1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:01,200 Speaker 1: Ladies and Jules. 2 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 2: You want experience during your football season, We'll buckle up. 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 3: Sweet cheeks. 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 2: We've got all the experience in the world. This is 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 2: I want your flex with Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon. 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: Mike and Dan break down everything you need to set 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: your lineups, from position rankings. 8 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 3: To starts and sits. 9 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: The guys help you make those hard decisions. And now 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: let's get your flex ond here's Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon. 11 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 4: All right, we've officially hit the off season of the NFL. 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 4: Welcome in. Get Mike on Twitter at Swollen Dome. You 13 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 4: can hit me up at Dan Byer on Fox, and 14 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 4: our executive producer is Ryan Berschinger hanging out with us. 15 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 4: Find him on x at Ryan Berschinger. The Kansas City 16 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 4: Chiefs are back to back Super Bowl champions, doing it 17 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 4: in overtime. Just three seconds left in that first overtime 18 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 4: to tackle the San Francisco forty nine ers twenty five 19 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 4: to twenty two, number three for Andy Reid, Mike and 20 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 4: number three for Patrick Mahomes. I don't think it was 21 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 4: a great game. It was a pretty darn interesting ending. 22 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 5: Well that just did right. It doesn't have to be spectacular. 23 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 5: It just needs to be close late and let the 24 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 5: stars come out and make some plays over the course 25 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 5: of the night. I guess you know, watching it, you 26 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 5: were in in stadium, so you didn't have the benefit 27 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 5: of you know, Patrick and SpongeBob or Nanson Romo or 28 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 5: the Hispanic crodcast, whatever you were looking at to help. 29 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:31,199 Speaker 3: Along the way. 30 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 5: But the fact that we weren't talking about officials, we 31 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 5: probably should have a little. 32 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 3: More than we did. 33 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 5: And you know, we're we're looking at the special teams 34 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 5: coming up big in the game. As you know, we 35 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 5: always talk about it being a third and we say 36 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 5: so normally with our tongue in cheek, except for those 37 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 5: rarefied kickers. But you know that's the part of the 38 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 5: tale of the tape. And you know we we got 39 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 5: more Mahomes. And if you didn't love him already or 40 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 5: hate him, you're even more entrenched in your belief afterwards, 41 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 5: right because it was more of the same. And like 42 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 5: we talked about a lot during the regular season, guys, 43 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 5: if you don't kill them, they will come back after you. 44 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 5: It's like, you know, the villain at the end of 45 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 5: a horror movie or whatever. 46 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 3: Else. 47 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 5: Really make sure they're dead before you turn and start 48 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 5: getting back to making out or listening to music or 49 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 5: having a drink or whatever the hell you're doing, Cuz 50 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 5: read Mahomes and Company will come for you. 51 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 4: You know. It's amazing. You mentioned the in game experience 52 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 4: versus watching on TV. One of the things that I 53 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 4: can tell you is I only saw Taylor Swift on 54 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 4: the Jobbotron twice. One of those was the chugging of 55 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 4: the beer, which got a lot of run, and then 56 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 4: another was during the pregame ceremony. I think it was 57 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 4: during post Malone's performance where they showed her on the screen. 58 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 5: Interesting because that was one of my questions I had 59 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 5: for you because it was fifty four seconds in the broadcast. 60 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 4: Yep. 61 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 5: So wonder if they just had decided to give one 62 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 5: of the Jumbo John screens Girl Together Sea, Here you. 63 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 4: Go, just just a live feed of her on there. 64 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 2: Yeah. 65 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 4: I thought it was interesting. And she was put in 66 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 4: in a spot where what they do is they go 67 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 4: around and they you know, like you would at a 68 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 4: Laker game or anything they do the celebrity use. Sure, 69 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 4: and she wasn't even in the first montage. She was 70 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,839 Speaker 4: in like the second or third one. So they did 71 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 4: a good job in terms of you know, mixing it in, 72 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 4: you know, that way of not making an obvious spectacle 73 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 4: of it. But yeah, I was curious to hear and 74 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 4: how many times she was on screen. And I've heard 75 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 4: eleven and I've heard twelve times, so you know about 76 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 4: a dozen. You just said fifty four seconds. She was 77 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 4: probably on the screen for about a total of fifteen 78 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 4: seconds in the stadium. 79 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 3: Wow, that's interesting. 80 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I would have thought in stadium if you're 81 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 5: not showing commercials, I mean, otherwise, what are you doing? 82 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 3: Raiders trivia? 83 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 4: You know what just Jet Jet the plays of twenty 84 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 4: twenty three, you know, like that that sort of stuff. Yes, 85 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 4: that's what a mixture of that, and they bring out 86 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 4: the Hall of famers, you know, and then you know 87 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 4: they so the the the here'll be a little trivia 88 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 4: for you. They bring out a great like of the 89 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 4: of you know, the team's past, and they bring him 90 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 4: out and you know, then all the fans cheer when 91 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 4: they see that that person. Would you guys like to 92 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 4: guess what great they brought out for the forty nine ers? 93 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 4: Do you want to take a guess? We don't have 94 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 4: to play this game, by the way, because I hate 95 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 4: it when people springing game. No, it's good. No, No, 96 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 4: I'm only doing it, not that you should get the 97 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 4: correct answer, but just because I think it is so 98 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 4: intriguing to see who was chosen for both teams. 99 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: I would assume Joe Montana. I know he was there, 100 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: Okay during the week. 101 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 4: You good with that? 102 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 3: Harmon, Yeah, I think i'd go with that. 103 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 4: Sure, it was Joe Montana. Joe Montana was the one 104 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 4: that they showed for the San Francisco forty nine. Yes, 105 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 4: who do you think they shown for the showed for 106 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 4: the Kansas City Chief. 107 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 3: Oh, this one's easy, okay. 108 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 5: Unemployed coach Mike Rabel since he already adopted the Patriots 109 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 5: now he's on his victory tour. 110 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: I was a chief also, Joe Montana. 