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Speaker 1: Ron An Aian. You fell in love with this car.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty nice it.

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Speaker 1: You're already emotionally attached. This is bad, bad, bad bad.

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Speaker 1: The Car Doctor hond does have a problem with exhaust

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Speaker 1: system heat shields, and I don't know why Honda owners

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Speaker 1: come to the conclusion that Honda owners are in denial.

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Speaker 1: And to me, denial is more than just a river

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Speaker 1: in Egypt. It's really what you need to not be

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Speaker 1: in in order to understand and realize that all cars break.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of ron Anian the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 1: Since nineteen ninety one. This is where car owners the

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Speaker 1: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair.

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Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up

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Speaker 1: the phone and call in. The garage doors are opening,

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Speaker 1: but I am here to take your calls at eight

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Speaker 1: five or five nine hundred and now he.

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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome on naming in the Car Doctor here. Listen,

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Speaker 1: I need your help this hour fast. Harry doesn't think

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Speaker 1: I can answer all the questions you guys can throw

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Speaker 1: at me this hour, So we have a bet. If

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Speaker 1: I win and I answer all the calls to call

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Speaker 1: in fast. Harry's gonna wash the plow truck outside. We're

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Speaker 1: the plow truck outside in his shorts and no T shirt.

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Speaker 1: And if I lose and I can answer all the questions,

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Speaker 1: then I'm gonna wash his mercury sable in the shop

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Speaker 1: in eighty degree weather in the heat on. Because Harry

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Speaker 1: really doesn't have to make a bet, but you get

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Speaker 1: me know what's on your mind. Let's talk about your

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Speaker 1: car and your car problem right here, live on here.

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Speaker 1: Before we kick off this hour, the calls are already

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Speaker 1: lined up. I want to do a quick shout out

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Speaker 1: to the littlest Dananian. She's out there studying late this

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Speaker 1: her off to school. I'm not really sure. We pointed

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Speaker 1: her in the car West two months ago and we

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Speaker 1: said go. She's like the Mars probe. She's out there

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Speaker 1: circling the universe, and we just want to say hello

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Speaker 1: and we love you, and we miss you back here

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Speaker 1: at the Ananian Homestead, and we wish you, we wish

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Speaker 1: you well, and make sure that you come home soon.

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Speaker 1: We all want to see your smiling face. We love you. Rah.

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Speaker 1: Let's get over and talk to Dan online one from

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin with a twenty thirteen Cadillac or Cadilliac as we

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Speaker 1: say here in New Jersey and see what's going on.

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Speaker 3: Dan.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor. How can he help her?

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Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for taking my call. Looking at a thirteen

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Speaker 3: Cadillac ats I think it at twenty nine hundred miles

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Speaker 3: and it's a buyback, okay. Therefore, they're telling me the

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Speaker 3: title is red dotted or something. And they're also telling

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Speaker 3: they showed me the list of discrepancies that the first

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Speaker 3: owner had a bunch of electrical stuff that look like

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Speaker 3: about eight items, right, minor items the way it look

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Speaker 3: to me, I'm a little knowledgeable about them. But they

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Speaker 3: tell me there's still a one hundred percent warranty on

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Speaker 3: that car. Is that correct?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know the answer to that,

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Speaker 1: but I'm wondering why you want to buy something that's

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Speaker 1: you know, a known problem, because my first question is

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Speaker 1: you know where the where the problems resolved. I'm guessing no,

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Speaker 1: because the owner turned the car back in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well they showed me the list of discrepancies that

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Speaker 3: we're all corrected with new items. Okay, wiring blocks and

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Speaker 3: weiring this and that. And suppose they were all corrected.

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Speaker 3: They did buy it back, and that's what I asked.

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Speaker 3: You know what's going to happen if it does it again?

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Speaker 3: But it's supposedly one guaranteed and that's a ridiculously low price.

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Speaker 1: Well, what's what's the you know, this sounds like my

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Speaker 1: snap on tool salesman, this week's ridiculously low price of

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Speaker 1: you know, let's call it like it is. You know,

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Speaker 1: what's what does a non buy back car go for

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Speaker 1: I mean, how big of a difference is it?

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Speaker 3: I can't answer. I can tell you this one. Suppose

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Speaker 1: What are they trying to sell it for?

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Speaker 3: Thirty one?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So you know, if if a similar car that's

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Speaker 1: Let me let me ask, Let me answer the question

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Speaker 1: this way for you, Dan, in that I would take

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Speaker 1: the seventeen digit VIN and go see your mechanic. Do

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Speaker 1: And you know most well all good repair shops, and

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Speaker 1: thirty five years and say, hey, Dan, run this VIN

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Speaker 1: for me, and you know, what is this car? Show you?

