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Speaker 5: It is Wednesday, May eighth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty,
Speaker 5: episode number six. Welcome to the latest edition of The
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Speaker 2: Today.
Speaker 5: We got a lot of different topics we're going to
Speaker 5: get into. We'll start with a little bit of news
Speaker 5: coming out of the Star on a potential wide receiver
Speaker 5: to add to the mix. We'll also talk a little
Speaker 5: bit about Zeke Elliott and his addition to the team
Speaker 5: and what he can bring and what's still left to
Speaker 5: be done at that running back position, and really from
Speaker 5: the running back position, I want to talk about a
Speaker 5: little bigger conversation on just your thoughts on the running
Speaker 5: back position, to devalue in the running back position and
Speaker 5: how you think maybe this plays into that philosophy. We
Speaker 5: hopefully at some point in the show we'll also get
Speaker 5: into a little bit of rookie mining camp talk that
Speaker 5: starts up later this week, and we'll talk about some
Speaker 5: big picture looks at some of the things that you
Speaker 5: guys will be looking for as the rookies arrive and
Speaker 5: make their debuts here in Frisco.
Speaker 2: Texas at the Star.
Speaker 5: All right, So let's start first with Zay Jones. Cowboys
Speaker 5: bring him in for discussion.
Speaker 6: Try.
Speaker 5: I don't know what it's going to be, but he's
Speaker 5: going to be in the building if he's not already
Speaker 5: in the building. And my question for you guys, as
Speaker 5: I was looking at some of his numbers, he's a
Speaker 5: guy that has had some success, a small amount of success.
Speaker 5: You're look at this number from twenty twenty three, not great,
Speaker 5: nine games, you had thirty four catches for three hundred
Speaker 5: and twenty one yards and two touchdowns. But twenty twenty two,
Speaker 5: which was his best season, he played sixteen games, he
Speaker 5: had eighty two catches, eight hundred and twenty three yards
Speaker 5: and five touchdowns. Pretty good if you're looking at him
Speaker 5: potentially as a third wide receiver, talk to me about
Speaker 5: what you think about this potential move and how it
Speaker 5: could affect the Cowboys.
Speaker 8: So sorry, Patrick, First of all, go ahead and get
Speaker 8: Robert's son in here. Okay, So for those that don't know,
Speaker 8: this is actually Jay.
Speaker 6: Jones giving alright. No, no, not quite, not exactly.
Speaker 2: We'll get to that conversation.
Speaker 6: It sounds like it's coming, it's not quite.
Speaker 8: I mean, if Florino is in the building, so I
Speaker 8: mean the competition has already been added, so add more.
Speaker 8: All right, But no, for those that don't know, that's
Speaker 8: just a reference to the fact that Jay Jones is
Speaker 8: Robert Jones's son, which Cowboys former linebacker, former first round
Speaker 8: pick in ninety two, went on to win not one,
Speaker 8: not two, but three Super Bowls with the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 8: So a little bit of a legacy here with the
Speaker 8: Joneses and the Joneses and the Jones It's nice.
Speaker 6: Okay, that's an accidental bar. I'll take that.
Speaker 8: But what I look for in Jay Jones is to
Speaker 8: come in and compete for that seat vacated by Michael Gallup.
Speaker 8: We were talking about it before we went hot. He's
Speaker 8: not the fastest guy, but catch radius is ridiculous, something
Speaker 8: that Michael Gallup kind of became famous for, making those
Speaker 8: acrobatic catches great footwork able to kind of maneuver his
Speaker 8: body in space, great special awareness as well. I just
Speaker 8: love what he would be able to bring for the
Speaker 8: Cowboys because he's not coming into a situation where he
Speaker 8: has to compete for WR one or even WR two.
