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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: This is Talking Cowboys straining live from the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: World Tours at the Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 3: Straight six second Pascot tisdown and.

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Speaker 1: Now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Nick Harris, John Mashoda and

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Speaker 1: Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 2: It's a Tuesday edition of Talking Cowboys presented by Black

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Speaker 2: Rifle Coffee Company. As we are live from Black Rifle

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Speaker 2: Coffee in North Frisco, Talking Cowboys on the road today,

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Speaker 2: as we break down, of course, what happened on Sunday

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Speaker 2: with the Dallas Cowboys and what's coming up in week ten.

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Speaker 2: Alongside John Matchoda, We've got Isaiah standback, Nick Arrists, Chris

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Speaker 2: Beam in the back of Kyle Yeomans. Everybody is here.

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Speaker 2: We are on site. It's a little bit different this

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Speaker 2: time around, John, but you've got the fireplace behind you,

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Speaker 2: you got the smell of medium roast in the air.

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Speaker 2: It's the perfect way.

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Speaker 4: To start the morning, right a coffee drinker.

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Speaker 2: I want yeah, I want you to lie. I uh,

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Speaker 2: good to be here, Good to be here, Isaiah.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to be here. You know I've been showed

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Speaker 5: shooting up Black Rifle Coffee Company for a minute now,

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Speaker 5: So uh, you got all the RTG, all the RTDs

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Speaker 5: in person. We got the brew right there, we got

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Speaker 5: the brew crew, got a big fella back there, you know,

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Speaker 5: making it happen. So I'm happy.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 5: I am a little confused as to why John and

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Speaker 5: I are sitting there to each other with a nice

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Speaker 5: little little fire behind us. We're gonna ask Beamer about

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Speaker 5: that one, but I'll pass it.

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Speaker 6: No, it's gonna be here.

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Speaker 7: This is a quicker drive for me this morning, so

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Speaker 7: I got like ten extra minutes and it was great.

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Speaker 2: A little bit closer than what the Star brings for you,

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Speaker 2: and a little extra fuel to go with it as well.

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Speaker 2: I've got my coffee on the way, really excited about that.

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Speaker 2: We've got the drip. Do you even know what the

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Speaker 2: like drip coffee is? Because you're not a coffee Okay,

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Speaker 2: you know of it, so that's that's good. You've got

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Speaker 2: the America's Team Blend in front of us, which is available.

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Speaker 2: I know they're on the shelves right over there too.

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Speaker 5: But then I'm flying walking out with a T shirt.

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Speaker 2: You're walking out with a T shirt. They got a

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Speaker 2: merchandise here too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I'm walking out with a T shirt today.

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Speaker 5: I'm a rep.

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Speaker 2: Okay, absolutely rep some Black Rifle coffee. They do a

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Speaker 2: great job in the community. Plus they've got their Frisco

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Speaker 2: grand opening. This is the soft opening of the North

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Speaker 2: Frisco store, but they have a grand opening on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Doors open at five am. It's a coffee shop, so

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Speaker 2: starts right. Got to get here early. The first fifty

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Speaker 2: in store customers receive a free twenty ounce yetti tumbler.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we should count as the first fifty.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we're here right.

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Speaker 5: Right now, I feel like but you know, I don't

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Speaker 5: mind getting here early. I'll do five am.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. If you didn't want just the tumbler, you

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Speaker 2: get a free batch brew coffee for an entire year.

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Speaker 5: Oh wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Real camping about.

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Speaker 6: At like three am though, you know it's gonna be popping.

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Speaker 2: See.

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Speaker 5: No, what happens is you got it's all about smoking distractions,

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Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. Oh look at that it

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Speaker 5: turns around. You just slide right in spot and they

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Speaker 5: can't move right.

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Speaker 2: I'm too big, right, You don't know who's going to

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Speaker 2: be showing up.

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Speaker 5: I might not want to mess with I just about.

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Speaker 2: To say, you might not want to mess around with it.

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Speaker 6: Box out.

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Speaker 2: But the address sixteen five nine nine farm to Market

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Speaker 2: Road FM for twenty three here in Frisco, Texas, five am,

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Speaker 2: doors open. Charlotte Jones will be here on Saturday. The

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Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders will be here, Rowdy will be here.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a whole lot of fun. But John,

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Speaker 2: we've got to get your thoughts first time here on

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Speaker 2: the show since you arrived back in Dallas from Philadelphia.

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Speaker 2: Twenty eight, twenty three final score of the Eagles over

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys. What are your thoughts from Sunday night?

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Speaker 4: So for me, going into the game, I thought that

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Speaker 4: was impressed on how when they came out and got

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Speaker 4: the way that they did, I was, I was genuinely

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Speaker 4: Francisco Part two. But then the third quarter happens and

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Speaker 4: you're just like, yeah, this could this could get out

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's you know, how much any times have

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Speaker 4: we talked about them being the strength of the team.

