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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season one, seven, Episode

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Speaker 1: four of Daily Like Guys, the production of My Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive

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Speaker 1: into American share consciousness and say, officially, off the top

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Speaker 1: fund the Koch Brothers, fuck Fox News, fuck Rush Limbaugh,

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Speaker 1: fun buck sex, fuck Ben Shapiro, fuck Tucker Carlson. Funk

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Speaker 1: that cop who pushed Messiah Jerry Uh at Oracle after

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Speaker 1: the finals in two thousand nine. Team, you think we

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Speaker 1: get the full video of that ship? Could we do

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Speaker 1: entire ninety minute episode where we should like thousandth episode

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Speaker 1: or whatever? Yeah, or it'll be like what's Who's brusstar?

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Speaker 1: It was a Zach Brussard who does a thousand comedians list. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that thousands like ours. But it's like the right wing

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Speaker 1: funk a relist that we call it. I'm don It's Thursday, August.

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Speaker 1: Name is Jack O'Brien a k They hear me struggling,

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Speaker 1: they talking. I think I'm drunk because I'm over working.

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Speaker 1: Try and cash me is a dirty try and cash me.

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Speaker 1: He's a dirty Try and cash means and dirty. That

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Speaker 1: is courtesy a Johnny Davis, and I'm thrilled to be

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Speaker 1: joined as always buy my coast, Mr Miles Gray. This

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Speaker 1: goes out to my beloved Kirk Siggy. There's no think

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Speaker 1: compas co thank compassed to go brew. I like that

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Speaker 1: oather apartment like, but he's a fool and talking about

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Speaker 1: the doctor. There's like in the Prince version depends on

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Speaker 1: the cover. Sometimes you get that he's a fool. Line

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Speaker 1: really lived. But shout out to Christie. I'm a Gucci

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Speaker 1: main at Crispy mean b for that schenat O'Connor inspired

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Speaker 1: a k A what I was also thinking Prince, And

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Speaker 1: I was also thinking this other guy who does a

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Speaker 1: looping version that I saw video about ten years ago. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a great Prince song and also great performance, the

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Speaker 1: the emotion and Shade's voice really yeah, she she really

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Speaker 1: brings it. Yeah, shout out what a time the eighties

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Speaker 1: red driend, said O'Connor. Uh, Well, we are thrilled to

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Speaker 1: be joined in our third seat by the hilarious, the

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Speaker 1: talented Charlotte Lauristo. It is, it is, It's me. What's up? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm still still trucking along. How's the heat? I'm dying.

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Speaker 1: I've got a fan on me right now. I hope

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Speaker 1: you can't hear it. No, no, not at all. I

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Speaker 1: think we're all that is, do you have any heat

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Speaker 1: heat wave survival tactics used to like stick directly in

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Speaker 1: front of the air conditioner that I have one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, what if I was poor and didn't have

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Speaker 1: an air conditioner? Oh man, had I live in you

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Speaker 1: know the valley get is hot and like two summers ago,

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Speaker 1: my a c broke down, like when it was one

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Speaker 1: twelve where the players well, uh, and it was so

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Speaker 1: hot in my house. We had to get like this

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Speaker 1: like weird emergency air condition They had to just load

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Speaker 1: up with ice. But like the ambient temperature was so

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Speaker 1: hot outside of it, like the ice just turned the

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Speaker 1: water so quick. It was miserable over ice. It's like

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Speaker 1: it uses like it's like evaporates. It uses like this

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Speaker 1: water tank to like cool the air with evaporation, but

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Speaker 1: you add the ice to get it even colder. But

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Speaker 1: either way, I was stick to the old school, which

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Speaker 1: was the wet towel fully covering my covering my body.

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Speaker 1: I haven't had to do that yet. People seem to

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Speaker 1: think because I'm Caribbean, because I'm Haitian that I suggest

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Speaker 1: genetically be able to withstand the heat, and I'm absolutely miserable,

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Speaker 1: and they heat nothing to do, Like, I don't know

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Speaker 1: what that has to do. It's hot, it's physiologically I

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Speaker 1: should be okay in the heat because I sweat no

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Speaker 1: matter what. But I actually my sweat stresses me out

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Speaker 1: just because of social conditioning. So I end up getting

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Speaker 1: like sweatier and sweatier, and then I just get compounding sweatiness.

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Speaker 1: He had to meditate my way out of being stressed

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Speaker 1: about sweating. Yeah, except that I'm wet, and I am

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Speaker 1: uncomfortable that you're wet. Except that you're wet. Except I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's all. Please don't frit just except that you wet,

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Speaker 1: and thanks. That's a good I mean, that's a good

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Speaker 1: mantra to live. But I thought you're gonna say it's

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Speaker 1: so hot that you were experiencing retrograde sweating. I don't

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Speaker 1: have any idea what retrograde sweating is. But I had

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Speaker 1: to be like, you got to just be. You just

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Speaker 1: gotta accept. That's how the cookie crumbles. It's hot, I'm sweating.

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Speaker 1: My skin is just dry coughing. Um, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: it is. It is hot. In the Southwest right now

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Speaker 1: hot to yeah, yeah, uh. Shout out to the firefighters

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Speaker 1: the air is air qualities so bad and with COVID

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Speaker 1: have to stay indoors depending on your air quality. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: firefighter homies that I got out there on the strike

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Speaker 1: teams who are actually being paid rather than like the

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Speaker 1: chattel slavery like prison fireworks prison. Right did they did?

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Speaker 1: Death Valley hit the hottest temperature in the history of

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Speaker 1: the planet Earth, reliably recorded temperature reliably recorded a hundred

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Speaker 1: and twenty nine point nine read Yeah, allegedly we didn't.

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Speaker 1: It was about heat. Yeah, to make me feel better

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Speaker 1: about the heat that I'm in. Well, at least I'm

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Speaker 1: not in Death Valley, you know. Yeah, I might be

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Speaker 1: Then you just the nihilism grows and you're like, okay,

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Speaker 1: so now we're getting the hottest ever temperatures on the

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Speaker 1: surface of the and then my mom, still, are you

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Speaker 1: gonna have a baby? What are you going to have

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Speaker 1: a baby? Really? Right now? Right now is going to

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Speaker 1: be doctor Manhattan and just right all the wrong somehow,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Manhattan will be underwater, that will be

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Speaker 1: like a future X Men is going to be like

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Speaker 1: somebody who can just regulate their body temperature to exist

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Speaker 1: without air conditioning. That Oh god. I think they're trying

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Speaker 1: to make genetically modified babies right now, aren't they? Like,

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Speaker 1: aren't rich people? I'm totally I could totally be making this.

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Speaker 1: So I think you're about genetically modified babies, and I

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Speaker 1: feel like, why not make your baby be able to

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Speaker 1: withstand climate change? Brilliant designer babies are more like designer babies,

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Speaker 1: That's what they are. Yeah, just you know, I think

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're going who's really forward thinking

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Speaker 1: and they're like, I want this child to not fret

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Speaker 1: when they sweat and accept that they went. I think

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Speaker 1: right now all they're doing is like blue eyes right exactly.

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Speaker 1: I think they can avoid like certain maladies. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: male pattern baldness, you know, all the bad ones. My

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Speaker 1: parents fucked up. Why wasn't eye designer? Come on? God,

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Speaker 1: I know you know honestly, I was on this podcast

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Speaker 1: called bald Talk that's on our network on the Big

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Speaker 1: Money Players work, and it's like it hasn't launch. Oh ship,

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Speaker 1: never mind, never mind, no, no, you can talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, it's it's announced. But like on that

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Speaker 1: I was actually like, as it's like, you know, just

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Speaker 1: was thinking like, yeah, actually, the net the benefit has

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Speaker 1: you know, also like I wouldn't mind having like the

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Speaker 1: sharp hairline again just for just for the just for

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Speaker 1: the aesthetics. I don't need to be happy, but you

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Speaker 1: know it would be cool just for like just to

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Speaker 1: do one Instagram story like it's back ya. You just

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Speaker 1: gotta get that procedure that that one barber advertised where

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Speaker 1: suddenly has like an amazing head of hair after being

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Speaker 1: completely bald. Oh man, Well, yeah, get at me, But

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Speaker 1: I don't want to put fish food on my head,

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Speaker 1: you know, like I see a lot of people flaking

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Speaker 1: it on, you know, whatever, I'll do either way. The

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Speaker 1: they're more pressing issues than my male pattern baldness. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what if it's the fact that I can grow a beard?