Speaker 8: Those rules are cemented between Lamb and Brandon Cooks. But
Speaker 8: he could challenge a guy like Jalen Tolward. He could
Speaker 8: challenge most certainly going to challenge the rookie and trying
Speaker 8: to make sure that the Cowboys are set at wide
Speaker 8: receiver three and wide receiver four. But I do love
Speaker 8: what he brings, and the Cowboys know exactly what was
Speaker 8: Zay Jones can do because we were there in that
Speaker 8: press box twenty twenty two when he's Jay Jones had
Speaker 8: three touchdowns one hundred and nine yards in that infamous
Speaker 8: overtime loss.
Speaker 2: Might have been his best game.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I looked at all of his numbers, but.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he certainly twenty twenty two is pretty solid season
Speaker 8: for him. He had over eight hundred yards total. Not
Speaker 8: like you know, that particular game artificially inflated his numbers
Speaker 8: because it was one hundred yard game, granted, but he
Speaker 8: also had over eight hundred yards period for that season,
Speaker 8: So strong strong get if they can get him.
Speaker 5: Brian, you had a chance to talk to some of
Speaker 5: the folks out, Yeah, Hi Jackson, what did you learn.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they feel like though that the around the league,
Speaker 4: the thought about Zay Jones is the lack of speed,
Speaker 4: but they think that when you ask about the route running,
Speaker 4: they think, well, listen, you're gonna get a better route
Speaker 4: runner than what you had with Gallup, a more consistent
Speaker 4: route runner. The catch radius. Patrick mentioned all that that's
Speaker 4: a that's a real plus for him, his ability when
Speaker 4: he's coming out of East Carolina and he was a
Speaker 4: he was a good player on a poor team that
Speaker 4: East Carolina, but he was their only offense that they
Speaker 4: really had. So there was kind of hope in the
Speaker 4: league that when he would come in that he would
Speaker 4: kind of be able to carry that through. He really
Speaker 4: hasn't been able to do it all that well, so
Speaker 4: you know, hopefully you get a guy that can come
Speaker 4: in the route running. We talked about the catch radius,
Speaker 4: we talked about the experience we've you know, you can
Speaker 4: kind of go with that a little bit with him there,
Speaker 4: but yeah, he's going to be a guy that's going
Speaker 4: to compete for a spot. Is he You got to
Speaker 4: look at him. I've told you look at him as
Speaker 4: a guy that's more outside in than inside out. People
Speaker 4: always say, well, can you play slot? Can he do?
Speaker 4: And my guys were saying, no, You've got to think
Speaker 4: of him more of an outside guy. If he has
Speaker 4: to play inside that, he can do that, but it's
Speaker 4: better when you leave him on the outside.
Speaker 5: So which works here because you got Cooks and Right
Speaker 5: and Lamb who both can play inside.
Speaker 4: Right right, So you know, the body control balance, all
Speaker 4: those things are real, real plus and it's it's like
Speaker 4: I say, it's a competitive situation. As we were mentioning thoughts.
Speaker 9: I just went on the homepag Dallas. Come did you
Speaker 9: just say the word I'm gonna? I always laugh because
Speaker 9: the writers on Dallas Cowboys, Dot Calm, including Patrick and
Speaker 9: both knee Nicks, they just always try to get witty
Speaker 9: with all these headlines, you know, for the centerpiece, and.
Speaker 2: Always laugh. Some of them are dumber than the other.
Speaker 2: But it's funny.
Speaker 9: No no, no, it's great.
Speaker 2: Love it.
Speaker 4: No but a kid.
Speaker 9: They make me laugh every time.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's good.
Speaker 6: We have fun. We have fun here.
Speaker 9: It is no. But you know, it's one of those
Speaker 9: things that you always wonder when you sign a guy
Speaker 9: and you're like, okay, well sign he's not signed yet,
Speaker 9: they're still in conversations. But when you always wonder, like, okay,
Speaker 9: why if they're good, why are they're still available in
Speaker 9: free agency?
Speaker 4: But when you look at it, don't let.
Speaker 2: There's a reason why. He's the reason why he's creating No.
