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Speaker 2: phone calls, pull question, play of the day, and stats

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Speaker 2: of the day coming up. Jalen Brown wins the finals MVP,

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Speaker 2: which is kind of sneaky. I know there was a

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Speaker 2: lot of talk about this, where who's the leader, who's

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Speaker 2: the best player on the team. Jason Tatum is still

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Speaker 2: the best player on the team. He's always going to

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Speaker 2: get your best defender. And as a result, I thought

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Speaker 2: Jalen Brown stepped up, and by stepping up, it felt

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Speaker 2: like he stood out and therefore he won the MVP.

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Speaker 2: The team still revolves around Jason Tatum. It's rare to

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Speaker 2: have a championship team when your two best players play

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Speaker 2: the same position. It doesn't happen Normally. You have your

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Speaker 2: guard and your big man.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you have the guard and.

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Speaker 2: A small forward, but you don't have two threes there

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Speaker 2: to all forwards. But Boston was able to do it

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Speaker 2: and go back a couple of years when they weren't

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Speaker 2: winning the title. They were getting there, they weren't winning it. Oh,

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Speaker 2: you got to blow it up. You're gonna have to

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Speaker 2: get rid of Jalen Brown. What could you get for

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Speaker 2: Jalen Brown. But Jalen Brown played great. It feels like

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Speaker 2: he played above what people thought. Therefore he was more valuable.

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Speaker 2: Jason Tatum was wonderful last night. And if you look

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Speaker 2: at the numbers, I mean, those are impressive numbers. Those

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Speaker 2: are historical numbers when you're looking at the Boston Celtics.

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Speaker 2: But Jalen Brown the Finals MVP. Tatum at thirty one,

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Speaker 2: eleven and eight the first Celtic to have those numbers

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Speaker 2: in an NBA Finals game since Larry Bird in nineteen

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Speaker 2: eighty six, and he averaged twenty five, ten and six

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Speaker 2: for the postseason.

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Speaker 3: No, not yet.

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Speaker 2: Paul Pierce and Larry Bird are the only other players

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Speaker 2: who have done that for the Celtics.

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Speaker 4: Who day Stannaaday, This is the Stanle of the day.

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Speaker 2: I was waiting for something with the MAVs last night,

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Speaker 2: and I think that they basically gave you everything they

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Speaker 2: had in Game four. Boston's the better team, deeper team,

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Speaker 2: and really, if you look at how it's constructed, you

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Speaker 2: have to go back with some moves that were made.

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Speaker 2: And the most valuable player for the Celtics might have

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Speaker 2: been Dame Lillard because Dame Lillard goes to the Bucks

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Speaker 2: the Bucks make Drew holiday expendable holiday fills in whatever

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Speaker 2: the gray area was for Boston this year, ye had

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Speaker 2: Al Horford in there. They picked up christ tops Porzingis.

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Speaker 2: You know Washington didn't want him. They had to pay

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Speaker 2: part of his salary to send him to Boston. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there's so many things that happened. Derek White, Derek White

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Speaker 2: trade with San Antonio. There's a Division two player. You

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Speaker 2: pick him up and you're.

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Speaker 3: Like that guy.

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Speaker 2: This guy's pretty good. That guy may plays hard. So

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Speaker 2: you have to have those players. It's just like Denver

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Speaker 2: last year. I can have Joker and Jamal, I gotta

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Speaker 2: have the other players. You can't win a championship with

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Speaker 2: just two players, two stars. You must have those guys

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Speaker 2: who are B players or C plus players. What do

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Speaker 2: you need me to do, I'll do it. How long

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Speaker 2: do you need me to do it. I'll be in there,

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Speaker 2: I'll hustle. And that's what Boston had this year. It

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Speaker 2: just it worked. And I know that we want to

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Speaker 2: label was this a dynasty? I think they had the

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Speaker 2: chance to be a dynasty the last five years, six years.

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Speaker 2: Winning a title doesn't mean you're going to be a dynasty.

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Speaker 2: I think we thought Milwaukee could be a dynasty. I

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Speaker 2: think we thought Denver could be a dynasty. Man, it's

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Speaker 2: tough and it's going to be tough for Boston. Again,

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Speaker 2: you can't get greedy, but we do get greedy as

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Speaker 2: fans because you got to go back to eight, the

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Speaker 2: last time they won a title, and that's a long

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Speaker 2: time ago. But they've had their opportunities and it's almost

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Speaker 2: like they had like the Buffalo Bills, like they had

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Speaker 2: their opportunity, their window, and then they didn't capitalize on it.

