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Speaker 2: Oachol Lamar, Jackson Lee all players in initial Pro Bowl vote.
Speaker 2: Lamar has received the most fanned Pro Bowl vote. Sabity
Speaker 2: player Deck Henry is sickond. Next on the list it
Speaker 2: is Sakwon Barkley. Third on the list is Josh Allen.
Speaker 2: Fourth on the list your fourth on the list of
Speaker 2: Josh Allen. So Lamar is one, Deck Henry's two, Sayque
Speaker 2: is three, Josh Allen is four, and Jamiir Gibbs. It's phil.
Speaker 2: Are there any Is there a surprising omission to you?
Speaker 1: I mean no, I mean you look at everybody, look
Speaker 1: at everybody that you name, and look at their resume
Speaker 1: today and what they've done so far this season. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's in the right pecking orders, in the right pecan order.
Speaker 1: I mean some some might switch Josh Allen and Lamar,
Speaker 1: but either way, it's all all. It's all based on
Speaker 1: preference right now. If we if we were to have
Speaker 1: an m v P, I think Josh Allen might be leading.
Speaker 5: Think you that race, you know, so it all it
Speaker 5: all depends.
Speaker 1: And if it's fan voting, if it's player voting, it
Speaker 1: all comes down to preference, especially if it's Pro Bow voting,
Speaker 1: because everybody that you just name, regardless of order, is
Speaker 1: playing phenomenal f in football right now.
Speaker 5: So you can't go wrong no matter what.
Speaker 2: Uh, there's no Patrick Mahomes, there's no Travis Kelcey.
Speaker 5: For obvious reasons.
Speaker 1: I know they have a winning record, but they're not
Speaker 1: playing well from an individual standpoint as a team.
Speaker 5: Yes, individually a matter of fact, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 1: I don't even think I don't even think they would
Speaker 1: be able to go to They won't even be around
Speaker 1: to go to the Pro Bowl anyway.
Speaker 5: Now. They might be playing possum.
Speaker 2: You never know, now, I mean, I don't think I would.
Speaker 2: I don't think they would have earned it. Now, sometimes
Speaker 2: guys get to go a reputation.
Speaker 5: Yeah name alone, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: But if you look at at it said they this
Speaker 2: individual earned the right to participate in the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say no, right, I'm gonna say no. Now
Speaker 2: you take three court first of all three quarterbacks go.
Speaker 2: I don't like the way they do it now because
Speaker 2: they have the Pro Bowl before the before the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: So you know, normally they're the quarterback that makes the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. He's going to be a Pro Bowl player.
Speaker 2: He's not going to go. So that's why you get
Speaker 2: these guys all of a sudden, Oh he's a Pro Bowl, bro.
Speaker 3: He was the ninth alternate. Nobody else wanted to go.
Speaker 2: I mean, and you walk by the time of Joe
Speaker 2: once they're like, now you got that ninth and eight guys.
Speaker 3: Come on, bro, bro.
Speaker 2: They took the backup to Lamar from Baltimore one year.
Speaker 3: To the Pro Bowl. The quarterback.
Speaker 2: Come on, you're taking a backup. You got sixteen starters,
Speaker 2: he'll back up. Nobody else wanted to go. But that's
Speaker 2: on his resume, right. But you're right, I agree with
Speaker 2: everything you say. I don't believe Patrick nor Trauve has
Speaker 2: earned the right. Rock Bowers should be the starting AFC
Speaker 2: at the at the Pro.
Speaker 5: Bowl, at the tight end position, at the tight end position.
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, as absolutely.
Speaker 5: Hey, he's playing really really well, really yeah. And with
Speaker 5: the quarterback carrollsel.
Speaker 2: At that yes, yes, yes, and they getting in the rock.
Speaker 2: But he deserves it.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: Hey, I thought when I watched him as a freshman,
Speaker 2: I said, this guy, I say, this guy can play
Speaker 2: in the league and he gonna and he's really good.
Speaker 5: And then I saw him his sophomore year, I said, yeah,
Speaker 5: he a top ten pick m hm.
Speaker 2: And you can see it his ability to his ability
Speaker 2: to track the football, his ability to run after the catch.
Speaker 2: He can catch it on a crowd. I mean he
Speaker 2: flewid at his side. I mean offensively he has he
Speaker 2: has no weaknesses, right, And that's what you're looking for
Speaker 2: these guys. You got to be able to play in space.
Speaker 2: You got to be a matchup nightmare. And he's a
Speaker 2: matchup nightmare for your safety, for your linebackers, for your corners,
Speaker 2: because of his side, because of his quickness, he's he's
Speaker 2: he's really really good. I mean, he has the potential
Speaker 2: to be historically good. After Jeff's lost his seat to
Speaker 2: the Seahawks, Rogers was asked about his pedestrians to his stick,
Speaker 2: and he was quick to remind everyone is not all
Speaker 2: his fault. There are eleven guys on the field. Sometimes
Speaker 2: it's my fault, definitely multiple times today. And then sometimes
Speaker 2: the details aren't there in other spots. The jet so
Speaker 2: three and nine, they're oh and five. When Rogers has
Speaker 2: a chance to win the game late, he threw a
Speaker 2: brutal pick six. Since twenty twenty two, Rogers ranks thirtieth
Speaker 2: out of thirty five quarterbacks and total qbr o JO.
Speaker 2: At some point in time, Bro, you just got to say, yeah,
Speaker 2: me most quarter when Brady. See the thing is, Brady
Speaker 2: is quick many the great quarterback. And I'm not talking
Speaker 2: about that afagay. I'm talking about the great because I
Speaker 2: think Rogers deserved to be mentioned with those guys they
Speaker 2: ask you about you. I'm not playing well, o Joe, Shanny.
Speaker 2: You know what, Shannon, You're not having your typical year. Yeah, man,
Speaker 2: I ain't playing well. I'm not seeing the ball. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm just not playing well. It's it's and you know,
Speaker 2: I need to take advantage of the opportunities when they're
Speaker 2: presenting themselves. I think sometimes because I'm trying to force it,
Speaker 2: because I feel like the opportunities that I'm that I
Speaker 2: normally would get aren't there.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to magnify that.
Speaker 2: So if I get an opportunity, I'm trying to make
Speaker 2: the opportunities and I can't. I'm trying to make everything
Speaker 2: a home run. Because I'm trying to make everything. I'm
Speaker 2: trying to show everybody that I'm still that guy. That's
Speaker 2: all you have to do. Oh Joe, why mention anybody
Speaker 2: else they ask you about me?
Speaker 1: You're not gonna do that. He's not gonna do that.
Speaker 1: And actually they got the wrong people that are asking
Speaker 1: the questions. You know, if you if you got the
Speaker 1: right person to asking the question, they're gonna ask the
Speaker 1: question in such a way where you had no choice
Speaker 1: but to answer it in a way that we want
Speaker 1: to hear directly. Not around the bush, not about your numbers.
Speaker 1: I'm about specifically when you can't dodge, and you can't
Speaker 1: you can't beat around the bush where you can't even
Speaker 1: mention anybody else because the question is gonna be directly
Speaker 1: pertain to just you not even give you the angle
Speaker 1: to be able to put others in it. Yes, we
Speaker 1: all know it's the team game. But we ain't talk
Speaker 1: about the team right now. We talk about you. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's all in the questioning, all in the questioning.
Speaker 2: It's just it's just tough for him, and it's hat
Speaker 2: Oh yo, when you've been great for a long time
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden you're not great anymore, and
Speaker 2: you see your mortality, Man, I think, hey, he can't
Speaker 2: go get you the three hundred yard games and them
Speaker 2: four touchdown games like he could in Green Bay. He
Speaker 2: can't just whip it when last time you see him
Speaker 2: do this, when last time you see him the discount
Speaker 2: double check.
Speaker 3: Or you know his favorite.
Speaker 5: Things, that little fizz. Yeah, yeah, we ain't get that.
Speaker 5: We might get we might get it next year.
Speaker 3: Well, he must be playing golf or something.
Speaker 1: Listen, wherever he's gonna be playing. I know one thing
Speaker 1: that the Jets don't have no options right now.
Speaker 3: Him on the run.