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Speaker 1: What if you didn't develop this sense of confidence, if

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Speaker 1: be like, yeah, I don't know, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: be confident, you know, because you never had to like

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Speaker 1: build up your character. You'd be a pretty much exactly

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Speaker 1: thank you, blue line, full head of hair miles like

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Speaker 1: Eric Sermon's nephew or something. All right, let's talk about

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Speaker 1: real quickly what we're talking about today, and then we'll

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Speaker 1: get to know you a little bit better. Charlotte. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about We're just gonna check in real quick

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Speaker 1: with the uh d n C Virtual v d n C.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about Americans being not satisfied with the

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Speaker 1: treatment of black people. We're gonna talk about I G

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Speaker 1: slideshow activism, uh, and we'll talk about that uh Messiah

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Speaker 1: Jerry video that finally emerged of what actually happened at

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Speaker 1: actually glad to finally see this because this is what

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Speaker 1: a moment, exactly what I suspected happened. Salt salty s

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Speaker 1: you get to any of that, Charlotte, we like to

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Speaker 1: ask our guests, what is something from your search history

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Speaker 1: that is revealing about who you are. I just I've

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Speaker 1: been googling how to take care of plants because my

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Speaker 1: friend got me a money plant. She sent me a

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Speaker 1: kill it. So I've been like googling on to take

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Speaker 1: care of this specific plant. What money plant? Yeah, Oh

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Speaker 1: it brings money, like good luck. It's the one that

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Speaker 1: has like the trunks kind of looks like it's braided.

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Speaker 1: Yes it is. How do you know? Yes it is.

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Speaker 1: It's the braided branch and it's uh, how do you

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Speaker 1: once a week. I can't water it with tap water.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. And even if I get the spring water,

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Speaker 1: you don't want to put like ice cold water in

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Speaker 1: a lot that's going into it that I didn't realize

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Speaker 1: and it and I've learned why I've killed so many

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Speaker 1: plants in the past. So you are raising this plant,

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Speaker 1: hoping when this plant eventually becomes eligible for the draft

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Speaker 1: of a professional sport, it will remember these contributions and

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Speaker 1: return my favor. Financially buy me a house plant. I

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Speaker 1: feel pet owners are kind of smug. They're like, you know,

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Speaker 1: taking care of a living thing. But your dog tells

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Speaker 1: you when it's thirsty, tells you when it's hungry. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And also we'll drink from the toilet and be fine,

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Speaker 1: whereas you have to buy like perfectly pristian spring water

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Speaker 1: for your plant. That's that's the next level. Just like

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Speaker 1: how long will I be taking It's true? I mean

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Speaker 1: been this underlying sort of alliance between white supremacists and

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00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: the police, and a feeder system of you know, back

426
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: and forth white supremacists becoming police, police becoming white supremacists.

427
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: There's there was an open white supremacist gang in the

428
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Sheriff's department. Um. And I just I can

429
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 1: easily just like looking at the next ten years, whether

430
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 1: Trump wins or loses and claims the election was rigged

431
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 1: or uh loses convincingly, but everybody's mad about it. Like

432
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: I could really see this sort of you know, the

433
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: developing fascist wing of our country allying itself with this

434
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: sort of temper tantrum police force that feels like it's

435
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 1: losing power, and like that just needs to be something

436
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: that we're prepared for because America is not above that.

437
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: And that is how, you know, how things just completely

438
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: fall apart, and it seems like it's happening in real

439
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 1: time in front of us. Yeah, our president is stoking

440
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 1: that fire actively daily. Yeah. Yeah, and now that he's

441
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: stoked it, I just don't know how you put it

442
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 1: out without just completely abolishing the existing police force. Um.

443
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: Like and then and then just again, like you said,

444
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: you drag all this white supremacist ship out into the sun,

445
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: it's gonna start thrashing, same thing it's gonna and like

446
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: we're not even beginning to see what that thrashing looks

447
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: like with launchment, because like, right now they're just dealing

448
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 1: with a lot of people who are saying a lot

449
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: of things and municipalities. Some were acting quicker than others,

450
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: but it's not quite getting to that existential point. And

451
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 1: I can only we've only seen the kind of underhanded

452
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,479
Speaker 1: bullshit tactic like they put a tampon in my frap

453
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: or whatever the fake ship is, Like what that looks

454
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 1: like when they need that, they need more hardcore narratives

455
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: to justify their abuse and all that this this is

456
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: all being called us by Like the only reason we

457
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: have these conversations around these specific incidents is because we're

458
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: able to see specifically what is happening on video. Without that,

459
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 1: without that objective evidence, like none of this happened. So

460
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: it's just them being caught and then being like fuck

461
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: you for catching us. Um. White supremacy is kind of

462
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 1: like sucking like Narnia or some ship, like only the

463
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: people that seen it believe in it, and other people

464
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: were like come on, and I'm like, look look in

465
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: my fucking eyes. I have been to motherfucking Narnia. Bro,

466
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: I'm not lying. This ship is Please believe me. Look

467
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 1: at all these other people, millions of us have seen

468
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: it and just trust us. And look, even your friend

469
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: who you thought would never have been to Narnia, he

470
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: had also been to Narnia. Can you can you please

471
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: understand this is not some fake ship. It's like there's

472
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: levels where you almost some people, just if they haven't

473
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 1: experienced at firsthand, they're just so unwilling to just acknowledge

474
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 1: this sort of the dark depths that these institutions can

475
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 1: go to. I wrote this essay called the Absurd Reality

476
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: of Being Black in America, just this one essay after

477
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 1: I was devastated after George Floyd. But I'll share it

478
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: with you, guys, because that's what it's talking about. Oh, fantastic,

479
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 1: awesome online, so we can link off in the footnote.

480
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 1: Everybody's going to see it in the footnotes. All right,

481
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll come back and

482
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: talk to your underrated myth And we're back. Uh, and Charlotte,

483
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: let's talk about your underrated what's something you think is

484
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: underrated working for yourself? That I have not worked in

485
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: a writer's room since last since the end of last year,

486
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: and um, this has been the longest stretch of me

487
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: just working on my own projects. And then also the

488
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: bitter sweet blessing I call it of the pandemic, which

489
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: has slowed the world down to a crawl and which

490
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: has just like made my life so quiet and just

491
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: let me think for such a long time. Um, and

492
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: it's just made me really love this time. It sounds

493
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 1: really terrible side from what's going on in the world,

494
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: Like I've just had a lot of time to work

495
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: and think on my own projects and imagine what my

496
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: life might look like if I wasn't working for somebody

497
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: all the time. And it's been really cool, and I

498
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: want to do more, like more of that, So more

499
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: of that, Yeah, just kind of getting more in touch

500
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: sort of like with your own creative capability. And it's

501
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: like not beholden to the expectations of someone else. Was

502
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: like I need this product and I will use all

503
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: of your combined intellect to make it for me. Yeah,

504
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: for sure. It's it's all. I think. The other thing too,

505
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: where you're saying it's like it feels bad to say

506
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: that because I know, like like when you're empathetic, like

507
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: there's there is this like survivor's guilt of like ships

508
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,719
Speaker 1: and like i'd really it if knowing there's so much

509
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: suffering is so difficult, and then like sometimes I take it.