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Speaker 1: And at that point, you know, can you tell me

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Speaker 1: me the answer? All right, that's step one. Then second

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Speaker 1: in for the eight problems. Here's the eight resolutions. Here's

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Speaker 1: the eight solutions. But the other side of that is

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Speaker 1: how well were the repairs done. Did the mechanic take

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Speaker 1: in or all the clips supposed to be where they go?

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Speaker 1: You know, I've seen some dealer guys, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: seen some guys take wiring harnesses apart. We'll talk dealer

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Speaker 1: model builders and all of that is important. So you know,

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Speaker 1: it's not just a matter of what's wrong with it

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Speaker 1: fair question, what is the buy back? What if you

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Speaker 3: Looking down the road when you get rid of it,

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Speaker 3: it's going to be a problem with the title too.

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Speaker 1: Well, before you go to that point, let me ask

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Speaker 3: Twenty twelve.

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Speaker 1: So you get rid of your cars relatively quickly or yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: Well if you're just looking to roll it over, well,

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Speaker 1: if you're looking to drive, so you're telling me you're

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Speaker 3: Flip it, well, posha, that's our normals.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this may not be the car. This may not

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Speaker 1: be the car for you because you're going to lose too.

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Speaker 1: You know once once it's a buy back. It's a buyback.

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Speaker 1: If you told me you were buying this car and

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Speaker 1: keeping it for eight years, trust me, Yeah, trust me.

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Speaker 1: Alfter five, it's not gonna it's not going to make

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Speaker 1: chips are worn out and you got to recomputer it anyway,

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Speaker 1: so it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: I'm just curious. I got a chance to get through

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Speaker 1: Listen, Dan, I appreciate the call. It was very interesting.

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Speaker 1: Let us know what you decide to do.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Would you let us know what you decide to do.

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Speaker 1: Drop us an email Ron at cardoctorshow dot com and

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Speaker 1: then we'll I'll announce it here on all right, thank

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Speaker 1: you very much, You're very welcome. You take good care.

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Speaker 1: Let's get over and talk to Ron in Pennsylvania with

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Speaker 1: a twenty ten Chevy Malibu and some questions. Ron, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the car doctor. How can I help?

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Speaker 2: Yes, my question is a couple of questions. Worth the

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Speaker 2: extra cost to buy a free flowing air filter like

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Speaker 2: cann or some other free flowing filler. Well, those filters

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Speaker 2: give better gas image and more parr. Also, will it'll

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Speaker 2: affect the car's warning and will bring the engine warning

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Speaker 2: light on?

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me answer the second half first, the properly

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Speaker 1: installed and I'm gonna talk from a Canaan experience, because

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of gypsies on the market. There

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Speaker 1: are a lot of imitations. There are a lot of

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Speaker 1: cheap filters on the market that are pink in color.

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Speaker 1: They look like a Canaan, but they're not a Canaan.

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Speaker 1: And I know this is I don't know how they're

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Speaker 1: going to react. Reproduction imitation parts is becoming such a

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Speaker 1: performance business, I think it was MSD. MSD recently had

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Speaker 1: a problem where control boxes, their ignition control boxes for

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Speaker 1: the hot rods. A shipment was seized coming into the ports,

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Speaker 1: and when federal authorities went through it, they sent some

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Speaker 1: of the samples off to MSD. MSD couldn't tell the

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Speaker 1: difference between that component and one of their own until

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Speaker 1: they physically took it apart and looked at the circuit boards.

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Speaker 1: That's how to what such lengths the imitators are going

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Speaker 1: through to create duplicate parts. That being said, to answer

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Speaker 1: the question from a CA and N perspective, a can

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Speaker 1: in air filter, to me is the best there is.

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Speaker 1: I've been using them since I was a kid back

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Speaker 1: in the seventies. To answer your question, if it's properly

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Speaker 1: installed and a CANN filter, it should not have any

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Speaker 1: reasonable effect or cause to turn on a check engine

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Speaker 1: light or void manufacturer's warranty. And that's just not me

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Speaker 1: saying that. Ron. If you go out to knfilters dot com,

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Speaker 1: it's all over their website. They're putting it in writing.

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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, K and N. This will

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Speaker 1: raise I'll tell you what I'll do. I will send

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Speaker 1: this clip off to K and N. This will raise

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Speaker 1: a comment from them because they take not allegations. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying you're saying that, but they take concern about

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Speaker 1: this very seriously. They want people to know that, in

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Speaker 1: no way, shape or form does a K and N

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Speaker 1: filter compromise vehicle warranty. So no, it has no bearing

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Speaker 1: pretty easy to install, so I can't imagine how you

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Speaker 1: would do it incorrectly. The first part of your question.