111 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 3: That's nicely done. 112 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 4: It was Dante Hall really? Yes? 113 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 5: Not a priest home sighting not wow. No, not a 114 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 5: Tony Gonzales. 115 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 4: Nothing, nothing, Not a n stener Rude nothing. 116 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: Uh. 117 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,239 Speaker 4: Of course, we only think of Jan stener Rude as 118 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 4: a packer, so of course, right right, burse Yeah, you 119 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 4: don't even consider him a chief. 120 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: I don't know that he. 121 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 3: Knows before he's younger than I. 122 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 4: I don't know that. That's when all the kickers were 123 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 4: from Europe and uh spent like eighteen years in the NFL. 124 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they all look like they smoked it. 125 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 5: I'm not as alleging anything, but they all look like 126 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,239 Speaker 5: they smoked two backs a day and we're twenty years. 127 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 3: Older than they were. 128 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 5: Oh, it's like a lot of the wrestlers of the 129 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 5: late eighty Wait, that guy was forty. 130 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 4: Man. You're seeing har Harrison, Butker and Jake Moody kick 131 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 4: fifty five plus yard field goals. I know, Butcker's was 132 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 4: like fifty seven. And then you just see, as Mike says, 133 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 4: these guys are like smoking on the sidelines and still 134 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 4: you know, booting them through. Quite a different game. But yeah, 135 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 4: I thought that. I thought that was unique. The crowd cheering, 136 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,239 Speaker 4: you know, like if you had Christian Kakoye, you know, sure. 137 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 4: And by the way, they went nuts for Dante Hall 138 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 4: and he was he was sidlayer for them. But when 139 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 4: you have it next to Joe Cool and you're right 140 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 4: burst the chief should have just lent them for another one. 141 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 3: You know. 142 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 5: And now he's got like one of those jerseys half 143 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 5: and half Christian Nakoya was just out here for a 144 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 5: big promotion and they did with a five seventy or 145 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 5: our flagship in LA that he showed up with Eric 146 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 5: Dickerson and stuff. Oh, it would have been easy to 147 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 5: get him out there in theory. 148 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 4: I know, Mike, I know you've been around all these 149 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 4: guys and I've been fortunate. Is enough as well? You 150 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 4: want to know where I met Christian Okoya? Bathroom at 151 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 4: a Hooters in Indianapolis. 152 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 5: At in Indianapolis. Now there's the random Hooters. Okay, back 153 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 5: in the day. I know we did some promotions the 154 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 5: work yet we did. 155 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 4: We did in the Super Bowl forty six, he was, 156 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 4: you know, obviously came by the set uh to join 157 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 4: the show, and there was some time to kill and 158 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 4: so he sat at a table with me and that's 159 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 4: where I shot the bull. 160 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 3: I love that. That's fantastic. Wayne. There you got any photos? 161 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 4: Oh no, because it was so long ago, there's no 162 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 4: Maybe I had my digital camera back then, maybe that 163 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 4: was it, but it probably wasn't coming on my phone. 164 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 4: Oh man, look at that. 165 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 3: Ah yeah, memories, baby, memories. 166 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 4: Ah yes, So what are you going to remember from 167 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,679 Speaker 4: Super Bowl fifty eight? Mike Harmon from this game. 168 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, look selfishly and I said it on 169 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 5: the show bersh was working with Smith and I on 170 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 5: Monday night. I will get to for his long at 171 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 5: Smith and I are working together, remind him that a 172 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 5: guy that wasn't good enough to get on the field 173 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 5: with the Jets caught the game winning touchdown pass in 174 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 5: a Super Bowl and mcgol Hartman. 175 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 3: So that's part one. 176 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 5: Defensively, I mean, Chanal was fantastic to the biggest plays 177 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 5: of the game, but because of the way it flows, 178 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 5: he's an afterthought. Right the strip of McCaffrey for the 179 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 5: fumble on the opening drive where the forty nine ers 180 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 5: are moving very quickly, like that felt like whoa, whoa, whoa. 181 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 5: Here we go right off the jump and then you 182 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 5: get the big fumble and then he gets a hand, 183 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 5: one of two guys to get a hand on the 184 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 5: blocked pat from Moody. So some big plays there, you know. 185 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 5: And Patrick Mahomes he made plays with his legs, right. 186 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 5: He finished with three hundred and thirty three passing yards. 187 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 5: That's fine. The two touchdowns. There's not a defender within 188 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 5: ten yards of those guys. Yeah, right, So great play call. 189 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 5: Obviously going back to the Kadarius Tony call just more 190 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 5: or less the same formation, same play and everything else. 191 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 5: And then you had the MVS that you had tweeted 192 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 5: about because you talked about him, and he made a 193 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 5: pop for you with that touchdown reception Dan, but coming 194 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 5: off of the punt right, So you have that. But 195 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 5: for me, it was Patrick Mahomes' biggest plays came with 196 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 5: his legs. For all of the talk about his arm 197 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 5: and thirty three thirty three and a couple of touchdown 198 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 5: passes whatever, like he wasn't threadning the Kniels. It was 199 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 5: a lot of dink and dunk and some open receivers 200 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 5: and then defensive backs who suddenly did forgot how to 201 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 5: play defensive back on the fifty two yard or to 202 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 5: McCole Hardman, you know, the turnover worthy throws we talked about, Dan, 203 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 5: I'm still counting that as one even though it ended 204 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 5: as a fifty two yard reception. But but I'm gonna 205 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 5: remember that Patrick Mahomes stamp on this was that he 206 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 5: ran for sixty six yards, including big runs when it mattered. 207 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, that that fourth, the fourth and inches, you know, 208 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 4: and again they they don't sneak after he hurt his knee, right, 209 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 4: you know, they don't do that anymore, and then the 210 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 4: run to set them up inside the red zone in 211 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 4: that overtime. By the way, it was Burst who was 212 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 4: on MVS. 213 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, yeah, no, that's okay. 214 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 4: I just want to give him the the you know, 215 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 4: give him where credit was due. I swear to god, guys, 216 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 4: I was going to have first touchdown score be Juwan Jennings. 217 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 3: Oh but a hat trick too though. 