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Speaker 1: Welcome in Tuesday edition, Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: all of you hanging out with us as we embark

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Speaker 1: on another day of true telling in what is often

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Speaker 1: a sea of anarchy and breaklely lies. We're going to

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Speaker 1: update you on a strike that has taken place inside

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Speaker 1: Middle East again, big story there. These were the Hamas

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Speaker 1: and I know you hit on a bunch of them yesterday, Buck,

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Speaker 1: Icky, that's the essence of it. A lot of people

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Speaker 2: It's it's the media that is doing the misrepresentation. It's

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Speaker 3: No one's going to stabbed on the subway.

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Speaker 3: And objective data.

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Speaker 1: If we are going to truly address violent crime, Objective

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Speaker 1: I think this kills the argument, but I think it's

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Speaker 3: Well, this is the other part.

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Speaker 2: There's so many layers here, Clay, this is there's there's

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Speaker 3: I told you.

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Speaker 3: First of all, he was fine. He had like a

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Speaker 2: It looked like he maybe cut himself shaving, and it

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Speaker 2: All the racism against black people, all the all the

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Speaker 2: that was immediate national conversation. A Ukrainian refugee bruly murdered

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Speaker 2: That's actually not a conversation we should have as a country.

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Speaker 2: Caroline Levett White House best Secretary is speaking about the

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Speaker 2: Decarl Brown murder, alleged murder on that light rail.

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Speaker 3: Let's hear what the press sector has to say. Play.

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Speaker 7: Yes, this monster should have been locked up and Arena

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Speaker 7: should still be alive. But Democrat politicians, liberal judges, and

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Speaker 8: And perhaps most shamefully of all, the majority of the media.

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Speaker 7: Many outlets in this room decided that her murder was

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Speaker 7: spills plenty of ink trying to smear Daniel Penny for

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Speaker 7: defending a subway car from a deranged lunatic in New

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Speaker 7: truth that every American must know. Too many innocent people

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Speaker 7: failed experiment known as cashless bail that has been championed

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Speaker 8: Sounds nice, but it's not.

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Speaker 7: That task force was co authored by then Attorney General

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Speaker 7: It also advised to de emphasize some felony crimes, prioritize

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Speaker 7: quote restorative justice, and eliminate cash bail. Democrats in North

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Speaker 8: Again and again.

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Speaker 7: These reckless policies have turned too many many of American

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Speaker 7: abiding citizens. Enough is enough, and that is why President

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Speaker 7: Trump is doing everything in his power by taking action

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Speaker 8: President Trump firmly believes.

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Speaker 7: That to maintain order in public safety, we must incarcerate

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Speaker 7: individuals who's pending criminal charges or criminal history demonstrate a

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Speaker 2: All right, so Clay, let's come back here. Though, I

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Speaker 2: But I think Caroline Levitt, obviously fired up about this.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I think for women, in particular Clay, who see

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Speaker 2: But nonetheless, Clay, the feelings that people have about this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, the end goal here should be we

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Speaker 1: I give credit to Mayor Muriel Bowser of DC for saying,

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Speaker 3: Let's actually make it safer.

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Speaker 5: Buck.

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Speaker 3: I saw the.

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Speaker 1: Numbers shared the other day. Murders are down sixty percent

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Speaker 3: Now, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: That he can do that over the course of a

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Speaker 1: because the premise of BLM was, oh, cops are the

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Speaker 1: It's not actually true at all. Young black men are

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Speaker 1: No one, well, if you look at the data, is

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Speaker 1: You're seeing how many lives police protected, because as soon

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Speaker 3: Murder rate skyrocketing.

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Speaker 2: We're also seeing a shift in perception that is related

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Speaker 2: to an old, longstanding policy of lib news organizations. And

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Speaker 2: I remember project example, this is New York One is

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Speaker 2: a channel in New York Clay, New York City. That is,

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Speaker 2: if if Pravda was like transported from the Soviet Union

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Speaker 2: to New York City, it would be New York One.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it is so left wing, it is so

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Speaker 2: all about whatever the party needs whatever the committee decides

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Speaker 2: of the left. But you could see there. You could

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Speaker 2: see it on local news as well, and I would

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Speaker 2: watch I watch this. I watched local news in New

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Speaker 2: York growing up right. I would watch these different channels.

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Speaker 2: Actually had an aunt who was a well known local

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Speaker 3: And she's the one with red hair for those of

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Speaker 2: And the common thing you'd see is, oh, well, there

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Speaker 2: was a report today of a of a you know,

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Speaker 2: a violent, you know, violent maniac, like chasing somebody and

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Speaker 2: have a suspect here. The suspect is five 't ten,

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Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty five pounds in mail. But then

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Speaker 2: they'd also sometimes show the you know, they'd show like

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Speaker 2: so this is a black guy.

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Speaker 3: But they wouldn't say that. They would they.

