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Speaker 1: like their options, so they they're almost forced to do

426
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 1: what they're doing. So I think they're gonna be fine

427
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 1: where They're gonna try and win games however they can.

428
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 1: But there's no question they're not the team they were

429
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: a year ago. With the departure Russ Wilson and Drew

430
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: Locke being traded. They almost look like a second class

431
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: citizen team in the NFC West with Arizona, the Rams

432
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 1: and even San Francisco, although they have some quarterback things

433
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 1: to figure out too. Right, Yeah, I'm with you. I

434
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: think they're gonna ride it out, and I mean the

435
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: draft is better next year for quarterback and it may

436
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 1: be posturing on the part of ownerships. Say listen, Pete,

437
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: it's time for you to go. You're seventy and you

438
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 1: know the shine is off it. Thanks for the thanks

439
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 1: for the great years of service. We're gonna move on,

440
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: and maybe that's the ultimate plan has given them some

441
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: ammunition to move on and rebuild it. We have to

442
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: take a break here because when we come back, NFL

443
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Speaker 1: Network analyst and former sixteen year NFL wide receiver Steve Smith,

444
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: it's gonna join us here in studio next on One

445
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Speaker 1: Bills Live, presented by Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

446
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: You don't know who Steve Smith did by end this game,

447
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 1: you don't know who he is. I promise you that

448
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: he ain't. So I need to dunk your pur You

449
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: better double cover cover. That's not lethally right, then that's

450
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: not that's fault. My concern is just is the guy

451
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: in front of me. Honestly, I want your mom to

452
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,719
Speaker 1: be pissed off once heco sports, then I'm doing our

453
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: son like dirt. That's what I want, all right. He

454
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: probably doesn't need an introduction, but we're gonna give him

455
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 1: one anyway. A man who's had one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,

456
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 1: eight one thousand yards seasons in his thirteen sorry sixteen

457
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: year career. It is Steve Smith joining us you see

458
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: him probably now more than anywhere else on NFL network

459
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: as he's an a list for them. But he's got

460
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: some podcast stuff going on as well. Steve, thanks for

461
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: joining us. You're up here kind of checking in with

462
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: the old Carolina boys up here in Buffalo. They call

463
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: the Carolina of the North. They do, indeed, you'll do. Yeah,

464
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: it's getting now that they've been there for five years now,

465
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: it's kind of like there's not that many guys left

466
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: from when they were there. Yeah. Yeah, Morgan actually went

467
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: back right he was here and then went back, So yeah,

468
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 1: they're still a cross pollination. You're here. You told us

469
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna speak to the rookies today. Absolutely, yeah, I'll

470
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 1: talk to the rookies Coach McDermot and uh, some of

471
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: the guys. Brendan bean Mark Carry asked me, will I

472
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: speak to some of the rookies, So absolutely, Well, it

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00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: will be the message for those young guys. You know,

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Speaker 1: what's what's what are the words of wisdom from a

475
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: sixteen year NFL event um dworsha wisdom is uh, you

476
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,959
Speaker 1: know a forty three years old just turned forty three

477
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: a month ago and taking care of taking you need

478
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: to be consider you need to be concerned about the

479
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: future because that's where you will live the rest of

480
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,239
Speaker 1: your life. And so understanding how you prepare for that

481
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: is today. Is that what you would have told yourself?

482
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what that's exactly, It's exactly what it's

483
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: based on. And I try to figure out when I'm

484
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,719
Speaker 1: sitting in those meetings in that chair, what did I

485
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: need to hear? I even took it a step further

486
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: and I ask my wife as well, what does she think?

487
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: What does she believe? As the wife of Steve Smith

488
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: saying here, what did you think I needed to hear

489
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: as a young man? And you know, several things she

490
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: told me. She told me to tell them, be careful

491
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: of the people you surround yourself around, um, be be

492
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: honest and true to yourself, Be honest and true to

493
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Speaker 1: your family. And you know, and really honestly is having

494
00:29:55,240 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: those heart conversations will leads to many hard conversations. Yeah,

495
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: it's I think sometimes because because I've heard Steve talk

496
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: about this on the show a lot. When you're that age,

497
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: when you're those guys in that room, you feel like

498
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: your bulletproof number one and then number two you kind

499
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: of have to act that way if you're going to

500
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: hang around in this league for a while, dude, you

501
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: have to be supremely confident in yourself and act somewhat

502
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: like we just saw Steve Smith as a play. You know,

503
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: you've got to believe I'm the best out here. That's

504
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: how you stay in the league. Yeah, you do. You

505
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: have to believe that. You have to drink your own

506
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: kool late, right, And part of that has to do

507
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: with it. Maybe it's just me, um, I believe because

508
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: of the insecurity that we have a we're in a

509
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: job that evaluate being evaluated every single day. Everything we do,

510
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: what we eat was you know, I'm here and learning

511
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: the nutrition what we eat. People are watching what we say,

512
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: People are watching how we answer. People are watching the

513
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: show one right now watching Um maybe a fan, maybe

514
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: a foe that maybe watching and say, oh, that wasn't

515
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: the way you were as a player. Well, how do

516
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: you know that? Because you only saw me in my

517
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: job for two and a half hours. Right In those

518
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: two and a half hours technically which you really saw,

519
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: it was about seventeen minutes of work. A lot of

520
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: other stuff didn't count, Like I didn't play defense, so

521
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 1: so understanding seeing that i am who I am, and

522
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: I've learned what I've learned, I've been through what I've

523
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: been through, and helping and assisting other guys, painting forward

524
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: like Steve Tasker has done with other guys. You know,

525
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: I'm grew up in LA many of times seeing the

526
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills take out the Los Angeles Raiders and the

527
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders at that time when when both Jackson was

528
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: injured and seeing you guys do that on your on

529
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: your run of four years of just greatness that whether

530
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: it's a special teams guy or wide receiver, the impact

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00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: that you had on a player like me. Yeah, it's

532
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: interesting too because nowadays these guys come into the league

533
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: and it's it's a little bit because it's so exposed.

534
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: And I've said this before most of these guys, for

535
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: all the all the superstar guys, the quarterbacks and a

536
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,719
Speaker 1: lot of the other guys. You have to have somebody

537
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: when you're not at the stadium. You gotta have somebody

538
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: who's got you at home. You need to have a

539
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: support now, either a wife who's you know, strong girl,

540
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: or a family member, because you gotta have friends that

541
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: you can live with, even if it's a teammate. Well,

542
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: and I when I was first started my rookie year,

543
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: I had I had a buddy on the team. We

544
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: got an apartment together because we don't even I didn't

545
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: know as many of the team until they actually told

546
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: me I made the team, right, I mean, I thought

547
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: I was going to be, you know, gone. But you

548
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: gotta to help you get through those long days of

549
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: evaluation where you know everything you do is set, watched

550
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: and evaluated. You gotta have someplace to go to retreat,

551
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: and you do need somebody you can trust in your life.

552
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: You gotta have somebody who you can go home to. Well,

553
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: I take it a step further though. You have to

554
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: be trustworthy, yeah, right right. You have to show that

555
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: you can hold your into the bargain up. And I

556
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: think for myself, you know, outside of football, there were

557
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: times where I was not trustworthy, right, um, And that's

558
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: just calling a spade to spade, right. Your relationships, your

559
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: relationship should should be a mayor a reflection of what

560
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: you're giving and given into that person, a given to

561
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: that person, so it's a clear reflection of that so

562
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: that that's a true relationship. Yeah, exactly, It needs to

563
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: be a relation, not a It can't be somebody you

564
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: hire as an assistant. It got to be somebody who's

565
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: in a relationship with you that you're invested in. Let's

566
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: speak in relationships. Your last year in Carolina was Ken

567
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: Dorsey's first year as quarterbacks coach. I don't know that

568
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: you had. I yeah, So you know he's the OC here.

569
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: He's under the microscope of the fan base because this

570
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: offense has been wildly successful. Now he has to run it,

571
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: and he'll obviously put his own twist on it. But

572
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: maybe just paint a picture, if you could, based on

573
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: how well you know Ken, what should Bills fans expect

574
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: from Ken Dorsey as an OC A guy kind of

575
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: running the show. You know that that is an interesting question,

576
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 1: and I have to have an interesting answer because Ken

577
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: has never been in this position before, and we don't know,

578
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: I know, the vast knowledge of offense that he has.

579
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 1: He understands he's played the position. So that's one that's

580
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: a check. He's coached some dynamic players, didn't have anything.

581
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: He didn't have anything to do with those dynamic players.