218 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. But he would have thrown it so 219 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 4: I wouldn't have counted. You know, I would have bet 220 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 4: that would have been a kick in the you know. 221 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, that would have sucked. 222 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 4: First, what are you going to remember about Super Bowl 223 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 4: fifty eight. 224 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: I think ultimately I'll remember the ending as as a 225 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: game as a whole. Through the first half, you kind 226 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: of were watching the game going, this is a is 227 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: a bit of a mess. Like it's just fumbles on 228 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: both sides, really not a lot of offense going, and 229 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: it was it was hard to really get a feel 230 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: as to who was winning that game because it was 231 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: it was basically the same things happened to both happening 232 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: to both sides. And the second half too, I mean 233 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: obviously because of the score, Like it was an incredibly 234 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: even game, and and there was much of the game 235 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 1: where I thought that the Niners were going to win, 236 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: but you just felt like the Chiefs were still going 237 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: to hang around long enough to do what whatever was 238 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: needed because ultimately, when when when any team got into 239 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: the red zone, the defenses showed up and and they 240 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: made stops at points when they needed to. I think 241 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: the the special teams aspect on both sides. Again, both 242 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: kickers who you know, Jake Moody had his issues coming 243 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 1: into throughout the season as a rookie, but he looked great. 244 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: Bucker Is is performing phenomenally as a postseason kicker. He 245 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: had a great game. And Chris Conley for the Niners 246 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: making huge plays on back to back punt returns. Like 247 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: the special teams was actually rather impressive on both sides. 248 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 1: So I think what was great about this game is, 249 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, Dan, we're not talking about officiating. We're 250 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: not talking about like I mean, yes, of course there 251 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: was the blocked extra point that did make a big difference, 252 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: but that wasn't a missed extra point, that was a block, 253 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: So it was you know, it's hard to like really 254 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: fault it, so we're not sure. There's talk about the 255 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: overtime rules and the way that things were handled in overtime, 256 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: but I think overall, even with all these excess things, 257 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: the game was really truly decided by the two teams 258 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 1: performing the way they did. Mahomes was fantastic using his legs, 259 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: and I look at it from a fantasy perspective, like 260 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: when you throw in his rushing yards with those passing 261 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: yards he finished just I have four hundred yards total there, 262 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: so a phenomenal fantasy performance. As you mentioned Dan, because 263 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 1: of the injury that he had last season, we haven't 264 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: seen those rushing numbers from Mahomes. So you watch this 265 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: game going, man, it'd be really nice to have a 266 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes again in fantasy who's throwing for three hundred 267 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: and rushing for fifty a game that that would just 268 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: be incredible. But that's just simply not going to happen 269 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: because desperate times called for desperate measures, and Mahomes got 270 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: those yards on the ground when he needed to, and 271 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: he looked great. But yeah, overall, I think because of 272 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: the ending, especially, we'll remember that overtime and the way 273 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: things went down, and I like the fact that the 274 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: new overtime rules came into play in a way that 275 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: really did feel fair. 276 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 4: And even at the end, Yeah, it was. 277 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 3: Well take us inside. 278 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 5: You were there with the energy flow back and forth, 279 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 5: whatever the in house DJ was doing. Because the other 280 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 5: guy had a family. Yeah, yeah, Cascade showed up. 281 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, Cascade, and it was a waterfall of beats. I'm 282 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 4: telling you it was them. That's true. The uh here's 283 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 4: I'll take myself. So I'm sitting there watching the game, 284 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 4: and I thought to myself, if I'm at a Super 285 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 4: Bowl party right now and it's midway through the third quarter, 286 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 4: I probably have lost interest in this game. Like I 287 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 4: am more talking with people, or I'm going back for seconds, 288 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 4: or I go to take a leak, and I'm just 289 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 4: staying in there, you know, a little bit longer because 290 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 4: I don't need to rush back, and you know, go 291 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 4: and watch the game because there was nothing to miss, 292 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 4: you know, even a guy that was sitting next to me. 293 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 4: Because everybody stays for halftime, Like nobody goes and rushes out. 294 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 4: They all want to watch half them. Then when halftime ends, 295 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 4: that's when people get out of their seats. And you know, 296 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 4: run to the restroom or whatever they do, and the 297 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 4: guy goes, you know, make sure nothing happens, and and 298 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 4: he comes back, he goes, thanks, you know, because nothing 299 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 4: did happen. 300 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 3: You missed and then nothing. It was an opportunity. 301 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 4: No, yeah, that was but you know, like again, like 302 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 4: there was just there wasn't a lot of buzz and 303 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 4: it was a very pro Niners crowd. And it's not 304 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 4: that Kansas City didn't represent. It's just where, you know, 305 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 4: the western part of the US. There are a lot 306 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 4: of Niners fans in a lot of places. It's easy 307 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 4: to travel, you know, all of that. You're just getting 308 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 4: more you know, you're getting more fans, but you wouldn't 309 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 4: have known it because there was not a lot to 310 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 4: cheer for, you know, like that, and so that was 311 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 4: the unfortunate part. And so like when I sit there 312 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 4: and I look back and I think of when am 313 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 4: I going to remember? I think that the only thing 314 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 4: I'm going to remember is that last touchdown. There wasn't 315 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 4: a play guys in there that I'm thinking, ooh, that's 316 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 4: going to stand that. You know, that's going to be 317 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 4: one we're going to remember. And I think in a 318 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 4: lot of times good or bad, you know, even you know, 319 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 4: Super Bowl fifty was kind of a crappy game between 320 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 4: the Panthers and Broncos. We remember Cam Newton not diving 321 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 4: on the football, you know, like you like, that's like 322 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 4: that's a play, and like this one for like what 323 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 4: it was. You know, Travis Kelsey's play to set them 324 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 4: up near the end of regulation was nice. The Juan 325 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 4: Jennings you know, touchdown pass to Christian McCaffrey. But in 326 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 4: the end, that's what I'm just gonna take from it. 327 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 4: I don't know how history will look, you know, back 328 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 4: at this Super Bowl, but you know, for as great 329 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 4: of an ending as it was, I don't think that 330 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 4: it's gonna have its imprint in like super Bowl history. 