on?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I forget anyway, who cares? It's a show? They

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<v Speaker 1>better wow me tonight. We're coming off that great Iron

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<v Speaker 1>Survivor Challenge show. Come on, see what tricks gotta say?

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<v Speaker 1>Then we've got winners coming tomorrow Arlington, Texas. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>three Continental Classic matches. We have John Moxley versus Swerve,

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<v Speaker 1>which should be a blood bath, a blood bath. We

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<v Speaker 1>have Rush versus Jay Lethal, we have Jay White versus

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Brisco, and we have Rijo versus Ruby. Soho Hagman

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<v Speaker 1>versus Roderick Strong. We will hear from Samoa Joe. We

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<v Speaker 1>will hear from Kenny Omega and Chris Jericho. And yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the Vaughan Eric family returns to Texas, and I hear

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<v Speaker 1>they're actually returning to Texas. They're moving from Hawaii. Imagine,

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<v Speaker 1>why would you go that way? Should be going the

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<v Speaker 1>other way. But anyway, that's the lineup for Winter is coming.

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<v Speaker 1>And we can look at the ticket sales here from

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<v Speaker 1>Wressell ticks winter is coming right now?

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<v Speaker 5>Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Three thousand tickets? And the last time they were there,

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<v Speaker 1>well it was final Battle that doesn't really count. Twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six hundred, so they're up from the last time. They've

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<v Speaker 1>sold ninety eight tickets in the last day, so I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're going to finish right around thirty two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>would be my guess. Maybe thirty three hundred, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>Winter is coming. That is the show.

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<v Speaker 6>Looks like no audio has arrived, at least on my

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<v Speaker 6>end of things, which kind of stinks here, but I'll

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<v Speaker 6>try to figure this out here. But Luca Blog, you

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<v Speaker 6>mean no video? No video here?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 6>Uh, Lucha Blog made a really it looks.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're being punched in the face by a kangaroo

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that.

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<v Speaker 6>Luca Blog made a good point when it came to

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<v Speaker 6>Tony having his rh press conference right now that's going on,

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<v Speaker 6>But he says, you know, this is a free question

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<v Speaker 6>for anybody. Last time you swung through Texas, you brought

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<v Speaker 6>in CMLL Star and Mystico, and tickets seemed to move well.

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<v Speaker 6>After this time, there's only a commander in a sixth way.

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<v Speaker 6>Was there any consideration to using more Mexican talent on

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<v Speaker 6>this show. And I kind of have that question too, actually,

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<v Speaker 6>kind of seeing the way that things have worked out here,

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<v Speaker 6>because Mystico did draw so many people, you know, why

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<v Speaker 6>didn't they or what was the I wonder what the

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<v Speaker 6>mentality here is to not have anybody on the show,

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<v Speaker 6>even to draw them for a dark match or something

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<v Speaker 6>like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I do not have an answer for you, but I

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<v Speaker 1>do know that we have the lineup for Final Battle,

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<v Speaker 1>which I believe is coming up Friday.

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<v Speaker 6>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 1>This coming Friday? I think December? Yes, this coming is

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<v Speaker 1>coming Friday. And I do believe that the women are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be headlining the show. I think it is

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<v Speaker 1>Athena and Billy Starks for the title. And yes, December fifteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, what.

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<v Speaker 6>Going on?

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<v Speaker 1>What's today the twelfth?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Lord, I don't know if Russell Ticks has an update

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<v Speaker 1>since December eighth, But on December eighth, the show was

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<v Speaker 1>set up for thirty seven hundred and they were at

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<v Speaker 1>one thy fifty six.

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<v Speaker 6>I well, maybe you could have used some Latin American

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<v Speaker 6>talent on that show as well too.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, if there's an update since December eighth, can

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<v Speaker 1>somebody send it to me because that's that's pretty distressing

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<v Speaker 1>right there. So anyway, the lineup is Athena versus Billy

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<v Speaker 1>Starks for the Ring of Honor World Title. We have

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<v Speaker 1>a survival of the Fittest six way elimination match to

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<v Speaker 1>crown a new television Champion, Alton Castle Commander, Lee Moriarty,

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<v Speaker 1>Lee Johnson, Kyle Fletcher, and TVD. We have got Keith

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<v Speaker 1>Lee versus Shane Taylor. And we have Ethan Page versus

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Niece and an iquid match. Now December eight, they

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<v Speaker 1>did add John Moxley, Claudio and Brian Danielson versus FTR

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<v Speaker 1>and Mark Brisco. So my guess is that they are

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<v Speaker 1>well above a thousand right now, but I'm gonna I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna see if I can get an update, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll find out, because you would think that match would

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<v Speaker 1>move a fair number of tickets, That's what I would think.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's Final Battle coming up on Friday, and then

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<v Speaker 1>Russell Kingdom is coming up. We've got the card for