582
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 1: They're dynamic before he got there, right, I'm always amazed

583
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: and Steve. You may laugh at this. I'm always amazed

584
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: that when they list a coach his accolade. Oh, he

585
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: coached this guy to this Pro Bowl that was a

586
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl player. You just happen to be around him, right,

587
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: Let's be honest. You don't. You You can assist, but

588
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: you can't step in front of God on some of

589
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: the talents that some of these men have been drafted into,

590
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: like the wide receiver coach. From here, he gets to

591
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: experience and be around Diggs. Diggs is what he was

592
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: prior to him back here. Now his quarterback, He's made

593
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: it a hell of a lot easier for him to

594
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: perform and be well and sleep well and be prepared.

595
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: So so again with Ken, I believe Ken will do

596
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: some outstanding things because he also has the accuraman of football.

597
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: He understands how ball works. He was around the team

598
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: with the Miami Hurricanes and playing. He understands feeding your

599
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: workhorses makes the quarterback job easier. Right, But what the

600
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: offense will look like, how will look under him? There

601
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: will be some shades of gray. There will be some

602
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: shades of black and white that is very clear, but

603
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: there'll be some gray areas because it's his first time. Right,

604
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm a father of four and I've had four different

605
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: experiences with each of my children. But I know what

606
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: it is to be a dad. I just don't know

607
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 1: what it is to be a dad for my first

608
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: one versus my fourth one, and my second one versions

609
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: my third. What do you remember about the way he

610
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: would interact with whether it's players at different he was

611
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: running quarterbacks then, but he would he was farked here

612
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,959
Speaker 1: about wanting to bleed over into the other positions, strike

613
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: up relationships, have interactions, And I think that has to

614
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:27,959
Speaker 1: do with him watching and observing the segregation of positions

615
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: on teams. Right if you go on locker rooms at times,

616
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: teams are starting to switch it up where it's no

617
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: longer linemen on this side of the room of the

618
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: locker room. Yeah, shuffle of deck. Yeah, the shuffle in

619
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: deck because you gotta get them. The whole thing with

620
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: football now is evolving is integration. If you can integrate

621
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: the team, you congratulate at the end because the togetherness

622
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: and the relationships are built and they become stronger because

623
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: of the nuances and off the time they're off the

624
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: field that they're constantly learning each other. We've seen Sean McDermot.

625
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: In fact, I've said this before in the show, one

626
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: of his real gifts would and he has itself admittedly

627
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: had a lot to learn about being a head coach,

628
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: first time head coach, and they always have more on

629
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: their plate than they've been they've had as coordinator. But

630
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: one of the things he kind of got right out

631
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: of the gate when it was extremely good at was

632
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: getting guys together and building a team. In fact, one

633
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: of the hallmarks of the time he's been here in Carolina,

634
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: he sent from Carolina at the Buffalo is his ability

635
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: to get new guys integrated into the old guys and

636
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: haven't become a new team every offseason they've had. You know,

637
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: they got a ton of guys on one year contracts,

638
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: always have a handful of contributors. They're just there for

639
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: the year. It seems like then if they perform well,

640
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: they signed him later, but that one year looks like

641
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: a window. He's been really good at doing that. Did

642
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 1: you see that any of that when you knew him

643
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: earlier as the coordinator? And have you seen other coaches

644
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: have that kind of success. I mean, every coach has

645
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: their own spin on being head coach and managing the

646
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: personalities and managing the locker room, managing themselves the coaches.

647
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: Coach McDermott, me and him have always had a unique relationship,

648
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: you know, being an offensive player and him being a

649
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. We've always talked. When he first got to Carolina,

650
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: he came down as I was doing some rehab in

651
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 1: the training room. He came down and he just was sit.

652
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: He said, Hey, you're forced to sit with me because

653
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: you have to get treatment. She can't go anywhere, So

654
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: let me ask you some questions. And so the dialogue

655
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: really benefited to where he started asking me questions. I

656
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 1: would ask him and he would be able to give

657
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: me advice on defense. And then he would come up

658
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: with me, Hey, what did you think about this? I

659
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: like this, but I saw this, and here's why. He's like, well,

660
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 1: you're different. I understand, and you are different as well. Right,

661
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: And here's the last caveat a lot of the defensive

662
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: minded head coaches that are successful in this league right

663
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: now are coming from William and Mary. Yeah, Mike Tomlin,

664
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin, McDermott and I always told McDermott, you have

665
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: to be successful because you're not really a football team.

666
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, But my point is it's just

667
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: it's one of those I'm bringing it up and I

668
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: told coach McDermott that and he kind of he he

669
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: looked at me funny after I made that statement and

670
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 1: he figured out why I made the statement. I made

671
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: the statement. It wasn't the dig Amy William and Mary.

672
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: It was the fact that he realized I went back

673
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: into research on him right to be able to get

674
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: that dig right. But it's it's the it's the understanding

675
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: of you gotta do your homework on everybody. You can't

676
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: just do the homework on the people outside of the building.

677
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: You gotta do your homework about the guys. Yet you're

678
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: going to play with every single week. Bit about Josh

679
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: and Ken Dorsey, who addressed the media this week, said

680
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: he feels that he and Josh see the game the

681
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: same way, which should help. That's always great. Yeah, and

682
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: there are and people are asked, well, you're gonna take

683
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: input from Josh. He goes, I'd be stupid not to

684
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: take input from Josh over the course of a game

685
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: when you're making adjustments or what he's seeing this, that

686
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: and the other. But he didn't deny the fact that

687
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 1: there will be instances where he will say, well, that's

688
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: a great suggestion, Josh, but we're gonna do it this way,

689
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 1: and this is why? How how important is the why

690
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: to a player like you know, put yourself back in

691
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: your playing shoes. You got a coach coming to you

692
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: and saying, look, I hear you, but we got to

693
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: do it this way. When he can give you a why,

694
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: how much of a difference does that make because he's

695
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: not roundly rejecting your suggestion, he's saying, I get it,

696
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: but this is why we have to do it this way.

697
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: Does that help? Or are you still pissed off they're

698
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 1: not doing it your way? What helps is the success

699
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: of the play. If you're going to minimize my suggestion,

700
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: your option better be better than my better work. And

701
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: but I mean that because what you don't want to

702
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: do is start to turn on the selective hearing of

703
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: your players because they feel like that you're unapproachable. They

704
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: feel like that you don't listen. And I tell you

705
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: what I dislike more than anything, I dislike the smartest

706
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: guy in the room. If you're the smartest guy in

707
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: the room, that means you know all answers, and if

708
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: you know all answers, that means we're in trouble because

709
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: there's no way that you can ever know every single

710
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: thing by watching. It's easy to trust Josh though, right,

711
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 1: I mean he comes to the sideline. I'm talking about

712
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: the coach I'm talking about. But because if you're telling

713
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: me that you know all answers to the test, so

714
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: you're telling me that you know exactly at every single

715
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: moment what the defense is going to run and they

716
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: are never gonna fool us. Is that what you're telling me?

717
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: And you're telling me that that I was supposed to

718
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 1: have complete confidence in that. I don't like smartest people

719
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: in the room. I don't think it's a situation. No, no,

720
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you didn't ask it, ask it. I'm

721
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: just answering what does happen in this league? And we're

722
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: not naming names, but there's some coaches out there that

723
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: better every time that have to have answers to the test,

724
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: and that that erose at the at the player and

725
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: the coach's relationship because he the player starts to feel

726
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: like you know everything, which means you're going to tell

727
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: me to check my brain at the door, which means

728
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: that this is not really a relationship. So why should

729
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: I bother give an input? And then eventually why should

730
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: I bother being here? Because you have all answers. Because

731
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 1: when someone has all answers, that also tells a player

732
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: who they are. When the mic is off or in

733
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: the boardroom, that coaches blame the player to the owners show,

734
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: that player is gonna that that coach, that coach is

735
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: gonna say, well I told him to run a slant. No, coach,

736
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 1: he's never your fault. It's never the guy's fault. Yes,

737
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: and so that doesn't work. Yeah, And that's that's that

738
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: that's what can happen. And it does happen, right, It

739
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: happens to players right when players have all answers. So

740
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: if you can collaboratively talk and be cohesive and yes,

741
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: tell me, hey, we're not gonna do it this time,

742
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: but let's do it this other time, and you make

743
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: that player feel like you're listening, it's gonna be fantastic.

744
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: It's gonna be an awesome relationship. Great to see you, man,

745
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming. Anyway, We've had you on the show

746
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: a while back, because I think it was back keeping

747
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 1: me for BEHOVID two years before. Yeah, so it's good

748
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: to see you back. It's good. It's always good to

749
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: see you. Thanks for the time. We really appreciate. I

750
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: know you got a busy schedule, so well, appreciate your

751
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: carving out some time for us. Appreciate it. Safe travels

752
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 1: back home, all right, and good luck. It's excited watching guys.