331 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,479 Speaker 4: It's gonna be another one for Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes. 332 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 4: I don't even think as a Niners fan, you know, 333 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 4: you came so close to winning this and you're obviously 334 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 4: it's just stings and you're you're kicking yourself, but like, 335 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 4: are you sitting there you looking back at that fourth 336 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 4: down play? You know, are you looking back at trying 337 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 4: to stop them? And you know at the goal line. 338 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 4: I'm just curious on what play for San Francisco. You're 339 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 4: gonna sit there and you know, kick themselves on. Well, 340 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 4: I got the one, you got the one. 341 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 3: I got the one. 342 00:16:55,880 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 5: It's overtime, third down, Chris Jones, guy, you have to yeah, 343 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 5: you know, because that's that's the. 344 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 4: Hat trick for Jennings when on offense. 345 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, that's the. 346 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 5: Hat trick for Jennings right there, And it's a touchdown, 347 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,479 Speaker 5: and all of the arguments of taking the ball, not 348 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 5: taking the ball, whatever our moot, because you scored your touchdown, 349 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 5: you finished the drive. Instead, he comes through unchecked. Purdy's 350 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 5: got to get rid of it a second earlier than 351 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 5: he wants to because Jennings was wide open, right, so 352 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 5: he doesn't get the right trajectory on the ball and 353 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 5: it falls harmlessly for an incompletion, Like that's the one 354 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 5: that's going to stand for me, because we've seen tip 355 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 5: balls throughout the night, right, because we saw you know, 356 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 5: good pressure up the middle, and a number of balls 357 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 5: that you know they got fingers on or you had 358 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 5: to pretty kind of short arm it to try to 359 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 5: get it out of there, including one that could have 360 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 5: started to look like the tuck rule at one point. 361 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 5: But then that play, you know, money on the line, 362 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 5: the guy that held out, and we joked about it 363 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 5: all off season of you know what happened with all 364 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 5: the running backs and everything else. Coming back to play. 365 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 5: This guy's got a Super Bowl ring and he's got 366 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 5: Andy Reid diving on him after the game because of 367 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 5: that that play, Like he did a lot during the game, right, 368 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 5: even if the stats don't show it, but that play 369 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 5: disrupted at all. Otherwise, Patrick Mahomes and company have to 370 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 5: come down and they have to score a touchdown. 371 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's the reason they beat Buffalo, pushing Dion Dawkins 372 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 4: into Josh Allen when Shakir's yeah wide opening the end 373 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 4: zone and if Allen gets you know anything on that throw, it's. 374 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 3: Uh right, just enough to disrupt it. 375 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 4: Yep, yep, Yeah, absolutely good point. Let's continue the overtime 376 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 4: conversation because there is so much to talk about that 377 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 4: it is. I want your Flaxars recap of Super Bowl 378 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 4: fifty eight. Hit Mic up at Swollen Dome, hit Ryan 379 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 4: up at Ryan Berschinger. It's just Ryan Berschinger, right, not 380 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 4: the Ryan Berson. No. Yeah, yeah, I didn't think so. 381 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 5: Remember I figured that because if you spell thee. It 382 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 5: might be a guy that's hijacked your That's. 383 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 4: True, that's true. It only took me eighteen weeks in 384 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,120 Speaker 4: the playoffs to double check with Ryan on that one. 385 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 4: Hit me up at Dan Byer on Fox. We'll talk 386 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 4: about all the talk about overtime and who knew what 387 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 4: and who didn't know what. That's next year and I 388 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 4: want your flex. All right, we're on our second half, 389 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 4: but we are talking overtime. Is I want your flex? 390 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 4: I'm Dan Byer, That's Mike Carmen, Ryan Berschingers, our executive producer. 391 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 4: We are all hanging out. I got to lay out 392 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:25,719 Speaker 4: where I was brought into this overtime conversation because I 393 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 4: will readily admit and I did not think twice as 394 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 4: the coin toss was happening in that stadium that San 395 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 4: Francisco actually had a decision. And it wasn't until I 396 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 4: did an interview for the network with Aaron Torres and 397 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 4: Jason Martin that they asked me about it, and they 398 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 4: said a lot of people are talking about this, you 399 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 4: know on social media. Did the forty nine ers making 400 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 4: you know an error in it? And I gave my 401 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 4: reasoning and I thought that the Niners defense ended up, 402 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 4: you know, needing a break at that point point, take 403 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 4: the ball, put the pressure on Kansas City. I think 404 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 4: we're getting a lot of hindsight is twenty twenty now 405 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 4: when this situation is going on. But I will readily 406 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 4: admit I did not think that Fred Warner when he 407 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 4: went out there called tails and it was tails and 408 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 4: they won the toss, made the wrong decision. And even 409 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,479 Speaker 4: as we sit here and we record this podcast, I 410 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 4: still am not sure that he made the wrong decision. 411 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 4: I think if I would have done it again, I 412 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 4: probably still would have taken the football. Where do you 413 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 4: stand in all of this. 414 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 3: Mic, I would agree one hunred percent. 415 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 5: You know, in the moment, you know, I was chatting 416 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 5: Bucky Brooks, you know we do the Sunday Morning Show. 417 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 3: We were going back and forth a little bit. 418 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 5: I'm like, you know, aggressive putting the ball in the 419 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 5: offensive hands. He goes, oh, he's trusting that side, right, 420 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 5: And certainly we look at after the punt debacle right 421 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 5: off the foot and then the quick score by the 422 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 5: forty nine or by the Chiefs. They'd scored what that 423 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 5: was four straight possessions, right, and you talk about the 424 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 5: second half of the fourth quarter, there were two drives 425 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 5: that were twenty three plays right, and most of the clock, 426 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 5: most of the final six minutes occupied there by the Chiefs. 