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Speaker 2: Would often just leave out the description of the suspect

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Speaker 2: by race. They would just describe it as a man

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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty five pounds, And this became more and

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Speaker 2: more common. Also, they remove the racial descriptor from headlines,

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Speaker 2: depending on who it is. If the white guy stab

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Speaker 2: somebody in you know, stab somebody to death in Staten Island,

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Speaker 2: trust me, they're gonna make sure you all know that

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Speaker 2: it's a white guy stab somebody death.

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Speaker 3: They do this.

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Speaker 2: This has been long standing policy that they won't describe

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Speaker 2: the race of a perpetrator if the race is black

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Speaker 2: or Hispanic, generally speaking, local news, a lot of others,

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Speaker 2: or they'll try to bury it far down. This has changed, though,

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Speaker 2: Clay because of body cameras, because of surveillance cameras, and

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Speaker 2: because of the free sharing of that information on x SO.

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Speaker 10: Now, whenever there's a really see crime that occurs somewhere

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Speaker 10: in the country, you know what, a producer Alley just

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Speaker 10: send us something, didn't They drive like a truck into

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Speaker 10: a what was it a watch store or something and

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Speaker 10: they beat some.

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Speaker 3: Eighty eight year old guy.

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Speaker 2: Whenever there's a really we get to see who's doing it.

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Speaker 2: So the media can tell us as much as they

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Speaker 2: want that we're not actually observing a pattern. But people

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Speaker 2: are observing a pattern because they can see on the

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Speaker 2: video what is happening in this instance and in many

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Speaker 2: other cases just like it. And this is where I

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Speaker 2: come back to At its best, the job of the

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Speaker 2: media should be to take anecdote and utilize it to

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Speaker 2: tell a story about why something larger matters, because all

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Speaker 2: of us respond to individual stories better than we do

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Speaker 2: raw data.

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Speaker 3: So you can sit back and say, hey.

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Speaker 1: The rate of violent crime in Memphis, Tennessee is whatever

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Speaker 1: it is per one hundred thousand, and you can put

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Speaker 1: that into a flow chart, and some people you and

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Speaker 1: I would be data nerds who would look at this

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Speaker 1: and say, oh, let's address this. Most people don't respond

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Speaker 1: to numbers. They respond to story. And so the murder

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Speaker 1: of the twenty three year old young Ukrainian girl on

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Speaker 1: video as it was is actually illustrative of rates of

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Speaker 1: violent crime that are too high. And so the same

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Speaker 1: thing happening with Lake and Riley and her murder an

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Speaker 1: in Athens, Georgia. All of these are crystallizing larger issues

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Speaker 1: that exist. The problem with left wing media is they

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Speaker 1: largely tell stories that are not representative of larger issues.

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Speaker 1: Like I don't know if you talked about this yesterday,

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Speaker 1: but compare how Daniel Penny on public transit in New

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Speaker 1: York City responding to a violent person who has a

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Speaker 1: long history of crimes in the past, who was making

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Speaker 1: threats on public transportation. Look get how that response was covered.

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Speaker 1: I mean they charged him with a crime. Compared to

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Speaker 1: how it's been covered in the Washington Post, for instance,

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Speaker 1: or MSNBC and CNN what happened on the public transit

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Speaker 1: in Charlotte, I mean, it's impossible to justify that from

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Speaker 1: a news gathering perspective.

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Speaker 2: You know, The Blaze and others have reported this Clay,

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Speaker 2: but I haven't seen this getting more widespread coverage yet.

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Speaker 2: But we looked into this, We've played the audio, We've

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Speaker 2: put it through GROC, We've put it through By the way,

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Speaker 2: AI also is playing a role in all of this too,

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Speaker 2: because people can get instantaneous answers about so much now

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Speaker 2: without the filter of communists running Google. So GROC is

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Speaker 2: a fantastic tool. But when you look at GROC, de

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Speaker 2: Carlo's Brown, the guy who stabbed this girl, and people

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Speaker 2: get sometimes frust with me say allegedly, I mean technically

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Speaker 2: it is allegedly. He hasn't you know, he hasn't actually

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Speaker 2: been convicted yet, but we's all on video. He says

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Speaker 2: I got that white girl. I got that white girl

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Speaker 2: multiple times on the video that seems like a assuming

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Speaker 2: that that is factual and accurate, which again the Blaze

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Speaker 2: where I used to work, has reported this as accurate,

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Speaker 2: and the video is out there, that seems to be

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Speaker 2: another detail of the story that people should become familiar

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Speaker 2: with and understand. Well, that changes things a bit as well,

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Speaker 2: doesn't it. And when we look at motivation, I'm with.

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Speaker 1: You, we'll come back to this where hate crimes in general,

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Speaker 1: I think are I care about the crime, not as

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Speaker 1: much the motivation for why the crime was done.

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Speaker 3: But again, if.