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Speaker 2: Now with Boston, are they going to be a dynasty?

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Speaker 2: Wether two players are young, their two stars are young,

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Speaker 2: and because of that, you know, you give them a chance,

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Speaker 2: they're going to be the favorite. You know coming up

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Speaker 2: next year DraftKings already has them as the favorites. Then

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Speaker 2: it's Denver, the Thunder, Timberwolves, Bucks in the maps. So

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Speaker 2: let's just look at the East. The only other competition

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Speaker 2: right now is the Bucks. Now you're almost guaranteed you're

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Speaker 2: going to be in the Eastern Conference finals again if

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Speaker 2: you just play relatively you know, consistent basketball. But for

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Speaker 2: Jason Tatum and we were wondering who benefited the most

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Speaker 2: from winning a title. Well, certainly this guy, Jason Tatum.

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Speaker 5: It's a real feeling. I still hasn't really kicked in yet,

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Speaker 5: just trying, and I guess enjoyed a moment. I kept saying, Wow,

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Speaker 5: these last seven here's been a roller coaster up and down.

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Speaker 5: I had to listen on it about me and tonight

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Speaker 5: it was worth it.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, good for him, Good for him, Yes,

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Speaker 2: he did have to hear it. You get a max contract,

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Speaker 2: you're the best player on your team. We keep waiting

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Speaker 2: for you to win a title. First Team All NBA. Yes,

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Speaker 2: that goes along with the territory here. Now you're okay. Now,

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Speaker 2: Jason Chatum's on scholarship for a little while, Jalen Brown

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Speaker 2: on scholarship, The Celtics on scholarship. Here, Brad Stevens take

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Speaker 2: a victory lap. And you did a wonderful job.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: You go from coaching, go into the front office, and

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Speaker 2: you brought in in a sneaky way, Jeff Van Gundy

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Speaker 2: to help Joe Missoula as the head coach. Now Van

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Speaker 2: Gundy's going to go to the Clippers to be their

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Speaker 2: top assistant. I think he gets a ring for being

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Speaker 2: a consultant slash coach for the Celtics. I hope he does.

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Speaker 2: And now he's going to go to the Clippers. The

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Speaker 2: Celtics gave him a lifeline because ESPN fired him and

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden he had to go back into coaching.

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Speaker 2: And now he's back in coaching and he'll go with

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Speaker 2: ty Loo and be the first assistant for the Clippers.

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Speaker 2: There a lot of people Joe Mizzoula benefited. We talked

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Speaker 2: about this when the playoffs started. If they don't win,

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Speaker 2: they may make a change with their head coach. It's

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Speaker 2: like when Mike Budenholzer won a title with the Bucks,

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Speaker 2: he was going to get fired and eventually got fired,

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Speaker 2: But Joe Missoula was on the hot seat and he

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Speaker 2: was going to get the blame. He was going to

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Speaker 2: be the fall guy. It felt like Jalen Brown, your MVP,

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Speaker 2: talking about his teammate Jason Tatum.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: We just take it one game at a time. You know,

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Speaker 7: we started this journey together. We both drafted here and

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Speaker 7: we both you know, have mate boss in our home.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 7: We just love getting after it, loved growing, love getting better,

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Speaker 7: tasting greatness. So I can't say enough about Jason Tatum, Man,

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Speaker 7: it sacrificed this year. His ability to just be selfless,

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Speaker 7: you know, really really showed in the finals, really showed

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Speaker 7: all playoffs. And I'm grateful, man, But I couldn't do

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Speaker 7: it without any of my teammates and JT How's my

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Speaker 7: brother for life?

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Speaker 2: Yes, but it was a total team effort. If I said,

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Speaker 2: you know that Derek White and Drew Holliday, would they

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Speaker 2: have twenty rebounds?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Combined. See your guards are getting twenty rebounds. And if

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Speaker 2: you watched the game last night, I kept saying, where's

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Speaker 2: Dallas's big men? Can you guys get some rebounds? Can

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Speaker 2: you keep some offensive rebounds? Can you keep it alive?

