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Speaker 2: And I have watched all of these low brow comedians

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Speaker 3: You gonna sit the record straight?

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Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? You let Ricky Smiley sit here

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Speaker 4: You stole Friday after next, the one I was in.

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Speaker 4: And then he said some stuff that we hadn't heard

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Speaker 2: This man told you he had Kat Williams role. He

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Speaker 2: three quick points. You mean in Hollywood they cast a

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Speaker 2: He told you the story about when the movie came out.

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Speaker 2: He was just that bitter when we were shooting it.

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Speaker 2: He told everybody it should have been my role, everybody

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Speaker 3: He couldn't have played that role like you. I thought

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Speaker 2: Sure no one? Why no, he was with KD. He

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Speaker 2: I don't know why he would lose a child and

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Speaker 2: I don't know why liars lie. But I can tell

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Speaker 2: it First Sunday? Did he wear a dress in it?

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Speaker 5: So that's why because when we released that clip and

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Speaker 2: Because he's a liar. Nobody knows why liars lie. And

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Speaker 2: that's why I had to come on the program. Cedric

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Speaker 2: And it's a man unit. Then you asked it, why

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Speaker 2: are you not a movie star? I didn't want to

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Speaker 2: There are thirty thousand new scripts in Hollywood every year.

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Speaker 1: There ain't none.

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Speaker 2: You would have to have range. I played a lot

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Speaker 5: I don't know care. We might let you drink anymore

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Speaker 2: let these dudes lie. Cedric sitting here telling you why

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Speaker 2: wal Risch. You didn't say nothing. He can't even get

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Speaker 3: It's a situation.

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Speaker 1: We never wrote anything.

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Speaker 2: Remember when Sedric the Entertainer starts, he's supposed to be singing,

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Speaker 3: Or to be You don't think they have a good

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Speaker 2: The world doesn't think that, sir, I have twelve comed

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Speaker 3: It seems to me, Kat that you had a lot

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Speaker 2: No, no, you wanted to say the Rector sty winners

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Speaker 5: So let me ask you this, what are your relationship

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Speaker 2: They for thirty years. They're a group. These aren't three

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Speaker 2: I got five sons. Why would we tell these ridiculous

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Speaker 2: Do you? Did you play against the team? Yes, I've

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Speaker 2: taken forty six comedians with me on the road. Forty six. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm not the comedian. You can give that to. I

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Speaker 2: There's nobody like me in the business. Faison said that

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Speaker 2: getting a Netflix special is easy. I have twelve specials.

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Speaker 2: Guess how many Faison got zero? Why is he allowed

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Speaker 2: As a journalist, that's all. That's all I'm saying. I

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Speaker 2: Because because because in thirty years I've done nothing but

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Speaker 2: Make me the villain, not the guy that raises black

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Speaker 2: Cedric and Kevin Hart and Tiffany hadih came through there

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Speaker 2: And I hate to seem like a petty individual for

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Speaker 3: Are you not afraid about being blackballed? Again? These are

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Speaker 2: Do you mean again, these people are not powerful. Satan

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Speaker 2: Why do you think Gary Owen can't cross over? And

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Speaker 2: it's a consortium. They rock with who they rock with,

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Speaker 2: I told him, no, what y'all do? And this is

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Speaker 2: I can't do that. Because Steve told you that he

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Speaker 2: The only problem is where he stopped stand up. He

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Speaker 2: What you called ocean eleven to get that Nigga's part?

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Speaker 5: Have you ever been on tour with any of these guys?

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Speaker 2: Every guy I mentioned to you is not funny out

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Speaker 3: Crazy about how good you look. What.

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Speaker 2: No, no, there's too many comics out there that are

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Speaker 3: To protect them real quick.

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Speaker 2: Because you had said for the Kings of Comedy, it

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Speaker 2: Right my, I'm on BET's Comic View and they're using

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Speaker 2: was getting a standing ovation on it. He had me

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00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 2: go back in the lab and helped me craft it

437
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 2: to be an even more powerful joke. So this is

438
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 2: not just a random joke. This is my very best joke,

439
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 2: and it's my last joke, and it's my closing joke. Okay,

440
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety eight, I'm doing this joke. It's on Comic View.

441
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 2: Cedric comes to the comedy store, He watches me in

442
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 2: the audience, He comes backstage, he tells me what a

443
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 2: great job I did and how much he loves the joke.

444
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 2: Two years later, he's doing that as his last joke

445
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 2: on the Kings of Comedy, and he's doing it verbatim.

446
00:24:55,320 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 2: He's just changed my car into a spaceship. Him and

447
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 2: Steve had already apologized for me. So I gave him

448
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 2: a pass for a decade. Why would you sit here

449
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 2: and be like I talked to I saw cat thirty times.

450
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 2: The cat didn't do as I stand before you, Shannon,

451
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 2: I would a bust Cedric's stomach. There was nothing that

452
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 2: would have kept me from one of these in that

453
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 2: patch right there, Like, are you kidding me? Why would

454
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 2: you downplay me like that? Why did I give you

455
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 2: a pass if you were just gonna lie? And so

456
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying, Like they're all a group, Cedric, Steve, Ricky,

457
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 2: They've been a group. Everybody knows that they've been aligned,

458
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 2: and there are these alliances in comedy, and if you

459
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 2: stand against them, then they sometimes have a problem. But

460
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 2: we don't let that change the content, because that's all

461
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 2: you know me for is that I'm quite likely to

462
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 2: tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

463
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: So help me God.

464
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 2: Like all my enemies all look the same in the eyes,

465
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 2: whether it's faise On Wanda Aria Spears, they all look.

466
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 3: Like And what you got to get sight? You think.

467
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 2: I don't rumor that Sir Wander Sights and Wanda Smith

468
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 2: are two separate people. I had only one name, Sir.

469
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 3: Wonder Sights amazing.

470
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 2: I love Wanda and I agree, I.

471
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 3: Love wad That's my girl.

472
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 5: But I remember on the radio, you went on a

473
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 5: radio interview, if I'm not mistake, that's in Atlanta, right,

474
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 5: and you came on there with seemingly good intention and

475
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 5: she attacked you.

476
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 1: It wasn't just that part.

477
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 2: It was the fact that before I go in there,

478
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 2: she has a conversation about Okay, now, I just want

479
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 2: to talk to you because you just wanted Emmy for

480
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 2: the city of Atlanta, and this isn't Atlanta, and they

481
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 2: just want to hear about the Emmy and hear from you,

482
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 2: and to thank you for what you did putting the

483
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 2: city on. And we won't talk talk about your kids,

484
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 2: we won't talk about jail, no cases, we ain't gonna

485
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 2: talk about none of that. And immediately gets in there

486
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 2: and goes the opposite way. You can't flip up on

487
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 2: me because you're an inferior comedian. I'm going to destroy you,

488
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 2: and I'm never gonna call you out of your name.

489
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 2: I'm never gonna say anything disrespectful the people that look

490
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 2: like you. It's a very thin line. I got a call,

491
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 2: but this lady is trying to embarrass me in front

492
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 2: of a largely homosexual fan base. That's why she got canceled.

493
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 2: Gay people don't take it kindly that you would as

494
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 2: a derogatory call me gay. Gay people don't feel like

495
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 2: it's derogatory. So why are you trying to shame me

496
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: with something in the community I don't even belong in.

497
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: There's no gay people saying I belong over there or

498
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 2: been over there. But I have no hatred of over there.

499
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 2: And how dare you.

500
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 3: You did though, Hey, you did a numb on that's legendary.

501
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 2: No believe in carma or you don't, because I didn't

502
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 2: even know any of the stuff that she had done

503
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 2: to my fellow comedians until afterwards. I just know she

504
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 2: that it was a setup. Right, And remember they they

505
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 2: tried to kill me this same weekend, not in jokes,

506
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: with a real gun, in my real face, on real camera. Understand,

507
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 2: I'm losing my life for participating in something that goes

508
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 2: along with my job like this, two comedians, what do

509
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 2: you mean? And the world was okay with it because

510
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: it was me. Had that happened to anyone else, the

511
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 2: world went crazy when Will Smack smacked Chris.

512
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: This is a person pulling a.

513
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 2: Whole gun on a comedian in the confines of their job.

514
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: It's really a weird situation when they hate you that bad.

515
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you felt she hated you at that moment

516
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 5: because you mentioned that she said he was going to

517
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 5: be very professional. All you want to enmy congratulations, You

518
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 5: put the city on you own for the city, YadA, YadA, YadA.

