1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: The fields on a group proudly presents Huddle Up with 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, JP Shacker John Ojan and NFL Network analyst 3 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks bring you the latest on 4 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: George Jackson Hill Jaguars. Everything's got to be about the future, 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: has got to be about tomorrow and bringing all that 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: into focus as we you know, attack the season. Huddle 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: Up with Bucky Brooks starts right now. Welcome into the 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: Huddle Up Podcast. It's Wednesday, April J. P. Shadrick with 9 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: NFL Network analyst Bucky Brooks, Jaguars dot Com Senior writer 10 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: John Osan. Subscribe to the Official Jaguars Podcast Network and 11 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: give us a listen on the podcast page at Jaguars 12 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: dot com. You can also get us on I Heart Radio, Apple, Spotify, 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: or wherever you download your pods. Leave us a comment 14 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: and a five star rating if you can. Thank you. 15 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday, Bucky. What's up? What's up? Guys? We're getting 16 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: close to the draft. I'm excited the off season proke 17 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: Ram kicked off the Jacksonville. There is a lot to 18 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: discuss and I'm excited. Yet a lot happened in Johnny O. Yeah, 19 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: I mean the draft is coming up fast, and I'm 20 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: fascinated to get into a couple of the issues. But 21 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: oh yes, we'll get to that coming up, and just 22 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: a little bit here on Huddle Up today. We start off, though, 23 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: with the off season program. As you mentioned, Bucky Well, 24 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 1: the volunteering period is underway. Players officially arrived Monday strength 25 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: and conditioning meetings. There are no coaches allowed on the 26 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: field except for the strength and conditioning staff. A few 27 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: players at the podium Tuesday, including Trevor Lawrence, Jaguar's quarterback, 28 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: explaining the fresh feeling around the organization just from like 29 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: energy and morale boost. It does feel like starting over 30 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: in a good way. You know, there's a lot of 31 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: a lot of positivity in the locker room and the building, 32 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: a lot of energy, which has been great. I think 33 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: it's important to to just kind of learn from last 34 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: year and always not necessarily think about that all the times. 35 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: You don't want to think about the bad things, but 36 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: you want to use what you learned and not make 37 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: the same mistakes, especially as individuals as as players, like 38 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: things that went right went wrong. We all have things 39 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: we can get better at, and for me, I learned 40 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: so much so I wouldn't say it's like starting over 41 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: because I'm I'm thankful for those things I learned. I 42 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: don't want to start over, you know. I want to 43 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: keep those in my back pockets. So stuff like that. 44 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: I think it's a good way to look at it, 45 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: and I think guys are doing that. Quarterback Shaquille Griffin 46 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: explained the first football interactions with the new coaching staff. 47 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: Get a chance to see the new coaches um for 48 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: the first time and have everybody back. You know, it's 49 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,399 Speaker 1: been It's been awesome. It's a different field. I love 50 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: that feeling and get a chance to be with coaches 51 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: who have experience in the league. You know, the first 52 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: day we met with coaching and people are saying, yeah, 53 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: I was in the league ten years, eleven years, ten years, 54 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: twelve years that have actually played. That's amazing to me. 55 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: And that's a person who can understand anything that I 56 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: might see or go through or maybe in the future 57 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: that can help me out. So I've liked the atmosphere 58 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: is different because it's so relatable. And then there's running 59 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: back Travis E. T n Jr. Who missed last season 60 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: with the Liz Frank Entry. He says he's eighty five 61 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: to ninety percent back and ready. But he also had 62 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: a quote of the day about last year. No, No, definitely, 63 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: just that's just a human element of it. Uh, just 64 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: send the results. You're definitely like, if there was any 65 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: year to miss, I missed a great one. Well, there 66 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: you go, Travis c t In telling it like it is. 67 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: Some different perspectives there, Bucky on last season moving and 68 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: had to twenty two. Yeah. The one thing I'm I'm 69 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: gonna start with is I'm gonna start with Shaquille Griffin's 70 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: quote and why it's relevant to where the Jaguars are 71 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: and how they can rebuild the program. He talked about 72 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: being able to have coaches who have pro experienced, guys 73 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: who have played, guys who are relatable, so they can 74 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: kind of relate to the struggles that take place between 75 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: the lines. It's really important because the one thing that 76 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: players want is they want coaches that have a level 77 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: of credibility where when things get hard, the coach has 78 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: to be a problem solved. And so it's not saying 79 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: that someone who hasn't played can be a great coach, 80 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: but there's a different connection that players have those who 81 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: have played because a lot of times, those who are 82 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: played understands that they understand the difficult downs that are 83 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: player player may experience, meaning when they're on the fields 84 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: that hey man, that's a tough play. I get that 85 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: we put you in a bad situation. However, we need 86 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,239 Speaker 1: you to do X, Y and Z. Just that little 87 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: caveat gives a player, um a little more confidence that 88 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: at least the coach understands how hard it is between 89 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: the lines. Sometimes when you have a coaching staff where 90 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: you don't have as many guys that have played the game, 91 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: sometimes they think that XS and those on the white board, uh, 92 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: play out just like that on the grass, and it's different. 