WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Zay Day? 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:05.800 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:07.440 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:17.120 Cowboys Let's go. Are you ready for a Break? 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:17.680 Yes? 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:19.520 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:20.320 Absolutely? 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:22.439 Ready for a break? 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:22.959 Yeah? 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:24.680 And so much for that. 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:29.120 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:35.120 Were on with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Patrick Walker, 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:37.040 and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:42.320 It is Wednesday, May eighth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty, 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:45.519 episode number six. Welcome to the latest edition of The 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:47.080 Break presented by LG. 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:47.480 Today. 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:49.360 We got a lot of different topics we're going to 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:51.640 get into. We'll start with a little bit of news 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:54.800 coming out of the Star on a potential wide receiver 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:57.480 to add to the mix. We'll also talk a little 0:00:57.480 --> 0:00:59.960 bit about Zeke Elliott and his addition to the team 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:02.120 and what he can bring and what's still left to 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:04.640 be done at that running back position, and really from 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:06.360 the running back position, I want to talk about a 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:10.000 little bigger conversation on just your thoughts on the running 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:12.520 back position, to devalue in the running back position and 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:15.959 how you think maybe this plays into that philosophy. We 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:17.840 hopefully at some point in the show we'll also get 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:19.520 into a little bit of rookie mining camp talk that 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:22.520 starts up later this week, and we'll talk about some 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:24.959 big picture looks at some of the things that you 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:27.680 guys will be looking for as the rookies arrive and 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:31.440 make their debuts here in Frisco. 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:31.880 Texas at the Star. 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:34.520 All right, So let's start first with Zay Jones. Cowboys 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:36.800 bring him in for discussion. 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:37.560 Try. 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:39.400 I don't know what it's going to be, but he's 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:41.120 going to be in the building if he's not already 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:44.360 in the building. And my question for you guys, as 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:47.880 I was looking at some of his numbers, he's a 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:52.200 guy that has had some success, a small amount of success. 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:54.920 You're look at this number from twenty twenty three, not great, 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:56.960 nine games, you had thirty four catches for three hundred 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:59.640 and twenty one yards and two touchdowns. But twenty twenty two, 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:02.440 which was his best season, he played sixteen games, he 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:05.280 had eighty two catches, eight hundred and twenty three yards 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:08.320 and five touchdowns. Pretty good if you're looking at him 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:11.280 potentially as a third wide receiver, talk to me about 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:13.160 what you think about this potential move and how it 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:14.000 could affect the Cowboys. 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:17.079 So sorry, Patrick, First of all, go ahead and get 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:20.160 Robert's son in here. Okay, So for those that don't know, 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:21.280 this is actually Jay. 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:24.080 Jones giving alright. No, no, not quite, not exactly. 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:25.120 We'll get to that conversation. 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:28.080 It sounds like it's coming, it's not quite. 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:30.520 I mean, if Florino is in the building, so I 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:34.000 mean the competition has already been added, so add more. 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:37.079 All right, But no, for those that don't know, that's 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:39.400 just a reference to the fact that Jay Jones is 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:42.440 Robert Jones's son, which Cowboys former linebacker, former first round 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:44.600 pick in ninety two, went on to win not one, 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:46.720 not two, but three Super Bowls with the Dallas Cowboys. 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:48.919 So a little bit of a legacy here with the 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:52.079 Joneses and the Joneses and the Jones It's nice. 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:53.800 Okay, that's an accidental bar. I'll take that. 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:56.520 But what I look for in Jay Jones is to 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:59.880 come in and compete for that seat vacated by Michael Gallup. 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:02.240 We were talking about it before we went hot. He's 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:06.680 not the fastest guy, but catch radius is ridiculous, something 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:09.480 that Michael Gallup kind of became famous for, making those 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:13.400 acrobatic catches great footwork able to kind of maneuver his 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:16.480 body in space, great special awareness as well. I just 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:18.080 love what he would be able to bring for the 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:20.680 Cowboys because he's not coming into a situation where he 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:23.440 has to compete for WR one or even WR two. 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:26.840 Those rules are cemented between Lamb and Brandon Cooks. But 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:29.359 he could challenge a guy like Jalen Tolward. He could 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:33.080 challenge most certainly going to challenge the rookie and trying 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:35.120 to make sure that the Cowboys are set at wide 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:38.560 receiver three and wide receiver four. But I do love 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:40.440 what he brings, and the Cowboys know exactly what was 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:43.120 Zay Jones can do because we were there in that 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:47.560 press box twenty twenty two when he's Jay Jones had 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.080 three touchdowns one hundred and nine yards in that infamous 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:50.960 overtime loss. 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:52.119 Might have been his best game. 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:52.480 I don't know. 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:53.840 I looked at all of his numbers, but. 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:57.000 Yeah, he certainly twenty twenty two is pretty solid season 0:03:57.000 --> 0:04:00.160 for him. He had over eight hundred yards total. Not 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:04.760 like you know, that particular game artificially inflated his numbers 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:06.840 because it was one hundred yard game, granted, but he 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:09.520 also had over eight hundred yards period for that season, 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:11.680 So strong strong get if they can get him. 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:13.360 Brian, you had a chance to talk to some of 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:15.440 the folks out, Yeah, Hi Jackson, what did you learn. 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:19.320 Yeah, they feel like though that the around the league, 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:22.120 the thought about Zay Jones is the lack of speed, 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:25.080 but they think that when you ask about the route running, 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.240 they think, well, listen, you're gonna get a better route 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:29.880 runner than what you had with Gallup, a more consistent 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:33.440 route runner. The catch radius. Patrick mentioned all that that's 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:36.280 a that's a real plus for him, his ability when 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:38.000 he's coming out of East Carolina and he was a 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:39.520 he was a good player on a poor team that 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:42.480 East Carolina, but he was their only offense that they 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:44.240 really had. So there was kind of hope in the 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:45.960 league that when he would come in that he would 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:48.359 kind of be able to carry that through. He really 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:50.839 hasn't been able to do it all that well, so 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:54.760 you know, hopefully you get a guy that can come 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:57.040 in the route running. We talked about the catch radius, 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:59.800 we talked about the experience we've you know, you can 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:03.200 kind of go with that a little bit with him there, 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:05.480 but yeah, he's going to be a guy that's going 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:07.480 to compete for a spot. Is he You got to 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:09.120 look at him. I've told you look at him as 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:12.560 a guy that's more outside in than inside out. People 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:14.520 always say, well, can you play slot? Can he do? 