753
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: That's NFL network analyst Steve Smith joining us here on

754
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. We're back with more in a moment.

755
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: We'll see. In two minutes, Steve and I discuss the

756
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: retirement of Ryan Fitzpatrick after seventeen years in the NFL.

757
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 1: Steve's like, that's a guy you gotta get on TV. Well,

758
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: apparently the wheels are already in motion on that NFL Networks.

759
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport says, according to his sources, he's already Brian

760
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick is already in talks with Amazon for a key

761
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: role this season, presumably in the broadcasting realm. So we'll

762
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: be seeing plenty of fits going forward Amazon, as you know,

763
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: as the Thursday Night package on their streaming service, so

764
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: we shall see. Yeah, he's he's built for it, perfect

765
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: for a great sense. Yeah, he's he's and he knows.

766
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: The game widely beloved by people who watch the game,

767
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: even opponents and stuff. So yeah, it'll be good to see.

768
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: And well, if if that happens, then he'll be on

769
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: the Thursday night opening game, LA Rams hosting the Buffalo Bills.

770
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: Now do they get that game? I guess they do,

771
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: but I think so would it just be? I have

772
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: no idea. I can't would it just be? Because I

773
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: know even on those streaming service games, the game is

774
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: broadcast locally to the home and away television markets, namely

775
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: LA and Buffalo in this case, um, they do broadcast

776
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,959
Speaker 1: them on regular over the air television. Yeah, it says,

777
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: you know, Thursday Night Football on Amazon on on primetime, okay,

778
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: primetime video. Well there you go. Then, well no, I

779
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: think it's going to be on NBC at the kick

780
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: off the exclusive Thursday Night Football Prime Video, the exclusive

781
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 1: home of Thursday Night Football, opening September fifteenth. Yeah, so

782
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: it's the week after we get the kickoff games. The

783
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: kickoff game to be in the Bills and the Rams

784
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: will be on NBC. The Thursday night games after that

785
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: will be on Amazon. So I don't so even the

786
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: Bills Thanksgiving Day game, even though it's on a Thursday,

787
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: that's gonna be on CBS. So the Bills played on

788
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: Thursday twice this year, but neither of those games will

789
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: be on Amazon, right, So but hey, you got Amazon Prime,

790
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: you got a subscription, you got to go. You can.

791
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: You'll probably be watching fits in the booth in some

792
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: capacity in the studio, or maybe in the studio that

793
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: maybe a better spot for him to begin, but yeah,

794
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: no question it'll be. He'll be in there. It's a

795
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: great movement. We you know, we called it before we

796
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: even knew this was gonna happen, so yeah, yeah, yeah,

797
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 1: look at you. Yeah, we we remember the running back

798
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: that was talked about last year. Steve a lot in

799
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: the draft, even a running back that the Bills could

800
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: be interested in. And in the end, he goes ahead

801
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: of the Bills on the board in Round one to

802
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:17,280
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars Travis Etn. Then he has a terrible

803
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: preseason foot injury misses the entire rookie season. He is back,

804
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: and according to Jaguars reporters, he looks like his old

805
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 1: self from an explosiveness standpoint. Now, this was a dynamic

806
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: back who could run catch the football. I mean, I mean,

807
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: he rolled up a ton of production at Clemson. Now

808
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: he's back with his college quarterback in the offensive backfield

809
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars. It'd be really interesting to see what

810
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: he can provide for them from a versatility standpoint. You know,

811
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: everybody here is excited about James Cook and Buffalo, and

812
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: with good reason, as the players can't say enough about him.

813
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: But ETN is going to be an interesting addition offense too.

814
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think anybody thinks the Jaguars are

815
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: really going anywhere, but maybe they could be a seven

816
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: win team potentially. Well, Trevor Lawrence is gonna make a

817
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: step forward. With Doug Peterson coach. Atn's gonna help him

818
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 1: do that, people by giving him a viable option that

819
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: not so much that whether ATN can catch or run

820
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: or what all of that, but at least it's one

821
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: more weapon that the defense has to think about other

822
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: than Trevor Lawrence. So m it'll help him in at

823
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: least in that regard. So yeah, and and think about it,

824
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: it's a top draft pick that you haven't had that

825
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: you get. Yeah, like out of the get drops. It's

826
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: like Manna from heaven. He just drops down. It's like

827
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: an extra first round pick that you get you should

828
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: have gotten last year, but she didn't, So this year

829
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:54,919
Speaker 1: you get that little boost. Good for them, and they're

830
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: in a division that you know, you look at. Tennessee

831
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: seems to have taken step back after being the one

832
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: seed last year. Lost some players, and the Houston Texans

833
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: still continue to rebuild. The Indianapolis Colts seemed to be

834
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: the team they have to worry about. So but the

835
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: Jaguars have got to think at least against the other

836
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: two teams in their division aside from the Colts, they

837
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: got a shot at those guys, and you split with

838
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: the Colts if you can, which, by the way, why

839
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: not because the Colts have never won and haven't won

840
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville in like a decade. I don't know what

841
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: I mean. It's some unbelievable number that the Colts just

842
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: can't get a game one in Jacksonville. So you got

843
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: that going for you. Yeah, they could make a run

844
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: at it, but they've got you know, obviously, they've got

845
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: win some games outside of their division as well. The

846
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: quote from Travis Etn that raised eyebrows was he said quote.

847
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: If I could be like Deebo Samuel in terms of

848
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: a role, I would love that. So he obviously thinks

849
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: he's going to be a big part of the Jacksonville offers,

850
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: or at least thinks the chance exists. Yeah, whether or

851
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: not it comes to fruition, we shall see. We have

852
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: to take a break here because when we come back,

853
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: we will be joined by the man who calls games

854
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: with John Murphy on the Bills Radio Network. He was

855
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: here taking in practice today on a visit Eric Wood,

856
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 1: who will also have some comments, undoubtedly on the recent

857
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 1: announcement that Ryan Fitzpatrick is calling it a career in

858
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: the NFL. We'll talk to Eric next here on One

859
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Kalid to Health. It's Buffalo Bill's

860
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: Radio at a Steve Tasker who has spent all of

861
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: our fields kind of unique. He was kind of a

862
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: dual role player for you, st Steve a blimp. We're

863
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: not even in the strategere of normalcy here, all right?

864
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: Ere we go reving up for hour number two. Chris Brown,

865
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you, and please to be joined now

866
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: by the color commentator from the Bill's Radio Network. Getting

867
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: some early homework done on the new roster. Here in

868
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, it is Eric Wood joining us on

869
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: the show. Eric, Good to have you and boys. Your

870
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: appearance timely with the unexpected, at least from us outsiders

871
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: that don't talk to fits on a regular basis, that

872
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: he is in fact calling it a career after seventeen

873
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 1: years in the NFL. But you kind of had an

874
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 1: idea this was coming down the pike. I did, and

875
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,959
Speaker 1: that was from some conversations that we've had for a while,

876
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 1: you know, And there's been years in the past where

877
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: you know, when you're getting up there in age and

878
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: you're shuffling your family around, you have seven kids. When

879
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: you're shuffling a family of nine around over and over

880
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: to different cities. One, it's not easy. First and foremost,

881
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: it's not easy to find a house for a family

882
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: that size where you're comfortable and you know, you don't

883
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: you know, the kids aren't going to all of a

884
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 1: sudden all start triple bunking up in rooms and then

885
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: moving your kids the different schools and all that. I

886
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: remember when he was down in Miami during the COVID

887
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,240
Speaker 1: year down in Miami, his family couldn't really be around

888
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: him anyway. So they stayed in Tampa, and that was

889
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: the first time his son had gone to school. His

890
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: oldest son had gone to school for three consecutive years

891
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,919
Speaker 1: at any school his entire life, and he's going into

892
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: high school and so it became tougher and tougher. But

893
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: he did say over and over over the past few years,

894
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: his oldest tour boys, and he said, you know, Brady

895
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: and Tate think it's so cool that dad plays football

896
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: now and they love coming to the games. That it's

897
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 1: gonna be hard to quit too. You know, as hard

898
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: as it is to keep moved, that moving them the

899
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: train off was still hard, yes, and so you know,

900
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 1: a tough decision. And he you know, he's at peace

901
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: with it now and I'm excited to see what's next

902
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: for him. Yeah, we've also it's also being reported he's

903
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 1: in talks with Amazon to be part of the thirty

904
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: Thursday night football broadcast as well. Last time Bill's fans

905
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: saw him, he spoke about it. A moment ago was

906
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: the the playoff game, and he stopped in the booth.

