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Speaker 1: We'll talk to McK cronin. That's Mick cronin. I like

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Speaker 1: UCLA head coach will join us coming up, and he's

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Speaker 1: one of the stars of the Falcon and the Winter Soldier.

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Speaker 1: At Russell will join us coming up in the final

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Speaker 1: hour of the program. I think we have a pull question,

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Speaker 1: right McLevin. We actually have not pulled one up yet

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Speaker 1: because I wanted to pitch you a really mean Patriots ball. Okay,

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Speaker 1: is it fair to ask ask who has a brighter future,

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Speaker 1: the New York Jets or the New England Patriots. I

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Speaker 1: always going to put the bills in, but I think

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Speaker 1: the Bills would win that, yes they would. The fact

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Speaker 1: an interesting starting point. But you're looking at the Jets.

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Speaker 1: They have cap space draft picks and they didn't have

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Speaker 1: to trade up to get the quarterback they truly won

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Speaker 1: in Zach Wilson. They'll get something for Sam Darnold. It's

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Speaker 1: a fresh start, their new coach, maybe a new outcome.

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Speaker 1: You still have Belichick and Kraft there now. I don't

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Speaker 1: like some of the personnel decisions that they've made. They

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Speaker 1: in the draft, and in fact, Robert Kraft, the Patriots owner,

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Speaker 1: had this to say about Cam Newton's performance, because you know,

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Speaker 1: Robert Kraft was talking about this team. It was sort

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Speaker 1: of a State of the Union addressed by Robert Kraft,

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Speaker 1: I guess, and he talked about the weapons are lack thereof?

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Speaker 1: In fairness to Kim, I'm not sure he had the

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Speaker 1: what happens all right, Jared Jared Stidham. Robert Kraft also

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Speaker 1: had this to say about Tom Brady leaving New England

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Speaker 1: after twenty years. He was entitled to make a decision

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Speaker 1: that was what he thought was best for him and

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Speaker 1: ability to do that. And you know, it's like marriages

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Speaker 1: But they allowed him to seek employment elsewhere, and we

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Speaker 1: of course know how that ended. You know, this is

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Speaker 1: a story that just continues as long as Brady plays.

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Speaker 1: It has to do with what New England should have

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Speaker 1: done with Tom Brady. Tom didn't want to stay. He

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Speaker 1: what he wanted late in his career. Wanted that and

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Speaker 1: Robert Craft also said, really, the teams who draft well

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Speaker 1: like we've done the greatest job the last few years,

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Speaker 1: and I really hope and believe seen a different approach

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Speaker 1: this year. Okay, now, what would be different? Isn't it

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Speaker 1: the same person who's making these decisions. It's a single person.

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Speaker 1: The different approach this time is drafting better players. Yes, yes, okay, okay, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I never understood that that the Patriots don't do a

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Speaker 1: get out of Robert Kraft talking about the Patriots. The

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Speaker 1: And we toyed with the idea Yankees, Dodgers or the

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Speaker 1: rest of the field. It might just be the Dodgers

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Speaker 1: to mccronin. And as I mentioned, White Russell the falcon

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Speaker 1: the consensus is the Niners traded up to get Mac Jones.

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Speaker 1: This is what I was told by a source. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know, Kyle Shanahan loves Mac. Was told personnel department

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Speaker 1: I get that Mac fits what he does, but man,

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold. And I asked my source, okay, knowing what

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Speaker 1: hearing that Trey Lance makes more sense with Jimmy g

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Speaker 1: Isn't John Lynch the GM and in charge of all

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Speaker 1: from then I was told yesterday, was John Lynch just

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Speaker 1: Let's say it plays out like you said, and with

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Speaker 1: is it too crazy to theorize that it could go one, two, three, four,

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Speaker 1: a month to go. Let the games begin four weeks

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Speaker 1: from tonight. Yeah, Paul, it's so fascinating look at it

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Speaker 1: because the draft ward, like you said, fifth, Cincinnati would

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Speaker 1: don't eat a quarterback at all. Six is Miami, which

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Speaker 1: His confidence is probably a little fragile. Anyway, I'd be

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Speaker 1: walking through the door. Built walking through the door. So

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Speaker 1: you know it's new for UCLA to to grind their

425
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Speaker 1: way to a final four. What's it like though? When

426
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Speaker 1: you go into Pauli Pavilion, you look up and you

427
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 1: see all those banners. Man, it's awesome, Dan, it's awesome.