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:17.080 And my guys were saying, no, You've got to think 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:18.640 of him more of an outside guy. If he has 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:20.760 to play inside that, he can do that, but it's 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:22.880 better when you leave him on the outside. 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:25.479 So which works here because you got Cooks and Right 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:27.200 and Lamb who both can play inside. 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:29.680 Right right, So you know, the body control balance, all 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:32.479 those things are real, real plus and it's it's like 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:36.840 I say, it's a competitive situation. As we were mentioning thoughts. 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:43.800 I just went on the homepag Dallas. Come did you 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:56.039 just say the word I'm gonna? I always laugh because 0:05:56.440 --> 0:06:00.320 the writers on Dallas Cowboys, Dot Calm, including Patrick and 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:03.880 both knee Nicks, they just always try to get witty 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.520 with all these headlines, you know, for the centerpiece, and. 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:11.880 Always laugh. Some of them are dumber than the other. 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:12.800 But it's funny. 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:14.320 No no, no, it's great. 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:14.800 Love it. 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:19.599 No but a kid. 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:22.480 They make me laugh every time. 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:23.480 No, no, no, it's good. 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:24.960 We have fun. We have fun here. 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:28.479 It is no. But you know, it's one of those 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:31.960 things that you always wonder when you sign a guy 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:35.240 and you're like, okay, well sign he's not signed yet, 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:40.000 they're still in conversations. But when you always wonder, like, okay, 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:43.240 why if they're good, why are they're still available in 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:44.039 free agency? 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:45.680 But when you look at it, don't let. 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:54.400 There's a reason why. He's the reason why he's creating No. 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:59.240 But I mean everything you guys said, I agree, he's 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:01.880 not the great or anything, but I think he can 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:04.279 bring in. I like the fact that he will bring 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:07.680 in competition. And we talk about the other guys there 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:10.560 are in the depth chart right now, the guy that 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:18.240 they just drafted, uh r Flower noise floor floor just 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:22.480 makes it. Well, you look at that and you wonder, Okay, 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:25.280 what are they thinking about these younger guys, Like where 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:27.600 does he fit in and all of that. But to me, 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:30.040 you know, headed into training camp, I'm like, whatever, Like, 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:33.360 the more bodies the better you're open for competition. It 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:37.720 hopefully makes and forces these younger players to step up 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:39.920 their games and want to bring more to the table. 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:44.000 So I'm excited if it does happen. For it, he 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:46.120 seems like a solid guy. The fact that he's a 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:54.040 veteran guy. He's been around, uh since seventeen, Drafted in seventeen, twenty. 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:55.320 Seventeen, second round pick up the Bills in. 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:59.320 Seventeen, so quite a while. And I like that. I'm 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:02.080 always down for more experience in the room, so excited 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:02.400 for it. 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:04.160 And he's still on the right side of thirty. I 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:05.960 mean he's twenty nine right now, so he's still on 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:07.880 the right side of thirty. And I think and for 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:10.080 those that would say, well, why is he a free agent, Well, 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:12.600 he's not been a free agent long. It was just 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:14.280 a couple of weeks ago, if that, when he was 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:17.280 released by the Jacksonville Jaguars. And he's already host or 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:19.840 you know, taking visits with teams, Cowboys being one of 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:22.000 them obviously, so he's not going to be on the 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:22.640 market for long. 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:23.640 Yeah. 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:26.280 My question you brought up, Jalen Tobert. I think it's 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:29.720 the big question in the room is as you look 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:32.000 at someone like Jalen Tobert, whatever you think of what 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:34.520 he's done to this point, the Cowboys are obviously hopeful 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:36.760 that he's ready to take the next step and become 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:40.680 more productive in their offense. Does making a signing like this, 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:43.400 if they decide to do it, slow down the progress 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:46.200 of For someone like Jalen Tolbert, who again you would 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:48.559 expect at this point you need to start to see 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:51.760 that that he's progressing, and will you be able to 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:53.480 do that if there's another guy that's going to be 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:54.319 taking those reps. 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:57.240 I would hope from a Jalen Tobert standpoint, he would 0:08:57.320 --> 0:09:00.680 use it as motivation to make sure that the guy 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:03.600 come in can't take his spot, can't take his reps. 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:05.480 It's at this point it's on the player, right. So 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:07.079 it's like you said, I'm boy, we're going into the 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:09.079 training camp here in a couple of months, bring all 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.040 the talent, bring all the bodies, and just let it 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:13.360 sort itself out. If you're Jaalen Tobert, you need to 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:16.680 be focused on building off of the confidence from year two. 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:20.160 You had a fantastic year two as far as efficiency 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:24.720 for opportunities given you've kind of, you know, become a 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:27.480 student of the game behind Brandon Cooks and CD Lamb, 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.440 and you already you know the system. Just focus on 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:32.720 the positives. If you're jailing Tobert, say okay, well, you 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:34.520 know what I'm going to continue to go out here 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:37.040 and proved, because this is the front office and the 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:40.320 coaching staff saying, look, we believe that you can do it. However, 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:43.240 just in case we're going to bring this other guy in. 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:45.680 If you're jailing Tobert, don't let that get in your head. 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:48.120 Don't revert back to year one, Jalen Tobert where you were, 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:50.280 you know, kind of ify as far as your confidence 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:53.200 and your self confidence, walk in the power that you 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:55.760 have established from twenty twenty three and make sure that 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:58.280 he can't come in and take your spot. Make sure 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:01.760 that Cavante Turpin doesn't get your make sure that Ryan RF, 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:04.120 make sure that RF doesn't come in and take your reps. 