Speaker 9: But I mean everything you guys said, I agree, he's
Speaker 9: not the great or anything, but I think he can
Speaker 9: bring in. I like the fact that he will bring
Speaker 9: in competition. And we talk about the other guys there
Speaker 9: are in the depth chart right now, the guy that
Speaker 9: they just drafted, uh r Flower noise floor floor just
Speaker 9: makes it. Well, you look at that and you wonder, Okay,
Speaker 9: what are they thinking about these younger guys, Like where
Speaker 9: does he fit in and all of that. But to me,
Speaker 9: you know, headed into training camp, I'm like, whatever, Like,
Speaker 9: the more bodies the better you're open for competition. It
Speaker 9: hopefully makes and forces these younger players to step up
Speaker 9: their games and want to bring more to the table.
Speaker 9: So I'm excited if it does happen. For it, he
Speaker 9: seems like a solid guy. The fact that he's a
Speaker 9: veteran guy. He's been around, uh since seventeen, Drafted in seventeen, twenty.
Speaker 6: Seventeen, second round pick up the Bills in.
Speaker 9: Seventeen, so quite a while. And I like that. I'm
Speaker 9: always down for more experience in the room, so excited
Speaker 9: for it.
Speaker 8: And he's still on the right side of thirty. I
Speaker 8: mean he's twenty nine right now, so he's still on
Speaker 8: the right side of thirty. And I think and for
Speaker 8: those that would say, well, why is he a free agent, Well,
Speaker 8: he's not been a free agent long. It was just
Speaker 8: a couple of weeks ago, if that, when he was
Speaker 8: released by the Jacksonville Jaguars. And he's already host or
Speaker 8: you know, taking visits with teams, Cowboys being one of
Speaker 8: them obviously, so he's not going to be on the
Speaker 8: market for long.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: My question you brought up, Jalen Tobert. I think it's
Speaker 5: the big question in the room is as you look
Speaker 5: at someone like Jalen Tobert, whatever you think of what
Speaker 5: he's done to this point, the Cowboys are obviously hopeful
Speaker 5: that he's ready to take the next step and become
Speaker 5: more productive in their offense. Does making a signing like this,
Speaker 5: if they decide to do it, slow down the progress
Speaker 5: of For someone like Jalen Tolbert, who again you would
Speaker 5: expect at this point you need to start to see
Speaker 5: that that he's progressing, and will you be able to
Speaker 5: do that if there's another guy that's going to be
Speaker 5: taking those reps.
Speaker 8: I would hope from a Jalen Tobert standpoint, he would
Speaker 8: use it as motivation to make sure that the guy
Speaker 8: come in can't take his spot, can't take his reps.
Speaker 8: It's at this point it's on the player, right. So
Speaker 8: it's like you said, I'm boy, we're going into the
Speaker 8: training camp here in a couple of months, bring all
Speaker 8: the talent, bring all the bodies, and just let it
Speaker 8: sort itself out. If you're Jaalen Tobert, you need to
Speaker 8: be focused on building off of the confidence from year two.
Speaker 8: You had a fantastic year two as far as efficiency
Speaker 8: for opportunities given you've kind of, you know, become a
Speaker 8: student of the game behind Brandon Cooks and CD Lamb,
Speaker 8: and you already you know the system. Just focus on
Speaker 8: the positives. If you're jailing Tobert, say okay, well, you
Speaker 8: know what I'm going to continue to go out here
Speaker 8: and proved, because this is the front office and the
Speaker 8: coaching staff saying, look, we believe that you can do it. However,
Speaker 8: just in case we're going to bring this other guy in.
Speaker 8: If you're jailing Tobert, don't let that get in your head.
Speaker 8: Don't revert back to year one, Jalen Tobert where you were,
Speaker 8: you know, kind of ify as far as your confidence
Speaker 8: and your self confidence, walk in the power that you
Speaker 8: have established from twenty twenty three and make sure that
Speaker 8: he can't come in and take your spot. Make sure
Speaker 8: that Cavante Turpin doesn't get your make sure that Ryan RF,
Speaker 8: make sure that RF doesn't come in and take your reps.