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Speaker 2: How about defensive rebounds? Boston is a better team. But

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I can go boy lack of

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Speaker 2: effort on Dallas's part. I just think when you're third

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Speaker 2: best players PJ. Washington, you know you got to strengthen

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Speaker 2: the roster here. I don't know if Dallas is going

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Speaker 2: to get back. I think we saw some great things

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Speaker 2: from them. I think they would consider this a good season,

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Speaker 2: maybe great season that they got to the finals. But

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Speaker 2: if I'm looking at the West, you know this next season,

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Speaker 2: you're not gonna get back, I think playing that kind

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Speaker 2: of basketball because Denver got it just so that it

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Speaker 2: matched up. Minnesota was geared to beat Denver, but Minnesota

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Speaker 2: wasn't geared to beat Dallas. So you you know, matchups

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Speaker 2: are everything, you know. Meanwhile, Boston was geared up to

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Speaker 2: beat anybody. I kept thinking last night if Denver was

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Speaker 2: in the finals, it'd be a whole lot more entertaining.

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Speaker 9: Watching this fire. That's I missed the Denver Nuggets so

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Speaker 9: much this series.

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Speaker 3: Never more so than last night when I'm going.

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Speaker 9: Like, I wanted to apologize that I've been taking you

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Speaker 9: guys for granted. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I was wrong.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Joker's not around, he's not even in the

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Speaker 2: United States. Probably we get at Jamal Murray highlights something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, can we do something here?

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Speaker 6: All right?

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Speaker 3: What's poll question we're gonna go with.

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Speaker 9: You know, I don't know that the Mavericks made many

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Speaker 9: adjustments either. I don't know that if Jason Kidd had

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Speaker 9: a great series or not, but they seem to stick

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Speaker 9: to this one game plan.

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Speaker 3: How many adjustments can you make?

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Speaker 9: There has to be something more you can do than

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Speaker 9: like either all right, Kyrie, one of you, two guys

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Speaker 9: bring the ball up, will set a high screen for you,

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Speaker 9: do your best to get a shot off. There has

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Speaker 9: to be more of a game play. Everybody else stands

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Speaker 9: clear out. But they did what they did to get here.

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Speaker 9: And now you're saying, hey, you got to adjust. I

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Speaker 9: don't think they had. I mean it was checkers and

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Speaker 9: chess here. There's gotta be something else you can do

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Speaker 9: other than well, we don't have the lob right now, Kyrie.

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Speaker 3: Just do you figure something out, Luca.

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Speaker 9: You just if Kyrie's not going to do it, then

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Speaker 9: you do it. There's got to be saying and if

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Speaker 9: you're like right like you said with the big man, like, hey,

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Speaker 9: could somebody just get a rebound? Just get one rebound?

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Speaker 9: Just one we'll score. But you guys just help us

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Speaker 9: out on the boards.

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Speaker 3: Please. What's the poll question we're going to go with

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Speaker 3: first out?

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Speaker 9: I think we're going to go with this is a

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Speaker 9: bit of a bigger topic. But who will this title

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Speaker 9: the most for it?

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Speaker 3: Okay? Okay.

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Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, we just heard from Mike Breen

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Speaker 2: who was on the call. Brinievil jonas coming up in

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Speaker 2: We's got two NBA titles and he's got two NCAA titles.

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Speaker 3: Is that right, Mark, He's got one NBA title.

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Speaker 9: Oh, that was the one. That was the one last night.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Drew Holliday, that's his second second, right, he went

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Speaker 10: And Jason Tatum did a clean up on Aisle five.

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Speaker 2: Now you're one of the great Celtics of all time.

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Speaker 2: Gotta win titles. Gotta win titles, at least a title

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Speaker 11: on year seven of Tatum and Brown. Told you they're

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Speaker 9: They definitely were at the you guys better do this quick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my bad.

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Speaker 2: He was talking about Tatum and Brown is former teammates

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Speaker 2: I mentioned it's rare to have a championship team when

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Speaker 2: they gotta they gotta break those two up. To man,

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Speaker 11: What I love about the Celtics title is that there's

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Speaker 11: Jalen Brown and Jayson Tatum were a part of the

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Speaker 3: Oh. And I remember coming in that mill.

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Speaker 9: I'm not even a Sixer fan.

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Speaker 10: Folts, the Sixers, Lonzo Ball. This is the twenty seventeen draft.

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Speaker 2: you know, we're going to base your success or lack

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Speaker 2: thereof on what happened with other players in the draft.

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Speaker 3: I mean we did that with Ryan Leaf and Peyton Manning.

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Speaker 3: We still do that. It's like, yeah, you could have

435
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Speaker 3: you could have added Peyton Manning.

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Speaker 9: Could add Justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, yes, Paulie, I've got all the draft grades.