428
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Speaker 1: Every's not intimidating. I don't really look at it like

429
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Speaker 1: I just look. You know, maybe i'm too too. My

430
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Speaker 1: Irish toughness, UM doesn't allow me to like, I don't

431
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Speaker 1: think that way. I just think I look at opportunity.

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Speaker 1: I think you can't. I should if you're gonna look

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Speaker 1: at it in awe of oh my goodness. You know,

434
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Speaker 1: look what I have to live up to. Um, you

435
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 1: know you shouldn't take the job. But I did study

436
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Speaker 1: everything that coach Wooden said at the end. I mean,

437
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 1: when I got the job, I stayed up late and

438
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Speaker 1: he here's a quote from Coach Wooden. He said, the

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Speaker 1: only person that had had to deal with my expectations

440
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Speaker 1: should have been my the first guy that followed him, okay, um,

441
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Speaker 1: which was Murray Bartow. But you know after that, you

442
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Speaker 1: didn't follow John Wooden. And this is him talking you know,

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Speaker 1: so he said, if they're thinking that way, that that's

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Speaker 1: the wrong way to think. So but anyway, you know,

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Speaker 1: I just maybe it's my stubbornness. Man. I just look

446
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Speaker 1: at it as what an opportunity to coach where Coach

447
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Speaker 1: Wooden coaches. I've met all his family. They're texting me

448
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Speaker 1: today already. Yeah, it's just so many cool people. I mean,

449
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 1: I'm dead. I'm friends with Kareem abdul Jabar. How cool.

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Speaker 1: He's McK cronin the UCLA head coach. By the way,

451
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Speaker 1: this just in. Roy Williams has announced his retirement. Are

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Speaker 1: you being serious? Yeah, it just happened. Uh yeah, Carolina

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Speaker 1: just released this. After thirty three years as a Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame head coach or beloved tar heels, Roy Williams

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Speaker 1: announcing his retirement, Well, I would say from the coaching community, congratulations.

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Speaker 1: Coach Williams is a great guy. And the side note,

457
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's taking care of me, got me hooked

458
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Speaker 1: up down on Pinehurst to play some elite courses. So

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Speaker 1: I owe him. Now he's gonna be I told him

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Speaker 1: that now he's retired, coach, come on out. We'll play

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Speaker 1: bell Air, We'll play Rivieria We'll play La North whatever

462
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Speaker 1: you want, coach. Do you bother showing gun Shaga tape

463
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Speaker 1: to your players? Oh? Absolutely, absolutely, you know absolutely one

464
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Speaker 1: thing I can say Nan that you know, Look, we're

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Speaker 1: obviously we're decided underdog. That's okay. But in my Big

466
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Speaker 1: East days when I was rebuilding Cincinnati, unfortunately, I have

467
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Speaker 1: a lot of experience in being in double digit underdog,

468
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Speaker 1: you know, back in oh six, oh seven, o eight,

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Speaker 1: So you know, I had to deal with that quite

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Speaker 1: a bit. And we're not looking to do this, but

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Speaker 1: there was many nights that we got beat six that

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Speaker 1: we could have got to beat thirty six. So I

473
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Speaker 1: have dealt with that situation. But we'll see. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, we'll approach the game like any other, but

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Speaker 1: also knowing it's going to be tougher than any other

476
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Speaker 1: we've played this year. How tough are you though to

477
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Speaker 1: play for? Oh? Now, I think you know what's funny, man,

478
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: when you're passionate what my players all know? For my

479
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 1: problem right now, my Cincinnati players want to come to

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Speaker 1: the game. They've all they've banded together, sent me to

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Speaker 1: Texas morning. They all want to come to the game.

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Speaker 1: So I got ticket issues when you're I think people think, look,

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Speaker 1: he's all over them, but they don't. It's encouragement. Ninety

484
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Speaker 1: percent of its encouragement, you know, is that you can

485
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Speaker 1: guard him. You know you can do this. You know.

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Speaker 1: I'm just extroverted with that. I'm outward with it. Um.

