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Speaker 1: I think, you know, he was by far, by far

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00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 1: the highest rated guy that we had on the board,

433
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 1: and we kind of felt like he just fell out

434
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 1: of the sky right to us for the type of

435
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 1: team that we are to get a running back like that.

436
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: And I think Evoness is a guy that's a talented guy,

437
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: and obviously, you know the Ravens, We've got a great

438
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 1: relationship with people at Iowa, and so you know, he's

439
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 1: a player that we liked. But to get a guy

440
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: like Dobbins in the second round, with his talent and

441
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: his skill set and and us being such a running team,

442
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: there's no question in my mind that he would have

443
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 1: been the pick for us regardless, and a guy that

444
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 1: we really did cover it. That's the best answer that

445
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna have the entire podcast, because here's here's what

446
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: that just did. That just basically I had Queen in

447
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 1: the mock at twenty eight, so I nailed that. So basically,

448
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: not only did make miss the first round pick, now

449
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 1: we know that even if Evanessa had made it to

450
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 1: our second round pick, we still weren't picking him. So

451
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: that just shows you that makes draft analysis is something

452
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 1: that nobody should really pay attention to. So thank you

453
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 1: so much for that. Yeah, well, we've always felt that

454
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: way anyways, I mean, I mean, there's a lot of

455
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 1: things that I'll read on the website, but it starts

456
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 1: talking about the draft. It's probably just gonna get passed over.

457
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 1: Tooky nerves. I to Hayden nerves on the bar. This

458
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 1: is you know, he's got to go back to the

459
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: old hits because nothing new is Orlando resonating, So big

460
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,679
Speaker 1: miss for him anyway. Um, with Dobbin's does he remind

461
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 1: you of Ray Rice? Because I've been watching it for

462
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: the past several years at Ohio State and I remember

463
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 1: seeing him as a as a freshman there and felt like,

464
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 1: this guy looks like great, right, It's probably been part

465
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: because he's, you know, a shorter running back, stout guy. Um,

466
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: he's taken it number fifty five, just like Ray. So

467
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: do you feel like he could be situation was that

468
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: in the situation, the situation you got a veteran running

469
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: back who's already in place as a starter, was just

470
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: similar to what Ray is. He is he wearing seven?

471
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: Do we know that? I don't know that? On social

472
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: media I was like, yeah, I don't know. You would

473
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,479
Speaker 1: have a better sense of that. Do you approve the nors?

474
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 1: I don't know I haven't seen that, so you know,

475
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 1: I think, uh. I think he's a guy that is

476
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 1: uh strong. He's a darting guy. He's got very very

477
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: good speed through the line of scrimmage. He's explosive, He's

478
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: able to run load of the ground with good balance.

479
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: He's a good knee bender. He's got excellent lateral agility,

480
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: ability to make people miss. But what I like most

481
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: of Bottom is if he's got a crease, he's gone.

482
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 1: He's He's a guy that has an X your gear

483
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 1: to the second and third levels of the defense, and

484
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 1: he can make big plays. And he did that in

485
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: every game this year, so he's got a little bit

486
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: of a game breaker style to him. I think he's

487
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: a guy that he can he runs low, he's strong,

488
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 1: he's physically you can you can take a hit. I

489
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: think in the passing game, he's got capable hands. I

490
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 1: think he was not used quite as much in the

491
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: passing game, but you know, compared to very Rice, I

492
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: mean Very Rice wasn't used in the passing game either

493
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 1: very much in college, and then he got to us

494
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: and he was like a revelation for us in the

495
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 1: passing game. So this is a talented guy. I think

496
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 1: he's gonna fit in really well style wise, and he's

497
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: gonna be a guy that will really help Mark and

498
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 1: Gus in Justice. And now I think we've got four

499
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: running backs, you know, us being a type of team

500
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: we are, I think just adding another guy with his

501
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 1: skill set makes us a very tough team to defend. Yeah,

502
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: do you basically look at this. I was surprised with

503
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 1: the running back pick, just because you have good guys

504
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 1: that are already in place, Um, and it's hard to

505
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 1: you know, there's one ball to go or round, but

506
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: Tomas is so good obviously that you just can't pass

507
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: them up. How do you view what happens with like

508
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: Gusts and Justice as you do? You just think of

509
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 1: it as we run the ball more than any other team,

510
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: and you've got to have a really good stable of

511
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: running backs and and we'll find ways that ultimately Gus

512
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: Edwards and Justice Hill are involved in the offense. You know,

513
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: I would equate it to us, um, you know, last

514
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: year having the tight ends that we had the three

515
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: tight ends, and then you know, Greg did an amazing

516
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: job of taking those tight ends and really creating something

517
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: specially that made us very tough for defenses to play.