907
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: He stopped in the booth and then he ends up

908
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: shirtless in the stands with his with his and I

909
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: get it. I mean I got older guys too. You

910
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: do stuff with your sons like their friends rather than

911
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 1: their kids. And he's got his shirt off with the

912
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: best part is he still had his gloves up. Yeah right, great,

913
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: Well I've said it. If you keep your head, your hands,

914
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: and your feet warm, you can yeah, the rest of

915
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: it's okay. Yeah, that was something else though. That was

916
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 1: the last time we saw him, And obviously, um, it's

917
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: kind of nice to see that he has fond memories

918
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: for the franchise and for being his time here in Buffalo.

919
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: Oh he's yeah, he's always spoke so fondly this. They

920
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 1: made lifelong friends up here. They lived in a neighborhood

921
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: out in lake View and they're still extremely close with

922
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: all their neighbors. They were with neighbor old neighbors at

923
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: this game, and um, yeah, so for this game. Fitz

924
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: texts me earlier in the week, Hey, I'm gonna bring

925
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: take to the game this week. I said, oh perfect,

926
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: I'll you know, you guys can literally come in the

927
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: booth with us and watch it from the back and

928
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 1: no one will bug you. Do you need you know,

929
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: police escort? I mean, he was a starting quarterback Week

930
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: one for the Washington football team last year. Like, and

931
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: he's very, very famous, and he's also recovering from a

932
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,399
Speaker 1: hip injury. So I'm trying to roll out the red

933
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: card before him. He said, Nope, we're good. I said, well,

934
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: I have my club seats. Do you want those? No,

935
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: you're good. I'll just scoop him up online. I'm like, dude,

936
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: let me help in some sort of way. And then

937
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: he and then he ends up with his shirt off

938
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: in the stands and all that and didn't need the help.

939
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: Thanks anyway, though, I'd rather go shirtless. For those that,

940
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: you know, Bills fans only kind of know him at

941
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: an arm's length, Yeah, they you know, they remember hearing

942
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 1: him in interviews every week talking about the upcoming game

943
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: and everything. But for the Bills fans that maybe don't

944
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: know him like you do, can you describe his sense

945
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: of humor? Because it is one of a kind sense

946
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: of humor. And I mean, people love fits anyway. I

947
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: think they'd love him even more if they knew his

948
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: sense of humor. Well, And he started showing that a

949
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: little bit later in his career. He didn't show it

950
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: as much early in his career, which I respect about him.

951
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: He kind of lives by that old school mentality, like

952
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: until you've done something in this league, you know, we

953
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 1: don't really want to hear or see from you a

954
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: whole lot. But he could. He could have really put

955
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: himself on notice around the league early on. He's just

956
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: so smart, he's so witty. He'll specialize in some cross

957
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: the line childish games at times, but he's just a

958
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: ton of fun to be around. And he's such a

959
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: genuinely good person that every person in the locker room

960
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: loves him, so no one's off limits. You know, he's

961
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: he was a ton of fun to play with. We

962
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: used to do this deal on Fridays because when you

963
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: have he didn't have seven kids when he was here.

964
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: I believe he had four, but he still has a

965
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: lot of young kids. And you know, as a quarterback,

966
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: you put in so many hours of the facility, so

967
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 1: we didn't get to see fits outside of the facility

968
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: a whole lot. But on Fridays, after our shorter day

969
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 1: on Friday, we would go out to eat. Every week,

970
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: we end up stumbling upon Uncle Joe's Diner on Southwestern. Yeah,

971
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 1: so we go there to this diner and then if

972
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 1: we won, whoever bought the previous week had to buy

973
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: it again the next week. And it fits his words,

974
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: you had to step it up, so you had to

975
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: order something extra. Well. We start in twenty twelve, twenty twelve,

976
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: twenty eleven, we start the season pretty high. When we

977
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 1: start three and oh well that was four games in

978
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: a row. We had to continue step it up. When

979
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,959
Speaker 1: I tell you we had more breakfast in lunch food

980
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 1: on a table of six offensive linemen. Maybe a tight

981
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: end in Fitzpatrick. I mean we used to just we

982
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 1: would cry laughing at each other's orders. And it's that's

983
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: why I say, like some childish humor, he's got the

984
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,479
Speaker 1: left side of the menu. Eventually, Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah,

985
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. And he was, I mean he was always

986
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: a major tech dude. I remember going in the locker room.

987
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: He always had like the newest thing he's pulling out

988
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: of a box from the Apple Store or whatever. And

989
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: has that ever changed or is he just he's not

990
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: like a huge tech guy. He just loves like Apple products. Yeah.

991
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: And so being in Bassador, well, I mean when the

992
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: iPad first came out, he gifted me my first iPad

993
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: immediately because he thought it was cool that he could

994
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 1: find him and he got a few of us an

995
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: iPad just as a gift. Yeah. Crazy. Now now that

996
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: you're back, you've had a chance to go out watch practice,

997
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: You've kept track of the Bills in the offseason, and

998
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts, you know, headed into this offseason

999
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: training camps, you know, thirty five forty days away, and

1000
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: you've got this new roster that's starting to take shape.

1001
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: We've we've struggled to pump the brakes on how good

1002
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: the offense is going to be, right because the new

1003
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: skill set, the upgrade the offensive lineman they brought in.

1004
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: They brought two starters from the Tennessee offensive line that

1005
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: was the number one seed last year, with this running

1006
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,439
Speaker 1: game that they had. We got two of their guys

1007
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: plus the guys we had last year, plus the new

1008
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: running black, plus the new slot receipt. You know, it

1009
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: goes on and on. What are your thoughts about how

1010
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: you know, so you know, talk us off the ledge

1011
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: here from just you know, betting the mortgage on. Yeah,

1012
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: it's going yeah, and we could we could continue to

1013
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: go down the list, but then you also add a

1014
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: better blocking tight end more of a physical presence in

1015
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: the run game and O J. Howard, you know, it

1016
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: just goes across the board and then you bring all

1017
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: back all the usual suspects on offense as well. And

1018
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,919
Speaker 1: I mean, the only thing that you could possibly see

1019
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: is maybe causing some preseason or early season issues, maybe

1020
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: the defense gets a faster start on camp would be

1021
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: the fact that they have a new offensive coordinator. What's

1022
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: going to be difference different about this offense and schematically,

1023
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: I don't think Ken Dorsey is going to come in

1024
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: here and do anything a whole lot different in my opinion,

1025
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: from just the blind I shouldn't even say a blind

1026
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: eye for a fan, someone who's not in their meetings

1027
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: on a day to day basis, it's probably gonna look

1028
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: a lot like what we saw last year. I think

1029
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: is Josh Allen gets older and order older, you'll see

1030
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: less designed quarterback runs, and that's a natural progression. I

1031
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 1: don't think that's just simply a Ken Dorsey thing. And

1032
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,959
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to over expose Josh either.

1033
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: Spend time in Carolina with Cam Newton. He understands what

1034
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: continuous blows the quarterback position can do to his longevity.

1035
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 1: What do you think about because Steve and I had

1036
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: talked about this. If you look at his weapons in

1037
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 1: the passing game this year, and this is no knock

1038
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: on who was here last year or even the year before,

1039
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,439
Speaker 1: but Josh for the most part has been a put

1040
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: it on you kind of quarterback and puts it on

1041
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: the guy. I know Josh wanted to work this offseason

1042
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: on throwing more guys open to lend to more yards

1043
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 1: after the catch. You would also appear that the talent

1044
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 1: that he has at his disposal now has a greater

1045
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: skill set of getting yards after the catch. I think,

1046
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I loved Beasley, but Crowder seems to be

1047
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: a better YAC guy than Beasley was. And Davis has

1048
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,439
Speaker 1: never had a full time role, but certainly as yards

1049
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: after the catch ability. And then you have O. J. Howard,

1050
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 1: who it was a little bit of a question mark

1051
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: just because he hasn't had the opportunity to do it

1052
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: getting buried on the depth chard in Tampa. And then

1053
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: James Cook out of the backfield. I mean, the guy

1054
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: average almost twelve yards of reception in Georgia the last

1055
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 1: two years. Do you think that the offense could look

1056
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 1: differently because the ball might be out of Josh's hand

1057
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: quicker this year instead of all these downfield throws. Yeah, potentially,

1058
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: And how great does it feel? As you were phrasing