Speaker 8: So that's how Jenaln Tolbert has to approach it. Because
Speaker 8: he's most certainly got the talent, right, it's all in
Speaker 8: how he handles all of this competition coming at him,
Speaker 8: because it's going to keep coming.
Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of questions about him as
Speaker 4: a player. About who about the Tooberbert. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 4: you don't sit there and draft, you know, a receiver,
Speaker 4: And no it wasn't high. But the way they talk
Speaker 4: about this kid, you know, the floor and away with
Speaker 4: I mean he was a I mean he was a
Speaker 4: guy that they really really coveted, you know when they
Speaker 4: got down to the end. I mean like he was
Speaker 4: one of those guys when you talk about the length
Speaker 4: of speed, the ability to catch the football, make plays
Speaker 4: after the catch. You know, you go out and and
Speaker 4: it's it's and then you go add a Zay Jones,
Speaker 4: a veteran player. They don't they're they're they're telling the
Speaker 4: player right there, listen, you either have to make it
Speaker 4: happen this year or you're going to be gone. I
Speaker 4: think there's a couple of guys on this team they're
Speaker 4: in that mode right now. I think Sam Williams and
Speaker 4: I think that that Tolbert of the two guys that
Speaker 4: they put a lot in. As matter of fact, they
Speaker 4: were taking right one in front of the other, and
Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of pressure on them to
Speaker 4: perform this year. There's Stephen Jones when he was talking
Speaker 4: with us on one oh five three the Fan about
Speaker 4: younger players stepping up and all that. He wasn't just
Speaker 4: talking about Mozzi Smith and these other guys that you
Speaker 4: know and Schoonmaker. He was talking about the Sam Williams
Speaker 4: who was picked in the second round. He was talking
Speaker 4: about the Jaylen Tolbert that was picked in the third round.
Speaker 4: There's times they're to the point now where these guys
Speaker 4: have to play, and I wouldn't be surprised if they
Speaker 4: don't perform well in training camp. You can move on
Speaker 4: from these guys, you know, you don't. They don't have
Speaker 4: time anymore to sit there and allow two or three
Speaker 4: years for guys to develop, especially with their cap situation.
Speaker 4: You know they got rid of Michael Gallup. You know
Speaker 4: that that's cost them money right there. They're trying to
Speaker 4: fix the third receiver problem. They're throwing resources at it
Speaker 4: right now, but they're also throwing it knowing that Jalen
Speaker 4: Tolbert's on this roster and he needs to play better.
Speaker 9: That's what's crazy. When you look at the roster and
Speaker 9: everybody on this list and the question marks around everyone.
Speaker 9: You have question marks about this whole new rookie class.
Speaker 9: You have question mark about guys from last year's draft
Speaker 9: and two years ago. So it's like it's it's wild
Speaker 9: the amount of guys going since three two. I can't
Speaker 9: do math now drafts to go three drafts to go
Speaker 9: because it's one two three yeah, three years in a row.
Speaker 9: Draft classes that you have a bunch of question marks
Speaker 9: and now you're gambling em betting on this that this
Speaker 9: is going to pan out and work out this younger talent.
Speaker 9: So it's just it's crazy when you look at the
Speaker 9: amount of experience and the lack of experience per se.
Speaker 4: We've given them a lot of credit, and rightfully so,
Speaker 4: for having good drafts, but they need this this draft.
Speaker 4: Of course, the last draft is the question. The draft
Speaker 4: before this last one is in question. But the draft
Speaker 4: before that, the Sam Williams and the Tober Draft and
Speaker 4: all that that that right there in itself too. You know,
Speaker 4: they've got a couple of players out of that draft
Speaker 4: they get played, but you know, they put a lot
Speaker 4: into Sam and they put a lot into Tolbert as well.
Speaker 4: They need those guys, and you know, maybe it's going
Speaker 4: to be a time where they say, well maybe you know,
Speaker 4: they've had the last couple of drafts that haven't been great,
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, they've missed on some second round picks.