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Speaker 4: The defense had to play great, needed the defense to

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Speaker 4: show up, and they didn't in that third quarter, But

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Speaker 4: then they do in the fourth. I mean, just the

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Speaker 4: ups and downs of that game were wild, and then

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Speaker 4: to even get the chance to steal it in the end,

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Speaker 4: it was stunning. And I will say this, going in

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Speaker 4: but it certainly was a more positive locker room than

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Speaker 4: I can remember after any loss. I literally there isn't

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Speaker 4: even like a comparison. I can't even think of a

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Speaker 4: so maybe that's a good sign, you know, maybe that

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Speaker 4: they feel like that this is a building block and

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Speaker 4: they can take it's in a positive direction. The issue

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Speaker 4: is that now you're two and a half games back

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Speaker 4: against the Eagles, that's a must win. They have to

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Speaker 4: have that game. But there were a lot of good

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna sound like a therapist, and it's not just

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Speaker 2: because of the coffee and the fire behind me and

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Speaker 2: Following the loss, there is some positivity around it. I know,

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Speaker 2: we've talked about moral victories, we talked about the some

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Speaker 2: of those things you can rest your laurels on. Does

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Speaker 5: I think that is realistic, you know, everybody. I mean,

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Speaker 5: there's no moral victories, but there is facts and the

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Speaker 5: facts are earlier in the season, when you got your

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Speaker 5: butt kicked by San Francisco, the gap between you and

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Speaker 5: the teams that are on that level of competition was vast.

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Speaker 5: It was it was a freaking you know, it's an

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Speaker 5: And now all of a sudden, you play the Eagles,

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Speaker 5: guess what, you get the chance for redemption. So I

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Speaker 4: One other takeaway I wanted to share. I know that

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Speaker 4: But is that something that they have their topest part

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Speaker 4: his make his way through that. Obviously they can sit

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Speaker 4: understand how you're in if you're playing the Eagles, how

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Speaker 4: you're not trying to put big time shots on Jalen

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Speaker 4: Hurts right now, because it does look like just the

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Speaker 4: wrong tackle type thing like that. I mean, I didn't

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Speaker 4: even think the way Micah tackled him that it was

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Speaker 2: Or or it was the law it was de Law

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Speaker 2: fell on his knee that first first half year's.

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Speaker 4: One when when Micah like kind of you know, honestly

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Speaker 4: that to monitor going forward. But again just because how

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Speaker 6: Two piggybacks off that one.

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Speaker 7: You could see on the TV copy right after that

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Speaker 7: I was I told Patrick Walker next to me, I

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Speaker 6: I'm like, all right, so.

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Speaker 4: Well, they did a great death to building up the

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Speaker 4: hype out. Yes, when they came out, he was one

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Speaker 4: of the last people to come out of locker room,

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Speaker 4: I mean, you're sitting there like, are they really about

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Speaker 2: Well was Washington who stopped it, and then the very

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Speaker 6: Should be happening right as we speak, right now. Steven

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Speaker 6: Not a lot of production.

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Speaker 7: I believe it was eighteen receptions for one hundred and

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Speaker 2: We talked a little bit yesterday about Michael Gallup along

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Speaker 5: So about t Y and t Y, oh yeah, t

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Speaker 5: I don't see that if they do sign Brian I

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Speaker 5: If he didn't have a major impact in the XFL,

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Speaker 5: I can't see him doing it in the NFL.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he was drafted by Pittsburgh, spent three seasons there,

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Speaker 6: But I'm not sure.

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Speaker 7: We'll see, We'll see what comes out of this. I

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Speaker 4: So I'm trying to think, like, who they've added, like

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Speaker 6: Was Greg Hardy a mid season No, he wasn't okay.

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Speaker 4: Okay, and even that I think maybe that was more

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, if anything, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: I maintain that's the worst always a moved the last decade.

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Speaker 7: I thought you're talking more like mid season character guys

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Speaker 6: No, no, no, I was not speaking to him on

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Speaker 4: Give up a first round pick and you can get

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Speaker 2: Hey, there was mid season improvement there. Yeah, no, but

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Speaker 2: So what do you feel like Major Pain would say

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Speaker 5: Major pay is probably the only person I can get

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Speaker 2: That anything else.

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Speaker 6: John Friday is what I'm talking about already.

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Speaker 7: I just kind of highlighted the total pressures that have

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Speaker 7: Tyler Smith four only four pressures season, He's on an

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Speaker 7: lot of people kind of highlighting Steel in that moment,

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Speaker 7: which you know I would have.

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Speaker 6: It's very just.

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Speaker 7: And there was a question asked yesterday to Mike McCarthy,

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Speaker 7: you know, is Steel still the same pre post.

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Speaker 6: Injury as he was pre injury?

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Speaker 7: He's like, you know, it's still He's still gonna have

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Speaker 7: to like ramp up and you know, get used to

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Speaker 7: being back on the field in the.

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Speaker 2: Full full capacity.

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Speaker 6: So I get that's the first time I've kind of.

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Speaker 7: Heard concern post injury from Terrence Steele from anybody. Where's

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Speaker 7: where's y'all's confidence level and Sarren Steele and especially given

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Speaker 7: that they just paid him this offseason.

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Speaker 4: Two, that's the biggest one is that they Smith there,

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Speaker 4: Dalen Smith, you know, if it's going to be because

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Speaker 4: they just paid him. But I maintained that as much

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Speaker 4: as you know, we'll spend time on the draft and

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Speaker 4: and all that going into it. Like my leader in

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Speaker 4: the clubhouse by far is them drafting the offensive lineman

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Speaker 4: in the first round.

