1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 1: There's a lot of mystery surrounding Dan cev Like all 2 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: history that blends with folklore, some of the finer details 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: have changed over time. It's even likely that cev might 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: have created part of his own cd, if not legendary status, 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,159 Speaker 1: all by himself. There are facts he was born in 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: Maine in eighteen sixty five, and his father worked as 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: a schooner captain. At twelve or thirteen, he ran away 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: from home and found work on board steamers. From there, 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: he joined the U. S. Navy and served three years. 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: Eventually he wound up in Wisconsin, where he got married 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: and took a job as a deputy marshal for the 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: Bureau of Indian Affairs. By the eighteen nineties he had 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: settled down on a small farm in Milwaukee. Then one day, 14 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: his perfectly normal life took an odd turn. Dan Cevie 15 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: abruptly sold his property, abandoned his wife and two children, 16 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: and began a career on the water. He earned money 17 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: the old fashioned way for a mariner at the time, 18 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: transportation services for loggers, trappers, and lumber mills, although the 19 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: real money came from his side hustle, smuggling, poaching, and 20 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: the occasional bootlegging, and his appearance made him as notable 21 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: as his services. He stood six ft four with two 22 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: fifty pounds of muscle, and spoke with a strong New 23 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: England accent. It was a physique that made him a 24 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,199 Speaker 1: gifted brawler, and if his fists weren't enough, he also 25 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: carried a pistol. With all that, it's easy to say 26 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: that he had a reputation, although he often complained that 27 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: the worst stories were just rumors. Folks said that he 28 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: would extinguish other boats guidelights, causing them to run aground. 29 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: Once vulnerable, the ship's made for easy boarding and looting. 30 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: Of course, he claimed that he hadn't done anything wrong. 31 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: The boats were shipwrecks after all, And if that action 32 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: sounds like a pirate to you, and then you're not alone. 33 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: Take for example, the events of nineteen o eight, when 34 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: officials arrested him for that exact crime. Apparently, on June 35 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: eleven of that year, dan Sev and two of his 36 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: sailors met R. J. Mc cormick, the captain of the 37 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: Nellie Johnson, a lumber schooner, at a local tavern. The 38 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: drinks flowed heavily and once McCormick and his crew were 39 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: sufficiently drunk, CV and the others made off with their ship. 40 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: He first set out for Chicago, where he hoped to 41 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: sell the lumber. However, for whatever reason, no one was buying. Meanwhile, McCormick, 42 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: now very sober, reported the theft. Government officials in Chicago 43 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: sent the ship Tuscarora after c V. The word also 44 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: went out to lighthouse keepers, and before long CV and 45 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: the Nellie Johnson were spotted in a river near Frankfurt. 46 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 1: Sources say that CV tried to outrun the steel hull 47 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 1: gun ship, but surrendered when the crew fired a cannon 48 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: shot at the water line near Nellie Johnson's bow. Officials 49 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 1: boarded the ship and arrested CV on piracy charges, although 50 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: he was later arraigned for mutiny on the high seas. Instead, 51 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: ah pirates well usually envisioned them sailing the Caribbean, boarding 52 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: merchant vessels, flying the black flag, and barry in their 53 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: treasure on some remote sandy beach. But as we're about 54 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: to learn, some of the most fascinating characters in the 55 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: pirate world conducted business away from the ocean waves. To them, 56 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: there was no better place to be a pirate than 57 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: lakes and rivers. I'm Aaron Manky and welcome to pirates. 58 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: Before rail cars became the most efficient way to move 59 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: people in goods, riverboats were the preferred method, and just 60 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: like their seafaring counterparts, riverboats faced similar threats. With the 61 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: Ohio and Mississippi rivers so frequently traveled, it's no surprise 62 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: that river pirates saw plenty of opportunities. In the eighteenth century, 63 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: the Spanish and British sought to expand their colonies along 64 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: the Ohio River. Immigrants often traveled to Kentucky, Ohio, Indiana, 65 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: and Illinois in flat bottom rafts aptly named flatboats. They 66 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: were great alternatives to navigate, eating through dense forests and 67 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: rough terrain. The captains traveled back and forth between cities 68 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: and towns, transporting and dropping off anything from coal and 69 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: flower to cattle and slaves. But all this travel and 70 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: transport by water came with plenty of risks. Rocks, sandbars, storms, 71 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: and even submerged trees could spell disaster. If that weren't enough, 72 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: they were frequently traveling through land that belonged to the 73 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: indigenous peoples of the area who defended that land. Oh 74 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: and River pirates. The trouble is fact in legends sort 75 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: of intertwined when it comes to river piracy, and documentation 76 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: is sometimes sparse. The one early account, though, is a 77 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: fairly well documented story of Captain Samuel Mason, born in Norfolk, Virginia, 78 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: in seventeen thirty nine. Mason's criminal lifestyle began with stealing 79 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: horses and slaves in the late seventeen sixties, but he 80 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: also committed murder, counterfeiting, and piracy. He and his gang 81 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: set down roots in Henderson, Kentucky, though back then locals 82 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: called the area at Banks nestled along the Ohio River. 