518
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: And now we've got the four running backs and they

519
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: all do different things well and it just makes us

520
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: I think, a really really well rounded team that's tough

521
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: to defend. And these guys all can do different things.

522
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: They should be fresh, uh, from four quarters. I think

523
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: we protect ourselves in case of injuries and different things

524
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: like that, and it just it fortifies us. It makes

525
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: us stronger. Any gives us a guy with home run potential.

526
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: Have you guys kind of been looking for that stud

527
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: running back in the draft for a little while. You know,

528
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: we're trying to find studs at every position, Ryan honestly,

529
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: but to get a guy like this, I think where

530
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: we did is a good move, you know, for us.

531
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: And I know some people were probably frustrated that we

532
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: didn't take a wide receiver there, an offensive lineman there.

533
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: But it's still about talent. This league is still about

534
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: talent and adding talent and stacking talent and talent and talent.

535
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,479
Speaker 1: And we just felt like this guy, based on who

536
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: we are as a football team and based on what

537
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: we know about him, this guy was a great fit.

538
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: And so you know, I think we're blessed. We saw

539
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: the impact that that Mark had this year. And we've

540
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: seen what Gus has been able to do the last

541
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: couple of years, and we saw glimpses of justice Is

542
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: potential last year, especially towards the end of the year

543
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: as he started to make some place for us. And

544
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: we're thrilled with what we have there now at the position.

545
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: We've got four eyes that we feel we can play

546
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: and that can make place for us. And they're gonna

547
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: make us better. They're gonna make Lamar better, they're gonna

548
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: make the receivers better, and they're gonna make the offense better,

549
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: so you know, I think, and they're gonna make our

550
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: defense better in a lot of different ways. And so

551
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: we're excited about that and we can't wait to get

552
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: tired with those guys. So let's move on through some

553
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: of the other picks. In the third round, you get

554
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: just m out of bootquet Um out a beat ka Um,

555
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: And there was a lot of talk about pass rush

556
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: coming into this draft, and then you get an interior

557
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: pass rusher in him. Did you view the interior pass

558
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: rush basically on equal footing as to an outside pass

559
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: rusher like so often when we talk about pass rush,

560
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: so automatically, our minds go to the outside linebacker in

561
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: that spot, but did you view the interior pass rush

562
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: is just as big of a priority and it was

563
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: that part of the attraction with Justin Well, you know,

564
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: I think we just wanted some guys that, you know,

565
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: talented players, and we looked at Justin and we saw

566
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: a guy that had a unique skill set. He's very explosive,

567
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: maniford at the on by. He's a guy that can

568
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: get to the past or he's twitchy. You know, we

569
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: see players like him on the inside, you know, um

570
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: and they just they can just wreak havoc. You know,

571
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: you see guys like you know, Aaron Donald for instance,

572
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: and you see when you can get that inside pass

573
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: rush what that means, Geno Atkins, those kind of guys.

574
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: You see what that does. It makes those outside guys

575
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: even better. So I think Justin is a guy that

576
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: has talent in his body to be able to be

577
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: an inside pass rusher. He's twitchy, he's strong with his hands,

578
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: he plays hard. It's got excellent penetration ability, lateral agility,

579
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: natural explosive qualities. So we feel like this is a

580
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: guy that has a chance to develop over time to

581
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: Joe Colin coaching him, he can develop as an inside

582
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: pass rusher and be a really good player for US. Now,

583
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: Devin di Verne uh DNA might have been my favorite pick.

584
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: Uh And you guys talked about the speed and wanting

585
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: speed first and foremost and wide receiver. Can you just

586
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: go into a little bit of that, that thought process

587
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: and why that was in particular that treats so important. Well,

588
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: he's an explosive guy. He's really really fast. He's a

589
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: highly competitive guy with strong hands. I don't think I

590
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: saw a drop this year. He had over a hundred catches.

591
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: He's really good with the football in his hands. He's

592
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: a guy that can break tackles. He runs with an

593
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: angry style. I think he's highly competitive. So you know,

594
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: he's just a guy that as I watched his tape,

595
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: I got excited about him and his potential for us.

596
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: He's the type of guy when you watch him play.

597
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: Players in general, typically, if you watch enough tape, you

598
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,239
Speaker 1: get a vibe about them. There's a vibe that day

599
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: sort of emit. And I would say with Devin, he's

600
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: an angry football player. I like his style of play,

601
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: I like his energy, I like his competitive spirit, I

602
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: like his toughness, and I like his speed, and I

603
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: think those things translate to Baltimore really well. I think

604
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: he's a good fit for who we are, and I

605
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: think that he's gonna be a guy who's gonna help us.

