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<v Speaker 2>Oachol Lamar, Jackson Lee all players in initial Pro Bowl vote.

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<v Speaker 2>Lamar has received the most fanned Pro Bowl vote. Sabity

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<v Speaker 2>player Deck Henry is sickond. Next on the list it

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<v Speaker 2>is Sakwon Barkley. Third on the list is Josh Allen.

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<v Speaker 2>Fourth on the list your fourth on the list of

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Allen. So Lamar is one, Deck Henry's two, Sayque

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<v Speaker 2>is three, Josh Allen is four, and Jamiir Gibbs. It's phil.

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<v Speaker 2>Are there any Is there a surprising omission to you?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean no, I mean you look at everybody, look

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<v Speaker 1>at everybody that you name, and look at their resume

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<v Speaker 1>today and what they've done so far this season. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's in the right pecking orders, in the right pecan order.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean some some might switch Josh Allen and Lamar,

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<v Speaker 1>but either way, it's all all. It's all based on

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<v Speaker 1>preference right now. If we if we were to have

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<v Speaker 1>an m v P, I think Josh Allen might be leading.

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<v Speaker 5>Think you that race, you know, so it all it

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<v Speaker 5>all depends.

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<v Speaker 1>And if it's fan voting, if it's player voting, it

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<v Speaker 1>all comes down to preference, especially if it's Pro Bow voting,

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<v Speaker 1>because everybody that you just name, regardless of order, is

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<v Speaker 1>playing phenomenal f in football right now.

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<v Speaker 5>So you can't go wrong no matter what.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, there's no Patrick Mahomes, there's no Travis Kelcey.

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<v Speaker 5>For obvious reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>I know they have a winning record, but they're not

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<v Speaker 1>playing well from an individual standpoint as a team.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, individually a matter of fact, go ahead, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even think I don't even think they would

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<v Speaker 1>be able to go to They won't even be around

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the Pro Bowl anyway.

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<v Speaker 5>Now. They might be playing possum.

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<v Speaker 2>You never know, now, I mean, I don't think I would.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they would have earned it. Now, sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>guys get to go a reputation.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah name alone, Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you look at at it said they this

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<v Speaker 2>individual earned the right to participate in the Pro Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say no, right, I'm gonna say no. Now

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<v Speaker 2>you take three court first of all three quarterbacks go.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like the way they do it now because

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<v Speaker 2>they have the Pro Bowl before the before the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, normally they're the quarterback that makes the

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl. He's going to be a Pro Bowl player.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not going to go. So that's why you get

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<v Speaker 2>these guys all of a sudden, Oh he's a Pro Bowl, bro.

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<v Speaker 3>He was the ninth alternate. Nobody else wanted to go.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, and you walk by the time of Joe

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<v Speaker 2>once they're like, now you got that ninth and eight guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, bro, bro.

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<v Speaker 2>They took the backup to Lamar from Baltimore one year.

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<v Speaker 3>To the Pro Bowl. The quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, you're taking a backup. You got sixteen starters,

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<v Speaker 2>he'll back up. Nobody else wanted to go. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>on his resume, right. But you're right, I agree with

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<v Speaker 2>everything you say. I don't believe Patrick nor Trauve has

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<v Speaker 2>earned the right. Rock Bowers should be the starting AFC

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<v Speaker 2>at the at the Pro.

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<v Speaker 5>Bowl, at the tight end position, at the tight end position.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely absolutely, as absolutely.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, he's playing really really well, really yeah. And with

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<v Speaker 5>the quarterback carrollsel.

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<v Speaker 2>At that yes, yes, yes, and they getting in the rock.

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<v Speaker 2>But he deserves it.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, I thought when I watched him as a freshman,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, this guy, I say, this guy can play

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<v Speaker 2>in the league and he gonna and he's really good.

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<v Speaker 5>And then I saw him his sophomore year, I said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>he a top ten pick m hm.

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<v Speaker 2>And you can see it his ability to his ability

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<v Speaker 2>to track the football, his ability to run after the catch.

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<v Speaker 2>He can catch it on a crowd. I mean he

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<v Speaker 2>flewid at his side. I mean offensively he has he

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<v Speaker 2>has no weaknesses, right, And that's what you're looking for

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<v Speaker 2>these guys. You got to be able to play in space.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to be a matchup nightmare. And he's a

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<v Speaker 2>matchup nightmare for your safety, for your linebackers, for your corners,

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<v Speaker 2>because of his side, because of his quickness, he's he's

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<v Speaker 2>he's really really good. I mean, he has the potential

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<v Speaker 2>to be historically good. After Jeff's lost his seat to

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<v Speaker 2>the Seahawks, Rogers was asked about his pedestrians to his stick,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was quick to remind everyone is not all

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<v Speaker 2>his fault. There are eleven guys on the field. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>it's my fault, definitely multiple times today. And then sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>the details aren't there in other spots. The jet so

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<v Speaker 2>three and nine, they're oh and five. When Rogers has

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<v Speaker 2>a chance to win the game late, he threw a

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<v Speaker 2>brutal pick six. Since twenty twenty two, Rogers ranks thirtieth

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<v Speaker 2>out of thirty five quarterbacks and total qbr o JO.

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<v Speaker 2>At some point in time, Bro, you just got to say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>me most quarter when Brady. See the thing is, Brady

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<v Speaker 2>is quick many the great quarterback. And I'm not talking

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<v Speaker 2>about that afagay. I'm talking about the great because I

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<v Speaker 2>think Rogers deserved to be mentioned with those guys they

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<v Speaker 2>ask you about you. I'm not playing well, o Joe, Shanny.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, Shannon, You're not having your typical year. Yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I ain't playing well. I'm not seeing the ball. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just not playing well. It's it's and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I need to take advantage of the opportunities when they're

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<v Speaker 2>presenting themselves. I think sometimes because I'm trying to force it,

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<v Speaker 2>because I feel like the opportunities that I'm that I

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<v Speaker 2>normally would get aren't there.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to magnify that.

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<v Speaker 2>So if I get an opportunity, I'm trying to make

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<v Speaker 2>the opportunities and I can't. I'm trying to make everything

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<v Speaker 2>a home run. Because I'm trying to make everything. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to show everybody that I'm still that guy. That's

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<v Speaker 2>all you have to do. Oh Joe, why mention anybody

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<v Speaker 2>else they ask you about me?

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<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna do that. He's not gonna do that.

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<v Speaker 1>And actually they got the wrong people that are asking

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<v Speaker 1>the questions. You know, if you if you got the

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<v Speaker 1>right person to asking the question, they're gonna ask the

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<v Speaker 1>question in such a way where you had no choice

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<v Speaker 1>but to answer it in a way that we want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear directly. Not around the bush, not about your numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about specifically when you can't dodge, and you can't

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<v Speaker 1>you can't beat around the bush where you can't even

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<v Speaker 1>mention anybody else because the question is gonna be directly

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<v Speaker 1>pertain to just you not even give you the angle

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to put others in it. Yes, we

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<v Speaker 1>all know it's the team game. But we ain't talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the team right now. We talk about you. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all in the questioning, all in the questioning.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's just tough for him, and it's hat

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yo, when you've been great for a long time

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<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden you're not great anymore, and

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<v Speaker 2>you see your mortality, Man, I think, hey, he can't

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<v Speaker 2>go get you the three hundred yard games and them

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<v Speaker 2>four touchdown games like he could in Green Bay. He

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<v Speaker 2>can't just whip it when last time you see him

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<v Speaker 2>do this, when last time you see him the discount

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<v Speaker 2>double check.

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<v Speaker 3>Or you know his favorite.

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<v Speaker 5>Things, that little fizz. Yeah, yeah, we ain't get that.

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<v Speaker 5>We might get we might get it next year.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he must be playing golf or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, wherever he's gonna be playing. I know one thing

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<v Speaker 1>that the Jets don't have no options right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Him on the run.

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<v Speaker 2>They still don't even with him there, They don't have

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<v Speaker 2>an option. Oh Joe, he's about to be forty one.

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<v Speaker 2>He's about to be forty one. At what situation that

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<v Speaker 2>you get better with age playing a professional sport at

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<v Speaker 2>that age. I'm not saying that like when you know,

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<v Speaker 2>oh Joe, you know, you in your twenties and your

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<v Speaker 2>head towards your Brian He's long pass now, So when

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<v Speaker 2>do you start to get better at that a The

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<v Speaker 2>Bears joined the Jets, say as team to fire their

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<v Speaker 2>head coach in the season this year, Ocho, do you

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<v Speaker 2>believe the Chicago Bears will be one of the most

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<v Speaker 2>covety jobs from a head coaching staff, from a head

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<v Speaker 2>coaching position?

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<v Speaker 1>And I I think so simply because you have a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 5>You have a quarterback that you can work with.

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<v Speaker 1>The quarterback has the foundation, he has something that you

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<v Speaker 1>can work with depending on who comes in there, what

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<v Speaker 1>type of offense are you going to have for that four

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<v Speaker 1>said quarterback? Can you find a way to keep DJ

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<v Speaker 1>more happy? Can can you find a way to keep

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<v Speaker 1>kidding that un happy? Adding some more pieces to that

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<v Speaker 1>team offensively? I think it could be a nice, nice job.

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<v Speaker 1>It all depends on who the coach is. I told

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<v Speaker 1>you what I told you, I told you what I said,

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<v Speaker 1>and what I like. Hell, I like goddamn Bill going there. Hell,

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<v Speaker 1>I like goddamn Bill going anywhere. I think all Bill

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<v Speaker 1>needs is it got damn quarterback or organization like Chicago.

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<v Speaker 5>Would be perfect for Bill.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to give you the keys and allow you

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<v Speaker 1>to do everything you need to do to allow them

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<v Speaker 1>to compete in the NFC again, you know, may be

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<v Speaker 1>the eighty five Bears once again.

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<v Speaker 5>You never know.

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<v Speaker 3>Is he is he going to be able to relate

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<v Speaker 3>to today's Listen.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the greatest things in life that God has

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<v Speaker 1>given everybody is the ability to adapt to their surroundings

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<v Speaker 1>in the errors that they're in.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sure he will be able.

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<v Speaker 2>To how malleable has he been, how malleable has he

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<v Speaker 2>been in his career?

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<v Speaker 3>Why wouldn't he do it in New England? Then if

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<v Speaker 3>he's so either to.

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<v Speaker 5>The adapt and I can't, I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't answer that for him would.

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<v Speaker 5>Have that kind of success that anything you do?

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<v Speaker 2>What did he adapt to? He was rigid in hard line,

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<v Speaker 2>but what did you adapt?

