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Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm for.

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Speaker 1: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 1: Edith Steak is that woo woof?

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Speaker 2: And Dan and Tye.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to.

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Speaker 4: The Solid Verbal Our Friday orbit, Dan Corrina through Space, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: hurdling through the great Unknown.

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Speaker 1: I am one of your two co hosts, Ty Hilton Brandt.

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Speaker 1: I am joined as always by that man over there

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Speaker 1: in the heart of the Midwest to true Midwesterner No,

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Speaker 1: the one and only Dan Rubenstein, Sir, how are you.

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Speaker 1: How's it going?

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty good. I'm let's say I went for a

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Speaker 3: run today. I got in ten minutes of equick, minutes

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Speaker 3: of a quick meditation. Ty really centered myself, focused on

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Speaker 3: my breathing. Great dough babies to pull out of the

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Speaker 3: fridge in a little while.

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Speaker 1: The dough babies were in the fridge on Wednesday. Did

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Speaker 1: you ever take them out or are they still in?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: It was a it's a seventy two hour ferment. They

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Speaker 3: went in on Monday and today's Thursday. It's a three

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Speaker 3: day fermentation, and I hope to have some quality tang

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Speaker 3: when I pull them out of the oven.

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Speaker 1: So this is this is truly like time lapse podcasting

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 3: It's correct. That is absolutely correct.

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Speaker 1: You have not made any progress since we last spoke

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Speaker 1: with you. What kind of a pizza operation is this?

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Speaker 2: Ty?

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Speaker 3: The gluten formation is the progress. We're talking about formation,

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Speaker 3: the microbes, the fungus, they're doing their thing. That's the progress.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a URL dub dub dub dot

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Speaker 1: Dominoes dot com.

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Speaker 3: Check it out, listen. It just depends where your bar is.

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Speaker 4: Ty.

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Speaker 3: Dominoes is cool, Dominoes is delicious, Dominoes has a place,

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Speaker 1: Let's do it.

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Speaker 3: News. So we've got opt ins, we've got opt outs,

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Speaker 3: we have transfer waivers being approved. There's lots of administrative

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Speaker 3: goings on ty where would you like to start with

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Speaker 3: this well, on the subject of long fermentation, the Joey

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Speaker 3: Gatewood and Kade May's news man or for Kentucky and Tennessee, respectively,

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Speaker 3: is nothing but good, it seems, although so obviously it

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Speaker 3: would have been nice to have them last week. Perhaps,

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Speaker 3: but Cade Mays the tackle the offensive lineman for Tennessee,

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Speaker 3: same goes for Joey Gatewood. The more I would say physical,

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Speaker 3: He's a big to something like that.

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Speaker 1: And it was a big recruit went to Auburn. Initially

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Speaker 3: As soon as that package is unveiled. Easy, Dan, easy, easy.

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Speaker 3: We will come up with the name for the Gatewood package. Oh,

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Speaker 3: whatever we will, it'll involve literation. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: it's a gate Woody. You know what a woody is, Tie,

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Speaker 3: pre su v. No, this is this is totally rated,

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Speaker 3: It was called a woody because of wood paneling. Tie, Oh,

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what I think of when you say that, So.

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Speaker 3: Ty, I don't you thinking toy story. I don't know

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Speaker 3: where your brain is.

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Speaker 1: Tie. I just don't Harrelson, right, of course, white man can't.

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Speaker 3: Jump, Okay, I don't know. I don't know where you

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Speaker 3: go with this sometimes. So yeah, hopefully in terms of

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Speaker 3: back in. James Franklin clarified that Micah Parsons will remain

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Speaker 1: The Micah Parsons one was I don't think unexpected.

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Speaker 3: Penn State fans holding out hope though I think a

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Speaker 1: He never gave it a guarantees, but he had portrayed

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Speaker 1: more about Minnesota. But his presence on that offense will

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Speaker 2: He can believe.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we'll get to that a little bit. Former

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Speaker 3: which would be very strange. But the Mountain West did

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Speaker 3: if you remember, that's when the Big Ten is starting.

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Speaker 3: And interestingly enough, Boise State has BYU independent BYU in

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Speaker 3: About ninety seconds ago. Boise travels to Hawaii and the

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Speaker 3: fighting Todd Graham's tie. Yeah and so yeah, I guess

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Speaker 3: we'll have a better formed opinion of the Mountain West schedule.