Speaker 2: They still don't even with him there, They don't have
Speaker 2: an option. Oh Joe, he's about to be forty one.
Speaker 2: He's about to be forty one. At what situation that
Speaker 2: you get better with age playing a professional sport at
Speaker 2: that age. I'm not saying that like when you know,
Speaker 2: oh Joe, you know, you in your twenties and your
Speaker 2: head towards your Brian He's long pass now, So when
Speaker 2: do you start to get better at that a The
Speaker 2: Bears joined the Jets, say as team to fire their
Speaker 2: head coach in the season this year, Ocho, do you
Speaker 2: believe the Chicago Bears will be one of the most
Speaker 2: covety jobs from a head coaching staff, from a head
Speaker 2: coaching position?
Speaker 1: And I I think so simply because you have a quarterback.
Speaker 5: You have a quarterback that you can work with.
Speaker 1: The quarterback has the foundation, he has something that you
Speaker 1: can work with depending on who comes in there, what
Speaker 1: type of offense are you going to have for that four
Speaker 1: said quarterback? Can you find a way to keep DJ
Speaker 1: more happy? Can can you find a way to keep
Speaker 1: kidding that un happy? Adding some more pieces to that
Speaker 1: team offensively? I think it could be a nice, nice job.
Speaker 1: It all depends on who the coach is. I told
Speaker 1: you what I told you, I told you what I said,
Speaker 1: and what I like. Hell, I like goddamn Bill going there. Hell,
Speaker 1: I like goddamn Bill going anywhere. I think all Bill
Speaker 1: needs is it got damn quarterback or organization like Chicago.
Speaker 5: Would be perfect for Bill.
Speaker 1: They're going to give you the keys and allow you
Speaker 1: to do everything you need to do to allow them
Speaker 1: to compete in the NFC again, you know, may be
Speaker 1: the eighty five Bears once again.
Speaker 5: You never know.
Speaker 3: Is he is he going to be able to relate
Speaker 3: to today's Listen.
Speaker 1: One of the greatest things in life that God has
Speaker 1: given everybody is the ability to adapt to their surroundings
Speaker 1: in the errors that they're in.
Speaker 5: I'm sure he will be able.
Speaker 2: To how malleable has he been, how malleable has he
Speaker 2: been in his career?
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't he do it in New England? Then if
Speaker 3: he's so either to.
Speaker 5: The adapt and I can't, I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't answer that for him would.
Speaker 5: Have that kind of success that anything you do?
Speaker 2: What did he adapt to? He was rigid in hard line,
Speaker 2: but what did you adapt?
Speaker 5: We we're in different times.
Speaker 1: I think Bill understands we're in different times and in
Speaker 1: order for you to have that same success, some of
Speaker 1: the things that you used to doing, you got to
Speaker 1: do them different. I think he understands that by looking
Speaker 1: at the landscape and seeing way. Well, you know what,
Speaker 1: I got to approach it differently if I get the
Speaker 1: opportunity to be a head coach again, because this is
Speaker 1: how the day's players are.
Speaker 2: I can see I'm the coach. He's what he's going
Speaker 2: because now he's forced to do that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, sometimes that's what it takes. Some sometimes sometimes.
Speaker 1: Sometimes that Sometimes it has to be against the wall
Speaker 1: for you to see things differently and changing perspective.
Speaker 5: In the way you do.
Speaker 1: Hell, my back benegain you before, I have nothing to
Speaker 1: do with the game of football. My back has been
Speaker 1: against the wall before. It ain't had nothing to do
Speaker 1: with the game of football.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 1: Okay, if I don't straight if I straight about right now,
Speaker 1: you already know what the end result is.
Speaker 2: I still believe the greatest, the greatest Peter's fible is adaptability.
Speaker 5: Got to.
Speaker 2: It's not size, it's not strength, it's not speed. It's
Speaker 2: being able to adapt to the ever of changing.
Speaker 1: And there are two things that can get away around you.
Speaker 1: He going your pride, You going your pride, and getting
Speaker 1: away of that if you're able to compartmentalize and set
Speaker 1: those aside and understanding whatever that end goal may be
Speaker 1: and isn't. It doesn't just have to be football. You
Speaker 1: don't have to be you shoe coaching. I'm about just
Speaker 1: life in general. Sitting that pride of you go aside
Speaker 1: for the betterment of whatever end goal you're trying to reach.
Speaker 5: It'll help.
Speaker 2: I think if if he's gonna have to be that,
Speaker 2: he's gonna have to be that kind of that coach
Speaker 2: Belichick that's on the inside of the NFL, and he
Speaker 2: can't be so rigid and he can't be so structured.
Speaker 2: Then he can't be so what he was in New England.
Speaker 2: First of all, he doesn't have Tom Brady running inn
Speaker 2: affairs for him anymore. Yeah, because Tom was the Patriot.
Speaker 2: Way you heard the guys.
Speaker 3: Bill was not coach.
Speaker 5: But we played from my camera getting blurry.
Speaker 3: Hello, it's still blurry.
Speaker 5: Whoa man?
Speaker 2: Get your kill?
Speaker 3: A toy?
Speaker 2: Hand's face up? Back up by the camera, man, man
Speaker 2: back up. Yeah that's better.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you need a shame to see him? Why don't
Speaker 3: right there?
Speaker 2: Yeah you do, Yeah you do.
Speaker 3: I ain't even know. I ain't raise.
Speaker 5: No, that's all clean la tour. Hey, the counsels clean.
Speaker 1: I just need a haircut once I clean that up.
Speaker 1: Put a little sea and you got your U S
Speaker 1: bree You know what sea breeze is? Hey put a
Speaker 1: little sea bree.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I look good, Oh Joe.
Speaker 5: Kyle Shanahan said, Christian McCaffrey suffered the potentially.
Speaker 1: Season the non contact or was it previously when he
Speaker 1: got tripped up?
Speaker 5: You think it happened.
Speaker 2: They showed they showed that play, but you knew as
Speaker 2: soon as like that knee buckle when he took off.
Speaker 2: You could see that knee buckle and then he like
Speaker 2: gave himself up, so you knew something.
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, did it? Is it? The key leads?
Speaker 3: Did the calv go?
Speaker 2: Uh? But Kyle Shanahan just said this press conference kissed
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey. So for the potentially seasoned ending, it's over
Speaker 2: that he just had the I think it wasn't right,
Speaker 2: think it was the right one. No, he had a
Speaker 2: he had a calf injury that led into his achiles
Speaker 2: and and the think, oh Joe, And you know the
Speaker 2: thing is is that I would say all the time,
Speaker 2: if you limp into the season, oh you limping out
Speaker 2: of it? You get healthy during the Season's impossible. The
Speaker 2: number one thing when anybody have surgery or anybody have
Speaker 2: an injury, What did they tell you? The most important
Speaker 2: thing on your rest?
Speaker 3: How you get rest? Keep working the dog craft out
Speaker 3: of you.
Speaker 5: Listen they do.
Speaker 1: They can only take you so much because in order
Speaker 1: to get you back to the playing speed and get
Speaker 1: you acclimated to game tempo, you got some type of
Speaker 1: work you got to work because once they put you
Speaker 1: out there, you got to put that work with You're
Speaker 1: firing a them boys, moving them boys they do.
Speaker 5: Damn, I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm saying for mold. Prayers
Speaker 5: up the LA's see.
Speaker 2: Macmuh the game of the day. The Eagles defeated the
Speaker 2: Ravens twenty four nineteen. Justin Tucker has lost multiple games
Speaker 2: this season and left seven points off the board tonight.
Speaker 2: He continued this season long struggles by missing two field
Speaker 2: goals and a pat one from forty seven, one from
Speaker 2: forty three. His two fail field goals came in the
Speaker 2: third when Baltimore trailed fourteen to twelve. If this is
Speaker 2: the first time that he's missed three kicks in a game,
Speaker 2: and he put Major Dan and the AFC in the
Speaker 2: Ravens opportunity to win the North. Tucker's missed eight field goals,
Speaker 2: but he's missed ten kicks, if I'm not mistaken, eight
Speaker 2: field goals and two PAHs this season, which is a
Speaker 2: single season high. Harbard is sticking with Tucker. We saw
Speaker 2: him go to them on the sideline say we believe
Speaker 2: in you. You hugged him. If you're asking me, are
Speaker 2: we going to move on from justin Tucker, I'm not
Speaker 2: really planning.