83 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: The settlers found the location the perfect place for homes, taverns, 84 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: and a few stores. By the seventeen nineties, though the 85 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: quaint town had become home to robbers, outlaws, and cutthroats. 86 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: Mason and his men shifted their headquarters down river to 87 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: a cavern in an area famously known as Cave in Rock. 88 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: The fifty five foot wide cave made for a great camp, 89 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: and the cliff above provided a clear sight of approaching flatboats. Now, 90 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: river pirates operated a bit differently than their ocean dwelling cousins. 91 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: They lacked massive ships with their black flags. Their method 92 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: of plundering more closely resembled highwaymen. Mostly, there were two approaches, 93 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: one getting the boats to dock or run them aground. 94 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: In this method, gag members hailed passing ships and pretended 95 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: to be lost in the wilderness, or they'd say that 96 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: they needed supplies for their survival or well being, even 97 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: offering money if the boat came to shore. Since sandbars 98 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: and other obstacles posed a hazard to boats, locals familiar 99 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: with sections of the river made an honest living as 100 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 1: a guide, but clever opportunists, as they are, pirates in 101 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: the rivers pretended to be reputable guides as well. However, 102 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: once aboard, the impostor guided the ship into trouble where 103 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: his gang members waited. Doct and empty boats also made 104 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: an easy target. The pirates board small holes into the 105 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: bottom or removed the calking on the side. Unsuspecting crews 106 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: would load their boats unaware that they would soon be 107 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: taking on water, and once the captain and crew were distracted, 108 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: the pirates would rush the ship, taking the cargo and 109 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: killing those aboard if necessary. Like many of their sea 110 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: dwelling counterparts, river pirates were ruthless after killing the captain, 111 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: they would loot and burn the flatboats. The stolen goods 112 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: found their way to unscrupulous store owners, and the money 113 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: from those sales always seemed to find their way back 114 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: to the pirates. When the Spanish captured Samuel Mason in 115 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: eighteen oh three in what is now southeastern Arkansas, he 116 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: insisted that they had the wrong guy and that he 117 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: was a simple farm. Of course, the seven thousand dollars 118 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: in his bank account and the twenty scalps found in 119 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: his cabin suggested otherwise. The Spanish turned Mason and his 120 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: crew over to the Americans during their transport to Mississippi, 121 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: though they overpowered the guards and took refuge in the forest. 122 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: But as the saying goes, there's no honor among thieves. 123 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,119 Speaker 1: Mason's crew killed him, cut off his head, and brought 124 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: it to the authorities, hoping to claim a reward, but 125 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: after being identified by another captain as Mason's crew, all 126 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: of them were taken into custody and hanged for piracy. 127 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: Mason had been successful due to his organizational skills, admirable 128 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: for sure, but surprisingly there was another who took planning 129 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: to a whole new level. Pirate's hails remained heavily steeped 130 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: in legend. But that's sort of the draw, isn't it. 131 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: The blend of historical records and hand me down tales 132 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: are often inseparable and fascinating. Such is the case with 133 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: James Ford, sometimes called Satan's Ferryman. His story starts routinely enough, 134 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: but it's of note here that each piece sets the 135 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: stage for later success. Ford was born somewhere around seventeen 136 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: seventy five in Spartanburg, South Carolina. After the death of 137 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: his father, his mother remarried and the family moved to 138 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 1: Princeton in Caldwell County, Kentucky. In seventeen ninety seven. Ford 139 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: chose Cavin Rock to call his home for the rest 140 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: of his life. He married Susan Miles, the daughter of 141 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: a ferry owner operating on the Ohio River nearby. Sometime 142 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: around eighteen hundred, he and three other men were appointed 143 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: for road survey and construction to Miles Ferry, the same 144 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: ferry owned by his father in law. James and Sarah 