510
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: I don't give myself enough space to not be completely

511
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: consumed by it and not get completely dark and down

512
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: by So it's like, I think, to your point, it's

513
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: also like really good to have those moments where you

514
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: can just see, like within your own immediate life experience,

515
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: that you can carve out these moments to give yourself

516
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: some kind of you know, stability and solace. Because we

517
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: got to keep our batteries charged for a fucking long time,

518
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: so get those charges whenever you can. I learned a

519
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,959
Speaker 1: long time ago how to compartmentalize this kind of thing,

520
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: you know, like yes, because the world's always gonna do

521
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: some fucked up ship, Like I think there's always going

522
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: to be something. Nothing's going to be perfect, And I

523
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: like I was talking about acceptance earlier of like being

524
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: able to just accept your sweat, and this is part

525
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: of that, like just being able to accept that the

526
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: world is not perfect, people are not perfect. But I

527
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: can still have genuine moments of joy during the pandemic

528
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: and not feel guilty about my joy and like really

529
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: be in the moment and present and grateful for being alive,

530
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: not not having a situation where I'm struggling, where my

531
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: family is struggling, Like I feel like really really grateful, um,

532
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: because I know it could be so much worse, and

533
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: so I'm not going to like, I don't let what's

534
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: going on make me just like make me not be

535
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: able to fully enjoy my life, becoming like apathetic or

536
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: disaffected by everything else. Yeah, it's true that you yeah,

537
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: like we can hold many realities and I have those

538
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: moments of course, but you know I can only do

539
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: that for so long. Shout out to my therapist. Have

540
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:04,959
Speaker 1: to say, highly recommend like a very dumb person's understanding

541
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: of Buddhism and the concepts of Buddhism, because I've just

542
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: like started to think about like the very most basic

543
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: ideas of like, yeah, when you have stress, just experience

544
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: the stress and don't be like stressed out by the stress.

545
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: But like you know, they're that is part of the

546
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: human experience and like observing the stress. Uh. And I

547
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: got all that from this new book. I got Idiot's

548
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: Guide to Buddhism. Uh And uh No, I just like

549
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: picked it up in a couple of different places, but

550
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: It really is like just a very basic idea that

551
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,959
Speaker 1: I feel like in the Western world where so much

552
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: is about control and to experience emotions that are sort

553
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: of run counter to like, you know, satisfaction or just

554
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: like sort of like this flatlining stability, like yeah, you're

555
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: like you, You're like, I don't want to be stressed,

556
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: and now you're stressed because you don't want to be

557
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: stress and your point it's just be like, yo, you

558
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: know what these are tools like over millions of years,

559
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: this like physical corps I'm in like developed these weird

560
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: ways of figuring ship out through the brain and eyes

561
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: and ears and all that ship to stay alive. And

562
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: some of that ship is a little dated. So sometimes

563
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: the alarms go off when they don't need to. But

564
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: it's about saying, like, okay, so the alarm went off

565
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: on the back door, it's just windy. It's not the

566
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: right and there's something there's not somebody to break in.

567
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,719
Speaker 1: It's just windy and it doesn't close all the way.

568
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: So sometimes it goes off like that and just be

569
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: able to And I think the most important part is

570
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: telling yourself that you consent to feeling that way. That's

571
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: an important step in sort of dealing with those emotions

572
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: being like taking a breath and be like I'm like,

573
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: I consent to being stressed because I know that's not

574
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: solely what my existence is. That's just a sensation I'm feeling,

575
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: and I consent to that. That just started being able

576
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: to enjoy Sundays because Sundays used to be the I

577
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: would be the fact that my happy, relaxing time was

578
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: coming to an end. So it's like I'm stressed by

579
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: happiness because the happiness is leading and it's just like

580
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: that's that's something that's like when even joy uh gives

581
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: you anxiety, Like that's a problem. Wait until you can

582
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: experience the joy on Monday, like when it comes and

583
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: on Sunday here it's doing some stuff I don't want

584
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: to do. Have you guys ever watched Midnight Gospel? Yeah

585
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: it's old. Yeah, I feel like it came out a

586
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: while ago, but I literally just started watching it like

587
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: last night, and it's amazing so much it talks about

588
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: like very profound It's an animated show that talks about

589
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: these really profound issues. Yeah, it's Dunk and trustle uh

590
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: talking to he's like kind of a trippy, like what

591
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: what would a psychoanaut Like? He has like done a

592
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: lot of you know, thinking and experimenting with the psychedelic

593
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: things and just has really interesting thoughts and so it's

594
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: like a it's what, it's one of the rarest type

595
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: of shows and that like you kind of you can

596
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: totally enjoy it as a purely audio experience. You can

597
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 1: enjoy it purely as a visual experience, and then like

598
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 1: when they link together, it's pretty cool too. It's excellent.

599
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 1: I love it. What is a myth? What something people

600
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: think is true, you know, to be false. Here's something

601
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: I've been reading, which is that black women will save us. Um,

602
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: just a hilarious myth that I don't know why. I

603
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 1: don't like. I think they're trying to like complement black women.

604
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: But I'm just like, nah, girl, I'm I'm not saving

605
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: a damn thing but myself, I'm tired, I'm exhausted, and

606
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: I mean, what's wrong with you know, America saving itself? Yeah? Well,

607
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 1: I think it's so disingenuous because it completely leaves out

608
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: the part that black women and and then people who

609
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: are voting in the sense like ex group will save us.

610
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: It's because there's an existential threat, and that's motivated for

611
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: other people like, well, thank god it's not bad enough

612
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: for me. But for these black women, thank god they

613
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: turned out because without that ship, all these apathetic people

614
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: I know are going to just stay at home or

615
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: they have their head in the game. I can't help

616
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 1: but laugh at how bad it's got had to get

617
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: for people to start being like, you know what, I

618
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: think these crazy black women might be onto something. I

619
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: think they've been screaming their heads off for years and

620
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: they might be right. It wasn't just anger. Yeah, they're

621
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: not just an angry black woman. Turns out there's things

622
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: to be mad about. Uh. Did you guys watch Watchmen? Um?

623
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: Because a lot made anyway, it's really fun either way,

624
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: like comic books. Check it out. I mean, like this

625
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: kind of thing where people were links. I'm starting to

626
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: see nuances in a little bit, but baby steps, it

627
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 1: seems like at this place. All right, let's talk about

628
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: the d n C. Since we were talking around the

629
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: d n C a moment ago, let's talk about the

630
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: d n C. H The convention is happening, uh sort of,

631
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 1: It's happening online, uh, and happening in hearts and minds

632
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: and hearts and minds. It is so one kind of

633
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: weird feature of the conventions. I mean, we've been talking

634
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: about how there there was even a question of whether

635
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: AOC was going to get to speak at all at

636
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: the convention. Uh, and then the d n C gave

637
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: in and we're like, alright, we'll give her a ninety

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Speaker 1: second speech, uh, seconding the nomination of Bernie Sanders. But

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Speaker 1: which is a a thing that happens every year. If

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Speaker 1: somebody got any delegates in the primarya then somebody at

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Speaker 1: the at the convention nominates them and then it's like

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Speaker 1: a very procedural and like and now delegates, baby, smoochy, smoochy,

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Speaker 1: let's go, let's go do this thing in November. It's

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Speaker 1: like very just just optical, you know, it's just the protocol, right. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Interesting that the d n C was deciding whether or

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Speaker 1: not to even let her speak and gave her this position,

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Speaker 1: which is such a you know, like it doesn't seem

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Speaker 1: like it would give her an opportunity to like really

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Speaker 1: speak to the central like tenants of what is happening

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Speaker 1: with the party. She used it to do so by

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Speaker 1: like speaking about all of the ideals and you know,

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Speaker 1: energy that pushed the progressive movement behind the Bernie Sanders

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Speaker 1: campaign forward, and then only at the end really mentioned Sanders.