Speaker 4: Though if you look at at the corner from Kentucky,
Speaker 4: you know that that came through here and it didn't
Speaker 4: pan out. Yeah, Joseph. So you know you can't continually
Speaker 4: miss on second round picks here, you know, no team can.
Speaker 4: I'm not just talking about Dallas Cowboys. I'm talking about
Speaker 4: no teams can. You know, you got to find a
Speaker 4: way those second third round picks. You've got to find
Speaker 4: a way to make your team and make your team
Speaker 4: better if you're going to be in a situation where
Speaker 4: you have to pay your players premium money, especially your
Speaker 4: top star players.
Speaker 8: And honestly, circling back to Jayaln Tolbert, I don't know
Speaker 8: that you know, potentially adding a guy like Zay Jones
Speaker 8: should should ripple your waters any more than the fact
Speaker 8: that who's on the roster right now. Right, So they
Speaker 8: re signed Martavis Bright. They see something in Martavis Bryant.
Speaker 8: I hear nothing but good things about what the Cowboys
Speaker 8: expect him to do in training camp. We'll see if
Speaker 8: it pans out. But you got guys like him who
Speaker 8: they just recently had Tyron Billy Johnson. They brought Tyron
Speaker 8: Billy Johnson back. And then let's talk about Jalen Brooks.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 8: We've mentioned him a few times on this podcast. Jalen
Speaker 8: Brooks when he was given the opportunities as a first
Speaker 8: year guy last year, seventh round pick, he showed some things.
Speaker 8: He was also one of the headliners or one of
Speaker 8: the highlights I should say, consistently in training camp last season.
Speaker 8: What does the year two leap look like for Jalen Brooks.
Speaker 8: So those are guys that are already on the roster
Speaker 8: before you went and added RF because until I get
Speaker 8: his name for Illinoy, yeah, Ilinois, Ilinoid, until you before
Speaker 8: you even add him in the draft, and before you
Speaker 8: potentially add Zay Jones to the roster, there was already
Speaker 8: a ton of competition if you're Jalen Tobert for that
Speaker 8: wide receiver three spots. So at this point, if you're
Speaker 8: Jalen Tobert, doesn't matter who else you add, because there
Speaker 8: was already such a high level of competition a lot
Speaker 8: of bodies. You just know at this point you got
Speaker 8: to go forward and you got to put the pedal
Speaker 8: to the floor.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think Sam Williams is a good example of of
Speaker 5: what the question is here when you start talking about
Speaker 5: somebody like like like Jalen Tolbert, because I think for
Speaker 5: these last couple of years he's had so there's been
Speaker 5: so much depth ahead of him, right, and the things
Speaker 5: that we saw from him that were a bit concerning
Speaker 5: were the kinds of mental mistakes that you don't want
Speaker 5: to see. And I think those veterans that were ahead
Speaker 5: of him probably gave the coaching staff a lot more
Speaker 5: comfort putting those veterans out there that they wouldn't make
Speaker 5: those kinds of mistakes. Well, now those guys have been
Speaker 5: moved out of the way. They are now in Washington,
Speaker 5: so and so now you've got an opportunity to move
Speaker 5: Sam Williams up and you get to see is he
Speaker 5: going to sink or swim? Is that talent going to
Speaker 5: shine through, which we've seen some of that, or all
Speaker 5: the mental mistakes going to shine through, which we've seen
Speaker 5: some of that. But I think it's the same thing
Speaker 5: for Tobert's going to be in a situation that's a
Speaker 5: little different from the standpoint he may have to actually,
Speaker 5: as you said, battle and prove his way into that
Speaker 5: third spot versus it'll just just being there because all
Speaker 5: the other guys have been moved out his way.