93 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: It's different when you've got real players out there as 94 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: the chef pieces, as opposed to all the things that 95 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: you may draw up in the meeting rooms. Yeah, just 96 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: the experience of of of having a young team. I mean, 97 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: it's uh. But he talks about on the field, I 98 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: can probably imagine how life is off the field better 99 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: than I ever played. It's a it's a Wednesday, ay 100 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: and things are going weird, and you're sitting in the 101 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: meeting room with your coach, and you can ask the coach, 102 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: hey is this how it's supposed to be, and the 103 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: coach said, yeah, here's what I've seen before. Here's what 104 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,799 Speaker 1: I saw eight years ago when I was in Houston, 105 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: or here's where here's what I saw when I was 106 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: in Miami playing fifteen years ago. I it's certainly I 107 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: think for a young player who hasn't seen the NFL before, 108 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: helps to have a coach who's been in it for 109 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: twelve years, who isn't standing at a podium, which happened 110 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: a lot last year, or even in the meeting room 111 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: saying yeah, I'm learning about this too. That's okay. But 112 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: it strikes me that this team right now is in 113 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: a situation where it really needs the guy who's not 114 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: saying yes, I'm learning too, it's yes, I can, I 115 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: can help you get through this. And I'm with Bucky. 116 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: I think I don't know that it's always needed, but 117 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: it sure feels like it's needed, and it's going to 118 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: be a defining element of this team right now. Yeah 119 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: in some in some cases, um, it doesn't have to be. 120 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: But you would like to have a little diversity on 121 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: your staff in terms of mixture of the experience playing 122 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: and coaching. The experience because you have uh fifty three 123 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: different types of guys coming from different backgrounds in charms 124 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: of how they played, how they got to this destination 125 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: in the National Football League. And so when you have 126 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: um a diverse staff when it comes to those experiences, 127 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: you have different guys that can relate to different things. 128 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: But when we talk about the youth and inexperience on 129 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: the team, when you have coaches who have not only 130 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: coached in the league a long time, but have played, 131 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: they can explain the different cadence and rhythms of the season. 132 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: They can stand in front of the team and say, Okay, 133 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: here's where we are where the off season program, here's 134 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: what the objective is. The objective is to learn the 135 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: basis of the playbook, to get the strength and conditioning part. 136 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: Now as we're building up to the mini can then 137 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: they can stand again and say, hey, we're we're at minicamp. Now. 138 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: It's one thing to learn it, it's another thing to 139 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: be able to execute it. And now we've got to 140 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: be able to evaluate you on how you able to 141 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: take things from the meeting room to the field. But 142 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: just those little tidbits along the way will help the 143 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:18,679 Speaker 1: team because they'll understand the objective of every situation, where 144 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: we are in preseason, where we are doing the regular season, 145 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: all of those other things. I think that is the 146 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: biggest thing. From a credibility standpoint, The questions have been eliminated, like, hey, 147 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: does this guy know what he's doing? Well, now that 148 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: is out because they're not only played, but they've also coached, 149 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: and they've done it at high levels. Because you have 150 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: Super Bowl winners and both reguards. I've always said, JP, 151 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: what you don't want is guys standing around the locker 152 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: room talking amongst themselves, trying to figure out yeah, and 153 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: having little huddles in the locker room going hey is 154 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: this coach? So it's hard and once that starts, it's 155 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: hard to get it rolling the other way. Um. And 156 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: that's why again, last seven or eight years in STP 157 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: and I have been working together, He's serve me eight 158 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: a million times coaching about eight years ten years? Well, 159 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: are we talking about teams like twenty? I wanted to 160 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: just sort of minimize that. But the head coaches and 161 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: the coach's ability to have players believing in what they're 162 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: saying to me, maybe you're too far the other way. 163 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: Sometimes I think that's so much more important than ext knows. 