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Speaker 3: I guess by the time we discussed the Mountain West

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Speaker 3: based on the title and description. We will be doing

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Speaker 3: conference previews, probably in some form on UFOs in the future,

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Speaker 3: for the conferences that have reversed and decided to play

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Speaker 3: a season in some form this fall. But Mountain West teams,

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Speaker 3: it appears like they're playing eight games. Air Force, i'd see,

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Speaker 3: has an open date, San Diego State has a TBA

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Speaker 3: in there, but eight games looks like the schedule with

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Speaker 3: the championship game on December nineteenth. So if nothing else tie,

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Speaker 3: it means we get quality football even before the Pac

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Speaker 3: twelve comes back later at night on Saturdays.

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Speaker 1: Have we ever seen Graham and Hawaiian shirt?

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Speaker 3: I know we've seen it, though it weirdly fits, though

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Speaker 3: I don't think I've seen it, but it'll fit.

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Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking too, Like I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: and obviously he's got this fixation with the weird, you know,

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Speaker 1: looking for a picture of him in a Hawaiian shirt,

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Speaker 1: like a Tommy Bahama type thing. I can't find any

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, he's got the tan, which you know, somebody

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Speaker 3: That makes sense, so it seems like it'll fit him.

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Speaker 3: Should also be noted about Hawaii, and I suppose we'll

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Speaker 3: talk about this more when we talk more Mountain West football.

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Speaker 3: Brennan Marion has been a name that has been He's

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Speaker 3: interviewed for bigger jobs. He's the receivers coach and assistant coach,

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Speaker 3: assistant head coach or no, he's just the receivers coach.

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Speaker 3: Excuse me imading this incorrectly, but he has had his

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Speaker 3: hands on a number of high profile quarterbacks, including the

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Speaker 3: Newton brothers, Cam and Kaylin, and has what he calls

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Speaker 3: the go go offense. I read a piece about it,

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Speaker 3: go Go Audense, The go go offense involving two backs

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Speaker 3: a sort of pseudo triple option from a very different look,

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Speaker 3: and you can do a lot out of it. And

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Speaker 3: Cam Newton, I guess, has been doing a little bit

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Speaker 3: of it for the Patriots, So Hawaii's offense has a

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Speaker 3: good chance of being inventive. He was doing it at

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Speaker 3: the FCS level, so he is coaching receivers there.

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Speaker 1: The go goense. The go go offense got a great

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Speaker 1: a good name, need a good name if you wanted

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Speaker 1: the stick Man.

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Speaker 3: So I'm excited for Mountain West football like I am

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Speaker 3: every single friggin' year. Clemson lost a blue chip running

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Speaker 3: back to transfer to Marcus Bowman. Otherwise, I mean California

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Speaker 3: in terms of COVID stuff, they raised their outdoor practice

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Speaker 3: limits to seventy five players can gather, So that seems

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Speaker 3: like a positive thing for major teams in California. We're

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Speaker 3: going to be playing football. Uh app State Louisiana next

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Speaker 3: week has been postponed until early December, which was for

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Speaker 3: sure a headline, if not the headline matchup of the

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Speaker 1: The only other thing I'd point out here, like I know,

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Speaker 3: one of the more fascinating teams in the country.

436
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Speaker 2: USC.

437
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 3: So the Trojans in terms of double and triple checking,

438
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,479
Speaker 3: what they really need to make sure they get cleaned up,

439
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 3: stay healthier on defense. I don't know what that means.

440
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 3: Go to bed earlier, drink more water, do some more stretching.

441
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 3: They had some difficulty at linebackers staying healthy. They get

442
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 3: their replacing dudes, They're getting dudes back from major injuries.

443
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 3: They have a ton of talent there, but the linebackers

444
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 3: need to make a little bit more. I'm not going

445
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 3: to say more plays, but stay on the field. However,

446
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 3: you can do that, especially against the run. You know,

447
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 3: find your lanes, tackle the dudes that are running through

448
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 3: the lane. Because USC you can march down the field

449
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 3: on the ground against SC at times now it's Todd

450
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,679
Speaker 3: Orlando taking over the defense. Can they get off the

451
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 3: field on third downs? That's a huge deal because USC's

452
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 3: offense should be pretty explosive. So if you can find

453
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 3: ways to get off the field quickly. That's just enormous.