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Speaker 1: But the way it was greeted by the mainstream media,

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Speaker 1: which is sort of you know, it seems like it

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Speaker 1: is the propaganda arm of the mainstream Democratic Party in

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Speaker 1: a lot of cases. Uh, they were like, look at her,

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Speaker 1: she is snubbing Biden. Is essentially how they covered it,

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Speaker 1: which is completely there. There can't be anybody at NBC

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Speaker 1: News who actually thought that, right, I mean, who knows,

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Speaker 1: I mean unless like Tom Perez literally just like hit

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Speaker 1: somebody up over there, like you're right this over real

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Speaker 1: quick said that she's Snowbiden, all right, and then making

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Speaker 1: like make her look like she's you know, a threat

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Speaker 1: to the party and a rabble rouser. I mean again,

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Speaker 1: the way they recontextualize it's the tweet that NBC it's

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Speaker 1: all about this NBC tweet like it all this is

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Speaker 1: what kicked it all off. They had the video embedded

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Speaker 1: speeches of the d n C representative, Occasio Cortez did

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Speaker 1: not endorse Joe Biden. And then they put a quote

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Speaker 1: quote I hereby second the nomination of Senator Bernard Sanders

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Speaker 1: of Vermont for the President of the United States of America,

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Speaker 1: essentially making it seem like she went up there to

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Speaker 1: be like, no, y'all vote Bernie. And she has been

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Speaker 1: saying she will support Biden since it became clear that

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Speaker 1: he was the presum like there was there was never

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Speaker 1: any friction there a side from maybe not as being

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Speaker 1: as enthusiastic out the gate, but never was there a

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Speaker 1: question about backing up the ticket and that she would

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Speaker 1: support Biden. That was happening back in April or March,

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Speaker 1: I believe, so to do this and just to smear

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Speaker 1: her and re recontextualize this as a Biden snuff is

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00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: so it's so transparent that this is like another attempt

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Speaker 1: to try and take this like progressive element that is

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Speaker 1: that is growing within the Democratic Party and try and

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Speaker 1: paint it as this sort of like ungrateful Braddy group

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Speaker 1: where to try and flip the tables. Yeah, exactly the

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Speaker 1: way they see it. When really we're always up against

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Speaker 1: this thing where I think a lot of progressives are saying,

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Speaker 1: like we're calling extremism, the demand for like equality across

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Speaker 1: the board. That's what. Yeah, the contrast of this, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I've critics, I've been criticizing the Democratic Party for a

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Speaker 1: very long time. Um, And the contrast of this is

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Speaker 1: I don't remember this much pushed back within the Republican

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Speaker 1: Party when the Tea Party started to crop up, Like,

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Speaker 1: I didn't see this much in fighting. I didn't see

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Speaker 1: this much um attempt to subdue the growing tide. Um,

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Speaker 1: I don't remember seeing that. But like when you watch

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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party, I feel like they're they're just desperation

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Speaker 1: will hold onto the status quo. Their desperation too, to

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Speaker 1: paint themselves is more really superior than the Republican Party

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Speaker 1: when they're doing a lot of the things that are

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Speaker 1: you know, holding back change. Um, I just can't respect.

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Speaker 1: It's really hard to respect them. Like I watched, I've

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Speaker 1: been watching the d n C. I've been watching it.

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Speaker 1: I've been watching. I watched Michelle Obama's entire speech twice

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Speaker 1: because she truly is, like, I think, an outlier amongst

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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. She's they're so lucky to have her

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Speaker 1: as a spokesperson, but they don't deserve her at all. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think the difference too, is like, you know, the

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Speaker 1: Tea Party is AstroTurf. You know, that's just completely made up.

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Speaker 1: And that was at the end of the day, even

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Speaker 1: like them as an insurgent movement within a party, the

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Speaker 1: aims were still to maintain like the status quo of

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Speaker 1: like the business class and progressive politics runs completely a

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Speaker 1: foul of that. When you're demanding equality, that means less

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Speaker 1: profits for companies that have just been making money hand

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Speaker 1: over fist by fucking people over. And I mean even

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Speaker 1: like when you when we're thinking about all the the

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Speaker 1: ship that we need, like the temperatures are hitting the

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Speaker 1: record highs on the surface of the earth, and I mean,

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Speaker 1: like what are y'all saying as a party, Because if

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Speaker 1: this ship is that bad, why what is going on

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Speaker 1: with this? They're screaming from the rooftops. We're shills, we

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Speaker 1: have no more, We're morally bankrupt. It was like there

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Speaker 1: was that tweet that I forget who had it, where

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Speaker 1: it was like us give us equality and it says

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Speaker 1: GOP and it's just straight text no and then says

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Speaker 1: Democrats no. But it's like the like lgbt Q flag

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Speaker 1: like a part emoji and then hashtag Damn, there's such bullshitter.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's sometimes helpful to think about

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Speaker 1: the Republican Party is sort of an insurgency and that

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Speaker 1: they know they have the smaller numbers in a what

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Speaker 1: is ostensibly a democratic, uh system, So they have to cheat,

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Speaker 1: they have to do outside things. So they're just gonna

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Speaker 1: accept whatever help they can get if it's the Tea Party,

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Speaker 1: especially if it's you know, doing the bidding of like

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Speaker 1: if anything, it is even more focused on like the

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Speaker 1: big money interests that they're you know, supporting, and Democrats

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Speaker 1: are the system, like they're in favor of the system

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Speaker 1: as it exists. So the fact that they are supposed

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Speaker 1: to be the system and also the progressive side of

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Speaker 1: the system is puts it in a sort of inherently

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00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: contradictory position that I mean, if they're going to snipe

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Speaker 1: at the most exciting, most energetic portion of their base,

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00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: than like, I don't know, just because like it's like

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Speaker 1: our parents generation is running the party and they still

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Speaker 1: they're still making a seat at the kids table, like

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Speaker 1: they're like, oh no, not yet, they don't they don't

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00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: know if they can't even get a house, you know,

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Speaker 1: they can't even get their ship together to do that.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's no way, like we it will, They'll

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Speaker 1: have their time, but it's just not now. And I

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00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: think that sort of attitude is completely ignoring the fact that, like,

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Speaker 1: at this point, more people are finding themselves in the

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00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: same ideological space as these progressives more than just sort

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00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: of like the smile and let's talk about how bad

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00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: things are rather than doing something about the how bad

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Speaker 1: things are. Um. Alright, guys, let's take one more break

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Speaker 1: and we'll be right back. And we're back, and two

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Speaker 1: stories that we wanted to cover. One is a poll,

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Speaker 1: Uh that I mean shows progress, I guess in the

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Speaker 1: way that Americans view the plate of people of color

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Speaker 1: and black Americans in in the United States. Uh. But

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Speaker 1: the wording is just so weird. Jack, Come on, it's progress, baby,

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Speaker 1: because they poll found thirty of respondent said they are

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Speaker 1: satisfied with the treatment of black people in the country.

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Speaker 1: Satisfy was a romantic check. Um okay, But nonetheless they're

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Speaker 1: saying that is a nine point percentage drop and I'm

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Speaker 1: percentage point drop since the question was asked in and

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Speaker 1: it's the low like this has been the lowest it's

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Speaker 1: ever been. Since they began measuring this bizarre metric. Um

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Speaker 1: and then when it breaks down in like between black

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Speaker 1: and white responded, this was funny of participants, uh, and

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Speaker 1: of black participants reporting, uh, they reported satisfaction with the treatment.

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Speaker 1: Now with in that block of white Americans, they that

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Speaker 1: was a drop of ten percentage points that there were

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Speaker 1: like ten percent of white people went oh, man, actually,

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Speaker 1: you know what, Black respondents, It didn't change since the

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Speaker 1: last time. Just shows you again. It's like this Narni

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Speaker 1: is ship. We're like, yeah, bro, we've seen it, So

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Speaker 1: I guess we got away for another another two years

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Speaker 1: and more bodies to pile up to bring it down

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Speaker 1: another ten percentage points until we reached that tipping point

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Speaker 1: where enough people have believed in Narnia or have seen

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Speaker 1: it themselves to actually stacked on it. Yeah. It's so

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Speaker 1: all of that is just like a very like it

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Speaker 1: shows where the where the movement is, where like some

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00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: people are, like to our point at beginning to at

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Speaker 1: least not be so defensive when looking at their own

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00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: country and the policies with a discerning eye. Um. And

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Speaker 1: there's a really great piece in the New Republic that

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Speaker 1: takes a look at what they're calling I think is

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Speaker 1: an article is called the Lazy Liberalism of i G

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Speaker 1: Slide Shows, and it's talking about how quickly, hey, Instagram

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00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: has just gone back to quote unquote normal um since

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Speaker 1: the uprisings before, like you had a lot of people

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Speaker 1: sort of hesitating, like oh god, it just feels it's

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Speaker 1: really poor taste. I know it's my birthday, but like

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Speaker 1: I want to post something, but like it's just really

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Speaker 1: bad right now. But it is my birthday, and like,

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Speaker 1: you know, I am thirty five, and like I figured,

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Speaker 1: like it's just for me, and it's like not trying

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Speaker 1: to take any you know, like a lot of people

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Speaker 1: have felt bad in the air. Now we are back.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at your feet, it's pretty

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Speaker 1: much back to what you know, a pre George Floyd's

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Speaker 1: Murder world or pre uprising world. And the one difference

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Speaker 1: is that like we're seeing more of these i G

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Speaker 1: slide shows. I think a lot of people see like

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Speaker 1: the whether they post links to them in their stories

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Speaker 1: or in their main feed or whatever. The is really

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Speaker 1: nice stylized you know slide shows that are going about

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Speaker 1: like this is this is about prison abolition? Or like

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Speaker 1: why like why the bail system is so fucked uh.