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<v Speaker 1>the show after this past weekend. Soana A versus Nito

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<v Speaker 1>for the IWGP World Heavyweight Title, the Ocotta Danielson match

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<v Speaker 1>God Forbid Danielson can make it there. We have got

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<v Speaker 1>Will Ospray, John Moxley and David Finley, who will in

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<v Speaker 1>fact be fighting for the iw GP Global Heavyweight Championship.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get to that in a moment. Romu will defend

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<v Speaker 1>the junior title against El Desperado. We have go to

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<v Speaker 1>Yoshi Hashi versus Hickoleo and l Fantasmo, and it says

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<v Speaker 1>here for both titles, So it doesn't say that it's

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily a unification match. It is it is for both titles,

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<v Speaker 1>which means, you know they could, you know, the winners

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<v Speaker 1>could defend one set of titles on one show, the

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<v Speaker 1>other set on the other show. But now it is

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<v Speaker 1>just for both titles. We have got Clark Connors and

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<v Speaker 1>Drilla Maloney versus TJP and franssko Akira. Well you've got

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<v Speaker 1>Zack Sabers Junior versus a Roshi Tanahashi for the television

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<v Speaker 1>title and Shingo versus Tomatanga. Now this new belt, this

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<v Speaker 1>new belt. New Japan released a statement from Naoki Sugabayashi

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<v Speaker 1>ANDJPW and JPW Chairman, who says the IWGP US Heavyweight

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<v Speaker 1>Championship came into being in July twenty seventeen to mark

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<v Speaker 1>New Japan's first major event in the United States in

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<v Speaker 1>Long Beach. After its introduction, it became the symbol of

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<v Speaker 1>New Japan competition in the US. In the years at fall,

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<v Speaker 1>the title will be defended in Japan, becoming familiar to

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese fans as well. However, with the introduction of the

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<v Speaker 1>UK Championship this summer, there was confusion among fans as

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<v Speaker 1>to the status of the title. Maybe you shouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>created a new title with that in mind.

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<v Speaker 6>They didn't. It was an angle for Osprey. They never

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<v Speaker 6>actually created a title with.

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<v Speaker 1>That in mind. Naoki Sugabayashi says the new championship combines

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<v Speaker 1>it ads to the US and UK Championship roles, which

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<v Speaker 1>will be called the IWGP Global Heavyweight Championship. As it

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<v Speaker 1>has already been discussed in recent business strategy presentation. DU

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<v Speaker 1>Japan is working to ensure that twenty twenty four sees

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<v Speaker 1>our presence grow not just in the UK and the US,

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<v Speaker 1>but throughout Europe, the rest of Asia and Oshanya.

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<v Speaker 6>Oceanmo whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, since his name is Hey, that's another story for

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<v Speaker 1>another day. Yeah, kind of ties into that. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>they got a new Times today, Sure we got time. Hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>the holidays are coming. We cant have nothing to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>So Moxley, will Ospray and David Finley will be fighting

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<v Speaker 1>to determine the first IWGP Global Heavyweight Championship. And then

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<v Speaker 1>at the end, Naoki Sugabayashi says thank you, and I

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<v Speaker 1>thank you as well, and we'll be right back Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 2>You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez

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<v Speaker 2>and Mike simper Vivi on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you say you pronounced that Oceana. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>how it's spelled at all.

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<v Speaker 6>There's a lot of words, so.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's Oceania, Oceania.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not it's not Oceanny.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what this reminds me of. I'll tell this

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<v Speaker 1>story now. I mentioned this many times. My best friend

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<v Speaker 1>growing up was Chris Waller Death Cab for Cutie and

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<v Speaker 1>uh I the first memory I have with this little

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<v Speaker 1>bugger was we started off on a bat on bat

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<v Speaker 1>footing we were and uh I think it was like

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<v Speaker 1>probably it'd probably have to be second grade, maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even remember it was first but it might have

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<v Speaker 1>been second, but you know they were all of the uh.

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<v Speaker 1>We were looking at the map trying to learn where

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<v Speaker 1>everything was at, and the uh. The teacher points, she goes,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows what this is? And I I raised my hand,

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<v Speaker 1>I said I got it. She goes, yes, Brian, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the that's the uh, the Pacific a keen and

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Walla pipes up and goes, it's not a keene,

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<v Speaker 1>it's ocean. And I was like and then and then yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it might have been on the playground or whatever. He uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is this is ironic. Actually, this is incredibly ironic.

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<v Speaker 1>If you listen to the Filthy Tom show. He called

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<v Speaker 1>me Brian shrimp because there is such a thing as

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<v Speaker 1>a Brian shrimp, and my name was Brian, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was small, called me Brian trimp. So man, I had

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<v Speaker 1>enough of that guy. And so I went home and

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<v Speaker 1>I said, h, I said, mom, can you look in this?