454
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 3: I mean, it's enormous for everybody. But USC looks like

455
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 3: a team that can score a bunch of points. They

456
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 3: need to get better in the red zone, and I

457
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 3: would say they need to get a little bit better

458
00:24:55,200 --> 00:25:00,120
Speaker 3: at throwing some changeups on offense. Now, this was a

459
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 3: a really really strong offense last year, but they have

460
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 3: talent at running back, so just I don't know, mix

461
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 3: in some draws keep people off balance a little bit

462
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 3: more because they have the dudes that can do that,

463
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 3: and it would take them from really strong to full

464
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 3: on war machine and that could be extremely fun to

465
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 3: watch and give the Pac twelve a much needed attention

466
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 3: boost starting November sixth, seventh. So that's that's the double

467
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 3: and triple check to me, because they're returning just a

468
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 3: fantastic secondary, I won't say fantastic, but a really good secondary.

469
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 3: It's all back and the weapons on offense look to

470
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 3: be very strong once again. So that's the double triple check,

471
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 3: double triple check. I like it, Yeah, fix it?

472
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: Should I go to Michigan?

473
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 2: Let's do it. I'm excited.

474
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 1: Same theme here. One hundred and thirteenth running game marginal

475
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: explosiveness a year ago, how many big that they have

476
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 1: the running game? Not many. Eighty second in running game efficiency,

477
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: So this is not a good running game. They have

478
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: good players, which is kind of.

479
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 3: Thee They were finding dudes too last year. They were

480
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 3: trying to figure it out.

481
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: This year, Hassan Haskins Zach Chabanet are both back. The

482
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: problem is that four of five offensive linemen are gone.

483
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 1: It actually would have been all five if not for

484
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: Jalen Mayfield opting back in. They've also got a new

485
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: quarterback situation. It's I think somewhat questionable how much teams

486
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: are going to have to worry about the past. A

487
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: lot of this offense is going to be starting over.

488
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Speaker 3: I'm excited for Big Joe, Big Joe Milton. Yeah, big

489
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 3: arm tie. Big arm can really spin it is what I've.

490
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 2: Heard sling it can spin it.

491
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's kind of a blank slate here. To

492
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 1: some extent, defense should still be really good. Really good

493
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: defense will not be the issue here. The problems on offense, though,

494
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: do extend beyond just this efficiency and explosiveness in the

495
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: running game. They got to they got to kind of

496
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: find their way in real time no doubt, it's going

497
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: to be harder, given circumstances to just try to bolt

498
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 1: this thing together. There is talent, it's Michigan, but there

499
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: are a lot of unknowns here. The problem that I

500
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: have with like being skeptical, at least within the context

501
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: of our game, it's hard to go lower than one

502
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 1: hundred and thirteenth in running back explosiveness. Like, they're probably

503
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 1: going to be better in that sense than they were

504
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 1: a year ago. So if you're using that as kind

505
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: of the bar, they will clear it this season. I

506
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: am confident that they will clear it just on talent

507
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: alone in a weird year where talent probably rules supreme,

508
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: but the offense as a whole remains a great unknown

509
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 1: because of the turnover.

510
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you're right. I mean that line needs to

511
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 3: gel quickly. They I don't leave shape. Patterson was all

512
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 3: that accurate last year. And Joe Milton, they're just gonna

513
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 3: They're gonna have to find completable passes to get him

514
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 3: in a rhythm early on in the season in a

515
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 3: very strange year. And by the way, counterpoint to the

516
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 3: running and explosiveness thing the Notre Dame game.

517
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's the counterpoint, is it the counterpoint to that?

518
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's proof of concept, though Ty, It's proof

519
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 3: of concept that they have. They have the running backs,

520
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 3: they have, you know, the ability to develop a line

521
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 3: into a place that and and maybe that's not the

522
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,239
Speaker 3: answer against Penn State or Ohio State, but to have

523
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 3: that arrow in the quiver it seems important.

524
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: You know how big Joe Milton is.

