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Speaker 1: Whaylon Jennings are insane. He gave up a seat on

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Speaker 1: Johnny Cash. He did blow during halftime of an NFL

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Speaker 1: mail Waylon Jennings was a badass and a taker of

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Speaker 1: both rock and roll and outlaw country. And he made,

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Speaker 1: of course great music. Unlike that loop I played for

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Speaker 1: That was a preset loop from my mellotron called John

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Speaker 1: Hughes Fever Dream MK Two. I played you that loop

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Speaker 1: because I can't afford the rights to best of My

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Speaker 1: Love by the Emotions, And why would I play you

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Speaker 1: that specific slice of whoa Woa Cheese? Could I afford it?

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Speaker 1: Because that was the number one song in America on

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Speaker 1: August twenty fourth, nineteen seventy seven, and that was the

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Speaker 1: Jennings's arrest. On this episode, a plane crash, pill stashes,

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Speaker 1: coked up open raiders, loaded guns, badasses, and Waylon Jennings.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jake Brennan, and this this disgrace Sland.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you have a great idea, maybe you've

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Speaker 1: you've got this idea for a great recipe for Thanksgiving

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Speaker 2: Whatever doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: What matters is that you get this idea in your head,

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Speaker 2: And we live at a time where you can make.

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Speaker 1: Sure with a few keystrokes, so you google it, and

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Speaker 2: After all, tens, hundreds.

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Speaker 1: Maybe thousands of people have already thought of that same

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Speaker 1: That said, I am confident that Elvis Presley wasn't the

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Speaker 1: sharing that brilliant idea long before the Tupelo Kid told

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Speaker 1: there in West Texas Waylon Jennings didn't do what he

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Speaker 1: old Whalen Jennings meanly married worked as a DJ country

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Speaker 1: The job and a story He and another of Buddy's friend,

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Speaker 1: January nineteen fifty nine, Grand Central Station Waylon Jennings and

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Speaker 2: He was addicted. Buddy Hawley was a drug. That drug.

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Speaker 1: It powered Whalen and the others through a grueling tour,

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Speaker 1: He offered the two extra seats to his band, to

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Speaker 1: Right before the plane took off, he found Whalen and

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Speaker 1: Then Buddy said, again with the shit talking, I hope

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Speaker 3: Three young singers who soared to the heights of show

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Speaker 3: iows no flurring. The singers were identify this Richie falland seventeen,

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Speaker 1: New Buddy Hawley's death in nineteen fifty nine at just

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Speaker 1: twenty two years old, came as an incredible shock, not

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Speaker 1: least to his good buddy Waylon Jennings. Whalen was racked

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Speaker 1: The show must go on, and go on it did,

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Speaker 1: with aggrieving Waylon Jennings made to perform as his dead

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Speaker 1: Hawley had just died.

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Speaker 1: Made to perform posing as his dead friend Buddy Holly

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Speaker 1: crackling out of the car's radio Waylon Jennings had been

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Speaker 1: awake for days, clutching a fistful of pills while three

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Speaker 1: Right now, Whalen had to listen to his longtime drummer

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Speaker 1: Richie Albright speak his mind, Whalen where she said, you're

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Speaker 1: for music too Waylon Jennings was also a man who

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Speaker 1: Buddy Hawley was the gateway drug, and it didn't take

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Speaker 1: The ol Russian smiled, well, that my friend was a

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Speaker 1: You know, Whalan, he's crazy. He'll do anything. Hell, maybe

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Speaker 1: to present Whylon Jennings for real, the Nashville outlier, a

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Speaker 2: We'll be right back after this word word word.

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Speaker 1: As his son Terry wrote in his memoir, Whalen Jennings

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Speaker 1: had the remedy as did Whalen's buddy Deacon Proudfoot, Hell's Angel,

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Speaker 1: Whalen's pals Willie Nelson and Tompall Glazer, and Whalen's fourth

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Speaker 1: of albums, How Are You Ready for the Country Whalan

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Speaker 1: His success was hard fought, it was sweet, but when

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Speaker 1: a week since the King himself, Elvis Presley, took his

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Speaker 1: to and hear each other. Other consoles only allowed for

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Speaker 1: one way communication. So Richie Albright, without the DEA agents knowing,

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Speaker 1: was allowing Whalen through the headphones he was wearing in

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Speaker 1: the studio to hear this entire conversation with the FEDS

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Speaker 1: as it unfolded. So Richie says, can I help you boys?

