1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to brain Stuff production of I Heart Radio. Hi 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: brain Stuff Lauren Vogel bomb here with a classic episode 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: for you today. Lots of mental health issues can be 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 1: treated by pretty conventional therapies or combinations of therapies, but 5 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: some patients experience more severe cases of things like depression, 6 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: and in those cases, experimental therapies like psychedelic drugs are 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: being researched. Hey there, brain Stuff, Lauren Vogel bam here. 8 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: Depression treatment is better now than ever before thanks to 9 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: a variety of prescription drug options and improved therapy techniques, 10 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: but in some cases these proven therapies fall short. However, 11 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: magic mushrooms just might be the key to giving those 12 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: with depressions some much needed relief, according to a recent 13 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: study by researchers at Imperial College London published in the 14 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: journal Scientific Reports. The albeit small study looked at the 15 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: effects of psilocybin on nineteen patients for whom conventional depression 16 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: therapies ailed. Psilocybin is the psychoactive compound that is naturally 17 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: present in two hundred types of magic mushrooms. The researchers 18 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 1: described the results as rapid and sustained. In fact, within weeks, 19 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: the patients reported fewer depression symptoms, with several of them 20 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: describing a brain reset. This reportedly lasts for up to 21 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: five weeks post treatment. Other studies have shown positive effects 22 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: from using LSD and m d M, a the active 23 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: ingredient in ecstasy, to treat some mental illnesses, but this 24 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: is the first study to look at the effect of 25 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: psilocybin on depression. Dr Robin Carhart Harris, head of psychedelic 26 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: research at Imperial and leader of the study, said in 27 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: a press release, we have shown for the first time 28 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: clear changes in brain activity in depressed people treated the 29 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: psilocybin after failing to respond to conventional treatments. Several of 30 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: our patients described feeling reset after the treatment and often 31 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: used computer analogies. For example, one set he felt like 32 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: his brain had been defragged like a computer hard drive, 33 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: and another said he felt rebooted. Psilocybin maybe giving these 34 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: individuals the temporary kickstart they need to break out of 35 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: their depressive states, and these imaging results do tentatively support 36 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: a reset analogy. Similar brain effects to these have been 37 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: seen with electro convulsive therapy, which by the way, is 38 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: not as scary as it looks in movies and can 39 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: be a real help to those for whom other therapies 40 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: don't work. In the study, participants were given two doses 41 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: of psilocybin a week apart. Functional MRI is done after 42 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: each dose. Showed reduced blood flow in certain areas of 43 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: the brain, particularly the amygdala, which is credited with processing fear, stress, 44 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: and emotional responses. Greater stability in a different brain network 45 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: was also revealed. The tests appear to show that people 46 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: undergo a temporary disintegration of brain networks during a trip, 47 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: but reintegration follows soon after. Psilocybin has been used for 48 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: medicinal purposes for centuries and became a popular recreational drug 49 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: beginning in the nineteen sixties. Researchers warned that people should 50 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: not attempt to self medicate, as the experimental treatment was 51 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: conducted in tandem with other therapy. They also note these 52 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: small size of the study grew and the absence of 53 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: a control group as cautions before making applications to the 54 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: general population. However, the study author's right accumulating evidence suggests 55 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: that psilocybin with accompanying psychological support can be used safely 56 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: to treat a range of psychiatric conditions including end of 57 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: life anxiety and depression, alcohol and tobacco addiction, obsessive compulsive disorder, and, 58 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: most recently from our group, treatment resistant major depression. They 59 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: planned test psilocybin against a major antidepressant in another trial. 60 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: Despite these positive results, psilocybin can also cause some pretty 61 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: crazy side effects like panic attacks, paranoia, strange reactions, and outbursts. Also, 62 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: eating the wrong mushroom to get high may result in poisoning, 63 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: so seriously, don't undertake this treatment on your own. Today's 64 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: episode was written by A. Leah Hoyt and produced by 65 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: Tristan McNeil and Tyler Clang. For more on this lots 66 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: of other topics about brain stuff, visit how staffords dot com. 67 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: Brain Stuff is production of I Heart Radio or more podcasts. 68 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: My heart Radio visit the I heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, 69 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. H