Speaker 5: That right now.
Speaker 3: I don't think that would be Why do you hear.
Speaker 5: The key words you just said. I don't like that.
Speaker 5: I don't like that. Did he say right now or
Speaker 5: did you just add that in here?
Speaker 3: No, he said that right now. I don't plan on
Speaker 3: doing that right now.
Speaker 2: Don't I'm not really planning on doing that right now.
Speaker 2: I don't think that be wise.
Speaker 5: I don't like that. Listen, let me let me tell
Speaker 5: you something. Let me tell you something. Also also the
Speaker 5: chat chat, y'all listen to me.
Speaker 1: Now. I know I play around a lot, you know
Speaker 1: when it comes to saying some of the things that
Speaker 1: I've done. But only you know my history and my
Speaker 1: resume as a kicker, especially in the NFL.
Speaker 5: I know what that feels like.
Speaker 1: I understand the pressures that go into what Justin Tucker
Speaker 1: is going through right now. I understand the pressures of
Speaker 1: already having the moniker being the greatest kicker of all
Speaker 1: time based on what you did in the past. But
Speaker 1: what you've done in the past when it comes to
Speaker 1: the NFL is always yeah. I ain't got none doing
Speaker 1: that for me lately. Right now, I don't watch much baseball,
Speaker 1: but I can tell what Justin is in.
Speaker 5: He's in a slump. He's in a slump sometimes.
Speaker 3: Huh. He got the yips right now.
Speaker 1: Right now, Justin Tucker is in a slump. And you
Speaker 1: know what happened when players in a slump, it gets
Speaker 1: to you.
Speaker 5: Here, you got to be.
Speaker 1: Mentally strong he is, for one, and know what to
Speaker 1: get back into rhythm, to get back to what you
Speaker 1: were doing in the past, being the Justin Tucker that
Speaker 1: we're used to seeing.
Speaker 5: You got to envision that mother up here right now.
Speaker 5: It's getting to it. He think about missing the kicks
Speaker 5: before he even kicking the ball, which is why he's
Speaker 5: missing the kicks.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: And it's always and they seem to be always very
Speaker 2: into the left. He's always very mechanic. It's kind of
Speaker 2: like all mechanics.
Speaker 1: That's all mechanics on your follow through, on your swing,
Speaker 1: you gotta stop your leg at a certain point if
Speaker 1: it's always being to the left. If anything, adjust adjust
Speaker 1: your split, adjust your linement. Face the ball up a
Speaker 1: different way. Because everything is happening and reoccur in the
Speaker 1: same way.
Speaker 5: Kickers watch film. I'm a kicker. I'm telling you. I
Speaker 5: know some of you might laugh at me. I'm serious.
Speaker 5: I know, I know what it is.
Speaker 1: I know what Justin Tucker's going through. He's going to
Speaker 1: be all right. I don't like the words that Harpall said.
Speaker 3: You don't.
Speaker 1: You don't do the best thock in the world like
Speaker 1: that just because he's going through a slump, because you
Speaker 1: have quarterbacks.
Speaker 5: Quarterback go through slump too. Sometimes even the best go
Speaker 5: through a bad.
Speaker 1: Season or bad sting your games where they just can't
Speaker 1: get themselves out of a funk. But at some point
Speaker 1: they turn it around, especially at the position. Once he
Speaker 1: gets it here, you got the visualize it here. Once
Speaker 1: you visualize it here and get that confidence back, he'll
Speaker 1: be fine.
Speaker 2: The question is is he gonna get it back this year?
Speaker 2: Because it doesn't matter if he gets it back next
Speaker 2: year because they're trying to make the playoffs this year.
Speaker 3: And how many times have the Ravens.
Speaker 2: He kicked the Ravens to the Super Bowl as a rookie,
Speaker 2: as an undrafted rookie.
Speaker 3: He went to Denver and made the game win. He kicked.
Speaker 2: And that launched him. That put him on his way.
Speaker 2: We've seen guys. You mentioned the sport. You go back
Speaker 2: and look at golf. You look at David Dubal Duvall,
Speaker 2: You look at Ian Baker Finch, they had the yips.
Speaker 2: You mentioned baseball. Look at Chuck knock Block, Look at
Speaker 2: Rick and kell Rick am Kell had to move to
Speaker 2: the outfield because he couldn't get the ball over home plate.
Speaker 2: Chuck knod Block could not throw the ball. He's a
Speaker 2: second base. He could not throw it to the first basement.
Speaker 2: Steve Sacks had a similar situation.
Speaker 3: It's half.
Speaker 2: We've seen guys do it, and they David Duball left,
Speaker 2: Ian Baker Fitz then ended up leaving because they couldn't puns.
Speaker 2: Freak and kill moved to the outfield because he could
Speaker 2: not throw the ball over the plate. It's and it's
Speaker 2: and it's it's it's it's it's tough. Lamar Jackson did
Speaker 2: not play a good game today. Oho uh, he really
Speaker 2: never found this rhythm. Had most multiple fumbles, but he
Speaker 2: recovered those had a lot of overthrows he had.
Speaker 3: He had likely he could have hit likely on that.
Speaker 5: Player him a little bit yeah, yes, oh yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit likely.
Speaker 2: Stop running like well he gotta be throwing that at
Speaker 2: somebody else because he hey, he run it, he throw
Speaker 2: what the ball going through? He just stopped me like
Speaker 2: with somebody out in in front of me, and then
Speaker 2: he come back and then defumbled the ball.
Speaker 3: He was six and fifteen on third down.
Speaker 2: The touchdown that they got, oh cho, that was late
Speaker 2: in the game because if they don't get that touchdown
Speaker 2: the shut out in the second half. Lamar said his
Speaker 2: mother cursed him out after the game for not running
Speaker 2: more and not hitting the running lades. The Ravens finished
Speaker 2: two or five in the red zone. You know what,
Speaker 2: he didn't play well today on a day in which
Speaker 2: the defense they held, they held, they held and held.
Speaker 3: And they was needing Lamar to be Lamar. You know what.
Speaker 1: It didn't happen for him to days that watched the
Speaker 1: night I love Lamar I love that Lamar has proved that,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not just a run of the ball.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shure you I can pass. I'm gonna show
Speaker 1: you I can pass. Listen, I know you could pass
Speaker 1: the ball, young bull. But I need you to be special.
Speaker 1: You know, on nights like to night and games like
Speaker 1: to night, I need you to be special of what
Speaker 1: makes you you. I need you to do what you
Speaker 1: was doing at Boyd and Beach High School when I
Speaker 1: used to go watch it out there when you was
Speaker 1: a legit. Take off with the ball, baby, if it
Speaker 1: ain't there. Sometimes you got to go through progression one,
Speaker 1: two and three. Sometime you can look at one. If
Speaker 1: one ain't there, man, take off and go with that thing, bry.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you got to go off script. Sometimes you got
Speaker 1: to go off script and do what makes you you
Speaker 1: your specially your two time MVP. For a reason, I
Speaker 1: would have loved to see the Ravens win the game tonight.
Speaker 1: I would have loved for it, especially when your kicker
Speaker 1: is not playing as well as he should be. Who
Speaker 1: has to overcome that right number eight, when Lamar is
Speaker 1: the one that has to overcome justin Tucker not playing
Speaker 1: as good as you should be. So those points you're missing,
Speaker 1: that puts the pressure to oners back on the quarterback
Speaker 1: to overcome the kickers woes.
Speaker 5: Sometimes you don't that being the pass of boy drop back.
Speaker 5: If that's sitay there man, take off of that.
Speaker 3: I'm try to.
Speaker 5: Prove a point I forgive you.
Speaker 2: I do I do think sometimes Lamar tries to prove
Speaker 2: foball ready at the back of doing what you do
Speaker 2: then cares who Okay? So why does mom cussing him out?
Speaker 5: You know what you said?
Speaker 1: Right well, when you see the run of lanes, what
Speaker 1: take off and do what you do?