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Speaker 2: This is a closed session. Agent number one goes, what

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Speaker 2: happened to that package that was just delivered? Richie goes,

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Speaker 2: do y'all have a warrant?

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Speaker 1: Agent Number one says, we have a warrant for when

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Speaker 1: Jennings's arrest. Richie listen, boys, I'd love to help you,

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Speaker 1: but we're right in the middle of one last vocal take.

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Speaker 2: This place is like two hundred bucks an hour. Who

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Speaker 2: just finished the take? And then Whalen is all yours.

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Speaker 1: Agent number two looked at Agent number one and gave

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Speaker 1: a kurt nod of approval. Richie ran the tape from

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Speaker 1: the top and Whalen began to sing again. Halfway through

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Speaker 1: the chorus, Richie stopped the tape and pressed on the

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Speaker 1: Harrison talked back button again. Whalen, I'm sorry, hass but

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Speaker 1: there's something wrong with your microphone. Let me come in

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Speaker 1: there real quick and swap it out for another. The

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Speaker 1: agents waited impatiently. Richie slipped into the studio room, replaced

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Speaker 1: the mic, and then, very carefully, without anyone noticing, removed

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Speaker 1: the bags of cocaine from the box at Whalen's feet

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Speaker 1: and slid them down the front of his jeans. Minutes later,

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Speaker 1: he was flushing the contents down the toilet in the

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Speaker 1: studio bathroom while the DEA agents grilled Whalen.

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Speaker 2: Where I come from?

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Speaker 1: Whalen said, possession means got it, and you boys ain't it.

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Speaker 1: The DEA didn't have to have anything. They knew Whalen

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Speaker 1: was dirty. They arrested him anyway, charging him with possession

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Speaker 1: and conspiracy, and the case dragged on for months, months

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Speaker 1: in which Whalan's paranoia ran as high as his continuing

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Speaker 1: drug and take. He checked every phone for bugs. He

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Speaker 1: hired former FBI agents to sweep his house, but the

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Speaker 1: case against him only made his reputation stronger. He was

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Speaker 1: a modern day Robin Hood or a Billy the Kid.

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Speaker 1: He used that rep to his advantage with his next single,

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Speaker 1: Don't you Think the Outlaw Bits.

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Speaker 2: Done get out of hand?

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00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: The song essentially confessed to the crime he was currently fighting,

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Speaker 1: and it peaked at number five on the country chart.

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Speaker 1: That song the attention, None of it got Whyalon Jennings

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Speaker 1: what he really needed. Neither did his new role on

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Speaker 1: the Dukes of Hazard as the balladeer singer of the

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Speaker 1: popular TV show's theme song. Whalen needed money, the kind

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Speaker 1: of money that could support all those ex wives. The

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Speaker 1: attack man a bloated payroll, and that wasn't all. When

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00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: the government finally dropped the cocaine charges, Whalon it had

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Speaker 1: something like one hundred thousand dollars in legal fees his

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Speaker 1: bank account balance was at negative eight hundred and sixty grand.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even sure how that's possible. The bank froze everything.

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Speaker 1: By the early nineteen eighties. The only thing higher than

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Speaker 1: Waylon Jennings was his impossibly tall mountain of debt. No

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Speaker 1: matter how dire his financial situation, Waylon Jennings surrounded himself

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Speaker 1: with people who believed in him, just like Buddy Hawley

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Speaker 1: had believed in him all those years before. These days

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Speaker 1: it was the Hell's Angels motorcycle Club. The bikers saw

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Speaker 1: it in Whalon Jennings, a kindred spirit. They were drawn

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Speaker 1: to him, like so many others, who, let's be honest,

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Speaker 1: were part of the larger problem, at least when it

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Speaker 1: came to Whalen's bottom line. But the Angels were tough

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Speaker 1: guys reinforcing Whalen's air of toughness, like Deacon Proudfoot and

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Speaker 1: Boomer Baker.