1059
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: that question, I was just thinking to myself, like how

1060
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Speaker 1: great it is that we have a quarterback that we're nitpicking,

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01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: like one specific thing that he is trying to improve

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01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: about his game, and not like, hey, he needs to

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01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: become more accurate like just a general term, or he's

1064
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 1: got to make more plays or throw less interception. It's like, no,

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Speaker 1: I want to start throwing guys open more to get

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01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: more yards after the catch. I think that's part of

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01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: the reason you bring in a crowder is to get

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01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: those yards after the catch. James Cook as well, Dawson

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01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: Knox has been excellent after the catch ever since he

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01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: got here. Digs as well. And then and like you said,

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Speaker 1: the second half of the season last year, Gabe Davis

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01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: was outstanding. And I think you gained so much confidence

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01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: from doing it on such a big stage in the

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Speaker 1: playoffs last year. If you're Gabe Davis and I saw

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Speaker 1: him out of practice, he looks awesome. It looks like

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01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: he's added some weight too to his shoulders and chest

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01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 1: areas like he's added some lean muscle mass. He looks stronger. Yeah, potentially,

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01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 1: And but I haven't got to see him without pads on.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is the first time I've been back

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01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: in the facility, first time I've been able to go

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01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 1: out to practice since uh pre COVID, which Gabe Davis

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01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 1: was drafted in. Yeah, yeah, so I've been I've never

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01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: seen him without pads on. Yeah. The one of the

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01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: things that you can speak to probably better than anybody,

1085
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 1: is the fact that Eric Crome Chrome Aaron Kromer is

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01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 1: back in as the offensive line coach. Plus and we

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01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: were laughing. We had a chance to touch base with him.

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01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 1: He's got a room full of guys that are six

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01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: eight and he's never coached a guy that was six

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01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: eight before he got here. So, um, new offensive line coach,

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01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: new faces, and there's gonna be some competition up front.

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01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: Some of these guys are gonna play and they're new

1093
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 1: Spencer Brown, Dion Dawkins, Mitch Morse, Saffled Kesson, Berry, Bates.

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01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: There's some guys in there that have some reason to

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01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 1: believe they they're gonna get some reps. And not all

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01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: of them can Aaron Cromer, Ken Dorsey. Everything's new on

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01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 1: that side of the ball, but those guys up front

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01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: really have to have it together. How long is it

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01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 1: gonna take and how tough is it gonna be for

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Speaker 1: that group to get it together to complement what Josh

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01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 1: and all these skilled guys we're talking about. Probably not

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Speaker 1: as long as you think. And part of that is

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01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 1: the continuity up front. You're you're really just plugging in

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01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: Saffle to that starting lineup. Assuming Spencer Brown is healthy,

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01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 1: good to go during training camp and he hits the

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01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: ground running like he did last year, I would assume

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01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: he's going to be your starting right tackle. Questenberry gives

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01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 1: you the flexibility to be that swing tackle. I don't

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01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 1: know that we want Spencer Brown at left tackle yet,

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01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,919
Speaker 1: so you plug him in at right. Is Tommy Doyle

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01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: going to be that six offensive lineman that comes in

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01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: because day Ball ran a lot of offensive lineman at

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01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 1: tight end. I would assume we would see some of

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01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: that this year from Ken Dorsey, which is great because

1115
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 1: it's kind of twofold because it gives you an extra

1116
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: blocker on the field, but you're also kind of grooming

1117
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 1: and giving experience to another offensive lineman in case he

1118
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 1: needs to come off the bench. All that being said, yeah,

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01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 1: I think they'll hit the ground running pretty pretty seamlessly.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Aaron Cromer came in and there wasn't a

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01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: ton of adjustment period that first year he came in

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01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: to our squad. We led the league in rushing. I

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Speaker 1: understand that was a new, completely new regime. We had

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Speaker 1: Greg Roman as our offensive coordinator. But we hit the

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Speaker 1: ground running pretty quickly. And when you have veteran guys,

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01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys with experience upfront, don't I

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01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 1: don't think there's gonna be a huge adjustment period there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: class when I got for you concerns Chromer. Also, you know,

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01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 1: people keep asking, well, well, what kind of what kind

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01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 1: of scheme is he gonna push forward with Dorsey and

1131
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: this then the other I was like, he ain't the

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01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 1: coordinator number one and number two. He's been around along.

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01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 1: He's run just about everything anyway, rather it's gap or

1134
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: outside I mean run everything, right, Yeah, absolutely, you know

1135
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 1: it was primarily outside zone when he was with McVeigh.

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01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 1: But you go back to his time here under Greg Roman,

1137
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 1: and it was a very mixed diverse run scheme. We

1138
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 1: had every run you could possibly draw on a piece

1139
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: of paper. And then he spent time with Sean Payton.

1140
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 1: They're very similar in that too, a lot of different draws,

1141
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 1: more based off the pass game. Coming out of New Orleans,

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01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 1: he spent time with Gruden, So he's been around so

1143
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:31,479
Speaker 1: many different schemes. It's not he's not married to any

1144
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: scheme in particular. Now, he does have a ton of

1145
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 1: experience in this league where he can provide some insight,

1146
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:40,959
Speaker 1: especially to a first time play caller. And if Ken's

1147
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 1: up in the booth, maybe Aaron Cromer is kind of

1148
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 1: his voice from the sideline up to the booth. But

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01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 1: I would not when he's coming in. He's not bringing

1150
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: brought in as a run game corner. He's not being

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01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: brought in to change the scheme up. He's here to

1152
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 1: coach the guys to give the most out the potential.

1153
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm honestly excited to see a guy like Cody Ford

1154
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 1: with a fresh start. And this is no knock on

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01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 1: anybody else, but Aaron Cromer is the best fundamentals teacher

1156
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 1: I was ever around. And what made him so good

1157
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 1: when he was so individualized with guys. You know, Richie

1158
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: Oncognito is gonna do different things than a John Miller.

1159
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: Jordan Mill is going to do different things than a

1160
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 1: Cordy Glenn. They're just different players. They have different skill

1161
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 1: sets and what they did on film look different at times.

1162
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: And so I'm excited to see if maybe a fresh

1163
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: start with Cody Ford, maybe some different techniques to try

1164
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 1: might help him out of here. So he would cater

1165
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 1: specific techniques to specific guys absolutely and matchups. You know,

1166
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 1: there might be a defensive end that's very good if

1167
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 1: you give them space, well, we might just jumps at

1168
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 1: him the whole game. You know, the tackles getting on

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01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: him right away. You know, you might have a defensive

1170
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 1: tackle that can run you over. Okay, well we're not

1171
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 1: going to retreat back. This guy could just blow you know,

1172
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 1: then you're two steps away from the quarterback. We can't

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01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 1: stop him anyway. In Vice, and we always used to

1174
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 1: joke about Corty Glenn. Corty Glenn could give someone as

1175
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 1: much space as they want to. He was so athletic

1176
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 1: and so big. They can't run him over, and it's

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01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 1: essentially just walling him off like a basketball play well,

1178
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 1: Corty Glenn, Okay, you're gonna step back well, Jordan Mills

1179
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 1: does not have that capability. Got to do different things.

1180
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 1: And that's where I thought Kromer was just you know,

1181
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 1: he learned under some of the best Bill Callahan, Howard Mud,

1182
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 1: Jim McNally to where he learned enough different schemes, similar

1183
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 1: to being Withdrew and all these different guys that you

1184
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 1: learn how to coach different players. Last one, for me,

1185
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 1: what's most the most intriguing thing for you is training

1186
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: camp kicks off here in a month or two. You know,

1187
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what elm can bring to the table,

1188
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 1: especially when you put on pads. He's a physical guy

1189
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 1: on the outside. I think Ota would be great for

1190
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 1: him because he learns to play in space without using

1191
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 1: his hands and without the contact. But a guy like him,

1192
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 1: especially if Trey Whyte can come back fully healthy when

1193
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 1: we put those pads on, if he shows up in

1194
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 1: a big way, that gives McDermott a lot of flex

1195
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 1: and Leslie Fraser a lot of flexibility on that side

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01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 1: of the ball. I'm excited to see the pass rush

1197
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 1: this year and Chris, we talked about it. You know,

1198
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 1: you can give me crap about that. I am generally

1199
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: a glass half full type of broadcaster. It's usually always rosy.