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Speaker 2: So I'm with you.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how that impacts, you know, steel and

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Speaker 4: everything like that. And obviously he needs play better, but

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Speaker 4: that was probably the one area on the team where

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Speaker 4: I was like, you know, and and and he obviously

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Speaker 4: stood out in terms of it. They just had to

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Speaker 4: be better late in that game, and if they were,

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Speaker 4: they were just if he just would have been solid

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Speaker 4: and that, and then I think the Cowboys win that game.

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Speaker 4: So I totally understand why white people are pointing to

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Speaker 4: that after the game for sure, but because of the contract,

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Speaker 4: I don't see where you'll be going in another direction.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I liked he still. Yeah, I mean, I think

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Speaker 5: he's having a little bit of a rough spell, but

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Speaker 5: I liked he still. I think he's a fighter. He's

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Speaker 5: probably the one dude if I had to ask anybody

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Speaker 5: on this office a line to go into a going

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Speaker 5: to a uh Ali with he STI would be one

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Speaker 5: of those guys, you know, if nothing him and probably

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Speaker 5: Tyler Smith. He's struggling. He's struggling, but he's also facing

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Speaker 5: some of the best dudes in this dog on the league.

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Speaker 5: So I mean take, you know, taking, give, give and take,

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Speaker 5: however you want to look at it that situation. You know, yeah,

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Speaker 5: he got paid, So if people have a level of

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Speaker 5: expectation that comes with that, I understand that. But he's

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Speaker 5: also coming off of freaking a c l you know, so.

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Speaker 2: You know, nine pressures against San Francisco, the twelve pressures

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Speaker 2: against Philly. When you're an opponent and you see a

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Speaker 2: week link, you normally try and attack it. Is he

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Speaker 2: the weak link on this offensive line to the point

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Speaker 2: where I think the pressure speaks that it is, because honestly,

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Speaker 2: one of the other things that stood out to me

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Speaker 2: about the tweet that Nick put out there was the

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Speaker 2: fact that Zach Martin has thirteen pressures or twelve, what

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Speaker 2: was it, thirteen pressures Tyler Biottish has fourteen, So they're

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Speaker 2: right there neck and neck in terms of pressures on

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Speaker 2: the interior. Now, interior pressures are not equal to tackle pressures.

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Speaker 2: We talked about that before. It's not the same, correct,

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Speaker 2: But whenever you have twenty eight pressures and there's that

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Speaker 2: much of a discrepancy, especially over two games against the

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Speaker 2: best two teams in the NFC, I think there is

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Speaker 2: a factor there that needs to be talked about as

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Speaker 2: him being the weak link, because if they're the best

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Speaker 2: teams in the NFC, they're going to use their strength

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Speaker 2: against your weak point. And if the week point is

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Speaker 2: a total of twenty one pressures allowed in two games,

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Speaker 2: then that's something I think of it. Of course, it's Bosa, Graham,

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Speaker 2: mixture of all those guys. He'll see Chase Young at

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Speaker 2: some point down the line.

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Speaker 5: Yes, you're getting literally the NFL's best. Yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 5: saying that it's okay for him to not be successful

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Speaker 5: against that, But you're getting Bosa, you know, had a

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Speaker 5: part in that. You're getting sweat, Sure had a part

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Speaker 5: of that. Brandon Graham, He's been sacking people for a

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Speaker 5: living his entire career. So yeah, he has to do better,

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Speaker 5: absolutely has to do better. But I don't I would

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Speaker 5: not put him as the weakest link on this on

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Speaker 5: this team right now, that's not the guy. He's the

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Speaker 5: guy has on an island. Now, tackles are on islands.

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Speaker 5: We all understand that, right, So they don't have if

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Speaker 5: they misstep at all, they get beat. They have one misstep,

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Speaker 5: they if they have one error in their blocking technique,

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Speaker 5: they get beat. Interior linemen not so much. Right, you

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Speaker 5: got help.

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Speaker 2: But even even Tyrone Smith and Chumadoga, who have played

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Speaker 2: the same competition that Terrence Steel has played, have combined

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Speaker 2: for less pressures by a significant margin over what Terrence

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Speaker 2: Steel was put out there.

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Speaker 5: I hear you again. It comes down to matchups. It

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Speaker 5: really just comes down to matches. I mean, you could

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Speaker 5: look at the analytics all day long to say, yeah,

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Speaker 5: his numbers are way higher. To look at who they're

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Speaker 5: facing as well. Right, Tyrn Smith's been out there for

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Speaker 5: you know, a couple of sneezes, and you know Cheumandoga

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Speaker 5: the same thing. Right, those guys haven't had the mount

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Speaker 5: of reps. Terrace Stale hasn't come off the field.

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Speaker 6: Well, I know, we haven't.

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Speaker 2: I know we haven't.

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Speaker 7: I know we've talked about internal pressures being different than

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Speaker 7: the tackles, but look at what the interior guys have

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Speaker 7: faced this year too.

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Speaker 6: Look at Tyler Smith.

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Speaker 7: Four pressures allowed. That's going up against Dexter Lawrence, that's

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Speaker 7: going up against U. I don't know, rattle off a

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Speaker 7: lot of the defensive tackles that this team is facing.