525
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 2: By the way, this show.

526
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 3: Just dedicated to large men playing quarterback. We've already mentioned

527
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 3: Joey Gatewood the Killers. Now Joe Milton, Yeah, large man

528
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:55,959
Speaker 3: six five Yeah, not boy man man. Yeah, that's a

529
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 3: big freaking dude.

530
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Excited to see him sling it.

531
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: Really spin it. Talk to me about the PAC twelve.

532
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 3: Okay, let's actually know what screw it. Let's stay in

533
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 3: the South. I tend to focus more on the North

534
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 3: because of Oregon, but let's talk about the Utah Utes.

535
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: Tell me about the Utes.

536
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 3: The Utes of Utah. So Jake Bentley enters in, and

537
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 3: I think has some promise. The corrections to me are

538
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 3: almost like, because Utah has been so successful and so

539
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 3: sound everywhere on the field, for you know, just to

540
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 3: ignore the last couple of games against Texas, and Oregon

541
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 3: last year. But you know when NBA players in the

542
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 3: off season they go hang out with a cheim Olajuan

543
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 3: and learn low post moves.

544
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,719
Speaker 1: Just the baby hook, Yeah, did well.

545
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 3: The dream shake, Yeah, the up and unders. Just Utah

546
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 3: needs a little bit of that. They're replacing their secondary.

547
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 3: But the proof of concept with how well that defense

548
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 3: replaces Dude's pretty obvious. On offense, though, I would say

549
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 3: maybe had a little tempo. They're so deliberate and they're

550
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 3: so so at times at times predictable. Though their offense

551
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 3: has been very good, and so just in those bigger

552
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 3: moments and you know, maybe it's rolling out instead of

553
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 3: just stuffing everybody to the line of scrimmage, just finding

554
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 3: a little bit more unpredictability, a little more tempo, just

555
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 3: adding that to their game. The linebackers need to be,

556
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 3: probably after a really nice run of linebackers, a little

557
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 3: bit more disruptive. But this is just it's dreamshake territory tie.

558
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 3: It's hard to look at Utah and says this needs

559
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 3: to be an enormous priority or else you're in trouble,

560
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 3: because Utah has just done so well in so many places.

561
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 3: So yeah, I would say executing downfield a little bit more,

562
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 3: and I don't know if they have the dudes necessarily

563
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 3: to do that consistently, but keep teams on their heels

564
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 3: in a way that I don't think they always do.

565
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: How long before an enterprising beat writer trots out the

566
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: term driving a Bentley as sort of a oh Man,

567
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: and this Bentley's got wheels overused pun. With Jake Bentley

568
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: now taking over the starting rains, I.

569
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 3: Don't know if he'll be put in a position to

570
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:16,719
Speaker 3: be full on electric than deserving of a nickname. But uh,

571
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 3: it won't be long time.

572
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: It won't be long.

573
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: All right, let me go back over to the Big

574
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: ten and let's talk about Wisconsin. I'll get away for

575
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: a second from the running back thing, because that was

576
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: not an issue for Wisconsin, at least not in the

577
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: running game. Passing is passing game, though explosiveness was a problem.

578
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: Jack Cone a year ago I thought had a good

579
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: enough season. I don't know if he wowed people, but

580
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: he was a lot better than I expected him the

581
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: rose Ball. The question this year is now, is it

582
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: going to be Jack Cone or is it going to

583
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: be Graham Mertz?

584
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 3: Now I have a hard talk about this I have

585
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 3: a hard.

586
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: Time with this one because I think eventually it's got

587
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: to be Graham Mertz. Graham Mertz is probably the most

588
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: talented quarterback that they've ever recruited. He comes in, there's

589
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: no doubt that he can really spin it dan and

590
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: so he gives them more. I think he gives them

591
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: more as a downfield passer than Jack Cone. There are

592
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: no obvious go to threats in the passing game, which

593
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: does make the aerial will assault a little bit harder

594
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: to suss out. But I don't know the answer to

595
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: this question because I need to know more about if

596
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: we're going to see playing time for Mertz. If it's

597
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: Graham Mertz, I think there will be an inclination to

598
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: try and stretch the field a little bit more. That's

599
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: more his skill set. If it's Jack Cone, I am

600
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: not optimistic that even if they improve in terms of

601
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: explosiveness in the passing game, that it's going to be

602
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: light years better. It's hard to go lower than ninety

603
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: fifth in terms of passing explosion. But if they get

604
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: up to seventy eighth or even sixty fifth, even though

605
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: that would mark improvement, Wisconsin should be better and they

606
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: could be better. I think if they want the Graham Mertz.