145 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: have three children, Philip, William, and Cassandra. Early on, he 146 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,239 Speaker 1: earned a living as a farmer, buying and operating farmland 147 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: on both the Illinois and the Kentucky side of the river, 148 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: as well as an operation on Hurricane Island just downstream 149 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: from Caven Rock. His business venture made him successful. Records 150 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: show that while he didn't own any land in eighteen hundred, 151 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: just four years later he owned two hundred acres. Over 152 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: the years, he listed his children as owners of those 153 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: parcels and set up his own homestead just five miles 154 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: south of Cave In Rock. He later entered the military, 155 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: although he never spent any time in battle. For a 156 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: few years he even served as a cavalry captain in 157 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: the twenty four Kentucky Militia Regiment. Then in eighteen o 158 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: four he became a Justice of the Peace. It probably 159 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: goes without saying. Between his military service and dedication to 160 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: the community, both the public and the local government looked 161 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: up to Ford. The court accepted almost every motion he 162 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: ever made before them. Then in February of eight he 163 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: became Livingston County's sheriff. His six foot tall, muscular build 164 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: must have done a lot to deter criminals. His head 165 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: of sandy hair and steel gray eyes framed a large 166 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: and well defined face, and when he spoke, his deep 167 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: voice carried none of his appearance or manners came off surly, 168 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: though well unless provoked. Those who made such a mistake 169 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: found themselves severely outmatched. A worthy sheriff and a busy man, 170 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: for sure. But despite all his community effort, he still 171 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: had one more business endeavor, a ferry of his own, 172 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: aptly named Ford's Ferry, just a couple of miles upstream 173 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: from Cave in Rock. But FOURD didn't run the ferry 174 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,599 Speaker 1: business himself. On the Kentucky side of the river, he 175 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: left operations in the hands of his sons, Philip and William, 176 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: plus a third guy named Vincent B. Simpson. On the 177 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: Illinois side of the river, he hired Henry Schuss to 178 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: run things for him. Now, remember this was long before 179 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: our modern infrastructure of highways and bridges, and without bridges, 180 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 1: ferries were the only way to cross a river, making 181 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: them a very lucrative business. And where there's money, there's competition, 182 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: which brings us back to those roads, because fairies with 183 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: the best roads were often favored by more travelers. More 184 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: travelers means more money, so Ford used his political power 185 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: as sheriff to get the county to maintain the roads. 186 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: That led to his ferry business and then paid from 187 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: his own pocket to maintain them on the Illinois side. 188 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: Throw in some roadway signs and cards left at saloons 189 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 1: advertising his ferry, and it's easy to see how Ford 190 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: became one of the most successful ferry owners around. But 191 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: the most traveled road and ferry also meant that it 192 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: was a favorite of highwaymen and river pirates, and one 193 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: such group formed to take advantage of travelers. Locals called 194 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: them the Ford's Ferry Gang or the cave in Rock Band, 195 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: although it's fair to note here that the other roads 196 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: and ferries also had similar attacks. Interestingly, whenever word got 197 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: out about the robberies and murders happening on his stretch 198 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: of the road or ferry, sheriff Ford reported that he 199 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: had found the gangs responsible and had run them out 200 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: of town. Feeling safer, travelers would resume using the roads 201 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: and Ford's ferry. Then the cycle would repeat, more attacks, 202 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: more reports, and more help from the good sheriff. It 203 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: looked like Ford had everything. His ferry became a high 204 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: the profitable business, he had a comfortable life in town, 205 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: and the citizens valued and respected him his work as 206 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: a devoted sheriff. Had made their travel safer, or at 207 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: least so it appeared. James Ford's story unravels like an 208 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: action novel. It started with two men, Dr. Charles Webb 209 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: and his brother John. The pair had set out from 210 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: Louisville on a flatboat down the Ohio River, accompanied by 211 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: the captain and three crewmen. While the captain and crew 212 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: were making their way to New Orleans, Charles and his 213 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: brother had their sight set on St. Louis. The day 214 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: was pleasant enough, and the men talked and shared a 215 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: few drinks. Charles, being an avid flute player, even entertained 216 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: the men with a song or two. One day on 217 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: the journey, they spotted a woman standing on the cliff 218 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: above a cave entrance. She frantically waved a white cloth 219 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 1: to get their attention. The captain pulled close to shore 220 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: to better hear her. A man exited the cave and 221 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 1: addressed the captain. He said the woman and a young 222 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: boy were traveling together and inquired if the captain had 223 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: rations for sale. The captain replied that he did not, 224 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: so the man instead offered money for passage down the river, 225 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: and either the captain wasn't aware of such traps or 226 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: he took pity on the stranded travelers, and so he agreed. 