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Speaker 1: And the thing is, like, what the writer of this

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Speaker 1: piece is pointing out is that while it it feels

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Speaker 1: like people are doing something by posting that, not every

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Speaker 1: person is going to process that information in the same

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Speaker 1: way that you think it's going to affect them. And

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Speaker 1: there's no there's absolutely no way to know that this

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Speaker 1: is actually being converted into real life action in physical space,

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Speaker 1: because ultimately that's the what's the point of this if

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Speaker 1: we're not actually changing the outcomes for people's lived experiences.

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Speaker 1: And again, it's like the criticism comes back at this

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Speaker 1: idea that like, it's just the easiest thing to do.

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Speaker 1: And there is a a quote from this other writer

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Speaker 1: who calls this the quote having Conversations industrial complex, which

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Speaker 1: is amazing in which what should be the first step

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Speaker 1: towards achieving justice is instead stretched out into an infinite

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Speaker 1: loop in which the perpetuation of this cycle becomes its

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Speaker 1: own end goal. And that truly, I think sums up

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Speaker 1: this like pseudo movement that is happening with certain people

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Speaker 1: on Instagram, and I know people who actually are become

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Speaker 1: much more civically engaged and politically engaged and are trying

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Speaker 1: to have reckonings in their own lives, and they're when

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Speaker 1: they're within their families, within their companies, And I also

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Speaker 1: suspect there are people who I see who are just

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Speaker 1: posting things to just for the appearances. Um and the

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00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: other thing about when you look at the evolutionary evolution

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Speaker 1: of Instagram, it's been a place for people to sort

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Speaker 1: of give this polished version of yourself depending on how

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Speaker 1: you engage with it. Other people are very candid and

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Speaker 1: very sincere about it, and but for many people it's

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00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 1: used as a way to sort of build this other

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Speaker 1: version of your life or self that you can share

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Speaker 1: with people. It's very controlled and it's definitely not like

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Speaker 1: Twitter where it's become up like there's no it's not

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Speaker 1: a place for hardcore political discourse or any course at all.

851
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: So there, you know, this article is sort of pointing

852
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: out to like the mentality of the Instagram user, plus

853
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: how the platforms used were like these slide shows are

854
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: now like mimic like a Glossier ad or of an

855
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: ad for blue Bottle coffee, like and then mixing that

856
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: with like these really complex intersectional issues and things like that.

857
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: It's slowly it's like just you can you can feel

858
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: the energy like dissipating. Yeah. Shout out to Alex B. Green,

859
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: who coined the having conversations industrial complex term. That's so

860
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: good and uh the writer of the piece in The

861
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: New Republic, Rachel Holly. Um yeah, I read the I

862
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: read the piece. It's really excellent and um I it

863
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: made me really think about so. A couple of weeks ago,

864
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: I deleted my Instagram, and I was shocked at how

865
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: hard of a decision it was to delete my Instagram.

866
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: And part of the reason for for you do my

867
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: Instagram was I didn't realize how uh civically unengaged I

868
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: was until I learned about a bunch of this stuff

869
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: on Instagram through scrolling and then actually went down to

870
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:13,919
Speaker 1: a protest, and then actually I didn't. I didn't gone

871
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: to a protest since Eric Garner and actually like seeing

872
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: like I think going down physically to a protest makes

873
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: Instagram like, I'm like taking pictures of the protest and

874
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: then I was about to post it on Instagram. It

875
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: just makes it feel so empty. It just makes the

876
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: whole like going through the motions of Instagram felt really empty.

877
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: In that moment, it felt really like you know, who

878
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: is this helping? Like, like, what am I doing on here?

879
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: Is this the best way to use my time? And

880
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: I really think part of being happier and over these

881
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: these last few weeks and months is that I've gotten

882
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: off of these platforms, like I've gotten off of the Instagram.

883
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: I've I've deleted my Facebook. Look, I'm still on Twitter

884
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: and YouTube. Um, but I definitely don't have the level

885
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 1: of I just like low grade depression that I felt

886
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:16,479
Speaker 1: like scrolling through Instagram was giving me. And I really

887
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: just think that this article is really brilliant because because

888
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: it does it does it felt at the time when

889
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: I was deleting my Instagram, like Instagram was not the meeting,

890
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: the moment you to use to use Michelle Obama's words, like,

891
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: it just didn't feel like something that I should be

892
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: using my It just felt like there are more important

893
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: things and this is not an important thing right now.

894
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: It is what it is it it comes to these

895
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: social media platforms in the doom scrolling, do you think

896
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 1: that somebody going to a protest and sharing their activity

897
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: at a protest, or you know, phone banking and sharing

898
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: their activity phone banking, Like to me, that puts pressure

899
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: on their friends, or at least like makes their friends

900
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: realized that it's like something that's doable. I guess you

901
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like, if you really want to

902
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 1: get your friends and do sh it, call them up

903
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: and say, hey, we need to contribute to this thing.

904
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: I hope you will join me in doing this because

905
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: I feel that we are on the same ideological plane,

906
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: we still look at humanity the same way. And whether

907
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: or not you know this yet, and I'm not trying

908
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: to criticize you for not arriving here yet, but I

909
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: do want to let you know, given like what we

910
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: what we give a shit about, we actually need to

911
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: go do this thing, because I think just posting a

912
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 1: picture is like being like, well, you know, you're you,

913
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: when you could just go right to the matter and

914
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 1: be like if you are, If you really want to

915
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: do stuff, it's easy, like you can just say, hey,

916
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 1: three of us, let's go phone with three of us,

917
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: let's collect ship and donate it and Jack. There's also

918
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: just this like inherently I don't even know how to

919
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 1: explain it, just like inherently not generous aspect of Instagram,

920
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: because so you're post seeing like you know, arrest the

921
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: cops that killed Briana Taylor and you get like a

922
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: thousand likes or whatever. Um or you're posting that you

923
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: um went to a protests and you're like, everybody needs

924
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 1: to go protests. So it's so it's just like this,

925
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: you're admonishing people. You're getting likes because you're morally superior

926
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: because you went to a protest. You're telling like and not.

927
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: This is not to say that everybody that posts these

928
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: things is talking like that, but it just feels like

929
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 1: it just is not the right platform for this moment.

930
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: It's just too self involved. It's two, there's too much

931
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: that we're getting that are you know, like validation that

932
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: I'm a good person. I don't, I don't know. It

933
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 1: just felt it just felt really fucked up in this

934
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: converting converting action into content that is self serving and

935
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: it still feeds into your persona, you know, whatever post

936
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: of persona that you're building, whatever world, you know, imaginary

937
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 1: world that you've built yourself in on Instagram. It just

938
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 1: feels really fucked up. It puts the emphasis also on

939
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: appearances as opposed to results, which seems to be like

940
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: something that is a key difference. And I'm sharing it.

941
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 1: I felt that I felt much better when I called

942
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: my friend. If I asked my friend directly, do you

943
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: need help? Is there something I can do? Is you know,

944
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: let's go down to a protest together. Like that has

945
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: felt much better than posting on Instagram me waiting on

946
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 1: hold to make public comment to the Board of Supervisors

947
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: in l A County and my heart being like, get

948
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 1: me on this soccer rip off like ship feels way

949
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:38,919
Speaker 1: better than some ship you can post on Instagram. Because

950
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: the other thing is you are speaking literally truth to

951
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: power in the moment. You have the ear of the

952
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: people who even if whether or not they take that information,

953
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 1: they have to hear your voice and hear that human

954
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,760
Speaker 1: beings feeled this way. And you can even leave email comments.