164 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: Having these guys on the same page and believing in 165 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: you in professional football. Uh, if you don't have that, 166 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:36,719 Speaker 1: I think you're lost. And I think this staff is 167 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: gonna have that. Yeah, culture matters more than scheme. The 168 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: environment that you created matters more than the XS and os. 169 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: If there's a level of connectivity, if the program is 170 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: built on commitment, accountability, and trust, where everyone in the building, 171 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: everybody on all sides, not only the football side, but 172 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: the business side, everyone understands like, hey, here's how we 173 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: go about doing our business. Then it's a lot easy 174 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: here because everyone understands what the standards are and how 175 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: they have to live up to the standards and make 176 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: no mistake. John alluded to something that I don't know 177 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: if people realize this, but one of the first things 178 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: that players do they go to the media guy and 179 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: they look at every coach's background and they read this stuff. 180 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: And if you come from a little spot and you 181 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: don't have any relative experience, you can up there and 182 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: expose all these crazy philosophies and theories. But players are 183 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: looking at you sideways when they don't believe that you 184 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: know exactly what you're talking about, and you don't want 185 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: to have those little side conversations that John is talking about. 186 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: This is the Huddle Up Podcast. Let's hear a little 187 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: more from Trevor Lawrence. I guess kind of on the 188 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: subject Press Taylor Younger coach in the NFL. He's been 189 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: around the league. He's the offensive coordinator though for the Jaguars. Well, 190 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: the quarterback loves the interaction so far with the OC. 191 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 1: I really like his demeanor. It's really really calm. I 192 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: mean similar honestly to coach Bevil as far as demeanor, 193 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: really calm, never gets too higher, too low. Um, So 194 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: I really like that. That's the type of guy I 195 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: like to be around, and as far as just offensively 196 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: brings some different things to the table. Obviously, we haven't 197 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: been together for long. I only really started on on Monday, 198 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: so I can't say too much right now, But really 199 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: like the way he thinks about things and just how 200 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,599 Speaker 1: he the offense is so complimentary, and just how he 201 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: schemes things up. I think it's he does a really 202 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: good job of fighting the weak points of defenses and 203 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: exposing them. And I just think he's really smart and 204 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: being able to talk to him. I think we align 205 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: pretty well and we're we're on the same page. So obviously, guys, 206 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: that's important to have those two at least on the 207 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: same page working well together. Doug Peterson will come in 208 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: as the week goes along during the week and they'll 209 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: work together on formulating a game plan. But to have 210 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: that that based relationship, John Vital Yeah, and I'll I'll 211 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: throw this one to the scout because you know, he's 212 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: been in the locker rooms. He's seen more this than 213 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: I have. How much can environment and what Trevor is 214 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: talking about help him? And I guess the overwriting question 215 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: is do we even know based on anything that happened 216 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: last season, what Trevor Lawrence is going to be or 217 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: just sort of start now if they can get everything 218 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: right around him. You see I'm getting at But yeah, 219 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: I think a couple of things. I think we do 220 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: know what Trevor Lawrence is about because he dealt with 221 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: difficult circumstances last year, and I came away with more 222 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 1: respect and admiration for him after watching him go through 223 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: what he did as Rickey season than I did prior 224 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: to him arriving with the Jaguars because he was a 225 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: model uh pro and handling all of the stuff that 226 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: a rookie, a first year player should not have to 227 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: him at the base of the franchise. Secondly, I think 228 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: what Trevor Lawrence talks about Luny talked about Press Taylor's demeanor, 229 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: the calmness, the poise. That stuff matters. Because here's what 230 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: you have to understand. Trevor Lawrence comes from a situation 231 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: in Clemson where devils when he was the coach. Devil 232 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: can be maybe animated on game day, but that's not 233 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: his ordinary thing. Also, the guys that were close to 234 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: Trevor um Tony Yelliott and those guys, they also are 235 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: mere teachers than screamings. And so now what you have is, 236 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: because I noticed that person, you have Doug Peterson, who's 237 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: a teacher, not a screaming. You have Press Taylor, who 238 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: is a teacher on the scream. You have Mike McCoy 239 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: who's a teacher. You have two of those guys who 240 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: played in the National Football League. So now what Trevor 241 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,839 Speaker 1: has is a think tank of guys who cannot only 242 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: see it through his eyes, but they could give it 243 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: to him in a way that's easily digestible without all 244 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: of the emotion. And so if you think about how 245 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: heart the position is, the last thing that you need 246 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: to do is just parts through emotional responses. PREMI your coach. 