227 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: The man left to go get the woman and the boy, 228 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: while the captain and Charles's brother John took the opportunity 229 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: to go ashore for a few minutes. Charles and one 230 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: of the crew stayed with the flatboat, though after some 231 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: time had passed, he left Charles and went to the 232 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: cave to see what was taking so long. At sunset, 233 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: Charles felt relieved when three figures emerged from the cave 234 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: and headed toward the boat. At the time he realized 235 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: they weren't the crewmen, though it was too late. The 236 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: men boarded the flatboat pistols drawn, and warned him that 237 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: if he made a sound, they would kill him. They 238 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: bound his hands behind his back and blindfolded him. Minutes later, 239 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: the river pirates loaded him onto a skiff. Although he 240 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: couldn't see or determine what direction they were headed, he 241 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: heard the man in his skiff whispering to men in 242 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: another Finally, though, the men stopped rowing, and one of 243 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: them told him that they were going to let him 244 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: go against orders, but the man warned it would be 245 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: best if he continued downstream for a while and without 246 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: any noise, The man loosened the ropes, and once they left, 247 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: Charles worked his hands free and removed his blindfold. They 248 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: had left him in the middle of the river with 249 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: no idea where he was or an oar to paddle with. 250 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: All he could do was drift along with the current. 251 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: When a cabin came into view, he managed to paddle 252 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: with his hands to shore. The owners fed him and 253 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: gave him a real paddle to continue his way to Salem, Kentucky. 254 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: There he notified officials of the River Pirates, who still 255 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: held his brother John captive. They loaned him a horse 256 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: and sent him to a man named Colonel Love, who 257 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: might be able to help him find his brother. En 258 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: route to see him, though, the horse spooked, throwing him off. 259 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: Now with an injured ankle and no horse, Charles sat 260 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: down on the roadside wondering what to do next. And 261 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: that's when a woman happened by, who introduced herself as Cassandra. 262 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: She listened to his tale and offered to take him 263 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: to her family home. They continued their talks after they arrived, 264 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: and she even took to showing Charles a few of 265 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: the items that her father had recently acquired for her. 266 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: Among them was a flute. His flute. Cassandra and her 267 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: mother admitted that they had suspicions her father was connected 268 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: to River pirates, but they had never had proof. It 269 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: appeared that he acted more like a boss than taking 270 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: part in the River Pirates activities. Over the years that followed, 271 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: others became just as suspicious as Ford's own family. You see, 272 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: many years later, Ford became embroiled in lawsuits, including one 273 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: involving his Kentucky ferry operator Vincent Simpson, who knew a 274 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: little bit too much for comfort. So Ford convinced his 275 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: Illinois ferry operator Henry Schuss to goad Simpson into an argument, 276 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: presumably as an opportunity to kill the man in self defense. 277 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: Then one night, as Simpson arrived at Shus's door, someone 278 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: shot and killed him. Shuss and his two accomplices were 279 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: captured and indicted for murder, but one died in prison 280 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: and the other escaped, leaving just Schoss on his own. 281 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: At the trial, fifteen people testified for the prosecution and 282 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: none for the defense, and although Shoes pled not guilty, 283 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: the case was simple and he was sentenced to death 284 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: by hanging, which is when he confessed everything to the judge, 285 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: naming names and implicating certain wealthy and prominent citizens in 286 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: the process. The judge promptly received letters threatening his life 287 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: if he ever made Schusse's confession public, and the judge 288 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: caved in and never revealed the names or other facts, 289 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: stating that nothing good could ever come of it, And 290 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: with that shus was hanged on June nine, eighteen thirty four. 291 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: Because dead men, as they say, tell