955
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: There are other I mean, I'm telling you it's not

956
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: that you're the listener right now has to end cash bail,

957
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: but you damn sure better find out who the people

958
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: in your city that are doing good would work and

959
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 1: support the funk out of them for starters, and that

960
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 1: doesn't take a whole lot. And I just want to

961
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 1: point to the last paragraph in this article. It's really

962
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: it sort of sums it all up about the Instagram

963
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: or beautifully written uh quote. The instagrammer lives in a

964
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: carefully constructed bubble of relentless and superficial positivity that would

965
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: pop under the strain of even an hour's worth of

966
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: Trump era news headlines. Instagram is a breezy oasis from

967
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 1: a somber world. It is earnest in a cynical culture.

968
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: It believes in the possibility of self actualization, perhaps through delusion.

969
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: It's a place where there need not be a moral

970
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: imperative to risk your life or livelihood marching in the streets,

971
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 1: because sharing well designed graphics from the comfort of your

972
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: own home is enough to bring about justice. The ultimate

973
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 1: and esthetically pleasing, color coordinated fantasy for the Trump era,

974
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: telling you when I read this sample, all the sample

975
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: uh instagram like live shows that she kind of sprinkles

976
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 1: throughout the article, are just like such a perfect First

977
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: of all, they all look like I had to double

978
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,479
Speaker 1: check that they weren't created by the same account because

979
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: they all look identical, like Canava ten plates. It's while

980
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: the Instagram became its own rather than being like film,

981
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: it became a specific genre. It's like a specific like autour.

982
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: It's like everybody makes movies that look like Wes Anderson movies.

983
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: It's like everybody is doing the same twee ship. That's

984
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: what I guess my question was trying. I don't do

985
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 1: any ship with Instagram or pay much attention to it,

986
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: but I'm like wondering if there's a version that transcends

987
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: that and it's like punctures that bubble, or if like

988
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 1: if somebody did that, like it Miles, if you were

989
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: sharing the fact like you're waiting online, your hearts beating

990
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 1: out of your chest and then you like share your

991
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: comment as you're leaving it, Like, uh, what about that

992
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: is Instagram allergic to? Because like for me, as somebody

993
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: who doesn't pay any attention to Instagram, so I'm not

994
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: the person speak on this, but like that would be like, oh,

995
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,760
Speaker 1: that's a thing that I can do, and seeing somebody

996
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: admire do it makes makes it real to me and

997
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: makes it more like tangible to me. I don't know,

998
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't feel a responsibility to inspire someone. Yeah, no,

999
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: not other Instagram in that sense. And I don't think

1000
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: I would post it because I'm not doing it to

1001
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: share on Instagram. I'm doing it because you know, I'm

1002
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: like through friends in the activist community like organizing and

1003
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: things like that, and like, hey, we need people on

1004
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: this call. We need people to like yeah, I'm there.

1005
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: Like you know, that's just a thing that it's not

1006
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: so much that I'm gonna put it up there to

1007
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: say like and this is what I did. And I

1008
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: know that can be inspiring, but I think there's plenty

1009
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: of examples of real activists whose work is being documented

1010
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: that you can draw inspiration from. I guess for me personally,

1011
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: it start to feel like I'm just doing doing it

1012
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,919
Speaker 1: for the graham because I'm not gonna have to ship.

1013
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: I don't. If you follow me on Instagram, sorry it's dry,

1014
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: but there isn't much there because I at a certain point,

1015
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: I'm like I got the ship that I can really

1016
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: contribute to. It's on this Mike trying to talk to

1017
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: people and through the podcast doing what I can, uh

1018
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: just I r l um and I think that's what

1019
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 1: we should strive for because at the end of the day, like,

1020
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: while it feels good to get likes to do the

1021
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: right thing, like, we also have to take away the

1022
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: incentive of like performative goodwill acts of goodwill for the

1023
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: Graham and ship like that, and really just everyone is

1024
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: acting from that place. But I don't know. I think

1025
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: I could be be overly idealistic. And plus I just

1026
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 1: don't like to post that much on social media, so

1027
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: I might be the worst person to ask. I just

1028
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: feel like all the ship that I see get passed

1029
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: around on Instagram or you know, brought to my attention

1030
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: that's getting passed around on Instagram, it's because, uh, people

1031
00:58:56,440 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: who have the right intentions aren't posting there, Like ideas

1032
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: for uh spreading change or bringing about results aren't really

1033
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: posting it there. You're getting the people who are like

1034
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: masks hide our children's faces, and then the then uh,

1035
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: you know, the Clintons can kidnap them more easily. Like

1036
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: ship like that seems to be that what is winning

1037
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: the day on Instagram. Um, and there just might not

1038
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 1: be that just might be a like bug of the system.

1039
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: It's actually like not a bug, you know, and it's

1040
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: it's it's one of the reasons why I got off

1041
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: of Instagram. I started reading this book called Surveillance Capitalism,

1042
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: and the book is all about how these uh it's

1043
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 1: mostly about Google and AdSense and how the the engineers

1044
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: at Google created this algorithm that basically um set the

1045
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 1: stage for how our data would be manipulated and collected

1046
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: to influence our behavior. Um. So you have things, so

1047
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: you have social media. The way that it is designed

1048
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: is designed to to alter our behavior. Um. So it's

1049
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: not even just about the way that we're acting on

1050
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: social media, like the way that we're acting, like we're

1051
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 1: acting in this we're behaving in this way as a

1052
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 1: response to a an algorithm that is dictating how we

1053
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: are acting. Because it's dictating, you know, because you know

1054
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 1: these scientists, these engineers, they have all kinds of like

1055
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: behavioral data and like you know, they understand human beings

1056
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: and how the human brain works and how the red

1057
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: flashing notification button gives you a hit a dopamine, Like

1058
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,919
Speaker 1: what do you do to get that high of being

1059
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: on social media? So I feel like it's like that's

1060
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 1: what I mean. I feel like it's coming out of

1061
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: left field a little bit, but I'm like talking about

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01:00:54,760 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 1: like straight up, like these people are their engineering. They're

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01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 1: engineering our behavior through these through these apps, and it's

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01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: just like and you feel this connection to this app

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01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 1: because your friends are there, and it's just like, it's

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01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 1: not even about like we are. I feel like some

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01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: a lot of us are genuinely trying to educate people

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01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 1: on these platforms, were genuinely trying to do things. But

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Speaker 1: it's not it's not us, it is it is how

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Speaker 1: these platforms are designed, which is why I feel like

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Speaker 1: it is not the right place to be in this moment.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be. I don't want to have

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Speaker 1: another place where I can be manipulated, where I can

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Speaker 1: be controlled, where my data can be harvested and used

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Speaker 1: against me or whatever. It is not necessarily used against me,

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01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: but used for by this corporation, and they sell it

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Speaker 1: to people who who use it like camerage, analytica and

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01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 1: things in the case of Facebook, Like that's what these

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Speaker 1: I feel like these uh, these social media apps are

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Speaker 1: are we talk about them in this way that they're

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Speaker 1: so that their harm list you know, they're harmful on

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01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 1: a level of emotion, but they're harmful on a like

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Speaker 1: societal level. So I'm just like, yeah, people's lives are lost,

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01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 1: the whole elections are decided by the data that a

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01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 1: company used, you know, maliciously. So it's just like it's

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01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 1: like some really I think It's like another thing about

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01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: this pandemic is that everybody should be thinking about what

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01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: we're doing, what we're watching, what we're consuming, how we're

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01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 1: being you know, how we're being talked to by the media.

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01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 1: Because even that you know, Occasio aoc thing, watching the

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01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: way that they contextualize her vote, it's just like all

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01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 1: these things. It's like, I'm so glad everybody's paying attention. Um,

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01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: but that that dark, desperate feeling you get when you're

1094
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: scrolling through Instagram and you wanna, you know, you question

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01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 1: the point of life. It's like, pay attention to that

1096
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 1: because I think it's it's it's an alarm bill that

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01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 1: our brains are telling us that, you know, this thing

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01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 1: is not always for our benefit. Yeah, it's like trying

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01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 1: to bring about trying trying to like actually create good,

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01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 1: actionable uh ideas on Instagram is like trying trying to

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01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: ze Way is doing a pop star character who is

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Speaker 1: overtly political, and she was describing it on one of

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01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 1: our sister podcasts, Last Cultures, as she was saying, like

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Speaker 1: the joke behind it is that no pop star, like

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01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: pop music is inherently like the opposite of political. So

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01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 1: it's like so dumb when it becomes like the the dumbest,

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01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 1: dumbed down version of politics that you get through. Uh,

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01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: it's like the the a feature of the system, like

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01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 1: you were saying, it's not a bug at the system,

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01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 1: it's a feature of the system. Like it's like trying

1111
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: to cure obesity by like putting h good good good

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01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 1: messages on the top of Magnolia, a cupcakes or whatever.