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Speaker 2: Boomer had a mouthful of gold.

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Speaker 1: Teeth, and he walked with a cane that had a

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Speaker 1: gold skull on top. He was there to protect and serve,

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Speaker 1: like on the night he stood watch outside Whalen's hotel room,

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Speaker 1: armed to the teeth, guns, knives, a grenade, even on

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Speaker 1: account of the rumor going around that a rival motorcycle club,

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Speaker 1: in their quest to become bigger and more powerful than

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Speaker 1: the Angels, had put a hit out on Whealan or

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Speaker 1: a member of his family, a family that Boomer took

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Speaker 1: care of, not least of which was Whalen's youngest son, Shooter,

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Speaker 1: now a great musician and producer in his own right,

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Speaker 1: but back in the day, a little toddler being raised

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Speaker 1: by outlaws, outlaws like Boomer Baker, outlaws like his father,

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Speaker 1: a father who is now watching as a son. Shooter,

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Speaker 1: just three years old, found one of Whalen's coke straws

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Speaker 1: and stuck it up his nose, doing like his daddy did.

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Speaker 1: That shook Whalen. Being a badass was one thing, being

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Speaker 1: a bad role model with something else entirely.

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Speaker 2: Whalen decided to rent a.

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Speaker 1: House in Arizona, not in Phoenix, where he first made

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Speaker 1: his bones as a performer, but way out in the

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Speaker 1: desert where he was at the mercy of the elements.

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Speaker 1: Zero distractions, no band members, no bikers, just Whalen and

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Speaker 1: his wife Jesse. He had to clean up everything, his

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Speaker 1: finances and also his habit. March nineteen eighty four, Whalen

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00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: climbed into his tour bus and did as much cocaine

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Speaker 1: as he could handle, one last hurrah. Then he exited

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Speaker 1: the bus and walked into his rented house, leaving about

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Speaker 1: twenty grand worth of cocaine behind. Call it cold turkey

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00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: with a safety net, a little insurance in case what

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Speaker 1: he was about to do proved too difficult.

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Speaker 2: And it was difficult.

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Speaker 1: As soon as that final I wore off, his bones

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Speaker 1: began to ache, his entire body shook violently. He was sick,

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Speaker 1: He couldn't sleep. He knew he could end this awful

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Speaker 1: feeling just by going back to the bus where piles

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Speaker 1: of cocaine were waiting, but he didn't. He'd made up

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Speaker 1: his mind Whyalon Jennings didn't do what he didn't want

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Speaker 1: to do, Not picking cotton, not going to school, not

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Speaker 1: conforming to the Nashville machine, and not cocaine, not anymore.

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Speaker 1: A month later, Whalan stepped foot out of that rented home.

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Speaker 2: A new man. He told Jesse to get rid of

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Speaker 2: the drugs.

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Speaker 1: She dumped all twenty thousand dollars worth down the drain,

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Speaker 1: yelling Hallelujah as she did it, Ecstatic to her husband.

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Speaker 1: Whylon Jennings was a survivor, a trailblazer, a total badass,

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Speaker 1: and he was no longer a disgrace. I'm Jake Brennan,

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Speaker 1: and this this Disgraceland.

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Speaker 4: All right, thank you for hanging out with me and

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00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 4: the one and only Waylan Jennings.

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Speaker 2: Apple Podcast listeners.

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Speaker 1: If you have not already, please turn on auto downloads

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Speaker 1: so you don't.

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Speaker 2: Miss any of our episodes.

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Speaker 4: Listen. Waylon Jennings complete in total lunatic, known as one

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Speaker 4: of the outlaw country singers. But my question of the

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Speaker 4: week for you, guys, is was Wayland Jennings the most

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Speaker 4: punk rock of the country singers?

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00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 2: If not, who was?

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Speaker 4: Hit me up a lot of candidates six one seven

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Speaker 4: nine oh six six six three eight. I want your answers.

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Speaker 4: also DM me at Disgrace lamp Pod. Email me Disgrace

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Speaker 4: Lampod at gmail dot com. We'll play some of your

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Speaker 4: answers on the upcoming after party episodes. All right, guys,

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Speaker 4: I gotta take off, got some credits coming.

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Speaker 2: Up right now.

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