247 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: The thing that players want to give me the information, 248 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: Make it clear and direct so we can talk about 249 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: it and then I can go play. I think just 250 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: in that clip, Trevor has more confidence because he just 251 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: knows the way that information is coming to him is 252 00:12:58,120 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: going to be easy for him to just kind of fly. 253 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: So didn't go and do a hard job. We'll get 254 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: press Taylor's view of this tomorrow. He's joining us on 255 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy our radio tomorrow afternoon in our first conversation 256 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 1: with the Jaguars Offensive Coordinated One more from Trevor Lawrence 257 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: and his press conference yesterday. The volunteering work with the 258 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: wide receivers at this moment is key if it's done properly. 259 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: We started throwing a little bit altogether this first time 260 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: we could use the facility, so um offseason. Obviously, most 261 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: of those guys that are new didn't get here until 262 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: right before we start O t A, so they're trying to, 263 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: you know, find places all that. So I didn't get 264 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: to work with them much this off season, So now 265 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: we got a lot of time. You know, we have 266 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: two weeks of just throwing our own and then we'll 267 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: have that period and after those two weeks where we 268 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: start getting out there with some coaches, some routes on air, 269 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: all that stuff, So you've got time to progress into it. 270 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: I feel like we're in a good spot right now. 271 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: It's I think more important just to get everybody speaking 272 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: the same language more. We're doing the installs, whatever it is. 273 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: Get everybody on the same page so when we're out 274 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: there and we're all saying the same things. Because if 275 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: you're out there and no one really is on the 276 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 1: same page and you call routes different things, that makes 277 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: it more difficult. So we're getting there now. We're working 278 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: towards it. Really like you know, from what I've f 279 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: from the what I've talked to him and I've been 280 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: around him, I really like all the new guys that 281 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: we have. I think they're all grinders, really hard workers, 282 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: and we'll bring a we'll bring something this organization needs, 283 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: you know, the right attitude, just the right guys. I 284 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: think that's just as important as getting a great players 285 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: as guys that are gonna do things the right way, 286 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: and I think all of them are that way. From 287 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: what it seems, it sounds like obviously establishing that language 288 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: is what's happening this week. It's the first time to 289 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: really talk football together, coaching staff to players. There's people 290 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: from all different walks of the NFL and football. You 291 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: have to have that one language before you can start 292 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: building an offense. Bucky. Yeah. Like listening the Trevor, the 293 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: teams are always the same. He talked a little. It 294 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: didn't talk as much about their playing ability, but he 295 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: more talked about the guy. When we talk about culture 296 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: matters more than scheme and all that other stuff. Think 297 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: in his short time he's realized that is who's around you, 298 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: and can we have uh fifty three guys that are 299 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: all doing the same things, meaning we're all working, we're 300 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: all here to get better, we're all here committed to 301 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: winning games. There's no outside distractions when it comes to 302 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: what we're doing. I think that's big, and I think 303 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: that comes on the heels of her shock talk about 304 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: not being able to go live or document things that 305 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: were inside the building, having to put the phone away. 306 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: I think what you're seeing is a level of professionalism 307 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: that is kind of being impressed upon the team. And 308 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: here's how we're going to do this. We're going to 309 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: be pros. And when we're here, we're locked in. We're 310 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: focused on getting better and it's more about putting in 311 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: the work, unless about all the other stuff that can 312 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: be secondary to winning games. Not quite the concentration line 313 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: from back in the old days, right, But I mean 314 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: even though the concentration line, look man, the concentration line 315 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: in theory, but sometimes you need to stap into focus. 