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01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: I don't get paid enough to come out here and

1201
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 1: make a bunch of enemies. But I but I thought

1202
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 1: my biggest critique on the team last year was their

1203
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 1: inability and obvious pass rush situations to get home to

1204
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: the quarterback. And a four man rush, you know, it's

1205
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 1: one thing on first and ten. If you don't know

1206
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 1: if it's a runner a pass, you know, it becomes

1207
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 1: more difficult. I mean, there was just there was just

1208
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 1: too many third and tens last year with a four

1209
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 1: man rush where the quarterback had too much time. And

1210
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 1: now you're great on the back end of the defense

1211
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 1: and you have the number one pass defense in the NFL.

1212
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 1: Just not getting home on a consistent basis. Well, you

1213
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 1: bring in a von Miller, you bring back a Shack Loss,

1214
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: and you have some interior guys that can really rush

1215
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 1: the passer. And then you have Rousseau Epanessa. Your top

1216
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 1: two draft picks from previous dress Boogie Basham who looks

1217
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 1: he looks like he's transformed by Yeah he's different. Yeah, yeah,

1218
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 1: he got the Eric Siano treatment this offseason where they

1219
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 1: give a lot of individualized attention and diet nutrition advice

1220
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 1: and that, and that happens in this league, you know. Yeah,

1221
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 1: you get guys who get it, apply it, and have

1222
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 1: the discipline, self discipline, in the desire to get it done.

1223
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 1: And the Boogie walked in and I was like, wow, yeah,

1224
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 1: he looks different, right, And he changed his number too,

1225
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 1: so he really looks different. You know, you look like

1226
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 1: a better athlete wearing a fifties number than you do

1227
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 1: a nineties maybe, but but I'm excited to see what

1228
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,560
Speaker 1: the pass rush can do this year. Like I I

1229
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:37,959
Speaker 1: there wasn't a whole lot stopping us from a Lombardi

1230
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 1: last year, except for some communication breakdowns in thirteen seconds.

1231
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 1: You know, we're we're the Super Bowl favorites. You win

1232
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 1: that game and you have the Game one, you had

1233
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 1: a pass rush, I consistent pass rush of that and

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01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 1: who look out, Yeah we're on a number one defense.

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01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, as we sit here and Niptick the number

1236
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 1: one defense and all the unbelievable. Yeah, Eric, thanks for

1237
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 1: stopping by. Safe travels home. When you do head back,

1238
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll see a lot of you, at least

1239
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 1: periodically out of training camp this summer. Right, you're gonna

1240
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 1: get out to Fisher a couple of times. I'm gonna

1241
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 1: try to, especially if I can get an okill invite

1242
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 1: from somebody. Oh look at that, throwing that out very

1243
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 1: loosely there at the nicely play. Yeah, all right, thanks much. Eric.

1244
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 1: We'll catch up with Eric would here on One Bills Live.

1245
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 1: We'll take a break, be back from more in a second.

1246
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 1: We'll see in a few minutes. All right, welcome back

1247
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,640
Speaker 1: to One Bills Live. Ursund Steve Cask who with you.

1248
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:44,719
Speaker 1: Good to catch up with Eric there, and he mentioned something,

1249
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 1: Steve that perched my ears up a little bit. You know,

1250
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:53,640
Speaker 1: Kaier Elam in this setting at this point in the

1251
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 1: off season, no pads, you know, it's just helmets, not

1252
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 1: a lot of contact. You haven't really seen him fly

1253
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: ash a whole lot. But then Eric reminded me, you know,

1254
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:07,560
Speaker 1: Elam is probably going to show up more when the

1255
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 1: pads go on in training camp because he does play

1256
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 1: with a physical style, likes to be in the face

1257
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 1: of the receivers. You know, obviously the play call has

1258
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 1: to be pressed, but I think when the pads go on,

1259
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna notice Elam more on the field. Yeah, I

1260
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 1: would agree on that's his background, but he usually happens

1261
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 1: and you get into training camp, the defense is always

1262
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 1: ahead of the offense because the offense has to be

1263
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:33,639
Speaker 1: so finely corey graphed by all eleven guys, and on defense,

1264
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 1: all you need to one guy to make a play.

1265
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 1: Everybody else could stink right, so your pass rush you

1266
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 1: could not get there. Your guys could drop the wrong guy,

1267
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 1: could leave a guy wide open, and the quarterback decides

1268
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 1: to throw it to the to a guy who's covered

1269
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 1: or somebody he throws the guy who thinks is open

1270
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 1: and a guy makes a great play and knocks it

1271
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 1: down or whatever. So the defense is always ahead of

1272
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 1: the offense. When he hit training camp and guys like

1273
01:10:56,280 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 1: Kayer Elam I think it's gonna be really interesting to

1274
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 1: watch him, because you're right, he's he's gifted physically, and

1275
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 1: it's physically it's less demanding to play this man off.

1276
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: Zone coverage kind of stuff that you know where you

1277
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 1: only you guard a little area of the field, and

1278
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 1: you recognize route combinations and you know where the offense

1279
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 1: is trying to attack, and you kind of slough off

1280
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 1: and you can kind of just feel the coverage. It's

1281
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 1: physically demanding to play up in a guy's face and

1282
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 1: run with these elite athletes. Elam's good at that, the

1283
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 1: physical part of it and the difficult part of it.

1284
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:34,639
Speaker 1: He seems to have it. I want to watch him

1285
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 1: do that. I want to watch because here's the thing, Brownie,

1286
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 1: you get in a training camp, and Leslie Frasier's watching

1287
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 1: Tradavious White and Kyer Elam and guys are having a

1288
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 1: hard time getting open on them man to man and

1289
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 1: Taren Johnson. So Leslie Sin, They're going, you know, we may,

1290
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 1: we may getting people's faces. You know, we got this

1291
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 1: pass rush now, and let's send an extra guy because

1292
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 1: we don't need Matt Milana where we don't need Tremaine

1293
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:10,680
Speaker 1: Edmonds dropping into coverage. And we got Milano covering a

1294
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 1: guy one on one and all three corners doing a

1295
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 1: great job with two safeties dropping in to poach everything

1296
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 1: that's in there. Our corners are really good. We're gonna

1297
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 1: use them. And all of a sudden, you turn into

1298
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 1: a more aggressive, aggressively nature defense. You know, I've heard,

1299
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 1: I've said it to you a ton. The defense was

1300
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 1: number one in the league last year. But let's face it,

1301
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 1: it wasn't like they were spectacular, you know what I mean? Oh,

1302
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:39,639
Speaker 1: I agree. They weren't like getting four sacks a game.

1303
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:41,679
Speaker 1: You know, they weren't they were getting four sacks a game,

1304
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 1: and they weren't getting seven turnovers a game. And they

1305
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 1: weren't like getting these huge hits and knocking the quarterback down.

1306
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 1: They were just tough to move it on. It was like,

1307
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 1: you know, it's like it was like pushing against the

1308
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 1: They just wouldn't you know, it's just hard to move

1309
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 1: and teams would drop a pass on third down. Okay,

1310
01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 1: they're gonna punt. It was never a spectacular day defense,

1311
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 1: but they were number one statistically. They were hard, they

1312
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:05,600
Speaker 1: were highly efficient. But if you get a guy like

1313
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 1: kyr elam and gives you that one ability to level

1314
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 1: up in the back end even above how good they

1315
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 1: have been over the last five years with a pass

1316
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 1: rush that is a little bit bolstered by the ability

1317
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 1: and the willingness to send an extra guy with better

1318
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:22,719
Speaker 1: pass rushers in front of him. Anyway, all of a sudden,

1319
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 1: this defense starts churning out turnovers, and now you do

1320
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 1: have a spectacular defense because a guy like kyr Elam

1321
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:33,680
Speaker 1: just mixes in and allows you to just level up

1322
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 1: on the outside and change your philosophy just to hair

1323
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 1: And at the very least, if not change your philosophy,

1324
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 1: change your play calling, because right, you're gonna be more

1325
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 1: apt to go that way and defend that way and

1326
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 1: challenge offense is a little bit more. And why do

1327
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 1: you feel you can do that? Not only because of

1328
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 1: the abilities of White, Elam and Johnson, but because the

1329
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 1: pass rush you mentioned, you got von Miller coming off

1330
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 1: the edge. Chances are the quarterback isn't gonna have a

1331
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 1: whole lot more than two and a half seconds on

1332
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 1: an obvious passing down, which is what Eric was just

1333
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 1: talking about. As if there was one problem this defense

1334
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 1: had last year, it was getting home in obvious passing

1335
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 1: situations when they only rushed for right. And what happens

1336
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 1: is and we can all you can all see it

1337
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 1: if you if you watch football, you know that the

1338
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 1: guy drops back, looks and the balls out if he

1339
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 1: drops back looks and then has to pull the ball

1340
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 1: back down and look to his second receiver and then

1341
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 1: put the ball up and start to throw it again.