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Speaker 1: This is one of those situations where you say, if

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Speaker 1: It's the lead story on CNN, MSNBC, the New York Times,

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Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We are

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Speaker 1: joined now by North Carolina Congressman Tim Moore leading a

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Speaker 1: response to the murder of a Ukrainian woman on the

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Speaker 1: Charlotte light rail. I should mention there are more videos

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Speaker 1: coming out of the stabbing, and you can see no

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Speaker 1: one coming to this young woman's aid, despite the fact

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Speaker 1: they can see her clearly being stabbed. I would suggest, now,

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Speaker 1: I know this is dark and it is uncomfortable, but Congressman,

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Speaker 1: as we bring you in, why has.

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Speaker 3: The full video not been released?

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Speaker 1: And I don't say that because I am in favor

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Speaker 1: of showing violent acts, but I do think it's important

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Speaker 1: that we see what actually happens, and certainly if you

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Speaker 1: think about the George Floyd video. The entire George Floyd

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Speaker 1: video was shared and used to drive the burning of

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Speaker 1: so many American cities and to set an artificial narrative

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Speaker 1: about police. The narrative that there is far too much

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Speaker 1: violent crime and that criminals who are arrested are let

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Speaker 1: far too often back on the streets is one that

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Speaker 1: is actually accurate and in the case of this murder,

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Speaker 1: fourteen time arrested serial felon who finally decided that he

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Speaker 1: was going to kill and that he was going to

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Speaker 1: say that he was motivated to kill this woman because

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Speaker 1: she was white. And Congressman, you represent a part of

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Speaker 1: North Carolina and also a part of Charlotte. What is

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Speaker 1: the reaction from your constituency and what do you think

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Speaker 1: about why we have yet to see this full video release.

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Speaker 5: Hey guys, thanks for having me on the show. I

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Speaker 5: wish it were under better circumstances. Obviously, the reaction to

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Speaker 5: folks that I'm hearing from back home in North Carolina

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Speaker 5: are simply the same thing that that that you hear,

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Speaker 5: the same thing that your your listeners are probably feeling

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Speaker 5: when they when they see this, when they hear about

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Speaker 5: this it's absolutely discussed, and it's a breakdown in the system.

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Speaker 5: And what we've seen, uh, time and time again, and

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Speaker 5: certain particularly in some of the blue North Carolina is

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Speaker 5: a red county seeing a red state, but Mecklenberg is

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Speaker 5: a blue county. And we see in a lot of

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Speaker 5: cities around the country where you get these liberal judges

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Speaker 5: that get into, these liberal magistrates that come in and

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Speaker 5: they have these wow policies where they just are just

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Speaker 5: soft on crime. And to your point, this guy, I mean,

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Speaker 5: this guy was a convicted fellow with violent violent rap sheet,

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Speaker 5: had skipped cord in the past, had had fired arms offenses.

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Speaker 5: And this guy, I mean, he should have never been

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Speaker 5: on the street where he could do this. And and

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Speaker 5: unfortunately this is not an isolated incident where this is

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Speaker 5: just like a one off. I mean, I would submit

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Speaker 5: to you there are these things happen every day through

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Speaker 5: about our country. Which is, by the way, one reason

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Speaker 5: that I'm co sponsoring with at least to find a

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Speaker 5: bill to withhold federal funds from states and local governments

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Speaker 5: that fail to adhere to cash bail policies. If these

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Speaker 5: guys are being held under a cash bail, they're going

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Speaker 5: to be in jail, and a lot of people, frankly

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Speaker 5: that they shouldn't even be given bond where there's such

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Speaker 5: a dead danger and a menace to society. But Congress

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Speaker 5: really should have been in jail.

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Speaker 2: Congressman, we appreciate you being being here with us. So

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Speaker 2: you have signed a letter all ten members of the

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Speaker 2: North Carolina House Republican North Carolina House. These are Republicans, obviously,

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Speaker 2: the demanding the removal of unelected magistry judge Teresa Stokes

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Speaker 2: who released this repeat offender, who went on. Tell us

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Speaker 2: about this process and is it likely to succeed to

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Speaker 2: try to have this judge removed because I know state

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Speaker 2: by state these rules can be can be very different.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so this is a magistrate judge, so she's matter

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Speaker 5: of fact. My understanding is she graduated law school, would

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Speaker 5: never even pass the bar exone. And I've been in

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Speaker 5: the law. I've been an attorney for thirty years, so

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Speaker 5: I you know, kind of know this stuff. But she

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Speaker 5: is she can be removed by the district court judge.

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Speaker 5: She's not elected and she should be. And I felt so,

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Speaker 5: you know, I mean, I represent I'm the only Republican

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Speaker 5: who represents Charlotte in Congress and the other members of

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Speaker 5: Democrat who represents most of Charlotte. But it's just it's

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Speaker 5: just disgusting this happen. And she has no business being

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Speaker 5: a judge and being a master if she doesn't have

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Speaker 5: any better discernment than to let someone like this loose

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Speaker 5: on the streets. I mean, this guy should have been

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Speaker 5: in jail. This should have never happened.