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.840 So that's how Jenaln Tolbert has to approach it. Because 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:09.440 he's most certainly got the talent, right, it's all in 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:12.040 how he handles all of this competition coming at him, 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:13.040 because it's going to keep coming. 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:14.600 I think there's a lot of questions about him as 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:18.240 a player. About who about the Tooberbert. Yeah, I mean 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:21.080 you don't sit there and draft, you know, a receiver, 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:23.880 And no it wasn't high. But the way they talk 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:26.719 about this kid, you know, the floor and away with 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:29.080 I mean he was a I mean he was a 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:31.720 guy that they really really coveted, you know when they 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:33.760 got down to the end. I mean like he was 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:35.800 one of those guys when you talk about the length 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:38.960 of speed, the ability to catch the football, make plays 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:42.280 after the catch. You know, you go out and and 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:45.560 it's it's and then you go add a Zay Jones, 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:48.680 a veteran player. They don't they're they're they're telling the 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:51.320 player right there, listen, you either have to make it 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:53.240 happen this year or you're going to be gone. I 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:55.800 think there's a couple of guys on this team they're 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:58.280 in that mode right now. I think Sam Williams and 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:01.160 I think that that Tolbert of the two guys that 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:03.040 they put a lot in. As matter of fact, they 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:06.000 were taking right one in front of the other, and 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:07.800 I think there's a lot of pressure on them to 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:10.280 perform this year. There's Stephen Jones when he was talking 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:12.440 with us on one oh five three the Fan about 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:14.600 younger players stepping up and all that. He wasn't just 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:17.200 talking about Mozzi Smith and these other guys that you 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:20.800 know and Schoonmaker. He was talking about the Sam Williams 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:22.640 who was picked in the second round. He was talking 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.640 about the Jaylen Tolbert that was picked in the third round. 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:29.240 There's times they're to the point now where these guys 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:31.920 have to play, and I wouldn't be surprised if they 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:34.880 don't perform well in training camp. You can move on 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:37.400 from these guys, you know, you don't. They don't have 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:40.440 time anymore to sit there and allow two or three 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:43.360 years for guys to develop, especially with their cap situation. 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:46.480 You know they got rid of Michael Gallup. You know 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:48.960 that that's cost them money right there. They're trying to 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:52.280 fix the third receiver problem. They're throwing resources at it 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:54.959 right now, but they're also throwing it knowing that Jalen 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:58.200 Tolbert's on this roster and he needs to play better. 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:01.120 That's what's crazy. When you look at the roster and 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:05.720 everybody on this list and the question marks around everyone. 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:09.000 You have question marks about this whole new rookie class. 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:13.840 You have question mark about guys from last year's draft 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:17.480 and two years ago. So it's like it's it's wild 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:23.400 the amount of guys going since three two. I can't 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:26.800 do math now drafts to go three drafts to go 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:29.320 because it's one two three yeah, three years in a row. 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:32.199 Draft classes that you have a bunch of question marks 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:36.120 and now you're gambling em betting on this that this 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:39.080 is going to pan out and work out this younger talent. 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:41.240 So it's just it's crazy when you look at the 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:44.720 amount of experience and the lack of experience per se. 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:47.040 We've given them a lot of credit, and rightfully so, 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:50.160 for having good drafts, but they need this this draft. 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:53.680 Of course, the last draft is the question. The draft 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:56.520 before this last one is in question. But the draft 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:58.760 before that, the Sam Williams and the Tober Draft and 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:01.559 all that that that right there in itself too. You know, 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:03.360 they've got a couple of players out of that draft 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:05.240 they get played, but you know, they put a lot 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:07.760 into Sam and they put a lot into Tolbert as well. 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:10.520 They need those guys, and you know, maybe it's going 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:12.240 to be a time where they say, well maybe you know, 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:14.640 they've had the last couple of drafts that haven't been great, 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:17.679 you know, I mean, they've missed on some second round picks. 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:20.439 Though if you look at at the corner from Kentucky, 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:23.640 you know that that came through here and it didn't 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:27.439 pan out. Yeah, Joseph. So you know you can't continually 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:30.559 miss on second round picks here, you know, no team can. 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:32.520 I'm not just talking about Dallas Cowboys. I'm talking about 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:34.440 no teams can. You know, you got to find a 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:37.080 way those second third round picks. You've got to find 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:38.600 a way to make your team and make your team 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:40.760 better if you're going to be in a situation where 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:45.679 you have to pay your players premium money, especially your 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:46.720 top star players. 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:49.480 And honestly, circling back to Jayaln Tolbert, I don't know 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.600 that you know, potentially adding a guy like Zay Jones 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:56.000 should should ripple your waters any more than the fact 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.520 that who's on the roster right now. Right, So they 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:02.520 re signed Martavis Bright. They see something in Martavis Bryant. 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:04.680 I hear nothing but good things about what the Cowboys 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:06.360 expect him to do in training camp. We'll see if 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:08.480 it pans out. But you got guys like him who 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:10.960 they just recently had Tyron Billy Johnson. They brought Tyron 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:13.520 Billy Johnson back. And then let's talk about Jalen Brooks. 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:14.000 Right. 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:16.360 We've mentioned him a few times on this podcast. Jalen 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:18.520 Brooks when he was given the opportunities as a first 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:21.720 year guy last year, seventh round pick, he showed some things. 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:23.520 He was also one of the headliners or one of 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:26.880 the highlights I should say, consistently in training camp last season. 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:29.200 What does the year two leap look like for Jalen Brooks. 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:31.720 So those are guys that are already on the roster 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:35.320 before you went and added RF because until I get 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:38.880 his name for Illinoy, yeah, Ilinois, Ilinoid, until you before 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:41.280 you even add him in the draft, and before you 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:43.920 potentially add Zay Jones to the roster, there was already 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:45.920 a ton of competition if you're Jalen Tobert for that 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:48.400 wide receiver three spots. So at this point, if you're 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:50.480 Jalen Tobert, doesn't matter who else you add, because there 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:53.040 was already such a high level of competition a lot 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:55.440 of bodies. You just know at this point you got 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:57.160 to go forward and you got to put the pedal 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:57.600 to the floor. 