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Speaker 1: So you know, in practice, uh, you know, I think

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Speaker 1: you got to bring energy. I learned that early. There's

489
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Speaker 1: a great NBA legendary workout guy, Tim Gurgeridge, and kids

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Speaker 1: they want they want to feel your energy. I learned

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Speaker 1: that from him as a young guy when he was

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Speaker 1: gave me a chance to help him work guys out.

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Speaker 1: Uh you know, as you know, players want to feel

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Speaker 1: a guy that's trying to help them get better. And

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Speaker 1: that's how you know, so they know that. So I'm

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Speaker 1: not just barking at guys to barket guys. You know,

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Speaker 1: kids wouldn't they wouldn't respond to that. But I remember,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I met you at the University

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Speaker 1: of Cincinnati when Huggins was there, but you were like

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Speaker 1: video coordinator. I think you started out there, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: for nine months then that you know, then he got

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Speaker 1: smart and from oh he promoted you. But the way

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Speaker 1: Huggins held at practice was something unlike anything I'd ever

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Speaker 1: seen before. Yes, yes, I totally agree. How would you

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Speaker 1: describe how Hugging would hold those practices at Cincinnati. Let's

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Speaker 1: just let's just you know, for people on the outside,

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Speaker 1: it's hard, you know, because so many codes people I

508
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: can't believe you said that or that, you know, but

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Speaker 1: players get it. I mean, you know when you get

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Speaker 1: especially guy, you know, the guy locker room talk, it

511
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Speaker 1: is what it is. Um. You know, in the outer

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Speaker 1: world academia would just don't understand it. Um. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's just how the kids talk, how it is at times.

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Speaker 1: And you know, again, coach, you know, Bob Huggins coaches

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Speaker 1: with love, and I give him a shout. I would

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Speaker 1: not be here if it was not for him. But

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Speaker 1: when you coach with love, Uh, the kids know it.

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Speaker 1: So you know, they again they know you're not messing

519
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Speaker 1: with him, You're trying to bring out the best best

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Speaker 1: of them, because they know he would do anything for

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Speaker 1: his players, the same and the same as I would.

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Speaker 1: But I remember this is when Nick van Exel was there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I just remember Huggins saying to the team as

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Speaker 1: somebody who shouldn't have been shooting. He just gathered him

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Speaker 1: and a couple of cuss words and then he goes like, guys,

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Speaker 1: this is your team, do you want him shooting? Like

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Speaker 1: like and I and I'm watching with the former Cincinnati great,

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Speaker 1: the late Derek Dickey, and he said, just so you know,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna watch a practice and you're gonna see something

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Speaker 1: and hear something you've never heard before. And he's saying

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Speaker 1: to the players, you guys are accountable for what goes

532
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Speaker 1: on on the floor. Do you want him shooting? And

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Speaker 1: the answer is no. You so right in front of

534
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Speaker 1: this poor guy. I don't want to mention his name,

535
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: but he goes and it was just so honest. But

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Speaker 1: you know, to be brutally honest, like you saw what

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Speaker 1: happened with coaches in the whole. You know, like you

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Speaker 1: he loves his players, But can you coach like that?

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00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: You know? You know? Yeah, I mean it's there and

540
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: the visual of what we saw and what we're all like, wow, coach,

541
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Speaker 1: you know, get it together. Yeah, the visual isn't good

542
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: sometimes again because you're on the outside. But what I

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Speaker 1: would say is two things. One the kid being honest. Unfortunately,

544
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Speaker 1: Dan sometimes we're the first person that's honest with them

545
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Speaker 1: about their basketball abilities and they need to hear that.

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Speaker 1: You know, let me honestly say, you know, what do

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Speaker 1: you want Okay, what do you want to do? You

548
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Speaker 1: want to play in the NBA ball Let me honestly

549
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: tell you that you cannot jump shoot your way to

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Speaker 1: the pros. Everybody else has told you that you're going

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Speaker 1: to have to defend your way to the pros. If

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Speaker 1: you brought my friend Corey Blunt, who was on that

553
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: team on this show, tell you that his agent told

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Speaker 1: him almost thirty years ago now that he need to

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Speaker 1: go show everybody he could shoot. And Bob Huggins stopped

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Speaker 1: him and said, don't you dare do that at the

557
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Speaker 1: NBA combine. Let him guess because you can't shoot, you know,

