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Speaker 1: Hey, the folks, it is Thursday, March nineteenth, the loneliest

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Speaker 1: day of the year for many women married to men

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Speaker 1: like me. Wait, we're not married yet. Welcome to this

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Speaker 1: episode of Amy and TJ folks. And just a slip

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Speaker 1: there of the wedding hasn't happened yet. We're not doing

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Speaker 1: a Tom and Zundeia thing.

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Speaker 2: No, but we spend more time together. This is an

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Speaker 2: absolute fact than ninety nine point nine percent of married folks.

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Speaker 2: You might as well be Oh, yeah, we choose it.

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Speaker 2: We choose.

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Speaker 3: We're not forced to stay together. You can walk anytime,

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 2: I do, and that's it's not the beauty of it.

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Speaker 2: But no, I have spent more time with you in

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Speaker 2: the last three years than I have with any other

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Speaker 2: living human being.

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Speaker 1: Hey, if there was ever a time for you to

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Speaker 1: choose to walk, I would be okay with now. Because

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Speaker 1: today is the start of March madness. I hope you

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Speaker 1: all get the sarcas and we talk to each other

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Speaker 1: like this all the time. Nobody's taking it personally, but

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Speaker 1: today is the start I mean of you have filled

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Speaker 1: out your brackets. Of course you have, because nearly a

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Speaker 1: third of the country, by some estimates actually feels out

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Speaker 1: brackets March Madden. It starts into which you say, what

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Speaker 1: rhades just the idea of it. If somebody said to

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Speaker 1: your moms, hey, oh wow, the tournament's starting today, your

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Speaker 1: response is wow, damn yeah, damn bro.

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Speaker 2: Only because I know and look, it's it's something that

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Speaker 2: you're passionate about. And so I have been the last

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Speaker 2: several years. I have watched more matchups, more games and

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Speaker 2: gotten into them, like genuinely speaking, when there is a

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Speaker 2: game that has some sort of storyline, and so many

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Speaker 2: of them do and you and you are actually a

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Speaker 2: really good partner to watch a game with because you

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Speaker 2: tolerate my just lack of knowledge about either the players

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Speaker 2: or even some high rules of the game. I asked

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Speaker 2: a lot of questions, I guess, is my point.

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Speaker 1: Just like when I'm watching Bridgerton, I go, am I

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Speaker 1: not annoying as hell? When you're trying to watch one

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Speaker 1: of your shows, Gilded Age, and I have to ask

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Speaker 1: everything about everybody correct.

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Speaker 2: So yes, it's in reverse, and you are very patient

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Speaker 2: because it's a fast paced game where if you turn

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Speaker 2: your head away or you start answering my question, you

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Speaker 2: might miss some amazing play, so I get that. So, yes,

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Speaker 2: you have been good and I have watched a lot. However,

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Speaker 2: I just know the next couple of weeks it is

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Speaker 2: just like we can't go to the movies, going out

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Speaker 2: to dinner with friends, like I know that all of

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Speaker 2: that is completely non negotiable. So that's why I just

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Speaker 2: go Okay. I mean, I've gotten to a place of acceptance,

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Speaker 2: but there was a little bit of a learning curve.

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Speaker 1: It's just two weeks Thursday through Sunday. What's the big deal?

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Speaker 1: You said? But to your don't you feel though you

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Speaker 1: will relate to this? A lot of couples and relationships.

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Speaker 1: Do you think you're having to tolerate me? Or I

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Speaker 1: think I'm annoying you because I'm asking questions? But doesn't

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Speaker 1: it feel good to know that your partner, even though

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Speaker 1: they might not be into that show or that game,

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Speaker 1: asking the questions. Means they're actually giving enough of a

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Speaker 1: damn and engaged in it. That's certainly how I feel

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Speaker 1: when I'm watching a game with you, and I would hope,

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Speaker 1: and I think a lot of you might feel that.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't it feel good to know? Oh, he's actually asking questions.

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Speaker 2: Yes, because I know how important it is to you

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Speaker 2: this particular game and then this particular time of year

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Speaker 2: where it's basically the Oscars for basketball fans, so to speak. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I take an interest in it. I take an interest

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Speaker 1: But you also take an interest, and it's fun every

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Speaker 1: single time. It never ever fails. I just give you

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Speaker 1: a storyline and you're completely into the game. Now you're

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Speaker 1: rooting for that kid on the bench. Now you're rooting

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Speaker 1: for that coach. Now you're rooting for somebody in the

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Speaker 1: You always get into it, and then you end up

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Speaker 1: and it's comical to me. Usually we were at the

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Speaker 1: next game the other night. You're pointing out everybody's shoes. Shit,

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Speaker 2: Yes, pro tip here, And I'm not trying to generalize

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Speaker 2: stereotypical here. But for those women who are like me,

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Speaker 2: who I guess need to find other things that make

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Speaker 2: like talking about people's last names or what would be

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Speaker 2: fun with that. We have fun with. Yes, shoes, hairstyles,

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Speaker 2: and the coaches, all of that. I have fun looking

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Speaker 1: You turn, we play games within the game. I'm actually

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Speaker 1: trying to watch. But it's fine if it means that

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Speaker 1: is an easy sacrifice. Can I either be with you

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Speaker 1: the next three weekends. I'll take your company now. A

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Speaker 1: lot of what you said women and you didn't want

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Speaker 1: to generalize there, but a lot of ways that some

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Speaker 1: people aren't in the basketball get into this event. At

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Speaker 1: least brackets haven't you every year filled out a bracket.