606
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: Did you like that play where he ran over Grant Delpit? Yeah?

607
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: You know, I just I just love a good tough

608
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: football player, you know. And I think about guys that

609
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: we've had some of our best receivers, and we've had

610
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: a few here and there, and I think about some

611
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: of the best guys and I go back to these

612
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: highly competitive guys, and their styles are all different. You know.

613
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: You had a guy like Macey, You had a guy

614
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: like Steve Smith, you had a guy like an Koon Bolden.

615
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: They all had totally different games, but they were all

616
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: highly competitive warriors on the football field, and so and

617
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: so that's what I see when I watch a guy

618
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: like Devin, I see some of those same things. Now,

619
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: their styles might be different, the skills might be different,

620
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: strange different, but the mentality that I see effort, the drive,

621
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: the determination, the competitive toughness, to me, that reminds me

622
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: of those guys. So Malik Harrison. He the I guess

623
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: the right up or the feeling on him is he's

624
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: he's kind of your old school downhill thumper of a linebacker.

625
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: But are people sleeping on his athleticism? I mean, this

626
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: is a guy who was it was a high school quarterback.

627
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: Um is his athleticism being overlooked a little bit? Well?

628
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: I think people put him in that box because he's big.

629
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: He's almost two hundred and fifty pounds, you know, so

630
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: he's got some length, he's got some size. So people

631
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: want to naturally assume that he's that type of player,

632
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: that he's a big downhill thumper, and he can do that.

633
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: But I think he's a little bit more versatile than

634
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: people give him credit for. He is a good athlete,

635
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: even a four six six. He's a good need bandity

636
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: can play in space, he can roun, he's got good length.

637
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: So I think he's a guy that can be a

638
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: three down linebacker for us without question. And he played

639
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: really well this year for Ohio State, had a great season,

640
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: and we think he compliments Patrick Queen very well. We

641
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,239
Speaker 1: see two guys that should come in and really right

642
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: away compete to play from day one and I think

643
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: that makes us better as a defense. Do you guys

644
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: like doubling up at a certain position because those guys

645
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: get to kind of grow up with each other, you know,

646
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: push each other, battle against each other. Like you know,

647
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: we've seen so much success with that tight end at

648
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: wide receiver in years past. Do you do you really

649
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: like that? Yeah, you know, I think we've done that

650
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: in the past, and we would do that if we

651
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 1: really like the second guy. So I think it speaks

652
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: to how much we like leak. You know, we did

653
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: that when we took Ben Grubs and then we came

654
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 1: back into Marshall Yonda. We did that with it Dixon

655
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: and Dennis Pitta, and we did that with Hayden and

656
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: Mark Andrews. So you know, I think if we take

657
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: that second guy, the fan fans should look at that

658
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: and say, Wow, they must really like this guy because

659
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: they've already taken a guy at that position. You're taking

660
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: this guy, so he's gotta be by far the highest

661
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: rated guy on the board. Interesting and it I mean

662
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: when you look at some of those past guys that

663
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: you mentioned, like the guy taking second, like Mark Andrews

664
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: for example, has been an incredibly productive player, and you

665
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: got a couple rounds later. Yeah, Yeah, he was a

666
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer right exactly. So I think that that

667
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: kind of speaks to what you're talking about. So on

668
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: the old line, Tyree Phillips and Ben Brettistad. First of all,

669
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: with Tyree, do you like these guys out of East

670
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: Mississippi Community College? Last chance you was Darius Smith. Yeah,

671
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 1: I didn't know that this was a guy that I think,

672
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: if if I had to say one guy that Coach

673
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: Hardball was really a sponsor. You know, the scouts liked them,

674
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: We did a lot of work on him. But Coach

675
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: Hardball saw this guy back in January or February and

676
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: really kind of became enthralled with his ability in our offense.

677
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: And so he's a guy that's got size and physicality

678
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: and strength and natural leverage and different things. He's an

679
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: underrated athlete. He had a good week at the Senior

680
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: ball in past protection. We think he has a really

681
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: good chance to kick inside and guard and be a

682
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: player for us. And you know, Coach Hardball was really

683
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: excited about this pick. He's been talking to me about

684
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: Phillips now since the combine, and so that was on

685
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: my radar from the combine. We were excited to get him.

686
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: It felt like we could get him. At the end

687
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: of the third or the fourth round. There was some

688
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: other offensive linement that got picked before we could pick

689
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: in the third and at that point, really the mission was,

690
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: let's get Phillips. Did you did you see that? You know?