558
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Speaker 1: go rebound and block shots. And he's a first round

559
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Speaker 1: pick and played eleven years in the NBA. So sometimes

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00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: we're the first person to tell these guys the truth, uh,

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00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: and that that you know, that's just you know, it's unfortunate,

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00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: but they need they need to hear it to give

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Speaker 1: themselves a chance. And yeah, it's but the shot I understand,

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00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you know, the visual of it's not

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00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: always easy. If if we had a coaches one on

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Speaker 1: one of the final four coaches or three point how

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Speaker 1: do you affair the uh so Mark Mark Hugh, you

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Speaker 1: worried about Mark Hugh one on why I'd say, I'd say,

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Speaker 1: I'm six to five, okay, all right, and that's one

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Speaker 1: on one. What about three point shooting? So I'm six

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Speaker 1: to five okay? You just season, you know, we're we're

572
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Speaker 1: all in bad shape. I think, you know, I think

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Speaker 1: Kelvin went the most importantly. Who wins on the golf course?

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Speaker 1: And I got a feeling Kelvin wins that one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know we're we're coach Sampson. I you know, we

576
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: we get great friendship. You know, I just got a

577
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: feeling he's sandbagging. We up to play, but we're very

578
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: close from our battles Cincinnati and Houston, so to be interesting,

579
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: you know, but the days we're finally gonna we're going

580
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: to get to play. But I see, you know, we're Look,

581
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: we're all in the same hotel, which is weird, right,

582
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Speaker 1: So coach, you know, Kelvin, I've been talking for the

583
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: last three you know, we've been in this hotel eighteen days.

584
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: You know, hey, keep winning, keep doing it, keep winnings.

585
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: We got to win one more to play again. How

586
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: wild would that be? Well, congrats so far there, coach,

587
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: and uh, good luck this weekend. We appreciate your time

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00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: as always, it's great to finally be on. I've been

589
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: a fan of the show for a long time. Well,

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00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: I just said, you need to go with one name, mccronin, like,

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Speaker 1: just mc c r O N I N like, Like,

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Speaker 1: doesn't it sound like a like a cop show on

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Speaker 1: CBS or maybe a movie with Jason Statham mccronin. I like, no,

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00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: I like that, you know, I mean, you know, I've

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00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: seen some of his girlfriends in Hollywood. He's gonna play

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00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: me as mccrownin. I like that. From one irishman to another,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thank you, buddy, Thank you McK that's mccronin.

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Speaker 1: Mccronin UCLA head coach. We'll take a break. I told

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Speaker 1: you I was going to say that to him. You're like,

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna say that, Tom, Why not mccronin. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's take a break. We'll come back with phone calls

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Speaker 1: right after this. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show. Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine

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Speaker 1: until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 1: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at

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Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app once

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Speaker 1: again if you're just joining us. Roy Williams has decided

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Speaker 1: to retire as head coach North Carolina. North Carolina released

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Speaker 1: the information thirty three years as a Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: head coach, Roy Williams announcing his retirement went to the

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Speaker 1: final four nine times, won three titles. They bowed out

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00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: I think opening round in Wisconsin. That sound uh, sound right?

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00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: Trying to think back on the that right, North Carolina

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00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: bound out? Okay, but uh yeah, Roy was I don't know.

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00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: Do you promote from within? Who they have? Steve Robinson,

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Speaker 1: he's a long time assistant coach, a long time Hubert

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Speaker 1: is Hubert Davis on that bench yep, as a former

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Speaker 1: player there. So he was a great player. I loved

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Speaker 1: watching him, you know, Hubert Davis. Yeah, Pa, I always

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Speaker 1: think when Coach Williams is on our show, he always

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Speaker 1: looks impeccable when he's on our show, whether it's a

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00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: sweatsuit or a plaid sport coat. It's well quoft. But

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Speaker 1: the last time we had him on was pandemic and

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Speaker 1: he was in a barn or something, had a big beard. Yes,

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Speaker 1: yes see. I gotta tell you though, roy Roy Williams

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Speaker 1: picking April first is the day to announce his retirement,

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00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: and it's very poor timing. You're right about that, very

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00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,919
Speaker 1: poor timing. April Fool's day, oh dear. Yeah. But North

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Speaker 1: Carolinas sent out the note the press release. Roy didn't.