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Speaker 5: The whole right side is getting beat up, right, now,

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Speaker 5: for sure, the.

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Speaker 7: Left side is the strong side, and it's by a

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Speaker 7: healthy margin. I think there has to be some sort

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Speaker 7: of there has to be some sort of improvement from T.

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Speaker 2: Steel.

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Speaker 7: If we look up in five six weeks and this

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Speaker 7: trend is still happening with Steel, I think that's when

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Speaker 7: you look up and you're like, all right, Chuma, you've

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Speaker 7: done a good job filling in at left tackle. Let's

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Speaker 7: look at Tyrant right tackle. But I don't want to

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Speaker 7: get ahead of myself there. But I think those are

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Speaker 7: just conversations at a certain point. I don't think it's

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Speaker 7: just right now. I think there's still time for T.

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Speaker 7: Steel to be able to.

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Speaker 2: Pick it up.

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Speaker 7: There's three really good opportunities coming up against weak defensive lines.

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Speaker 5: So I think we gave We gave Michael Gallup two

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Speaker 5: years before we started saying maybe his knees not right,

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Speaker 5: you know, you know, Terry Steel. We're eight games into it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean you bring up Gallup. I mean

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Speaker 4: the elephant in the room is when they've given these

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Speaker 4: given guys new.

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Speaker 2: Like it's not just that.

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Speaker 4: I mean I'm talking look at like the last guys

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Speaker 4: that given new contracts too. I mean you're talking about

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Speaker 4: like Lyle Collins, Ezekiel Elliott, Jalen Smith, Michael Gallup, Terrence Steele. Like,

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's just a lot of completely understanding why

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Speaker 4: you would want to resign those players. There's no like

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Speaker 4: questioning any of that. But it's like, I don't know

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Speaker 4: if it's bad luck or what, but it's just one

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Speaker 2: But we talked in that first break about the offense.

656
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 2: We talked a lot yesterday about the offense. It's headed

657
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: in the right direction. There's lots of growth on that

658
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 2: side of the football. Defensively, have you seen a match

659
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 2: of that energy, John, whenever you're watching this team, Because

660
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 2: depending on who you ask after the twenty eight to

661
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 2: twenty three loss to Philly, some would say, of course

662
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 2: that the offense is to blame, The defense is to blame.

663
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 2: Everybody's to blame. Who knows where would you see the

664
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 2: defense and evaluate the defense over these last three weeks

665
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: since giving up forty two to San Francisco.

666
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,239
Speaker 4: I mean, I think that they've played pretty well. If

667
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 4: you can take that third quarter away against the Eagles,

668
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 4: they look like they're.

669
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 2: Supposed to look.

670
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 4: I mean, that is, you know, that is the strength

671
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 4: of this team. So point and I did think that

672
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 4: they played well enough for them to win the game.

673
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 4: In the fourth quarter, they came up with the sass.

674
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 4: The thing that really hurt them is that they were

675
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 4: able to get the ball out, but they just weren't

676
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 4: able to recover the ball against the Eagles. You know

677
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 4: that was the thing. Like I really felt for them

678
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 4: to win that game, they probably were gonna have to

679
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 4: win that turnover battle because that's such a big part

680
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 4: of what they do, you know, It's been such a

681
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 4: big part of their identity the last couple of years,

682
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 4: and for them not to win that that was a

683
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 4: big That was a big issue in that game. But

684
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 4: I guess I guess you could maybe want to see

685
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 4: some more pressures. I don't know, Like I don't really

686
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 4: have a lot of strong criticism of the defense. I

687
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 4: will say after the third quarter, I did think my

688
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 4: game story was going to be about the defense not

689
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 4: playing well enough. But it's hard to sit there and

690
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 4: not give them their props for that fourth quarter, because

691
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 4: it's not a game if they don't step up as

692
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 4: well so they can play better. But I don't sit

693
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 4: there and look at them it's like, oh, this is

694
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 4: all of a sudden an issue. It's not as good

695
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 4: as we thought it was, or anything like that.

696
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's surprising because coming into this game, Dallas was

697
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 5: zero to two when they lost the turnover margin, and

698
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 5: then they were five and oh when they tied or

699
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 5: or won the turnover margins. So this is their first

700
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 5: loss time on the turnover margin. But you can't. This

701
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 5: team needs to be grateful whenever you have turnovers, but

702
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 5: you can't say, oh we can we only can win

703
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 5: games when we get turnovers, right. It's just it was

704
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 5: one heck of a game. It's just flat out that's

705
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 5: what it was.

706
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 4: You got to have something that you know that kind

707
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 4: of tips it tips, I get it.

708
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 5: And they put the ball on the ground three times.

709
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 5: You didn't come away with any of them. The ball

710
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 5: just didn't bounce your way. Sometimes, you know, there's games

711
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 5: we're just like, dude, we can't, we can't. We can't

712
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 5: win for losing, you know. And it's like it was

713
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 5: one of those games where the ballgeres would not go

714
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 5: your way. They weren't putting it in the air to

715
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 5: have any errors in that regard to Ron Bland didn't

716
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 5: have any opportunities to have any pick sixes. So it's just,

717
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 5: you know, they took the l you know, hopefully they

718
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 5: can force them next time.

719
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 2: I get your thoughts real quick on this is this

720
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 2: the Cayenne.