no tales. To 292 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: this day, the facts around Ford's true connection with the 293 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: Ford Fairy Gang remain a matter of debate. Some historians 294 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: and experts point to the lack of evidence. Others believe 295 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: the legend reflects the truth. But what about Dr Charles Webb? 296 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 1: Trust me, I didn't forget him. When we last saw him, 297 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: Cassandra Ford had taken him in. She shown him a flute, 298 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: which he quickly recognized as his own, and told her 299 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: as much well. As the story goes. After his short recovery, 300 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: Charles left the Ford house with his flute and his 301 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: life intact. And in case you were wondering, Charles also 302 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: located his brother John. It turns out he had also 303 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: been released. There was no word, however, about the whereabouts 304 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: of the captain and crew. Susan Ford, James's wife, died 305 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: in eighteen twenty. Charles kept in contact with Cassandra Ford, though, 306 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: and married her in eight se becoming Ford's son in law. 307 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: James Ford then later remarried two years after that to 308 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: a woman named Elizabeth Fraser, who gave birth to a son, 309 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: James Ford Jr. Tragedy finally did catch up with Dr 310 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: Charles Webb, though, in eighteen forty four, when he died 311 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: in an explosion aboard a steamboat. Sadly, young James Ford Jr. 312 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: Had also been on board. Ford's two other sons also died, 313 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: and while accounts of just how they met their ends 314 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: very it seems their demise did not occur while looting 315 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: or plundering. Ford's end, however, is a little more documented. 316 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: You see, a couple of days after Vincent Simpson's death, 317 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: a group of men gathered outside the Ferryman's home. Something 318 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: had to be done about his murder, they decided. After 319 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: a brief discussion, three men headed to Ford's house, intending 320 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: to invite him to an upcoming grand jury. They found 321 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: him near the Hurricane Creek campground. For it it seems, 322 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: had heard about their gathering at Simpson's house and was 323 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: already on his way to meet them. They all met 324 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: together at Simpson's house sometime after dark. Everyone took a 325 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: seat in the main room, and then slowly, one by one, 326 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: each of the men got up from their chairs, leaving 327 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: Forward alone. He's sat in the dark that way for 328 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 1: a while before one of them returned, holding a piece 329 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: of paper and a candle. The man handed Forward the 330 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: letter and promptly stood to one side. He held the 331 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: candle over Ford's head, illuminating the letters so he could 332 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: read it. Now it's hard to say exactly what that 333 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: letter contained, but the outcome was clear enough. A single 334 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: shot rang out, and a bullet pierced Forward's heart. The 335 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: men had put an end to the Ford's ferry gang 336 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: once and for all. Despite his previous status among the community, 337 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: few people actually attended Ford's funeral. Only Ford's family and 338 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: a couple of their slaves managed to show up. They say, 339 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: a large clap of thunder shook both the earth and 340 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: the sky, just as those slaves began to lower the 341 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: coffin into the grave, and the startled men dropped it. 342 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: Now wedged haphazardly into the earth, and without a way 343 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: to write it, everyone in attendance simply filled in the 344 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: hole with dirt, leaving the head of the casket pointing downward. 345 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: As they finished their task, someone rem arked that had 346 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 1: almost felt appropriate. James Ford, they said, went to hell 347 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: head first. I hope it wasn't too much of a 348 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 1: shock today to leave the sea behind and explore the 349 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: shallow waters of rivers and lakes. Clearly, the pirates never 350 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: seemed to mind. And as we've discovered the stories there 351 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: are justice thrilling, and thankfully we've tracked down one more 352 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: river tail to share with you. And if you stick 353 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: around through this brief sponsor break, my crewmate to Alie Steed, 354 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: will tell you all about it. Sadie Ferrell spent her 355 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: early years in New York's Fourth Ward, near the East River. 356 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 1: Gone were the days when George Washington's first presidential mansion 357 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: resided on Cherry Street. In Sadie's time, mansions sat in 358 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: disrepair and neglect. The walls had long moved out, poor 359 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: immigrants and criminals moved in. By eighteen fifty, the police 360 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: chief estimated approximately fifty gangs had taken up residency, and 361 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: around five hundred pirates had invested the waterfront. Like rats, 362 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: killers and thieves walked the streets at night, slipping into 363 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: shadows and gin mills to plot and drink their fill. 364 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: Sadie had lived in the wards since birth, and those 365 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: who called the night their own were the only life 366 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: she knew. Throughout the years, she became like them, making 367 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: her mark as a small time street criminal and hustler 368 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: with a twist. Most saw thin girl with a small frame. 