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<v Speaker 1>Because we had a student directory back then, it was

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<v Speaker 1>on paper at everyone's phone number. I said, can you, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>can you look up Chris Walla's mother's phone number? I

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<v Speaker 1>was mad and I called his mother.

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<v Speaker 6>And SA, she did it for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what do you think she's gonna do. I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to call his mother and have a talk.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe like sit you down and you know, explain some

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<v Speaker 6>things to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I called her up and I said, you know, your

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<v Speaker 1>son's been bugging me at school. He keeps calling me

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<v Speaker 1>Brian shrimp and I don't like it. He's bullying me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wouldn't call it bullying, it's just and he

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<v Speaker 1>was annoying me. So anyway, uh we Actually that's how

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<v Speaker 1>we became friends when.

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<v Speaker 6>Like him apparently, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we are. I'm now forty eight. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how to pronounce oh, whatever it's called, and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>o'shania probably as well. I should be pronounced there like kinwa.

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<v Speaker 6>That's a q.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that's how you pronounce that.

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<v Speaker 6>Come quat come. Well that's a little easier.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a lot seth Rawlins could become a free

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<v Speaker 1>agent next year. His WWE contract is said to expire

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<v Speaker 1>in June of twenty twenty four. Fightful reported on Monday

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<v Speaker 1>two sides have not spoken about a possible extension. W

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<v Speaker 1>W is expected to make re signing the thirty seven

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<v Speaker 1>year old a top priority, making Lynch's contract also believed

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<v Speaker 1>to expire around June of twenty twenty four, sign a

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<v Speaker 1>new deal in twenty twenty one, time she spent on

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<v Speaker 1>maternity leave, not expected to be tacked on the length

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<v Speaker 1>of her contract. Oh, that's we'll see about that now,

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<v Speaker 1>won't we see about that? Jesus, I would expect both

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<v Speaker 1>to re sign. I would be flat gasted if otherwise.

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<v Speaker 6>I would figure as much. What is going on in

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<v Speaker 6>your forum? Since I have no idea most of the

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<v Speaker 6>time and you have all of the idea all of

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<v Speaker 6>the time. What is going on with Jack Perry and

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<v Speaker 6>Seth Rollins? And if you already have a Jack Perry,

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<v Speaker 6>do you need a Seth.

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<v Speaker 1>Rawlins Jack Perry and Seth Rawlins.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Look, I saw Jeff Hawkins post something in today's threat

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<v Speaker 6>on Wrestling Observer Live, and I've seen other talk in

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<v Speaker 6>there that there is a debate over if Seth Rollins

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<v Speaker 6>is available, do you sign him? Because does it give

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<v Speaker 6>you anything more than what you have with Jack Perry already,

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<v Speaker 6>which seems insane to me. Yeah, what seems to be

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<v Speaker 6>one of the insane things going on in your forum

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<v Speaker 6>right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Brother, it ain't my forum, and I refuse this even

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<v Speaker 1>discuss this situation here. Sam Punk will be in action

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<v Speaker 1>when WWE's Holiday House Show tour comes to LA later

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<v Speaker 1>this month. Key a forum in Englewood, California announced Uncle Face.

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<v Speaker 1>Anybody know who's a good face?

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<v Speaker 6>Mm hmmm, I don't know, you don't know, I don't know. Yes,

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<v Speaker 6>Seth please, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Dominic Mysterio, the hardest working man in WWE.

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<v Speaker 6>Actually, that's pretty cool. That'll be good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes with the mizz.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey ay la a County.

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<v Speaker 1>Punk hasn't wrestled any matches since returning its Survivor series.

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<v Speaker 1>He made two appearances on Raw, one on SmackDown, one

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<v Speaker 1>on Deadline officially joined the Raw roster. Oops, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>spoiler for the world famous Raw Report and likely Punk

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<v Speaker 1>and Seth rawlins at WrestleMania forty, so he is not

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<v Speaker 1>going to finish Cody's story. This person here notes that

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<v Speaker 1>Punk wrestling in LA for sure a plot to pull

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<v Speaker 1>a bigger audience than aw did a month prior in

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<v Speaker 1>the same building. I don't think they need Punk there

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<v Speaker 1>for that, but I'm sure that that's part of a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things.