721
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 6: I'll let y'all know when I could ever get down

722
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 6: to the far So good?

723
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 2: Is it frozen?

724
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 6: Is it?

725
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 2: It's just him on top.

726
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 6: This is honestly some good stuff with some grace.

727
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: Delicious, Yeah, but it.

728
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,479
Speaker 7: Was y'all are just gonna see me like I am

729
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 7: every morning, just drinking a drink, honestly, Yeah, normally you

730
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 7: have just a drink show, and I'm just like the

731
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 7: token drink.

732
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: Guy on this show.

733
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 5: Right now, he gives with cream on his lips. I'm

734
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 5: not telling him. I'm not telling him at all.

735
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 6: That's how I know you're a fake friend who needs friends.

736
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 4: I'll tell you.

737
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: Thank you, John.

738
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 7: Part of really quick on the defense, this is, uh,

739
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 7: try and change the two things that I highlighted from

740
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 7: the defense. You were talking about the turnover margin. Obviously

741
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 7: big deal of second time.

742
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 6: This year that they haven't been able to generate a

743
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 6: turnover and they're rolling two in those games.

744
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 7: The big thing for me, six games in a row

745
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 7: they've allowed points on the first possession.

746
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 6: They got to be able to come out the gates

747
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 6: a little.

748
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 7: Bit hotter, and when you look at the losses that

749
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 7: they've suffered in those six games, and how critical those

750
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 7: first drives were to not only setting momentum for the

751
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 7: opposing offense, but also just kind of like putting the

752
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 7: offense behind.

753
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 6: It's it's it's been really bad.

754
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 7: So you know, it hurt them really bad to get

755
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,479
Speaker 7: San Francisco, hurt them against Arizona. I'm trying to think

756
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 7: of some other games as well. At Chargers game and

757
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 7: had them playing from behind. You know, you take out

758
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 7: that opening drive touchdown, that's probably a much more wider

759
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 7: margin down late late in the game. And obviously on

760
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 7: Sunday night, and not only on Sunday night against Philly.

761
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 7: Was it the first half, it was the second half,

762
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 7: you know, coming out and allowing those back to back

763
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 7: touchdown drives out of the break, and they got to

764
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 7: be able to pick up momentum off off rip a

765
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 7: little bit better. That's that's the biggest knock I have

766
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 7: on this offen or on this defense right now.

767
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,719
Speaker 2: It's one thing to say you have to get off

768
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: to a better start, you have to play better from

769
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 2: the jump and get off to a hot start. But

770
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: when you say that, Nick, where where do you start?

771
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 2: How do you how do you get to that point?

772
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: And who on that defense needs to step up and

773
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 2: make a player? Or is it different every time? I

774
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 2: think it's different every time.

775
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 7: It's a unit thing, you know, it's it's a whole

776
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 7: I guess it would have to be commune just all

777
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 7: the way around. So whoever's wearing that green dot, you know,

778
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 7: that's the guy that's that's gonna be maintaining momentum in

779
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 7: those situations and being able.

780
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: To get off helped in that situation.

781
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, but it was the same when Layton was on

782
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 7: the field. You know, it's it's been six games in

783
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 7: a row. He hasn't been out for six games, So

784
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 7: there's got to be some sort of leadership step up

785
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 7: there in that sense and getting off the field, And

786
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 7: I know that was just an overarching big problem against

787
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 7: Philadelphia two seven for fourteen on third down that they

788
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 7: were I believe it was two for two on fourth down.

789
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 7: So they just got to be able to get off

790
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 7: the field. And that's that's the toughest thing I look

791
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 7: at whenever I look at, you know, a ten minute

792
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 7: drive a couple of weeks ago. I forget the opponent,

793
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 7: but it was a ten minute drive and a really

794
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 7: critical time of the time of the game. And then

795
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 7: you look at Philly in the second and the second half.

796
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 7: They started the third quarter these long, methodical drives where

797
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 7: they took ten minutes off the clock in the third

798
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 7: quarter with fourteen points and had them working from behind

799
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 7: and they never caught up. So they just got to

800
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 7: get off the field. That's my biggest thing against this

801
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 7: defense right now.

802
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 5: Do you missed the production of Vanderish.

803
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 7: No, I don't think so, because if you look at

804
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 7: what Marqu's Bell has done, it's been fine. And you

805
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 7: look at the running game, it's not like there's been

806
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 7: a significant change there.

807
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: Thanks, you know, if you look at something, I would

808
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 2: rather have Layton vander Esh and Marky's Bellark, Yeah, and

809
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: Demon Clark. I think de moon Clark's played well. And

810
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: I liked the intensity. Everybody's talking about Jason Kelsey because

811
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 2: the Kelsey name is hot right now, and that's kind

812
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 2: of everything him yelling at the moon Clark and kind

813
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 2: of dem Damon was in his face all the way through.

814
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: And that second year player who didn't play a whole

815
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 2: lot last year.

816
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 5: Girl, I'm here for it. But the thing is, if

817
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 5: so listen, I'm just asking a question, because this is

818
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 5: done on the roster. If you don't miss vander Esh,

819
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 5: do you take somebody off the field to put Vanderish

820
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 5: back on the field, Because you only use two linebackers,

821
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:44,719
Speaker 5: right exactly.