0:14:57.720 --> 0:14:57.880 Yeah. 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:00.120 I think Sam Williams is a good example of of 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:02.960 what the question is here when you start talking about 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:06.080 somebody like like like Jalen Tolbert, because I think for 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.600 these last couple of years he's had so there's been 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:11.640 so much depth ahead of him, right, and the things 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:14.160 that we saw from him that were a bit concerning 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:16.600 were the kinds of mental mistakes that you don't want 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:19.120 to see. And I think those veterans that were ahead 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:21.960 of him probably gave the coaching staff a lot more 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:24.640 comfort putting those veterans out there that they wouldn't make 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:27.760 those kinds of mistakes. Well, now those guys have been 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:30.240 moved out of the way. They are now in Washington, 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:32.680 so and so now you've got an opportunity to move 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:35.120 Sam Williams up and you get to see is he 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:37.400 going to sink or swim? Is that talent going to 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:39.880 shine through, which we've seen some of that, or all 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:42.200 the mental mistakes going to shine through, which we've seen 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:44.000 some of that. But I think it's the same thing 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:46.000 for Tobert's going to be in a situation that's a 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:48.400 little different from the standpoint he may have to actually, 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:51.480 as you said, battle and prove his way into that 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:54.680 third spot versus it'll just just being there because all 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:56.320 the other guys have been moved out his way. 0:15:56.360 --> 0:16:00.400 They drafted that Marshanneeland too. Yeah, absolutely think about Sam 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:02.280 Williams and what he's going to have to deal with 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:05.400 with that Sam Sam Sam Williams can rush the passer, 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:08.880 Marsham Kneeling can play the run. If if Marshaw Kneeling 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:11.360 can play the run and rush the passer, Sam Williams 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:13.280 is not gonna have a job. That's just I mean, 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:14.800 they're gonna put the best. They're gonna put the guy 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:17.360 on there that can do both. But I think Sam 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:19.760 has the ability to be a better rusher right now 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:23.080 than Neelan does. But the fact that they're trying, if 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:26.000 they're trying to really shore up playing the run defense, 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:29.320 Neelan's a better run defender than Sam Williams is and 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:32.000 that's where that's the advantage to have. So Sam, there's 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:34.760 a couple of guys, like to say, the receiver, Tolbert Williams, 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:37.640 these guys they're on alert. I mean you could say 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:41.720 depth and all these other things, but the organization is 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:43.800 telling you right now what they think of your play, 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:47.280 and so that needs to be first and foremost in 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:48.120 these guys' minds. 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.440 And make no mistake about it. Sam Williams, he feels 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:52.480 the pressure, he understands it. Yeah, I was speaking to 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:54.480 him after the home run derby of the Gliant home 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:57.400 run Derby last Wednesday, I want to say and asked him, 0:16:57.440 --> 0:16:59.200 I said, what is what does year three have to 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:02.360 look like for you? And basically he said, this year 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:05.119 that's coming up is going to define the rest of 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:09.439 my NFL career. His words so and it can words 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:11.840 could not be more true, especially you talk about with 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:14.080 Stephen was saying to one, O five three the fan 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:16.520 listen to Stephen what he was saying in the post 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:20.320 draft press conference. He was drawing a circle around Sam 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:23.160 Williams and needing to see more from him. So if 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:24.760 you're Sam Williams, you're feeling it. 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:27.920 Fojoko too, by the way, Yeah, and maybe maybe Fo 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:31.879 Hooko was drafted from a previous administration, So you know 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:34.439 that's important right there. There's a fourth round pick that 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:38.199 was selected and you know, had a rookie year that 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:40.400 he wants to kind of forget being an active, being 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:43.920 injured and all that. You know, his you know, there's 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:46.360 no giving about what Mike Zimmer and those guys now, 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:48.080 they'll coach this kid up, but he's got to be 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:50.520 able to show. But there's another example of a fourth 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:54.520 round guy that again previous regime. It might be that 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:56.360 might be the big problem right there. But he's got 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:58.120 to prove that he could play for this this crew 0:17:58.200 --> 0:17:58.600 right here. 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:00.600 All right, let's take our first will come back. 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:02.959 Let's talk about Zeke Ellett, talk about the running position 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:05.920 and our overall philosophy on the running back position, where 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:08.120 it is and where the Cowboys place it. 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Yeah, 0:21:37.880 --> 0:21:39.800 who was it that did the cookies one year? Was 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:43.040 that Seattle Keys? Then Seattle Bake Cookies And then it 0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:44.840 showed up as who they were playing. 0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:46.600 Oh, I think I don't remember who did that. I 0:21:46.640 --> 0:21:48.440 remember it though, remember there was. 0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:50.520 There were some kind of funny ones that people we 0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:51.000 were doing. 0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:53.480 Yeah, but it'll be fun. We'll we'll have we'll have 0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:53.800 some fun. 0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:56.680 We've been working on this for a few months, so 0:21:56.720 --> 0:21:57.359 it'll be fun. 0:21:57.400 --> 0:21:58.560 We get to release it next week. 0:21:58.640 --> 0:22:00.760 A few months, a few months tells you something. 0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:03.000 It'll it'll be out and uh, next what you're. 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:05.200 Saying, Charlotte's been on your back for the last few months. 0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:07.160 They don't even have to be on my back. It's 0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:09.639 very trust me. By September of every year, I'm like, 0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:14.639 release is coming. It's literally just a is it bragging? 0:22:14.760 --> 0:22:14.920 Right? 0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:17.000 It's yeah, it is a yeah bragging right? 0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:19.800 Oka is a situation where you see your counterparts around 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:22.240 the league they know and you know who got the 0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:23.200 better of whom. 0:22:23.200 --> 0:22:24.480 When it came to schedule release. 0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:27.919 Okay, So yeah, is there is there a is there 0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:29.400 an ultimate judge for this? 0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:29.600 No? 0:22:30.080 --> 0:22:34.680 So like like you know, like like everyone with restaurant 0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:38.359 people have Michelin Stars. Like if a restaurant gets Michelin Stars, 0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:40.800 you're known as the best. There's nothing more than nobody 0:22:40.840 --> 0:22:42.840 that says, Derek, you guys were the best today. 0:22:42.880 --> 0:22:47.480 No, everybody will judge and ultimately, ultimately we all will 0:22:47.480 --> 0:22:49.879 look at each other and will know, you know, if 0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:50.679 they got you or not. 0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:52.320 You'll know if they were better than you or not. 0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:53.840 It's it's very well. 0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:55.960 You also know if somebody didn't do a good job. 0:22:55.840 --> 0:22:58.200 Yes, you do, you just you don't want to necessarily 0:22:58.200 --> 0:23:00.719 call them out, but you know you you know, and 0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:01.840 they know that. 0:23:01.800 --> 0:23:04.120 They didn't do that good at job. They didn't really resonate. 