438
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Speaker 10: The day after the twenty seventeen draft, and people loved

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Speaker 10: markel Foltz to the sixers, you know, they thought it

440
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Speaker 10: paired so well with Embiid and Ben Simmons. There's the

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Speaker 10: Tatum reviews are not great. They say he's a good

442
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Speaker 10: all around player, but is he great at anything? There's

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Speaker 10: it's mild reviews.

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Speaker 9: And Donovan Mitchell in that draft.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but you know, the executive said, you know

446
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Speaker 2: sometimes when you play with coach k you know, it's

447
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Speaker 2: like Dean Smith that you become better when you leave

448
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Speaker 2: the system. And I said, yeah, but Duke players, it's

449
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Speaker 2: not a great list of great players in the NBA.

450
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Speaker 2: It's like they're they're better when they're at Duke than

451
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Speaker 2: when they leave. But this executive is like, trust me,

452
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Speaker 2: Tatum is a great going to be a great player.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. See this's funny.

454
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Speaker 9: Josh Hart in that same draft, But so is Derek White.

455
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Speaker 9: They actually got where it was Derek White, Colorado? Yeah,

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Speaker 9: is that where he's from.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember him at all, even with the Spurs,

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Speaker 2: you know, because you're like, I got to go out

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Speaker 2: of my way to watch the Spurs. I just remember

461
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Speaker 2: when they the Celtics got Derek White, and I'm like, okay,

462
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Speaker 2: and all of.

463
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Speaker 3: A sudden, you watch him, you go, all right, got

464
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Speaker 3: a little spunk there.

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Speaker 2: Not afraid, I mean he's not Marcus Smatt, Marcus Smatt,

466
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Speaker 2: Marcus Smartt. A couple of phone calls here, How about

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Speaker 2: Paul and Iowa leads us off. Good morning, Paul. How

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Speaker 2: are you today?

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Speaker 3: Bud?

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Speaker 6: Hey?

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Speaker 14: Dan?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 15: What fact?

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Speaker 14: First?

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Speaker 16: The last time is so just won a championship. Al

476
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Speaker 16: Horford finished his rookie year in the NBA and Joe

477
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Speaker 16: Mizula was a sophomore at West Virginia. M My main

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Speaker 16: point today, Happy late Father's day question for all the

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Speaker 16: fathers in the room. My favorite NBA team just won

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Speaker 16: a title, and my wife is eight months pregnant. We're

481
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Speaker 16: not set on a name yet, and there's a star

482
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Speaker 16: on this team that has a really good first name

483
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Speaker 16: for a girl has anyone tried to convince their wife

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Speaker 16: to name a child after a sports player.

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Speaker 3: Wait, what name are you looking at?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 16: It's not porzingis Dan?

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Speaker 3: Okay? Well, Chris tops Oh you're gonna go Tatum, aren't you? Paul?

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Speaker 16: Tatum is a beautiful little girl's name, and I love it.

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Speaker 3: Tatum O'Neil, great actress. Sure, I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 16: Well, Okay, have any of you guys tried it? Did

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Speaker 16: that pass the wife?

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Speaker 3: No? I didn't. Uh, Pauli's daughter is did?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but did your wife say you can name her

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Speaker 2: after Walter pag.

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Speaker 10: I never considered naming my first child, my daughter after

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Speaker 10: an athlete. My wife walked into the room a month

498
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Speaker 10: before birth, saw one of my many Walter Payton posters

499
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Speaker 10: on my office because it's a maniac, and she goes,

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Speaker 10: what about Peyton for a girl's name? And I turned,

501
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Speaker 10: I go, don't kid me. She goes, I'm not kidding,

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Speaker 10: And that was the entire conversation.

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Speaker 3: It was her call, Okay, Fritz, of your son's name? Jordan?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we went with Jordan Drew. Although if Ryan might

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Speaker 8: have been something for Nolan Ryan, I don't think Elway

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Speaker 8: would have passed the Goalie might have been a little

507
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Speaker 8: odd for a middle name, but Ryan, I thought it

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Speaker 8: would have been nice.

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Speaker 3: What was Jordan after Jordan?

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Speaker 8: No, we just liked that name and it just happened

511
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Speaker 8: to be the greatest basketball player ever.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I didn't then name my son after my dad, and

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Speaker 2: then family names with my daughters. So no, although somebody

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Speaker 2: said I named my daughter Grace and they goes that

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Speaker 2: after Mark Grace and I go no, yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, no.