316 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: I thought it was a thing I would think for 317 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: John when John walking across that concentration line, he went 318 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: out there to do the best job that you can do. 319 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: Is locked in watching all the people. I think sometimes 320 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: it makes you stand up a little straighter. For years, 321 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: I had a concentration line signed for years that I 322 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:19,359 Speaker 1: took from Steven's point the first training camp. Um and uh. 323 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: But I think this is a very important offseason and 324 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: jps eyebrows are gonna raise because I always talk about 325 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: how unimportant the off season is, but who are you? 326 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: I've always said for a young quarterback and especially a 327 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: young offense, off season are very important. I'm looking forward 328 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: to testing my theory someday JP, where if you have 329 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback who still needs to be here during 330 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: the off season, but veteran people around him, uh, with 331 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: a coach and a coordinator who have been here for 332 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: a couple of years, then I think the off season 333 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: attendance guys being here uh diminishes, the need for that 334 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: diminishes greatly, and then it really can become voluntary. Guys 335 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: can come in and and sort of check in and 336 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: see what they need to know, what they need to learn. 337 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: But for a new staff, for new people getting to 338 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: know each other, this time is critical. And uh, unfortunately 339 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: Ja has been in a cycle of newness, so all 340 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: seasons are always critical. And uh, you know, is this 341 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: more critical than others? I don't know. It is because 342 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: it's now and because you want this team to get 343 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: better and uh, I loved writing her from Trevor yesterday. 344 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: I'm with Bucky. I think he gets it. I think 345 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: he gets what's important first and understands if he has 346 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 1: the right guys around him, everything else falls into place. 347 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: Because these guys are pros. If they're the right guys, 348 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: they'll figure it out. Hold on the job. I'm a 349 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: pushback on you because the off season important all the 350 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: time regards to whether you're a veteran or a young guys. 351 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: It's very important because I know you talked about just 352 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: popping get what you don't know. We don't do that. 353 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 1: We need you here, We need a percent attend It's 354 00:17:54,520 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: it's Florida, it's warm. Volunteer volunteers want to be great. 355 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: We have a lot of volunteers, a lot of volunteer. 356 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: We have a great attendance. But for Trevor, the reason 357 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: this is important, The biggest jump that quarterbacks make typically 358 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: is from their first year to their second year. And 359 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: the reason why this is the most players in general. One, 360 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: you now have a better understanding of the NFL game. Two, 361 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: you now have a better understanding of your weaknesses as 362 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: relates to the NFL game. If you've had a real 363 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 1: off season to work on your game, not to work 364 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: on combine training and all the other stuff that precede 365 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 1: your rookie season. The other part is you now understand 366 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: how to put a plan in place to put yourself 367 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: in a position to be at your best. You've experimented 368 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: with things throughout your rookie season based on what you 369 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: learned from veterans and the coaches or whatever. Now you 370 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: begin to put a plan in place. So this offseason 371 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: is him putting it all together, him having a better 372 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: understanding of what's real and what's needed and what's unnecessary. 373 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: And I think his language when he talks about guy 374 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: as being on the same page, the same verbage and 375 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 1: all that comes from last year. Maybe it's been in 376 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: a mess and him rear value Reodson, Yeah, this probably 377 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: could be a little better when it comes to me 378 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: getting ready to play with my guys on the court. 379 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: For young players, it's critically important for a five year veteran. 380 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: Everybody Reggie Wayne after after his third year and I 381 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 1: hope I'm getting I'm getting the year right, and a 382 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: Fredd here, listen to this. If I'm wrong, I apologize. 383 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: Throughout his career, once he got himself established, he'd come 384 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: in the first week of voluntaries, make sure he knew 385 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: it was going on. Come back second year of mandatories. 386 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I'll come back for the mandatory, 387 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: come back for training camp, play the season, go to 388 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl, go to the playoffs, come back do 389 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: it again the next year. For guys like that, you 390 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: don't need it for Indianapolis. What am I doing in Indianapolis? 391 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: It's cold, it's snowy. How can I get good work in? 392 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: We're talking about a different hard and Jacksonville is warm. 393 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: Running back, I ever saw the same thing here, Fred Taylor. 394 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: If you're I think you got him, John, Winner, John, 395 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: talk to your boy m j D about the off season. 396 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: That's right. You'll see him in a couple of days. 397 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: He'll lie to you and tell you he was here, 398 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: but he wouldn't know you. See. But I look, I've 399 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: seen mg D in no disrespect with m j D. 400 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: Looks like he still needs to be an off season program. 