1342
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 1: By that time he's on the ground. If he doesn't

1343
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 1: have that first option and the second option makes him hesitate,

1344
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 1: you know, he's got to be on the ground. And

1345
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 1: that has not been the case often enough for this defense. Certainly,

1346
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 1: the Bill's secondary has forced a quarterback to you know,

1347
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:49,680
Speaker 1: go to his second choice, but he's had time to

1348
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 1: get there. That may not be the case as much

1349
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 1: or as often this year. And yeah, with poor year

1350
01:14:57,360 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 1: and hide back there as well. You got that's a

1351
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 1: crew man. That's a crew And I'm really excited that

1352
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 1: they got a guy another guy. Let's face it, Kyer

1353
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 1: Elam is a guy along the lines of Tredevious White.

1354
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 1: You got two of them now, um, and I I

1355
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 1: am fully confident in Tredevious White's ability to come back

1356
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 1: and play. Now. He may not feel like he's one

1357
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 1: hundred percent, but I'm telling you he's gonna he's gonna

1358
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 1: play very well. He's six months removed from the injury.

1359
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 1: I believe he's five months removed from surgery. So they

1360
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:35,639
Speaker 1: say seven to nine is the rehab time and they'll

1361
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 1: have all the training camp to start to feel a

1362
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 1: little bit normal, to get the rust off. Yeah, good

1363
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 1: for him. He's here working every day. Yeah, I see him.

1364
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 1: We see him all the time. So he's you know,

1365
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 1: he seems to be on schedule. I mean, I don't know.

1366
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 1: We don't talk to him and he's busy and we're

1367
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,719
Speaker 1: not gonna go in and you know, I just passed

1368
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 1: him the other day and I I just says it

1369
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 1: going good. He's like, yep, I said, keep on trucking, man, Yeah,

1370
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 1: keep on tru And the history in the league and

1371
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 1: we've seen it in other places, guys do it. Guys

1372
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 1: can do that in a shorter amount of time than

1373
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:07,759
Speaker 1: it used to be. Used to be a full calendar

1374
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 1: year before the guy could even you know, and even

1375
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 1: the first year back sometimes not so much. Man, they've

1376
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 1: got it. They've got it dialed in pretty good on

1377
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 1: the ability to rehab these guys and do a better job.

1378
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm fully confident in Tradavious White's ability to

1379
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 1: come back and play very well and at a high level.

1380
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 1: And that's just gonna be big. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Um,

1381
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 1: what do we think about the collective speed at the

1382
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 1: skill positions on offense? We know Mackenzie was probably the

1383
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 1: fastest guy in the group, and he's obviously back in

1384
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 1: the fold. Crowder isn't slow. I don't think i'd call

1385
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:51,680
Speaker 1: him a burner necessarily. Cook is pretty damn fast, and

1386
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 1: we know that Oj Howard. I mean he looks like

1387
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 1: a like a giant out there. I mean he's like

1388
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:04,600
Speaker 1: an athletic bigot. He's intimidating. He can go up in

1389
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 1: line up against him. I mean broad shouldered, he's six

1390
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 1: five and change. Yeah, he's ready to run like a deer.

1391
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 1: He is a big dude who can really run long

1392
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 1: on I mean he's just huge. I'm just wondering if

1393
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 1: the offense, you could argue, is faster. Collectively, I think

1394
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 1: they might be a little more they were not. I

1395
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 1: don't think this offense, particularly because McKenzie didn't play that

1396
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 1: many snaps offensively, I don't think they were that fast.

1397
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 1: I don't. I would not con I would not have

1398
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 1: characterized the offense as a speedy offense last year. I

1399
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 1: think they've had a little more juice this year. I

1400
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 1: don't know if I call him a superior speed offense.

1401
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:45,680
Speaker 1: You know, there's probably faster offenses out there, but I

1402
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 1: think they've added some juice. Yeah, I can't say enough

1403
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 1: about how much Isaiah McKenzie enhanced, at least my opinion

1404
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 1: of him as a wide receiver last year in the

1405
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 1: in the opportunity that he has gotten over the past

1406
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 1: two years. When he gets in the game and they

1407
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 1: give him a lot of opportunity, he has come through

1408
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:09,639
Speaker 1: a lot for them. You think about the Patriot game

1409
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 1: in New England last year and other instances as well.

1410
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:18,560
Speaker 1: He is I'm surprised he's not on the field more offensively.

1411
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:20,640
Speaker 1: But if they're gonna put him on the field more offensively,

1412
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 1: it compromises his ability to return kicks as well. But

1413
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 1: you have Markus Stevenson to do that. Yeah, but they

1414
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 1: didn't use that. They didn't do that combination until they

1415
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 1: were forced to last year. And that's interesting to me.

1416
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 1: And we'll see how that plays out in training camp

1417
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:42,759
Speaker 1: and whether Isaiah McKenzie can make them. You know, second,

1418
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 1: you can have a second thought about not using him more,

1419
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 1: because that is another unknown as far as ken Dorsey

1420
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:54,560
Speaker 1: is concerned. You know what if the personnel grouping preferences

1421
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:59,599
Speaker 1: that he has winds up given McKenzie more opportunities because

1422
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 1: you know, maybe they're pulling a back off the field

1423
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:06,600
Speaker 1: more and he's on the field instead, or you know,

1424
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 1: maybe there aren't. They're gonna be tight end sets, as

1425
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:13,560
Speaker 1: everyone suspecting necessarily, and maybe it's McKenzie who's a beneficiary.

1426
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 1: You know that they're gonna have that on the menu,

1427
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 1: not that it has to be their main dish, but

1428
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:23,759
Speaker 1: they're gonna have Gilliam on the field as a fullback,

1429
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:28,800
Speaker 1: both tight ends on the field and and a wide out.

1430
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 1: And then they're gonna go the other direction and go

1431
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 1: five wides, you know, and empty backfield with Josh, or

1432
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna have and everything in between. They're gonna have

1433
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:40,720
Speaker 1: you know, Cook standing there next to Josh with four

1434
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 1: wides Cook and three wides in a tight end, you know,

1435
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 1: and Devin Singletary and Cook, and you know, all those

1436
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 1: combinations are going to be people and things on the

1437
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 1: menu that they're gonna use, and they're gonna have to

1438
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 1: figure out what's what they're good at, what they're best at,

1439
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:57,680
Speaker 1: what where they're vulnerable in each of those and which

1440
01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 1: is as important as anything we're it leaves you vulnerable

1441
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 1: if you put those different combinations out there. It's interesting,

1442
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 1: but I think it just seems like a gargantia and

1443
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 1: task and script through all those personnel combinations, when you've

1444
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 1: got such quality people at every spot, or at least

1445
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 1: seemingly quality people, I just don't And you asked Eric about,

1446
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 1: you know, the offensive line, and I mean, if it

1447
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 1: shakes out the way most people anticipated shaking out, Saffold's

1448
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 1: probably the only new piece. You probably have the four

1449
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 1: starters at the end of the season coming back in Dawkins, Brown,

1450
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 1: Bits and Morse. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if

1451
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:40,720
Speaker 1: Kessonbury gets a legitimate shot to go right tackle with

1452
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 1: Spencer Brown. I think it depends more on maybe's health

1453
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 1: maybe than anything else. Yeah, he'll be I think he'll

1454
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 1: be all right, He's but you know that's that's a

1455
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 1: question mark. What's is Tommy Doyle gonna have a step

1456
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 1: up year all these bits? Is he part of the conversation.

1457
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting, very interesting. I think Bates is probably

1458
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:06,679
Speaker 1: the right guard job. I think is his to lose,

1459
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 1: I really do. I mean, they just matched the offer

1460
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 1: sheet in Chicago that he signed, which was like four year,

1461
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 1: seventeen million dollars. Now, you're not breaking the bank at

1462
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 1: the guard position, but it's the heaviest investment at the position.

1463
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 1: I think on the roster right now because Ford's still

1464
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 1: on his rookie contract and Saffolds here on a one

1465
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:33,799
Speaker 1: year deal. So to me, it's the most heavily invested

1466
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 1: guard you have on your roster. I mean, you have

1467
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:38,560
Speaker 1: Greg Mann's here as a veteran, but he's on a

1468
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:42,600
Speaker 1: one year deal. So to me, I think Bates the

1469
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 1: right guard job is his to lose. Now. He could

1470
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 1: certainly lose it if he doesn't perform and he gets

1471
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 1: beat out by somebody else. But I would say that

1472
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 1: the four guys that finished last season are in line

1473
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 1: to start this season, and then you just have Saffold

1474
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Speaker 1: at left guard unless he's unseated by somebody else, but

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01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 1: I really don't anticipate that. So, yeah, I've got Bates, Saffold,

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01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 1: Jacob Capra right ike. Butker, that's it. Those are the

1477
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 1: you know Cody Ford is Yeah, I said Cody Ford.