Speaker 4: They drafted that Marshanneeland too. Yeah, absolutely think about Sam
Speaker 4: Williams and what he's going to have to deal with
Speaker 4: with that Sam Sam Sam Williams can rush the passer,
Speaker 4: Marsham Kneeling can play the run. If if Marshaw Kneeling
Speaker 4: can play the run and rush the passer, Sam Williams
Speaker 4: is not gonna have a job. That's just I mean,
Speaker 4: they're gonna put the best. They're gonna put the guy
Speaker 4: on there that can do both. But I think Sam
Speaker 4: has the ability to be a better rusher right now
Speaker 4: than Neelan does. But the fact that they're trying, if
Speaker 4: they're trying to really shore up playing the run defense,
Speaker 4: Neelan's a better run defender than Sam Williams is and
Speaker 4: that's where that's the advantage to have. So Sam, there's
Speaker 4: a couple of guys, like to say, the receiver, Tolbert Williams,
Speaker 4: these guys they're on alert. I mean you could say
Speaker 4: depth and all these other things, but the organization is
Speaker 4: telling you right now what they think of your play,
Speaker 4: and so that needs to be first and foremost in
Speaker 4: these guys' minds.
Speaker 8: And make no mistake about it. Sam Williams, he feels
Speaker 8: the pressure, he understands it. Yeah, I was speaking to
Speaker 8: him after the home run derby of the Gliant home
Speaker 8: run Derby last Wednesday, I want to say and asked him,
Speaker 8: I said, what is what does year three have to
Speaker 8: look like for you? And basically he said, this year
Speaker 8: that's coming up is going to define the rest of
Speaker 8: my NFL career. His words so and it can words
Speaker 8: could not be more true, especially you talk about with
Speaker 8: Stephen was saying to one, O five three the fan
Speaker 8: listen to Stephen what he was saying in the post
Speaker 8: draft press conference. He was drawing a circle around Sam
Speaker 8: Williams and needing to see more from him. So if
Speaker 8: you're Sam Williams, you're feeling it.
Speaker 4: Fojoko too, by the way, Yeah, and maybe maybe Fo
Speaker 4: Hooko was drafted from a previous administration, So you know
Speaker 4: that's important right there. There's a fourth round pick that
Speaker 4: was selected and you know, had a rookie year that
Speaker 4: he wants to kind of forget being an active, being
Speaker 4: injured and all that. You know, his you know, there's
Speaker 4: no giving about what Mike Zimmer and those guys now,
Speaker 4: they'll coach this kid up, but he's got to be
Speaker 4: able to show. But there's another example of a fourth
Speaker 4: round guy that again previous regime. It might be that
Speaker 4: might be the big problem right there. But he's got
Speaker 4: to prove that he could play for this this crew
Speaker 4: right here.
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Speaker 5: next week on Wednesday. Is what we thought it was
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Speaker 5: but uh, but we got some some clarity on that
Speaker 5: it's gonna happen next Wednesday.
Speaker 2: I think it is.
Speaker 5: And uh, and we will have some fun goodies for
Speaker 5: you guys.
Speaker 4: For so they give you a chance to get some
Speaker 4: country performers to be involved with your videos and stuff.
Speaker 2: I'll see, we got you know what we do. It'll
Speaker 2: be it'll be some interesting it'll be just.
Speaker 9: Like the biggest deal it is for teams around the NFL,
Speaker 9: like media teams around the NFL.
Speaker 4: Some of the really creative, some of them really funny. Yeah,
Speaker 4: who was it that did the cookies one year? Was
Speaker 4: that Seattle Keys? Then Seattle Bake Cookies And then it
Speaker 4: showed up as who they were playing.
Speaker 2: Oh, I think I don't remember who did that. I
Speaker 2: remember it though, remember there was.
Speaker 4: There were some kind of funny ones that people we
Speaker 4: were doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it'll be fun. We'll we'll have we'll have
Speaker 2: some fun.
Speaker 5: We've been working on this for a few months, so
Speaker 5: it'll be fun.
Speaker 2: We get to release it next week.
Speaker 6: A few months, a few months tells you something.
Speaker 2: It'll it'll be out and uh, next what you're.