401 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: Now that's that's my point. I need him back so 402 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: I can monitor and make sure he's good. That's fair. 403 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: You win that one, okay, Winner Buck. The Jaguars are 404 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: a future focused and ready for a new look in 405 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: Join us to the bank this season as Doug Peterson 406 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: and Trevor Lawrence lead the charge. Locking your seat at 407 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com, slash tickets were called nine oh four 408 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: six three three two thousand. Bucky brings out the draft 409 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:57,479 Speaker 1: crystal ball after this Welcome back to the Huddle Up Podcast. 410 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick, Bucky Brooks, John Osan the upcoming dailies 411 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: Place schedule. It's getting red hot, Little Dirk April nineteen, 412 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: Tim McGraw May five, Erica Bado with jaw Rule, and 413 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: Goody Mob May six. Later this spring and summer, two 414 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: nights of Dave Matthews Band, two nights of Lumineers, two 415 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: nights of Keith Urban, tickets and Info Daily's place dot com. 416 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 1: When was Goody Mob pop? That's years yeah, a while ago. 417 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: That was when I was playing geez yeah, that's really 418 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: excited about my ear getting ready for Keith Urban. He 419 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: brought a big good mob. It takes me to a 420 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: different place. That's certainly a different place. Nineties locker room 421 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: I believe had some Goody Mob playing. I bet they did, 422 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: Bet they did. Hey, we're two weeks to the NFL Draft, 423 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: a little over two weeks, two weeks in a day 424 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: in fact, Bucky on April thirteen, this Wednesday, what are 425 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: you feeling at number one overall? Right now? At the 426 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: end of the day, I think eight Hutsonson is going 427 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: to be to pick. I think we're gonna go through 428 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: this securitist route where we go all over the place, 429 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: and we talked about all these different guys. I think 430 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, when you hear the 431 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: players talk about the locker room, the environment and best stuff, 432 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,719 Speaker 1: the most important thing you have to do when you're 433 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson you're bringing in a new era, is the 434 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: first pick has to embody everything that you're about. When 435 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: I think about Aidan Hutchinson, we can talk about the 436 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: production and all the other stuff, but the guy, the 437 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: player himself, he feels right in with what they talk about, 438 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: being a blue collar workers, someone that comes to work 439 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: every day, punches the plot, puts in everything that he 440 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: can to maximize his talent. I'm banking on that guy 441 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: over anything else. Um. I think the conversation over Trayvon 442 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: Walker is real. I think it's interesting, and I think 443 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: it's interesting based on um the past of not only coaches, 444 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 1: but the general manager of Trent Barky, because of the 445 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: success that he had identified pass Rushes at his previous 446 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: stop in San Francisco. But I think it's just important 447 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: that you have a guy in Hudchson, you have like 448 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: real production that you've seen that you can document. I 449 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: think in Trade Milwaukee he's a better run defended than 450 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: past Russia number one. Overall, that guy has to impact 451 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: the game in a dominant fashion. And so I was 452 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: just leaning towards Hutchinson over Walking, and I think everybody 453 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: else is like a complimentary conversation that we have to 454 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: talk about. But I think it comes down those guys. 455 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: By the way, our friends at Pro Football Focus just 456 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: released their podcast series today entitled hutch The Story of 457 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: Aiden Hutchinson. Four podcasts released today, over fifty interviews of 458 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: people around them at Michigan family members, the whole thing. 459 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: So check it out. Wherever you've done your yours truly 460 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: is on there. You're on there too. Not a humble brad, 461 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 1: but yours truly made it get a little a little cameo. 462 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 1: And that wasn't even that humble. Yeah, I mean that 463 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,479 Speaker 1: was I mean, that was just a prag humble right, 464 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: Like if you say humble brag, that's one of those 465 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: things you can kind of it's almost like saying no 466 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: disrespect and then you just disrespect whoever you're about to 467 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: set said. Yeah, hey, by the way, you know, I 468 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: saw on Twitter. I guess because it's on the internet, 469 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: it must be true. Um. The idea of smoke screening 470 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: at number one overall, Oh the Jags are smoke screening? 471 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 1: Well is Walker talk and things? And then Hutchinson, Why 472 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 1: would the Jaguars need a smoke screen Is that really 473 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: a thing? At number one overall? Just pick the guy right? 474 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: Why does it matter? I don't like. I don't know 475 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: if it's the Jaguars doing it. I think it's more 476 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: so everyone wants to be right for their mock draft right, 477 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: So everyone is digging and trying to come up with 478 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: these connections as to why the Jaguars would take this 479 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: player over that player, as if they know. I heard, 480 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: not even related to the Jaguars, but I heard the 481 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints made a trade because Doug Marone was 482 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: the oldline coach at Alabama and they got these two 483 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: picks and then they can move up to get Evan Neil, 484 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 1: who Doug Marone coach at Alabama. I mean, that's that's 485 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: what you have. During this time of year is lying season. 