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Speaker 2: I haven't filled out a bracket in a very very

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Speaker 2: long time, and I think the reason is you don't

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Speaker 2: fill out brackets. Now, this is interesting because, look, that

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Speaker 2: has been a way to be invested, because now you've

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Speaker 2: got your rooting for your bracket to go as far

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Speaker 2: as it can, whether money's on the line or just pride.

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Speaker 2: It's something that you feel like your gut skin in

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: But I actually appreciate that you don't fill out a

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Speaker 2: bracket because you get less stressed. I know when you

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Speaker 2: were watching the razorbacks. Sometimes I'm amazed you. Actually, I

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Speaker 2: think we figured out you're a highly sensitive person. You

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Speaker 2: you won't even be able to watch the last few

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Speaker 2: when you aren't filling up brackets, you aren't as invested.

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Speaker 2: That way, you enjoy the game more, which means I

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Speaker 2: enjoy the game one.

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Speaker 1: But I hate the idea of rooting for a bracket, right,

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Speaker 1: if I filled out a bracket, obviously I would pick

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Speaker 1: every number one seed over a sixteen seed, obviously, because

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Speaker 1: that's gonna help. That's obviously, that's just a no brainer.

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Speaker 1: But if I'm watching that game and I filled out

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Speaker 1: a bracket and the sixteen seed is close to beating

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Speaker 1: the one seed, I would still be stressed rooting for

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Speaker 1: the one. If I didn't have a bracket, I would say,

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Speaker 1: go you number sixteen seed, and you would be rooting

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Speaker 1: for history or the little guy. Differently, I hate it.

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Speaker 1: I've done it one year in my life and submit

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Speaker 1: it to some whatever office I was working in. I

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Speaker 1: and rooting for a good story or Cinderella, and all

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Speaker 1: I was doing was rooting for my bracket so I

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Speaker 1: can possibly make some money. Hated it, so I don't

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Speaker 2: That's really why. And I think that's so interesting and

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Speaker 2: to your point, when you fill it out, people try

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Speaker 2: to do the strategy. They look at all of the stats,

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Speaker 2: they see what that's fun. Sports insiders are saying. But

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Speaker 2: I will tell you the only time I actually remember

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Speaker 2: filling out a bracket, I was working for the Today show.

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Speaker 2: We had a fun little behind the scenes thing. I

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Speaker 2: won the pot, I got the highest points. Guess what

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Speaker 2: I did, completely random, just pick teams. I liked the college,

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Speaker 2: or I like the town, or I like the university,

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Speaker 2: or I knew something about. There was zero sports analysis

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Speaker 2: that went into any of my picks, and I came

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Speaker 2: out on this.

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Speaker 1: It's usually a safe bet because it made me laugh.

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Speaker 1: It's what this tournament is. It just is You're not

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Speaker 1: going to predict some of these upsets. So sixty to

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Speaker 1: one hundred million, that's what the NCAA estimates how many

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Speaker 1: folks in this country fill out brackets every year. Sixty

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Speaker 1: to one hundred million. Now the sixty four team, This

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Speaker 1: format we've had been around since nineteen eighty five. Question

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Speaker 1: to be asked, has there ever been a perfect bracket

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Speaker 3: Do those numbers for me? How far are we from

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Speaker 3: eight to forty years?

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Speaker 2: Forty one years?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, forty one years, So in forty one years and

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Speaker 1: that many millions of brackets filled out every year? Would

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Speaker 1: your guest I think you know the answer now, But

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Speaker 1: do you think your guest would have been what would

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Speaker 1: you have said? That?

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Speaker 3: Of course, one has been or help.

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Speaker 2: You know, before I knew the answer, which I was

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Speaker 2: shocked by, I would have guessed maybe a handful less

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Speaker 3: That's fair.

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Speaker 1: And again, given the numbers, it seems like maybe some

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Speaker 1: year somebody would have gotten.

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Speaker 2: People win the lottery. So you know, that's what I'm thinking.

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Speaker 2: Those are astronomical odds. So if people can win the lottery,

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Speaker 2: why couldn't someone have a perfect bracket.

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Speaker 1: It's weird to think how much better your odds are

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Speaker 1: of winning the lottery than they are of getting a

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Speaker 1: perfect bracket in the NC Double A.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 1: No one has ever in the history of this tournament

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Speaker 1: filled out a perfect bracket, verifiable. I'm sure somebody in

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Speaker 1: some office somewhere you're talking to your boys and they yeah.

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Speaker 2: I didn't submit it. I promise I didn't fill it

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Speaker 2: out afterwards.

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Speaker 3: Whatever bruh never been proven. Has ever ever.

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Speaker 1: In the history of this tournament done a verifiable perfect bracket.

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Speaker 1: In fact, the best anyone has ever done wasn't that great?