691
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: Nick named Big Country? He said, he'll even he'll shoot

692
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: a possum, skin it and eat it. Yeah, well, you

693
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: know a lot of protein I here in possum so

694
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: and and Ben bretticon, Actually he's got an interesting story too,

695
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: and that his mom was a dog shower, you know,

696
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: and and competitive competitive dog show. Did you do you

697
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,720
Speaker 1: know these things? Like did you they said that on ESPN?

698
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: Did you already know the story about his mom showing

699
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: dogs and throwing the second place metal out the window? Um, well,

700
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 1: at least he's not skinning those dogs and eating them,

701
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: all right. So yes, Eric's had the headphones on. Now

702
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: the guys were cutting his grass, so he had to

703
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: get the headphones out. But Ben brettising, what is it

704
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: you like about him? Um? And do you do you

705
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: all honestly like the competitive kind of family spirit that

706
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: it seems like he has well, you know, obviously we

707
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 1: know a lot about Ben, you know, for our relationship

708
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: with Michigan. He's played a ton of football. He's a

709
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: physical guy, tough guy, you know, left guard bits, the Ravens,

710
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: good size. Uh, you know, he's a guy with experiences,

711
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 1: highly intelligent, gonna be able to pick things up very quickly,

712
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: and he just kind of fits off. You've had a

713
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: lot of success in the past with experienced, big tan

714
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: offensive lineman who have come in and played for us

715
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: and played really well. So he's I think the next

716
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 1: and a long line of those type of guys. Any

717
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: We're excited about them. So it is hard sending you

718
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: any wine. I mean, you got back to back offensive

719
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: lineman that he had to love Tyree and then you

720
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: get a Michigan guy. I mean that sounds like a

721
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: bottle of mind to me. Uh you know, it'll just

722
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: probably toss me a gatorade or something. You know. That's

723
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: about it. Purple Game. Just as a note on that,

724
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: I think that not only were you the GM over

725
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: the weekend, but you were also our greatest content creator.

726
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: So we got to give you a pat on the

727
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: back for that. Yeah. Well, you know, I feel like, um,

728
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: I've learned a lot about myself in the last month

729
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: or so, and I have some other skills. You know,

730
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: I'm not just the guy that picks the players, you know.

731
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: So I've come up with some content. You know, maybe

732
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 1: I could be a producer at some point. I'm also

733
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: a school teacher, uh that I'm pretty good at that.

734
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: I think I've been fixing stuff technology, you know. I'm

735
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: good with I T around the house WiFi issues. I'm

736
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: good setting up printers and TVs and things in my office.

737
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: So I have maybe a chance to do some I

738
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: T stuff as well. And also I've started doing uh

739
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: you know, my wife Lacy has starting it started a

740
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: cooking uh cooking group I don't know on Facebook, and

741
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: so I have made some videos which people would be surprised,

742
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: but you know, I am a mixologist, and I've feared

743
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: a couple of videos and myself mixing some different cocktails people.

744
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: And I think they're they're gonna be highly successful. They're

745
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: very popular right now. So I think I'm pretty good

746
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: at Are these on YouTube? I am? I'm can we

747
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: put these out? They're on faced? I think I don't

748
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: know exactly how they how you can see them but

749
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: they're on Facebook. My wife, there's a couple of hundred

750
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,439
Speaker 1: people out there. So I've you know, I think people

751
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: are excited about my my content, and uh, you know,

752
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: that might be something I can do in the future.

753
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: What was the cocktail of choice after the draft on Saturday? Well,

754
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting, you know, I've had a couple

755
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: of it's how I actually have about obverse six go

756
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: to cocktails, but some of my videos, you know, I

757
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: did a Pisco sour, which is a Peruvian drink. Um, yes, exactly.

758
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: I gotta find you know, the piececo which is hard

759
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 1: to find. It's a it's a Peruvian. Uh, it's it's

760
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: it's it's like a brandy and uh it's hard to find.

761
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: You've got to go to a good liquor store. And

762
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: then so I made a Pisco sour for everybody. And

763
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: then the other day post draft, I made a post draft,

764
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 1: uh sidecar, which is probably my drink of choice, which

765
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: is yeah, which is another you know, brandy Koonak type

766
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: drink with quantroux and some lemon juice a little sugar. So, uh,

767
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 1: you know, but I've got some my like a good gimblet.

768
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: Every now and then I like an old fashioned every

769
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: now and then, you know, um, so you know you

770
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: gotta keep doing that. So I've really learned a lot

771
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: about myself over the last month, and uh, it's been great.