519
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,719
Speaker 3: And now did she mention anything about the Emmy on camera?

520
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 2: I believe you saw the video and you know that

521
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: none of that took place. See that. The issue is

522
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 2: that all the comedians have to come do these radio

523
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 2: stations because you have to sell your tickets, and so

524
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 2: that means you have to go to the radio. Yes,

525
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 2: I don't go to the radio station, and I don't

526
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: make posts to sell tickets.

527
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: I just don't. So you've not seen me.

528
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 2: I haven't. I'm not here in some subservient positions where

529
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 2: somebody sent me over.

530
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 3: You hear out of the countis of your heart?

531
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 2: You are no, no, I'm saying, but in the interview, yes, yes,

532
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: situations yeah sure, yeah, and this person knew I wasn't

533
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 2: the for that or yeah.

534
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 5: But how hard because you have to understand she is

535
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 5: a female and so you have to be careful.

536
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 3: You have to handle her with kid gloves.

537
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 2: Sir, sir, you want to go ahead and take that out.

538
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 2: You don't want to be against equality, dude. What you

539
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 2: just said was very unequal, sir, But you think maybe

540
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 2: you've had enough.

541
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: For this.

542
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 2: Because I think I just heard you saying, but tell

543
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: you that women are not equal and should be treated unequally.

544
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: They want to be treated me as a comedian.

545
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 5: No, no, they want listen, you understand, and I understand

546
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 5: in certain situations they want to be treated equal not

547
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 5: all situations.

548
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 2: And and what part of what you saw her get

549
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 2: what part would have been different? If she was a man,

550
00:30:59,120 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 2: it would have just been more.

551
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 3: That's my point.

552
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 2: I took all the vicious and bent them a wigh

553
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 2: because I didn't have any. Plus, I understood, I'm not

554
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: trying to offend black women with short hair. I'm not

555
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: trying to offend heavyset women. I'm not trying to upset

556
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 2: fellow comedians. I'm not trying to do any of that,

557
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: and I can't. I am qualified to be able to

558
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: do none of that and still eviscerate you because I'm

559
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 2: smart enough to know that I need to say that

560
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 2: you have gnarled fingers, because I know your limited education

561
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: means you don't know what the word means, so you

562
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 2: can't possibly respond to it. You're not sure of the meaning.

563
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 2: And I'm going to continue hitting you because this is

564
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: what comedians do. You've been masquerating that you're a comedian too,

565
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: and that's the fallacy. Nobody in boxing fights out of

566
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,479
Speaker 2: their weight class. If you're a one hundred and thirty pounder,

567
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 2: you don't just show up with the one sixty pounders.

568
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: Stay in your weight class.

569
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 5: Is that what you wanted to do? That she was

570
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 5: out of her league when it came to because I.

571
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: Didn't want to do any of it.

572
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 3: I know you didn't want it to do it, but

573
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 3: what she took it there? Did you feel that you

574
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 3: had to go there? Oh?

575
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,959
Speaker 5: You could have say, Wanda, I didn't come here for that.

576
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 5: I just want to do the interview. I just want

577
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 5: to talk about what happened.

578
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: Oh, you misunderstand my job. My job is to be funny. Haha.

579
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: My job is to be funny first. My first job

580
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 2: is to be funny. My second job is to be respectful.

581
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 2: My third job is to be immaculate and gaza strip it. Uh,

582
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 2: that's non political. I'm saying. If you do it, you

583
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: let a terrorist accidentally touch over here, and I won't

584
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 2: stop burning you down until there ain't nothing left. It'll

585
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: literally be rubble on top of rubble and I'll still

586
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: be bombing. Why, Because that's why you should mind your business.

587
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: This is what f around and find out it's about.

588
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 3: Right now, I'm reading.

589
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 5: Cat Williams won Entertainers and How's a Bush? The Best

590
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 5: Los Angeles Comic Award? Did you win that?

591
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 2: Award?

592
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 3: Won? Cat Williams. It's a simple yes or no. It's

593
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 3: not a rhetorical question.

594
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 2: It's a question that probably should have been asked to entertainer.

595
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: I'm asking you, I got you here, though I know

596
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe Center didn't get asked that question. You

597
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: still a.

598
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 4: Dude's joking to give him a reward and then tell

599
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 4: him laying you don't know nothing about it.

600
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 2: Hey, but I promise you this, What if he sees

601
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: me again before he sees you, he'll be talking different

602
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 2: when you see it. That's for certain. That's the difference.

603
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: That's what these comics understand is that I'm not doing

604
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 2: nothing for Cloud. I don't even recognize Cloud. But eventually

605
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:04,959
Speaker 2: the Lord is gonna let me and you be in

606
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: one hallway.

607
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: A lot of these dudes go.

608
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: Kevin Harden went twenty five years without ever being in

609
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 2: the same building with me at the same time.

610
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: If I go in the building, he walk out.

611
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 2: You've never seen us in the same building ever in

612
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 2: twenty five years.

613
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: Like it's like that.

614
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 2: Why Why? Because I'm really the product. It's not what

615
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 2: you think. I am never under the influence of anything.

616
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 2: I'm always in my right mind. I'm always a physical specimen.

617
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 2: And when you see me, I'm much much bigger than

618
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 2: you had thought. I have far less play in me

619
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 2: than you would like. And I'm relentless. I'm out there.

620
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 2: I'm still to this day, I play eleven games of

621
00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 2: basketball with a twenty year old. The record is ninety

622
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 2: two and six. This is just in New York. Just

623
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:06,919
Speaker 2: to the rack.

624
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 3: Just because you work out, can yah? I mean no,

625
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 3: you work out.

626
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: Can't not to the gym.

627
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 3: You don't work out the gym. You push up sit ups.

628
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 2: My whole life it was, it was just push ups

629
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 2: and setups only. I would do like.

630
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: One hundred push ups a day.

631
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 3: Just I thought you was gonna say a thousand.

632
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: No, no, no, because this is literally every day. This

633
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 2: is not for the yeah, for the gram, you know

634
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 2: what I mean, like literally one hundred a day. And

635
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 2: I would do push ups and then I tore both

636
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 2: my rotator cuffs and so it was only thanks to

637
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: golf that I was even able to get mine. I've

638
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: been a golfer for quite some time. My shore game

639
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: is impeccable. I can't get you, but but too and

640
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: some change off of the tee, off the tee. But

641
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 2: I'm still I'm I'm still coming in for par guaranteed.

642
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 3: Are you playing for the tips?

643
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: No, I've found that you don't get anything for that.

644
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 2: It seems like this seems very ego monologal. They go, hey,

645
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 2: cat for free, you can go further back there. Why wait,

646
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 2: minut does it still counsel sing, Hey, I'm up at

647
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: the Ladies State, don't tell me my pronounce on the

648
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: golf course? She him?

649
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 4: Damn man, they whoever, whoever at the front.

650
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 5: Team We're I know, we're joking. We're having great conversation.

651
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 5: But you did win the award. How did the ward

652
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 5: help your career? It had to him some cat.

653
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 2: Nope, No, I didn't remember it happened to you just

654
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 2: said it set. How can Sedri give you an award

655
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 2: that would work something? Everything Sedric and Ricky Smiley ever

656
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: been in got canceled for not being funny. Ricky Sahir

657
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 2: told you that they cut him out of every movie

658
00:36:55,680 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: he did. They always had a reason. That's why I'm funny,

659
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 2: because I'm a happy person. I laugh all day long.

660
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: I can't even imagine the misery of these bumps. Just

661
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 2: to not be good at what you do, not work hard,

662
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 2: at what you do, but have to like you the

663
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: best at what you do. It is crazy, it's great.

664
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 3: But they be touring, they be doing like a hundred

665
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 3: shows a year.

666
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: That's me. I don't run into none of them. That's

667
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. If you a phase our love fan,

668
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 2: you mean you've been a fan of him for thirty

669
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: two years. You still waiting on him to do his

670
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: first special? You mean to tell me if Steve Harry

671
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 2: your favorite comedy, you mean you've been waiting for him

672
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 2: to do stand up for fifteen years now?

673
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 3: I mean, Steve got a lot of D d L

674
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 3: still out there.

675
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: None of those irons matter to stand up? Who cares

676
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: that they wrote a black card for you to do?

677
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 2: Family feud on like you're you're successful, because we're surprised

678
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 2: you can talk for a living, and it's entertaining that

679
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 2: you're gonna say some funny country things.

680
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: But not a writer, right, not a writer.