822
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 4: I don't think that there's been I don't think there's

823
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 4: been that for me that I know that there has

824
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 4: not been the drop off that I thought there would be. No,

825
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 4: I'm not and think it would be major, but I

826
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 4: think there'd be a little bit. But to your point,

827
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 4: I just think they're so thin at linebacker depth that

828
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 4: it would be nice to have.

829
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 5: No for sure, saying Benners comes back, does he go

830
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 5: back to starting and you take Markey's bill off the field.

831
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 4: And he would, Yeah.

832
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 7: Absolutely, But when you look into the off season and

833
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 7: you look at some potential things that they can do,

834
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 7: and not only in the linebacking corps, but at the

835
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 7: safety unit as well. You look at the one safety

836
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 7: that hasn't been signed long term and Jalon Curse is

837
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 7: starting safety Karalon Curse. You look at one Yea Thomas

838
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 7: has been able to do. You look at what Marky's

839
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 7: Bell has been able to do. You're able to slide

840
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 7: Layton vandrush back into that lineback and corp and then

841
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 7: rely on either Bell or Thomas if they don't want

842
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 7: to resign Curse.

843
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 6: So I think there's options that that Bell could have

844
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 6: after the season.

845
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 7: But once Layton van Rush is healthy, you have to

846
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 7: be able to plug him back in because he's not

847
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,919
Speaker 7: only valuable on the field with his with his play,

848
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 7: but like his presence as well. You can't take that away.

849
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 7: And Bell's never going to live up to that. Nothing

850
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 7: against Bell, like that's just not who he is.

851
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 5: I'd much rather have Baill speed than personally then that's

852
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 5: me personally sure. I just I think that Bell has

853
00:34:55,680 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 5: stopped a lot of the threats that you you that

854
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 5: you face opposition. You know, obviously not an Acres, but Eckler.

855
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 5: Eckler shut that down. He was a big, big reason

856
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 5: why he didn't get off the ground. He's able to

857
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 5: go sideline the sideline a lot more effectively than Vanner.

858
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 5: She's able to change directions a lot more effectively than

859
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 5: vander esh. I feel like batter Is is relatively stiff,

860
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 5: and I think that you're not losing anything by having

861
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 5: bail in there. I think you actually gain by having

862
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 5: bailed in there. I think there's assets that he provides

863
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 5: a Bantererest is not.

864
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 2: There are a couple of things here that I want

865
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 2: to dive into in the final segment, One with Jay

866
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 2: Ronkers two. When it comes to the defense as a whole,

867
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 2: is its still the front seven that sets the tone

868
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 2: or have we started to see a shift there as well.

869
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 2: There's a lot I want to kind of dive into

870
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 2: when it comes to the defensive side of the football.

871
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: I want to reminds you one more time. The Fristco

872
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 2: Grand Opening coming up on Saturday. Doors open five a m.

873
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,920
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Speaker 2: You're gonna pull a Kyle in twenty twenty and run

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Speaker 2: to the Star and back. But whenever you, whenever you

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Speaker 2: got down to the Cayen Pepper to live up to

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Speaker 2: the expectation, it did.

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Speaker 6: I felt it. Whenever it got a little kick, it

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Speaker 6: was a nice little touch.

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Speaker 5: Where'd you feel it?

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Speaker 6: Like right on the tongue, right on the tip, John.

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Speaker 2: Maud stand back nairriss, Yeah, appreciate it. Fantastic, Uh John,

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Speaker 2: John wants to leave so bad.

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Speaker 6: Just like the resident adult show.

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Speaker 5: He's just I feel like.

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Speaker 2: Maybe a little all right, John, when you're looking at

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Speaker 2: the back half of the schedule, of course, boys five

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Speaker 2: and three now eight games down, you've got nine to go.

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Speaker 2: When it comes to the back half of the roster

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Speaker 2: on the defensive side, who needs to continue to step

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Speaker 2: up and elevate their game as the year goes along.

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Speaker 4: Bell for sure, I mean, like we were just talking

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Speaker 4: about before, like he has exceeded expectations for what I mean.

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Speaker 4: He showed glimpses in training camp, but we've just seen

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Speaker 4: so many guys show glimpses in training camp and then

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Speaker 4: once the season starts, they kind of fade a little bit.

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Speaker 4: He just keeps Yeah, he just keeps taking it to

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Speaker 4: another level.

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Speaker 2: So that's crazy. We were talking about it in training camp,

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Speaker 2: I mean, similar setup in the U shape right in

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Speaker 2: front of the field, and we were talking about Janye Thomas,

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Speaker 2: Marquis Bell, and there are so many times where you

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Speaker 2: do have those camp names that elevate and then they

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Speaker 2: just don't ever show up. And both of those guys

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Speaker 2: have lived up to the expectation.

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Speaker 4: Jay Ron Curse another one, because we've seen jay Ron

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Speaker 4: Curse play really well over the last few years.

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Speaker 2: And do you think he's played well this year.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's I don't think he's played up

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Speaker 4: to what his standard is and what he was expecting.