772
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: And I find out that I have a lot of

773
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: different skills and production. Maybe the next thing that I

774
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 1: kind of delved into, well, I mean this is the lounge.

775
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: So I'm pretty sure we just got our bartender. You

776
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: can you can come hang out in the lounge any time. Okay.

777
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 1: That actually did make me think of one other thing.

778
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: When you're talking about i T, I had this. I

779
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: had to wonder how did Ozzy handle the virtual draft,

780
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: because if we're talking about i T experts, I wouldn't

781
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: put Ozzy on the list. Now, you know he was

782
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: on mute a few times, you know, he was, I

783
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: had to be honest. So was John. He was on

784
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,959
Speaker 1: mute a few times too, you know, and they're they're

785
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: doing this and I'm like, coach, you're on mute, you're mute.

786
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: But it all it worn't out, you know, I have

787
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 1: to say, pretty seamlessly. David McDonald did a great job.

788
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: You know, he works. Uh, you know, we're in scouting

789
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: for us, but in I t He's a developer, software developer,

790
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: and he's a great and valuable resource for me throughout

791
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: this process. And just building out our systems that we

792
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: used to draft, and then the infrastructure, how we want

793
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: to design the office and all that and getting everything

794
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: to work the way it did was amazing. H You know,

795
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: one of the biggest challenges I think this year for me,

796
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: you know, it was this the draft was was not

797
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 1: challenging from the standpoint of running the draft the way

798
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: we did that. The hardest part for me was just

799
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: not sitting physically sitting next to us and uh in

800
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 1: pact and we've sat together for years and years and years,

801
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: twenty four years, and you know, it really is I

802
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: mean the conversations that you have when Ozzy was the GM,

803
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: the conversations we have about players and the strategies, and

804
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: then when I became GM, the same in conversations. So

805
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 1: you know, not having that, you know, it's challenging and

806
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: and it probably in some ways made the draft a

807
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: little bit less enjoyable for me, not to be able

808
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: to spend the time physically with those guys. You know,

809
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: I did call Ozzie. You know, there'll be times where

810
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: you know, Um, you see this store behind me, that's

811
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: a closet, and I would go in there because there

812
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: was a camera over here, the NFL camera, ESPN NFL camera.

813
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: So what I would do. I don't know if you

814
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 1: guys be able to see me right now, but I'll

815
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: show you guys what I would do. I would take

816
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: my phone and I would walk over here, and I

817
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: would call Ozzy and I would open up this store

818
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: and then I would and I would make my calls

819
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: because I didn't like these cameras always staring at me.

820
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: So that was my I call that my panic closet

821
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: instead of panic panic room. If I wanted the conversation

822
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: with either Steve or John or Ozzy or whoever it

823
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: might be, Joe Hortis or George, I'd go to my

824
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: closet and make the cell phone call. Even though I

825
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: was told these cameras had no audio and couldn't actually

826
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: hear me. I just felt more comfortable going into the closet.

827
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: You didn't You didn't have a dog sitting at the

828
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: computer though, like Belichick, No, I had by dogs. Um,

829
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 1: my dogs were here a lot, but my youngest dog, Pepper,

830
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: she's a black laugh puppy, she's not real uh well

831
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 1: trained right now, and I was afraid she might eat

832
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: the wires or something sabotage all the technology. So we

833
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: tried to keep her out of here as much as possible.

834
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: And one of the things that I'm curious about is, uh,

835
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: you know, one of the symbols I think at the

836
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: end of the draft is in typical years, is that

837
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 1: we start to smell the cigar. Smoke, you know, make

838
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: its way around the building. You know, Steve laying up

839
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: the cigar at the end of the draft. Uh, he

840
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: loves the draft, I know. How how you know, does

841
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: his involvement it all change? You know, because of the

842
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: virtual draft and what was his role and you know,

843
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 1: talking through trades and all the different things that um

844
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: go on on draft weekend. Well, you know you're right

845
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: about that. Steve loves the draft and and he wasn't

846
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: able to be here, So I think from that standpoint

847
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: it was challenging. But I think he also immersed himself

848
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: in the whole process more than ever, and he was

849
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: on more calls, and he and I spoke more on

850
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: the phone and probably ever before about the draft and

851
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: strategies and different things. And he had some good ideas

852
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,439
Speaker 1: and he likes to contribute, and he's smart and he's

853
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: got a great mind for strategy and different things. So

854
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: his inport is always invaluable to me and John. He's

855
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 1: a part of the process. So he actually got on

856
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: Zoom and you know, he handled that pretty well and

857
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: all the different webacks called and different things. He was

858
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: involved in a lot of the discussions leading up to

859
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: the draft. So it's kind of cool that we could

860
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: actually do it. And you know, I think that in

861
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: the case of someone like AUSI or to see them actually,

862
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: you know, understand the technology and then actually embrace it

863
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: and get it to work. I mean, I think if

864
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: I had to feel bad for anybody, I probably feel

865
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 1: bad for Steve's. I t guy down to Florida because

866
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure he had a lot of phone calls from Steve.