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01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 1: Timely reference from Dude you brought it back to Chronicles

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01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 1: of Narnia, Dude, you know of Narnia because it wasn't

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01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 1: that the ball like in a one point, they're like

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01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 1: Magnolia because it's popping or whatever show that's the That's

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01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 1: also the song that gave me the complex about having

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01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: lazy Sundays. You know, I felt bad. I felt like

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01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 1: I should be getting more done. Um bringing it all

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Speaker 1: back together. Uh Uh. The Messiah Jerry thing, you know

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01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: we referenced a couple of times earlier. You should just

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01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: check out the video because it's um even if you

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01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 1: didn't see what the the initial like, because the cameras

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01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 1: kind of got there late in the initial version to

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01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:47,439
Speaker 1: explain what is going on for people because some people,

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01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 1: if they're like, uh, what so the president of the

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01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 1: Toronto Raptors after they won the fucking championship in Oracle

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Speaker 1: in uh the Bay Area. It was an oak right. Uh.

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01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 1: He's walking along around the side of the court hugging

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01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 1: like you know, members of the Toronto Raptors team, and

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01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 1: he has his pass and he like flashes it as

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01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 1: he's trying to get to the bench where the team

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01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 1: that he is the president of uh is celebrating the championship,

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01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 1: and this cop just like sticks his arm out like

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01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: pushes him back, and then like when he gets in

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01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,919
Speaker 1: front of him, just does a two handed like shove

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01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 1: in his chest like push him back like six ft.

1138
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 1: Eery's like, what the funk was that? And then the

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Speaker 1: guy pushes him again, like really hard, like the most aggressively,

1140
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 1: like what you're gonna do about it, bitch, Like just

1141
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 1: macho bullshit move that you've ever seen. And then final

1142
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 1: no respect for a black man in action. That's the

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01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 1: most you can also see, Like I said, the guy.

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01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: The guy is just this like pink headed, like crew

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01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 1: cut wearing cop who's like chewing gum aggressively as Masside

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01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 1: Cherry's like making his way towards him just like angry

1147
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 1: as pink headed uh cop and uh. And then the

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01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 1: cameras like started like got there, you know, the actual

1149
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 1: like live TV cameras got there, and it just looked

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01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 1: like Messiergerry was like in a conflict with a cop.

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01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 1: As it was just like so weird. It was like,

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01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 1: wait a second, why is he not celebrating right now?

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01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 1: Instead he's like, you know, getting pushed by a cop

1154
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 1: and like pushing a cop back, because he does after

1155
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 1: two pushes pushes the guy that he's like what the

1156
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 1: funk man um? And it was just so now we

1157
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 1: have the full video and it's just worth looking at,

1158
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 1: like this guy who is out literally on top of

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01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 1: the world. So the reason it came out is because

1160
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 1: the cop was suing him and yes, for damages caused

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01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 1: to him and his career and his uh jaw and

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01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 1: he said his face was puffy afterwards. It is textbook

1163
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 1: textbook white supremacy and textbook tops and that like it's

1164
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 1: just petulant and you know, turning into a baby whose

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01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 1: whose feelings are hurt and fraudulent and yeah, and fraudulent exactly.

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01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 1: But fortunately that caused the NBA to be like, okay, well,

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01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 1: we have these tapes. By the way, if like, if

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01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 1: you think that there aren't tapes of an event like

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01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 1: still you should like trying trying. Like I had this

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Speaker 1: one thing completely off topic. Put somebody backed into my

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01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 1: car in a parking lot outside of Ralphs and it

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01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 1: was outside. Didn't seem like it would be on tape,

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01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: but like I went and found the like security footage

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01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 1: that was like from a nearby thing. Like people will

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01:07:56,360 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 1: have usually video footage. There's like high high defit being

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01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 1: taken a fucking everything. It's just that the cops usually

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01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 1: control it. But this is that rare. So if you

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01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 1: can find that person who apparently backed into you really

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01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 1: fucked up by doing it to a guy who's obsessed

1180
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 1: with the jfk assassination and somewhere it's true, man, I

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01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,719
Speaker 1: mean it was. It was attempted insurance fraud. She claimed

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01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 1: I ran into her, So it was Yeah, it was wild.

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01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 1: Uh and you know, you know, my mom was kind

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01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,640
Speaker 1: of going through it at the time. I told her

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01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 1: you probably wouldn't do nothing, but right, and we underestimated. Yeah,

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01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just an example of you know,

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01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 1: who knows why this guy was so furious, probably racism

1188
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 1: mixed with who knows what, but just another example of

1189
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:54,759
Speaker 1: you know, somebody. What happens when the one legal arbiter

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01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 1: of violence in a society is somebody who doesn't need

1191
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 1: to be trained at all and doesn't need a certain

1192
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 1: level of education, doesn't need to have anything other than

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01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: the willingness to do the job. Yeah, and suddenly just

1194
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 1: turns into an angry Warriors fan. That's packing exactly. Anyways,

1195
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 1: you can you can watch the video where wherever Charlotte

1196
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 1: and are served. Charlotte has been wonderful having you back

1197
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 1: on the daily Zeitgeist. People find you. You can find

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Speaker 1: me at Charlotte Larison. I'm still on the tweet. I

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01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 1: have a podcast that is on Stitcher called The Secret

1200
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 1: Lives of Black Women. I said Stitcher, but it's literally everywhere.

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01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 1: You can find it on iTunes and uh, Spotify. And

1202
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 1: I have an album called Karate that came out last year.

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01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: I'm all over the place. Oh and I and I

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01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 1: linked my essay that I mentioned earlier. Oh yeah, so

1205
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 1: you can catch that in the footnote. If you're wondering

1206
01:09:58,439 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 1: what it's like to be black in America. This is

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01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 1: is my response to that. Yeah, and you don't believe

1208
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 1: in Narnia, just do yourself a favor. Yeah, read it? Yeah,

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01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 1: read it. And is there a tweet or some other

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01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 1: work of social media you've been enjoying. Yeah, I follow

1211
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 1: Bree Newsome on Twitter. Brine Newsome was the black woman

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01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 1: who took down the Confederate flag at the South Carolina

1213
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 1: Capitol Building like years ago. I think it was like

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01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 1: early when Trump won maybe, um, but she tweeted this

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01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 1: I think yesterday. Um. There remains a deep level of

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01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:34,799
Speaker 1: denialism around both the magnitude of the crisis confronting this country,

1217
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 1: including racism, and the reality that the bipartisan political establishment

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01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 1: opposes the very policies we need to actually address these

1219
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 1: crisis and to relieve human suffering. UM. Brine Newsome is

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01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:49,560
Speaker 1: always speaking the truth. Like back when I felt like

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01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 1: even the news wouldn't call Um Trump a racist, like

1222
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 1: they wouldn't just outright say that he was a racist,

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01:10:56,600 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 1: Brine Newsome was was tweeting and talking about putting what

1224
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 1: was going on in an on honest, clear way for

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01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 1: people to understand the danger of what's going on. So

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01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 1: I really recommend following this lady. She's super sharp, and

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01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 1: she's not afraid to talk about what we really need

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01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 1: to do. How high the stakes are, the fact that

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01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 1: this is going to be a long term fight and

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01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 1: it's not going to be pretty, and it's not going

1231
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 1: to be nice most likely um or maybe hopefully it

1232
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 1: will be nicer than we anticipate. But we should be

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01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 1: preparing ourselves emotionally, um for for things to get dark,

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01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 1: you know, for things to be dark, you know, because

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01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 1: you know, just doing whatever we can do, you know,

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01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 1: with our friends, with our family, to like prepare whatever

1237
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:50,679
Speaker 1: we can prepare, you know, if it means like saving

1238
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 1: your money or whatever you need to do to grow food,

1239
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 1: growing some food, you know, taking care of a plant,

1240
01:11:56,520 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 1: like meditating, learning about the learning about Buddhism, like whatever

1241
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 1: it is you need to do to just understand that

1242
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 1: sometimes the world is bad. Um, but there are good people. Um.