486 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: Everyone is lying about whatever. But there's no reason for 487 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: the Jaguars to misrepresented. In fact, I don't think that that. 488 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: I think we on the outside, because there's so much time, 489 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: we get bored. If we got tired of seeing the 490 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: same names up there, so we threw a different name 491 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: and had a different conversation. But I don't think the 492 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: Jaguars have done anything. I think they're doing right by 493 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 1: bringing all of these guys in because you just never know, 494 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: if not this year, you don't know four or five 495 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: years down the line, when free agency happens, if someone 496 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: is traded, if someone's cut. You want to have all 497 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: that background information on them in case you get to 498 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: do it that you can with you, Bucky, I know 499 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: you don't know exactly, uh, the timeline on when the 500 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: Jaguars will decide who they're going to take, but typically 501 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: take the fan who's never been inside that process. How 502 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: typically would that work in terms of the process, the meetings, 503 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: the conversation. Do general managers typically say, Okay, I want 504 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: to know who I'm taking at a spot or I 505 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: want to know my three if then scenarios by X 506 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: date because they have to got I assume you locked 507 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 1: that at some point. But what's the normal timeline for 508 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: things like that as you approach the draft in the 509 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: final A couple of weeks okay, So as we're taking this, 510 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: we have two weeks before the draft starts. So what 511 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: typically happens is, UH, the guys, the scouts should be 512 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: back in meetings. Didn't want the final part of the board, 513 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 1: meaning they're going over. They've done all the pro they workouts, 514 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: they've done all that other stuff, they got all the 515 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: measurements and data and information, got all the background stuff 516 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: in UH. Now security should come in and provide like 517 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: the the character assessments in reports where you dig into 518 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: the stuff, so now you have all that other stuff. 519 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: Those are mamnethly important. Yeah, those those those are huge 520 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 1: important because you're trying to make sure there's nothing in 521 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: the background us going to embarrass the organization, UM and 522 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: those things. You want to be aware of all the 523 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: situations that your prospects have been in so you make 524 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: decisions whether to continue to evaluate them or whether to 525 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: remove them from the board. The medical team comes in 526 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: with the final medical analysis. That stuff should be in 527 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: this week, so you can have that discussion next week. 528 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: But by the end of next week, all of that 529 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: stuff should be in. The board should be pretty much 530 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: firm and concrete when it comes to that, and then 531 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: it's a matter of just going through draft scenarios. Now, 532 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: when you're number one overall, you can droll the board, 533 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: you make the decision, you continue to go back and forth, 534 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: um uh, Doug Peterson, trip ball, pepill, go back and say, hey, 535 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 1: have we missed anything. Hey, let's let's compare these top 536 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: two guys again or these top three guys. Well what 537 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: if we did that? Just go through it one more 538 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 1: time to make sure you feel good about the decision. 539 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 1: And then at some point you got to make decisions. 540 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: So when we roll into that final week, we should 541 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: know with about ninety percent certainty, hey this guy is 542 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: going to be a pick. And then what you're hoping 543 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: as your scouts of making phone calls and hey, where 544 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna be on draft night and all this other 545 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: stuff that everybody's okay. That's why they make those phone calls, 546 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: to make sure everyone is okay. Are you healthy? Are 547 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: you good? What's your phone number? Your backup number? Because 548 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: I gotta talk to you before I pick you, because 549 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to uh draft someone who's something that's 550 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: happened in the last minute. And then you suck with it. 551 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: Yeah that's the thing, and then you the only thing 552 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: to pop up the last week before the draft to 553 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: social media all that stuff you never know, and then 554 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: at some point someone if you're the GM, it comes 555 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: down to you, right, Bud. Yeah, Look, in a in 556 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: a perfect world, you want to make sure that everyone 557 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 1: is in lockstep, that you don't have like a tie 558 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: situation or that you're you're you're hacking over. I like 559 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: understand it. I like walking this and that. Like you 560 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: want to find a player that everybody in the room 561 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: feels good about, and even if you were the dissenting 562 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: opinion in the room, once the decision is made that 563 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: he's going to be a Jaguar, everybody's on board