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Speaker 1: I I can't believe she didn't pass the well, she

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Speaker 1: didn't pass the bar. But let's go into this because

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Speaker 1: I think you're raising a really interesting question. I've tried

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Speaker 1: to do the math. I've been a lawyer for twenty

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Speaker 1: one years now, so I've managed to pass a couple

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Speaker 1: of bar exams over the years. We talked about the

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Speaker 1: analogy which I've seen shared, and I do think it's

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Speaker 1: an interesting one that if you are a bartender and

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Speaker 1: you overserve someone, and as you well know, I'm sure Congressman,

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Speaker 1: if you're a lawyer, there are significant consequences for bartenders.

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Speaker 1: At times, they can even be criminally prosecuted for overserving

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Speaker 1: people who they know are a danger to the larger community,

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Speaker 1: and they allow to engage in violent behavior as a result,

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Speaker 1: partly of their action. How do we have higher standards

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Speaker 1: for bartenders than we do for judges.

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Speaker 5: That's a shame, isn't it? It certainly is. And look

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Speaker 5: for folks to run for judge, all they have to

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Speaker 5: do is be an attorney in good standing and get elected,

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Speaker 5: right And I would say the vast majority of elective

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Speaker 5: judges do a good job. But you do have someone

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Speaker 5: out there that are just just so far left. But

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Speaker 5: you know, one thing we've talked about doing is actually

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Speaker 5: finding is to your point about like with the bartender,

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Speaker 5: like in the dram shop laws, where they can be

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Speaker 5: held civilly responsible for any you know, for any prenny

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Speaker 5: injuries that happen as is all of serving someone who

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Speaker 5: drinks too much when having a rut. Uh. We're actually

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Speaker 5: looking right now at personal liability for a judge who

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Speaker 5: turns someone loose and then goes out and commits a

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Speaker 5: crime thereafter. You know, maybe that's the way to get

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Speaker 5: people's attention. I mean, that's actually a bill that we're

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Speaker 5: we're in the drafting phases right now. Clearly we're going

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Speaker 5: to you know, look at constitutional provisions and whatnot, but

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Speaker 5: I think there ought to be some accountability. I mean

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Speaker 5: if somebody is doing something that's bad, you ought to

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Speaker 5: be responsible for.

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Speaker 2: And so, what do you think about the the moves

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Speaker 2: by the federal government because of this White House, the

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Speaker 2: Trump administration to at least offer up and perhaps even

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Speaker 2: get a little more forceful than that assistants from the

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Speaker 2: federal law enforcement side to try to help cities that

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Speaker 2: are truly crime plague.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's amazing to me that we have some

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Speaker 5: of these liberal Democrat governors around the country, and I

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Speaker 5: look at what's happening in Chicago and some of these

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Speaker 5: other things. Were these some of these liberal mayors who

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Speaker 5: hate Donald Trump more than they love their communities and

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Speaker 5: more than they love and care about the people they

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Speaker 5: are supposed to represent. I mean, these some of these communities.

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Speaker 5: I'm I'm talking from from the District of Columbia right now, right,

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Speaker 5: I mean, and I'm a new member of Congress. I'm

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Speaker 5: been in eight months, and I showed up up here

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Speaker 5: and what I saw here was a frigging goat rodeo.

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Speaker 5: In terms of, uh, the amount of crime and homelessness

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Speaker 5: and drugs. It's just embarrassing. And it's our nation's capital.

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Speaker 5: And and I'm glad that the President stood up and

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Speaker 5: you did something in there, and it's actually has a

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Speaker 5: safer feeling. I hope it's sustained. But this president has

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Speaker 5: shown this is not a political stump. The President has

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Speaker 5: offered this up to help, you know, to help the

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Speaker 5: people that live in these cities, because you know what,

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Speaker 5: when it comes to crime, it shouldn't be Republican Democrats.

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Speaker 5: But guess what, these Democrats are making it a partisan issue.

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Speaker 5: And I'm hopeful, I'm so hopeful that the people are

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Speaker 5: paying attention to this and because where there's an opportunity

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Speaker 5: to get help, folks ought to take it, because look,

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Speaker 5: look at Chicago, they're overwhelmed. But you know, and back

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Speaker 5: in North Carolina. The point there, I think we can

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Speaker 5: kind of surgically say, in that case, that's some of

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Speaker 5: these loose bail policies being a document on these liberal judges.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's it really is going to require all

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Speaker 5: of the love to get to make our cities safe again.

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Speaker 1: You know, Congressman, the North Carolina is a super fascinating state,

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Speaker 1: as you well know, because there's a very big difference

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Speaker 1: between let's say the left wing college. Can you unities

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Speaker 1: that encircle some of the campuses and the people who

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Speaker 1: live in western North Carolina or the people who live

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Speaker 1: in other rural parts of North Carolina. It's a very

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Speaker 1: different state, meaning there's a lot of variety. But doesn't

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Speaker 1: it unite everyone to say, Hey, to your point, we

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Speaker 1: just want to be safe in the state of North

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Speaker 1: Carolina in our big cities, white, Black, Asian, Hispanic. You

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Speaker 1: hit on it, but I talked about it earlier. I've

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Speaker 1: been talking about a lot on the show. I'm staggered

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Speaker 1: that the Democrat response to evidence of high rates of

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Speaker 1: violent crime is well, it's a little bit better than

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Speaker 1: it used to be, as if that's somehow a good thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the craziest thing that I've seen. And I

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Speaker 5: will tell you that in my district that I represent,

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Speaker 5: I have urban areas in it, but I have some

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Speaker 5: very rural areas. I mean, I have a lot of

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Speaker 5: the mountains of North Carolina that were ravaged by Hurricane Kallena.