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Speaker 4: And I say that because, you know, I thought he

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Speaker 4: would be the one that would be that would get

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Speaker 4: the offseason deal and he never did, And I thought

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Speaker 4: that was going to be like a major you know,

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Speaker 4: like fire light under him. Yeah, and yeah, he's I

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Speaker 4: know he has the ability, but he's the type of

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Speaker 4: guy that he needs to kind of take it to

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Speaker 4: another level for them to step it up on that

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Speaker 4: back end of the defense. I still think this defense,

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Speaker 4: if you tell me that they make a deep playoff

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Speaker 4: run go to Super Bowl, I would point more to

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Speaker 4: the front seven, though I would say that they would

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Speaker 4: probably have to play lights out. The D line just

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Speaker 4: would have to be rotating in guys where Sam Williams

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Speaker 4: making impact, Dorince everybody on top of the d Law

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Speaker 4: and Mike. I think that would be what you have

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Speaker 4: to do to get there. But if you're talking about

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Speaker 4: who needs a step up on the back end, I

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Speaker 4: think Jay run Kurrs is pretty high on that list.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, curses my number one in regards to that,

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Speaker 5: I would like to see the front line continue to improve,

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Speaker 5: but I want Curses to stop do less talking on

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Speaker 5: behalf of the team. I want to see him do

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Speaker 5: more hitting and more you know, guarding tight ends.

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Speaker 4: That's ice reporters like when they talk. Yeah, I know,

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Speaker 4: I know, I just I mean, I see a lot

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Speaker 4: on Twitter people say the same thing that you're saying.

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Speaker 5: Just you know, the talking talking aspect. Just just go

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Speaker 5: out there and hit somebody. Go hit somebody. You're a

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Speaker 5: big safety, go hit somebody. Make your presence felt. Right now,

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Speaker 5: I don't think anybody fears curse. You have no reason

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Speaker 5: to fear curse. You know, when you think about big safeties,

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Speaker 5: there's there's not a lot of safeties that have come

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Speaker 5: across this league that were his size, that that you

1013
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Speaker 5: that you can really put in a category of feared.

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Speaker 5: You know, there's Cam Chancellor and was my man Sean Taylor.

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Speaker 5: There's somebody. Only handful of big guys go hit somebody

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Speaker 5: right and and and make teams be fearful for crossing

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Speaker 5: the middle of the field. And I don't I haven't

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Speaker 5: felt that from him at all, nor have I felt

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Speaker 5: like he can totally eliminate a threat at the tight

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Speaker 5: end position this.

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Speaker 2: Year, sort of how Marquis Bell has been the X factor,

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Speaker 2: been an added plus to this defense this year. Would

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Speaker 2: you say jay Ron Curse was that X factor for

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Speaker 2: dan Quinn's defenses in twenty twenty one and twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: two kind of an unsung hero. You knew Michael Parsons

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Speaker 2: was going to be him, You knew DeMarcus Lawrence was

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Speaker 2: going to have the impact. He did, but jay Ron

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Speaker 2: Curse was not expected to be an impact player going

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Speaker 2: into that twenty twenty one season, but he was. Do

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Speaker 2: you feel like maybe that that new shine, that shimmer

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Speaker 2: from jay Ron Curse is just worn off and it's

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Speaker 2: a little bit different than still.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes guys get comfortable, okay, and guys lose their drive

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Speaker 5: and they lose that fire. And a lot of times

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Speaker 5: the reason why you see a surge in production in

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Speaker 5: contract years is because guys have a they have a why, right,

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Speaker 5: and their why is very is high. It's on high,

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Speaker 5: highest team, right, Like they're trying to go get that

1039
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Speaker 5: think it's their one opportunity. But sometimes when guys get comfortable,

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Speaker 5: what's what's their drive? You know now that we can

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Speaker 5: list out a whole bunch of things in terms of

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Speaker 5: what their why should be, and I think that Curse

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Speaker 5: falls into that categor He should have a lot of

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Speaker 5: wise but it's just not showing up. I'm not seeing

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Speaker 5: it on the field. I can speak from my opinion.

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Speaker 5: I'm not seeing I'm seeing more of this than I'm

1047
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Speaker 5: seeing him playing. You know, my guys, this my guys,

1048
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Speaker 5: we ready. You know you go go just go have

1049
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Speaker 5: an impact. Just go have an impact.

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Speaker 7: The initial question was somebody on the defense that needs

1051
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Speaker 7: to be able to elevate the rest of the season.

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Speaker 7: For me, it's Jordan Lewis, like far and beyond. I

1053
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Speaker 7: think he found a stride against Philadelphia, and the secondary

1054
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Speaker 7: as a whole found a stride against Philadelphia, did a

1055
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Speaker 7: really good job limiting those weapons, and Jalen Hurts only

1056
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Speaker 7: had just over two hundred yards passing. But when you

1057
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Speaker 7: look at the season as a whole and the biggest

1058
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Speaker 7: problems that they've had in the secondary, you can point

1059
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Speaker 7: at Jordan Lewis and be like, gosh, if he had

1060
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Speaker 7: just played a little bit better in this instance or

1061
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Speaker 7: that instance, then this would be a different result. Keenan

1062
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Speaker 7: Allen his match up against Keenan Allen is the first

1063
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Speaker 7: thing that jumps to mind. Obviously that wasn't a loss,

1064
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Speaker 7: but you needed to play into that game late because

1065
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Speaker 7: of the way Keenan Allen played in that game.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I just felt like Jordan.