681
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 2: Now. I've had to turn down fifty million dollars four times,

682
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 2: four times just to protect my integrity and that virgin

683
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 2: hole I was telling you about it, right, because he

684
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: didny be wanting a party and you gotta tell him no,

685
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 2: you got to tell him, no, I did. I did. See.

686
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 2: I got the receipts for everything. I'm telling you. That's

687
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 2: why I'm here get your thank you because early on

688
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 2: you was accusing me.

689
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 3: Then I can't.

690
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 2: Man, it's crazy.

691
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 5: When you got in to stand up, was crossing over,

692
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 5: was doing TV? Was doing movie?

693
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 3: Was that?

694
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 5: Was that a part of it? You're like, okay, I'm gona,

695
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 5: I'm doing stand up. Okay, next next, the next progression is.

696
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 2: T movies throughout throughout the history of stand up, sir.

697
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: That's that's the goal for all of us.

698
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 2: That's how it goes. That's why when you hear these

699
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: dudes talking about, oh, I didn't want to be a

700
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 2: movie star, you just know it's disingenuous, like we talking

701
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 2: about dude. Yeah old, no, Now, I just wanted to

702
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 2: do a game.

703
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 3: Show, right, What.

704
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: You sure? Are you sure? Cause? I thought you did

705
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 2: Mark Curry's show over after he had just done Hanging

706
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: with mister Cooper. Why would you do all of that

707
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 2: man stuff that he did on his show on yours

708
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: and didn't do the dude stand up When you go

709
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: on the road.

710
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 4: And then you never put Mark Curry on your show

711
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 4: or nothing like if you don't say anything, these dudes

712
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 4: will run over you.

713
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know how bullies operate. If

714
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 2: you don't stand up for yourself, there really is nothing

715
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 2: they won't do.

716
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 3: Right.

717
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 5: You're a very generous man, cat you You were the

718
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 5: sole sponsor of Melburne Moore getting star in the Hollywood

719
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 5: Walk of Fame. You did all that on your own.

720
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 5: Why what do you have a personal relationship with Melbourne?

721
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 2: No? No, I understood that she was a black woman

722
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 2: in a time where it mattered what you look like,

723
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: and they had a certain thing that they needed you

724
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 2: to look like and act like in order to be successful.

725
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 2: And she just never did that. She wasn't tall enough,

726
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: she wasn't fine. They didn't like her look, they didn't

727
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 2: like that her hair was natural. They talked crazy about her,

728
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: and yet she still made all of these achievements. And

729
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, understand, I'm already in the Comedy Hall of Fame.

730
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 2: I'm already going to heaven no matter what happens, if

731
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 2: it ends in a second, I'm up there. So give

732
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 2: me the leadway to do some things that are simply

733
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 2: because it's the right thing to do. So the truth

734
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 2: of the matter, is they wanted to give me a star,

735
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 2: but please don't consider me. And this person been sitting

736
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 2: on this list this whole time, and just because they

737
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 2: ain't got enough money they can't get they just do.

738
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 2: That's crazy. When do you start? That's hurtful. What if

739
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,919
Speaker 2: somebody can't afford their flowers? You mean they don't get them? No, God,

740
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: Tom operate like that. He was sending a dummy like

741
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 2: me to come and take care of that, just so

742
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 2: that the right thing happens.

743
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: That's how the universe work.

744
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 2: Because remember, I don't what I'm spending my money on.

745
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: I'm not spending my money on strippers. I ain't spending

746
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 2: them on drugs. Like what? Because if I go on,

747
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 2: if I go in to strip club, I'm only trying

748
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 2: to get her out of there. I have no intention

749
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 2: of her or any other people being in this position.

750
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 2: If I see a girl I like, get the strip club.

751
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: I'm telling it. You know you don't have to strip

752
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 2: no more after this?

753
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 1: This could be your last day.

754
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 2: How about that? What would it be like just to

755
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 2: leave it all?

756
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: You ain't gotta be a don't no more.

757
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 5: I don't even want you to go get your first

758
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 5: leave it and we get a new I D, we

759
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 5: get a new ID in credit.

760
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 3: Social Security card.

761
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 2: We don't need none of that. This life don't look

762
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: good on you. You don't even look like a drug. Got

763
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 2: here these athletes talking about Yeah, we was out there tricking.

764
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: What why? You're part of the problem. You're part of

765
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 2: the problem. Stop paying people that you don't have no

766
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: respect for. It sets it up bad for us. We

767
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 2: got women out here can't find a man because they're

768
00:42:55,719 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 2: acting like him. You an outpa. Now, the our alphas

769
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: all want these subservient husbands.

770
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 3: You can't have one.

771
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 2: It ain't gonna happen. Sorry about that. Okay, go ahead, boy,

772
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 2: you done got me canceled? How many times in this program?

773
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: Where's the camera? I didn't write nothing, I said tonight.

774
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 2: It's all been on these Q cards and keep reading.

775
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 2: Ask your next questions?

776
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 3: Do you have them? Get out of financial situation?

777
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: I don't think we ever as a nation, can remember

778
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 2: a time that the Amigos were financially unsuccessful. So for

779
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 2: the record, I would assume that they've never needed Kat

780
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: William's financial assistance for anything. I'm sure that between QC,

781
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: the label, and other things, they were taken care of.

782
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 2: On the other hand, if I was given the opportunity

783
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 2: to help them what I of course I would. That's

784
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 2: what I do. I'm I'm a pro black, non racist,

785
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 2: Like I really really love black people, but I don't

786
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: love them more than other people. I love everybody. I

787
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 2: just I'm a black guy, and I try to stick

788
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 2: with that. But yeah, I'm not one of those pillow

789
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 2: talkers either, Like when I do something good, I'm really

790
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 2: not doing it for the ground it's it's not for

791
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: it's not for any of that. I'm just doing it

792
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 2: because it's good to do.

793
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 3: I appreciate that I read.

794
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 5: I don't know if this is true, but I did

795
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 5: read that comedians on your show say that women sometimes

796
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 5: would bring them money and not say where it came from.

797
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 5: Say that again, comedians would say women would bring them

798
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 5: money and not say where it came from.

799
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 2: Right. So, I'm not a feminist like a feminist would be.

800
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 2: But I do believe that there are no there that

801
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 2: in my camp, Like if I had thirty five people

802
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 2: in my camp, right, I believe that other than four jobs,

803
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: I believe that a woman is better at any of

804
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 2: them jobs than any man could be. So ten of

805
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 2: these jobs, no man can work because I'd rather a

806
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 2: female be there. If I got to smell anybody's breath,

807
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: I want it to be hers. I don't want none

808
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 2: of you, Krusty. So what I'm saying is, in a

809
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: staffing issue, I'm gonna have seventy five percent women just

810
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 2: because I prefer them. I don't prefer to hear two

811
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 2: guys talking in the corner. I prefer to hear two

812
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 2: ladies talking in the corner. I don't care what they're

813
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 2: talking about. I just prefer that. So a lot of

814
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 2: times I will utilize ladies to convey a message. If

815
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 2: a comedian is doing a great job somewhere in the country,

816
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 2: he just did a masterful set, and nobody's gonna pay him.

817
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,439
Speaker 2: They just clapping me, and I know he's broke as

818
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 2: shit back there. Wouldn't it be nice if somebody just

819
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 2: showed up and gave him a little blessing and he

820
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 2: didn't have to suck me off for it, and thanks kat,

821
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: this boy, I really needed it. Why would you do that?

822
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 2: If you was actually just trying to help people, you

823
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 2: would people know That's how I paid my ties. If

824
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 2: I got paid one hundred thousand dollars to be at

825
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 2: your city. I'm gonna take ten thousand of that and

826
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 2: put it in your homeless area now, because I got

827
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 2: to cause you gave me a hundred racks to come

828
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 2: to your little RinkyDink town. Who would I be to

829
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 2: not pay my times back to your town? That's how

830
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 2: I got in this position.

831
00:46:51,840 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 5: Wow, you adopted seven kids. Why, that's a lot of

832
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 5: kids for a man that's as busy as you are,

833
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 5: travels as much as you do on the road, as

834
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 5: much as you are, spend a lot of time because

835
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,479
Speaker 5: you have to spend a lot. I mean, it's not easy.

836
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 5: I mean maybe it comes just so comes so natural

837
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 5: to you to put pen the paper and to write

838
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 5: things down and be able to go out there and

839
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 5: perform a set.

840
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:20,720
Speaker 3: But that's a lot of responsibility.

841
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 2: Cat, right, right, But if there was a god, what

842
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 2: would he think about you if you did that? I'm saying,

843
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 2: let's just let's say, for example, okay, that God is real, yes, okay,

844
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 2: and let's say he'd be looking at what you do. Yes, Well,

845
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: what he say if you did that?