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01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, Darryl Williams gone, but Saffold steps into Feliciano's gone,

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01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 1: So we'll see. It'll be very interesting to see how

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01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 1: that takes shape up there. And we've seen it before.

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01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:35,600
Speaker 1: This offense. This coaching staff never gives anything away, and

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01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 1: by that I mean playing playing time when they get

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01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 1: in there and start putting five guys out there. Certainly

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01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 1: they'll start with five guys and most probably the guys

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01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 1: that played to finished the season last year. But they'll

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01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 1: start plugging guys in and out at different spots and

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01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna find a great combination and whatever that is

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01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 1: is the one they'll go with. And even the guys

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01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 1: that are entrenched have to know that they have to

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01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 1: bring it every every practice, every season, every year they've

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01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 1: got them, they've got to earn it back. So it'll

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01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 1: be interesting to see how that goes this year. We

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01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 1: mentioned the possibility of Fits being on the Amazon broadcast

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01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 1: team for the Thursday night packages in some capacity. NFL Network,

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01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 1: seeing Rappaport is already reporting that Amazon is in talks

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01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 1: with Fitz, who essentially announced his retirement today from playing football.

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01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:29,639
Speaker 1: And the Bills have a pair of Thursday games, one

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01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 1: of them being Thanksgiving, but that's on CBS, and obviously

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01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 1: the season kickoff game, but that's on NBC. There is

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01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:38,400
Speaker 1: a chance there is a game, though, on the Bill

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01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:41,560
Speaker 1: schedule where they will be on Amazon. That's in week thirteen,

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01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 1: their December first game, what's that against Patriots in New England. Yeah, yeah,

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01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 1: in New England December first, yeah, week thirteen. Yeah, so

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01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 1: that is listed as an Amazon game, so that will

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01:23:56,880 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 1: be during the flex period, yes, but they play the

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01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 1: Lions on Thursday, and then they play one week later

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01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 1: on another Thursday, Yeah, against the Patriots. So at least

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01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:10,839
Speaker 1: they get But here's the thing too, they I mean, yeah, exactly,

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01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:12,640
Speaker 1: they could get a full week arrest if they push it,

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01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 1: and then ten days after that, right, they either get

1511
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:17,600
Speaker 1: if if they move the flex the Patriot game to

1512
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 1: like a Sunday, they would play Thursday at the Lions,

1513
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:23,240
Speaker 1: and then instead of playing the Thursday at the Patriots,

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01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 1: they would play the next Sunday, which would give them

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01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 1: ten days off and then they would have a regular

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01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:28,640
Speaker 1: week after that. I can't see them doing that to

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01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 1: Amazon in their first year as a broadcast partner, but

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01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 1: flexing them out of that, well, that's part of the deal.

1519
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 1: I mean, they may give them a better game, you know,

1520
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 1: ifs or if the Patriots are stinking, or if the

1521
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 1: yeah whatever, or if there's another game that's compelling that weekend,

1522
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 1: you know, in some other division. But yeah, there's always

1523
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 1: a possibility that they you know, they do that. I

1524
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 1: you're right, though it's impossible to say this from a

1525
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 1: million miles away on this side of it, but that's yeah.

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01:24:58,000 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 1: I think that's the only shot they've got to go

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01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 1: on Amazon. I forgot about that Amazon game. So that

1528
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 1: means they have six standalone games. They have the kickoff

1529
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 1: game the Monday, the Monday night game against the Titans,

1530
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:16,759
Speaker 1: and then they have the Sunday night game against the Packers,

1531
01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving against the Lions, Amazon game against the Patriots, and

1532
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 1: then is the Bengals, the Sunday night game, yet Monday

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01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:29,560
Speaker 1: night game, Monday night game, and then they also have

1534
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 1: a four pm game. Yeah. I don't really count that,

1535
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:38,679
Speaker 1: but so basically five primetime games, Thanksgiving Day and Thursday,

1536
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 1: Amazon against the Patriots. Holy crow. The entire country is

1537
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:44,639
Speaker 1: going to get them for about seven or eight games

1538
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 1: this year. Dang, because you get those four clock games.

1539
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 1: Forgot about the Amazon game being a standalone game. That's

1540
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 1: another one for them. Wow, they're a hot marquee ticket item. Man,

1541
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 1: is this where we're supposed to make a joke about

1542
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:03,639
Speaker 1: everybody wants to see Josh play footballs to the golf? Well,

1543
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 1: you said it, I'll let it go. Proud of him,

1544
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:09,920
Speaker 1: Proud of the guy. Man. I gotta tell you that

1545
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 1: took some guts to do that. Yeah, and he was

1546
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:14,760
Speaker 1: he was fourth rider. He goes, hey man, all right,

1547
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 1: Pat go Pat? Pat. Mahomes was doing great. Yeah, he's

1548
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 1: swilling down Coour's light while he was doing it too.

1549
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:23,880
Speaker 1: Did you see that? I did see? Goodness, gracious reminded

1550
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 1: me of some guys I played golf with. What what

1551
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 1: are you playing? A beer a hole? Right? That's a

1552
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 1: dangerous game. Yeah, be lucky to stand up and hit

1553
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 1: it by a whole twelve. Everything starts kicking in. All right,

1554
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 1: we gotta take a break. We're back with more in

1555
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 1: a second. Here on One Bills Live, presented by Collid

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01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 1: to Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, back here

1557
01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 1: on one Bills Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker. Let's go

1558
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 1: to the phones. We got Glenn and New Fame waiting

1559
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 1: for us. There. What do you have for us? Glenn?

1560
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:09,639
Speaker 1: You're on One Bill's Live. Yes, this good afternoon, guys.

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01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 1: First of all, listening to you guys talking about Ken

1562
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:18,679
Speaker 1: Dorsey and watching him on TV the last couple of days.

1563
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 1: First of all, he looks like the mad scientist guy

1564
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 1: next door that never comes out of the house. He man. I.

1565
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 1: With this new group of players, it just it opens

1566
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 1: up a lot of doors. I was thinking, k Gun,

1567
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'm wondering though about the timing

1568
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 1: of his playbook. Are the OTAs and training camp kind

1569
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:50,840
Speaker 1: of a time where you, if you're the coordinator, might

1570
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:54,679
Speaker 1: be watching and getting new ideas for what these guys

1571
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 1: can do, even during practice. I would answer yes, and

1572
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 1: Steve answers yes as well, and glad we got to

1573
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 1: go because we're almost off the show. But thanks for

1574
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:07,000
Speaker 1: the phone call. Yeah, this is the period of experimentation

1575
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:10,839
Speaker 1: here because think about it this way. While they've certainly

1576
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 1: signed a bunch of new free agents, they have a

1577
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 1: whole new sluid draft picks, and they have an idea

1578
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 1: of what they're capable of until they see it on

1579
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 1: the field in this offense with the other ten player

1580
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 1: ten players on the field with them. That's the only

1581
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:26,640
Speaker 1: time they know or can get a handle on what

1582
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 1: they can and cannot do. And then they need to

1583
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 1: see it in a live situation in the preseason or

1584
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 1: maybe even in the regular season before they make a

1585
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 1: call on something, and it's going to spawn new ideas, right,

1586
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 1: And Dorsey said when he sat down, I mentioned this

1587
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 1: when we were talking about what it meant. What he

1588
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:42,760
Speaker 1: said that this is fun. This is the fun time

1589
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 1: a year because they're getting to know their skill sets

1590
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 1: and getting to use them, and they be as creative

1591
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:49,600
Speaker 1: as they want. Because there's no scoreboard. Let's try to

1592
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:51,680
Speaker 1: see if it works. And they run a lot of

1593
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 1: things up the flagpole and some of them actually look

1594
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 1: pretty good. Yeah, so there are They are still very

1595
01:28:56,960 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 1: much in the formulation stages now. They're really only not

1596
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 1: refining everything that they install until they get to about

1597
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 1: the third week of camp, you know, right in there,

1598
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 1: right in and around there. That's when they start refining

1599
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 1: stuff and saying we're gonna use this, We're gonna use this,

1600
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:14,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna use this guy that way, that guy that way.

1601
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 1: It doesn't really round into form until probably mid August.

1602
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 1: All right, all right, that's it for us here today.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow at one