867
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: I don't know about the technology and why doesn't this

868
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: work this way? I can't get this to work. But

869
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: you know, Steve was really involved and uh, you know,

870
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: to have that input, I think is a huge help

871
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: to me. And you know, one of the special things

872
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: about the way that we do the draft is we

873
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: try to include as many people as possible and really

874
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: make it a team effort. It's not all about one person.

875
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: This year, maybe it felt that way because it was

876
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: virtual and I'm by myself, but in reality, this draft

877
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: probably we quite more people to administer this draft than

878
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: any other draft we've ever had. That's cool, that's cool.

879
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: All right, I want to talk a little bit more

880
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: about some of these Day three picks with Parchet. At

881
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: what point did you know, all right, the value is

882
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: too good. I have to trade up and make a

883
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: move to go get this guy. Yeah, well, he was

884
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: a guy we were considering in the fifth round. We

885
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 1: thought maybe we could get him in the sixth round,

886
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: but we didn't have a sixth round pick. I thought

887
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: that probably wouldn't be a strong chance we could get

888
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: him into seventh round. So, you know, he was a

889
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: guy that we liked is a wideout but also as

890
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 1: a return man. We had a chance to see him

891
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: down in mobile at the senior ball catch punts and

892
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 1: do all that, and we watched this tape. We've got

893
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 1: some great inflammation about the kid. We felt really good

894
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: about his makeup and about his skill set. So it

895
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: made sense for us to get back in. And you know,

896
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: we had acquired that pick uh from the Steelers for Warmley,

897
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: who traded this year, And you know, I was just

898
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: thinking about it, like what I trade Chris Wormley for

899
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,919
Speaker 1: James Prochet And right now, this guy's got a chance

900
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: to be a punt returner. He's caught a gazillion balls.

901
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: He's highly competitive guy, he just wants to win. He's

902
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: got great hands, he's he's just he's a savvy guy.

903
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: He's very tough and motivated. So this makes a lot

904
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: of sense. And I think we're gonna have some comp

905
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: pics next year as well. So to me, it became

906
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: something that I thought we should do. And at that point,

907
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: you know, I started the dialogue with Minnesota. They had

908
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: a million picks in the fourth, fifth, six, and seventh round.

909
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 1: So it just became something that made sense to me

910
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: to do to get to get the guy that we

911
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 1: wanted in Minnesota. Was probably happy that, like I'm running

912
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: out of players here to like just mabe it's the

913
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: next year. Yeah, We've been at that position before too,

914
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: and after a while, you know, in some years, you

915
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: just look at the board and you just have no

916
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: idea who to pick. Know about it, nobody really looks

917
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: at good to you anymore, you're so tired, you're tired

918
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: of calling guys on the phone, and you just you

919
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: just don't know how to make the pick. So, uh,

920
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: you know, that didn't happen to us this year. In fact,

921
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: I was trying to get you know, we saw some

922
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: good players on the board still in the late sixth

923
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: early seventh round, so we were hoping to get a

924
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: few additional picks. One of the nice things for us

925
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: to trade up in the seventh was we really did

926
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,479
Speaker 1: like Stone quite a bit. Geno Stone. We had gotten

927
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: a lot of good information about him in Iowa and

928
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: we liked this take, and we thought he was a

929
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,919
Speaker 1: guy would have a chance to come in and play

930
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: on special team sports and developed as a safety. Even

931
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: though we'd like our safety group very much, we saw

932
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: a skill set here that you know, we've been successful

933
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: with guys like him in the past, so we really

934
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: wanted him. But this year, you know, there were three

935
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: or four other guys as well that we probably would

936
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: have taken. The seventh round. Felt really good about have

937
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: we had some additional picks, Did you get any of

938
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: them as undrafted guys? We did? We did again anounced

939
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: those guys yet because they haven't taken any kind of

940
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: physical or anything, so that would be uh prohibitive for

941
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: me to announce these guys. But I do think that

942
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,439
Speaker 1: we got you know, as I'm looking at my list

943
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: right now, I think we got three or four guys

944
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: that we might have drafted in the seventh round. We

945
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 1: got this free agents. Wow, that's awesome. That's awesome. Yeah,

946
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,760
Speaker 1: some pff I think had Gino Stone as the biggest

947
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: steal of the draft. Like, what was everybody Daniel Jeremiah

948
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: even on TV was talking about, like what happened here?