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<v Speaker 6>It's gonna be interesting to see how they build up

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<v Speaker 6>one who is going to win the rumble. I would

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<v Speaker 6>assume that it is Cody and makes his decision. But

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<v Speaker 6>it's gonna be interesting to see how Punk and Seth

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<v Speaker 6>react to each other, because surely that is going to be,

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<v Speaker 6>if not the main event of one of those nights,

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<v Speaker 6>certainly is gonna be the semi main event if they

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<v Speaker 6>decide to go with the Women on Top with Rhea

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<v Speaker 6>and however they decide to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>We got some uh yeah, I'm doing something else while

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, let me just continue on it. Sure all right, Well,

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<v Speaker 6>there's been a lot of talk on Wrestling Observer Radio

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<v Speaker 6>over who would be the Wrestler of the Year in Japan,

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<v Speaker 6>and that person is not will Ospray. Tokyo Sports has

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<v Speaker 6>voted Tatsuya Naito as the most well, of course they did,

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<v Speaker 6>and the Fighting Spirit Award, by the way, that poor bloke,

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<v Speaker 6>the Fighting Spirit Award went to Keno, And honestly, you

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<v Speaker 6>could argue that Keno is the Japanese MVP, whether you

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<v Speaker 6>include will Ospray or not, because which you have to

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<v Speaker 6>remember with will Osprey is yes, he has had a

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<v Speaker 6>number of great matches in Japan, but he's also had

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<v Speaker 6>a large number of the great matches people are talking

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<v Speaker 6>about this year outside of Japan, and frankly, the match

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<v Speaker 6>with Omega, as great as it was, didn't really mean

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<v Speaker 6>anything in New Japan's business. Obviously interest in things like that,

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<v Speaker 6>but when he came to their core everyday stuff, it

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<v Speaker 6>actually didn't have an effect. So I'm not surprised that

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<v Speaker 6>this happened. I'm a little surprised it was Nayato as

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<v Speaker 6>opposed to Keno. But yeah, as you mentioned, this kind

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<v Speaker 6>of sucks to be Sonata and things have not worked

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<v Speaker 6>out at all with the way they may have wanted

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<v Speaker 6>it to.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember talking about that Sanana earlier this year and

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<v Speaker 1>chastise for anyway, what I was doing was not playing

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<v Speaker 1>angry birds. Boy, we're gonna We're gonna reh We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>redo a lot of this studio everybody. I know some

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<v Speaker 1>of you don't care, but it's the holidays. What else

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<v Speaker 1>do we have to talk about? What ratings? Some people

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<v Speaker 1>are complaining about Mike's Mike right now, Well, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get rid of some of this older technology

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<v Speaker 1>that a while ago was you know, are you back now? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was state of the art about fifteen years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>But now it's a little bit behind the times, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna make life a lot easier for everybody that's

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<v Speaker 1>going via remote. Hopefully it'll sound as good or better.

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<v Speaker 6>And uh, okay, Greg, what does that mean for me?

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<v Speaker 6>Since we're doing this on air right now? How does

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<v Speaker 6>this affect mean.

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<v Speaker 1>To get rid of that stupid tie lines where you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get rid of Okay, you're just gonna need your

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<v Speaker 1>mic and you're scarletting your laptop.

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<v Speaker 6>That'll be it's very old computer, so just remember that.

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<v Speaker 6>Well does it go fairly?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Well, let's see what goes on? All right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about these ratings. Everybody's favorite, all right, there's

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<v Speaker 1>not much talk about. Collision actually did fine against the

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<v Speaker 1>Deadline show four hundred and fifty five thousand, which is

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<v Speaker 1>up zero point nine percent from the previous week, i

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<v Speaker 1>ST audience since October twenty eighth, and the best viewership

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<v Speaker 1>the show has ever done, winning the same day as

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<v Speaker 1>a ww E or NXT premium live event Collision at

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<v Speaker 1>a point fourteen in eighteen to forty nine, same rating

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<v Speaker 1>they did last week as well, and the second ice

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<v Speaker 1>rating they've done since September sixteenth, So fine number for collision, which,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, hey, everybody is taped. Last time they

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<v Speaker 1>did a tape show did poorly anyone goes see even

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<v Speaker 1>though there was like massive competition. Well, this time it

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<v Speaker 1>was taped and there was an NXT show had to

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<v Speaker 1>head and they did fine. So it doesn't matter if

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<v Speaker 1>it's live or taped.

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<v Speaker 6>No, not in most cases. No, although I guess if

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<v Speaker 6>you wanted to have an excuse considering that there was

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<v Speaker 6>no football, you kind of maybe you could have dragged

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<v Speaker 6>some drama into things. Now, as much as this number

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<v Speaker 6>was good, come next week with the NFL running all

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<v Speaker 6>day on Saturday, who knows how it's going to be.

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<v Speaker 6>And then the week after that you have the pay

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<v Speaker 6>per view, so there won't be anything there. So I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know. It's it's gonna be a rough road to

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<v Speaker 6>hoe here with the holidays and with the NFL facing

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<v Speaker 6>you as well. So I guess be happy with this

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<v Speaker 6>because you may not make it back to that for

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<v Speaker 6>a while.