607
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: So I don't have an answer to this question. I

608
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: think they could get better if they want Mertz.

609
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 3: They've been consistently good at identifying, not great good at

610
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 3: identifying guys, developing guys, and helping to put them in

611
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 3: a position to succeed because of how dominant their run

612
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 3: games have been over these past few years. Last year

613
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 3: it was Quintez CEPHISI of course comes back after missing

614
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 3: a lot of time with his legal issues and performed really,

615
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 3: really well. The issue is, after sifhis last year, the

616
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 3: next highest receiver, and this is total yardage, which take

617
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 3: it with a grain of salt, but the next highest

618
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 3: receiver in terms of total yardage was Kendrick Pryor with

619
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 3: nearly seven hundred fewery yards. It was nine hundred and

620
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 3: one to two seventy eight.

621
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Speaker 1: It's true.

622
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 3: So it's it's finding those dudes that can keep a

623
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 3: two safety look in place for the run game, and

624
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 3: that hasn't always been the case. But yes, I would

625
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 3: imagine if we are nitpicking, those are the dudes that

626
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 3: help you beat Ohio State, which is where Wisconsin's bar

627
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 3: currently is.

628
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: I'll stick with Ohio State.

629
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 3: Let's talk buck eyes and you're gonna nitpick the hell

630
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 3: out of something.

631
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: They had a high I guess they gave a bigger

632
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: ish run plays mm hmm, which I should have looked

633
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: this up, but I believe was still improved from the

634
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 1: year prior. That was one of the big issues. They

635
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: gave up a lot of big plays on defense. I'm

636
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: not really worried about Higo State at all.

637
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 4: No.

638
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 3: I mean, well, it's two new coordinators technically, even though

639
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 3: there are co coordinators and whatever. So it's two new coordinators,

640
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 3: which has not always in this early season been the

641
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 3: greatest thing. When you have, you know, you don't have

642
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 3: a preseason. Certainly, Ohio State is on some level fortunate.

643
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 3: They had a good chance of beating Oregon, but they

644
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 3: don't have to start their season in Week two or

645
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,479
Speaker 3: whatever against Oregon. So Ohio State's in a good enough

646
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 3: place where they should be able to communicate and learn

647
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 3: new ways of operating on both sides of the ball.

648
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 3: But that's nitpicking because they've got dudes everywhere. That's they

649
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 3: just they do and you can look at little things well,

650
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 3: so okay, so maybe this isn't about the big ten

651
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 3: maybe this is about beating Alabama, Maybe this is about

652
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Speaker 3: beating Clemson. Maybe this is about beating whoever they might

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Speaker 3: have to face in a potential college football playoff, semi

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Speaker 3: final or championship game.

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Speaker 2: And so.

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Speaker 3: You look at the numbers, you watch some of their

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Speaker 3: closer games in quotes closer, there's not much to be

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Speaker 3: terrified of in terms of they need to fix this immediately.

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Speaker 3: So this is a smooth launch high as far as

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Speaker 3: we'reking something.

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Speaker 2: Smooth launch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I guess if you're going to try

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Speaker 1: and nitpick the defense, you know, they lose some dudes

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Speaker 1: in the secondary.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe they lose the best defensive player in the

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Speaker 3: country in Chase Young. That's a gravit.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so let's talk about that. That's a gravitational issue, right, sure. Sure,

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Speaker 3: that is absolutely great, like the fact that teams were

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Speaker 3: double teaming, the fact that you know, the Fox broadcast

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Speaker 3: is circling him as like, here's your problem, here's your problem, offense,

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Speaker 3: And they don't necessarily have an obvious person on that

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Speaker 3: level to do that for them this year.

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Speaker 2: So maybe it's developing a program changing talent. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: They do have a dude name. They have a dude

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Speaker 1: named Tough Borland. Yeah, which is it's almost like Hollywood

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Speaker 1: came up with that name to play middle linebacker.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing.