Speaker 4: Saying, Charlotte's been on your back for the last few months.
Speaker 5: They don't even have to be on my back. It's
Speaker 5: very trust me. By September of every year, I'm like,
Speaker 5: release is coming. It's literally just a is it bragging?
Speaker 13: Right?
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it is a yeah bragging right?
Speaker 5: Oka is a situation where you see your counterparts around
Speaker 5: the league they know and you know who got the
Speaker 5: better of whom.
Speaker 2: When it came to schedule release.
Speaker 4: Okay, So yeah, is there is there a is there
Speaker 4: an ultimate judge for this?
Speaker 13: No?
Speaker 4: So like like you know, like like everyone with restaurant
Speaker 4: people have Michelin Stars. Like if a restaurant gets Michelin Stars,
Speaker 4: you're known as the best. There's nothing more than nobody
Speaker 4: that says, Derek, you guys were the best today.
Speaker 5: No, everybody will judge and ultimately, ultimately we all will
Speaker 5: look at each other and will know, you know, if
Speaker 5: they got you or not.
Speaker 2: You'll know if they were better than you or not.
Speaker 2: It's it's very well.
Speaker 4: You also know if somebody didn't do a good job.
Speaker 5: Yes, you do, you just you don't want to necessarily
Speaker 5: call them out, but you know you you know, and
Speaker 5: they know that.
Speaker 2: They didn't do that good at job. They didn't really resonate.
Speaker 2: So okay, yeah, it's a it's a big dish.
Speaker 4: Can we go, like are the odds for this? Like
Speaker 4: who's going to be the best? I mean, like are
Speaker 4: the cowboys? Like? Uh, you know five to two.
Speaker 2: Were consistently among the best. I would say, but I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 4: You want to call it the one you want to
Speaker 4: do it the ones.
Speaker 9: You can let other people say that.
Speaker 2: I'm not yourself, man, I shouldn't say it.
Speaker 4: You want to call it the ones now?
Speaker 9: Will not?
Speaker 2: No, I respect all of my colleagues.
Speaker 4: If I were to you didn't do that, you walked
Speaker 4: into your So can you believe this crap? Yes?
Speaker 2: And that's what we're talking privately, not just saying you
Speaker 2: never did that.
Speaker 6: No, never, I can't believe. I'm just Kendrick Lamard. You
Speaker 6: be humble, be humble.
Speaker 5: I expect that from them. Like I said, everybody needs
Speaker 5: an amber in their life. It makes sure that you
Speaker 5: never think too highly amused. Keep amber in your life.
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 9: Also float times. Yeah, but then when you get to
Speaker 9: highest I O.
Speaker 5: I think Nick would disagree with that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, guys, all right.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about Zeke Kelly signed a one year deal.
Speaker 5: Do you guys, here's the blunt question I have for
Speaker 5: you on Week one of the NFL season, do you
Speaker 5: expect Zeke Kelly to be the starter at running back
Speaker 5: with this team?
Speaker 6: As we have this conversation, Yes, I do.
Speaker 4: I think it right now to yes, Yes, we're in
Speaker 4: number fifteen.
Speaker 2: All right, so you all agree that how concerned are
Speaker 2: you with that?
Speaker 4: Well, the thing, the thing that gives you hope there
Speaker 4: is hoping, as Amber likes to say, is that we'll
Speaker 4: see the upgrades at the tackle spot.
Speaker 6: We'll see the.
Speaker 4: Upgrades at potentially the center spot, thank you. Uh. We
Speaker 4: will see with the health of the right tackle. Need
Speaker 4: to see what the point of attack blocking looks like
Speaker 4: with the tight ends and camp and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: So uh, Dallas defense is committed now to trying to
Speaker 4: play better run defense. So you'll see some battles in
Speaker 4: training camp. If you see Dallas moving the ball on
Speaker 4: a defense, you're saying, oh, well, Dallas's defense might be
Speaker 4: in trouble, or Dallas's run offense looks a lot better
Speaker 4: as we're sitting there watching these practice.