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<v Speaker 5>We we're in different times.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Bill understands we're in different times and in

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<v Speaker 1>order for you to have that same success, some of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that you used to doing, you got to

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<v Speaker 1>do them different. I think he understands that by looking

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<v Speaker 1>at the landscape and seeing way. Well, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to approach it differently if I get the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to be a head coach again, because this is

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<v Speaker 1>how the day's players are.

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<v Speaker 2>I can see I'm the coach. He's what he's going

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<v Speaker 2>because now he's forced to do that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, sometimes that's what it takes. Some sometimes sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes that Sometimes it has to be against the wall

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<v Speaker 1>for you to see things differently and changing perspective.

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<v Speaker 5>In the way you do.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell, my back benegain you before, I have nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>do with the game of football. My back has been

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<v Speaker 1>against the wall before. It ain't had nothing to do

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<v Speaker 1>with the game of football.

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<v Speaker 5>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, if I don't straight if I straight about right now,

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<v Speaker 1>you already know what the end result is.

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<v Speaker 2>I still believe the greatest, the greatest Peter's fible is adaptability.

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<v Speaker 5>Got to.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not size, it's not strength, it's not speed. It's

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<v Speaker 2>being able to adapt to the ever of changing.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are two things that can get away around you.

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<v Speaker 1>He going your pride, You going your pride, and getting

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<v Speaker 1>away of that if you're able to compartmentalize and set

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<v Speaker 1>those aside and understanding whatever that end goal may be

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<v Speaker 1>and isn't. It doesn't just have to be football. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to be you shoe coaching. I'm about just

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<v Speaker 1>life in general. Sitting that pride of you go aside

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<v Speaker 1>for the betterment of whatever end goal you're trying to reach.

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<v Speaker 5>It'll help.

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<v Speaker 2>I think if if he's gonna have to be that,

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<v Speaker 2>he's gonna have to be that kind of that coach

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<v Speaker 2>Belichick that's on the inside of the NFL, and he

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<v Speaker 2>can't be so rigid and he can't be so structured.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he can't be so what he was in New England.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, he doesn't have Tom Brady running inn

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<v Speaker 2>affairs for him anymore. Yeah, because Tom was the Patriot.

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<v Speaker 2>Way you heard the guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Bill was not coach.

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<v Speaker 5>But we played from my camera getting blurry.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, it's still blurry.

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<v Speaker 5>Whoa man?

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<v Speaker 2>Get your kill?

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<v Speaker 3>A toy?

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<v Speaker 2>Hand's face up? Back up by the camera, man, man

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<v Speaker 2>back up. Yeah that's better.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you need a shame to see him? Why don't

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<v Speaker 3>right there?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah you do, Yeah you do.

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<v Speaker 3>I ain't even know. I ain't raise.

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<v Speaker 5>No, that's all clean la tour. Hey, the counsels clean.

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<v Speaker 1>I just need a haircut once I clean that up.

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<v Speaker 1>Put a little sea and you got your U S

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<v Speaker 1>bree You know what sea breeze is? Hey put a

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<v Speaker 1>little sea bree.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I look good, Oh Joe.

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<v Speaker 5>Kyle Shanahan said, Christian McCaffrey suffered the potentially.

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<v Speaker 1>Season the non contact or was it previously when he

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<v Speaker 1>got tripped up?

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<v Speaker 5>You think it happened.

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<v Speaker 2>They showed they showed that play, but you knew as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as like that knee buckle when he took off.

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<v Speaker 2>You could see that knee buckle and then he like

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<v Speaker 2>gave himself up, so you knew something.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, damn, did it? Is it? The key leads?

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<v Speaker 3>Did the calv go?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? But Kyle Shanahan just said this press conference kissed

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<v Speaker 2>Christian McCaffrey. So for the potentially seasoned ending, it's over

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<v Speaker 2>that he just had the I think it wasn't right,

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<v Speaker 2>think it was the right one. No, he had a

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<v Speaker 2>he had a calf injury that led into his achiles

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<v Speaker 2>and and the think, oh Joe, And you know the

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<v Speaker 2>thing is is that I would say all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>if you limp into the season, oh you limping out

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<v Speaker 2>of it? You get healthy during the Season's impossible. The

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<v Speaker 2>number one thing when anybody have surgery or anybody have

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<v Speaker 2>an injury, What did they tell you? The most important

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<v Speaker 2>thing on your rest?

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<v Speaker 3>How you get rest? Keep working the dog craft out

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<v Speaker 3>of you.

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<v Speaker 5>Listen they do.

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<v Speaker 1>They can only take you so much because in order

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<v Speaker 1>to get you back to the playing speed and get

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<v Speaker 1>you acclimated to game tempo, you got some type of

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<v Speaker 1>work you got to work because once they put you

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<v Speaker 1>out there, you got to put that work with You're

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<v Speaker 1>firing a them boys, moving them boys they do.

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<v Speaker 5>Damn, I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm saying for mold. Prayers

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<v Speaker 5>up the LA's see.

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<v Speaker 2>Macmuh the game of the day. The Eagles defeated the

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<v Speaker 2>Ravens twenty four nineteen. Justin Tucker has lost multiple games

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<v Speaker 2>this season and left seven points off the board tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>He continued this season long struggles by missing two field

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<v Speaker 2>goals and a pat one from forty seven, one from

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<v Speaker 2>forty three. His two fail field goals came in the

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<v Speaker 2>third when Baltimore trailed fourteen to twelve. If this is

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<v Speaker 2>the first time that he's missed three kicks in a game,

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<v Speaker 2>and he put Major Dan and the AFC in the

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<v Speaker 2>Ravens opportunity to win the North. Tucker's missed eight field goals,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's missed ten kicks, if I'm not mistaken, eight

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<v Speaker 2>field goals and two PAHs this season, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>single season high. Harbard is sticking with Tucker. We saw

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<v Speaker 2>him go to them on the sideline say we believe

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<v Speaker 2>in you. You hugged him. If you're asking me, are

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<v Speaker 2>we going to move on from justin Tucker, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>really planning.

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<v Speaker 5>That right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that would be Why do you hear.

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<v Speaker 5>The key words you just said. I don't like that.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't like that. Did he say right now or

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<v Speaker 5>did you just add that in here?

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<v Speaker 3>No, he said that right now. I don't plan on

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<v Speaker 3>doing that right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't I'm not really planning on doing that right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that be wise.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't like that. Listen, let me let me tell

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<v Speaker 5>you something. Let me tell you something. Also also the

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<v Speaker 5>chat chat, y'all listen to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. I know I play around a lot, you know

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to saying some of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>I've done. But only you know my history and my

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<v Speaker 1>resume as a kicker, especially in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 5>I know what that feels like.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand the pressures that go into what Justin Tucker

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<v Speaker 1>is going through right now. I understand the pressures of

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<v Speaker 1>already having the moniker being the greatest kicker of all

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<v Speaker 1>time based on what you did in the past. But

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<v Speaker 1>what you've done in the past when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL is always yeah. I ain't got none doing

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<v Speaker 1>that for me lately. Right now, I don't watch much baseball,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can tell what Justin is in.

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<v Speaker 5>He's in a slump. He's in a slump sometimes.

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<v Speaker 3>Huh. He got the yips right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, Justin Tucker is in a slump. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know what happened when players in a slump, it gets

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<v Speaker 1>to you.

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<v Speaker 5>Here, you got to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Mentally strong he is, for one, and know what to

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<v Speaker 1>get back into rhythm, to get back to what you

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<v Speaker 1>were doing in the past, being the Justin Tucker that

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<v Speaker 1>we're used to seeing.

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<v Speaker 5>You got to envision that mother up here right now.

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<v Speaker 5>It's getting to it. He think about missing the kicks

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<v Speaker 5>before he even kicking the ball, which is why he's

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<v Speaker 5>missing the kicks.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's always and they seem to be always very

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<v Speaker 2>into the left. He's always very mechanic. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like all mechanics.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all mechanics on your follow through, on your swing,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta stop your leg at a certain point if

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<v Speaker 1>it's always being to the left. If anything, adjust adjust

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<v Speaker 1>your split, adjust your linement. Face the ball up a

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<v Speaker 1>different way. Because everything is happening and reoccur in the

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<v Speaker 1>same way.

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<v Speaker 5>Kickers watch film. I'm a kicker. I'm telling you. I

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<v Speaker 5>know some of you might laugh at me. I'm serious.

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<v Speaker 5>I know, I know what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I know what Justin Tucker's going through. He's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be all right. I don't like the words that Harpall said.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't do the best thock in the world like

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<v Speaker 1>that just because he's going through a slump, because you

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<v Speaker 1>have quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 5>Quarterback go through slump too. Sometimes even the best go

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<v Speaker 5>through a bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Season or bad sting your games where they just can't

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<v Speaker 1>get themselves out of a funk. But at some point

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<v Speaker 1>they turn it around, especially at the position. Once he

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<v Speaker 1>gets it here, you got the visualize it here. Once

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<v Speaker 1>you visualize it here and get that confidence back, he'll

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<v Speaker 1>be fine.

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<v Speaker 2>The question is is he gonna get it back this year?

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<v Speaker 2>Because it doesn't matter if he gets it back next

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<v Speaker 2>year because they're trying to make the playoffs this year.

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<v Speaker 3>And how many times have the Ravens.

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<v Speaker 2>He kicked the Ravens to the Super Bowl as a rookie,

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<v Speaker 2>as an undrafted rookie.

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<v Speaker 3>He went to Denver and made the game win. He kicked.

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<v Speaker 2>And that launched him. That put him on his way.

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen guys. You mentioned the sport. You go back

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<v Speaker 2>and look at golf. You look at David Dubal Duvall,

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<v Speaker 2>You look at Ian Baker Finch, they had the yips.

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned baseball. Look at Chuck knock Block, Look at

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<v Speaker 2>Rick and kell Rick am Kell had to move to

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<v Speaker 2>the outfield because he couldn't get the ball over home plate.

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<v Speaker 2>Chuck knod Block could not throw the ball. He's a

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<v Speaker 2>second base. He could not throw it to the first basement.

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Sacks had a similar situation.

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<v Speaker 3>It's half.

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen guys do it, and they David Duball left,

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<v Speaker 2>Ian Baker Fitz then ended up leaving because they couldn't puns.

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<v Speaker 2>Freak and kill moved to the outfield because he could

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<v Speaker 2>not throw the ball over the plate. It's and it's

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<v Speaker 2>and it's it's it's it's it's tough. Lamar Jackson did

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<v Speaker 2>not play a good game today. Oho uh, he really

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<v Speaker 2>never found this rhythm. Had most multiple fumbles, but he

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<v Speaker 2>recovered those had a lot of overthrows he had.