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<v Speaker 1>And we got a rampage three hundred and forty one

0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:42.800
<v Speaker 1>thousand viewers and a point one two What are you

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<v Speaker 1>talking about? Dj? I said the tape show could hurt

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<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't even me. It was somebody else that

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<v Speaker 1>pointed out that it's taped, and there's there's tournament matches,

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<v Speaker 1>and so if somebody has to choose between NXT and Collision,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll probably choose NXT because hey, it's taped. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>make any bets. I wasn't convinced of it. I said

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<v Speaker 1>it was possible anyway.

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<v Speaker 6>AA with those NXT ratings dropping a little bit, now

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<v Speaker 1>There is no amount of money. Let's talk about raw

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<v Speaker 1>and oh but up with Jay Uso coming down to

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<v Speaker 1>the ring. He's very excited. He's very excited that he

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<v Speaker 1>got Yeat back because of course another indie wrestler owned

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<v Speaker 1>Yeat and they very quickly got that so he can

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<v Speaker 1>be eaedy again. And so he talks about Sammy's ain

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<v Speaker 1>being out of action called uh said he had a

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<v Speaker 1>partially torn meniscus, which may be real, but Sammy's ain

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<v Speaker 1>was taking time off one way or the other. He's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be gone for a couple of months, it looks like.

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 1>And then Drew came out and Drew first off says,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that Punk's got to make his decision tonight.

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:29.200
<v Speaker 1>He says, Aldis you can have him. This guy will

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<v Speaker 1>destroyed this place from the inside out. Everybody booed. Drew says,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know him? I do. I travel the world

0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 1>with him. I know how this story ends. But hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not about him. Let's talk about Sammy. He got

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<v Speaker 1>done taken out because he talked about my family. And

0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:53.880
<v Speaker 1>he says, how many of you if somebody uh hurt

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<v Speaker 1>your family and did not apologize for it, how many

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:02.480
<v Speaker 1>of you would be happy with that? And jase Easiert

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<v Speaker 1>enough of this, by the way, he still has not

0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 1>apologized to Drew. So it's Drew Mactirren, Jay Us and

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:13.680
<v Speaker 1>long match went through two commercial breaks. Jay hits the

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<v Speaker 1>Kicks Out of the Future Shock, Drew takes off a

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<v Speaker 1>corner pad, tries to Claymore, gets speared. The ref goes

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<v Speaker 1>to put the corner pad back on like he's got

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of zip ties and ends up with Drew

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<v Speaker 1>raking the eyes of Jay and then Claymore and pin him.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a good match, near falls at the end,

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<v Speaker 1>We're good and that's uh. Drew moving up to get

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<v Speaker 1>a World Championship match on the first Raw of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four. Day one Raw no longer a pay per

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<v Speaker 1>view now just a raw. Nakamura did a promo and

0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:51.800
<v Speaker 1>he essentially said, I have been reborn thanks to you.

0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I must bring your story to an end, and always

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<v Speaker 1>remember that you asked for this. He says, he's the

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<v Speaker 1>real nightmare. Oh, Cody, Yeah what I say?

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<v Speaker 6>Nobody.

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 1>Finn yelled at Jad and Tom. He says, Man, ree

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<v Speaker 1>and I are gun for one week and the wheels

0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:13.520
<v Speaker 1>are falling off the wagon. You guys lost last week.

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:16.439
<v Speaker 1>Tom lost the North American title and Preece says, yeah,

0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:18.239
<v Speaker 1>you know what, losing sucks, but you know what else

0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:21.000
<v Speaker 1>sucks not showing up for the show. And he says

0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Finn and I were not gonna take the creeds lightly.

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<v Speaker 1>And Rhea says, you know it seems you're the leader

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<v Speaker 1>and uh saying you're the Leader's much easier than being

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<v Speaker 1>the leader, isn't it? And Priest is mad and he

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<v Speaker 1>starts chewing her out, and Finn in the background's giggling

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<v Speaker 1>at these guys yelling at each other. But then she says,

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<v Speaker 1>stop not talking about you in particular, I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 1>all of you. We need to show the world we

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<v Speaker 1>still run this place. I don't let many one of

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 1>my division disrespect me, So I'm gonna go take out

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Maxine tonight. And then Ivy told Maxine in another segment

0:35:51.920 --> 0:35:54.840
<v Speaker 1>that she was gonna be there for tonight. So Ivy

0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 1>was there for But you do a damn bit of good.

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<v Speaker 1>You know who was supremely happy watching Raw last night? Gravity.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, poor Maxine, God bless her.

0:36:13.520 --> 0:36:15.919
<v Speaker 1>This was the worst match of the year.

0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:18.759
<v Speaker 6>No ocean cyclone suplexes.