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Speaker 2: It's an amazing name.

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Speaker 1: I can't okay, I can't really come up with much

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Speaker 1: for Ohio State. I feel pretty confident in their ability

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Speaker 1: to get through you know whatever nitpicky stat I found.

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Speaker 3: I guess we could have saved people time and said, oh, those.

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Speaker 2: State's really good.

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Speaker 3: Everybody. We need the se boots and we need that

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Speaker 3: Seoh yeah, we do need the SEO boost. Okay, let's

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Speaker 3: talk about the Washington Huskies before going to my organ Ducks.

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Speaker 3: I'm fascinated by what Washington's gonna look like. New quarterback,

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Speaker 3: new head coach. Either consistency on defense should be really

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Speaker 3: really nice John Donovan, who I hope will be somewhat

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Speaker 3: better than how Penn State fans remember his time there.

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Speaker 3: The offense needs to be way better on third down,

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Speaker 3: as in, they may have been the worst offense on

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Speaker 3: third down keeping drives going, which is crazy considering it's

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Speaker 3: a Chris Peterson team, but they just they fell off

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Speaker 3: a cliff in bigger moments on offense and that's why

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Speaker 3: they had the season that they did. They were predictable

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Speaker 3: on offense, they had drops, they were just they weren't.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's the best word I'm looking for. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: maybe they change up the tempo here and there. I

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Speaker 3: mean John Donovan the word that everybody likes to throw

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Speaker 3: around is he's multiple.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't seem like a hurry up kind of guy

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Speaker 3: from what I remember at Penn State. No, it seems like, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't seem like a hurry up kind of guy.

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Speaker 4: Go on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying to be.

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Speaker 1: Nice and put very different, but John Donovan is John

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Speaker 1: Donovan is John Donovan.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they just on defense because the secondary should

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Speaker 3: be I think pretty excellent. They need to get back

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Speaker 3: to being more havocy. I would say upfront. That's batting

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Speaker 3: down balls, that's forcing fumbles, it's getting after the quarterback

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Speaker 3: a little bit better. I know they've had opt outs

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Speaker 3: up front, so that hurts. But whatever they're able to

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Speaker 3: do upfront to I don't know, just get a little

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Speaker 3: more juice going Ty's that's my evaluation of this pre

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Speaker 3: launch check for Washington. More juice upfront, more consistency on offense,

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Speaker 3: something that I would imagine would be welcome improvements to

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Speaker 3: Husky fans everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Close it out with Oregon, Dan, We're going to close

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Speaker 1: it out with Oregon and Penn State.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Oregon fans tore whatever hair they have out watching

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Speaker 3: the offense last year and just very predictable in short

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Speaker 3: yardage situations. It was sort of pistol left. There were

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Speaker 3: moments where they improved, it was it was just maddeningly

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Speaker 3: and consistent. So they bring in Joe mooreheads so with

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Speaker 3: a new offensive line and a new quarterback, but surrounded

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Speaker 3: by a lot of talent. It's creativity, not just to

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Speaker 3: open games, and not just the first two or three drives,

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Speaker 3: but starting third quarters, middle of the second, late.

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Speaker 2: In the fourth.

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Speaker 3: It's just an identity on offense in terms of we're

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Speaker 3: throwing something creative at you and if it works, it works.

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Speaker 3: If it doesn't, it doesn't. But let's give our team

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Speaker 3: every opportunity to execute. The running backs need to be

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Speaker 3: a little bit better. I think C. Jferdell has been

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Speaker 3: very good, but sort of in a sea lane hit lane,

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Speaker 3: don't fall kind of way, and then field goal kicking.

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Speaker 3: The fact that I am taught talking about field goal

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Speaker 3: kicking weeks ahead of the season. Tells you how terrified

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Speaker 3: I was watching orgon line up for field goals, and

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Speaker 3: I imagine everybody on the Organ sideline as well. So

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Speaker 3: I don't know, inject all of the Organ kickers feet

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Speaker 3: with spinach, whatever it takes to get a little bit

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Speaker 3: more more zazz out of this kicking team would be great.

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Speaker 3: Can you inject that's the free launch.

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Speaker 1: Check with the spinach?