846
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 3: He said that?

847
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 5: Cat, that's that's a very that's a very kind gesture.

848
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 3: That's very jealous of you.

849
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 2: My whole life. Since I was telling you when I

850
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 2: was young and they was asking me what I wanted

851
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 2: to be, and nothing I wanted to be as I

852
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 2: wanted to be God's friend. That's a weird thing. If

853
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 2: you ate this, if you ate this, I didn't even

854
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 2: say nothing. But if you believe in God and I

855
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 2: tell you that I wanted to be God's friend and

856
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 2: I wanted to even go to Hollywood and still be

857
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 2: God's friend, if I told you that that was my aim,

858
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 2: you can understand where I'm at. Like I promise you

859
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 2: no jealousy, no bitterness, or none of that. I got

860
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 2: exactly what I was trying to get. I haven't been

861
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 2: shortened in any way.

862
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 3: I mean, seven eight kids single, you're gonna get married.

863
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 2: You remember the conversation where I was where it was me, yes,

864
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 2: and I didn't know what was gonna happen to my

865
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 2: two little brothers, and it was just gonna be out there.

866
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:44,240
Speaker 3: Yes.

867
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 2: So when it gone full circle and I'm one of those,

868
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 2: I'm one of the richest men that ever lived. And

869
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 2: don't don't I don't mean please don't look at my

870
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 2: net worth. I saw my net worth. I had that

871
00:48:58,560 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 2: on me.

872
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,919
Speaker 3: I won of God.

873
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is like I'm saying, my network is

874
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 2: less than my last Netflix. There, you understand what I'm

875
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 2: telling makes sense. But I'm fine. Jesus was poor. Jesus

876
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 2: had nothing, So why don't we be mad? You say

877
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 2: I don't have nothing?

878
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 3: They had the minutes they have back then. Okay again,

879
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 3: we got different minutes now, not.

880
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 2: More than gold. Gold was the amenity of that time.

881
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: We still got gold. The coldstill run it.

882
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 5: They they gotta you could buy, you can buy ass.

883
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 3: That's what they call it. The biblical time. They were cheap.

884
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 2: I'm saying, if you really ones say, I'm saying, a

885
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 2: color now is cheap. So back in the day, I

886
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 2: would get my girl a donkey. Today would get her

887
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 2: a color now. But I'm saying whoever, I'm saying whoever

888
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 2: and whatever it is I'm saying, I'm saying, because what

889
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 2: we gonna do. I don I already told you I'm

890
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 2: want of the richest people that ever lived, only in

891
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 2: the fact that when I wake up in the morning,

892
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 2: no matter where I am, I don't need nothing. Whatever

893
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 2: I need is right around me, and whatever I don't have,

894
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 2: it's only just because I don't have it. It's not

895
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 2: because I can't get it. All I gotta do is

896
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 2: want it and it belongs to me. So because of that,

897
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 2: because I'm favored by God. Like when I see people's

898
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 2: wives and stuff, I don't even look at them, you

899
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, I don't want to look

900
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 2: at nothing I don't want to have because I know

901
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 2: how blessed I am. If I look at it, I

902
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 2: got it. That's how did he be feeling.

903
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 3: So you're not supposed to look at anything that.

904
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 2: You don't want, not me personally, just because God has

905
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 2: given me literally everything I ever even pump faked like

906
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 2: I want. And that's the whole thing. That's that's the

907
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 2: whole thing is I don't I don't have a type

908
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 2: of woman. Every woman that I ever had as a type,

909
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 2: I ended up getting her.

910
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: Now she's not the type anymore.

911
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,959
Speaker 2: Now I understand that every woman is a one of one,

912
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 2: Like you can't really have types. M what Because you

913
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 2: see how you trying to ask you about marriage? Yeah

914
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 2: you did. When you rewind the table, you let it out.

915
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 2: You was like, so you ever gonna get married? And

916
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 2: then you took it back. It's Okay, it's okay. I

917
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: wasn't as a philographic memory, are you. I'm not against it.

918
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 2: Like most people that are not married, it's because they're

919
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 2: afraid of commitment.

920
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: It's not that like that.

921
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 3: For me.

922
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,720
Speaker 2: It's just the whole time I wanted to be married,

923
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 2: I I had kids, so I had to try to

924
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 2: fill my wife's place before she got there. So I've

925
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 2: already got kids without a mother. But so now I

926
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 2: gotta be doing laundry, I'm washing dishes, I'm reading stories,

927
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 2: I'm having a nurture. I'm having to do all of this.

928
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 2: And I got to the point where I didn't need

929
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 2: the wife. I'm doing it and we're doing it, and

930
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:27,240
Speaker 2: I'm not replacing a woman in their lives. I'm letting

931
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: them see that that's just the only.

932
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: Thing that we don't have.

933
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 2: And it was easier for me to do that because

934
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 2: you have to understand that all of the kids I'm

935
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 2: raising at this point, they have fathers. You see, they

936
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 2: have a mother.

937
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 3: You see.

938
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 2: I'm a different person I'm raising you, and so that

939
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 2: needs to be done with the other respect for the

940
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 2: others that put work in as well. So, yeah, I

941
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 2: never had a problem getting married.

942
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 3: What's one of the one things you try to teach

943
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 3: your kids.

944
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 2: I don't teach anybody anything that's over eighteen. I've done

945
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 2: the work I was going to do. But as kids,

946
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 2: I really just tried to teach the things that can

947
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 2: be bought, your integrity, trying to live your life in

948
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 2: a way that you yourself could be proud of if you

949
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 2: had to look back on it. And I didn't do

950
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 2: very good at leading by example, but behind the scenes,

951
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:42,240
Speaker 2: I was that's never what I was pushing. They understood

952
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 2: that because of my stance, there was a certain thing

953
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 2: that would come my way, and so accountability and responsibility

954
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 2: is part of what you're teaching, is that you know,

955
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 2: even if you're doing the greatest thing in the world,

956
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 2: there's this thing called no good deed, Gods unpunished, Like

957
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 2: there's a real Murphy's law. Like basically, in raising kids,

958
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 2: you're just trying to give them a better manual and

959
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 2: an outline of how life works. Then your parents gave you,

960
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 2: you know, and so that's how I did it.

961
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 3: What do you think about Kanye rant? What's going on

962
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 3: with Kanye?

963
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 5: From a distance, obviously I don't know how well you

964
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,760
Speaker 5: know Kanye I don't know if you've been around Kanye,

965
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 5: but from a distance, what do you suspects going on?

966
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:41,439
Speaker 2: I suspect that we're pretty awful people. If we say

967
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 2: that somebody got a mental illness and then we watch

968
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 2: what they do. If you say somebody got special needs,

969
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 2: then why would you be watching them and holding them

970
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 2: accountable like everybody else? Wouldn't you grade them on a

971
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 2: curve when you go who this guy? Because I mean,

972
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 2: what are we reacting to? What are we're reacting to?

973
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 2: You're the one that put him in a position where

974
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 2: he thought he was God and could call himself yeasels?

975
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 2: And you're the one told the guy that writes musical

976
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 2: lyrics that he was a genius. You're the one that's like,

977
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 2: so what do you expect? The guy married a whore like

978
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 2: I didn't mean it like that, I mean married her

979
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:38,720
Speaker 2: because she was one. Now, he didn't know, he understood that,

980
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 2: he wanted that, he corded that that's what he wanted.

981
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 2: The basis, I.

982
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 3: Know what you're gonna say, don't you say a cat?

983
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 3: Don't you say it?

984
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is not correct? How does she end

985
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 2: up with Pete Davidson?

986
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:01,240
Speaker 3: I mean the half of Voltata.

987
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 2: And what if you weren't even good enough for Pete

988
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 2: and he leaves, you would do that? Mean the product

989
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 2: was No. I don't support or villainize Kanye because I

990
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 2: don't understand what it is we want from him. I

991
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 2: don't know why we look at a basketball player and

992
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 2: say he didn't score no hockey goals this whole season.

993
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 2: He don't play hockey. Kanye, don't say nothing. I can't

994
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 2: agree with Okay. I he was the weird guy in

995
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 2: the beginning with the pink sweaters when we met him, like,

996
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 2: what do you think moving to a beat of your own?

997
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 2: Drop this? This dude started a church and kept cussing.