369 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: Looks are deceiving, though for underneath Sadie possessed a mean 370 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: and particularly vicious spirit. Sadie had a sidekick, a brute 371 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 1: of a man she used as her muscle. And while 372 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: you might be thinking of all the ways these two 373 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: ran their scheme, you might be as surprised as her victims. 374 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: Sadie and her companion prayed on patrons leaving the local 375 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: dive bars. As soon as one staggered out, Sadie took 376 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: a running start and headbutted them right in the gut. 377 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 1: Before they could catch their breath, her companion jumped into 378 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 1: the fright and knocked them unconscious. The bear took everything 379 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: of value. Sometimes they even took the victim's clothing. The 380 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: unique method of smuggling earned her the nickname Sadie the Goat. 381 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: She wasn't the only ruffian working the East Side docks, 382 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: though Gallus Mag worked as a bouncer at the Hole 383 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: in the Wall pub in Manhattan on what was then 384 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: Water Street. The pump's proprietor was a six foot one 385 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: armed man with a fierce and unpleasant disposition. Mag's appearance 386 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 1: was equally unwelcoming. Her waistband housed a well used pistol, 387 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: and she kept a large club strapped to her waist. 388 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: As good as she might be with the pistol, Mag's 389 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: use of the club on unruly customers was legendary. If 390 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: the patron continued to be a problem, Mag wrestled them 391 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: into a headlock and then bit off one of their 392 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: ears before booting them out of the bar. Mag kept 393 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: the ars in a jar of alcohol at the back 394 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: of the bar. And though Mag kept rowdy pirates and 395 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,719 Speaker 1: seedie sailors in line, mugging's were permitted as long as 396 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: the establishment approved of them. Anything else, well, I would 397 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: have just been rude. Being that the Hole in the 398 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: Wall was the roughest bar on the roughest street. Naturally, 399 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: Sadie and her companions worked it. Some say Mag and 400 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: Sadie were mortal enemies because Mag was English and Sadie 401 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: was Irish. It might also have been that Sadie didn't 402 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 1: ask permission to mug her patrons. Whatever the cause, Sadie 403 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: used her signature headbut on Mag. Unfazed, Mag used her 404 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: club on Sadie. Some say Sadie was out cold. Others 405 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: say she kept fighting but ultimately ended up out on 406 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: the street, humiliated and missing an ear. She left after that, 407 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: working a new territory on the west side of the docks. 408 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: In the spring of eighteen sixty nine, she came upon 409 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: a local street gang attempting to board a sloop. The 410 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: Charlton gang spent their evenings looting and killing anyone who 411 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: dared to stray into their territory. This wouldn't be their 412 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: best night, however, and the crew aboard the sloop easily 413 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: sent them packing. Sadie approached the gang and offered them 414 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: a deal. If they'd be her muscle, she'd be their brains. 415 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: They agreed. Sadie led them on another attack a few 416 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: days later, this time making off with the sloop and 417 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: flying a pirate flag. Captain Sadie and her crew cruised 418 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: the North and Harlem Rivers and even sailed up to Poughkeepsie. 419 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: They attacked small shipping vessels. They raided homes, farmhouses, and 420 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 1: mansions alike. Even small villages weren't safe. They kidnapped the 421 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: wealthy for ransom, and they ended up with so much 422 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: plunder that they took to hiding it throughout the city. 423 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: Residents soon grew tired of being terrorized and banded together 424 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: to ambush the gang, killing several of her crew. Sadie 425 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: and the surviving members sailed the sloop back to the 426 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: West Side. The crew quickly disbanded, leaving Sadie no other 427 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: choice but to return Earn home. She opened a gin 428 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: mill with the money she plundered and reconciled with mag 429 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: who fished Sadie's ear out from the jar and returned it. 430 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: It said. Sadie proudly wore her severed ear in a 431 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: locket around her neck. There's not much evidence Sadie's story 432 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: is real, though she's mentioned in several books, most notably 433 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: Herbert Asbury's Night The Gangs of New York. It's not 434 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: clear where Osbury found his sources, but one thing is certain. 435 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: Sadie the Goat lives on in Pirate folklore. Pirates was 436 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: executive produced by Aaron Manky and narrated by Aaron Manky 437 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: and Alexandra Steide. 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