949
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: What was the rest of the league missing on Gino? Yeah?

950
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, I can't speak to other teams,

951
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: but I just know, you know, for us, specifically, Joey Cleary,

952
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 1: who was a scout for us, he had done all

953
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: the safety's leading up to the draft, and this is

954
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: one of his favorite picks, one of his sleepers at

955
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: that position this year. So that Joey does a good

956
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: job and the fact that he had so much conviction

957
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: about Gino made me feel really good about the pick.

958
00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: Nice busting in here on the draft, Eric, He's busted

959
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 1: in here on our draft talk. Did you have any

960
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: moments with your kids where you had to be like

961
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: all right, everybody out of the room. Uh. Yeah, we

962
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: had a couple of moments, we did. We had a couple.

963
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: I'll be honest. It wasn't that the fact that they

964
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: were coming in here, but we had a couple of

965
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: moments because you know, we have you know, WiFi here,

966
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: and the WiFi is actually in this closet right here,

967
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: and so I have a good connection. The one blessing

968
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: about doing the draft in this room is the WiFi. However,

969
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 1: David McDonald, being the I T guy, he was also

970
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 1: here throughout the draft to make sure that everything works,

971
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: so he was connected well. In other parts of this

972
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: house the WiFi is not quite as good, and when

973
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 1: the kids around video games, streaming and all that, it

974
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: crushes the WiFi. So at one point in the draft

975
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: they became running in he said, I've got no WiFi

976
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: out there. Well, David doesn't have WiFi. It means everything

977
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: could just kind of fall apart. Because he's doing everything

978
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: for all the other people. He's putting the draft board out,

979
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: he's he's he's on all the different calls. He's a

980
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: he's basically the emergency guy in case something happens to me,

981
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: he can turn to pick In and I'll do all

982
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. So he came running in and

983
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: he was like, man, I don't know what's going on.

984
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: The WiFi has just gone up here. Well, I said,

985
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: what do you think he competing? Goes, I don't know

986
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: your kids playing video games. So we go down to

987
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: the basement and then Jackson and Michael both playing Fortnite

988
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 1: and you know whatever they're playing. So I had to

989
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,919
Speaker 1: lower the boom model and basically, like, guys, they gotta

990
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: get off the video games. Okay, a million Ravens fans

991
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: out there that don't want you playing video games right now,

992
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: I can promise you they got off. But you know

993
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 1: the good thing was, you know when the draft that

994
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: I saw those guys and I said, hey, boys, guess what,

995
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: you can start playing Call of Duty now whatever you

996
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: guys play. They were all excited. They went run downstairs

997
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: and they were playing video games. So we got it

998
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: all worked out. Here's the worst part. They could have

999
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: been playing Hollywood and Madden or something like that, you know,

1000
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: sabotage from the team. Yeah, that's right, right, Hey, Eric,

1001
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: before we let you go, what was up with a

1002
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: green dinosaur that was on your desk. Yeah, that's my buddy. Now, okay,

1003
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,919
Speaker 1: that guy. If you guys saw my cocktail video, she'd

1004
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 1: see him in those videos. That's that's Pandemic Pete. That's

1005
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: what his nickname is and that guy. So what happened was,

1006
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: I'll tell you the whole story about Pandemic Pete quickly.

1007
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 1: Lacy was on a zoom call okay, and she needed

1008
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: something to hold her phone up, so she grabbed Pandemic Pete.

1009
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: Well that wasn't his name at the time. She was

1010
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 1: using it to hold her phone off that she did

1011
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: the call. So then I was doing on my cocktail

1012
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 1: videos and Pete happened to be in the video. People

1013
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: liked it, you know, they got the screen Dina so,

1014
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: so he kind of became the good luck charm for

1015
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: me over the course of the three days. So I

1016
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: had Pete and it was kind of like, Okay, it's

1017
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: the t rex, you know, let's be the dinosaur. Let's

1018
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: be fierce, you know, let's let's take this thing. You know.

1019
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: So Pete was with me all weekend and he became

1020
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 1: my you know, my mascot throughout the draft process. Pandemic Pete.

1021
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: That's awesome, That is awesome. Wait wait, I have one

1022
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: more news that would be a good one the head on,

1023
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna ruin it with one more. Couldn't pin

1024
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: you think you could envision pandemic Pete signing a veteran

1025
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: outside linebacker sometime here, sometime soon. You have to ask Pete.