998
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 2: Nobody in black church said nothing. You would have thought

999
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 2: all the pastors would have came up. You can't be

1000
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 2: no gospel artists. You just said, fuck that bitch. Nobody

1001
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 2: said nothing because J's over there with being in it.

1002
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 2: Only the guy you had here has been upfront and

1003
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 2: honest and a man of God and humble and took

1004
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 2: the l's he had to take and didn't.

1005
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 3: I did see it was trending, though, But I ain't. No,

1006
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't. I ain't no way I care.

1007
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 3: I don't let me go to this question.

1008
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 2: All people that love the truth gotta be happy if

1009
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 2: the truth coming out and livees is getting exposed, that's

1010
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 2: just what time it is.

1011
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 3: Four folks, do you consider yourself a king of comedy?

1012
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 2: They consider that like like when after Bernie left them,

1013
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 2: same three guys. I'm telling you about the kings. Yeah, right,

1014
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 2: because d L is the greatest. The no d L

1015
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 2: slander gets tolerated. But they came to me. I was

1016
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 2: supposed to be the fourth king. I got the offer.

1017
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 3: What about I.

1018
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 2: Turned it down? Why because you shit on Bernie and

1019
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 2: I know the truth.

1020
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 4: You think I'm you shit on Bernie and then come

1021
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 4: get me, I'm the next king?

1022
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 2: Fuck you? Why because the whole time Bernie was here,

1023
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 2: you was acting like you was funnier than him. The

1024
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 2: reason you were supposed to go last is because it

1025
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 2: was your tour. Tell the truth. It was Steam's tour.

1026
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 2: Now it was gonna be called the King's Comedy. Was

1027
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 2: Steam's tour. These are the guys opening for him. Of

1028
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 2: course you got a close if it's your tour, that's

1029
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 2: why it was such a big deal. But you couldn't

1030
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 2: do it because you can't beat the best. And until

1031
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 2: you humble on yourself, you will forever be kinged by

1032
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 2: the king. And because you finally did it, because you

1033
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 2: didn't have no other choice. And now that he gone,

1034
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 2: you go ahead like he wanted to be a movie star.

1035
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 2: You stop it, You stop it. That man was funnier

1036
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 2: than all of y'all, and y'all thought y'all had one

1037
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 2: over on him. You thought he was black and ugly

1038
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 2: and you were good looking it. He couldn't make it

1039
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 2: cause you did, And that ain't the way comedy worked.

1040
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 2: Is the funniest period, every time. And that's why no

1041
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 2: audience member was ever swayed. It didn't matter where Bernie went.

1042
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 2: You think if Bernie went first, he wasn't the king.

1043
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 2: Get out of here, Get out of here, Get your

1044
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 2: ego out of this.

1045
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: You let the best be the best, right.

1046
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 3: Can't wait?

1047
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 5: You ladies and gentlemen, Thanks for coming on, bro, I

1048
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 5: really appreciate that. Thanks for sharing them. Thank you the

1049
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 5: stories setting the record straight. Now you know they're gonna

1050
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 5: double back.

1051
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 2: Impossible. Impossible only because if once you play this back,

1052
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,959
Speaker 2: you'll realize I didn't say anything that made me look

1053
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 2: in a good light. I wasn't tearing down others to

1054
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 2: boost myself up, but I do have to acknowledge things

1055
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 2: that did not take place. Like we're very ingenuous if

1056
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 2: we say this is not a game and we don't

1057
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 2: play it, and people ain't in positions, and people don't

1058
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 2: have their favorites, and they group and they clicking. But

1059
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 2: that happens at all businesses.

1060
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: No, no, say.

1061
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 2: What side you on, Say why you don't like the

1062
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 2: other side, and then get to the game. But in

1063
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 2: the game, I'm wiping the field with him to the

1064
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 2: point where they don't even compete anymore. So how you

1065
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,439
Speaker 2: gonna let a dude that have been on the bench

1066
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 2: for fifteen years I would have beat Jordan's ass. Shut up.

1067
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 2: Jordan is still alive. We're called Jordan right now.

1068
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 4: You can't meet him now, not then, you can't meet

1069
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 4: him now.

1070
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 3: Let's get to your upbringing.

1071
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 5: Born in Cincinnati, Ohio, raised in Dayton, Ohio.

1072
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 3: What was Cat Williams's upbringing?

1073
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 5: Like your parents with Jehova Awitness, you were a prodigy,

1074
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 5: You were brilliant. You talk to me that you got

1075
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 5: accepted the college at seven years of age.

1076
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 3: You can read fluently at three years of age.

1077
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 5: So having that kind of knowledge, having that kind of

1078
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 5: of of prodigy or so what was so I mean

1079
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 5: with it?

1080
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 3: What was your upbringing? How? How was it? How was

1081
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 3: life as kat Williams crunk coming up?

1082
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 2: I I I was often confused because I knew things

1083
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 2: and I wasn't sure how I knew them. I knew

1084
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 2: things that I felt like, I don't have a reason

1085
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 2: that I k I know this, But I I loved

1086
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 2: to read. I was voracious because they told me when

1087
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 2: I was young that knowledge was powerful. Uh, that knowledge

1088
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 2: was power, and I had studied powerful people, and I

1089
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 2: I really believe that. I I immediately my next project

1090
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 2: was to read the whole encyclopedia set. So when you're

1091
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,959
Speaker 2: like six seven years old, you read the whole encyclopedia set,

1092
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 2: you think you one of the smartest people in the world,

1093
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 2: only to get out in the world and find out

1094
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 2: you don't know anything. You know. So it was a

1095
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 2: confusing time. But yeah, I had a childhood. I was grown.

1096
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 2: But I at five years old, I was in front

1097
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 2: of five ten thousand people, given a performance with a

1098
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 2: full suit and tie on, you know what I mean?

1099
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 2: So it hasn't it had it came full circle for

1100
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 2: my life.

1101
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 1: I knew that.

1102
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 2: The applause and the giving of information and laughs and

1103
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 2: truth to people somehow benefited them and also benefited you.

1104
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 2: And yeah, so when they would ask me what I

1105
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 2: wanted to be, everything that I would say that I

1106
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 2: wanted to be was something that didn't exist, and they

1107
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 2: would never give me credit for it because I needed

1108
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 2: to say a doctor or a lawyer.

1109
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 1: But that's not what I wanted to be.

1110
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 5: So your parents weren't as supportive as you would have

1111
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 5: hoped because you were wanting to be things when you

1112
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 5: got older that they had no knowledge of or it

1113
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 5: didn't exist at the time.

1114
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 2: No, it wasn't that. It was I'm saying, I'm I'm

1115
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 2: almost one hundred years old right now. But if we

1116
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 2: go outside right now, I can run a four three

1117
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 2: forty or sub I can do a four to one six.

1118
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 3: Jimmy John's crossed the street. We can order a sub

1119
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 3: But oh, you've been on the submarine.

1120
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 2: That what you saw, so so back then it was

1121
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 2: even greater. So you got this guy that all the coaches.

1122
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 3: Want to I don't do that.

1123
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 1: Hold on because I'm I'm.

1124
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 2: Five 't five in the fifth grade. I've been this

1125
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 2: high as my whole life. Like there was a portion

1126
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 2: of school where I was one of the big dudes,

1127
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 2: Like it's as soon as everybody caught a grossfurt, I

1128
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 2: was out of it. But I'm saying I was a

1129
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 2: competitive end vigil My father wasn't at acre feedback, like, like, no,

1130
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 2: I've been one hundred and forty five pounds my whole career.

1131
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 2: That's why I never bothered when they said your cats

1132
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 2: on drugs. I knew how you're going to prove that

1133
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 2: my body is a temple.

1134
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 3: I've been the same size since I was teend.

1135
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 2: Like what do you? Yeah? Like, I haven't. I haven't

1136
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 2: changed off this pivot foot. This has always been who

1137
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 2: I was before stand up or anything. But it was

1138
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 2: a It was an interesting childhood. I appreciate my parents,

1139
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 2: even though I couldn't live within the religious frameworks so

1140
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 2: what they had set up. But that was more not

1141
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 2: wanting to live a double life and not want to

1142
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 2: embarrass my family.

1143
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, Because I read were a

1144
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 5: formal punishment for you is that they would take books

1145
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 5: because you mentioned you were such a voracious reader, And

1146
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 5: a formal punishment was when they would take the books

1147
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 5: for me because you could read fluently. You told me

1148
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 5: how at like three or four years old you could

1149
01:04:58,640 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 5: read read read.

1150
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 3: I'm not just a little child's book, but you could

1151
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 3: read read well.