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Speaker 2: Spent a lot of time in Chicago with the Cubs,

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Speaker 2: but no, yeah, no Mark Grace. Uh dog in North Carolina. Hi, Doug,

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Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 6: Well, Ben, I am so excited to talk to you.

522
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Speaker 6: I've been waiting to share this with you for a week.

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Speaker 6: I've been waiting for a day when both you and

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Speaker 6: Seaton were there. I have this bizarre talent where I

525
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Speaker 6: can look at a stranger and quickly figure out what

526
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Speaker 6: famous person we most resemble. A year ago, I sent

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Speaker 6: in a picture of the drummer for r EM because

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Speaker 6: he's Todd's identical Flynn. I have now found seat and

529
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Speaker 6: celebrity look alike. I sent in two pictures to the back.

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Speaker 6: You're going to think this is crazy, but when you

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Speaker 6: see it, you'll see that. I'm right, Ben Woke of

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Speaker 6: the La Times and Seat and O'Connor are separated at birth. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: see him side by side.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's Rando but uh yeah we can do that.

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Speaker 2: Put him side by side. Uh woiky covers the Lakers.

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Speaker 9: Let's see what he's going for there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're more James Corden. I mean definitely, you know,

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Speaker 2: like a enter James Corden.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you are, same attitude though, oh just kidding.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, j jk yeah, yeah, you don't like the comparison

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Speaker 2: to James Cordon because.

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Speaker 9: I've every comparison is almost ninety nine point nine percent

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Speaker 9: of the time they're terrible. So yeah, but don't you

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Speaker 9: think you look like James Cordon? I definitely see what Okay, okay, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 9: I see why people say that quite a bit.

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Speaker 3: Andrew and Washington, I Andrew, what's on your mind to think?

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Speaker 14: Good morning, Dan, Dannet, thanks for taking my call. You

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Speaker 14: got touched on this earlier. The MVP of the Celtics,

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Speaker 14: and I think the MVP of the Celtics is Brad

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Speaker 14: Stevens coming in. That's young head coach from uh Butler

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Speaker 14: and coaching Jalen Brown and Jason Catuman going into the

553
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Speaker 14: front office and making moves to get rid of Marcus

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Speaker 14: Smart and bring in Derek White's and bring back Al Horford's.

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Speaker 14: I think he's a real MVP. And by the way,

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Speaker 14: this is kind of a full circle moment. The last

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Speaker 14: time there was this young of a head coach win

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Speaker 14: a championhip, Jill Mizula's thirty five years old was a

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Speaker 14: thirty five year old Bill Russell in nineteen sixty nine

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Speaker 14: for the Celtics. So I think that's a pretty good moment.

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Speaker 14: But I'm surprised that Marvin has not brought back his

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Speaker 14: favorite poll question for right now?

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Speaker 3: Whose career would.

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Speaker 14: You rather have?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 14: Al Horford or Reggie Miller?

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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, Andrew. No one's asking this question today?

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Speaker 2: Whose career would you rather have? Marvin? Al Horford? He's

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Speaker 2: won two titles in college, he won a title last night.

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Speaker 2: He's been around for what fourteen years? Fifteen years? Whose career?

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Speaker 11: I'm gonna go with Reggie because Reggie's had iconic moments?

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Speaker 3: Okay, but he didn't win a title.

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Speaker 6: He did.

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Speaker 2: What if I took away the Knicks series.

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Speaker 3: What if I just took that away?

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Speaker 2: He still got the Bulls. Yeah, but did he didn't

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Speaker 2: do well? He did well against the Knicks Bulls. He

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Speaker 2: lost to Mike, Yeah, but he took them the seven games. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'll take that. I think i'd take Al Horford's career

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Speaker 2: with that. Wait if I, oh, well, curse, so, I

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Speaker 2: don't know. I was still, you know, cashing in there, Todd,

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Speaker 2: what about you?

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Speaker 3: I think I would go Reggie.

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Speaker 8: And I know, if you're just in sport.

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Speaker 2: He's got a gold medal too. Whatever value you put

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Speaker 2: on that.

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Speaker 3: I know, if you say the name Reggie, may think

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Speaker 3: Reggie Jackson.

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Speaker 8: But as far as greatest sports figures, when you say Reggie,

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Speaker 8: especially if you know, if you're having a basketball conversation,

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Speaker 8: you immediately think Reggie Miller. That's what rings true to me.

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Speaker 6: And if you.

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Speaker 3: Say rings true but no, ring, no Rag.

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Speaker 9: Did you say what about Al or what about Horford?