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Speaker 1: It's pretty impressive. Forty nine games. That was a guy

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Speaker 1: in Ohio back in twenty nineteen. Normally robes most years,

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Speaker 1: folks get up to the perfect bracket'll be somewhere thirty.

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Speaker 1: They get to mid thirties. If it's a really good year,

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Speaker 1: somebody might get to forty perfect games. But what we're

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Speaker 1: talking about is most brackets are shot after the first weekend.

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Speaker 2: That's hilarious. Shit. I mean I knew that, I guess,

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Speaker 2: I just didn't realize that. No one, and this is

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Speaker 2: even with a billion dollars dangling in front of you.

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Speaker 2: Didn't Warren Buffett begin that in twenty fifteen. Yeah, he

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Speaker 2: offered a billion. That's how sure he was. I will

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Speaker 2: give something hot one billion dollars if they get a

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Speaker 2: perfect bracket.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know a lot about him, but I

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Speaker 3: hear he's good with numbers.

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Speaker 2: I hear he knows a little bit about making a

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Speaker 1: There's no way in hell anybody is going to ever

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Speaker 3: Quintillion? You know what that is?

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Speaker 1: One in nine quintillion, So I need to add up

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Speaker 1: There's only seven point five quintillion grains of sand. So

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Speaker 2: A grain of sand that could exist on one of

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Speaker 1: So they tried to give context to where this is

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Speaker 3: Would you say.

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Speaker 2: Yes for sure? Now I would say among And again

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Speaker 3: You're doing today while the tournament started.

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Speaker 2: Going to my aesthetition to get just some refreshers.

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Speaker 3: This is real.

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Speaker 1: She's seen this every year. I have had people do

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Speaker 2: You had a lot of for somebody who doesn't have it. Well,

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Speaker 2: you obviously are rooting for your Arkansas Razorbacks. They play when.

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Speaker 3: Today for forty five.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I will be back for that. I will be

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Speaker 2: here for that game, start to.

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Speaker 3: Finish the game.

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Speaker 2: See, I don't know if I'm gonna make it. I

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Speaker 2: love you Georgia Bulldogs, but I don't know my sleep.

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Speaker 2: I have prioritized that tool. It depends on when they

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Speaker 3: So if oh it's nine, it's after nine o'clock.

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Speaker 2: That's my bedtime.

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Speaker 1: So so so you're telling me if Kirby's smart had

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Speaker 1: Oh, Bulldogs disown her. That is ridiculous. They're in the

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Speaker 2: You know what, but my sleep. Look, I have to

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Speaker 2: takes a lot. Like Ava has a show, She's got

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Speaker 2: It's nine pm that's my cutoff.

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Speaker 1: You should stay out anyway. But yes, how much, just

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Speaker 1: how much productivity is lost? They say, ropes. It is

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Speaker 2: Really, twelve billion dollars.

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Speaker 1: Really, yeah, this company out of the Challenger Gray and

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Speaker 2: Wait, are they averaging six and a half hours basically

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Speaker 3: Couple of weeks, Well, twelve today.

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Speaker 2: Right, So the six point four hours seems excessively low.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what those really low.

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Speaker 2: People like me who like might watch thirty minutes a day, Well, yeah, you.

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Speaker 1: Check in your any moment you spend filling out a

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Speaker 2: Six and a half hours is low? Really, I think

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Speaker 2: it's more than that for you. No, well not for me,

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Speaker 2: but for you like you are offsetting me in a

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Speaker 2: significant way. I'm just saying I know what I've seen

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, if it was one day, six and a

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Speaker 2: half hours today, I believe for the next couple of weeks,

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Speaker 2: you're saying you're only distracted on average six and a

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Speaker 3: When you added up.

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Speaker 1: But most people all going to spend six hours or

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Speaker 2: But can you give me a number of how many

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Speaker 3: Twelve today, twelve tomorrow, six on Saturday, six on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: So what does that right now?

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Speaker 2: At thirty six, right now, there will.

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Speaker 1: Be no doubt thirty six hours of me staring at

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Speaker 2: In just the next four days through.

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Speaker 3: Sunday, one hundred and fifty.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, if anyone is lonely wants to go

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Speaker 1: You are also free to grab a seat right next

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Speaker 2: I will in the good games, and definitely the last

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Speaker 1: If they're all good games. Maybe they're all good games.

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Speaker 1: Folks enjoy the tournament. We certainly are going to enjoy it. Here,

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Speaker 1: we'll make that marriage counseling. Why don't keep saying marriage?

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Speaker 1: Did we get married and I didn't realize.

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Speaker 3: Why don't keep saying no?

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Speaker 2: But you did say yesterday that we should go ahead,

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Speaker 2: and I didn't get that done.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, we're just adding this so we can put

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Speaker 1: this in our relationship feed.

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Speaker 3: Folks.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy your.

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Speaker 3: Actually, that was funny, made you laugh. All right, folks,

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Speaker 3: appreciate you listening as always. Enjoy your basketball watching. Go Hogs,

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Speaker 3: go bull Dogs. Today we'll talk to y'allson.

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Speaker 2: Thank