1152
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 2: I'm saying, when we go to Haiti to do missionary work,

1153
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 2: understand that my mother and my father, nobody that's there

1154
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 2: with us speaks French, and I mean it speaks creole

1155
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 2: and reads French. So I'm in charge of everything from

1156
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 2: the housing, to the cars to the gardener, like I'm saying,

1157
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 2: So I'm not just reading. I'm reading in multiple languages.

1158
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 2: I'm probably reading three thousand books a year from the

1159
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 2: time that I'm eight years old to the time that

1160
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 2: I'm twelve. No fiction books at all. I'm only reading nonfiction.

1161
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 3: You could drive at twelve.

1162
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 5: You received the full scholarship to the National Science Academy

1163
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 5: in Dayton, Ohio, but you failed, so you couldn't become

1164
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 5: so you would become ineligible. Why do you want to

1165
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 5: take that opportunity.

1166
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 2: I didn't see it as an opportunity. When I got

1167
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 2: in there. All the students were wearing lab coats, and

1168
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 2: it seemed very confined and restricted, and nobody seemed like

1169
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 2: they were having fun. It just seemed like everybody was smart.

1170
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 2: I didn't want that. That wasn't what I was signing

1171
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 2: up for at all. And plus I thought that I

1172
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 2: was Jesus was my big homie. So you know how

1173
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 2: you get a story about a dude joined the gang

1174
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 2: and get a big home. Like at this particular point

1175
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 2: in my life, my thought is that the Bible is

1176
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 2: the greatest book that's ever been written, that it houses

1177
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 2: the truth, and that it gives you this story of

1178
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 2: Jesus and that I'm supposed to be like him. So

1179
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 2: it's already in my head that as soon as I

1180
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 2: get thirteen, I'm leaving.

1181
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: You.

1182
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 5: At thirteen, you the only like, okay, Mama moving out?

1183
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 5: You moved from Ohio to Florida on your own. You

1184
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 5: weren't afraid. I mean you like, did you?

1185
01:06:59,240 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 2: Did you not hold?

1186
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 4: So?

1187
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 3: What were you going?

1188
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 2: So?

1189
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 3: What were you gonna do when you got to Florida?

1190
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 2: Don't say I wasn't afraid. There's no such thing as

1191
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 2: a human being of not being afraid. There are certain

1192
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 2: human beings that understand that being afraid in no way

1193
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 2: stops you from doing what you gotta do. Okay, So

1194
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 2: I was afraid but I couldn't be that afraid because

1195
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 2: I knew what had happened with Jesus, I knew how

1196
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 2: it worked out. I knew that I wasn't in the

1197
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 2: wrong with how I was feeling, and I knew that

1198
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 2: I didn't have any bad intentions in it. So I

1199
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 2: trusted God that it would work out. Why Florida, Because

1200
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 2: if you're raised in Ohio, the one thing on your

1201
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 2: list is I'm gonna get away from snow and I'm

1202
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 2: gonna get as far I want to go. Tell me

1203
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 2: the place. I literally went to a truck stop and

1204
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 2: I asked all the truck drivers where they was going,

1205
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 2: and there was one guy going to California, and there

1206
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 2: was one guy going to Florida, and they told me

1207
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 2: how long it was gonna take. And so that's why

1208
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 2: I ended up in Miami. Because how did you get there?

1209
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 2: You caught a bus?

1210
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 1: No, I just told you.

1211
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 2: I was at the truck stop. I got in. I

1212
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 2: didn't hitch you like I got in the back of

1213
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 2: the dude eighteen wheeler, me and my Rothwiler puppy and

1214
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 2: my suitcase. Yeah, because I was I probably had twenty

1215
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 2: five hundred dollars on me like I like I was

1216
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 2: shoveling snow and cutting grass, like I always had a

1217
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:26,719
Speaker 2: box full of money.

1218
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 5: When did you make your decision that you were going

1219
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 5: to leave Ohio and go somewhere and it ended up

1220
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 5: being Florida? So but when did you know that you

1221
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 5: were leaving dating Ohio going to Florida?

1222
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 2: And my father and I his last interaction, somebody could

1223
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 2: have not made it, and we both understood that was

1224
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 2: all bad.

1225
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 3: What was the disagreement about?

1226
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 2: If you say that my family is very religious, just

1227
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 2: say I'm not. So anything that I'm going to do

1228
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 2: is it's going to fall out of the guidelines. But

1229
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna let you tell me what I'm going

1230
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 2: to be. Even especially what you're saying is wrong, I

1231
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 2: can't condone wrong. And if I find out that something

1232
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 2: is wrong and I tell you what's wrong and you

1233
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 2: don't back me, that's what it is.

1234
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 5: Even as a young child, you were willing to tell

1235
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 5: your parents that some of the things that you're saying

1236
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:38,639
Speaker 5: doesn't coincide to what I've been reading in the Bible.

1237
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 2: No, no, very, simply don't try to this fellowship me

1238
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 2: for sexual accent. I'm a virgin. Sorry, God don't make mistakes.

1239
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 2: You don't get two times to fuck me over. What

1240
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:54,679
Speaker 2: do you mean You went to God and he told

1241
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:58,719
Speaker 2: y'all was guilty. You just lie on God so long,

1242
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 2: that's it. No conversation deuces.

1243
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:06,879
Speaker 5: So that that's when you made the decision. After that conversation,

1244
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 5: right there, you say, no, I can't, I can't live

1245
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 5: under this room.

1246
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 2: It wasn't a conversation, it was an altercation. And the

1247
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 2: altercation I love my father. My father loved me, but

1248
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 2: we are two men at it that it'll never be

1249
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 2: the same again. You can't sleep comfortably around me and

1250
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 2: I can't sleep comfortably around you.

1251
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 3: How similar are you to your father?

1252
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:36,719
Speaker 2: No, I don't know. He's a great man. I'm saying because.

1253
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 3: Your buddy heads.

1254
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:43,879
Speaker 2: Right, But I'm saying that generally happens with a father's

1255
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 2: son dynamic. It was just that religious relationships are always

1256
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 2: differentult than families. They always are.

1257
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 5: Before he got to the point, because the dynamic he's father,

1258
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 5: your son, before that dynamic, and you step up on

1259
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 5: his level and you challenge him, you felt it was

1260
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 5: best for you to leave.

1261
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm not being challenged. I'm being beat

1262
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 2: to death.

1263
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:12,680
Speaker 3: Oh he was abusive.

1264
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 2: I didn't say that. I said we were in an altercation.

1265
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 3: Uh, I see what you did that. I saw what

1266
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 3: you did that. I saw what you did that. Cat,

1267
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 3: I saw what you did. You was an altercation. You

1268
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:26,839
Speaker 3: didn't say you lost. You say he's an altercation.

1269
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 2: I in no way gave you the impression that I

1270
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:35,719
Speaker 2: won anything. I'm the one leaving. I'm out of bounds.

1271
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 2: This is his house, right ye. Yeah, So as long

1272
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 2: as I'm gonna be under his roofs, there are certain

1273
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 2: things that I'm gonna have to do right. And the

1274
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:50,679
Speaker 2: only way that's gonna change is either this or that.

1275
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 2: And I'm saying I had two younger brothers, Like I'm

1276
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 2: not I'm not an unreasonable person, Like I don't have

1277
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 2: any mental issues whatsoever, despite what they leave people to believe.

1278
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 1: You know, I make good, pretty good decisions.

1279
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 3: Were you not? So how was their relationship with your father?

1280
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 5: Were you not afraid to leave them?

1281
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 2: Well, I asked, because it went all the way to

1282
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 2: the actual department, so it was actually going to be something.

1283
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 2: And when I asked them if they could just make

1284
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 2: sure that my brothers didn't get separated, and was to

1285
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 2: have you they said they couldn't make those type of guarantees,

1286
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:37,679
Speaker 2: that they weren't really sure what would happen if this

1287
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 2: went down, and so part of leaving was the hope

1288
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 2: that it would be okay for them because none of

1289
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 2: them experienced what I experienced. I'm saying I'm the oldest.

1290
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 2: It's a lot riding on me. I'm supposed to at

1291
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 2: least religiously hold down the family's name right at this household,

1292
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

1293
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 3: How much older are you than the baby and the

1294
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 3: knee baby?

1295
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 2: Like a lot older, like if I'm at thirteen. Yeah,

1296
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 2: they're five and in pampers.

1297
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 3: Wow. Right, you go to Florida. You tell the story.

1298
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 5: I've heard you you homeless, and somebody else told the story,

1299
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:28,719
Speaker 5: said they were homeless, and you said they hijacked your story.