1026
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know now he's he's out in

1027
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: the kitchen right now on the counter. But you know,

1028
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: I think, uh, you have to see it's hard to say. Um.

1029
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 1: You know, there were a lot of strange things that

1030
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: happened this this this week around here with with the

1031
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: different things, there's a lot of omens. And at one point,

1032
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can show you guys this,

1033
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: but so I had the police here all weekend because

1034
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: they were we had security. And so at one point

1035
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: the police, um, they this guy sent me a picture.

1036
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: The police would send me a picture. In the middle

1037
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: of the night. He said, look what I just found

1038
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 1: outside your window. And he said, I think they're spying

1039
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 1: on you. And I've heard these guys out there, but

1040
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: I've never seen him. I don't know if you guys

1041
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: can see that, But there were these two hours. Yeah,

1042
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,720
Speaker 1: and that's a real picture right outside my office window.

1043
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: And I was afraid these these guys were trying to

1044
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: you know, steal the draft board or something, you know, like,

1045
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: but these guys got caught outside my window, and you know,

1046
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 1: the state police were consumed to buy out enough to investigate.

1047
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: We made sure that they were in fact not you know,

1048
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 1: like drone owls or anything like that. My question. Yeah, so,

1049
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: so we caught these guys out there, and you know,

1050
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: and I name these guys actually, so it's Tony and

1051
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 1: Debbie for Anthony Fauci and Deborah Burkes. But these guys

1052
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:23,879
Speaker 1: are right outside of the window, and I hate him

1053
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:27,280
Speaker 1: this morning, and uh, they seemed happy about the draft.

1054
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: So I'm glad about that pandemic. Pete. We got Tony,

1055
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: we got Debbie Videosa's house. You gotta sit in the

1056
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: hardball's house. He's got all the bird houses. That was

1057
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 1: the other thing. Harves is a birdhouse guy apparently who

1058
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:49,399
Speaker 1: knew Now you know who do I mean? I bet

1059
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: you if you guys researched this, I bet you there's

1060
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: a name for people that collect birdhouse. I don't know

1061
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: what that name is, but I beg there's a name

1062
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: for those people. You know, there was up Broadhouse collector

1063
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: extraordinaire nobody. What what do you think of his haircut?

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Speaker 1: I can't hear you, though, I think the audios, well,

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Speaker 1: you need to send that lawnmower crew over to my

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Speaker 1: house because I could use one. I don't care who

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Speaker 1: it is with the white weed whacker, what they're using,

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Speaker 1: I could use it. Just get some clippers. There you go,

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Speaker 1: you can do it yourself. Well, Eric, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for joining us. Congrats again on an awesome draft.

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Speaker 1: We're all excited. All Baltimore is excited. Congrats ma'am. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: see you guys. So yeah, yes, all right, well good

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Speaker 1: stuff from Eric. I feel like, you know, a sidecar

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Speaker 1: is in order after that interview, just to kind of

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Speaker 1: celebrate put the cherry on top on this draft. Well,

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Speaker 1: I know what I'm doing when I'm done with this

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Speaker 1: is is I'm gonna find as a costa cocktail videos.

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Speaker 1: That's a soon. That's the first thing I'm about to

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Speaker 1: hit up Lacey Dikasa with that Facebook friend request. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know that he was impressed at my knowledge of

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Speaker 1: the piececo sour. Yeah, that that did leave a good

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Speaker 1: impression on him. Yeah, sour, that's a that's a Christie favorite.

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Speaker 1: Actually it's bakewhite in there and then it's got that

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Speaker 1: piececo rum um in line. It's a good one. It's

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Speaker 1: a good one. I think I've had it. I'll take that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, really, who wanted to turn out a cocktail?

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Speaker 1: Like you said? This is the loutch is exactly exactly.

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Speaker 1: This is what we're here for, his cocktail talk right,

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Speaker 1: all right, So before we go, we want to thank

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Speaker 1: Like I said, We're gonna read some emails in the

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Speaker 1: episode later this week. Uh so, go ahead and send

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Speaker 1: those into the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, and we'll be back with you later

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Speaker 1: this week as we get kind of a film breakdown.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna look at the Ravens Ricky class from XS

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Speaker 1: and nose standpoint, really dive into it with Ken mccusick

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Speaker 1: who joined us earlier and a lot of fans really

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Speaker 1: like having on. To make sure you tune back in

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Speaker 1: on Thursday when we'll drop that pot. Thanks for listening.