Speaker 4: What you mean?
Speaker 5: You dangerous, Jessics James you are You've already shot us.
Speaker 1: You're just as dangerous with your arm as you are
Speaker 1: with your legs. But tonight is the night where we
Speaker 1: needed your legs, not your arm.
Speaker 2: But we had this conversation in the AFC Championship game.
Speaker 2: You asked after the game, why did Lamar run?
Speaker 3: More? So?
Speaker 2: Why do we keep having these conversations in these big,
Speaker 2: meaningful games where we keep saying, Lamar, why aren't you
Speaker 2: running the football more? Why are we continuously having these conversations?
Speaker 5: O Joe, I don't know, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 5: know who.
Speaker 3: So what, because what are you trying to prove?
Speaker 5: Who?
Speaker 2: Can you proved that you led the league in touchdown passes.
Speaker 2: You got twenty nine touchdown passes. It's gonna be you
Speaker 2: and burn Joe Burrow probably the league in touchdown passes
Speaker 2: this year. At this point in time, the only thing
Speaker 2: left for you to prove, Lamar is that you can
Speaker 2: get to in winnings through That's it.
Speaker 3: That's it. That's not necessary.
Speaker 5: On throwing it, running it, crawling, it will chair. I
Speaker 5: don't care.
Speaker 1: I don't care how you got to get there, Go
Speaker 1: samn and just get there so we can get these
Speaker 1: mothers off your back.
Speaker 5: By anything.
Speaker 2: There will come a time. There will come a time
Speaker 2: that he will need to like I'm gonna force Lamar
Speaker 2: Jackson to throw the foot. I'm a foreign believer that
Speaker 2: I would rather. I know he can kill me with
Speaker 2: his leg. I just can't let him outside the pocket.
Speaker 2: I can't let him. I can't let him outside the pocket, Ojo,
Speaker 2: because he's too dangerous oute there and he can throw
Speaker 2: the ball over my head.
Speaker 3: So I gotta keep him in. I gotta keep him
Speaker 3: in the box.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm gonna try to make sure that I got
Speaker 2: a spy to entice him, like, Okay, I got somebody's
Speaker 2: spying and I want him. I want to trick him
Speaker 2: into thinking, yeah, go ahead, throw from the pocket. But
Speaker 2: you're playing into my hands because that's really why I
Speaker 2: want you anyway.
Speaker 1: But listen this, this is a good thing about it. This
Speaker 1: is a good thing about the evolution of Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: This is about how good he's gotten even as a
Speaker 1: pocket passes. Okay, you want to put a spy okay back, okay, boom.
Speaker 5: You want to hear your dns, rush your field and
Speaker 5: keep contained. But I can beat you from the pocket.
Speaker 5: I proved it.
Speaker 1: I can beat you from the pocket and be a
Speaker 1: throw of the ball. I then showed you I can
Speaker 1: drop back, I could be a shotgun.
Speaker 5: I can RBO.
Speaker 1: I could I play action faith and read through my
Speaker 1: progressions for one to three, I can't even come back
Speaker 1: to one that I got enough time. I can buy
Speaker 1: myself time, I can go script. I can do all
Speaker 1: these different things from the pocket.
Speaker 5: So now that makes me that much more dangerous and
Speaker 5: multi dimensional from the quarterback position. I just don't like
Speaker 5: the fact that to me.
Speaker 1: It seems like sometimes Lamar wants to prove, especially tonight,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you I can beat you with my arm.
Speaker 5: When we know how to push you all with your legs.
Speaker 3: I've tried.
Speaker 5: It's a reason God gave you that gift. I need
Speaker 5: you again, I know, I know, mar gonna see that.
Speaker 1: Goa se this boy. I need you like you did
Speaker 1: when he was at Boy and Beach. Huh stop playing
Speaker 1: now come on? Oh matter of fact, Oh wait, wait
Speaker 1: wait the Ravens lost night. Can you please tell me
Speaker 1: how many carried Derek Henry had.
Speaker 3: U d Henry had nineteen.
Speaker 5: Go in the sixteen yard mark. He was older.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thirty two they had. They had thirty two
Speaker 2: rush attempts for one hundred and sixty six yards, which
Speaker 2: say you can live with that. Lamar was twenty three
Speaker 2: or thirty six? Two thirty seven? Uh, he got sacked
Speaker 2: three times. I thought, I thought the Eagles d line
Speaker 2: did an unbelievable job of getting out there.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Jalen Carter as a monster.
Speaker 2: This is what I this is what Jalen Carter was
Speaker 2: supposed to be a top five pick. I'm not so
Speaker 2: sure he was had he not had all those off
Speaker 2: the field transgressions while he was in college. He the
Speaker 2: top He's a top three talent. He could rush the
Speaker 2: path and he can stop the run. He's relentless. He's
Speaker 2: starting to see just how good he can beat. He's
Speaker 2: the guy that you start, sir. But I thought their
Speaker 2: defensive line did an unbelievable job of rushing but containing. Lamar, Lamar, Look, Lamark,
Speaker 2: you can't jump. You can't run up the field on him.
Speaker 2: Now jump out the window on you. But I thought sweat,
Speaker 2: and I thought some of those other guys did an
Speaker 2: unbelievable job for they got a that Broun, that's not
Speaker 2: that's a fifty three.
Speaker 5: Well he nice bore, Hey, he nice wore.
Speaker 2: The Steelers defeated the Bengals forty four to thirty eight shootout.
Speaker 2: Not only did the defense off excuse me, the offense
Speaker 2: moved the ball it will, but the Steelers defense forced
Speaker 2: three turnovers, including a fourth quarter scoop and score by
Speaker 2: Peyton Wilson. Pickins led to Steelers with seventy four yards
Speaker 2: receiving on three catches with a touchdown, but drew a
Speaker 2: fifteen but drew fifteen yard penoties after two of its catches.
Speaker 2: After the game, Pickins said there was anything he needed
Speaker 2: to do differently in those situations. Tomlin said, he just
Speaker 2: got to grow up. This is an emotional game. These
Speaker 2: divisional games are big. He got a target on his
Speaker 2: back because he's joy George. He understands that. But he's
Speaker 2: got to grow up. He's just got to grow up
Speaker 2: and hurry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, George, George, listen, I'm ana hit young bull. I
Speaker 1: got I got Georgie number. I'm gonna talk to him.
Speaker 5: Listen.
Speaker 1: Take some of that, Take some of that fun, you know,
Speaker 1: some of that energy that you display, that is that
Speaker 1: is that you're being penalized for, and turn that into entertainment.
Speaker 5: Turn it into entertainment. It's okay to be the villain.
Speaker 5: Enjoy being a villain. Embrace being the villain.
Speaker 1: But do it in a way where it's organized chaos
Speaker 1: within the game of football. Have fun within the game
Speaker 1: of football without having to get those penoties. I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: it's gonna pay dividends in the long run. He has
Speaker 1: to understand that, you know, the gun gesture, you know
Speaker 1: in the end zone, you know after after.
Speaker 2: You can't but but you know you can't do that.
Speaker 2: And I know Chad Fans, I know Eric Gunn and
Speaker 2: bullets don't kill anybody. But the NFL we don't want that.
Speaker 2: If you're boss, tell you cannot come to work with
Speaker 2: Kathy Khakis. Don't frame your ass to work with Kakis.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't get it.
Speaker 3: O yo.
Speaker 2: We knew, oh yo, if we wore our socks a
Speaker 2: certain height, the NFL said, we want your bulley, we
Speaker 2: want your knees covered. I expected to get a fine
Speaker 2: if I met more than two planes and I didn't
Speaker 2: pull my socks up.
Speaker 3: But you can't say, well, what did the suck?