0:23:04.240 --> 0:23:06.600 So okay, yeah, it's a it's a big dish. 0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:09.000 Can we go, like are the odds for this? Like 0:23:09.040 --> 0:23:10.840 who's going to be the best? I mean, like are 0:23:10.840 --> 0:23:13.119 the cowboys? Like? Uh, you know five to two. 0:23:13.160 --> 0:23:17.679 Were consistently among the best. I would say, but I 0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:17.960 don't know. 0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:20.240 You want to call it the one you want to 0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:21.040 do it the ones. 0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:23.919 You can let other people say that. 0:23:23.960 --> 0:23:26.159 I'm not yourself, man, I shouldn't say it. 0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:27.439 You want to call it the ones now? 0:23:27.560 --> 0:23:27.879 Will not? 0:23:28.080 --> 0:23:29.960 No, I respect all of my colleagues. 0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:32.040 If I were to you didn't do that, you walked 0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:34.480 into your So can you believe this crap? Yes? 0:23:34.800 --> 0:23:37.720 And that's what we're talking privately, not just saying you 0:23:37.760 --> 0:23:38.359 never did that. 0:23:38.480 --> 0:23:41.600 No, never, I can't believe. I'm just Kendrick Lamard. You 0:23:41.840 --> 0:23:43.719 be humble, be humble. 0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:46.400 I expect that from them. Like I said, everybody needs 0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:48.720 an amber in their life. It makes sure that you 0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:54.560 never think too highly amused. Keep amber in your life. 0:23:54.560 --> 0:23:56.879 All right? 0:23:57.000 --> 0:23:59.440 Also float times. Yeah, but then when you get to 0:23:59.560 --> 0:24:00.199 highest I O. 0:24:02.400 --> 0:24:06.040 I think Nick would disagree with that. 0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:08.320 Yeah, okay, guys, all right. 0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:10.720 Let's talk about Zeke Kelly signed a one year deal. 0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:14.480 Do you guys, here's the blunt question I have for 0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:17.439 you on Week one of the NFL season, do you 0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:19.400 expect Zeke Kelly to be the starter at running back 0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:21.320 with this team? 0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:23.840 As we have this conversation, Yes, I do. 0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:28.000 I think it right now to yes, Yes, we're in 0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:28.840 number fifteen. 0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:31.719 All right, so you all agree that how concerned are 0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:32.280 you with that? 0:24:33.680 --> 0:24:37.280 Well, the thing, the thing that gives you hope there 0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:41.880 is hoping, as Amber likes to say, is that we'll 0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:44.040 see the upgrades at the tackle spot. 0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:45.000 We'll see the. 0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:49.080 Upgrades at potentially the center spot, thank you. Uh. We 0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:53.640 will see with the health of the right tackle. Need 0:24:53.680 --> 0:24:55.959 to see what the point of attack blocking looks like 0:24:56.000 --> 0:24:58.280 with the tight ends and camp and stuff like that. 0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:02.200 So uh, Dallas defense is committed now to trying to 0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:04.600 play better run defense. So you'll see some battles in 0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:07.000 training camp. If you see Dallas moving the ball on 0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:09.520 a defense, you're saying, oh, well, Dallas's defense might be 0:25:09.520 --> 0:25:13.200 in trouble, or Dallas's run offense looks a lot better 0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:15.080 as we're sitting there watching these practice. 0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:15.520 And we won't really know. 0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:18.160 Yeah yeah, but there'll be some of those those padded 0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:20.560 practices where you'll do the nine on seven drills and 0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:22.919 all of a sudden they can't tackle Zeke or the backs, 0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:25.600 but you could see holes or you could see, man, 0:25:25.640 --> 0:25:30.359 they're getting crushed. You know, Neelan is crushing Ferguson at 0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:33.480 the point of attack or or you know, Steal. It's 0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:36.879 not looking very good handling tank right now. They're gonna 0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:39.159 the back is going to make a difference. But I 0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:43.040 think the upgrades with the offensive line could maybe mask 0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:45.159 some of the things that you might have to deal with. 0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:47.520 I still wish they had. People will tell you though, 0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:51.440 in this organization that watch Rico Daddle run and they say, 0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:53.960 you do see a physical back, but you do see 0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:58.119 some some shiftinginess to his game. So that's what I 0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:00.199 was trying to get, you know, Lloyd the kid from 0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:03.520 usc Ripe, Tennessee those guys, That's what I was kind 0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:06.600 of hopeful for. But now what I have, I'm more 0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:10.239 betting on the offensive line and the tight ends and 0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:12.640 see how the backs plug into. 0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:15.399 That perfectly stated, I wrote that exact thing or that 0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:19.200 exact line of thought in last week's Science Lab kind 0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:22.359 of reviewing or previewing the return of Ezekiel Elliot? What 0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:24.520 is the impact really mean for the running back position? 0:26:24.800 --> 0:26:27.119 So two things are true. One, I'm on the record 0:26:27.119 --> 0:26:28.760 and I'm still on this hill. I wish that they 0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:32.200 had grabbed a running back in this draft. I wanted 0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:35.520 them to tandem that rookie with Ezekiel Elliott and then 0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:37.800 mix Erico dalala Win to see how that three headed 0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:40.760 monster would work. They didn't get the draft pick, but 0:26:41.240 --> 0:26:42.960 they did sign Zeke, which was the other half of 0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:46.000 the thing I wanted them to do. Great, wonderful. Now 0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:48.239 for those that are saying, well, you know what are 0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:50.800 you getting from Zeke? First of all, you're getting short yardage. 0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:53.520 You're getting a guy who will instantly the best pass 0:26:53.560 --> 0:26:56.000 protector in your running backs room. You're getting a guy 0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:59.000 who already knows. The system knows your quarterback, will protect 0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:01.680 your quarterback quite literally with his life, knows your head coach, 0:27:01.760 --> 0:27:04.560 so forth, and so on. But I love what Brian 0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:07.560 pointed out because this year, and we talked about it 0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:10.440 a lot last year, it wasn't all on Tony Pollard, 0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:12.480 it wasn't all on Rico Dalo. As far as the 0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:15.600 running back struggles. They had their struggles, but there were 0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:18.760 times where the lanes just weren't there at being opened 0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:20.240 at the point of attack, and some of that, A 0:27:20.280 --> 0:27:22.480 lot of that goes to you the merry go round 0:27:22.520 --> 0:27:26.040 because of injuries and personnel swapping out. Fine, now we're 0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:28.280 in twenty twenty four. You add a guy like Tyler 0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:30.080 got In with your first round pick. Yes, he's going 0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:31.720 to have to go through the crash course. We'll see 0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:33.960 what that looks like. We want Cooper BB. I'm just 0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:37.119 going to presume Cooper BB is your starting center in 0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:40.119 week one. If you have that interior, we'll see what 0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:43.359 happens with got In hopefully still is feeling much better 0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:45.679 with that much time removed from his torn acl But 0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:48.440 look at this interior. It's Cooper BB, it's Zach Martin. 0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:53.160 It's Tyler Smith. Okay, if that trio can be as 0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:56.280 dominant as we believe they can be, then your running 0:27:56.280 --> 0:27:58.880 backs are going to get their yards because the lanes 0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:01.240 are going to be open. You're gonna blink. Zeke's going 0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:02.600 to be at the second level. Ricle is going to 0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:04.119 be at the second level. Then it's just on that 0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:06.360 running back to make moves in space. And I love 0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:08.680 that Brian brought up the elusiveness of Rico Dwell because 0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:11.760 it's there. He's not the archetype of Zeke as far 0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:13.840 as being able to get you that short yardage. We 0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:15.840 saw that last season, but we've seen that he can 0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:17.400 be the archetype of Tony Pollard. 