with. 564 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: Everyone has to represent and saying okay, this is I 565 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: got this is where we're going. You fight a good 566 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: fight as a scout, But once that decision is made 567 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: that we're going to take X at the number one 568 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: over our pick, everybody rather behinds and everyone needs to 569 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: make sure that the language and everything is positive when 570 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: we talk about that player going forward. He's a Jaguar, 571 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: He's not such a suchive guy. Bucky, What's what's been 572 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: happening lately on pass to the draft and what do 573 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: you have coming up the rest of this week? Well, 574 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: you know, we just just continue to kind of do 575 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: these things, bust up these rumors and try and pick 576 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: who the guys. I think this is a week what 577 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: we're doing cluster busters, trying to sort out the segments 578 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: and look beyond the first round, start looking at the second, third, 579 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: rum seat what would be like these scenarios And then, 580 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: you know, getting my little plans together to come to 581 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: Jacksonville so I can be there with you guys, and 582 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: I can see all the anxiety and nervousness and all 583 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: that stuff from you guys up close and personal, and 584 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: I can just calm everybody down and say, hey, we 585 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: got this, we got a first bag, we mess it up, 586 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: we got it. I know Jo likes to get dirt, 587 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: Bucky Bucky, Bucky young Buck. Yeah. I don't get that 588 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: nurse for the draft anymore. But it's uh as we closed, 589 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: give me your guy at thirty three. I mean ask 590 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: you every week, but give me your guy at thirty 591 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: three this week. After you've done all your mocks. I 592 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: know you sit there every day and do a mock 593 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: draft by yourself on your own little whiteboard. Who's going 594 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: to be available at that spot? That's the best pay. Now, 595 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: the thing would be, how do you want to play. 596 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: I think you could be looking at a scenario where 597 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: Tyler Lendenbaum is right there at thirty three, and you 598 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: have to make a determination on whether you want to 599 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: take a really good football player who has been a 600 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: good football player for a long time in college, has 601 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: comes from a great program, but he is uh, he 602 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: has shorter arms, and he only can play one position, 603 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: which is center. He plays center like an all pro, 604 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: but you only can play one position, and so I 605 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: think he is going to be there for me. Given 606 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: uh Doug Peterson's experience with Jason Kelsey and how important 607 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: it was to have a guy that can move and 608 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: do that stuff, I could see Lendenbaum being a perfect fit. 609 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: Hard to pass on him if he's there, right yeah, 610 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: because I think you want to continue to build it up. 611 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: You want to put the best offensive line together that 612 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: you can assemble. I don't think he would be a 613 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: great pieces do you have it? Of course, Bucky is 614 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: that would be pretty nice. Bucky, As you said, you'll 615 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: be here for the NFL Draft our coverage on Jaguars 616 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: dot Com. We'll have a show's leading up to the draft, 617 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: a draft party on Thursday, a more details to come 618 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: within the week or so about access for fans to 619 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: that draft party. Happy Our Radio tomorrow at four o'clock 620 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: on Tin, TIN, X L A M and Jacksonville and 621 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: the Jaguars social channels, with offensive coordinator Press Taylor joining 622 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: us in studio. Get his thoughts on the first few 623 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: days of meetings with players, including the quarterback Trevor Lawrence. 624 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: I was on podcast this week, coming up on podcast 625 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: and it'll need to be Mike McCoy or Travis e TM. 626 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: We haven't decided wh when we're going to roll out, 627 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: and before we closed that I do want to say 628 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: again I say the last couple of weeks, Uh, starting Monday, 629 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna start rolling out Bucky and my draft stories. 630 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: It's mostly Bucky. He contributes big time and uh, it's 631 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: not that often that you get that much jag are 632 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: specific out of a national guy who's tuned in his Bucky. 633 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: So it's it's worth the read. I've seen the first couple. 634 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: It's a good job. So people should uh click on 635 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: that and read it for him and not met Bucky. 636 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: How about that? Yeah, I appreciate it being really complimentary. Everything, 637 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: Like I need to check and see what's in that 638 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: Cup because I'm gonna make sure that Exlaim, the same 639 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: beverage is in the cup when we get in the draft. 640 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: Listen to all our podcasts on the podcast page on 641 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: Jaguars dot com, with the Official Jaguars Podcast Network on 642 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio, Apple, Spotify, or wherever you download your podcasts. 643 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: Leave us a comment at a five star rating for 644 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, John Oser, and our producer Joe Fortunato. I'm J. P. Shadrick. 645 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: We'll catch you next time on the Huddle Up Podcast.