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Speaker 7: Lewis has been kind of a liability at the at

1069
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Speaker 7: nickel at times the season. But at the same time, again,

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Speaker 7: I have to give him credit for bouncing back against

1071
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Speaker 7: Philadelphia having.

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Speaker 6: Some really good moments, but he wasn't perfect.

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Speaker 7: When you look at the cornerback room and let's let's

1074
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Speaker 7: throw in a healthy Trayvon digs into the equation.

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Speaker 6: Let's let's pretend for a second. Unfortunately, you look at Jordan.

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Speaker 7: Lewis's the biggest liability and I think it's I think

1077
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Speaker 7: it's a healthy margin. So that's something you talk about,

1078
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Speaker 7: especially going into next season with the way Deron Bland

1079
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Speaker 7: has been able to step up whenever Trayvon dis is

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Speaker 7: healthy again, do you re sign Gilmore and put Bland

1081
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Speaker 7: in at nickel or do you let Gilmour walk and

1082
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Speaker 7: put Bland outside and.

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Speaker 6: Still trust Jordan Lewis at that nickel.

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Speaker 7: I think that's going to be the biggest thing you

1085
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Speaker 7: look at over the course of the next nine weeks

1086
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Speaker 7: is do you trust Jordan Lewis to bring him back

1087
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Speaker 7: or do you trust stuff On gilmore More to bring

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Speaker 7: him back. That's a really interesting like head to head

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Speaker 7: that kind of is cooking up.

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Speaker 4: I think when you mentioned Jordan Lewis though, the thing

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Speaker 4: for me when you and then when you ask about

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Speaker 4: the back end of the defense, like, I do think

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Speaker 4: they'll be okay if those three can stay healthy Jordan Lewis,

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Speaker 4: Duran Bland, Stefanie Gilmore. Where I have concerns is if

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Speaker 4: they were to lose one of those guys, whether we're

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Speaker 4: talking just for half or for the rest of the season,

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Speaker 4: the next guy up, I think is a pretty notable

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Speaker 4: drop off there. I think you would have some major

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Speaker 4: concerns there. But if you can keep those three guys

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Speaker 4: together and and they just keep growing throughout the rest

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Speaker 4: of the season, I think they'll be fine as the

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Speaker 4: season goes on. I don't think that you need more

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Speaker 4: more than them. I think that that is a good

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Speaker 4: quality trio. They obvious you'd love to have Trevon Diggs,

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Speaker 4: but sure it just if you were to lose one

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Speaker 4: of those guys, uh, that's it could look like the

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Speaker 4: end of last season.

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Speaker 6: To that same point.

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Speaker 7: If you lose a guy on the boundary, Gilmore or

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Speaker 7: Deron Bland, then you're looking at Naseean Wright or no

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Speaker 7: Igbinoghany to fill in on the boundary. If you if

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Speaker 7: you lose Jordan Lewis Eth and Nickel, then you're looking

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Speaker 7: at Deron swinging in and still having that opportunity. But

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Speaker 7: there's also wan Yae Thomas as kind of the wild

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00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 7: card in that situation. I think he could be able

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00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 7: to play Nicol. You'd be able to trust him in

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Speaker 7: that moment, but he would have to he would have

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Speaker 7: to be able to step up.

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Speaker 6: And do that.

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Speaker 2: Isaiah's otherwise go back to preseason.

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Speaker 6: Look what he was able to do at n There

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Speaker 6: was a lot offers to check.

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Speaker 2: The tape Isiah, where he said, check the tape.

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Speaker 5: I love to guess it.

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Speaker 2: I mean we saw it last year from from ISRAELMA Israel.

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Speaker 2: Mcuamo filled in that corner whenever John john situation down

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Speaker 2: the stretch came to fruition and you had to have

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Speaker 2: an emergency cornerback. Now he played it in college. Janye

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00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 2: has always been a safety, so making that switch would

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Speaker 2: be a little bit tougher, but definitely not something that

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Speaker 2: I think Cowboys fans want to get to. Definitely they

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Speaker 2: want Jordan Lewis to continue to stay healthy and then

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Speaker 2: step up in that regard and continue to play better

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Speaker 2: as the season goes along. You mentioned Keenan Allens. I'll

1135
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Speaker 2: see the catch Keenan Allen maybe time ten thousand yards.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that thing was nuts.

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Speaker 7: When we talk about top receivers in this league, and

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Speaker 7: I feel like it's been like this for like a decade,

1139
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 7: Keenan Allen's name never gets brought up, and it's mister wise.

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Speaker 7: It's just a modeling at him and Mike Evans, just

1141
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 7: model of consistency.

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Speaker 2: Throughout their career. He made want insane catch. You should

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Speaker 2: look it up. I'm sure you. It was insane for

1144
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 2: his buck almost lost his mind in like a non

1145
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 2: factor game, and that takes a lot.

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Speaker 4: Let's just say, ad it's super late light out of Philadelpaes.

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Speaker 4: I didn't get back here. This is probably the latest

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Speaker 4: ever got back here.

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Speaker 2: So really, you gotta talk to your days or I mean,

1150
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Speaker 2: what was what was?

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Speaker 4: We'll talk about it.

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