Speaker 2: And I said, and I used to ask all the time,
Speaker 2: what does my socks got to do? They say, Shannon,
Speaker 2: we want uniformity. They say, Shannon, if we let you
Speaker 2: do yours, and then somebody gonna come out there with foot,
Speaker 2: and then somebody gonna come out here, and then everybody
Speaker 2: gonna start to looking like an all tournament team. They
Speaker 2: say we want to We say we want everybody. We
Speaker 2: want every we want uniform with Shannon. We're the National
Speaker 2: Football League and we're trying to fit example, I say, okay,
Speaker 2: but oh cho, they you remember they cut that out
Speaker 2: before you got to the league. The throat slashes just
Speaker 2: they cut that out, John, They cut that out. Anything
Speaker 2: anything violent or sexual in nature. Aaron humping. Ain't got
Speaker 2: nothing to Nobody ever got breaked about air humping, No dude,
Speaker 2: try no dry hunting. But they cut it out. Those
Speaker 2: peak fans, please stop saying because.
Speaker 3: You know the room, George knows the room. You do that.
Speaker 1: See, outside of knowing the rules, you got to understand
Speaker 1: and to remember those rules when you engage in war.
Speaker 5: At the time of war, when you plan. He said,
Speaker 5: you got to remember that. All he needed to do.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Uncle, I'm gonna talk to him. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna talk to him. I'm gonna hit it tomorrow.
Speaker 5: I'm bruh.
Speaker 1: You need to take that same energy and the stuff
Speaker 1: you want to do and turn it into something else
Speaker 1: in a fun entertainment type of way where it's it's
Speaker 1: engaging for us and for those watching, where it doesn't
Speaker 1: cost your team. There's a way to do it. I'm
Speaker 1: massive that you know there's a way to do it.
Speaker 1: You know, as far as your player is concerned, and
Speaker 1: you're good, keep on playing ball. But I don't want
Speaker 1: this is what I don't want because the young, because
Speaker 1: the young. So coach Tomin has to be careful with
Speaker 1: what he say because you don't want to lose a
Speaker 1: player like that up here, huh up here. You don't
Speaker 1: want to take too much. You don't want to pull
Speaker 1: the reins back too much hard because you're gonna lose
Speaker 1: what makes George picking George pickens.
Speaker 5: But you can't hurt the team like that, though, you can't.
Speaker 5: You can't thank you.
Speaker 2: We just saw this on Thursday with Jamison with Williams.
Speaker 2: We just saw it Thursday way he threw the ball
Speaker 2: in the remember on the sideline. We just saw it.
Speaker 2: Oh yo, If even if I'm speeding, if I'm going
Speaker 2: eight in the school zone, I can't tell them ain't
Speaker 2: no kids in school. You can't go eight in the
Speaker 2: school in the school zone. It's still a school zone,
Speaker 2: whether the kids are in school or not. You can't
Speaker 2: make that gesture, even if you have no gun, even
Speaker 2: if there is no bullet. You can't make a sexual gesture.
Speaker 2: You can't make a violent gesture. So please chat, Please,
Speaker 2: people stay off the internet talking about ain't no guns.
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody else been killed by that? They touch you
Speaker 2: can't do it. The league says, we're going to penalize you.
Speaker 2: But it's not the league penalizing you. You're penalizing your
Speaker 2: team and it hurts its day.
Speaker 1: What happened to you when it matters most, and that's yeah,
Speaker 1: when you leave.
Speaker 2: The expected you get an unsportd like conduct penalty? And
Speaker 2: now what was a field goal? They back you up
Speaker 2: because a lot of times, Ojo, that's after the fact.
Speaker 3: Now they back you up. What happens if it's second.
Speaker 2: Down and you get one of those, the down counts
Speaker 2: so and now instead of being second and five, is
Speaker 2: second and twenty, or it's third and five, third and twenty,
Speaker 2: it's third and fifteen. You see, it's things like that
Speaker 2: you have to you have to think about in real time.
Speaker 3: Ojo.
Speaker 2: It's too late for you and I to have this conversation, said,
Speaker 2: oh Jo. We tried to tell him.
Speaker 3: It's too late. It's too late. So just learn.
Speaker 2: From others from that have made those mistakes, so you
Speaker 2: don't have to be a footnote got a cost of penalty?
Speaker 2: I don't, oh Joe, but I try to tell you now.
Speaker 2: Now people will tell you Joe Burrow played great. Oh Jo,
Speaker 2: might come out here and tell you. Joe Barro played
Speaker 2: great his defense. If your defense is bad, Ojo, as
Speaker 2: an offense, what can't you do with your defense?
Speaker 1: Tell the people at home how many turnovers? But before
Speaker 1: you say that, how.
Speaker 2: Many did they leave? How many points did they lead?
Speaker 2: You to the sweve?
Speaker 5: Twenty one with seventeen?
Speaker 3: How much?
Speaker 2: How many they got a scooping score and they got
Speaker 2: a field go right before that?
Speaker 5: That's ten. That's ten points, right, I say something real quick?
Speaker 1: Yes, for the chat, for a better contence, you need
Speaker 1: get Let me get energize real quick. You know it's
Speaker 1: hard for me to defend my bangles. It's hard for
Speaker 1: me to defend my bangles. But for better context, in
Speaker 1: those turnovers, now, one was a tip Cam Hayward tipped
Speaker 1: it boom, pick scoop and score boom running with the ball.
Speaker 5: TJ. Watt, great play, And I think it was a
Speaker 5: high smith. Is a high smith that beat Orlando Brown
Speaker 5: off the edge?
Speaker 3: Hey?
Speaker 2: Maron, Yeah, all they was It might have been the
Speaker 2: other guy, the other guy I think it was, like it.
Speaker 3: Might have been.
Speaker 2: It might have been fifty one Wilson. He might have
Speaker 2: called the Zachs.
Speaker 1: Listen, but one in that scenario, Orlando Brown. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure what the Bengals are doing. There's no reason why
Speaker 1: Lando Brown should be on the field if he can't walk.
Speaker 1: If he can't if you can't walk, that means you
Speaker 1: can't play left tackle. There's no reason should be on
Speaker 1: the field. But if you are on the on the field,
Speaker 1: then that's the owners is on the offensive line or
Speaker 1: the guy damn off of the coordinator.
Speaker 5: Hell lets slide protection that way because he's not fully healthy.
Speaker 5: Obviously we saw over there. We gotta leave men by
Speaker 5: itself on one. Yes, I know, I listen to me.
Speaker 5: Oh well, that TJDJ about to break in. What happened?
Speaker 5: What happened that cost us that call?
Speaker 1: If he's heard, goddamn fly left put the running back
Speaker 1: up there, and goddamn Chip got put the tight end
Speaker 1: over there, and Chip, you got to do something to
Speaker 1: help him.
Speaker 5: If you have a play out there that is heard
Speaker 5: and it cost us offensively.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 2: That was a scooping score, O Joe, But your guy
Speaker 2: has got to take care of the football.
Speaker 3: Oh Joe.
Speaker 2: You know, if your defense, if your defense you have
Speaker 2: one of the two or three worst defensive football, you
Speaker 2: can't turn it.
Speaker 1: Listen there's nothing gonna say. There's nothing not gonna say
Speaker 1: about that. But it is it blindside though, that that
Speaker 1: is his blindside. He has no idea that two seconds
Speaker 1: after the snap that somebody's barreling down and knocking the
Speaker 1: ball out his hands.
Speaker 5: Again, you got listened. I'm not making no excuses. You
Speaker 5: got to have two hands on the ball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you do that, Aldo, So I can make that
Speaker 2: case for Daniel Jones, all them sacks that ain't on
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones, all those turnovers, every quarterback that turned the
Speaker 2: ball over, because what they're doing is that you make
Speaker 2: an excuses for Joy b because they had three passing,
Speaker 2: three touchdown.
Speaker 5: I was just giving you a better context happen.
Speaker 2: So who cares, sir? Did he have the ball in
Speaker 2: his hand? So all those fumbles and interceptions that what
Speaker 2: you call them, we see. We saw Patrick Mahomes two
Speaker 2: years ago. How many karms did he He has seven
Speaker 2: interceptions and like three or four pick sixes that went
Speaker 2: through the receiver's hands when you fumbled the ball and
Speaker 2: your defense is bad. All I know is this, Patrick
Speaker 2: Mahomes got to the Super Bowl with the second with
Speaker 2: the second or third worst defense in the NFL. That
Speaker 2: is the bargains because what has happened is that we've
Speaker 2: allowed Joe Burrow, and he's a really good, he's great quarterback,
Speaker 2: but we allowed that one year run to tain us
Speaker 2: because we feel he can do no wrong. Because every
Speaker 2: year he's ranked above Lamar. Lamar is more accomplished than
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow. We rank him all head of Josh Allen.