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Speaker 5: In fact, it's a big district. And what I hear

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Speaker 5: across that entire geographic area and across the political spectrum

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Speaker 5: is people saying enough was enough of this crime, Enough

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Speaker 5: is enough of a broken criminal justice system that that

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Speaker 5: that values the rights of criminals over the rights of

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Speaker 5: people who are just trying to be law abiding citizens

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Speaker 5: going about their business. I mean, think about this this.

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Speaker 5: I mean, this young lady fled Ukraine coming to America

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Speaker 5: for for for safety, is own a light rail train,

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Speaker 5: is a passenger there, you know, as you've gotten off

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Speaker 5: work in this in this evil guy just stabs her

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Speaker 5: in the net. And then the other thing on the

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Speaker 5: video you asked about the video, I don't know why

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Speaker 5: the rest of the video hasn't been a case. I mean,

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Speaker 5: it may be the respect the victor. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: That's that's that's.

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Speaker 3: Why I understand that argument.

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Speaker 1: But sometimes you have to see a video in its

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Speaker 1: totality to really shock the conscience. And so I just

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Speaker 1: would I or anybody listening out here in North Carolina

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Speaker 1: or and I bet you would probably agree with me.

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Speaker 1: I'll let you answer it too. But to me, we

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Speaker 1: need the full unedited video of what happened to understand

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Speaker 1: the scope of evil, and we should have to watch it,

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Speaker 1: those of us who are adults obviously, to recognize what

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Speaker 1: we have allowed to occur. Because it's one thing if

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Speaker 1: a violent perpetrator out of nowhere acts the guy was

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Speaker 1: arrested fourteen times. I think the oh, the guy deserves

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Speaker 1: a second chance, third chance, nobody deserves a fifteenth chance.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and so I want to get your reaction

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Speaker 1: to that. But I think we need to stare into

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Speaker 1: evil and see it.

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Speaker 5: I think I think people need to need to see it.

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Speaker 5: It's ugly and there's a video that has been there's

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Speaker 5: been additional video released. I don't know if you guys

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Speaker 5: have seen this yet, but there's one showing right after

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Speaker 5: he's stabbed and she's there and she's and nobody, nobody

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Speaker 5: own this on the damn train he is doing anything

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Speaker 5: to help her. I'm like, and I just saw that

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Speaker 5: maybe like fifteen minutes before I just came on the

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Speaker 5: show with you, and I'm just I'm still kind of

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Speaker 5: stunned by seeing that that no one, no other people

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Speaker 5: on that train did a thing to help this lady.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's just that's terrible. I just I don't

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Speaker 5: even know what to say about it. I just it's we.

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Speaker 1: Have shared these videos and they're dark and disturbing, and

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Speaker 1: I would encourage you. I know a lot of people kids, grandkids,

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Speaker 1: they don't need to watch this. But I think every

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Speaker 1: adult you need to steal your soul and you need

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Speaker 1: to watch it because you need to see what evil

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Speaker 1: is capable of, and you need to look at it

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Speaker 1: and you need to think we all can do better,

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Speaker 1: and we got to get these people off our streets

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Speaker 1: and we got to hold them accountable.

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Speaker 5: Well absolutely, and this, you know, this should be a

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Speaker 5: call to action. And what's been amazing. There's been a

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Speaker 5: few of us that have been digging around trying to

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Speaker 5: find out what happened because a lot of the details

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Speaker 5: were kind of murkiest and what exactly occurred, and when

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Speaker 5: the video got released is run a few of us

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Speaker 5: from making noise about this is terrible? Why is nobody

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Speaker 5: talking about it? And then of course you guys are

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Speaker 5: talking about it and others are, but you know, mainstream

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Speaker 5: media is just now kind of sort of begrudgingly in

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Speaker 5: some ways coming along talking about this. And it's just,

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Speaker 5: I mean, crime is crime, and to your point, evil

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Speaker 5: is evil, and I do think there's a I mean,

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Speaker 5: it's a reminder of people to be vigilant, to be aware,

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Speaker 5: to understand that evil was out there and that we

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Speaker 5: need to be able to protect ourselves. You know, we

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Speaker 5: need to be able to we need to be able

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Speaker 5: to have a firearm, he able to protect ourselves from something.

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Speaker 5: But it's just it's a sad state too when you

844
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Speaker 5: know there aren't folks who when they see this, that

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Speaker 5: don't intervene and try to help and renderate. I'm just

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Speaker 5: you know, I do think there's it's hard to watch.