427 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 5: By the way they brock Purty number was rushing yards 428 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 5: was thirteen when he knelt down to put it to overtime. 429 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 3: Guess what twelve yards? 430 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 5: So and then we have the final score twenty five 431 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 5: twenty two, the over under forty seven and a half. 432 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 5: I also lost on a squares because they didn't kick 433 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 5: that extra point. 434 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 3: But that's a whole other thing. 435 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 5: But I've agreed with it, you know, the more you 436 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 5: think about it, and again going back to what that 437 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 5: defense looked like, because remember the first half, they're flying 438 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 5: all over the place. You know, we had talked about 439 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 5: it last week and setting things up of you know, 440 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 5: they're gonna need Chase Young to appear and not okay, 441 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 5: where was Chase Young in the fourth quarter? And he 442 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 5: was all over the place, and Bosa was all over 443 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 5: the place. And there's certainly screenshots of him getting hugged 444 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:57,479 Speaker 5: and loved by the offensive line of the Chiefs, But 445 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 5: that's neither here nor there. They don't call it. It's 446 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 5: not a right wing wink. But the idea that you know, 447 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 5: you're putting your offense out there, you come out with 448 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 5: a great game plan and then they executed right, that 449 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 5: was a great drive and then it stopped short and 450 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 5: we chronicled it in the at the end of the 451 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 5: first segment here of you know that play but for 452 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 5: another second is a touchdown. And now he looks like 453 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 5: a genius, assuming Wilkes and the defense can can hold 454 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 5: serve I. 455 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 4: I you know, I also don't think that it helps 456 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 4: the forty nine ers cause when players are like, we 457 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 4: didn't know the rules. 458 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing, right. 459 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 5: The optics of that, yeah, is bad, and it doesn't 460 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 5: look like well on the relationship. 461 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 4: I don't think sure. And then you know the Chiefs 462 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 4: saying like we practiced this in training camp, but also 463 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 4: like the Chiefs going for two in that scenario like that, 464 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 4: you know, that's you know, Patrick Mahomes said that I 465 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 4: don't know if we should have said this, but we 466 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 4: would have gone for two, and I I just I 467 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 4: don't That's where I think kindsight is twenty twenty. I 468 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 4: you know, maybe they're lying to us. I'm not sure. 469 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 4: It's just that's it's a really gutsy call, especially for 470 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 4: a team that we have chronicled on this podcast that 471 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,959 Speaker 4: has had such trouble scoring in the red zone, that 472 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 4: you're gonna put it unless you have the one play 473 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 4: that you've been saving all season long, you know, for 474 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 4: that moment. I just I have a tough time believing Burst. 475 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 4: Where are you on what the Niners did or maybe 476 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 4: should have done. 477 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, the more I've thought about it, the more I 478 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: think I agree with their call to start with the ball, 479 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: because I actually think that Shanahan's response to we wanted 480 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: ball third makes sense. I think when you ultimately look 481 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: at it, are you really going to say, let's just 482 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: give Patrick Mahomes the ball to start over time? 483 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 3: Like it? 484 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: It feels weird because then you're just putting yourself in 485 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: a position where you you know, at worst you have 486 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:56,239 Speaker 1: to tie Patrick Mahomes. And so I get it. I 487 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: think that it does make sense because you start with 488 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: the ball, you you kind of you're not putting the 489 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: same pressure on yourself as you would if you're getting. 490 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 5: Discussion, right, if they're give up three or they give 491 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 5: up seven. Now now you have to perform at it, 492 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 5: and it be that much more precise yeah. 493 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's you're if you are electing to go second, 494 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: you're you're most likely going to be playing from behind. 495 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: And and I get that it does. It does make 496 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: a difference in your aggressiveness, but also like that that 497 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: difference and aggressiveness can come back. 498 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 4: To bite you. 499 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: So I I I think they do. They did make 500 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: the right call at the end of it, and I 501 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: I'm with the players. I forgot that the overtime rules 502 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: had changed. I was. I completely forgot that that was 503 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: the thing. It doesn't surprise me that the Chiefs practiced 504 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: it because like they were in the game that made 505 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: that happen. So it's it is. It is different. These 506 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: are two teams coming from at at it from a 507 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: from different places of experience. 508 00:24:58,880 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 509 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: I straight up forgot when the when overtime first started, 510 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: I was like explaining to my fiance that it's like, 511 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: all right, well, whoever starts out with the ball, if 512 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 1: they score a touchdown, the game's over. And then they 513 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: put up the graphic and I went, oh, that's right. No, 514 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm I'm wrong. 515 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 4: How about this. I had somebody text me that they 516 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 4: thought that over time was running out and that the 517 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 4: Chiefs are going to run out of the time. That was. 518 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 5: They didn't do a good job of explaining that, you know, 519 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 5: on the broadcast, Like they failed there. I wouldn't have 520 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 5: expected SpongeBob and Patrick to take care of it, but 521 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 5: I certainly expected a little more depth. 522 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 4: It was. 523 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: It was the y two K of the NFL, Like, 524 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: what is going on? What happens if zero this overtime ends? 525 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: What is going to happen? 526 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 4: It reminds me in soccer, like, you know, somebody scores 527 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 4: in the first fifteen minutes and you're like, okay, we're oh, 528 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 4: we're not done. Okay, we got to play some more. Yeah, wait, 529 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 4: now we have another. 530 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 3: Halftime, plustes, let's go. 531 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, now there's another Yeah, now there's injury time. Stop 532 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 4: much time? Like what are we doing here? Like? So 533 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 4: it was he was confusing to a lot of people. 