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Speaker 8: There's a big difference between saying Reggie among the greats

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Speaker 8: of the.

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Speaker 2: Sport ced O'Connor, Al Horford or Reggie Miller.

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Speaker 9: I'm just checking career earnings.

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Speaker 3: All supper factoring Al Al's gotten paid.

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Speaker 9: Al sitting on a solid two seventy six. Oh my gosh, sorry,

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Speaker 9: I'm sorry, I'm taking.

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Speaker 3: Out What did Reggie make in his career?

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Speaker 9: I got Reggie just under one hundred million, right around

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Speaker 9: on hundred.

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Speaker 3: Oh you got to take Al Horford.

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Speaker 9: That's pretty good money.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not done yet. He might get to three

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Speaker 2: hundred million dollars, that's all said and done.

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Speaker 3: Cheers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Paul.

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Speaker 10: Reggie's got a gold medal and on the seventy fifth

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Speaker 10: anniversary team, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: And you know what the thing about Al is too,

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Speaker 9: It's not like he was like a guy at the

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Speaker 9: end of the bench this year and it's just collecting

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Speaker 9: the ring like he contributed it in big way. He

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Speaker 9: hit some massive shots in the finals.

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Speaker 3: He could. Yeah, he was guarding Luca. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's still an integral part of that team there.

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Speaker 2: He had moments that you were like, hell yeah Al Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Chris and Syracuse, So I Chris, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 16: Hey?

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Speaker 17: Thank you?

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Speaker 14: Dan.

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Speaker 17: Hey, I'd like to comment on the poll and just

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Speaker 17: a comment on Sunday's golfb Yeah, I'm going with Brad

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Speaker 17: Steven as well. As you pointed out in the open,

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Speaker 17: it's the moves he made were great, but the one

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Speaker 17: big move that people were clamoring for it breakup Brown

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Speaker 17: and Tatum. He didn't do, and his value had a skyrocket.

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Speaker 17: And I wonder he's young. I wonder if down the road,

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Speaker 17: if you want to or if he's even feasible, if

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Speaker 17: you think that he might be a coach and GM

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Speaker 17: or at least help out with the GM. And on

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Speaker 17: the golf Sunday, you know Rory missing those pots. God,

636
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Speaker 17: it brought me back the years years years ago. Seahawks

637
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Speaker 17: are playing the Vikings. It was ten to nine, last

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Speaker 17: play of the game. Blair walf signs up for lines

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Speaker 17: up for a twenty six yard field goal something like that,

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Speaker 17: and he misses it. And Chris Collinsworth gave a great pause.

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Speaker 17: He was on NBC Sports doing the game, and all

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Speaker 17: he said was there is no way to practice a

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Speaker 17: four foot pot to win the Masters, And boy, he's.

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Speaker 3: Right, thank you, Chris.

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Speaker 2: And Rory did release his statement and he's not going

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Speaker 2: to be playing in the Travelers. That's in Hartford and

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Speaker 2: there's a big billboard on the highway that it's Rory

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Speaker 2: is going to be playing. And then Rory decided that

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Speaker 2: he's going to take some time off here. There's only

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Speaker 2: one Rory, yes, and he will not be playing in

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Speaker 2: the Travelers Home.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 2: But we'll have that statement that he had. And you know,

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Speaker 2: there was some mixed reaction to my comments that I

655
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Speaker 2: thought he should have done an interview with NBC, maybe

656
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Speaker 2: two or three questions. Maybe you let the tournament know

657
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Speaker 2: US Open. No, Look, I just I can't do it.

658
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: I can't go in there and torture myself. But you

659
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Speaker 2: do something, You get in your car and you fly home.

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Speaker 2: I thought that he owed that to the US Open.

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Speaker 2: You know, they paid you over two million dollars runner up. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it is painful. And I've always said he's one of

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Speaker 2: my favorite interviews because he makes himself available and he

664
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Speaker 2: does think about the questions that you're asking him. I

665
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Speaker 2: just wish he would have led us in a little

666
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Speaker 2: bit there, just to understand it, instead of the reaction that,

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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, you know what, you just bolts out

668
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Speaker 2: of there. You don't say congratulations to you know, Bryce,

669
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Speaker 2: and to shamble all of those things that were said

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Speaker 2: yesterday by people playing on Sunday. But I'll have that

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Speaker 2: statement for you coming up. We'll take a break. We

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Speaker 2: got our Play the day up now.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

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Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 10: Wapp Oh my God.