0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:23.680
<v Speaker 1>No oceanic cyclone suplexes. A man. She got in there

0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:29.239
<v Speaker 1>and mistimed every single solitary spot she tried, and they

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:32.239
<v Speaker 1>didn't do much, and like every single one of them,

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Rhea did not look happy, and she put her in

0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:38.920
<v Speaker 1>the prison lock refused to let go. I've hit the

0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:45.320
<v Speaker 1>ring for the stare down. Holy smokes. Yeah, Caana Katana

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:48.200
<v Speaker 1>did a video package. They liked a party. I don't

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 1>know if you're aware of that or not. Adam Pierce

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:53.560
<v Speaker 1>came out of the ring contract called out cm Punk.

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:56.759
<v Speaker 1>So cmpunk comes out. He talks about his history in

0:36:56.800 --> 0:37:00.360
<v Speaker 1>this building. It's all been bad. He debut here and

0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 1>got sent to Ohio Valley and then he walked out

0:37:03.800 --> 0:37:07.919
<v Speaker 1>during the Royal Rumble and let everybody down. Didn't mention

0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:11.120
<v Speaker 1>he at his first UFC fight and got smashed, and

0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:13.520
<v Speaker 1>he says, you know, couldn't write a better television show.

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:16.879
<v Speaker 1>Ten years to the day Punk walked out. Now he's

0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:19.439
<v Speaker 1>walking back in and he's signing that contract. I'm going

0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:22.319
<v Speaker 1>to RAW. So Seth then came out. They went face

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:26.280
<v Speaker 1>to face and Seth did his version of the Hangman promo,

0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:29.960
<v Speaker 1>which is it's so funny when you really think about it.

0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:32.680
<v Speaker 1>So Seth does this promo and he goes, don't talk

0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:36.040
<v Speaker 1>about how this is your house. He says, you spent

0:37:36.160 --> 0:37:39.480
<v Speaker 1>ten years slannering me, everybody in that locker room. You

0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:42.600
<v Speaker 1>abandon this place. Now you're gonna call it home. It's

0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 1>not your home, it's my home. I've been here ever

0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:47.600
<v Speaker 1>in the back that my brothers and sisters. I'll do

0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:49.799
<v Speaker 1>everything in my power to protect this place from people

0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 1>like you. Let me make this clear. I want no confusion.

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 1>I will say it plainly with every fiber of my being.

0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:58.759
<v Speaker 1>I hate you, and if you are going to be

0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:00.719
<v Speaker 1>a part of w W again, I do want you

0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:04.279
<v Speaker 1>on RAW because the truth always comes out.

0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:04.560
<v Speaker 6>Pal.

0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I know you know everybody else knows this is your

0:38:08.680 --> 0:38:12.239
<v Speaker 1>last chance. One of two things is gonna happen, you're

0:38:12.239 --> 0:38:15.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna self destruct, expose yourself. I'll be the guy to

0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:18.160
<v Speaker 1>slam the door on your legacy. Or if by some

0:38:18.360 --> 0:38:21.560
<v Speaker 1>miracle you have changed, well, if you've got any gas

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:24.239
<v Speaker 1>left in that old tank, maybe one day you'll be

0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 1>lucky enough to get in the ring with me for

0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:28.680
<v Speaker 1>the world title. I will expose you for the fraud

0:38:28.719 --> 0:38:31.040
<v Speaker 1>that you are. I will show you there are levels

0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:34.239
<v Speaker 1>to this. I will wrestle circles around you. I will

0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:36.440
<v Speaker 1>let you understand in real time what it means to

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:39.400
<v Speaker 1>be the best in the world. And Punk says, are

0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 1>you done? That's your one pass to stand here, speak

0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:46.799
<v Speaker 1>to me disrespectfully without me coming after you. I've never

0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:49.319
<v Speaker 1>asked for anything to be handed to me. Always done

0:38:49.360 --> 0:38:53.759
<v Speaker 1>things the hard way. That's definitely one thing about seeing Punk.

0:38:53.840 --> 0:38:57.960
<v Speaker 1>He has always done things the hard way. He's entering

0:38:58.000 --> 0:39:02.360
<v Speaker 1>the Royal Rumble, and when he wins, maybe Seth he'll

0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:06.200
<v Speaker 1>be coming after him. I thought this segment was outstanding

0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:08.160
<v Speaker 1>out I.

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<v Speaker 6>Thought you'd say bootlooker or veruse hypocrite or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That was great. It's a great segment. Actually it really

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<v Speaker 1>was another great little match. It was short, but boy

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:24.719
<v Speaker 1>was it sweet Ivar and Bronson Reid. Literally the spots were,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's run into each other. Let's run into each other again.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's hit each other as hard as we can running

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<v Speaker 1>at each other. And then they fought up top. Bronson

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<v Speaker 1>Reid gave him a super plex off the top rope

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<v Speaker 1>pinned him.

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<v Speaker 6>That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Why does this thing keep going in a subscriber and

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<v Speaker 1>subscriber only mode? I don't mean nuts.