534 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 4: There was no two minute warning, you know, but but 535 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 4: yet you get three timeouts, right, you know, Like well. 536 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 5: And that's the other thing is that the forty nine 537 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 5: ers didn't utilize those go back and I referenced Carl 538 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 5: Loftus before, how the hell does he get to sit 539 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 5: on the field for nine minutes or whatever the hell? 540 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 5: It was with her finger like get off the field, 541 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 5: like the forty nine ers are driving this guy gets 542 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 5: to sit down while he's looking at it and flexing 543 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 5: his banky and crap, like what is this? 544 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 4: I wish I wish they would have just waited one 545 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 4: more place so we could have gotten double over time. 546 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 5: We manus when more conspiracy theory. Yeah, because McManus had 547 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 5: brought that up during the week, they. 548 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 4: Also would have changed ends of the field and they 549 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 4: would have been wouldn't have been so far away from 550 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 4: us where we were sitting in the you know, four 551 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 4: rows from the top of Allegiant Stadium. Again treating the 552 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 4: media well, by the way, we deserve to be up there. 553 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 4: So not complaining at all. The two things that I'll 554 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 4: say because I I thought a lot about this over 555 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 4: the last twenty four hours, and I think that we 556 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 4: get swayed by the college rule where you're already in 557 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 4: field goal position, and I think that is it is 558 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,479 Speaker 4: it is a I think it's maybe not completely different, 559 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 4: but I think it's very different from starting in a 560 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 4: spot there where like yeah, if you get a you know, 561 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 4: stop or they miss a field goal, then you're like, okay, 562 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 4: we just can't run any plays that take us out 563 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 4: of field goal range, like you're basically just sitting on 564 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 4: the ball in college football, that's not what this is. Like. 565 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 4: This is you know, your opportunity to make a team 566 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 4: drive eighty yards down the field. This isn't You're already 567 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 4: in scoring opportunity. So that lends me to think that 568 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 4: Fred Warner and the Niners made the right decision in uh, 569 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 4: you know, in choosing tales because I just we hate 570 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 4: you know, I don't know anybody who really likes the 571 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 4: college you know rule I makes you think they should 572 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 4: start at the thirty five. Make them at least accomplish something, 573 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 4: and that that's my second point is the one thing 574 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 4: that the forty nine ers have to do and this 575 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 4: is any team that does do that and chooses to get, 576 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 4: you know, to take the football, you have to do 577 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 4: something with it. On that job. You can't go three 578 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 4: and out because now you're punting back and you're giving 579 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 4: that team the ball at around the thirty, you know, 580 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 4: maybe thirty five yard line, and now they only do 581 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 4: need the field goal to win, so they need on 582 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 4: you know, twenty yards to do it. There is more 583 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 4: pressure on the offense to do something in that scenario, 584 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 4: But that isn't a reason to shy away from like 585 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 4: not getting the football. And I understand the four down 586 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 4: stuff and how it all plays out. Maybe they made 587 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 4: the wrong choice in going for it or or kicking 588 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 4: the field goal, you know, on fourth and four, Mike, 589 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 4: to your point about not converting on the Jennings thing, 590 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 4: if you end up going for it because you're inside 591 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 4: the ten yard line, now you're making the Chiefs go 592 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 4: another you know, seventy yards or so, as opposed to 593 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 4: you know, trying to you know, them just going for 594 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 4: three or going to go for the game winning touchdown, 595 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 4: maybe that would have been the decision for the Niners 596 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 4: to actually try to go for it on that fourth thought. 597 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 5: And that's certainly the extra permutation. I think all of it, 598 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 5: you know, comes back to everybody I think had their 599 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 5: poison pens. And I say everybody, you know, knowing it's 600 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 5: radio and podcasts and it's the nod in the wink, 601 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 5: but a vast majority of folks, shall we say, we're 602 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 5: looking to write something negative about Kyle Shanahan to add 603 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 5: to his resume resume of misery in big moments, or 604 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 5: to try to knock down brock Purty again. Right, we 605 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 5: love them, we don't love them, We love them again. 606 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,479 Speaker 5: And now we were indifferent because we need to go 607 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 5: and shine up. Patrick Mahomes resume some more. But I 608 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 5: think you know, when Shanahan was at a point, as 609 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 5: soon as that game goes final, you know, no matter 610 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 5: what he did, it was going to be wrong. Like 611 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 5: if they lost that game, like he could have called 612 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 5: a perfect game of play calling and exec cut shit 613 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 5: and everything. If they lost, it was still gonna be well, 614 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 5: he can't win the big one. Look, they lost another lead. 615 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 4: Did you see the stat of him in fourth quarter 616 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 4: and overtimes in the three Super Bowls, they his teams 617 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 4: have been outscored sixty eight to twelve. 618 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I knew it was pretty brutal. Yeah that's yeah. 619 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 4: And again't like this is this is what I heard 620 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 4: from you know? Well, I shouldn't even say this is 621 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 4: what I heard. We knew the Falcons defense was gassed. Yeah, right, 622 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 4: and then they're just throwing the football you wing it around? Yeah? Yeah, 623 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 4: you know, you know, so part of that is on him. 624 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 4: If anybody wants to say, well he's all the defensive coordinator, 625 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 4: well you sure as he couldn't help out the defense. 626 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 3: No, not at all. 627 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 5: Absolutely well, and that was part of the equation for 628 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 5: the second half of this game too though, Right, Chiefs 629 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 5: were dominant and manned to man and they really trusted 630 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 5: those guys on the outside. 631 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 3: We're going to lock down. 632 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 5: George Kittle was invisible, I mean absolutely invisible during this game, 633 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 5: and pretty on throws downfield. He was off a tick 634 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 5: virtually every throw. And then they went away from McCaffrey. 635 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, the phrase run the ball was trending on Twitter 636 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: during the game yesterday. 637 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 4: Really yeah, wow. 638 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 5: Like coach, what do he finished with? Thirty six pass attempts? 