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Speaker 3: Play of the Day. This is the play of the day.

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Speaker 14: Shuck this out.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna miss it. Rebound Celtics half a Horford outlet.

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Speaker 1: It's Pretcher it again, Prescher half court. It's in the air.

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Speaker 15: He did it again, Peyton Pretchard get it again. With

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Speaker 15: the world watching, he knocks down at half court three.

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Speaker 15: That will send the Boston Celtics.

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Speaker 1: Into the locker room.

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Speaker 3: We're a twenty one point lead.

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Speaker 2: That's courtesy of the Sports Hub Celtics radio network. We

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Speaker 2: found Peyton Pritchard's range. It's forty eight feet. Now, if

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Speaker 2: you can set up some plays there and just let

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Speaker 2: him shoot from forty eight feet. I think he only

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Speaker 2: made three baskets three threes in the series, but there

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Speaker 2: were some big ones there. That's your Player of the Day,

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Speaker 2: the poll results if you can, Seaton, Yeah, we got

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Speaker 2: up there.

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Speaker 9: Who did last night's ring? Do more for Okay, Jason Tatum,

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Speaker 9: Jaylen Brown, Joe Missoula, Brad Stevens right now, Jason Tatum

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Speaker 9: running away with them? Yes, yes, absolutely running away.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but here's something now, you would think just one

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00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 2: championship he wasn't the Finals MVP. Odds to win the

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Speaker 2: MVP next season according to DraftKings Marvin Finals MVP No,

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Speaker 2: NBA regular season MVP, Anthony Edwards no, Paul.

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Speaker 9: Man Uh, Shay Gildess.

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Speaker 3: No, Todd, Jason Tatum, no.

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Speaker 2: Seaton, Nikola Jokic, yes, Joker, Joker and then Luca.

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Speaker 9: Way, you sold that. I thought it was a different person.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well a little bait and switched there.

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00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 2: Yeah forget Yeah, so Joker, Luca, Joel Embiid, Shay Gilgis,

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Speaker 2: Alexander Jannis, Anthony Edwards, Jason Tatum is not in the

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Speaker 2: top five for MVP coming up next season. Also odds

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Speaker 2: to win the title next season Marvin the Celtics. Yes,

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Speaker 2: overwhelming favorites to win the title next year.

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Speaker 3: Bias of course in last case. Okay, second best.

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Speaker 2: Odds, uh, okay, second best odds to win the title

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Speaker 2: next year.

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Speaker 3: Paul Denver nugget. No, oh what thunder? Thunder? And then

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Speaker 3: it's the Timberwolves and the Nuggets, then the Bucks, then

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Speaker 3: the MAVs. What yeah yeah, Paul.

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Speaker 10: Okay, I'm gonna throw this out there. If you ran

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Speaker 10: the Mavericks, would you consider trading Kyrie Irving now? Because

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Speaker 10: he still has value and you may see that this

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Speaker 10: team as is probably can't win it. I don't think

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Speaker 10: they can win it right, So then even more so,

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Speaker 10: I need see.

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Speaker 2: Tim Hardaway Junior is a scorer. He didn't play much

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Speaker 2: and I didn't I don't know if he was injured.

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Speaker 2: But they need that third guy, PJ. Washington and Lively,

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Speaker 2: I mean Jones, like they have some players they just need.

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Speaker 2: They need a little bit more offensive boost there. I

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Speaker 2: just can't be dependent on Luca just pounding the ball constantly,

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Speaker 2: Kyrie waiting to react to whatever Luca's doing, and then

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Speaker 2: you don't have anybody.

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Speaker 3: But what am I getting for Kyrie?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 2: I could trade him to the Lakers and then I

739
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 2: could get you know, a few first round draft picks,

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Speaker 2: you can get younger. I just I think Kyrie was

741
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 2: really good for Luca this year. I thought it worked.

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00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 2: Here's Luca talking about playing with Kyrie.

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Speaker 9: I saw you and Kyrie had a moment of embrace

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Speaker 9: there at the end of the game.

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Speaker 3: Just interested.

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Speaker 9: What can you share about the conversation that you guys had.

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Speaker 18: Just stay together? Man, I think just having Kyle on

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00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 18: my team, I mean, on our team is unbelovo you know,

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Speaker 18: just helping. You know, we said we'll fight together next

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Speaker 18: season and we're just gonna believe.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of things at play with

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Speaker 2: the MAVs. Do you get that third guy? Is Luca

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Speaker 2: going to be different? You know, he said he needed

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Speaker 2: to play and have fun after he was pouting in

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Speaker 2: the previous game when he fouled out.