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Speaker 5: It's hard to watch, but you know what, we need

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Speaker 5: to stare it in the face and we need to

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Speaker 5: we need to deal with it. But I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 5: you something, this presence not sitting either by in this

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Speaker 5: Congress is not sitting ont of you by I say,

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Speaker 5: we're looking at legislation right now. It's like nothing's enough.

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Speaker 5: These communities are going to do things that do not

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Speaker 5: follow the wall and consistent law. When it comes to

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Speaker 5: cash bill, then there's going to be consequences, and that

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Speaker 5: may be losing federal dollars. Who knows, that may be

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Speaker 5: the only thing that'll get some of these folkes attention.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, North Carolina Congress and Tim Moore, appreciate

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Speaker 2: you being with us or thank.

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Speaker 5: You thanks for having me on. Guys.

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Speaker 1: I hate to say it, but a lot of people

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Speaker 1: out there in the wake of what they are seeing

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Speaker 1: of violence all over the country, are deciding to protect themselves,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes that protection can be of a lethal variety.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of you have decided that you want

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Speaker 1: to buy guns and you want to protect you and

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Speaker 1: your family in that way. But also a lot of

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Speaker 1: you have non lethal methods that you want to be

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Speaker 1: providing to your kids, to your grandkids, to your different

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Speaker 1: homes out there, and that's what Saber does. They are

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Speaker 1: non lethal. They've got pepper spray, pepper spray projectiles for

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Speaker 1: self protection, and these are amazing when it comes to

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Look, we've

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Speaker 1: got a lot of people reacting to the heinous murder

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Speaker 1: of a young, innocent Ukrainian woman, and that includes the

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Speaker 1: President of the United States. Donald Trump, who Buck, you

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Speaker 1: and I have talked about this for years, has an

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Speaker 1: inate ability to make the people in the media who

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Speaker 1: hate him talk about what he wants them to talk about,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's going to be very difficult for

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Speaker 1: them to cover as this video continues to come out.

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Speaker 1: Let me also say this before we play the audio. Buck,

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Speaker 1: Are you with me that the full video has to

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Speaker 1: come out or do you think that it should be

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Speaker 1: not released? What's your take on that?

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Speaker 3: In general? Yes, it should come out.

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Speaker 2: It's I think that I think the whole video should

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Speaker 2: come out. I mean, I said this, this is you

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Speaker 2: know that I'm not recommending ever watched the full video,

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Speaker 2: but for people who want to understand exactly what happened there, Yes,

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Speaker 2: the full video. You know, the full video should come out.

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Speaker 2: The full George Floyd video came. Yes, I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I think when the full video comes out, it becomes

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Speaker 1: increasingly difficult not to cover it.

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Speaker 2: The fact that they have sensored on the way it

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Speaker 2: is far more, far more heinous than what happened to

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Speaker 2: George Floyd. I'm not comparing them, and I'm just saying

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Speaker 2: in terms of let people see what they need to

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Speaker 2: see to make the judgments about what happened. That's the

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Speaker 2: comparison here.

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Speaker 3: No doubt.

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Speaker 1: Okay, here is President Trump, this is just in the

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Speaker 1: last thirty minutes or so releasing this statement. It's two

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Speaker 1: different cuts. We'll play cut one. We might react to it,

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Speaker 1: call for more if we don't want to react to

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Speaker 1: it yet. But here is Trump reacting to the murder

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Speaker 1: of this young, innocent, twenty three year old Ukrainian woman

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Speaker 1: on public transit in Charlotte.

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Speaker 11: For far too long, Americans have been forced to put

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Speaker 11: up with Democrat run cities that set loose savage, bloodthirsty

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Speaker 11: criminals to prey on innocent people, really very very innocent people.

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Speaker 11: In every place. They control radical left judges, politicians, and activists,

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Speaker 11: and they've adopted a policy of catch and release for

941
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Speaker 11: thugs and killers. In Charlotte, North Carolina, we saw the

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Speaker 11: results of these policies when a twenty three year old

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Speaker 11: woman who came here from Ukraine met her bloody end

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Speaker 11: on a public train. Beautiful young girl that never had

945
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Speaker 11: problems in life, for the magnificent future in this country,

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Speaker 11: and now she's dead. She was slaughtered by a deranged

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Speaker 11: monster who was roaming free after fourteen prior arrests.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's play cut to here.

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Speaker 11: Trump continues, we cannot allow it to prave criminal element

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Speaker 11: of violent repeat offenders to continue spreading destruction and death

951
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Speaker 11: throughout our country. We have to respond with force and strength.

952
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Speaker 11: We have to be vicious, just like they are. It's

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Speaker 11: the only thing they understand. Twenty four of the top

954
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Speaker 11: twenty five most dangerous cities in America are run by

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Speaker 11: Democrat mayors. Fifty people were murdered in Chicago in recent weeks,

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Speaker 11: with hundreds being shot, and it's time to stop this madness.