Speaker 2: He throws a beautiful ball, he puts up big numbers,
Speaker 2: but at what point in time do we hold him
Speaker 2: accountable like we have all the other great quarterbacks that
Speaker 2: haven't fulfilled the promise of what we expected them to
Speaker 2: be because we make excuse me, we're like, well, his
Speaker 2: blind side, yet myhomes offensive line, if myhome's offensive.
Speaker 5: Line any work, fat tackles bad.
Speaker 3: One team got.
Speaker 2: Eleven to one record, and so and that's the thing
Speaker 2: when you just look, if you Ojo, if you just
Speaker 2: looked at the stats, you're like, this man threw for
Speaker 2: three h nine and three touchdowns, but he had a
Speaker 2: he had a scooping score that the ball was in
Speaker 2: his hand that gave him that gave him seven points,
Speaker 2: and then he had another funder that gave him ten points.
Speaker 2: So now if I take those two points off the board,
Speaker 2: how many points did they They scored forty four. If
Speaker 2: I take those tens, Cincinnati scored thirty eight, they win
Speaker 2: the game thirty eight thirty four.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right. Listen, listen, I'm already hurting right now
Speaker 5: as it is.
Speaker 3: You know I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't need you to continue to to pour salt
Speaker 1: my wounds. I know, I know because I'm I've been
Speaker 1: on I've been on my soul talk joke, and I've
Speaker 1: been continued to let down. I've been continued, let down,
Speaker 1: weak out.
Speaker 3: Huh, We'll get your ass off it.
Speaker 5: I'm off of it.
Speaker 2: Because you know, you know, the higher you up you are,
Speaker 2: the easy you easier target you to head when snipers shooting,
Speaker 2: what do they try to do. See when snipers are shooting,
Speaker 2: they at a higher elevation. But when you show your head,
Speaker 2: that's what they can put that thing on you. You
Speaker 2: better get low to the ground, get off the box.
Speaker 2: Say hey, god, hey man, I thought my biggest it's
Speaker 2: all for you know, it's something going to be better.
Speaker 2: I matter of fact, and listen, I would listening to
Speaker 2: the Joe. Joe said we could win seven of the
Speaker 2: last nine, there's a possibility. So when he said that
Speaker 2: in front of them, I was hype.
Speaker 5: How I was hype?
Speaker 1: I was ready for Joe. I've been talking. I've been
Speaker 1: talking cash, you know what. I've been making bets with
Speaker 1: Ryan Clark. I can't even eat McDonald's till January.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you know what, Yes, listen, and you can't
Speaker 6: say till January because we lost, uh you, you lost.
Speaker 3: Like five in a row.
Speaker 5: Hey, So I said, I can't play foot or ball.
Speaker 3: Because my fa foot or ball. Dope?
Speaker 2: Nope, o yo, even you, Oh Joe, you playing the game?
Speaker 2: I said, Oh Joe, how y'all gonna go out on
Speaker 2: a run When your defense is his orally bad. Your
Speaker 2: quarterback literally has to play a perfect game every time
Speaker 2: one turnover, because first of all, your defense is not
Speaker 2: really gonna be able to stop anybody. Now you turn
Speaker 2: the ball over, you give them and if you give
Speaker 2: them points on your possession. Oh don't cry, No, no,
Speaker 2: don't cry. Oh no, don't cry. You ain't crying yet, Chad.
Speaker 2: Don't let it fool you. You should be crying.
Speaker 5: We go Sorry, we're gonna We're gonna be alright, We're
Speaker 5: gonna be all right.
Speaker 3: You know, y'all ain't next year, y'all are gonna be
Speaker 3: all right this year?
Speaker 5: Hey bad?
Speaker 2: You know, gott the people you have, people in Cincinata
Speaker 2: believe in you man, Oh Joe saying we're gonna be
Speaker 2: all right. Not everybody, not everybody ain't doing nothing but
Speaker 2: eating chilling hot dogs. M hmm, stand up, sit up
Speaker 2: in your chair. God, coach, you blurred. Don't now you
Speaker 2: get you break your hands back into focus. Y'all got
Speaker 2: oh your crime? Bingal bingle? What's y'all?
Speaker 3: Bingo nation, bingle country? What y'all? We'll be back.
Speaker 5: We'll go be back next year.
Speaker 2: That's what Custard said when they send his ass out there.
Speaker 2: He said I'll be back. And they ain't seen it
Speaker 2: there he litle big horning. They ain't seen his ass.
Speaker 3: Sense.
Speaker 2: That was an eighteen seventy five, seventy eight what was that?
Speaker 2: Winning the Little Winter the uh spinning will get on?
Speaker 2: I think that was somewhere between seventy five and seven.
Speaker 3: Eight year.
Speaker 5: I don't care, I don't care what nobody's saying that.
Speaker 5: That's okay. We we had a bad season. Sometimes people
Speaker 5: have bad seanings.
Speaker 1: Sometimes people have some of the greatest players on offense,
Speaker 1: you know, and and sometimes things don't go the way
Speaker 1: you wanted to go.
Speaker 5: Sometimes they're like, hold on, you could talk your ass.
Speaker 3: Are I ain't we finish? We didn't come in for that.
Speaker 5: Yo, I'm trying. I'm trying to laugh and keep from crying.
Speaker 5: Let's change. Let's change the topic, man, shoot man.
Speaker 2: No, we ain't fitna changed no topic now is what
Speaker 2: we do. We don't dunk, no chat. Do y'all expect
Speaker 2: not captain dunck or top it? Do y'all expect them
Speaker 2: to move on so quickly? No, lessa, we gotta address it.
Speaker 2: Your defense is historically bad. They've been bad. But if
Speaker 2: you go back and look at it, the Bengals had
Speaker 2: Kansas City dead the right what happened?
Speaker 3: Gripsack scoop and score touchdown?
Speaker 2: They had the Ravens again dead the right at home?
Speaker 2: What happened on Joe Joey b picked Marlon Humphrey. At
Speaker 2: some point in time, even your great numbers can be
Speaker 2: overshadowed if you are the one that puts the ball
Speaker 2: in hard way.
Speaker 3: He's done it. We've seen it. But everybody just wants
Speaker 3: to look at the stats. Oh, he played great.
Speaker 2: What about those three turnovers that gave the other team
Speaker 2: to football or gave the other team points? Do we
Speaker 2: not chount that we counted for everybody else We rip
Speaker 2: quarterbacks that turned the ball over at the end of
Speaker 2: the day. Is his responsibility to take of the football?
Speaker 3: It's greater.
Speaker 1: All this is saying to me is is Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: is going to basically have to do He has to.
Speaker 1: He has to put on the Superman cake because our
Speaker 1: defense is playing so bad.
Speaker 5: Right, he has to do it.
Speaker 1: Shodon is doing if Josh has to do it, and
Speaker 1: he can overcome himself and not make the mistakes he
Speaker 1: made in the past and has his team playing the
Speaker 1: way he has him playing, Joe Burrow has to do
Speaker 1: the same thing, and he has to do with a
Speaker 1: much better supporting cast offensively.
Speaker 5: That's it sounds easy, but it's not easy to do.
Speaker 1: Josh Allen makes it look easy, but it's not easy
Speaker 1: to do. But I understand, honest where you're coming from.
Speaker 2: I I remember when Peyton Manning had defensive and even
Speaker 2: and even he was putting up those numbers. Oh hey man,
Speaker 2: it can't get the done in the big game. Hey, many,
Speaker 2: y'all and y'alla y'alla. Even though his defense was historically bad,
Speaker 2: y'all didn't make the excuse me for Peyton that you
Speaker 2: make for Joe Brown.
Speaker 3: And I just need to know why I got time.
Speaker 5: I took it out to day too. I took it
Speaker 5: after day after we thought you were good.
Speaker 2: Well, I need to tell you. I need you to
Speaker 2: tell me why Why did Joe Burrow getting a pack?
Speaker 5: I said it didn't play well. I said didn't play well.