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<v Speaker 3>He had likely he could have hit likely on that.

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<v Speaker 5>Player him a little bit yeah, yes, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a little bit likely.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop running like well he gotta be throwing that at

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<v Speaker 2>somebody else because he hey, he run it, he throw

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<v Speaker 2>what the ball going through? He just stopped me like

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<v Speaker 2>with somebody out in in front of me, and then

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<v Speaker 2>he come back and then defumbled the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>He was six and fifteen on third down.

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<v Speaker 2>The touchdown that they got, oh cho, that was late

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<v Speaker 2>in the game because if they don't get that touchdown

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<v Speaker 2>the shut out in the second half. Lamar said his

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<v Speaker 2>mother cursed him out after the game for not running

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<v Speaker 2>more and not hitting the running lades. The Ravens finished

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<v Speaker 2>two or five in the red zone. You know what,

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't play well today on a day in which

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<v Speaker 2>the defense they held, they held, they held and held.

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<v Speaker 3>And they was needing Lamar to be Lamar. You know what.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't happen for him to days that watched the

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<v Speaker 1>night I love Lamar I love that Lamar has proved that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm not just a run of the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna shure you I can pass. I'm gonna show

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<v Speaker 1>you I can pass. Listen, I know you could pass

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<v Speaker 1>the ball, young bull. But I need you to be special.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, on nights like to night and games like

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<v Speaker 1>to night, I need you to be special of what

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<v Speaker 1>makes you you. I need you to do what you

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<v Speaker 1>was doing at Boyd and Beach High School when I

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<v Speaker 1>used to go watch it out there when you was

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<v Speaker 1>a legit. Take off with the ball, baby, if it

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<v Speaker 1>ain't there. Sometimes you got to go through progression one,

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<v Speaker 1>two and three. Sometime you can look at one. If

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<v Speaker 1>one ain't there, man, take off and go with that thing, bry.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you got to go off script. Sometimes you got

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<v Speaker 1>to go off script and do what makes you you

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<v Speaker 1>your specially your two time MVP. For a reason, I

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<v Speaker 1>would have loved to see the Ravens win the game tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have loved for it, especially when your kicker

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<v Speaker 1>is not playing as well as he should be. Who

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<v Speaker 1>has to overcome that right number eight, when Lamar is

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<v Speaker 1>the one that has to overcome justin Tucker not playing

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<v Speaker 1>as good as you should be. So those points you're missing,

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<v Speaker 1>that puts the pressure to oners back on the quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>to overcome the kickers woes.

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<v Speaker 5>Sometimes you don't that being the pass of boy drop back.

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<v Speaker 5>If that's sitay there man, take off of that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm try to.

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<v Speaker 5>Prove a point I forgive you.

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<v Speaker 2>I do I do think sometimes Lamar tries to prove

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<v Speaker 2>foball ready at the back of doing what you do

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<v Speaker 2>then cares who Okay? So why does mom cussing him out?

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<v Speaker 5>You know what you said?

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<v Speaker 1>Right well, when you see the run of lanes, what

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<v Speaker 1>take off and do what you do?

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<v Speaker 4>What you mean?

0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:12.400
<v Speaker 5>You dangerous, Jessics James you are You've already shot us.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just as dangerous with your arm as you are

0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:18.359
<v Speaker 1>with your legs. But tonight is the night where we

0:23:18.400 --> 0:23:22.840
<v Speaker 1>needed your legs, not your arm.

0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:25.640
<v Speaker 2>But we had this conversation in the AFC Championship game.

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<v Speaker 2>You asked after the game, why did Lamar run?

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<v Speaker 3>More? So?

0:23:29.240 --> 0:23:31.720
<v Speaker 2>Why do we keep having these conversations in these big,

0:23:31.760 --> 0:23:34.720
<v Speaker 2>meaningful games where we keep saying, Lamar, why aren't you

0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:37.600
<v Speaker 2>running the football more? Why are we continuously having these conversations?

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<v Speaker 5>O Joe, I don't know, I don't know. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know who.

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<v Speaker 3>So what, because what are you trying to prove?

0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:45.359
<v Speaker 5>Who?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you proved that you led the league in touchdown passes.

0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:51.119
<v Speaker 2>You got twenty nine touchdown passes. It's gonna be you

0:23:51.160 --> 0:23:53.760
<v Speaker 2>and burn Joe Burrow probably the league in touchdown passes

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<v Speaker 2>this year. At this point in time, the only thing

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<v Speaker 2>left for you to prove, Lamar is that you can

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<v Speaker 2>get to in winnings through That's it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it. That's not necessary.

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<v Speaker 5>On throwing it, running it, crawling, it will chair. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't care.

0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:12.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't care how you got to get there, Go

0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:14.840
<v Speaker 1>samn and just get there so we can get these

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<v Speaker 1>mothers off your back.

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<v Speaker 5>By anything.

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<v Speaker 2>There will come a time. There will come a time

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<v Speaker 2>that he will need to like I'm gonna force Lamar

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<v Speaker 2>Jackson to throw the foot. I'm a foreign believer that

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<v Speaker 2>I would rather. I know he can kill me with

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<v Speaker 2>his leg. I just can't let him outside the pocket.

0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:38.800
<v Speaker 2>I can't let him. I can't let him outside the pocket, Ojo,

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<v Speaker 2>because he's too dangerous oute there and he can throw

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<v Speaker 2>the ball over my head.

0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:44.639
<v Speaker 3>So I gotta keep him in. I gotta keep him

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<v Speaker 3>in the box.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I'm gonna try to make sure that I got

0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:50.679
<v Speaker 2>a spy to entice him, like, Okay, I got somebody's

0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:53.119
<v Speaker 2>spying and I want him. I want to trick him

0:24:53.160 --> 0:24:56.080
<v Speaker 2>into thinking, yeah, go ahead, throw from the pocket. But

0:24:56.160 --> 0:24:57.840
<v Speaker 2>you're playing into my hands because that's really why I

0:24:57.840 --> 0:24:58.520
<v Speaker 2>want you anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>But listen this, this is a good thing about it. This

0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:02.760
<v Speaker 1>is a good thing about the evolution of Lamar Jackson.

0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:05.080
<v Speaker 1>This is about how good he's gotten even as a

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<v Speaker 1>pocket passes. Okay, you want to put a spy okay back, okay, boom.

0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:11.239
<v Speaker 5>You want to hear your dns, rush your field and

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<v Speaker 5>keep contained. But I can beat you from the pocket.

0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:14.600
<v Speaker 5>I proved it.

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<v Speaker 1>I can beat you from the pocket and be a

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<v Speaker 1>throw of the ball. I then showed you I can

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<v Speaker 1>drop back, I could be a shotgun.

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:21.199
<v Speaker 5>I can RBO.

0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:24.679
<v Speaker 1>I could I play action faith and read through my

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<v Speaker 1>progressions for one to three, I can't even come back

0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:30.160
<v Speaker 1>to one that I got enough time. I can buy

0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:33.359
<v Speaker 1>myself time, I can go script. I can do all

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<v Speaker 1>these different things from the pocket.

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<v Speaker 5>So now that makes me that much more dangerous and

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:42.399
<v Speaker 5>multi dimensional from the quarterback position. I just don't like

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<v Speaker 5>the fact that to me.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like sometimes Lamar wants to prove, especially tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna show you I can beat you with my arm.

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<v Speaker 5>When we know how to push you all with your legs.

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<v Speaker 3>I've tried.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a reason God gave you that gift. I need

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<v Speaker 5>you again, I know, I know, mar gonna see that.

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<v Speaker 1>Goa se this boy. I need you like you did

0:26:01.640 --> 0:26:04.760
<v Speaker 1>when he was at Boy and Beach. Huh stop playing

0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:07.239
<v Speaker 1>now come on? Oh matter of fact, Oh wait, wait

0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:09.480
<v Speaker 1>wait the Ravens lost night. Can you please tell me

0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:10.880
<v Speaker 1>how many carried Derek Henry had.

0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:16.080
<v Speaker 3>U d Henry had nineteen.

0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:18.960
<v Speaker 5>Go in the sixteen yard mark. He was older.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, thirty two they had. They had thirty two

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 2>rush attempts for one hundred and sixty six yards, which

0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:28.800
<v Speaker 2>say you can live with that. Lamar was twenty three

0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:32.240
<v Speaker 2>or thirty six? Two thirty seven? Uh, he got sacked

0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:34.400
<v Speaker 2>three times. I thought, I thought the Eagles d line

0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:36.080
<v Speaker 2>did an unbelievable job of getting out there.

0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:36.360
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Jalen Carter as a monster.

0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:40.440
<v Speaker 2>This is what I this is what Jalen Carter was

0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 2>supposed to be a top five pick. I'm not so

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<v Speaker 2>sure he was had he not had all those off

0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:48.000
<v Speaker 2>the field transgressions while he was in college. He the

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<v Speaker 2>top He's a top three talent. He could rush the

0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:55.120
<v Speaker 2>path and he can stop the run. He's relentless. He's

0:26:55.160 --> 0:26:58.439
<v Speaker 2>starting to see just how good he can beat. He's

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:01.520
<v Speaker 2>the guy that you start, sir. But I thought their

0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:07.520
<v Speaker 2>defensive line did an unbelievable job of rushing but containing. Lamar, Lamar, Look, Lamark,

0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:09.560
<v Speaker 2>you can't jump. You can't run up the field on him.

0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:12.639
<v Speaker 2>Now jump out the window on you. But I thought sweat,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought some of those other guys did an

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:17.440
<v Speaker 2>unbelievable job for they got a that Broun, that's not

0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:18.680
<v Speaker 2>that's a fifty three.

0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 5>Well he nice bore, Hey, he nice wore.

0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 2>The Steelers defeated the Bengals forty four to thirty eight shootout.

0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:30.040
<v Speaker 2>Not only did the defense off excuse me, the offense

0:27:30.080 --> 0:27:33.400
<v Speaker 2>moved the ball it will, but the Steelers defense forced

0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:37.200
<v Speaker 2>three turnovers, including a fourth quarter scoop and score by

0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:40.440
<v Speaker 2>Peyton Wilson. Pickins led to Steelers with seventy four yards

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:42.960
<v Speaker 2>receiving on three catches with a touchdown, but drew a

0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:46.760
<v Speaker 2>fifteen but drew fifteen yard penoties after two of its catches.