1300
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 3: Now, hey, I don't know.

1301
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:32,919
Speaker 2: At thirteen, I shouldn't have to tell you I'm homeless.

1302
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 2: I'm in I'm in Miami, Florida. I have no family

1303
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 2: members in Florida. I couldn't buy a house if I

1304
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 2: wanted to. I couldn't get an apartment if I wanted to.

1305
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 2: I don't have a credit history. Like this is not

1306
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,639
Speaker 2: a stretch for me to say that I'm homeless. I'm

1307
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 2: living in a park in Coconut Grove. The park still

1308
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 2: exists to this day. For eight hours a day, I

1309
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:01,719
Speaker 2: would get up and go to the library and study

1310
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 2: for eight hours a day to increase my education. And

1311
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 2: then I would leave out of there and go to

1312
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:10,679
Speaker 2: the marina and steal car radios and make two thousand

1313
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 2: dollars almost daily. Like I had a routine.

1314
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 5: So you and I could have played then Santa Oh

1315
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 5: thief in Santa Claus.

1316
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 3: You could have played it.

1317
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 2: No, the Santa Claus wasn't a thief. The Santa Claus.

1318
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 2: You can't tell me I read the script. Ricky Smiley

1319
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 2: told you he didn't read the script. The Santa Claus

1320
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 2: was a crackhead. He just had that outfit on. That's

1321
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 2: what I couldn't have played, Okay, Like I couldn't have

1322
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:38,600
Speaker 2: played a black guy that got raped in the bathroom.

1323
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 5: Right, So eighty point in time, did you like? Man,

1324
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 5: I made a mistake. Man, I should have stayed my

1325
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 5: buddy in Ohio. Man, cause this is man. Let's say

1326
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 5: what I signed up for.

1327
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 2: I didn't experience anything once I left home that I

1328
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:56,719
Speaker 2: hadn't signed up for if anything had saved my life,

1329
01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 2: me being homeless for that small period of time allowed

1330
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 2: me to see all of the people that were in

1331
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 2: that situation, and to see that these were lawyers and

1332
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:11,680
Speaker 2: doctors and teachers, and that these people were white and

1333
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 2: black and Asian and Indian. And the only thing that

1334
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:19,680
Speaker 2: all of these homeless people had in in common was

1335
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:25,520
Speaker 2: they made a bad decision and aligned themselves with drugs.

1336
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 2: And I interviewed them all what drug and guess what, Shannon, Well,

1337
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:32,799
Speaker 2: nobody had a great story.

1338
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 1: Nobody had a great story.

1339
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 2: Of what meth had done for them, what crack had

1340
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 2: done for them, with cocaine had done for them, where

1341
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 2: heroin had done for them, with speed had done for them.

1342
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 2: Nobody had them stories. Everybody's story was I had my

1343
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 2: life together and then I decided to do this dumb

1344
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 2: thing and I lost my wife, I lost my house,

1345
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 2: I lost my cars, I lost my reputation, and I'm

1346
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 2: now out here sucking penis in the woods. What talk

1347
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 2: about scared straight? You ain't got the worry about me.

1348
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:13,640
Speaker 4: If that ain't weed or nicotine, you won't see me

1349
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 4: touching it.

1350
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 2: I don't want no parts. I didnet seen what these

1351
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 2: things can do to people. Anything that take over your

1352
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 2: free will is the devil itself.

1353
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:24,720
Speaker 5: Have you ever thought about what your life would have

1354
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 5: been had you stayed in Dayton, Ohio?

1355
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:35,640
Speaker 2: No, that's like asking somebody that's in the NBA for

1356
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 2: fourteen years, like, what would have happened if you didn't

1357
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 2: come to the NBA. Oh I shudder to think. I

1358
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 2: thought it was what I was made for. I thought

1359
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 2: it was what I was built for. Anybody that knows

1360
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:50,680
Speaker 2: me will tell you that when they first met Kat Williams,

1361
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 2: when I was Cat in the Hat, and they tell

1362
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 2: these stories about how he changed his name. Look, the

1363
01:16:56,120 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 2: truth of the matter is Disney sued me. Yeah, Cat

1364
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 2: and the Hack. They sent me a cease and desist letter.

1365
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 2: And I'm not even making twenty five thousand dollars a

1366
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:10,680
Speaker 2: year and the mega company, Disney has sent me a

1367
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 2: cease and desist telling me I can't use any variations

1368
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 2: of that name. Fine, I'm Kat Williams. That's all that happened.

1369
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 2: I have been this same product the entire time. They

1370
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 2: will tell you when they first saw me doing stand up,

1371
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 2: I was just like this, this is what I bring,

1372
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 2: this my style.

1373
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 5: When did it When did you know you was going

1374
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 5: you wanted? Were you always funny? Did you always want to.

1375
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:39,520
Speaker 3: Be a comedian? Did you stumble on a comedianship?

1376
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 1: No?

1377
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 2: I loved what they did, and so I studied them,

1378
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 2: all of them. I studied all of the white comedians

1379
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 2: because I wanted to know why is Monty Python funny?

1380
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:55,680
Speaker 2: Why is Don not so talented? I wanted to know

1381
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 2: what is George Carlin thing like? Where? So I studied

1382
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 2: all of the comedy masters, regardless of the field, because

1383
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 2: I loved to laugh. I didn't know that these people

1384
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 2: were making a great living at doing this. I thought

1385
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:17,599
Speaker 2: this is just what they did. They tell jokes, they're

1386
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:21,679
Speaker 2: funny people. But I loved the craft, and that's why

1387
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 2: when I got into the craft, I thought it was

1388
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 2: my obligation to make sure that I kept writing new

1389
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:31,639
Speaker 2: materials so much that it forced these comedians to stop

1390
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 2: doing the set they've been doing for ten years and

1391
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 2: keep writing some new stuff. And I knew that if

1392
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 2: I could get that to take on, that most of

1393
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 2: these bombs would have to just quit comedy because they

1394
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 2: can't keep up. They're not gonna keep writing an hour

1395
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 2: worth of material. I've written an hour worth of material

1396
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 2: nineteen times. They not gonna do it. Why because they're

1397
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 2: not creative writers. They want to get somebody else and

1398
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 2: have them write it and put it together.

1399
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 5: So, if I'm listening to you, correct Correign if I'm wrong,

1400
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 5: I think the best thing that ever happened was the

1401
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:09,679
Speaker 5: Internet because now they have to because normally, like you said,

1402
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 5: you could do a set and you do that, do that.

1403
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 5: That's set in Kansas City. People ain't hurting in San Francisco,

1404
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 5: people ain't hurting in Miami. They ain't heard in Detroit, Chicago, Atlanta,

1405
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:21,679
Speaker 5: so forth, and so on. Now you do a set,

1406
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:24,719
Speaker 5: it's on the internet. Somebody heard it. So you can't

1407
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 5: do a set and make it last three months four months.

1408
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 2: Well, it doesn't allow the regular comic the ability to

1409
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 2: grow is the real problem. Like the part of comedy

1410
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:46,839
Speaker 2: is me taking these jokes in January and by March

1411
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:50,639
Speaker 2: I've begun to craft this joke. It's not as simple

1412
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 2: as it was when I wrote it. It was just

1413
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 2: da da Da da da. But now it has the

1414
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 2: complexities of the fact that I'm having to deliver this

1415
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 2: to an East Coast audience, a down South audience, a

1416
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 2: Midwest audience, a Utah audience, a Colorado audience, And so

1417
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:11,720
Speaker 2: it begins to take on a different complexion because you're

1418
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 2: having to deliver it to different people. Okay, and so

1419
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:18,679
Speaker 2: this is what sharpens your joke. If you then take

1420
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 2: those sharpened jokes and make a special not you just

1421
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 2: randomly take some. So it's a process. You don't allow

1422
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 2: them to process. If the first time the guy did

1423
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 2: the joke, now that's his joke, and the joke is everywhere,

1424
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 2: that just sets it up for people to steal.

1425
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 5: So how many times must you tell a joke before

1426
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 5: you master it?

1427
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:44,680
Speaker 2: How many times have you had to sleep with a

1428
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 2: woman before you're done with her? That's not fair. If

1429
01:20:51,120 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 2: it's great, never, if it ceases to have usefulness has

1430
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 2: been spoken? Right?

1431
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 3: I read that you was raised in Florida. You had

1432
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 3: some help, some ladies of the night.

1433
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 2: No, no, no, that's not true. No, that whole story

1434
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:16,600
Speaker 2: doesn't take place in Florida. That story takes place in

1435
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City.