Speaker 1: Now, when you said about the three turnovers, I just
Speaker 1: wanted to add a little context.
Speaker 5: On the turnover and just say they weren't all his fault.
Speaker 5: But on the stash sheet, guess who? Guess whose name
Speaker 5: is by them turnovers?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yoe? When is the strip?
Speaker 5: Hold on?
Speaker 3: When have we not given a script sack to the.
Speaker 5: Corner making the stash sheet? Who are the turnovers on?
Speaker 5: Whose name is there? The quarterback? I know, I'm just saying,
Speaker 5: I'm just I was just trying to give a little
Speaker 5: context on what happened or whatnot. But he didn't play.
Speaker 5: He didn't play as well as he needs to play.
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow needs to understand, and I'm sure he understands,
Speaker 1: and he would have this conversation with his head coach,
Speaker 1: with his officer coordinated.
Speaker 5: And with his quarterback coach. You have to protect the ball.
Speaker 5: You have to in order for us to even have
Speaker 5: a chance to win going on from this season and.
Speaker 1: Later on in the future, you have to be the
Speaker 1: best at protecting the ball and not turning it over
Speaker 1: because if our defense is not playing as well or
Speaker 1: playing the way they played this year at any point,
Speaker 1: there is no way for us to overcome though, no
Speaker 1: zero mistakes, all up.
Speaker 2: And We're not finna move on because I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: let you do this to russ In Russ. You trust
Speaker 2: you say you love Russ. Well, let's give Russ some flowers.
Speaker 5: Box for rush too. Now, don't do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you work the Russ twenty nine and thirty eight
Speaker 2: four fourteen, which is a career high three touchdowns, one pick.
Speaker 3: He was sent saytion no today his career high.
Speaker 2: He knew, like, look, as good as our defense is,
Speaker 2: our their offense is going to score. It is incumbent
Speaker 2: upon me as the quarterback and one of the leaders
Speaker 2: of this where he is the de facto leader on offense. Oh,
Speaker 2: we can have our way with these guys boys, and
Speaker 2: think about it. Oh, Joe, you did get some.
Speaker 5: Nice, very nice. That was good.
Speaker 1: Listen, Boom pointed attack nice little jam boom, eyes on,
Speaker 1: eyes on the ball.
Speaker 5: Oh we going another way? I ski, I ski, let's go. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that that was right. I thought listening after that, Jam,
Speaker 5: I thought we was going to run away with the game.
Speaker 3: That was a yeah.
Speaker 2: And I remember, do y'all remember when Peyton was losing
Speaker 2: to Tom Brady, Oh he'll never beat talk and Peyton
Speaker 2: was winning MVP, but Tom was winning Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Wasn't putting nothing numbers like Peyton, but he was winning.
Speaker 2: Oh, Tom, Peyton never went I remember when he got
Speaker 2: beat forty wasen't nothing by Chad Pennington. He got beat
Speaker 2: by Billy Bowley. Oh, they were just ripping Pate, ripping him.
Speaker 2: His defense weren't very good. He's putting up even in
Speaker 2: Owner when Peyton talking about I don't I won't, I
Speaker 2: don't want I want championships, I don't want no star
Speaker 2: wards numbers because he feels that Peyton underperformed. And now
Speaker 2: and Peyton go back and look at peyton numbers that
Speaker 2: man won for MVPs and all of them wasn't in
Speaker 2: no Super Bowl seasons. Fans, media light killed him.
Speaker 3: Me too. I was one of them.
Speaker 2: Yep, me too, yep, like you look at what I
Speaker 2: was on CBS. Beat him up. Everybody did. But now, well, Shannon,
Speaker 2: uh his defense, y'all didn't say that. When Peyton had
Speaker 2: a bad defense, y'all just said he couldn't stand up
Speaker 2: to Tom Brady.
Speaker 3: He lost the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Gona look at peyton numbers in the Super Bowl, but
Speaker 2: he had that one big six Tracy Porter read it right.
Speaker 2: They came with a zero blintz. He undercut the under
Speaker 2: route and he pached him out. Y'all gotta stop this, y'all.
Speaker 2: Y'all got very very short memory. But what I'm seeing
Speaker 2: over ya, what I'm seeing. If we like somebody, we'll
Speaker 2: make every excuse in the world for him. Yes, I
Speaker 2: don't give a damn what he does or what he
Speaker 2: or she done if we like you, But I'm gonna
Speaker 2: call it straight down the middle. Y'all know how I am. Now,
Speaker 2: y'all get on me and say Chatton, Yes I do,
Speaker 2: y'all know I do. Go back and check my track
Speaker 2: record to see menz If y'all don't think I call
Speaker 2: it down.
Speaker 5: Me too, me too, Yeah, check my track record.
Speaker 3: Us put thus him.
Speaker 2: Russ said, Hey see, but here's the thing, hey, guys
Speaker 2: with people, y'all keep saying, get that man, it's flowers.
Speaker 2: Don't give me my flowers. I'm planting my own damn garden,
Speaker 2: my own damn hold on, and I picked my own.
Speaker 2: I'm tired of y'all.
Speaker 3: I don't want to get people, Russ.
Speaker 2: Plant your own damn flowers, throw your own guarden, hold
Speaker 2: on and pluck your own flowers and put them on display.
Speaker 2: I don't need nobody. Don't give me no more flowers.
Speaker 5: I don't want them.
Speaker 1: I row on guard in the road, but I got
Speaker 1: no paday. I don't need y'all to give my flowers
Speaker 1: because I'm what you say, plant plant my own.
Speaker 4: Guard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, whatever, whatever, whatever you want, what you want?
Speaker 2: You want roses, you want daisies, opportunia.
Speaker 5: You know what I want?
Speaker 1: I want tulips because hey, yeah, I saw the movie
Speaker 1: and Lena Horn she liked tulips, So I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: me some mother tulips.
Speaker 5: Russ.
Speaker 2: Listen. Russ is in the ideal situation. He's with a
Speaker 2: coach that understands quarterbacks, not that he can coach them,
Speaker 2: but he understands the psyche of a quarterback. And the
Speaker 2: one thing you can't do with a quarterback is beat
Speaker 2: him up mentally. And I think Sean Payton beat him
Speaker 2: up mentally. For whatever reason, Sean never embraced Russ. He
Speaker 2: never gave it, He never gave he tolerated it. He's like,
Speaker 2: I got a year with him, and I'm not so
Speaker 2: sure that Russ could have done anything other than going
Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl that would have ingratiated himself with
Speaker 2: Sean Payton. Sean Payton has a guy now and he
Speaker 2: you know, hey, he has a young guy and young
Speaker 2: guys for the most part, Oh show, they're happy to
Speaker 2: be there even though their first round pick, and they
Speaker 2: can stomach a little more Russell's event. Russ has been
Speaker 2: the Super bowls. Russ is a multiple time Pro Bowl player.
Speaker 2: He's like, why are you talking to me like that?
Speaker 1: Hey, okay, watching obviously you know because you got on
Speaker 1: me about it is. I've been giving Russes flowers for
Speaker 1: a very long time, even when he was in Denver.
Speaker 5: You know, you you you was getting into him because
Speaker 5: the one the way they should be going.
Speaker 1: I always stood on that soul box for Russell Willison
Speaker 1: because I understood there's no way, there's no way that
Speaker 1: a player like Russ that was with the Seattle Seahawks,
Speaker 1: that has played well at a high level for so
Speaker 1: many years and all of a sudden could go to
Speaker 1: Denver and things just weren't right. I think the situation
Speaker 1: and the scenario that he was in, and the pressure
Speaker 1: that Sean Payton, who kept challenging him but rating him
Speaker 1: as a head coach, I didn't. I just knew that
Speaker 1: wasn't the right fit. And I understood once he got
Speaker 1: over there with the Steelers, I said it. As soon
Speaker 1: as he got there, I say, man, this is perfect.
Speaker 1: He's going with the right coach, the right type of coach,
Speaker 1: winning coach with the right mentality that knows how to
Speaker 1: deal with him. And Arthur Smith has put Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: in some great positions and understanding his strengths is in
Speaker 1: his strengths, needed weaknesses, knowing what he can do and
Speaker 1: what he can't do anymore that they used to do
Speaker 1: in Seattle, and it has been paying dividends off of him, man,
Speaker 1: and it's been perfect.