0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:50.119
<v Speaker 2>After the game, Pickins said there was anything he needed

0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 2>to do differently in those situations. Tomlin said, he just

0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:56.400
<v Speaker 2>got to grow up. This is an emotional game. These

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:58.919
<v Speaker 2>divisional games are big. He got a target on his

0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:01.840
<v Speaker 2>back because he's joy George. He understands that. But he's

0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 2>got to grow up. He's just got to grow up

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 2>and hurry.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, George, George, listen, I'm ana hit young bull. I

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:11.680
<v Speaker 1>got I got Georgie number. I'm gonna talk to him.

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<v Speaker 5>Listen.

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<v Speaker 1>Take some of that, Take some of that fun, you know,

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:18.439
<v Speaker 1>some of that energy that you display, that is that

0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:21.880
<v Speaker 1>is that you're being penalized for, and turn that into entertainment.

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 5>Turn it into entertainment. It's okay to be the villain.

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:28.119
<v Speaker 5>Enjoy being a villain. Embrace being the villain.

0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:31.560
<v Speaker 1>But do it in a way where it's organized chaos

0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:34.680
<v Speaker 1>within the game of football. Have fun within the game

0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:37.359
<v Speaker 1>of football without having to get those penoties. I'm telling you,

0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna pay dividends in the long run. He has

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:42.880
<v Speaker 1>to understand that, you know, the gun gesture, you know

0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 1>in the end zone, you know after after.

0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:49.720
<v Speaker 2>You can't but but you know you can't do that.

0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:53.640
<v Speaker 2>And I know Chad Fans, I know Eric Gunn and

0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 2>bullets don't kill anybody. But the NFL we don't want that.

0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 2>If you're boss, tell you cannot come to work with

0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Kathy Khakis. Don't frame your ass to work with Kakis.

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:09.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't get it.

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 3>O yo.

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 2>We knew, oh yo, if we wore our socks a

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 2>certain height, the NFL said, we want your bulley, we

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:19.160
<v Speaker 2>want your knees covered. I expected to get a fine

0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 2>if I met more than two planes and I didn't

0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:22.520
<v Speaker 2>pull my socks up.

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 3>But you can't say, well, what did the suck?

0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 2>And I said, and I used to ask all the time,

0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:30.080
<v Speaker 2>what does my socks got to do? They say, Shannon,

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:32.440
<v Speaker 2>we want uniformity. They say, Shannon, if we let you

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 2>do yours, and then somebody gonna come out there with foot,

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 2>and then somebody gonna come out here, and then everybody

0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 2>gonna start to looking like an all tournament team. They

0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 2>say we want to We say we want everybody. We

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 2>want every we want uniform with Shannon. We're the National

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:47.360
<v Speaker 2>Football League and we're trying to fit example, I say, okay,

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:51.920
<v Speaker 2>but oh cho, they you remember they cut that out

0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:54.280
<v Speaker 2>before you got to the league. The throat slashes just

0:29:54.760 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 2>they cut that out, John, They cut that out. Anything

0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 2>anything violent or sexual in nature. Aaron humping. Ain't got

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:09.000
<v Speaker 2>nothing to Nobody ever got breaked about air humping, No dude,

0:30:10.000 --> 0:30:13.960
<v Speaker 2>try no dry hunting. But they cut it out. Those

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 2>peak fans, please stop saying because.

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:23.520
<v Speaker 3>You know the room, George knows the room. You do that.

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:27.320
<v Speaker 1>See, outside of knowing the rules, you got to understand

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:31.600
<v Speaker 1>and to remember those rules when you engage in war.

0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:34.640
<v Speaker 5>At the time of war, when you plan. He said,

0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:37.120
<v Speaker 5>you got to remember that. All he needed to do.

0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you, Uncle, I'm gonna talk to him. I'm

0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:40.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna talk to him. I'm gonna hit it tomorrow.

0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:41.240
<v Speaker 5>I'm bruh.

0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:44.200
<v Speaker 1>You need to take that same energy and the stuff

0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 1>you want to do and turn it into something else

0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:51.560
<v Speaker 1>in a fun entertainment type of way where it's it's

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 1>engaging for us and for those watching, where it doesn't

0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:58.040
<v Speaker 1>cost your team. There's a way to do it. I'm

0:30:58.200 --> 0:31:00.680
<v Speaker 1>massive that you know there's a way to do it.

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, as far as your player is concerned, and

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:06.080
<v Speaker 1>you're good, keep on playing ball. But I don't want

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:08.640
<v Speaker 1>this is what I don't want because the young, because

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:12.240
<v Speaker 1>the young. So coach Tomin has to be careful with

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 1>what he say because you don't want to lose a

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 1>player like that up here, huh up here. You don't

0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 1>want to take too much. You don't want to pull

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:21.640
<v Speaker 1>the reins back too much hard because you're gonna lose

0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:23.480
<v Speaker 1>what makes George picking George pickens.

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:26.280
<v Speaker 5>But you can't hurt the team like that, though, you can't.

0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 5>You can't thank you.

0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:32.440
<v Speaker 2>We just saw this on Thursday with Jamison with Williams.

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:35.960
<v Speaker 2>We just saw it Thursday way he threw the ball

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 2>in the remember on the sideline. We just saw it.

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh yo, If even if I'm speeding, if I'm going

0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 2>eight in the school zone, I can't tell them ain't

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 2>no kids in school. You can't go eight in the

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:54.920
<v Speaker 2>school in the school zone. It's still a school zone,

0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:58.920
<v Speaker 2>whether the kids are in school or not. You can't

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 2>make that gesture, even if you have no gun, even

0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 2>if there is no bullet. You can't make a sexual gesture.

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:08.720
<v Speaker 2>You can't make a violent gesture. So please chat, Please,

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:11.440
<v Speaker 2>people stay off the internet talking about ain't no guns.

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 2>Ain't nobody else been killed by that? They touch you

0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:17.600
<v Speaker 2>can't do it. The league says, we're going to penalize you.

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 2>But it's not the league penalizing you. You're penalizing your

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 2>team and it hurts its day.

0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:27.320
<v Speaker 1>What happened to you when it matters most, and that's yeah,

0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 1>when you leave.

0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 2>The expected you get an unsportd like conduct penalty? And

0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 2>now what was a field goal? They back you up

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 2>because a lot of times, Ojo, that's after the fact.

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:42.040
<v Speaker 3>Now they back you up. What happens if it's second.

0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 2>Down and you get one of those, the down counts

0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 2>so and now instead of being second and five, is

0:32:47.000 --> 0:32:50.520
<v Speaker 2>second and twenty, or it's third and five, third and twenty,

0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 2>it's third and fifteen. You see, it's things like that

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:57.200
<v Speaker 2>you have to you have to think about in real time.

0:32:58.040 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 3>Ojo.

0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 2>It's too late for you and I to have this conversation, said,

0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:02.760
<v Speaker 2>oh Jo. We tried to tell him.

0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:08.040
<v Speaker 3>It's too late. It's too late. So just learn.

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:13.600
<v Speaker 2>From others from that have made those mistakes, so you

0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 2>don't have to be a footnote got a cost of penalty?

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:21.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't, oh Joe, but I try to tell you now.

0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:26.959
<v Speaker 2>Now people will tell you Joe Burrow played great. Oh Jo,

0:33:27.040 --> 0:33:28.560
<v Speaker 2>might come out here and tell you. Joe Barro played

0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:32.040
<v Speaker 2>great his defense. If your defense is bad, Ojo, as

0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:34.000
<v Speaker 2>an offense, what can't you do with your defense?

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<v Speaker 1>Tell the people at home how many turnovers? But before

0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 1>you say that, how.

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Many did they leave? How many points did they lead?

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<v Speaker 2>You to the sweve?

0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:47.760
<v Speaker 5>Twenty one with seventeen?

0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:48.480
<v Speaker 3>How much?

0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:53.560
<v Speaker 2>How many they got a scooping score and they got

0:33:53.600 --> 0:33:54.680
<v Speaker 2>a field go right before that?

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<v Speaker 5>That's ten. That's ten points, right, I say something real quick?

0:33:57.840 --> 0:33:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Yes, for the chat, for a better contence, you need

0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 1>get Let me get energize real quick. You know it's

0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:03.680
<v Speaker 1>hard for me to defend my bangles. It's hard for

0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:06.600
<v Speaker 1>me to defend my bangles. But for better context, in

0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 1>those turnovers, now, one was a tip Cam Hayward tipped

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:14.000
<v Speaker 1>it boom, pick scoop and score boom running with the ball.

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:17.400
<v Speaker 5>TJ. Watt, great play, And I think it was a

0:34:17.440 --> 0:34:20.080
<v Speaker 5>high smith. Is a high smith that beat Orlando Brown

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:21.000
<v Speaker 5>off the edge?

0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 3>Hey?

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:24.960
<v Speaker 2>Maron, Yeah, all they was It might have been the

0:34:24.960 --> 0:34:27.600
<v Speaker 2>other guy, the other guy I think it was, like it.

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 3>Might have been.

0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:30.120
<v Speaker 2>It might have been fifty one Wilson. He might have

0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:30.960
<v Speaker 2>called the Zachs.

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:34.759
<v Speaker 1>Listen, but one in that scenario, Orlando Brown. I'm not

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:37.120
<v Speaker 1>sure what the Bengals are doing. There's no reason why

0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:39.160
<v Speaker 1>Lando Brown should be on the field if he can't walk.

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:41.200
<v Speaker 1>If he can't if you can't walk, that means you

0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:43.279
<v Speaker 1>can't play left tackle. There's no reason should be on

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the field. But if you are on the on the field,

0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:47.360
<v Speaker 1>then that's the owners is on the offensive line or

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:48.680
<v Speaker 1>the guy damn off of the coordinator.

0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:52.120
<v Speaker 5>Hell lets slide protection that way because he's not fully healthy.

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:59.560
<v Speaker 5>Obviously we saw over there. We gotta leave men by

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 5>itself on one. Yes, I know, I listen to me.

0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:07.160
<v Speaker 5>Oh well, that TJDJ about to break in. What happened?

0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 5>What happened that cost us that call?

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:13.359
<v Speaker 1>If he's heard, goddamn fly left put the running back

0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:15.520
<v Speaker 1>up there, and goddamn Chip got put the tight end

0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:17.279
<v Speaker 1>over there, and Chip, you got to do something to

0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 1>help him.

0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:19.719
<v Speaker 5>If you have a play out there that is heard

0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:23.160
<v Speaker 5>and it cost us offensively.

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:23.360
<v Speaker 3>I get it.

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 2>That was a scooping score, O Joe, But your guy

0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:30.400
<v Speaker 2>has got to take care of the football.