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<v Speaker 6>When I was a kid, they used to give us

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<v Speaker 6>King Kong, Bundy and Kamala as a as a gift

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<v Speaker 6>of two big guys who were bad guys, just slamming

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<v Speaker 6>into each other at top speed. And I can tell

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<v Speaker 6>you this, their top speed nothing like what you're getting

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<v Speaker 6>right now. Bronson, Reid and Ivar doing a hell of

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<v Speaker 6>a job going up against each other. This is a

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<v Speaker 6>kind of big cord fete.

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<v Speaker 1>I like, we had Judgment Day doing a promo and

0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:13.880
<v Speaker 1>poor Truth comes out he's acting stupid, and so they

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<v Speaker 1>game three weeks. Then they killed him. He was absolutely destroyed.

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<v Speaker 1>The Creeds ran down to make the save, which actually

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<v Speaker 1>you know now they think about it. I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>Truth will cost Judgment Day the match next week and

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<v Speaker 1>give the titles to the Creeds. Don't think that's impossible.

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<v Speaker 1>Punk ran into Drew and uh, the story years at

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<v Speaker 1>Punk kind of you know, nobody there really wants him there,

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<v Speaker 1>which sounds like another storyline I remember from recently. Katan

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<v Speaker 1>and Kaden beat Candice in Indie. That was quick. They're

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<v Speaker 1>getting a title shot. Next week, we had Becky coming

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<v Speaker 1>down to the ring and she calls out Naya Jacks Brian.

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<v Speaker 6>Look, I know you like them, but why all the

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<v Speaker 6>bad gymnastic routines. I mean, they have got to let

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<v Speaker 6>you you're the only one, brother, because everybody else has

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<v Speaker 6>got such apathy towards them that you know, they don't

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<v Speaker 6>care if they want a party or not.

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<v Speaker 1>No, they're they're they're much much improved, and they they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna work rings around Uh. I don't know about that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I ain't gonna work rings around vocas Chelsea. Chelsea

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna rings worked around her. Becky came down to

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<v Speaker 1>the ring and she calls out Naya, and Nica says,

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<v Speaker 1>you know I'm here, I'm not fired anymore. She says,

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<v Speaker 1>I punched you, and you know what was the best

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<v Speaker 1>thing that ever happened to you? And Becky says, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't hold anything against you. You've injured several people, almost

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<v Speaker 1>entered a few careers, And I said, that's why we're

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<v Speaker 1>still talking about me two years later. You have me

0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:45.320
<v Speaker 1>to thank for your career. Now, Becky's mad and basically

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<v Speaker 1>she wants to prove that she would have been the

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<v Speaker 1>man with or without Nya knocking her out. And she

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<v Speaker 1>says I came here for a fight. There's Nya to

0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:56.040
<v Speaker 1>hit her again. Nic says you need this more than

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<v Speaker 1>me and she leaves.

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<v Speaker 6>Becky said it all already.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>The whole deal with her is if the fans, once

0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:06.799
<v Speaker 6>the fans, once the blood dried up, the fans would

0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:08.560
<v Speaker 6>have left if they didn't care about me. And the

0:42:08.640 --> 0:42:10.880
<v Speaker 6>best Night could come back with is you need this

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<v Speaker 6>more than me. God, I hope they get rid of

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<v Speaker 6>this quick.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we had Imperium versus DIY and the MIZZ. Seems

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:23.359
<v Speaker 1>like there's great confusion about whether Twitch should be subscribers

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<v Speaker 1>only are free for this show. I thought it was

0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:28.279
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be free. Am I wrong?

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:31.000
<v Speaker 6>I thought it was free if you had the Twitch gimmick.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know anyway they can argue about that. While

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<v Speaker 1>I talk about this did I not mention the other day?

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<v Speaker 1>I did, in fact mention this. I'm sure that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have time to really go into all of this,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can listen to the Bryana Beannie Show Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>There were a lot of great things about AW when

0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:50.800
<v Speaker 1>they started that they're not doing anymore, and one of

0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:53.480
<v Speaker 1>them was, you know, let's find all the things that

0:42:53.960 --> 0:42:56.880
<v Speaker 1>dry people nuts about w WE and let's not do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of them was beating people in their hometown.

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<v Speaker 1>And it became a deal where like every time you

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<v Speaker 1>had to manchine your hometown in AW always won and

0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:08.759
<v Speaker 1>the fans were happy, there was never a problem with it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you know, now it's like people are losing

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<v Speaker 1>in their hometown frequently in AAW, including you know at

0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:20.000
<v Speaker 1>that show that collision taping, which had like what twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred people or whatever in the building, and you

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<v Speaker 1>bring out two point zero and they're so impossibly over

0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:28.080
<v Speaker 1>and you beat them, like you couldn't beat Commander, who

0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:31.200
<v Speaker 1>loses every single week. Commander beat them. And I pointed

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<v Speaker 1>out that, like it's kind of amazing, like all the