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Speaker 3: He needs get in shape. I think he needs to

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Speaker 3: be dedicated. Now.

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Speaker 2: He's obviously a great player, leads the league in scoring.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's a bucket, but he's got to be

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00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 2: a better all around player from the standpoint of at

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Speaker 2: the other end of the floor, because they went after

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Speaker 2: him and he's a real liability. You might get your

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Speaker 2: thirty three, but if you're giving up twenty or more

765
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Speaker 2: than that, you know you need to have more of

766
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Speaker 2: a separation between your best player their best player, or

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00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 2: I score this. You gotta be a little bit more

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Speaker 2: mobile there. Kyrie, you know we're getting into a tricky

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Speaker 2: area there with him, with his age, with what you're

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Speaker 2: asking him to do. He didn't play well in the finals. Now,

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00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: Boston had defenders. They have a variety of sizes, and

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Speaker 2: that pros problems for both Kyrie and Luca.

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Speaker 3: Not everybody has that.

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Speaker 2: Can they get through the regular season, yes, but it's

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Speaker 2: the postseason.

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Speaker 3: How you match up these teams? And are they better

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Speaker 3: than Denver?

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Speaker 7: Not?

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Speaker 3: In my opinion? Are they better than Minnesota? Right now?

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00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 3: They are?

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Speaker 2: But if I give Minnesota, you know what they learned

782
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: this year going into next season, you know it might

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00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 2: be a lot more even and I might even lean

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Speaker 2: towards Minnesota. Yeah, you get the.

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Speaker 9: Sense from listening to Kyrie talk, or at least reading

786
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 9: into what he says, that he could see the windows closing. Yes,

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00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 9: he doesn't know how many times he's going to get

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00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 9: back to the finals. Yeah, I wonder how that impacts

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Speaker 9: whatever future decisions he makes.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if it's what he makes or

791
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 2: what Dallas makes, but it feels like I thought he

792
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 2: and Luca did a good job. Luca's tough to play

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Speaker 2: with because it's ball dominant, like James Harden. There's certain

794
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: players where you're like, uh, what am I supposed to

795
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 2: do here?

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Speaker 15: Uh?

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Speaker 2: You got the ball for eighteen seconds, then all of

798
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 2: a sudden somebody double teams you, and then I got

799
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: to get a shot off or you know that that happens.

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00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 2: Sometimes you have to be reactionary where they're constantly banging

801
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Speaker 2: the pounding the ball.

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Speaker 11: Yes, Marv, did you ever run into players when they

803
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 11: or older and they said to themselves or they said

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Speaker 11: to you maybe I always thought it was going to

805
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 11: be this easy getting to the championship or the finals,

806
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 11: almost like Kyrie, because Kyrie got there so young. He's like,

807
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Speaker 11: I can go anywhere and be the guy.

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00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember somebody ever saying that they thought. I

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00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 2: mean Marino, I've talked to him about that. He doesn't

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00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: like talking about it, but I did say, man, you

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00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 2: got to the super Bowl, you know, did you think, well,

813
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 2: this is easier than I thought, and you know, Marino's

814
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 2: a tough guy, and he said, you know, I didn't

815
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Speaker 2: think that. You know, I look back now and I go, gosh,

816
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 2: I probably did think that at the time. Like I

817
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 2: got here in my second year, I'm going against Joe

818
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 2: Montana and then they didn't get close after that. I

819
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: think when you're in the moment, you're always thinking like,

820
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 2: I can do this again, We'll get back, yeah, and

821
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Speaker 2: then you don't. A lot of things have to go

822
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,240
Speaker 2: your way. You know, Joker may only win one title,

823
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 2: Luca may not get back to the NBA Finals. I mean,

824
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 2: it happens because the game is so quick with change

825
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 2: and players getting better, your team not getting any better,

826
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 2: losing players, jealousies, that factor in there. I mean, there's

827
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 2: a lot of things that go into it. It's just

828
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 2: difficult to put it all in the blunder and it

829
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 2: comes out tasting good. Mike Breen was on the call

830
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 2: for the NBA Finals. Brenie will join us coming up

831
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 2: here in about ten minutes. More of your phone calls

832
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: as well. Hockey tonight, the Oilers at the Panthers, Florida

833
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 2: trying to close out the Oilers in the Stanley Cup.

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Speaker 3: Final,