0:35:30.480 --> 0:35:30.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh Joe.

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:34.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, if your defense, if your defense you have

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 2>one of the two or three worst defensive football, you

0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:37.840
<v Speaker 2>can't turn it.

0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Listen there's nothing gonna say. There's nothing not gonna say

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:42.520
<v Speaker 1>about that. But it is it blindside though, that that

0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:45.920
<v Speaker 1>is his blindside. He has no idea that two seconds

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:49.200
<v Speaker 1>after the snap that somebody's barreling down and knocking the

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:50.040
<v Speaker 1>ball out his hands.

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:53.239
<v Speaker 5>Again, you got listened. I'm not making no excuses. You

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:54.480
<v Speaker 5>got to have two hands on the ball.

0:35:56.480 --> 0:35:58.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you do that, Aldo, So I can make that

0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:01.160
<v Speaker 2>case for Daniel Jones, all them sacks that ain't on

0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 2>Daniel Jones, all those turnovers, every quarterback that turned the

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:07.319
<v Speaker 2>ball over, because what they're doing is that you make

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:10.280
<v Speaker 2>an excuses for Joy b because they had three passing,

0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:11.000
<v Speaker 2>three touchdown.

0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 5>I was just giving you a better context happen.

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:20.200
<v Speaker 2>So who cares, sir? Did he have the ball in

0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:25.759
<v Speaker 2>his hand? So all those fumbles and interceptions that what

0:36:25.920 --> 0:36:29.160
<v Speaker 2>you call them, we see. We saw Patrick Mahomes two

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:33.120
<v Speaker 2>years ago. How many karms did he He has seven

0:36:33.200 --> 0:36:36.799
<v Speaker 2>interceptions and like three or four pick sixes that went

0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 2>through the receiver's hands when you fumbled the ball and

0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:46.800
<v Speaker 2>your defense is bad. All I know is this, Patrick

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:49.680
<v Speaker 2>Mahomes got to the Super Bowl with the second with

0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:52.840
<v Speaker 2>the second or third worst defense in the NFL. That

0:36:53.000 --> 0:36:55.839
<v Speaker 2>is the bargains because what has happened is that we've

0:36:55.920 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 2>allowed Joe Burrow, and he's a really good, he's great quarterback,

0:36:59.800 --> 0:37:02.360
<v Speaker 2>but we allowed that one year run to tain us

0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:05.440
<v Speaker 2>because we feel he can do no wrong. Because every

0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 2>year he's ranked above Lamar. Lamar is more accomplished than

0:37:09.080 --> 0:37:12.840
<v Speaker 2>Joe Burrow. We rank him all head of Josh Allen.

0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:15.880
<v Speaker 2>He throws a beautiful ball, he puts up big numbers,

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:17.799
<v Speaker 2>but at what point in time do we hold him

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:22.120
<v Speaker 2>accountable like we have all the other great quarterbacks that

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:25.600
<v Speaker 2>haven't fulfilled the promise of what we expected them to

0:37:25.680 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 2>be because we make excuse me, we're like, well, his

0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:33.760
<v Speaker 2>blind side, yet myhomes offensive line, if myhome's offensive.

0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:35.879
<v Speaker 5>Line any work, fat tackles bad.

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 3>One team got.

0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:43.560
<v Speaker 2>Eleven to one record, and so and that's the thing

0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:45.560
<v Speaker 2>when you just look, if you Ojo, if you just

0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:47.600
<v Speaker 2>looked at the stats, you're like, this man threw for

0:37:47.680 --> 0:37:51.480
<v Speaker 2>three h nine and three touchdowns, but he had a

0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:53.120
<v Speaker 2>he had a scooping score that the ball was in

0:37:53.200 --> 0:37:55.720
<v Speaker 2>his hand that gave him that gave him seven points,

0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:58.040
<v Speaker 2>and then he had another funder that gave him ten points.

0:37:58.280 --> 0:38:00.839
<v Speaker 2>So now if I take those two points off the board,

0:38:01.000 --> 0:38:03.480
<v Speaker 2>how many points did they They scored forty four. If

0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:06.520
<v Speaker 2>I take those tens, Cincinnati scored thirty eight, they win

0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:07.799
<v Speaker 2>the game thirty eight thirty four.

0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:13.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you're right. Listen, listen, I'm already hurting right now

0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:13.840
<v Speaker 5>as it is.

0:38:13.960 --> 0:38:14.719
<v Speaker 3>You know I don't.

0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:18.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't need you to continue to to pour salt

0:38:18.120 --> 0:38:22.880
<v Speaker 1>my wounds. I know, I know because I'm I've been

0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 1>on I've been on my soul talk joke, and I've

0:38:25.520 --> 0:38:28.799
<v Speaker 1>been continued to let down. I've been continued, let down,

0:38:29.480 --> 0:38:29.919
<v Speaker 1>weak out.

0:38:30.160 --> 0:38:31.600
<v Speaker 3>Huh, We'll get your ass off it.

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:34.400
<v Speaker 5>I'm off of it.

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:38.719
<v Speaker 2>Because you know, you know, the higher you up you are,

0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:43.240
<v Speaker 2>the easy you easier target you to head when snipers shooting,

0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:46.320
<v Speaker 2>what do they try to do. See when snipers are shooting,

0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:49.520
<v Speaker 2>they at a higher elevation. But when you show your head,

0:38:49.680 --> 0:38:51.960
<v Speaker 2>that's what they can put that thing on you. You

0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:53.719
<v Speaker 2>better get low to the ground, get off the box.

0:38:54.080 --> 0:38:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Say hey, god, hey man, I thought my biggest it's

0:38:56.920 --> 0:38:58.920
<v Speaker 2>all for you know, it's something going to be better.

0:38:59.000 --> 0:39:01.239
<v Speaker 2>I matter of fact, and listen, I would listening to

0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:03.320
<v Speaker 2>the Joe. Joe said we could win seven of the

0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:06.000
<v Speaker 2>last nine, there's a possibility. So when he said that

0:39:06.360 --> 0:39:08.120
<v Speaker 2>in front of them, I was hype.

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:09.760
<v Speaker 5>How I was hype?

0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:12.880
<v Speaker 1>I was ready for Joe. I've been talking. I've been

0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:15.719
<v Speaker 1>talking cash, you know what. I've been making bets with

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:19.200
<v Speaker 1>Ryan Clark. I can't even eat McDonald's till January.

0:39:19.320 --> 0:39:19.480
<v Speaker 3>Now.

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:25.239
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but you know what, Yes, listen, and you can't

0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:33.520
<v Speaker 6>say till January because we lost, uh you, you lost.

0:39:33.400 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 3>Like five in a row.

0:39:36.200 --> 0:39:38.400
<v Speaker 5>Hey, So I said, I can't play foot or ball.

0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:42.279
<v Speaker 3>Because my fa foot or ball. Dope?

0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 2>Nope, o yo, even you, Oh Joe, you playing the game?

0:39:54.680 --> 0:39:57.400
<v Speaker 2>I said, Oh Joe, how y'all gonna go out on

0:39:57.520 --> 0:40:01.560
<v Speaker 2>a run When your defense is his orally bad. Your

0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:05.759
<v Speaker 2>quarterback literally has to play a perfect game every time

0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:10.200
<v Speaker 2>one turnover, because first of all, your defense is not

0:40:10.320 --> 0:40:13.759
<v Speaker 2>really gonna be able to stop anybody. Now you turn

0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:17.640
<v Speaker 2>the ball over, you give them and if you give

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:21.040
<v Speaker 2>them points on your possession. Oh don't cry, No, no,

0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:25.239
<v Speaker 2>don't cry. Oh no, don't cry. You ain't crying yet, Chad.

0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Don't let it fool you. You should be crying.

0:40:29.800 --> 0:40:33.279
<v Speaker 5>We go Sorry, we're gonna We're gonna be alright, We're

0:40:33.320 --> 0:40:33.920
<v Speaker 5>gonna be all right.

0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:38.040
<v Speaker 3>You know, y'all ain't next year, y'all are gonna be

0:40:38.040 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 3>all right this year?

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:41.360
<v Speaker 5>Hey bad?

0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:43.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, gott the people you have, people in Cincinata

0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:46.120
<v Speaker 2>believe in you man, Oh Joe saying we're gonna be

0:40:46.120 --> 0:40:49.520
<v Speaker 2>all right. Not everybody, not everybody ain't doing nothing but

0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:55.319
<v Speaker 2>eating chilling hot dogs. M hmm, stand up, sit up

0:40:55.360 --> 0:41:01.560
<v Speaker 2>in your chair. God, coach, you blurred. Don't now you

0:41:01.600 --> 0:41:05.359
<v Speaker 2>get you break your hands back into focus. Y'all got

0:41:05.480 --> 0:41:07.759
<v Speaker 2>oh your crime? Bingal bingle? What's y'all?

0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:11.239
<v Speaker 3>Bingo nation, bingle country? What y'all? We'll be back.

0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:12.839
<v Speaker 5>We'll go be back next year.

0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:18.239
<v Speaker 2>That's what Custard said when they send his ass out there.

0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:20.239
<v Speaker 2>He said I'll be back. And they ain't seen it

0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:22.239
<v Speaker 2>there he litle big horning. They ain't seen his ass.

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:22.479
<v Speaker 3>Sense.

0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:24.800
<v Speaker 2>That was an eighteen seventy five, seventy eight what was that?

0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 2>Winning the Little Winter the uh spinning will get on?

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:31.719
<v Speaker 2>I think that was somewhere between seventy five and seven.

0:41:31.800 --> 0:41:32.160
<v Speaker 3>Eight year.

0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:35.200
<v Speaker 5>I don't care, I don't care what nobody's saying that.

0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:38.279
<v Speaker 5>That's okay. We we had a bad season. Sometimes people

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:39.080
<v Speaker 5>have bad seanings.

0:41:39.160 --> 0:41:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes people have some of the greatest players on offense,

0:41:41.960 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, and and sometimes things don't go the way

0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:45.560
<v Speaker 1>you wanted to go.

0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:49.399
<v Speaker 5>Sometimes they're like, hold on, you could talk your ass.

0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:51.840
<v Speaker 3>Are I ain't we finish? We didn't come in for that.

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:55.280
<v Speaker 5>Yo, I'm trying. I'm trying to laugh and keep from crying.

0:41:55.760 --> 0:41:59.040
<v Speaker 5>Let's change. Let's change the topic, man, shoot man.