0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:19.840 You get him in space. He's shifty, he's elusive, he 0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:20.720 can use some quickness. 0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:22.920 So I think a lot of the success, I know, 0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:25.480 a lot of the success of this current running back 0:28:25.560 --> 0:28:27.520 corps is not even going to be on the caliber 0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:29.280 of running back. It's going to be on the caliber 0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:31.679 of who's opening the lanes in front of them. And 0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:34.080 I think that with the Cowboys addressing that with Cooper 0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:36.720 BB and Tyler Goydon, I think they're on the right path. 0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:39.280 Be interesting to see what they do with Due's fun. Yeah, 0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:43.480 because there's the there's the shiftiness, there's the quickness, there's 0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:47.160 the maybe not the finish of you know, backs with 0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:48.920 like his speed. But you know, the one thing when 0:28:48.920 --> 0:28:51.120 you watched him play at can't say he had nowhere 0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:53.680 to go running the ball this past season. I mean 0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:56.520 and and and it's not his fault if he's getting 0:28:56.560 --> 0:28:58.640 hit at you know, at the line of scrimmature, behind 0:28:58.640 --> 0:28:59.560 the line of scrimmagine, but. 0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:01.200 Who is block and form at Cannas. 0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:04.120 Date, Oh well yeah they had no bb Yeah, they 0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:07.680 had had a physical offensive line. So yeah, yeah, it's 0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:09.320 going to be I think we'll be able to tell 0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:11.680 in training camp real quick. I think we'll be able 0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:14.320 to see those those drills, the nine on seven drills, 0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:17.680 the team drills. Just watching them, you know, go through. 0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:20.400 You can see if the guys are getting movement or 0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:22.720 getting that, you know, because you have to give these 0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:25.840 backs an opportunity. And I think Ezekiel It can still 0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:28.280 run the ball, uh, but you got to give him 0:29:28.280 --> 0:29:31.400 space to get It's now he's not the twenty sixteen 0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:35.600 or twenty seventeen guy, but his determination to get yards 0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:38.320 will help you if you actually block things up front. 0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:40.840 I also had this really quickly before we have an amber. 0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:45.760 There's still some juice in Ezekiel Elliott's wheels, for lack 0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:48.080 of a better way to put it in space. If 0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:50.640 you go back and you look at that play when 0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:53.000 he was with the Patriots, the seventy yard. 0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:54.560 Swing. 0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:56.840 He turned that into a seventy yard touchdown and got 0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:59.480 called back because of a penalty on one of his 0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:03.760 offenses of lineman, I believe. But that showed me that, yeah, 0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:05.880 he's not the home run hitter that he was coming 0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:08.200 out of Ohio State or in twenty sixteen or maybe 0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:11.360 even twenty seventeen. But I think that that type of 0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:13.800 you know, play is still in the back pocket for 0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:16.000 McCarthy to pull out every once in a while to say, hey, 0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:18.960 you think that he can only do the dirty work. 0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:21.720 You catch him outside one of those swing routes and he, 0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:23.800 you know, takes it deep. I just wanted to put 0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:25.240 that out there for those that are wondering, is he 0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:27.440 only short yards? Yeah, he's still got a little bit 0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:28.760 of pep in his step. 0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:31.760 I wish they would steal the San Francisco forty nine 0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:34.680 ers passing game to backs. You know what I'm saying, 0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:38.320 It just seems like, and I get it, McCaffrey and 0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:40.080 those guys are rare. I get it. They know how 0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:41.840 to play in space or liman, know how to get 0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:44.520 out in space and stuff like that. But man, just 0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:47.360 if you could just throw him the ball. I mean, 0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:50.000 this guy can catch the ball well and then get up. 0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:51.440 You know, when you throw it on him, he could 0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:53.120 run it. He could be tough to bring down in 0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:55.880 the open field one on one ringbacks don't want to 0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:58.520 deal with him because he's willing to put his shoulder 0:30:58.560 --> 0:31:01.240 through somebody if he has to. So, you know, if 0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:04.320 they could just steal some throw some plays of throwing 0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:06.959 the ball to backs, and I would appreciate that a 0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:09.280 lot watching them play. I think it would be something 0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:10.800 that would be beneficial to them. 0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:11.440 Absolutely. 0:31:11.840 --> 0:31:12.040 Yeah. 0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:15.080 I think something that we saw last year with Tony 0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:22.000 Polor was his lack of ability to find the holes. 0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:24.440 And I know that goes into what the old line 0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:26.640 is doing and how much they're helping you. That's the 0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:29.160 biggest thing in that. But at the same time, I 0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:33.720 remember a lot of different plays where he just really 0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:35.560 figure out where to go exactly. 0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:39.960 The indecisiveness is yeah, and you're right, because what happens 0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:42.880 is if they don't block it clean. You know, the 0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:45.239 one thing about Zeke back in the day was if 0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:46.800 you put a full back in front of him and 0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:50.520 you make Zeke have to decide because the back, the 0:31:50.800 --> 0:31:54.160 full back is not sure who he's blocking, that slows 0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:57.760 up the back and Tony did. I mean, there wasn't 0:31:57.800 --> 0:32:00.440 great blocking, but the indecisiveness. I think it's a big 0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:02.160 part of his struggles last year. 0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:05.000 And I think we've seen plays when Zeke was still 0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:09.479 here that last year. I remember seeing certain plays where 0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:13.200 it would happen to him as well, but more often 0:32:13.280 --> 0:32:16.480 than not he would find those little gaps and holes 0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:20.800 and push for those short yardish type of situations. So 0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:25.160 I'm super excited. I'm super happy. I absolutely love Zeke. 0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:27.760 I love everything about him, and I can't wait to 0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:30.800 see him here. I don't think he's over. Even with 0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:35.680 the Patriots, he had a pretty decent time over there. 0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:39.720 He played like what like five games or so, still 0:32:39.720 --> 0:32:42.840 got close to a thousand yards, and that's also part 0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:46.480 of that was in receiving, So I think six hundred 0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:48.880 and something rushing and then the rest was receiving. Yards. 