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Speaker 11: The people of our country need to insist on protection, safety,

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Speaker 11: law and order. We have proven that it can be

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Speaker 11: done because we did it right here in DC and

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Speaker 11: District of Columbia. The capital of America was a bloodthirsty, horrible,

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Speaker 11: dangerous place, one of the worst, and now it's a

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Speaker 11: crime free city and we're going to keep it that way.

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Speaker 11: It can be done, It can happen fast. All we

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Speaker 11: want is please, mister President. We need help. Chicago needs help,

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Speaker 11: Other cities needs help. We'll do what has to be

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Speaker 11: done because we're going to make America safe again, and

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Speaker 11: that includes our big cities. We're going to make those

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Speaker 11: cities safe.

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Speaker 3: Fuck.

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Speaker 1: This is again, take away Trump and just pretend that

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Speaker 1: you had never heard anybody make any statement about Trump

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Speaker 1: in your entire life.

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Speaker 3: This is the least.

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Speaker 1: Controversial, most non partisan goal that any politician could ever have.

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Speaker 1: There are too many murders, and we're going to do

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Speaker 1: whatever we can to drive down the rates of violent

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Speaker 1: crime in major cities across America. Sometimes I just think

978
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Speaker 1: you have to step back and just look at this. Logically,

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Speaker 1: there's no way to be opposed to this.

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Speaker 2: The Democrat apparatus would rather the murder rate continue where

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Speaker 2: it is instead of accepting that Trump is right, accepting

982
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Speaker 2: that the right is right, and accepting that there will

983
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Speaker 2: be a disproportionate rate of incarceration from increased enforcement of

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Speaker 2: the law, which will affect a very small percentage overall.

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Speaker 2: But some black men in this country as well as

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Speaker 2: by the way, Latino men, and some jurisdictions are considerably

987
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Speaker 2: overrepresented in the incarceration rates. But it depends where you are.

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Speaker 2: I mean New York, for example, is a jurisdiction where

989
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Speaker 2: that is the case. And they would rather the murder

990
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Speaker 2: rate continue than to than to accept those things that

991
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Speaker 2: those things will happen. Trump is right, the right has

992
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Speaker 2: been correct, and you're going to have disproportionate or disparate impact.

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Speaker 2: Dare I say, from the enhanced enforcement of these laws

994
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Speaker 2: or really just enforcement of them and instead of giving

995
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Speaker 2: people fifteenth and fiftieth chances, deciding that enough is enough.

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Speaker 2: So I think Trump is on very very solid ground

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Speaker 2: with this. And you'll notice, Clay, I read a description

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Speaker 2: of restorative justice in one of the breaks. I was

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Speaker 2: just curre to see what the I know what it is.

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Speaker 2: I've heard people talking about it for a long time.

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Speaker 2: It's it's the kind of idea that people who are

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Speaker 2: living in some other reality or on some other planet

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Speaker 2: would come up with, which is we're gonna we're gonna

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Speaker 2: have victims, Oh sorry, we're gonna have perpetrators reconcile with victims. Really,

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Speaker 2: how do you do that in a case like this?

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Speaker 2: What reconciliations are going to be for the maniac who

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Speaker 2: stabs some girl to death in the throat for absolutely

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Speaker 2: no reason other than perhaps racial animis, which now is

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Speaker 2: coming out as well based on the audio.

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Speaker 3: What what? What are you like?

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00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 2: What are they even talking about when they say that

1012
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:41,760
Speaker 2: we need to have restorative just how about just justice?

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00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 3: How about is the closest.

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Speaker 2: By the way you can argue, I think very unfortunately, tragically,

1015
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 2: very effectively that there really is. There's no such thing

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Speaker 2: as justice, because you can't give this girl her life back,

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Speaker 2: but you can try to stop the next one, and

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Speaker 2: you can take this person out of society so he

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Speaker 2: can't threaten or harm another person, and you can try

1020
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Speaker 2: to prohibit or try to prevent more of this from

1021
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Speaker 2: happening from others who see if I do this, I'm

1022
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Speaker 2: going to be punished by this state in a way

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Speaker 2: that makes me very unhappy, you know, not that I'm

1024
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Speaker 2: going to go to some rehabilitation center and be treated

1025
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Speaker 2: with kid gloves.

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Speaker 3: I've got.

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Speaker 1: My anger has grown all weekend I watch this video,

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Speaker 1: and that's why I think the full video has to

1029
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Speaker 1: be released. We have to rectify the system that we

1030
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Speaker 1: have created where we're more concerned about criminals being treated

1031
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Speaker 1: fairly than we are innocent people being victims of crimes.

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Speaker 3: This is basically just.

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Speaker 1: A balance, right, and all of life is trying to

1034
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Speaker 1: balance equities in some way. Who is the good person,

1035
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Speaker 1: who's the bad person? Who behaved in a admirable fashion,

1036
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Speaker 1: who behaved in a dishonorable fashion. How do we reconcile

1037
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Speaker 1: that in the courts? I think what this situation is

1038
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Speaker 1: emblem of is we have become far too concerned with

1039
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Speaker 1: how criminals are treated and not concerned enough with how

1040
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Speaker 1: innocent people who are victims of criminals are treated.