0:42:00.680 --> 0:42:02.880
<v Speaker 2>No, we ain't fitna changed no topic now is what

0:42:03.040 --> 0:42:06.120
<v Speaker 2>we do. We don't dunk, no chat. Do y'all expect

0:42:06.239 --> 0:42:08.719
<v Speaker 2>not captain dunck or top it? Do y'all expect them

0:42:08.800 --> 0:42:13.000
<v Speaker 2>to move on so quickly? No, lessa, we gotta address it.

0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Your defense is historically bad. They've been bad. But if

0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:22.160
<v Speaker 2>you go back and look at it, the Bengals had

0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:25.160
<v Speaker 2>Kansas City dead the right what happened?

0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:29.360
<v Speaker 3>Gripsack scoop and score touchdown?

0:42:29.920 --> 0:42:33.120
<v Speaker 2>They had the Ravens again dead the right at home?

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:39.560
<v Speaker 2>What happened on Joe Joey b picked Marlon Humphrey. At

0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:43.279
<v Speaker 2>some point in time, even your great numbers can be

0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:47.160
<v Speaker 2>overshadowed if you are the one that puts the ball

0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:47.879
<v Speaker 2>in hard way.

0:42:49.840 --> 0:42:53.319
<v Speaker 3>He's done it. We've seen it. But everybody just wants

0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:56.120
<v Speaker 3>to look at the stats. Oh, he played great.

0:42:56.560 --> 0:42:59.799
<v Speaker 2>What about those three turnovers that gave the other team

0:42:59.880 --> 0:43:03.279
<v Speaker 2>to football or gave the other team points? Do we

0:43:03.520 --> 0:43:06.759
<v Speaker 2>not chount that we counted for everybody else We rip

0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:10.360
<v Speaker 2>quarterbacks that turned the ball over at the end of

0:43:10.400 --> 0:43:15.160
<v Speaker 2>the day. Is his responsibility to take of the football?

0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:15.959
<v Speaker 3>It's greater.

0:43:17.040 --> 0:43:20.439
<v Speaker 1>All this is saying to me is is Joe Burrow

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:22.680
<v Speaker 1>is going to basically have to do He has to.

0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:25.400
<v Speaker 1>He has to put on the Superman cake because our

0:43:25.480 --> 0:43:26.680
<v Speaker 1>defense is playing so bad.

0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:28.440
<v Speaker 5>Right, he has to do it.

0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Shodon is doing if Josh has to do it, and

0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:34.840
<v Speaker 1>he can overcome himself and not make the mistakes he

0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:37.560
<v Speaker 1>made in the past and has his team playing the

0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:39.880
<v Speaker 1>way he has him playing, Joe Burrow has to do

0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:41.560
<v Speaker 1>the same thing, and he has to do with a

0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:43.360
<v Speaker 1>much better supporting cast offensively.

0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:48.640
<v Speaker 5>That's it sounds easy, but it's not easy to do.

0:43:49.200 --> 0:43:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Josh Allen makes it look easy, but it's not easy

0:43:51.680 --> 0:43:54.640
<v Speaker 1>to do. But I understand, honest where you're coming from.

0:43:55.600 --> 0:44:02.120
<v Speaker 2>I I remember when Peyton Manning had defensive and even

0:44:02.360 --> 0:44:06.319
<v Speaker 2>and even he was putting up those numbers. Oh hey man,

0:44:06.400 --> 0:44:08.920
<v Speaker 2>it can't get the done in the big game. Hey, many,

0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:12.760
<v Speaker 2>y'all and y'alla y'alla. Even though his defense was historically bad,

0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:16.080
<v Speaker 2>y'all didn't make the excuse me for Peyton that you

0:44:16.160 --> 0:44:16.919
<v Speaker 2>make for Joe Brown.

0:44:17.239 --> 0:44:21.120
<v Speaker 3>And I just need to know why I got time.

0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:23.960
<v Speaker 5>I took it out to day too. I took it

0:44:24.040 --> 0:44:26.640
<v Speaker 5>after day after we thought you were good.

0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:28.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, I need to tell you. I need you to

0:44:28.600 --> 0:44:31.120
<v Speaker 2>tell me why Why did Joe Burrow getting a pack?

0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:35.399
<v Speaker 5>I said it didn't play well. I said didn't play well.

0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:38.239
<v Speaker 1>Now, when you said about the three turnovers, I just

0:44:38.360 --> 0:44:40.000
<v Speaker 1>wanted to add a little context.

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:41.919
<v Speaker 5>On the turnover and just say they weren't all his fault.

0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:44.600
<v Speaker 5>But on the stash sheet, guess who? Guess whose name

0:44:44.640 --> 0:44:45.440
<v Speaker 5>is by them turnovers?

0:44:47.000 --> 0:44:49.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yoe? When is the strip?

0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:50.160
<v Speaker 5>Hold on?

0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:52.759
<v Speaker 3>When have we not given a script sack to the.

0:44:52.800 --> 0:44:56.120
<v Speaker 5>Corner making the stash sheet? Who are the turnovers on?

0:44:56.480 --> 0:45:01.399
<v Speaker 5>Whose name is there? The quarterback? I know, I'm just saying,

0:45:01.440 --> 0:45:03.160
<v Speaker 5>I'm just I was just trying to give a little

0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:06.600
<v Speaker 5>context on what happened or whatnot. But he didn't play.

0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:08.000
<v Speaker 5>He didn't play as well as he needs to play.

0:45:08.280 --> 0:45:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow needs to understand, and I'm sure he understands,

0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:13.239
<v Speaker 1>and he would have this conversation with his head coach,

0:45:13.320 --> 0:45:14.720
<v Speaker 1>with his officer coordinated.

0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:18.120
<v Speaker 5>And with his quarterback coach. You have to protect the ball.

0:45:19.000 --> 0:45:20.640
<v Speaker 5>You have to in order for us to even have

0:45:20.719 --> 0:45:24.680
<v Speaker 5>a chance to win going on from this season and.

0:45:24.800 --> 0:45:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Later on in the future, you have to be the

0:45:27.560 --> 0:45:29.920
<v Speaker 1>best at protecting the ball and not turning it over

0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:33.560
<v Speaker 1>because if our defense is not playing as well or

0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:36.240
<v Speaker 1>playing the way they played this year at any point,

0:45:36.640 --> 0:45:40.759
<v Speaker 1>there is no way for us to overcome though, no

0:45:41.120 --> 0:45:43.759
<v Speaker 1>zero mistakes, all up.

0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:47.359
<v Speaker 2>And We're not finna move on because I'm not gonna

0:45:47.440 --> 0:45:49.920
<v Speaker 2>let you do this to russ In Russ. You trust

0:45:50.320 --> 0:45:53.760
<v Speaker 2>you say you love Russ. Well, let's give Russ some flowers.

0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:56.480
<v Speaker 5>Box for rush too. Now, don't do that.

0:45:57.200 --> 0:46:02.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you work the Russ twenty nine and thirty eight

0:46:03.200 --> 0:46:07.200
<v Speaker 2>four fourteen, which is a career high three touchdowns, one pick.

0:46:07.880 --> 0:46:13.160
<v Speaker 3>He was sent saytion no today his career high.

0:46:14.320 --> 0:46:17.520
<v Speaker 2>He knew, like, look, as good as our defense is,

0:46:18.120 --> 0:46:23.480
<v Speaker 2>our their offense is going to score. It is incumbent

0:46:23.560 --> 0:46:27.000
<v Speaker 2>upon me as the quarterback and one of the leaders

0:46:27.080 --> 0:46:31.920
<v Speaker 2>of this where he is the de facto leader on offense. Oh,

0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:35.000
<v Speaker 2>we can have our way with these guys boys, and

0:46:35.120 --> 0:46:37.200
<v Speaker 2>think about it. Oh, Joe, you did get some.

0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:40.680
<v Speaker 5>Nice, very nice. That was good.

0:46:40.800 --> 0:46:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Listen, Boom pointed attack nice little jam boom, eyes on,

0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:45.239
<v Speaker 1>eyes on the ball.

0:46:45.800 --> 0:46:49.759
<v Speaker 5>Oh we going another way? I ski, I ski, let's go. Yeah,

0:46:49.840 --> 0:46:52.120
<v Speaker 5>that that was right. I thought listening after that, Jam,

0:46:52.200 --> 0:46:53.680
<v Speaker 5>I thought we was going to run away with the game.

0:46:54.760 --> 0:46:56.399
<v Speaker 3>That was a yeah.

0:46:56.880 --> 0:47:00.560
<v Speaker 2>And I remember, do y'all remember when Peyton was losing

0:47:00.600 --> 0:47:03.680
<v Speaker 2>to Tom Brady, Oh he'll never beat talk and Peyton

0:47:03.760 --> 0:47:06.480
<v Speaker 2>was winning MVP, but Tom was winning Super Bowl.

0:47:06.920 --> 0:47:09.440
<v Speaker 3>Wasn't putting nothing numbers like Peyton, but he was winning.

0:47:09.680 --> 0:47:12.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh, Tom, Peyton never went I remember when he got

0:47:12.120 --> 0:47:14.759
<v Speaker 2>beat forty wasen't nothing by Chad Pennington. He got beat

0:47:14.840 --> 0:47:19.920
<v Speaker 2>by Billy Bowley. Oh, they were just ripping Pate, ripping him.

0:47:20.040 --> 0:47:22.960
<v Speaker 2>His defense weren't very good. He's putting up even in

0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Owner when Peyton talking about I don't I won't, I

0:47:25.960 --> 0:47:28.319
<v Speaker 2>don't want I want championships, I don't want no star

0:47:28.400 --> 0:47:33.200
<v Speaker 2>wards numbers because he feels that Peyton underperformed. And now

0:47:34.239 --> 0:47:38.400
<v Speaker 2>and Peyton go back and look at peyton numbers that

0:47:38.520 --> 0:47:41.200
<v Speaker 2>man won for MVPs and all of them wasn't in

0:47:41.280 --> 0:47:46.560
<v Speaker 2>no Super Bowl seasons. Fans, media light killed him.

0:47:48.520 --> 0:47:49.719
<v Speaker 3>Me too. I was one of them.

0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:53.000
<v Speaker 2>Yep, me too, yep, like you look at what I

0:47:53.080 --> 0:47:59.520
<v Speaker 2>was on CBS. Beat him up. Everybody did. But now, well, Shannon,

0:47:59.719 --> 0:48:03.080
<v Speaker 2>uh his defense, y'all didn't say that. When Peyton had

0:48:03.120 --> 0:48:06.480
<v Speaker 2>a bad defense, y'all just said he couldn't stand up

0:48:06.520 --> 0:48:07.280
<v Speaker 2>to Tom Brady.

0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:09.239
<v Speaker 3>He lost the Super Bowl.