0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:51.840 So he still has stuff to bring to the table, 0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:54.200 and I can't wait to see him. Clearly, he was 0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:56.240 missed last year and we saw that. 0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:59.240 I will say this though, too, I will say they've 0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:03.840 got all these fives. If we get to Oxnard and 0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:08.240 it doesn't look clean for all these guys, I'm getting 0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:10.720 on the phone and I'm gonna I'm gonna move. I'm 0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:12.760 gonna make a I'm gonna make a deal like I 0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:14.840 made for I give up a one for like what 0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:17.520 you did for a Mark Cooper. But I'm yeah, I'm 0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:20.760 giving up one of these compensatory fives. Maybe you have 0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:23.680 to overpay a little bit to go get somebody that 0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:26.120 that could fit what you're trying to do. You can't 0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:28.920 go into the season struggle and running the football. You 0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:29.600 just can't. 0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:30.760 I did did here. 0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:33.480 I'm sure you guys heard it too, Jerry said during 0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:36.560 one of the press conferences after the draft. He said, 0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:39.080 I've seen teams win Super Bowls with running backs that 0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:39.680 they picked up. 0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:40.360 During the season. 0:33:40.920 --> 0:33:42.880 During that season, and so I think in the back 0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:44.680 of their minds they're looking at it like, Okay, we're 0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:46.400 gonna throw some different options at this. We're going to 0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:48.480 see how we go. And again, to me, I think 0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:51.480 it's really that bigger perspective I mentioned earlier. I think 0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:55.520 they are I think they are taking the the yeah, 0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:57.720 but I think they're taking the opinion that if you've 0:33:57.720 --> 0:34:00.200 got all these positions, you have to address the one 0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:03.040 you can patch up the easiest is running back. So 0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:05.480 let's make sure we get the linebacker. Let's make sure 0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:07.880 we get the defensive tackle of the defensive end. Let's 0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:10.359 make sure we get a defensive tackle. They're looking at 0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:11.960 all these others in the draft, and I think when 0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:14.000 it came running back, they felt like, hey, this is 0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:17.000 an area where you look at the NFL teams have 0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:20.600 success with backup caliber running backs, with running backs that 0:34:20.640 --> 0:34:23.360 aren't the complete package, that running backs that aren't highest 0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:25.600 paid running backs in the league, they can still find 0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:27.640 success in there. And I think that's the position that 0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:28.200 they've taken. 0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:29.120 We'll see if it works. 0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:33.040 They valued in this draft stopping the run more than 0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:35.279 they did running the ball. In this way, I whan 0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:37.120 it's came to I mean, you look at with Cooper 0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:39.120 BB and stuff like that, that that helps you with 0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:42.000 the running part. But then it came down to, Okay, 0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:44.080 we've got to stop the run too, and so then 0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:46.200 you get the linebacker, you get the you know, in 0:34:46.239 --> 0:34:46.879 the second round. 0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:48.680 So and it's hard to find in their mind, it's 0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:51.400 harder to find a linebacker a running back exactly right, 0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:52.480 exactly yeah, And. 0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:53.920 So I think that's the part where it's going to 0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:55.799 be very interesting to see how this plays out for 0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:57.879 the Cowboys because this is a little different approach than 0:34:57.880 --> 0:34:59.799 what they've taken to this point. A team that's been 0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:03.600 throughout his history always had very, very high profile and 0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:06.879 successful running backs. We'll see how this approach works. We're 0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:08.440 going to take our final break. We'll come back. I 0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:10.120 want to talk a little bit about the rookie Minnie 0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:11.759 camp that's coming up, some of the guys that you 0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:13.320 guys expect to see out here, and we'll have a 0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:15.360 couple questions for you guys on this rookie class. 0:35:15.360 --> 0:35:16.960 We'll be back, Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:20.319 Todd thought it would be secure to jog in the 0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:23.279 cheetah Savannah. 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Visit United Agonturf 0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:17.839 dot com to find a location near you. 0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:25.640 Back to the break, Oh, I have a read. 0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:29.440 I'm sitting here thinking about thinking Senior moment can Kenny 0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:32.879 Chesney's bringing His Son Goes Down twenty twenty four tour 0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:37.080 with Zach Brown Band and special guests. Morgan, Maroney and 0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:40.800 Uncle Cracker to AT and T Stadium on May eleventh. 0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:43.319 Tickets are on sale now at SeatGeek dot com, the 0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:45.600 official Tickney partner of AT and T Stadium. 0:37:45.719 --> 0:37:47.160 Welcome Back File Segment. 0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:52.719 SWVC Morgan Studios at the Stars, We're brought to you 0:37:52.760 --> 0:37:56.600 by LG. Let's talk about the Rookie Minni camp. Obviously, 0:37:56.600 --> 0:37:59.360 the guys will start arriving I think as early as. 0:37:59.160 --> 0:38:02.160 Today maybe someone. 0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:05.840 But the actually the time that they will spend to 0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:08.040 you guys will get with them. I want some private 0:38:08.040 --> 0:38:10.200 time on Thursday, but Friday and Saturday the rest of 0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:12.759 the meeting will have an opportunity to be able to 0:38:12.760 --> 0:38:15.480 meet with them. As we start getting into these practices, 0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:17.440 obviously there's not a lot going on. 0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:19.799 I miss the Jason Garrett practices where he made Des 0:38:19.840 --> 0:38:20.680 Bryant throw it right. 0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:22.799 Yeah, it used to be a challenge of Will's right. 0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:23.200 Yeah. 0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:24.960 What what do you guys look for when you out 0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:27.120 here watching this? Is there anything that you look at like? 0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:28.960 I just want to see this when I when I 0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:31.480 get a chance to actually see them in person, I think. 0:38:31.360 --> 0:38:33.560 The thing that I always look for is where are 0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:37.000 they thinking about lining these guys up, Okay, figure out, Okay, 0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:41.080 where did they see Marshaan Neeland? Where do they see uh, 0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:43.520 you know Maris. Where do they see the you know 0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:46.120 the Bbie in center guard where you. 0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:48.720 Just what the initial thoughts, the initial thought, Yeah. 0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:50.520 Are they running with it? You know, probably most of 0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:52.279 them are going to be running with second or third 0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:56.240 team guys initially. I mean it's by themselves, right, so 0:38:56.239 --> 0:38:58.640 so it'll be the rookies by themselves. But you'll probably 0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:01.480 be in a situation where you're see like where they 0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:04.200 have an idea of that. And I when they do 0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:06.720 kind of move guys around, like you know with Kaitlin 0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:11.760 Carson the corner, I'm interested in seeing like his movement skills, 0:39:11.800 --> 0:39:14.239 like if they do him running through drills, the feet 0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:17.040 look quick, his ability to turn. You know, these guys 0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:20.520 probably are not in great shape when after these camps over, 0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:23.440 after all that, everybody gets to go home and these 0:39:23.440 --> 0:39:25.520 guys have to stay. Yeah, and then that's where you 0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:28.440 kind of that's where these guys get back into football shape. 0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:33.440 Emandy Johnson's a free agent that they got undrafted free agents, 0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:36.879 a safety that I'm really excited about because I saw 0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:39.680 him play at Nevada and he's a guy that probably 0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:41.839 should have been drafted. So I'm kind of interested in 0:39:41.880 --> 0:39:46.200 some of these undrafted guys and then and then where 0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:49.200 they're going to line up the guys that were drafted. 