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Speaker 3: I believe, I mean as far as I can tell.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they're also replacing a bunch of dudes in

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Speaker 3: their secondary, but they've recruited well enough there and I'm

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Speaker 3: not terribly worried about this defense. So those, to me,

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Speaker 3: those are the second and third necessary checks.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, let's close it out with Penn State. Penn State

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Speaker 1: gave up a lot of sacks last year. They are

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Speaker 1: very bad on third and short. Both of those things

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Speaker 1: point to an underperforming offensive line. I would also point

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Speaker 1: to Sean Clifford, who I think got worse throughout the

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Speaker 1: course of the year. Frankly, take these stats and throw

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Speaker 1: them out the window. I don't care. I don't care

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Speaker 1: about this. What I care about is the Shan Clifford

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Speaker 1: get any better. Does he look more confident when he's

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Speaker 1: out there? He had We like to talk about moments.

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Speaker 1: He had some really big moments where I think it

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Speaker 1: was apparent that this kid can perform on a big stage.

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Speaker 1: He can get the job done. Even if the numbers

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Speaker 1: don't indicate that he's having a having a day. He

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Speaker 1: does know how to win some moments. He also knows

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Speaker 1: how to look like he's on a different planet once.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes he's in a clutch situation, and I think we

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Speaker 1: saw that at times last year. I am optimistic now

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Speaker 1: with I think a better offensive coordinator him getting better.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to say the name of the offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator because we already said it like five times a show.

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Speaker 3: Do you think he might be interested in sponsoring them

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: That God, we've done so well by him.

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Speaker 1: It comes down to Shan Clifford for me. As Dan,

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Speaker 1: you said, we are going to do a Big ten

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Speaker 1: preview at some point here relatively soon, probably on one

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Speaker 1: of these Friday shows.

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Speaker 3: Maybe just we'll talk the rest of the Big Ten

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Speaker 3: and rest of the Pac twelve on another show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we haven't.

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Speaker 1: We have not figured out what the format is going

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Speaker 1: to be yet, because yeah, obviously twenty twenty is so weird.

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Speaker 1: But at some point we're going to dive in and

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Speaker 1: talk more Penn State and rest assured, Sean Clifford is

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Speaker 1: going to be a recurring theme. And I got a

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Speaker 1: lot of great things to say about the running game.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited at calling in.

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Speaker 3: The plays though for Penn State's offense.

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Speaker 2: Who's calling that game?

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Speaker 1: Let me save that for the pre I save all

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Speaker 1: that for the calls.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, dot dot dot to be continued.

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Speaker 1: All right, that doesn't unified Friday Orbit.

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Speaker 3: Dan, that's true, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: I think we did Einstein proud here.

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Speaker 3: So you had a what's the theory? It's the unified

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Speaker 3: field theory.

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Speaker 1: Unified field theory, Yeah, what is that?

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Speaker 2: Explain it to the people.

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Speaker 1: I believe it was Einstein's sort of creation or idea

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Speaker 1: for how he could marry up the theory of relativity

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Speaker 1: with electro magnetism.

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Speaker 3: Did he do it? Did it work? Not spoiler?

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Speaker 1: Not fully? But the exploration of unified field theory has

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Speaker 1: led to breakthroughs in quantum physics.

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Speaker 2: Is this something you pay attention to?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 1: Do you?

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying do you have a Google alert for

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Speaker 3: unified field theory.

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Speaker 1: I have a Google alert for the warp drive, but

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Speaker 1: not unified field.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but if you were to come across on Twitter

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Speaker 3: Are you clicking the link? Are you letting it pass

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Speaker 1: No, I'm clicking the link. The problem that I have

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Speaker 1: is that I'm not smart enough to fully understand what's

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Speaker 1: going smart enough to click the link. I'm smart enough

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Speaker 1: to click the link, to read the article and to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for that guy over there, my good friend, the

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Speaker 1: one and only Champion of the Midwest, Dan Rubinstein, for

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Speaker 1: myself to Hilton Grant here in eastern Pennsylvania. We will

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Speaker 1: catch you all on Sunday. Enjoy the games, enjoy your weekend,

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Speaker 1: and in the meantime, stay safe and stay solid.

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Speaker 3: Nice