639 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 4: I think was the Yeah? The number? Yeah, let me 640 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 4: I got the box. 641 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 3: What we got thirty eight? Twenty three to thirty eight? 642 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not great. 643 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 3: Right, and your. 644 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 5: Big players were more or less invisible. You had a 645 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 5: big reception to I mean, you had a bunch of 646 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 5: guys that had a reception of at least eighteen yards yay. 647 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 5: But beyond that, like Deebo, was a non factor. Like 648 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 5: his biggest play was disrupting the would be interception in overtime, 649 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 5: but in terms of offensively he didn't do much. He 650 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,719 Speaker 5: was also hurt. I have no idea how bad that 651 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 5: hamstring was because he went to the tent losing green law. 652 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 5: I mean that was the camera shot of the day. 653 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 5: Dan was all right, he's gonna run. 654 00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 4: Oh no, oh yeah. 655 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 5: So you know, they covered that up really nicely for 656 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 5: as long as they could, but offensively some dump offs 657 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 5: to McCaffrey obviously the trick play, but in terms of 658 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 5: explosive plays downfield, all of those big weapons got neutralized. 659 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 3: So credit to Spagnolo. 660 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 5: You know, as much as we talk legacy for everybody else, 661 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 5: how about we start raising him up as one of 662 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 5: the great. 663 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 4: Sure? Yeah, absolutely, this is This is my point, and 664 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 4: I said it on the network on Monday with Party. 665 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 4: It's I and I think that we may not have 666 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 4: the exact look at Party, but I don't mind being 667 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 4: in the middle on Party because that's where I kind 668 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 4: of feel that he is. You know, I think he 669 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 4: benefits with the talent around him. But I don't think 670 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 4: that he's, you know, a bad quarterback. I don't think 671 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 4: that he stinks. I think he's a pretty good quarterback. 672 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 4: I just I wanted to see if he was great. 673 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 4: And the argument that was made by so many that 674 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 4: supported him was he's yeah, he's got all these great 675 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 4: play around him, but he is special. There's something different 676 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 4: about him. And we found out what happens when you 677 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 4: take some of those guys away. Debo gets hurt, Kittles, 678 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 4: you know, nonexistent, maybe dinged up a little bit, CMC 679 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 4: isn't being used, and then brock Purty kind of falls 680 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 4: back into that spot. That's all that you know, I'm 681 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 4: saying and I'm seeing. You know, it's not a discredit 682 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 4: to what brock Purty had done throughout the season. It's just, 683 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 4: you know, it's such a polarizing topic of Brock Party 684 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 4: and I think that we saw really what brock Purty 685 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 4: is at this point of his career, and that could 686 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 4: change over the next ten years. But I think we 687 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 4: saw it in Super Bowl, you know, on Sunday in 688 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 4: Super Bowl fifty eight, that yeah, he can't do it 689 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 4: all by himself. And I think that's kind of the argument, 690 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 4: no quarterback really can, but others are better at doing 691 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 4: it than brock Purty is. 692 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: I think when we look back on Party getting to 693 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: the super Bowl with this team, I don't think we're 694 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: going to say it in the way where we're like 695 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: Frent Dilford got to the Super Bowl. You know, yeah, 696 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna say it more. Is like Joe 697 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: Flacco won a Super Bowl with the Raid of Ravens. 698 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, Like it's it's it's 699 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 1: not that party. I don't think Perdy's a bad quarterback, 700 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: but any means I don't think he's a great quarterback. 701 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,280 Speaker 1: I think he's a pretty decent one. And that's honestly fine, 702 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: especially in today's NFL. Like there's a lot of bad 703 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: quarterbacks here too. 704 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, because that's the other part of this, guys, is 705 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 5: that you know, for all that the big grandiose arguments 706 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 5: we want to have about about him and have on 707 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 5: sports TV and radio, it's here two yeah, like he 708 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 5: he can't get better, yeah right, and be better downfield 709 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 5: and maybe slide because one of the things, you know, 710 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 5: stands out, like talk about Mahomes with his legs. We 711 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 5: didn't see Perdy really try to run at all, like 712 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 5: one to the outside. He finishes with twelve yards in 713 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 5: the game, like you said, but you know that part 714 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 5: of the game wasn't wasn't on display, No designed quarterback runs. 715 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:08,839 Speaker 5: But I gotta imagine you know year three we get 716 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 5: a better version, right that it cleans up a little bit, 717 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 5: and what happens roster wise, I made both these teams. 718 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 5: If you look at pending free agents or contract decisions, 719 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 5: it's like so many other teams in the NFL, they're 720 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 5: not gonna look anywhere near the same as they do 721 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 5: this year. There's a lot of decisions that need to 722 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 5: be made. But for him, I think everybody's trying to 723 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 5: write it like he's done, just like the Patrick Mahomes. 724 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 3: All right, he's already the greatest of a whole time thing. 725 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, hold on, what are we doing. 726 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 3: We're skipping the best parts. 727 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 4: I know we're going a little long, but I just 728 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 4: want I just want to end with this because the 729 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 4: Super Bowl has put an end to the twenty twenty 730 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,760 Speaker 4: three season. Birsch. I don't know if you even remember 731 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 4: this time, but there was a time where we would 732 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 4: have a Pro Bowl to look forward to. Okay, I'll 733 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 4: tell you what I would missing that. Usually I get 734 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 4: to the end of the football season, I'm just like, okay, 735 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 4: all right, just I could do without it for a while. 