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<v Speaker 1>things that were great about AAW, you know, now WWE

0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:39.480
<v Speaker 1>is doing it, and AW is not doing it. Now

0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:42.560
<v Speaker 1>AW is beating everybody in their hometown. And here we

0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:46.759
<v Speaker 1>have Imperium versus DIY and miss And you know, I

0:43:46.800 --> 0:43:50.560
<v Speaker 1>had a guy going, well, you can't beat Commander and

0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:53.440
<v Speaker 1>uh Penta, they're gonna be going for some belts or something.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, you could make the same argument about gunthern Imperium,

0:43:58.000 --> 0:44:01.279
<v Speaker 1>but they had no problem beating them. Here with Di

0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:04.799
<v Speaker 1>Y and the Miz in the mizz and Johnny Gargano's

0:44:04.840 --> 0:44:07.080
<v Speaker 1>hometown and the fans were so happy.

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<v Speaker 6>And anyway, you don't actually have to book the match too, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the other one. Yeah, you didn't have to book

0:44:14.280 --> 0:44:16.040
<v Speaker 1>two point zero against guys who don't want to beat.

0:44:16.440 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 1>That's that's like the exact same thing we used argue

0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:21.600
<v Speaker 1>about WWE. It's like, why'd you meet this person the

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:23.200
<v Speaker 1>home down, Well, we can't be the other guy. What

0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:25.880
<v Speaker 1>would you put the match together for give the hometown

0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:28.360
<v Speaker 1>guy someone they can beat. We said the exact same thing.

0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:33.520
<v Speaker 1>It's now flipped. It's amazing. So anyway, d I Y

0:44:34.200 --> 0:44:36.680
<v Speaker 1>and Miss one and now miss is gonna get another

0:44:36.719 --> 0:44:39.560
<v Speaker 1>shot at Gunther. And then the main event was Cody

0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:43.560
<v Speaker 1>and Shinske and Shinsky blew the mist after like eighteen minutes.

0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I was ready, just like I can't take it after

0:44:45.640 --> 0:44:49.240
<v Speaker 1>a match that long, and the feud is just beginning.

0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Knockamur and Cody. That's what Cody has to do until

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<v Speaker 1>the Royal rumble back in the mom with more Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 2>You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez

0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:13.920
<v Speaker 2>and Mike simperviv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.

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<v Speaker 1>Got the show. Brian Albarez here Wrestling Observer Live, Mike

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<v Speaker 1>sombervb also of a Wrestling Observer dot Com. Tonight, Brian Vineen,

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<v Speaker 1>Granny Craig and Shawn show. We've got a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about. Granny will be on as always and also

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<v Speaker 1>we will be reviewing the December eighteen, nineteen eighty two

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<v Speaker 1>edition of World Class Championship Wrestling. Season one, Episode fifty

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<v Speaker 1>two is what we'll be watching tonight. We're watching all

0:45:53.800 --> 0:45:57.040
<v Speaker 1>the shows leading up to that big nineteen eighty two

0:45:57.280 --> 0:46:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Christmas cage match with Rick Flay and carry Von eric So.

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<v Speaker 1>Tonight once again, December eighteen, nineteen eighty two, Season one,

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<v Speaker 1>episode fifty two is what we will be watching so

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<v Speaker 1>you can watch along. We'll review it tonight the rest

0:46:13.120 --> 0:46:15.560
<v Speaker 1>of the fun stuff as well. I'll be posting on

0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:20.719
<v Speaker 1>Grannie's Facebook page momentarily what the subject is for the

0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:24.319
<v Speaker 1>Granny segment here tonight, So that's coming up, and then

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow we will be back here Observer Live as well

0:46:29.080 --> 0:46:33.680
<v Speaker 1>as the Lance Storm Show and Rustling Observer Radio Wednesday night,

0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:39.080
<v Speaker 1>No Dave, so may just be me going solo talking

0:46:39.080 --> 0:46:42.120
<v Speaker 1>to news and reviewing ae W. So that's gonna be fun.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the plan for the next couple of days,

0:46:46.600 --> 0:46:49.520
<v Speaker 1>and then we'll have a lot of mic shows the

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<v Speaker 1>week after because I'm going to be gone. Oh yeah, yeah,

0:46:54.280 --> 0:47:01.759
<v Speaker 1>I will be unavailable for shows for a week. Oh

0:47:01.880 --> 0:47:05.040
<v Speaker 1>the things that you can talk about, Oh the things

0:47:05.080 --> 0:47:06.600
<v Speaker 1>you can think, Mike, All the.

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<v Speaker 6>Things we're going to be talking about once this show is.

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<v Speaker 4>Over with.

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<v Speaker 1>What yeah you're not around, Well we'll have to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that now on Oh my God, get out of

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<v Speaker 1>here back next time, everybody, Wrestling Observer Live. You have

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