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Speaker 3: This should never happen. Let me hit some of your talkbacks.

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Speaker 1: Michael in Arizona, listening on news Talk five point fifty

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Speaker 1: KFYI what you got for us?

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Speaker 9: People are missing the big picture here. It's not just

1045
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 9: the right Republican outrage. It should be an American outraged, liberal, independent,

1046
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Speaker 9: non voting, non caring, white, black, green, yellow, orange, all

1047
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 9: of it. Everybody should be outraged. You shouldn't be able

1048
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Speaker 9: to murder something like that on a train while you're

1049
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Speaker 9: coming home from where just sitting there mino business and

1050
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Speaker 9: get stabbed.

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Speaker 3: It's disgusting.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think we've said that quite a lot on

1053
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Speaker 1: the show. This should be nonpartisan. I would echo what

1054
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Speaker 1: he said and vip email. Kyle says the congressman we

1055
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Speaker 1: just talked with. Tim Moore says he was surprised no

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Speaker 1: one intervened. The answer is easy, Daniel, any Kyle rittenhouse.

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Speaker 1: People are scared to get involved. Now you and I

1058
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Speaker 1: were talking, I don't know if we said this on air,

1059
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Speaker 1: off air. I don't think anybody can anticipate in this

1060
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Speaker 1: situation the stabbing occurring because it occurs so rapidly. This

1061
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Speaker 1: is not a situation where a guy's walking around with

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Speaker 1: a weapon in his hand.

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Speaker 2: Throws no warning, no warning at all. And that you

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Speaker 2: can tell from the video. He just stood up and stabbed.

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Speaker 1: And now what you and I have said, And again

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Speaker 1: this is in the video the congressman was referring to,

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Speaker 1: is after the stabbing, the guy walks away on the

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Speaker 1: light rail, this Charlotte Public transportation, and no one comes

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Speaker 1: to the girl's aide. That's this girl is bleeding out.

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Speaker 1: She has no real idea probably what's happened to her

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Speaker 1: at all, because the stabbing happens so fast it doesn't

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Speaker 1: appear there was any conversation or any interaction between these

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Speaker 1: two at all. She gets stabbed, she looks up at him,

1074
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Speaker 1: he walks past. The weapon is dripping blood, and other

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Speaker 1: people in that section of the train see her leaning

1076
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Speaker 1: over as her blood is starting to pour out, as

1077
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Speaker 1: her life is leaving, and no one does anything at

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Speaker 1: all to comfort her or even offer any support at all.

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Speaker 1: In fact, people stand up and walk away. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: is the lack of humanity we are referencing. Now, if

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Speaker 1: this again, we're a situation where the guy's waving the

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Speaker 1: weapon around, nobody does anything. I think your written House example,

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Speaker 1: I think your Daniel Penny example could come into play

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Speaker 1: where I would say the Daniel Plenty analogy. Buck is

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Speaker 1: particularly apropos is how in the world can the Washington

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Speaker 1: Post and MSNBC and CNN and the New York Times,

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Speaker 1: although it did happen in New York, justify writing hundreds

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Speaker 1: the priminal prosecution brought against him, and largely not even

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Speaker 1: cover this story.

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Speaker 2: Getting to the whole time. It shows beyond any there's

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Speaker 2: no doubt about the ideological manipulation that goes on with

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Speaker 2: that is preferable to places like the New York Times

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Speaker 2: the Washington Post. You know, it's interesting as well. I

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Speaker 2: mean that the video is particularly it's horrific the additional video.

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Speaker 2: As I'm watching it here, Clay, everyone else on the

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Speaker 2: I don't even see anyone grab a cell phone to

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Speaker 2: They essentially leave her to die, and there's no action

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Speaker 3: They didn't see.

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Speaker 2: I'm not indicting any individual in this video, but I'm

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Speaker 2: See if you can render aid, See if you can.

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Speaker 2: You know every You don't have to be first. You

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Speaker 2: No one's trying to make a tourniquet or a compress here.

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Speaker 3: Nothing, nothing. No one did a darn thing in this video.

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Speaker 1: And the question We played the Brian Stelter audio for you,

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Speaker 1: and we'll play some more of your talk backs when

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Speaker 5: Why?

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Speaker 1: I think the media covered. Somebody say, well, why do

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Speaker 11: Right?

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Speaker 1: So, why do you care what the Washington Post, CNN, MSNBC.

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Speaker 1: We know, yes, and I love that. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: That is common, right. And you could be.

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Speaker 1: we're not commonly having a conversation because they have no

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Speaker 2: Play without the omnipresence of surveillance cameras and platforms like

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Speaker 2: But this would be a local crime story and we

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Speaker 1: I think cameras being everywhere has created all sorts of complexities.

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Speaker 1: And if you got teenagers out there. I'm talking about

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