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Speaker 1: A K and N filter is designed to improve performance,

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Speaker 1: to provide better filtration, to give the engine more power

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Speaker 1: as a side effect. They don't make claims about mileage increases,

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Speaker 1: but I will tell you point blank every CANN I've

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Speaker 1: installed on vehicles over the years, most recently, everybody here

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Speaker 1: at the car doctor put a can in filter on

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Speaker 1: their vehicle. Everybody reports mileage increases of anywhere from one

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Speaker 1: to three. Tom actually got four and a half almost

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Speaker 1: his FOURD escape. CANN doesn't sell it to you as

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Speaker 1: a mileage improver. They sell it to you as a

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Speaker 1: performance enhancer as never have to replace the air filter again,

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Speaker 1: to Jason in Wisconsin with a two thousand and one

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Speaker 1: four Taurus and some problems with a misfire. Jason, welcome

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Speaker 4: Oh thanks for having me make sure.

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Speaker 1: How can I help?

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Speaker 4: I have a two thousand and one four Taurus and

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Speaker 4: as my daughter's car. Hey check into the night, comes

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Speaker 4: on and it stays on, but now it's starting to

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Speaker 4: I have three different codes that it came up. One

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Speaker 4: seemed to make a little improvement, but then the misfire.

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Speaker 4: I replaced the coil and it's still the same problem.

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Speaker 4: I can spark to THEE.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's still not it's that cylinder still isn't contributing.

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Speaker 1: Let's say it like that, right, In other words, let

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Speaker 1: me let me let me start the conversation here. Jason,

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Speaker 1: you've got a misfire fault on which cylinder number one?

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Speaker 4: Number one?

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Speaker 1: Okay, you've got a misfire on cylinder one. That doesn't

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Speaker 1: what does it do? Right? It runs rough right, starts

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Speaker 1: to miss So that's a fuel related or a fuel

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Speaker 1: with missfire, that's a mechanical issue. So there's three different

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Speaker 1: ways an engine can missfire. Is my point. That fault code,

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Speaker 1: by definition does not say no. Where in that description

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Speaker 1: does it say ignition. It says misfire on cylinder one.

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Speaker 1: Now you've got to determine just which it is. So

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Speaker 1: you replaced the coil correct?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: All right? Now, the fault code for eger do you

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Speaker 1: remember which number that was?

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Speaker 4: That is P zero four zero one.

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Speaker 1: Okay, P zero four zero one. This is going to

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Speaker 1: a twenty four valve dual overhead cam motor, correct, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right. If you look where the eger valve is,

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Speaker 2: Ye?

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Speaker 1: Okay, there's three wires going there. One's going to be

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Speaker 1: going to be under three tenths of a vault. Typically,

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Speaker 1: inducing an issue on cylinder one, creating that problem, but

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Speaker 1: generally we would have a misfire on more than one cylinder,

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Speaker 1: all right, What I'd like you to do is take

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Speaker 1: Does it fire on that cylinder? Okay? All right? If

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Speaker 1: If that's that's the case, we know, because new doesn't

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Speaker 1: not work in cylinder one. At that point, you've got

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Speaker 1: two wires coming into the coil connector correct, Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: one side's going to be hot. That's twelve vault feed

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Speaker 1: the power the coil. The ground side is the driver

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Speaker 1: from the PCM. All right. I want to know. And

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Speaker 1: we have a fuel fault there? Now, one last thing,

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Speaker 1: you can take that coil out of cylinder one and

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Speaker 1: put a spark tester across it all?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: Do you know what a spark tester is?

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean when I say that, Well,

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Speaker 4: I took the wire off when I was running and

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Speaker 4: there was no spark in there, and all the rest

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Speaker 1: Is this a coil on plug motor or is this

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Speaker 1: a spark plug wire motor? Do you have a Do

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Speaker 1: you have a coil wire coming out of the coil

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Speaker 1: pack on the back of the cylinder head or do

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Speaker 1: you have individual coil packs up front?

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Speaker 4: It's just one okay, right, Dual.

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Speaker 1: Overhead cam motors had two variations of that. I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what, Jason, stay put. I'm gonna hold you over.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to let you go and send you

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Speaker 1: in the wrong direction. Stay put. We're gonna talk about this.

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Speaker 1: Uh right after the break. I'm running ending in the car.

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