1243
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 1: But we need to always be calling truth to power.

1244
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 1: And some people have seen Narnia before. You trust me,

1245
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 1: you don't want to go people who are like, how

1246
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 1: could things get worse? Yeah, that was my favorite part

1247
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 1: of Michelle Obama's speech. Cane will then, well, this is

1248
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 1: the thing, like black people have, it's been that bad

1249
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 1: I'm an immigrant. My family came here from Haiti. Like,

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01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 1: there are worse countries, There are worse you know, We're

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01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 1: really really privileged to be here. I'm very lucky, you know,

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01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 1: Like not everybody gets to be in a country where

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01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 1: you have where you can need every day, where your

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01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 1: family can get a job, where you can go to school. Like,

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01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 1: we have enormous privilege here and it is not free,

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01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 1: you know, where your country wasn't punished by Western banks

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01:12:54,880 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 1: for successfully liberating yourselves from slavery. Yeah, I mean that's

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01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 1: the dark ship with Haiti too, Like it's an amazing example.

1259
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 1: And then the darkest try about how white supremacy just

1260
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:08,560
Speaker 1: comes right the funk back to be like okay, so

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01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 1: you got rid of that, but we'll funk you up

1262
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 1: in different Yeah. We're we're really fighting against like really

1263
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 1: huge incorporated powers that are like deeply rooted in America

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01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 1: from the beginning of America, you know. So it's just

1265
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 1: like we gotta prepare ourselves. We gotta like be there

1266
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 1: for each other and know that you know, these things

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01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 1: are not going to go down easily. Yeah. I think

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01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 1: the good way to put it is, you know, prepare

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01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 1: yourselves and don't do it in a way like where

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Speaker 1: you have to go help like everything is it's going

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Speaker 1: to be so negative. Prepare yourself to help. That's what

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Speaker 1: you should That's how you should look at it. Prepare

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Speaker 1: yourself to help somebody and need don't don't be like

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Speaker 1: we're gonna fucking crash. Yeah, and just do that the

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Speaker 1: whole way. There no no, no start saying like I'm

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Speaker 1: going to need to open my heart larger than I

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Speaker 1: may have ever had too. I may be asking others

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Speaker 1: to do the same because it's on some level we

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Speaker 1: are there are people we can help, but we may

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Speaker 1: need help as well. But we also all have to

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Speaker 1: be prepared to help each other. I think I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about it on a stoic like a philosophical stoice. From

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Speaker 1: stoicism point of view. It's just like it's just like,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's not about being super despairing. It's about

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Speaker 1: like being emotionally prepared for the fact that you know,

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Speaker 1: America is not gonna always be rosy, and it's things

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Speaker 1: are not always going to be perfect. Things are going

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Speaker 1: they might be really hard for a while, and we

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Speaker 1: might have to like really step up and help each

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Speaker 1: other and physically be there for each other and call

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Speaker 1: out and and see what you can do for your friends,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like I'm talking about it

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01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:45,799
Speaker 1: in the sense of like we don't have to crumble

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Speaker 1: when things crumble, you know, we can be prepared mentally

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Speaker 1: and emotionally, UM so that we can survive and keep

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Speaker 1: and keep helping and keep pushing and moving forward. Because

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Speaker 1: that's that's truly all we can do. We we really

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Speaker 1: don't have a choice but to be optimistic, but to

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Speaker 1: um but to use what we have and our greatest

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01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 1: what we have more than anything is each other, is

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01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 1: our network of people that you know, that feel that

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Speaker 1: we deserve much better than we have. You know, well,

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01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 1: said Miles. Where can people find you and follow you? Oh, Twitter,

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01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 1: Instagram at Miles of Gray and also on my other

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Speaker 1: podcast for twenty Day Fiance and also if you're on Twitch,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be doing some ship live on Twitch this

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Speaker 1: Friday at six pm Pacific time. Sophie and I will

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Speaker 1: probably taking some questions and talking about the news Stace

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Speaker 1: and Dark spinoff. And we got our Twitch stream sorted out,

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Speaker 1: not like last time, I got the O B S

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Speaker 1: popping now, So go to twitch dot tv Slash four

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Speaker 1: twenty Day Fiance shout out to super Produci Suproducial Daniel

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Speaker 1: good Mental for hooking that up. Okay, some tweets that

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Speaker 1: I'm liking. One uh is from at rick AA. It's

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Speaker 1: r I c K A E y A. She tweets,

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Speaker 1: please don't tell people we talked. That's defamation of character.

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Speaker 1: I love that one. Another one is from UH it's

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Speaker 1: at at Cloud and I uh. And this is a

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Speaker 1: very l a tweet. But she tweeted a photo of

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Speaker 1: the Medici apartments in downtown Los Angeles and if you're

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Speaker 1: from l A, this is the shadiest fucking building in downtown.

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Speaker 1: And she's just tweets these the drug dealer and scammera

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Speaker 1: apartments L O L. And I was like, it's so true.

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Speaker 1: It's you can see it off the freeway when you're

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Speaker 1: driving through downtown, and it's always like it. That's where

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Speaker 1: you get into some ship. Okay. And then finally Ian

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Speaker 1: carmel Um he tweeted, Okay, so Laura Loomer, the conspiracy theorist, islamophobe, whites, whatever,

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Speaker 1: every terrible thing that right wing people are on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: She won her Republican primary to run for congress um

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Speaker 1: and she was really feeling herself, as was President Trump.

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Speaker 1: And then Ian Carmel tweeted, uh, I think I'm big

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Speaker 1: meach Ah, that's a good one. That's that is the

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Speaker 1: ben diagram of if you may back music and politics.

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Speaker 1: Did you do the driving Me Maddie one about Taco Bell? No? Alright?

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Speaker 1: Uh at driving me? Maddie tweeted, my boyfriend I go

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Speaker 1: to Taco Bell. What do you want to ask him?

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Speaker 1: A baja blast? No, he gets down on one knee.

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Speaker 1: I want something that will baha last, Will you marry me?

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Speaker 1: They ring the taco bell. We live happily ever after

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Speaker 1: moss Uh. And then hype at the hype tweet why

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Speaker 1: did the chicken across the road? Why did the pigeon

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Speaker 1: ship on my car? The point is that the motivations

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Speaker 1: of birds are unknowable. Uh. You can find me on

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Speaker 1: Twitter Jack under Squirrel Brian. You can find us on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at daily Zeitgeis. Were at the Daily Zy Guys

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Speaker 1: on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and website,

1347
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Speaker 1: a leezy guys dot com ory post our episodes and

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Speaker 1: our foot notes. We link off to the information that

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Speaker 1: we talked about in today's episode, as well as the

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Speaker 1: song we Ride out on Miles? What are we riding

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Speaker 1: out on today? Oh? I mean, just given the positive

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Speaker 1: feelings coming out of everybody, this band name I think

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Speaker 1: is really going to give some relief. It's called the

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Speaker 1: Comment is Coming. Uh This this track is called Birth

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Speaker 1: of Creation and it's really dope. I'm not sure like

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Speaker 1: what this band is about, but it's seeing It sounds

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Speaker 1: like a mixture of like a like a beat electronic producer,

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Speaker 1: a drummer, and somebody who definitely plays read it instruments

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Speaker 1: because I feel like I'm hearing a post soon or

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Speaker 1: bass clarinet or Barry Sacks. Doesn't quite sound like Verry Sacks.

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Speaker 1: But it's this real great mixture of real instruments and

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Speaker 1: a little bit of electronic and hip hop and it's

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Speaker 1: just got like, I don't know, is that where you're

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Speaker 1: playing when I came on the Yeah, yeah yeah, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is the Comment is Coming with their track Birth

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Speaker 1: of Creation. Yeah, I'm being am I right, that's the

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Speaker 1: next thing I expected. Yeah, babe, yeah, baby, I think

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Speaker 1: your big meach. I'm going to be a Balazza raptor

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Speaker 1: watching the shut up, he said, shut up to you

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Speaker 1: tell myself. Yeah. The Daily Guy is a production by

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Speaker 1: for this morning. We will will be back this afternoon

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Speaker 1: to tell you what's trending and we'll talk to you

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