0:48:09.239 --> 0:48:11.320
<v Speaker 2>Gona look at peyton numbers in the Super Bowl, but

0:48:11.440 --> 0:48:13.879
<v Speaker 2>he had that one big six Tracy Porter read it right.

0:48:14.120 --> 0:48:16.680
<v Speaker 2>They came with a zero blintz. He undercut the under

0:48:16.760 --> 0:48:21.200
<v Speaker 2>route and he pached him out. Y'all gotta stop this, y'all.

0:48:21.280 --> 0:48:23.800
<v Speaker 2>Y'all got very very short memory. But what I'm seeing

0:48:23.880 --> 0:48:27.600
<v Speaker 2>over ya, what I'm seeing. If we like somebody, we'll

0:48:27.680 --> 0:48:29.759
<v Speaker 2>make every excuse in the world for him. Yes, I

0:48:29.920 --> 0:48:31.920
<v Speaker 2>don't give a damn what he does or what he

0:48:32.200 --> 0:48:35.200
<v Speaker 2>or she done if we like you, But I'm gonna

0:48:35.200 --> 0:48:37.200
<v Speaker 2>call it straight down the middle. Y'all know how I am. Now,

0:48:37.280 --> 0:48:39.239
<v Speaker 2>y'all get on me and say Chatton, Yes I do,

0:48:39.800 --> 0:48:42.719
<v Speaker 2>y'all know I do. Go back and check my track

0:48:42.800 --> 0:48:44.719
<v Speaker 2>record to see menz If y'all don't think I call

0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:45.080
<v Speaker 2>it down.

0:48:46.040 --> 0:48:50.200
<v Speaker 5>Me too, me too, Yeah, check my track record.

0:48:54.960 --> 0:48:56.160
<v Speaker 3>Us put thus him.

0:48:56.560 --> 0:48:59.040
<v Speaker 2>Russ said, Hey see, but here's the thing, hey, guys

0:48:59.480 --> 0:49:02.880
<v Speaker 2>with people, y'all keep saying, get that man, it's flowers.

0:49:04.360 --> 0:49:07.200
<v Speaker 2>Don't give me my flowers. I'm planting my own damn garden,

0:49:07.960 --> 0:49:10.919
<v Speaker 2>my own damn hold on, and I picked my own.

0:49:11.239 --> 0:49:12.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm tired of y'all.

0:49:12.440 --> 0:49:13.839
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to get people, Russ.

0:49:14.120 --> 0:49:18.239
<v Speaker 2>Plant your own damn flowers, throw your own guarden, hold

0:49:18.280 --> 0:49:22.160
<v Speaker 2>on and pluck your own flowers and put them on display.

0:49:22.560 --> 0:49:24.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't need nobody. Don't give me no more flowers.

0:49:24.320 --> 0:49:24.880
<v Speaker 5>I don't want them.

0:49:25.040 --> 0:49:26.840
<v Speaker 1>I row on guard in the road, but I got

0:49:26.960 --> 0:49:31.000
<v Speaker 1>no paday. I don't need y'all to give my flowers

0:49:31.280 --> 0:49:33.440
<v Speaker 1>because I'm what you say, plant plant my own.

0:49:37.480 --> 0:49:37.680
<v Speaker 4>Guard.

0:49:38.160 --> 0:49:42.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, whatever, whatever, whatever you want, what you want?

0:49:42.600 --> 0:49:46.440
<v Speaker 2>You want roses, you want daisies, opportunia.

0:49:46.680 --> 0:49:47.759
<v Speaker 5>You know what I want?

0:49:49.160 --> 0:49:52.799
<v Speaker 1>I want tulips because hey, yeah, I saw the movie

0:49:53.840 --> 0:49:56.799
<v Speaker 1>and Lena Horn she liked tulips, So I'm gonna give

0:49:56.840 --> 0:49:57.920
<v Speaker 1>me some mother tulips.

0:50:01.880 --> 0:50:02.080
<v Speaker 5>Russ.

0:50:03.200 --> 0:50:07.800
<v Speaker 2>Listen. Russ is in the ideal situation. He's with a

0:50:07.920 --> 0:50:13.400
<v Speaker 2>coach that understands quarterbacks, not that he can coach them,

0:50:13.440 --> 0:50:16.759
<v Speaker 2>but he understands the psyche of a quarterback. And the

0:50:16.880 --> 0:50:18.960
<v Speaker 2>one thing you can't do with a quarterback is beat

0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:22.239
<v Speaker 2>him up mentally. And I think Sean Payton beat him

0:50:22.280 --> 0:50:28.600
<v Speaker 2>up mentally. For whatever reason, Sean never embraced Russ. He

0:50:28.760 --> 0:50:31.719
<v Speaker 2>never gave it, He never gave he tolerated it. He's like,

0:50:31.760 --> 0:50:33.320
<v Speaker 2>I got a year with him, and I'm not so

0:50:33.560 --> 0:50:36.439
<v Speaker 2>sure that Russ could have done anything other than going

0:50:36.480 --> 0:50:39.440
<v Speaker 2>to the Super Bowl that would have ingratiated himself with

0:50:39.600 --> 0:50:43.120
<v Speaker 2>Sean Payton. Sean Payton has a guy now and he

0:50:43.280 --> 0:50:45.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, hey, he has a young guy and young

0:50:45.600 --> 0:50:48.040
<v Speaker 2>guys for the most part, Oh show, they're happy to

0:50:48.120 --> 0:50:50.239
<v Speaker 2>be there even though their first round pick, and they

0:50:50.320 --> 0:50:53.560
<v Speaker 2>can stomach a little more Russell's event. Russ has been

0:50:53.600 --> 0:50:56.880
<v Speaker 2>the Super bowls. Russ is a multiple time Pro Bowl player.

0:50:57.800 --> 0:50:59.360
<v Speaker 2>He's like, why are you talking to me like that?

0:51:02.680 --> 0:51:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Hey, okay, watching obviously you know because you got on

0:51:10.480 --> 0:51:12.800
<v Speaker 1>me about it is. I've been giving Russes flowers for

0:51:12.800 --> 0:51:14.520
<v Speaker 1>a very long time, even when he was in Denver.

0:51:14.719 --> 0:51:17.359
<v Speaker 5>You know, you you you was getting into him because

0:51:17.400 --> 0:51:19.040
<v Speaker 5>the one the way they should be going.

0:51:19.400 --> 0:51:21.720
<v Speaker 1>I always stood on that soul box for Russell Willison

0:51:21.719 --> 0:51:25.360
<v Speaker 1>because I understood there's no way, there's no way that

0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:27.920
<v Speaker 1>a player like Russ that was with the Seattle Seahawks,

0:51:28.000 --> 0:51:30.040
<v Speaker 1>that has played well at a high level for so

0:51:30.120 --> 0:51:31.680
<v Speaker 1>many years and all of a sudden could go to

0:51:31.800 --> 0:51:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Denver and things just weren't right. I think the situation

0:51:35.040 --> 0:51:37.480
<v Speaker 1>and the scenario that he was in, and the pressure

0:51:37.560 --> 0:51:41.560
<v Speaker 1>that Sean Payton, who kept challenging him but rating him

0:51:41.880 --> 0:51:44.759
<v Speaker 1>as a head coach, I didn't. I just knew that

0:51:44.920 --> 0:51:47.600
<v Speaker 1>wasn't the right fit. And I understood once he got

0:51:47.640 --> 0:51:49.839
<v Speaker 1>over there with the Steelers, I said it. As soon

0:51:49.920 --> 0:51:51.720
<v Speaker 1>as he got there, I say, man, this is perfect.

0:51:52.000 --> 0:51:54.560
<v Speaker 1>He's going with the right coach, the right type of coach,

0:51:55.400 --> 0:51:58.360
<v Speaker 1>winning coach with the right mentality that knows how to

0:51:58.440 --> 0:52:02.040
<v Speaker 1>deal with him. And Arthur Smith has put Russell Wilson

0:52:02.440 --> 0:52:05.279
<v Speaker 1>in some great positions and understanding his strengths is in

0:52:05.800 --> 0:52:08.960
<v Speaker 1>his strengths, needed weaknesses, knowing what he can do and

0:52:09.040 --> 0:52:11.400
<v Speaker 1>what he can't do anymore that they used to do

0:52:11.480 --> 0:52:14.279
<v Speaker 1>in Seattle, and it has been paying dividends off of him, man,

0:52:14.360 --> 0:52:15.280
<v Speaker 1>and it's been perfect.

0:52:16.000 --> 0:52:16.720
<v Speaker 5>It's been perfect.

0:52:19.719 --> 0:52:22.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's been he Look he's been, he's been good.

0:52:23.560 --> 0:52:25.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he would have ever been what

0:52:26.080 --> 0:52:29.759
<v Speaker 2>he is right now in Denver with Sean Payton. Look

0:52:30.120 --> 0:52:31.879
<v Speaker 2>that first year, we got to talk that up because

0:52:31.920 --> 0:52:35.680
<v Speaker 2>ain't nobody being good of Nathaniel Hackett. Ain't nobody he

0:52:35.719 --> 0:52:37.759
<v Speaker 2>got fired in Denver and he lost his play calling

0:52:37.840 --> 0:52:40.279
<v Speaker 2>duty in Green Bay. I mean, excuse me and the

0:52:40.400 --> 0:52:42.879
<v Speaker 2>Jets so nobody so we can we can't say say,

0:52:42.960 --> 0:52:45.239
<v Speaker 2>you know what, Russ, we're gonna just that first year.

0:52:45.600 --> 0:52:48.160
<v Speaker 5>Now, whatever happened with you? Like I said, I don't know,

0:52:48.760 --> 0:52:51.120
<v Speaker 5>but it just seems like he was never ingratiated.

0:52:51.680 --> 0:52:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Uh, Sean didn't put his arms around him and like,

0:52:54.000 --> 0:52:56.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm happy to have you as my quarterback for whatever reasons,

0:52:57.480 --> 0:52:59.600
<v Speaker 2>and it was best that they go accept you know,

0:53:00.080 --> 0:53:02.600
<v Speaker 2>you go your way, I go mine, and we're both

0:53:02.680 --> 0:53:05.759
<v Speaker 2>better for it. The Broncos are doing quite well. The

0:53:05.840 --> 0:53:09.040
<v Speaker 2>Pittsburgh Steelers are leading their division. They're doing extremely well.

0:53:09.480 --> 0:53:14.319
<v Speaker 2>And I'm happy for both because this this match wasn't

0:53:14.360 --> 0:53:17.760
<v Speaker 2>gonna work in Denver, not not Russ and Sean Payton.