1436
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 3: Okay.

1437
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 2: So after I'm in Florida, I then join I try

1438
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 2: to join the Marine Corps and it won't accept me

1439
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:27,800
Speaker 2: because I'm I'm too young, and I've lied and told

1440
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:28,680
Speaker 2: them I'm sixteen and.

1441
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 1: My family's moving down now.

1442
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 2: I don't have my ID, but it's coming, and so

1443
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 2: they let me go to the boot camp. Blah blah blah.

1444
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 2: That's not gonna work now, Okay, So I've learned that lesson.

1445
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:39,680
Speaker 2: So then I get this job selling stuff door to

1446
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:42,880
Speaker 2: door across the country. And so I've been to all

1447
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 2: fifty states. Again, I'm thirty fourteen years old, So I

1448
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 2: did that at While I'm doing that, one of the

1449
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 2: places i'm at, I'm in Oklahoma, and I've decided I'm

1450
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 2: gonna stay here because of meeting these ladies that you're

1451
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 2: talking about and that situation. I don't know at the

1452
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 2: time why that's important in my life, or why it's

1453
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:10,800
Speaker 2: something I should be doing or any of that, but

1454
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:14,679
Speaker 2: now later on it certainly helps me in formulating money.

1455
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:19,559
Speaker 2: Mike for Friday after next and pimp named Slickback for

1456
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 2: the boondocks.

1457
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 5: Oklahoma. So San Francisco, Oklahoma, Sacramento. From Florida, you moved

1458
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 5: to the West coast after So you're traveling. When did

1459
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 5: you set up shop on the West coast?

1460
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 3: Were there?

1461
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 2: So, I guess I'm uh eighteen or younger and I

1462
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 2: once I have my Once I have a child, I

1463
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 2: realized that I can't. It's a lot of things that

1464
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 2: I could use to make money that now is a

1465
01:22:55,600 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 2: no go. So anything with street aspirations that I might

1466
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 2: have thought about pursuing or been good at, I now

1467
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 2: am a single parent and I gotta redo these things.

1468
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 2: So I need comedy to really work out for me,

1469
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 2: and me and God go into extreme conversation where I'm

1470
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 2: explaining to him that I'm a crash out dummy if

1471
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 2: he don't send me a lifeline, like I need something

1472
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:27,639
Speaker 2: I can hold on to. Before I had left Florida,

1473
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 2: I did stand up one time because we was trying

1474
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 2: to get in the club. I didn't have ID, so

1475
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:34,679
Speaker 2: I said I was a comedian. They ended up having

1476
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 2: me do five minutes. I kept that in my head

1477
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 2: that I had done that. When we get to Oklahoma,

1478
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 2: they're having a competition for stand up and if you win,

1479
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 2: you get to go out on the road with Jeff

1480
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 2: Foxworthy and Dan Whitney who is Larry the Cable Guy,

1481
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 2: and Richard.

1482
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 1: Jenny and these great comics. You get to open for him.

1483
01:23:56,479 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 2: And once I did that, I realized, Okay, as a comedian.

1484
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 2: I'm like way behind schedule out and started this too late.

1485
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:09,599
Speaker 2: All the funny guys are already funny and known names,

1486
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 2: like how am I going to progress? So I realize

1487
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:16,600
Speaker 2: that I do better with a white audience than I

1488
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:19,559
Speaker 2: do with a black audience. And I'm not sure why

1489
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 2: that's occurrent, but the white audience likes me more. That's interesting.

1490
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 2: So when I moved to Sacramento, it's because Sacramento has

1491
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:32,599
Speaker 2: a white and a black audience almost fifty to fifty.

1492
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 2: That's almost the makeup of Sacramento. So I live in

1493
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 2: Sacramento for two years until I get to the point

1494
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 2: where I am equally as funny if the room is

1495
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 2: black as I am if the room is white. That's

1496
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:49,559
Speaker 2: not enough. Now I need to be one of the

1497
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 2: good ones when it comes to black comics. So now

1498
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 2: I have to move to Oakland. And that's what lands

1499
01:24:55,280 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 2: me in Oakland for three years. Once I have dominated

1500
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 2: male black comedy in Oakland to my liking. Now I'm

1501
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:11,800
Speaker 2: prepared to go to Los Angeles.

1502
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 1: Now, now I.

1503
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 2: Know you can't throw me any curveballs if it's a

1504
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 2: white audience, if it's a black audience, no matter what

1505
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 2: they are I'm prepared to deal with all of the audiences.

1506
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 5: Do you write jokes according to the audience that you're

1507
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:28,080
Speaker 5: going to be in front of or your joke universal?

1508
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 2: Well, in the beginning, part of my framework is that

1509
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 2: I'm tailoring every show to this audience, okay. And that's

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Speaker 2: how I was able to show my range and show

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01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:44,759
Speaker 2: that I was better than my competitors, is that I'm

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01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:48,760
Speaker 2: Kat Williams. But I was still doing clean comedy. So

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01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:51,679
Speaker 2: I was still going to churches and doing forty five

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01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 2: minutes of stand up at the church with no curse words,

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01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 2: no sex, drug material, no none of that, just straight

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01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 2: stand up. And I was doing everything else. And yeah,

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01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 2: that was the range. Is that where when in Rome

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01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:14,240
Speaker 2: do as the Romans do? So that's how I started.

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Speaker 2: But as you begin to get better, you begin to

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01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:22,080
Speaker 2: be able to speak to your entire fan base. And

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01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 2: that's really what's been helpful is that I've been having

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01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 2: the same conversation with my fan base for twelve comedy specials.

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Speaker 5: Is that what said Cat Williams apart is your range

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01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:38,559
Speaker 5: is that you can do a comedy, do forty five

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01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 5: minutes from the church. I can go to a comedy

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01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 5: club in front of two fifty, or I can go

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01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 5: into arena with fifteen thousand.

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01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 3: That's range because everybody can't do that.

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01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 2: Cat Well, if that's what range is called, then then

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01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:57,599
Speaker 2: then yeah it's ranged. But I I like the.

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01:26:57,600 --> 01:26:58,760
Speaker 1: People I'm talking to.

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Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying, So it's not It's not

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01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 2: like it can't be condescending because I'm talking to my

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01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:07,679
Speaker 2: white male friend.

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01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 1: When I'm telling that white joke.

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01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 2: Right when I'm talking about this joke about this black lady,

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01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:15,200
Speaker 2: I know that black lady. That's who I'm talking to.

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01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm I'm speaking to this fan base that

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01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 2: I've been speaking to from the beginning. I already told

1540
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 2: them what I was on when I first came in.

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01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 2: I told them they was gonna come after me, They

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01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 2: was gonna cancel me, They was gonna say terrible things

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01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 2: about me and try to mess my life up. I

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01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:34,760
Speaker 2: said that coming in to stand up. I'm saying it.

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01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 3: Well, you knew it was gonna be.

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01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:38,600
Speaker 2: It has to be. I know I'm going into the

1547
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:40,880
Speaker 2: belly of the beast. How could I be naive? I

1548
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 2: know that I'm going into Satan's playground, But I'm trying

1549
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 2: to be so good that you got to bring me

1550
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 2: in so close that I can see who's doing what

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01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 2: and what's going on in.

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01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 3: There in San Francisco, You join the nation?

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01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 2: I was ever in San Francisco. I was in Oakland.

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01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 3: You was an Oakland Did you join the nation? Is that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Minister, honorable Minister far Khan and I have an

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01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 2: extremely close relationship. He refers to me as one of

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01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 2: his sons. So yeah, I spent a particular period of time.

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Speaker 2: Let me explain, yes, because my particular background was already

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01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 2: religious and super strict right. I didn't find out about

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01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:35,520
Speaker 2: other religions by reading about them. I went to their religion.

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01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:39,680
Speaker 2: I don't want to learn from Jewish people from outside.

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01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 2: I want to be in a synagogue. I want to

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01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 2: I don't want to learn about Muslim people from I

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01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 2: want to be in a mosque. I don't want to

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01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 2: hear about the Baptist or the Pentecostal. I want to

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01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 2: go to their church. Let's see. And so that was

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01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:57,240
Speaker 2: the religious discovery that I was on through that period

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01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 2: in my life.

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Speaker 3: What did join club?

1570
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:02,120
Speaker 5: Because I'm an official member by hitting that subscribe button

1571
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 5: where you never know who's going to be joining us

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01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 5: for drinks and conversation. Don't be late to the party

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01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 5: because you know we'd like to do something before do something.