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Speaker 1: If Royce said, Hey, I'm going to announce my retirement,

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Speaker 1: did we get another source on this? We just went

632
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: with it until mccronan very poor timing. Mccronin just, you know,

633
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: probably telling all of his friends, Hey, the North Carolina

634
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 1: job is open. Jesse and la is back. Hi, Jess,

635
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? Hey? DP, Hey, but a

636
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: great interview with coach cronin us. That's a great job there.

637
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: But I got a chime in on the NCA and

638
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: I have a word problem matth equation. If you'll stay

639
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: with me to help the athletes cause here Okay, So

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00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: there are nine hundred thirty one student athletes at UCA,

641
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: which I think we can agree as a major university

642
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: in the California minimum wage is twelve dollars per hour.

643
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: And now both of these student athletes have a cap

644
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: on the amount of hours that they can practice and

645
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: trade for their sport for a week. It's regulated. It's

646
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: called five hours per day on the high end, and

647
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: they can do it through their preseason end season only.

648
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: It's six months of the high end. So if you

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00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,919
Speaker 1: got nine hundred thirty one student athletes times twelve times

650
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: twenty five hours per week times twenty four weeks, that's

651
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: the total minimum wage of justin or seven million dollars

652
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: per year amongst all athletes at the university. That's not

653
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: chump change. But you're telling me you can't get boosters

654
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: of each sport to ship in dan. I'm on the

655
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: UCLA's rugby board. It's not even an NCAA sanction, and

656
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: that's a quarter of their donations per year. So what

657
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying is pay these kids a minimum wage, boosters

658
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: extra money, not to mention tuitions. And like j Bill

659
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: it says it is a fair market per athlete. We

660
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 1: do it with the rest of society. Let Johnny Manziel

661
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: make what their demand allows them to make. If we

662
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: prepare young people in college for the real world. That

663
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: should be less than number one, Dan, And that's all

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Speaker 1: I got, right, let me ramble and he'll suck it,

665
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: Carl with a K and go Dodgers. All right, well,

666
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: thank you, jess. Oh, let's go to hear it from Jesse. Yeah.

667
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: If there's a way to do it in a playcates everybody,

668
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: help some people, some you know, student athletes there, and

669
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: then it allows you to own your likeness. Then like

670
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: you should be able to own your life, but you don't.

671
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: And I'll go back to the analogy I used in

672
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: the first hour. If you sign an autograph, you can't

673
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: sell the autograph. You can't sell the fact somebody once

674
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: your autograph, But the person getting your autograph on a

675
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 1: jersey could then sell that jersey. And that doesn't seem fair. Now,

676
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: how many of these players are going to be able

677
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: to benefit? And that's the slippery slope too. Let's say

678
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: I wanted to I'm Alabama football, Florida football. But if

679
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to recruit somebody, Let's say I got, you know,

680
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: five offensive linemen, I'm starting lineman. We're going to have

681
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: a autograph session and you know what we're going to

682
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: pay you fifty thousand dollars each. Now, obviously you know

683
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 1: that seems like an exorbitant amount, but hey, I decided

684
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: I want to pay you fifty thousand dollars. Who's regulating that?

685
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 1: Because now that impermissible benefit. It feels like if the

686
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: boosters are saying, hey, come on in. I hear that

687
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: they give you X number of dollars to just if

688
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: you're a starter starting quarterback, Hey, come on down to

689
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: my car dealership. One hundred thousand dollars for a guy

690
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: who multimillionaire or billionaire? Like would that be legal? And

691
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: that I don't know because that's you're capitalizing on your likeness.