0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:50.960 That's that's what's always fascinating to me. 0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:53.360 And in great points as far as because it is 0:39:53.400 --> 0:39:56.719 walkthroughs basically, so the most we can take away from 0:39:56.760 --> 0:39:59.960 the media portion is where they line this player up 0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:03.880 versus that player and how they're you know, rotating him. So, 0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:06.319 like you said, when you talk about Cooper Bebe, is 0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:08.920 he already starting out as a center or are they 0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:10.959 trying him at guard first and then kind of moving 0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:13.879 from there. But I'm also right there with Brian as well. 0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:17.240 So first I'll say this, I'm also looking at the players, 0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:19.759 the rookies' physical stature, like what kind of shape are 0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:21.920 they showing up for, right, because that's going to be 0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:24.799 key because obviously not necessarily a red flag on any 0:40:24.800 --> 0:40:26.600 of these rookies the Cowboys have, but there were some 0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:29.320 prospects going into the draft where you know, red flag 0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:31.919 was that, oh, well, they put on too much weight 0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:34.239 or they're gaining weight at the wrong time. Just want 0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:35.799 to see these guys come in in shape. Want to 0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:37.520 see them come in ready to learn, ready to go. 0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:38.960 And I'm really, like. 0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:41.359 I was saying about Brian's point, I'm really looking at 0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:44.040 these undrafted free agents because I'm wondering because the Cowboys 0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:48.520 typically do well in undrafted free agency. So I'm trying 0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:51.720 to figure out effect of this weekend, who will stand 0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:54.160 out the most in the pool of twelve to thirteen 0:40:54.239 --> 0:40:55.120 undrafted free agents? 0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:56.240 Who can make some waves. 0:40:56.840 --> 0:40:59.520 Can Nathaniel Pete, the loaned running back that was signed 0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:01.719 an undraft free agency? Can he make a little bit 0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:04.200 of waves make things hard for someone like Snoop Connor, 0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:08.240 Royce Freeman, maybe Milie Davis, we don't know yet, maybe 0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:11.680 Ducevon we'll see. But then Jason Johnson, He's a good one. 0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:14.400 Denzel Dockson is one that I'm looking at out of Illinois. 0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:18.120 We are keyed in on this defensive tackle situation. I 0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:20.840 think the Cowboys are still open to bringing in the 0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:23.560 veteran in free agency. I've said that, but when you 0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:26.040 look at what they got in Justin Rodgers seventh round pick. 0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:29.720 Still need some polish, but Justin Rogers versus Denzel Dockson, 0:41:29.760 --> 0:41:32.839 you got two big defensive tackles that are gonna put 0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:35.160 themselves on the field this weekend. So just interested to 0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:38.359 see things like that, and for me, really above all, 0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:41.520 I want to see if any of these undrafted rookies 0:41:41.560 --> 0:41:43.320 can really start to stand out quickly. 0:41:44.480 --> 0:41:48.680 Yeah, I'll be honest, personally, I don't get as much 0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:52.560 as like what happens on the field, like you know, 0:41:52.800 --> 0:41:56.399 to me, I prefer I love mini camp actual mini 0:41:56.400 --> 0:41:59.200 camp born. You get to see the veterans blended with 0:41:59.239 --> 0:42:02.120 the rookies, can see the rookies body type, how they 0:42:02.200 --> 0:42:06.480 kind of fit in and look merged with the veterans. 0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:09.480 So that's my favorite part. But from this session rookie 0:42:09.520 --> 0:42:13.319 mini caamp, what I like the most honestly is when 0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:15.399 we get the chance to talk to them and meet 0:42:15.400 --> 0:42:18.080 them and hear them. And that's what do I like, 0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:20.759 You do I not, you know, That's what it's for 0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:24.759 me to get the vibe more often they're not than 0:42:24.800 --> 0:42:26.360 not they're. 0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:32.800 They're always exactly you know. 0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:38.160 But that's that's my favorite part of this weekend is 0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:42.600 just getting their vibes. And usually they're always very very happy, 0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:44.920 you know, they just got drafted by the Cowboys or 0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:47.960 signed by the Cowboys and they're here and they're usually 0:42:48.040 --> 0:42:52.239 with a great attitude. But it's that's my favorite part. 0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:56.440 And now I've changed my tune on a lot of things, 0:42:56.480 --> 0:42:59.360 and I probably come off as a very judgy person 0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:02.120 on this show and I'm not. This is just no, 0:43:02.480 --> 0:43:06.000 this is just about football and stuff. But stop, I 0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:10.440 am not. Oh my gosh. Anyways, but again, I tell 0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:14.040 this story and I love it because when I first 0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:16.880 met throw On Bland and I've said this on the 0:43:16.920 --> 0:43:20.200 show before, it was Rucky minicamp and we got to 0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:22.000 talk to him and I got to talk to him 0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:24.959 one and one and he was so shy and such 0:43:25.000 --> 0:43:27.719 a baby face. I'm just like, I hate saying this, 0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:30.160 but in my head, I'm like, Okay, what is this 0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:30.960 guy gonna do? 0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:32.840 Like on the field? 0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:40.600 Boy did he proved my judgmental here has been absolutely amazing. 0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:42.680 But it's one of those things that it's it's just 0:43:42.760 --> 0:43:44.880 fun to get to know the player and. 0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:46.600 You know who's probably gonna throw off a little bit 0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:48.480 in that capacity. And I know we talk a lot 0:43:48.480 --> 0:43:51.400 about Cooper Bebe, but it's justifiable. But his demeanor, like 0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:53.840 off the field, he's kind of like Jovia he's smoking 0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:57.359 with jovial, the innocent smile, but they're looking his eyes. 0:43:57.400 --> 0:43:59.480 There's a killer in those eyes, man, And when the 0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:01.759 ball gets after he is just something different. But yeah, 0:44:01.760 --> 0:44:04.000 that's a good point. I mean, and I do love 0:44:04.360 --> 0:44:06.920 when mini camp does roll around. That's when it's really 0:44:07.000 --> 0:44:08.799 going to start to hit home for these rookies. Like 0:44:08.880 --> 0:44:10.799 right now, they're going to come in this weekend and 0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:14.000 it's you know, they're riding high and they're ampt and they're. 0:44:13.840 --> 0:44:14.319 Ready to go. 0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:16.760 When the veterans start coming in and they start commingling 0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:19.560 with veterans and the standard starts to get set, that's 0:44:19.600 --> 0:44:21.800 really when you start to be able to tell who's 0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:23.840 going to start to kind of pull away from the 0:44:23.840 --> 0:44:24.759 rest of the rookie back. 0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:25.040 Yeah. 0:44:25.080 --> 0:44:27.040 Part of that is you start realizing there are no 0:44:27.120 --> 0:44:29.360 free reps in the NFL. Right in college there are 0:44:29.400 --> 0:44:30.720 a lot of guys that are going to be selling 0:44:30.719 --> 0:44:34.319 insurance once they're done playing college football. Everybody out here 0:44:34.680 --> 0:44:36.840 is a baller, and I know people give them a 0:44:36.880 --> 0:44:39.520 hard time with your third string whatever, but they're a 0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:42.200 professional and there's a reason why they're professional. So there 0:44:42.200 --> 0:44:45.160 are no easy wins out here on the NFL football. 0:44:44.840 --> 0:44:48.120 Field, and you were brought in to take their job exactly. 0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:49.760 So it is a challenge. 0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:52.040 Definitely is a challenge mentally and physically. All Right, we 0:44:52.040 --> 0:44:53.719 appreciate you guys, you doing it. We'll be back next week. 0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:55.759 We'll tell you what happened at the mini camp, if 0:44:55.800 --> 0:44:57.520 there is anything that came out of the mini camp, 0:44:57.880 --> 0:44:59.480 and then we'll also get into some other topics. 0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:02.839 We'll actually start a little bit of a review here 0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:03.479 the next week. 0:45:03.920 --> 0:45:06.160 We only have I think four more episodes before we 0:45:06.160 --> 0:45:08.080 take our little hiatus for the summer. 0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:11.120 Amber's excited, and so. 0:45:11.360 --> 0:45:13.400 We'll get into a little bit of a bigger picture 0:45:13.400 --> 0:45:15.120 to look at a lot of different positions around this 0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:16.799 team and kind of can set you guys up what 0:45:17.120 --> 0:45:19.320 training camp will look like. Till then, for Patrick Walker, 0:45:19.320 --> 0:45:21.880 Brian brought us an Ama Garcia. I'm Derek Eagleton. 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