0:53:18.000 --> 0:53:21.719
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's with somebody else, but not that, but Rus

0:53:22.200 --> 0:53:28.359
<v Speaker 2>Russe needed to go and get Bill. He had to start.

0:53:28.480 --> 0:53:30.200
<v Speaker 2>He had to start. He had to start from scratch.

0:53:31.840 --> 0:53:34.320
<v Speaker 2>He had to start from scratch. And and and what

0:53:34.480 --> 0:53:37.920
<v Speaker 2>better place to go than with Mike Tomlin, who's on

0:53:38.360 --> 0:53:43.200
<v Speaker 2>who's on burn. He has a firm foundation. He ain't

0:53:43.239 --> 0:53:45.200
<v Speaker 2>going nowhere. He ain't going nowhere.

0:53:46.400 --> 0:53:46.680
<v Speaker 3>And so.

0:53:48.640 --> 0:53:51.600
<v Speaker 2>Rogers a long shot. They're talking about potentially uh h,

0:53:52.640 --> 0:53:53.440
<v Speaker 2>I said, so what what?

0:53:53.719 --> 0:53:54.479
<v Speaker 3>What did that article?

0:53:54.960 --> 0:53:57.359
<v Speaker 2>But potentially, like they don't know if he's gonna start

0:53:57.440 --> 0:53:58.799
<v Speaker 2>storry moving forward.

0:54:01.160 --> 0:54:03.000
<v Speaker 5>In favor of who Aaron Rodgers.

0:54:05.000 --> 0:54:07.160
<v Speaker 3>It don't matter because I'm getting the same results.

0:54:08.360 --> 0:54:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Listen, you think about mentioning Aaron Rodgers over there in

0:54:10.719 --> 0:54:13.279
<v Speaker 1>New York right now. He will flip every table. He

0:54:13.400 --> 0:54:16.839
<v Speaker 1>gonna take a bout. That's okay, he gonna be gone

0:54:16.880 --> 0:54:19.319
<v Speaker 1>next year. We'll straight the back up. He gonna be gone.

0:54:20.440 --> 0:54:23.200
<v Speaker 5>They wouldn't, they wouldn't do that. And he's not gonna

0:54:23.239 --> 0:54:23.800
<v Speaker 5>go out quietly.

0:54:23.840 --> 0:54:25.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't see Aaron Rodgers as the type of quarterback

0:54:26.040 --> 0:54:27.920
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna take benching him.

0:54:27.960 --> 0:54:32.120
<v Speaker 5>Well, I don't. I don't see him taking a well, what.

0:54:32.160 --> 0:54:32.640
<v Speaker 3>Are you gonna do?

0:54:33.160 --> 0:54:36.240
<v Speaker 2>Gonna be Matt showing and havered some conspiracial theories.

0:54:37.080 --> 0:54:39.920
<v Speaker 1>That's liberals, ackle fool and making hell while he's there,

0:54:41.640 --> 0:54:43.319
<v Speaker 1>ackle fool and making hell while he's there.

0:54:43.640 --> 0:54:45.239
<v Speaker 5>He just seemed like the type that would do that.

0:54:48.440 --> 0:54:48.879
<v Speaker 3>That's okay.

0:54:50.960 --> 0:54:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he didn't play well, but I'm sure you know,

0:54:54.280 --> 0:54:57.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they'll say he played well. He was twenty

0:54:57.160 --> 0:55:00.279
<v Speaker 2>one of thirty nine one eight five tw This down

0:55:00.320 --> 0:55:03.520
<v Speaker 2>is one of the eceptions. Oh Joe and Seattle try

0:55:03.560 --> 0:55:06.960
<v Speaker 2>to get a game away in the first quarter. I've

0:55:07.040 --> 0:55:11.759
<v Speaker 2>never seen return return and fumbled that many times, and

0:55:13.280 --> 0:55:14.600
<v Speaker 2>I've never seen anything like that.

0:55:14.680 --> 0:55:15.000
<v Speaker 3>O yoe.

0:55:15.960 --> 0:55:21.400
<v Speaker 2>So the very next play began nineteen So from that

0:55:21.600 --> 0:55:26.399
<v Speaker 2>point on, Seattle outscored him nineteen to nothing.

0:55:27.200 --> 0:55:28.680
<v Speaker 3>Rogers had the long shot of return.

0:55:29.160 --> 0:55:33.120
<v Speaker 2>They asked ubric after the game about what's he contemplating

0:55:33.160 --> 0:55:36.279
<v Speaker 2>a quarterback change. Instead of shutting down speculation with a

0:55:36.360 --> 0:55:39.440
<v Speaker 2>direct note, he replied, not know ask of today.

0:55:40.680 --> 0:55:43.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't like answers like that. I don't like what

0:55:43.160 --> 0:55:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Harbor said when they talked about and asked him and

0:55:46.239 --> 0:55:49.920
<v Speaker 1>justin Tucker returning. We want to address that right now.

0:55:50.360 --> 0:55:51.080
<v Speaker 5>Give me right now.

0:55:51.120 --> 0:55:53.400
<v Speaker 1>We talk about the greatest kick of all time. But anyway,

0:55:53.600 --> 0:55:56.320
<v Speaker 1>now back to this topic at hand. Listen, Aaron Rodgers,

0:55:56.360 --> 0:56:00.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean man's man, I mean it's.

0:56:01.719 --> 0:56:02.400
<v Speaker 5>It was bad?

0:56:02.719 --> 0:56:03.480
<v Speaker 3>What did o Joe?

0:56:03.719 --> 0:56:06.439
<v Speaker 2>The man was about to be forty one coming He's

0:56:06.480 --> 0:56:09.480
<v Speaker 2>coming off of an achilles injury with one of the

0:56:09.600 --> 0:56:13.680
<v Speaker 2>toughest injuries for an athlete to overcome. A young athlete,

0:56:14.000 --> 0:56:17.920
<v Speaker 2>imagine one that's forty What did you expect him to

0:56:18.040 --> 0:56:18.440
<v Speaker 2>look like?

0:56:18.719 --> 0:56:18.879
<v Speaker 5>Night?

0:56:20.480 --> 0:56:24.000
<v Speaker 2>But see if you're honest, Oho, anybody that's honest about

0:56:24.120 --> 0:56:28.160
<v Speaker 2>Aaron Rodgers, you labeled a hater and they try to

0:56:28.200 --> 0:56:30.480
<v Speaker 2>make it about all the other things. Go back, and

0:56:30.719 --> 0:56:32.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't need y'all do me in favor. Go back

0:56:32.800 --> 0:56:36.000
<v Speaker 2>and check my track record about Aaron about when I

0:56:36.120 --> 0:56:39.000
<v Speaker 2>was on CBS. I've never denied his ability to throw

0:56:39.040 --> 0:56:43.880
<v Speaker 2>the football. I always catched question. I saw some character

0:56:43.960 --> 0:56:46.759
<v Speaker 2>issues that concerned me, and I'm lieve it at that.

0:56:47.320 --> 0:56:50.680
<v Speaker 2>Now with that being said, he didn't play well. Aaron

0:56:50.800 --> 0:56:54.560
<v Speaker 2>Rodgers has not played well this year, and it's okay

0:56:54.640 --> 0:56:57.160
<v Speaker 2>to say that, o Jo. He's still a four time

0:56:57.239 --> 0:57:00.200
<v Speaker 2>League MVP. He's still a three time first of four

0:57:00.239 --> 0:57:02.920
<v Speaker 2>time first team All Pro. He's still a Super Bowl MVP.

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<v Speaker 2>He's still a transcended historically great quarterback, one of the

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<v Speaker 2>ever greatest quarters. But this year he hasn't played well.

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<v Speaker 2>And all of those accolades that we've done still be

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<v Speaker 2>plenty of you, I mean, and rightfully, so yeah, ain't

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<v Speaker 2>got nothing to do it right.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, you're right by that. You know, it's unfortunate, it's unfortunate.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure we've seen quarterback decline. I don't think we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen quarterback decline in such a manner at you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this fast. I think maybe because of the injury. Due

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<v Speaker 1>to the injury, I think it kind of sped up

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<v Speaker 1>and expedited the process. I was hoping things will work out.

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<v Speaker 1>I was hoping things will work out because I was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the few that said, oh, shoot, Devonte Andrews

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<v Speaker 1>coming to the Jets, Oh they finna be?

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<v Speaker 5>Are they finna be?

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<v Speaker 1>Hell?

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<v Speaker 5>Now, you know, Allan Lazard and him.

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<v Speaker 1>Having the pieces and having Brest Hall, I thought they

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<v Speaker 1>were gonna be all world and having the defense that

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<v Speaker 1>they did have.

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<v Speaker 5>Ah, things aren't. Things aren't the same as hell and

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<v Speaker 5>Rogers playing bad. The goddamn defense ain't too much to

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<v Speaker 5>talk about either.

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<v Speaker 2>But they were hoping that Aaron Rodgers could all because, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>what Peyton you remember? Now, hold on, people remember that

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<v Speaker 2>before the year before Tom Brady got to the Bucks,

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<v Speaker 2>Jamis grew for fifty two hundred yards, fifty one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>yards and thirty touchdowns. Bruce Allen just felt that if

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<v Speaker 2>we minimize the turnovers, we can be able to play

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<v Speaker 2>off team. The year that Peyton got to the Broncos,

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<v Speaker 2>they won the division, but they were eight and eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Peyton comes in, they go thirteen and three, they get

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<v Speaker 2>the number one seed. Now they get knocked out in

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<v Speaker 2>the divisional round, but you see the improvement. The next year,

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<v Speaker 2>Peyton wins MVP, he breaks all the records. They go

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<v Speaker 2>to the Super Bowl. They get demolished, but they did go.

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<v Speaker 2>You see Tampa, every year Brady was there, they make

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<v Speaker 2>the playoffs. So they were expecting. They say, look that

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<v Speaker 2>guy coming in, he should be able to elevate our offense.

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<v Speaker 2>We got Gary Wilson, we got some players. We got

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<v Speaker 2>nice running back with Allen and Breeze Hall. We got

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<v Speaker 2>solid tight ends, not great, but they're good. They're adequate,

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<v Speaker 2>and a defense. But I said one thing, and I

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<v Speaker 2>kept reiterating, I say, you're under the you're under the

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<v Speaker 2>notion that the defense stays exactly the same and there's

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<v Speaker 2>no slippage, because if they're slippage, then what.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh then you you just okay, well listen, there's been

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<v Speaker 1>a slippage and they and then there's no flex all.

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<v Speaker 5>There's no flex all. The Stopper League