692
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: But it's really about the Alabama football program. You know,

693
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: when Slim Pickens are was alive at Oklahoma State, is

694
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 1: that his name? Oh no, uh something Pickings Ta Boon Pickings,

695
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: Slim ta Boon Pickens. I mean he had billions. You

696
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: can just say, hey, you come here and this is

697
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: what you get. You get one hundred thousand dollars for

698
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: you know, five appearances. The only difference now is you're

699
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: going to pay taxes on the money they're paying people

700
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: years ago. A bag with one hundred thousand. Now it's

701
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: gonna be a check for one hundred thousand. You got

702
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: to pay taxes on it, Yeah, like you're I have to,

703
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: you know, make sure that people know declare this kind

704
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: of income. Yeah see yeah, but now doesn't t Boone

705
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: Pickens get to write off his donations instead of well

706
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: he would have right right, right, Well I'm saying boosters then, right, yeah, yeah,

707
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: I'm a club. Yeah, there's everyone knows there's this black

708
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: market there that's already existing, so you might as well

709
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: tax it, right, Yeah, I wonder if you if you

710
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: want it out there in the open where you know,

711
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 1: Now I have to declare this income. But I don't

712
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: know I can you get a stipend? Is it fair

713
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: to give a stipend to all athletes or just the

714
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: football players? Or what if the basketball program is bigger

715
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: than you know, the football program? Then how much do

716
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 1: you get? How much do you get if you're a starter?

717
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: How much do you get if you're not a starter.

718
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: It's you try to make it equitable. And I don't

719
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 1: know if there's easy answers here, but it's being argued

720
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: in front of the Supreme Court right now. Paul and Iowa, Hey, Paul,

721
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? Hey? Dan? First up, you

722
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: know I gotta give an apology to Carl Dickman out

723
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 1: in Arizona. If I would have known that my words

724
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: yesterday would be remixed and thrown at him again today, now,

725
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: I still would have said it. So one quick point though,

726
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: the people most upset about Roy Williams retiring is definitely

727
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: long hornation because now they're not going to get the

728
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: best coach of the off season. But to my main

729
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: point here, I'm Dan. I'm the line between gen X

730
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: and millennial. I'm twenty six years old. I lived fifteen

731
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: minutes from the Chicago Cubs Triple A affiliated Des Moines

732
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: and I just cannot be brought to care about professional baseball.

733
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: The last time I said, oh, I need to watch

734
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: that about a baseball game was getting a notification about

735
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: the Cubs rain delay in twenty sixteen. How does baseball

736
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: reach younger people that think soccer, hockey, basketball are more

737
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 1: exciting to watch than baseball. That's a big question, Paul,

738
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Speaker 1: Thanks for the phone call. That's a multi million billion

739
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: dollars question. If I had that solution, I might not

740
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: be here. But yeah, it's tough because you just you

741
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: lost a generation. I feel like and I felt like

742
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: you know when you had World Series playoff games starting later,

743
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: Like you you lose the experience of either going to

744
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: a game or watching a game. There's something lost when

745
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: you watch the highlights the next morning. But you're able

746
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: to stay up to watch some of these games, but

747
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: if they're going to start at nine o'clock or eight

748
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: thirty and you don't get to see it all the

749
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: way through and all that drama, and that's what brings

750
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: you back, plus being able to afford to go to

751
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: a baseball game, to experience the baseball game, everything that

752
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: goes along with that, and then to want to come back.

753
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: I always encourage people go to spring training games. You know,

754
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: if you if you've never taken your family or your

755
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 1: children spring training. It's it's more casual, it's fan friendly,

756
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: it's cheaper, and you might come away with the more

757
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 1: positive experience there still watching baseball, great weather and the

758
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 1: and the players are far more friendly user user friendly. Yeah, Poe.

759
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: I have some buddies who have sons, and one of

760
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: my friends his son plays baseball all the time, and

761
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: he also watches baseball all the time. It's very extreme.

762
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: I have buddies who have sons who don't play baseball.

763
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 1: They don't watch a second. But one of my friends,

764
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: his son is a Mets fan. He watches every minute

765
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: every night of his team. It's like, if you play baseball,

766
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna have the same team as your dad

767
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: and that's it, or you're not gonna have it at all.

768
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: It's very extreme. And I said this yesterday, and look,

769
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: I still love watching baseball, But how many of these

770
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: players are you know tune in factor? And I said

771
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: maybe ten? And there's so many games each night, you know,

772
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: it's it's a surplus of games instead of Hey, I

773
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: remember the game of the week and that was so

774
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: important to me. It didn't matter who was playing the

775
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: game of the week. Now I can watch every game

776
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: of every team. And then like Francisco Lindor just signed

777
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 1: a three hundred and thirty million dollar contract, I would

778
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 1: probably have to tell you by the way he plays

779
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: for the New York Mints, that shouldn't happen. Final Hour

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