Speaker 5: It's been perfect.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been he Look he's been, he's been good.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he would have ever been what
Speaker 2: he is right now in Denver with Sean Payton. Look
Speaker 2: that first year, we got to talk that up because
Speaker 2: ain't nobody being good of Nathaniel Hackett. Ain't nobody he
Speaker 2: got fired in Denver and he lost his play calling
Speaker 2: duty in Green Bay. I mean, excuse me and the
Speaker 2: Jets so nobody so we can we can't say say,
Speaker 2: you know what, Russ, we're gonna just that first year.
Speaker 5: Now, whatever happened with you? Like I said, I don't know,
Speaker 5: but it just seems like he was never ingratiated.
Speaker 2: Uh, Sean didn't put his arms around him and like,
Speaker 2: I'm happy to have you as my quarterback for whatever reasons,
Speaker 2: and it was best that they go accept you know,
Speaker 2: you go your way, I go mine, and we're both
Speaker 2: better for it. The Broncos are doing quite well. The
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers are leading their division. They're doing extremely well.
Speaker 2: And I'm happy for both because this this match wasn't
Speaker 2: gonna work in Denver, not not Russ and Sean Payton.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's with somebody else, but not that, but Rus
Speaker 2: Russe needed to go and get Bill. He had to start.
Speaker 2: He had to start. He had to start from scratch.
Speaker 2: He had to start from scratch. And and and what
Speaker 2: better place to go than with Mike Tomlin, who's on
Speaker 2: who's on burn. He has a firm foundation. He ain't
Speaker 2: going nowhere. He ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 3: And so.
Speaker 2: Rogers a long shot. They're talking about potentially uh h,
Speaker 2: I said, so what what?
Speaker 3: What did that article?
Speaker 2: But potentially, like they don't know if he's gonna start
Speaker 2: storry moving forward.
Speaker 5: In favor of who Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3: It don't matter because I'm getting the same results.
Speaker 1: Listen, you think about mentioning Aaron Rodgers over there in
Speaker 1: New York right now. He will flip every table. He
Speaker 1: gonna take a bout. That's okay, he gonna be gone
Speaker 1: next year. We'll straight the back up. He gonna be gone.
Speaker 5: They wouldn't, they wouldn't do that. And he's not gonna
Speaker 5: go out quietly.
Speaker 1: I don't see Aaron Rodgers as the type of quarterback
Speaker 1: that's gonna take benching him.
Speaker 5: Well, I don't. I don't see him taking a well, what.
Speaker 3: Are you gonna do?
Speaker 2: Gonna be Matt showing and havered some conspiracial theories.
Speaker 1: That's liberals, ackle fool and making hell while he's there,
Speaker 1: ackle fool and making hell while he's there.
Speaker 5: He just seemed like the type that would do that.
Speaker 3: That's okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't play well, but I'm sure you know,
Speaker 2: I'm sure they'll say he played well. He was twenty
Speaker 2: one of thirty nine one eight five tw This down
Speaker 2: is one of the eceptions. Oh Joe and Seattle try
Speaker 2: to get a game away in the first quarter. I've
Speaker 2: never seen return return and fumbled that many times, and
Speaker 2: I've never seen anything like that.
Speaker 3: O yoe.
Speaker 2: So the very next play began nineteen So from that
Speaker 2: point on, Seattle outscored him nineteen to nothing.
Speaker 3: Rogers had the long shot of return.
Speaker 2: They asked ubric after the game about what's he contemplating
Speaker 2: a quarterback change. Instead of shutting down speculation with a
Speaker 2: direct note, he replied, not know ask of today.
Speaker 1: I don't like answers like that. I don't like what
Speaker 1: Harbor said when they talked about and asked him and
Speaker 1: justin Tucker returning. We want to address that right now.
Speaker 5: Give me right now.
Speaker 1: We talk about the greatest kick of all time. But anyway,
Speaker 1: now back to this topic at hand. Listen, Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: I mean man's man, I mean it's.
Speaker 5: It was bad?
Speaker 3: What did o Joe?
Speaker 2: The man was about to be forty one coming He's
Speaker 2: coming off of an achilles injury with one of the
Speaker 2: toughest injuries for an athlete to overcome. A young athlete,
Speaker 2: imagine one that's forty What did you expect him to
Speaker 2: look like?
Speaker 5: Night?
Speaker 2: But see if you're honest, Oho, anybody that's honest about
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, you labeled a hater and they try to
Speaker 2: make it about all the other things. Go back, and
Speaker 2: I don't need y'all do me in favor. Go back
Speaker 2: and check my track record about Aaron about when I
Speaker 2: was on CBS. I've never denied his ability to throw
Speaker 2: the football. I always catched question. I saw some character
Speaker 2: issues that concerned me, and I'm lieve it at that.
Speaker 2: Now with that being said, he didn't play well. Aaron
Speaker 2: Rodgers has not played well this year, and it's okay
Speaker 2: to say that, o Jo. He's still a four time
Speaker 2: League MVP. He's still a three time first of four
Speaker 2: time first team All Pro. He's still a Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 2: He's still a transcended historically great quarterback, one of the
Speaker 2: ever greatest quarters. But this year he hasn't played well.
Speaker 2: And all of those accolades that we've done still be
Speaker 2: plenty of you, I mean, and rightfully, so yeah, ain't
Speaker 2: got nothing to do it right.
Speaker 5: Now, you're right by that. You know, it's unfortunate, it's unfortunate.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: I'm sure we've seen quarterback decline. I don't think we've
Speaker 1: seen quarterback decline in such a manner at you know,
Speaker 1: this fast. I think maybe because of the injury. Due
Speaker 1: to the injury, I think it kind of sped up
Speaker 1: and expedited the process. I was hoping things will work out.
Speaker 1: I was hoping things will work out because I was
Speaker 1: one of the few that said, oh, shoot, Devonte Andrews
Speaker 1: coming to the Jets, Oh they finna be?
Speaker 5: Are they finna be?
Speaker 1: Hell?
Speaker 5: Now, you know, Allan Lazard and him.
Speaker 1: Having the pieces and having Brest Hall, I thought they
Speaker 1: were gonna be all world and having the defense that
Speaker 1: they did have.
Speaker 5: Ah, things aren't. Things aren't the same as hell and
Speaker 5: Rogers playing bad. The goddamn defense ain't too much to
Speaker 5: talk about either.
Speaker 2: But they were hoping that Aaron Rodgers could all because, yes,
Speaker 2: what Peyton you remember? Now, hold on, people remember that
Speaker 2: before the year before Tom Brady got to the Bucks,
Speaker 2: Jamis grew for fifty two hundred yards, fifty one hundred
Speaker 2: yards and thirty touchdowns. Bruce Allen just felt that if
Speaker 2: we minimize the turnovers, we can be able to play
Speaker 2: off team. The year that Peyton got to the Broncos,
Speaker 2: they won the division, but they were eight and eight.
Speaker 2: Peyton comes in, they go thirteen and three, they get
Speaker 2: the number one seed. Now they get knocked out in
Speaker 2: the divisional round, but you see the improvement. The next year,
Speaker 2: Peyton wins MVP, he breaks all the records. They go
Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl. They get demolished, but they did go.
Speaker 2: You see Tampa, every year Brady was there, they make
Speaker 2: the playoffs. So they were expecting. They say, look that
Speaker 2: guy coming in, he should be able to elevate our offense.
Speaker 2: We got Gary Wilson, we got some players. We got
Speaker 2: nice running back with Allen and Breeze Hall. We got
Speaker 2: solid tight ends, not great, but they're good. They're adequate,
Speaker 2: and a defense. But I said one thing, and I
Speaker 2: kept reiterating, I say, you're under the you're under the
Speaker 2: notion that the defense stays exactly the same and there's
Speaker 2: no slippage, because if they're slippage, then what.
Speaker 1: Oh then you you just okay, well listen, there's been
Speaker 1: a slippage and they and then there's no flex all.
Speaker 5: There's no flex all. The Stopper League