736 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 4: But literally the day after I'm like, you know what, 737 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 4: I could go for one more. You know, can't we 738 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 4: just trot the AFC and NFC out in Hawaii and 739 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 4: you know, like do this thing the way that it 740 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 4: should be. I yeah, already having some fomo without football 741 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 4: and we're not even twenty four hours removed from the 742 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 4: Super Bowl. 743 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: I remember you were doing what those commercials were where 744 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: the guy shows up sadly to his friend's house. He's 745 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: on the doorstep with the chips and beer and he's like, yeah, well, 746 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: I mean, hey, we got we got one more at least, right, 747 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 1: Like I remember when the Pro Bowl was on that. 748 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 5: I mean, now you got NASCAR and the NBA All 749 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,919 Speaker 5: Star Game. But before we before we dip though, Dan, 750 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 5: I mean you were there any final thoughts? I mean 751 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 5: Vegas for the week I had my fomo certainly a 752 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 5: missing out, not just the game, but just the week 753 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,280 Speaker 5: it was. I mean Los Angeles we had an earthquake 754 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,439 Speaker 5: and we had torrential Downpourt for several days where where 755 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 5: everything was shut down. And now there's all these things 756 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 5: about mansions getting ready to slide off into the ocean. 757 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 5: So for you there in Vegas, you know, what did 758 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 5: you take away from the week that was. 759 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 4: Well, fittingly. I made it rain a bunch in Vegas. 760 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 3: Good man, Lisa him. 761 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,760 Speaker 4: That did not happen. 762 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 3: Broad start. This is how you do it. 763 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 4: Hey, I kid you not. This is how much of 764 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 4: a loser I am. I went to Famous Dave's barbecue 765 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 4: three times. 766 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 3: It's not bad. 767 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 4: The lady remembered me on my third time, probably because 768 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 4: I sat at the same table you know, every time. 769 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 3: But nothing wrong with that. 770 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it was. It was good. Here's you know. Honestly, 771 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 4: it was great. And there are Super Bowl sites. There 772 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 4: are very few, if any, cities that can match the 773 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,439 Speaker 4: hotel space that you have with Las Vegas and being 774 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 4: in that centralized area, and to me, that is worth 775 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 4: everything to have everything there. The stadium was across the 776 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 4: freeway for media, you know, media complaints about everything. You know, 777 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 4: we had a shuttle ride over, took about twenty five 778 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,240 Speaker 4: thirty minutes or so. Sure's heck, beats an hour and fifteen, 779 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 4: you know, in one of those things like it's there's 780 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,959 Speaker 4: stuff that we experience that a lot of other people 781 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 4: don't experience. I also realized that it probably priced a 782 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 4: lot of people out, you know, you know, of going 783 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 4: to that game. It's the one thing that I worry 784 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 4: about is if you know, if it is in Vegas, 785 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 4: you know, that'd be a pretty good one to go 786 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 4: to if you're going to it, But how many people 787 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 4: will be able to afford it? But yeah, it was 788 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 4: really good. And that's the three spots that I have. 789 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,399 Speaker 4: You know, I take everybody else because I have my own, 790 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 4: you know, personal opinions on what Super Bowl sides are 791 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 4: the best. People love Miami, people love New Orleans, and 792 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 4: since New Orleans is next, I'm really curious on how 793 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,359 Speaker 4: it stands up to Vegas because if it holds up 794 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 4: pretty well, you know, as Roger Goodell says, they look 795 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 4: forward to coming back, I think you're gonna probably see it, 796 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 4: you know, every five years or so. 797 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 5: Well, I look forward to showing up, you know. And 798 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 5: it's one of these things with ticket prices. I mean, 799 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 5: you guys know how I feel about this stuff. It's 800 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 5: the like you save for anything else in your life. 801 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 5: Make a choice, right you're if you're unless you're the 802 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 5: Chiefs right now or the Patriots in years past, you 803 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 5: got a lot of years oftentimes before your team sees it. Sure, 804 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,959 Speaker 5: so part one to that, and tickets did come down. 805 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 5: I saw get in got down towards five thousand, not 806 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 5: to you know, thumb my nose at you know five thousand. 807 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 5: You know everybody's got it laying around. But again, if 808 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 5: you're looking at once in a lifetime kind of experiences, 809 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 5: you have it there. And then there were plenty of 810 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 5: hotels even for the Friday and Saturday nights that were 811 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 5: well under three hundred bucks a night. So as long 812 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 5: as you can navigate the the cab part of it, 813 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 5: I think probably was the would have been the most 814 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 5: frustrating of it. Right, flights getting to and from okay, 815 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 5: but I would imagine the cab from mccaren had to 816 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 5: be a. 817 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 3: Pain in the neck. 818 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 5: Sure like that would from a psychological standpoint, that would 819 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 5: be expensive. You're right standing exactly the expensive. Hey, you 820 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 5: know what, we're in a surge pricing mode. So you 821 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 5: just get your best walking shoes and take off. Yeah yeah, 822 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 5: but no, they looked like a blast. 823 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 3: I know. 824 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 5: There's been a lot about gaming, obviously going to overtime. 825 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 5: We were talking with Disager that the network made an 826 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 5: extra sixty million dollars plus, so. 827 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 3: Good on them. 828 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 5: Table games were down because people were luki lose instead 829 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 5: of players so that was that was a downer for some. 830 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,879 Speaker 4: But hey, the fifty to fifty raffle got up over 831 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 4: five hundred thousand. 832 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 3: How crazy? 833 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, so because it went and kept on going and 834 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,919 Speaker 4: going and going. But oh man, Well, that's a wrap 835 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 4: of the twenty twenty three NFL season. But it is 836 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 4: not a rap on this season of I Want Your Flex. 837 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 4: That's because Mike, Ryan, and myself will be back for 838 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 4: one more episode where we draft our top sixty players 839 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 4: for the twenty twenty four season. Yes, already looking ahead. 840 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,839 Speaker 4: Do you guys know who you would take number one 841 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:09,399 Speaker 4: if we started it right now? 842 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, number one. 843 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, I am not too sure just yet. 844 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 3: I'm more resolute than I was last year. 845 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 4: Maybe maybe I'll just give myself the number one pick 846 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 4: to keep everybody in suspension. 847 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 3: I like that. That's good. 848 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll find out next time. So for Ryan Bersinger 849 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 4: and Mike Carmen, we hope you enjoyed the super Bowl talk, 850 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 4: and we'll be back to wrap up this season of 851 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,320 Speaker 4: I Want Your Flex coming up next week. Talk to 852 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 4: you then,