Speaker 2: And we won't really know.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but there'll be some of those those padded
Speaker 4: practices where you'll do the nine on seven drills and
Speaker 4: all of a sudden they can't tackle Zeke or the backs,
Speaker 4: but you could see holes or you could see, man,
Speaker 4: they're getting crushed. You know, Neelan is crushing Ferguson at
Speaker 4: the point of attack or or you know, Steal. It's
Speaker 4: not looking very good handling tank right now. They're gonna
Speaker 4: the back is going to make a difference. But I
Speaker 4: think the upgrades with the offensive line could maybe mask
Speaker 4: some of the things that you might have to deal with.
Speaker 4: I still wish they had. People will tell you though,
Speaker 4: in this organization that watch Rico Daddle run and they say,
Speaker 4: you do see a physical back, but you do see
Speaker 4: some some shiftinginess to his game. So that's what I
Speaker 4: was trying to get, you know, Lloyd the kid from
Speaker 4: usc Ripe, Tennessee those guys, That's what I was kind
Speaker 4: of hopeful for. But now what I have, I'm more
Speaker 4: betting on the offensive line and the tight ends and
Speaker 4: see how the backs plug into.
Speaker 8: That perfectly stated, I wrote that exact thing or that
Speaker 8: exact line of thought in last week's Science Lab kind
Speaker 8: of reviewing or previewing the return of Ezekiel Elliot? What
Speaker 8: is the impact really mean for the running back position?
Speaker 8: So two things are true. One, I'm on the record
Speaker 8: and I'm still on this hill. I wish that they
Speaker 8: had grabbed a running back in this draft. I wanted
Speaker 8: them to tandem that rookie with Ezekiel Elliott and then
Speaker 8: mix Erico dalala Win to see how that three headed
Speaker 8: monster would work. They didn't get the draft pick, but
Speaker 8: they did sign Zeke, which was the other half of
Speaker 8: the thing I wanted them to do. Great, wonderful. Now
Speaker 8: for those that are saying, well, you know what are
Speaker 8: you getting from Zeke? First of all, you're getting short yardage.
Speaker 8: You're getting a guy who will instantly the best pass
Speaker 8: protector in your running backs room. You're getting a guy
Speaker 8: who already knows. The system knows your quarterback, will protect
Speaker 8: your quarterback quite literally with his life, knows your head coach,
Speaker 8: so forth, and so on. But I love what Brian
Speaker 8: pointed out because this year, and we talked about it
Speaker 8: a lot last year, it wasn't all on Tony Pollard,
Speaker 8: it wasn't all on Rico Dalo. As far as the
Speaker 8: running back struggles. They had their struggles, but there were
Speaker 8: times where the lanes just weren't there at being opened
Speaker 8: at the point of attack, and some of that, A
Speaker 8: lot of that goes to you the merry go round
Speaker 8: because of injuries and personnel swapping out. Fine, now we're
Speaker 8: in twenty twenty four. You add a guy like Tyler
Speaker 8: got In with your first round pick. Yes, he's going
Speaker 8: to have to go through the crash course. We'll see
Speaker 8: what that looks like. We want Cooper BB. I'm just
Speaker 8: going to presume Cooper BB is your starting center in
Speaker 8: week one. If you have that interior, we'll see what
Speaker 8: happens with got In hopefully still is feeling much better
Speaker 8: with that much time removed from his torn acl But
Speaker 8: look at this interior. It's Cooper BB, it's Zach Martin.
Speaker 8: It's Tyler Smith. Okay, if that trio can be as
Speaker 8: dominant as we believe they can be, then your running
Speaker 8: backs are going to get their yards because the lanes
Speaker 8: are going to be open. You're gonna blink. Zeke's going
Speaker 8: to be at the second level. Ricle is going to
Speaker 8: be at the second level. Then it's just on that
Speaker 8: running back to make moves in space. And I love
Speaker 8: that Brian brought up the elusiveness of Rico Dwell because
Speaker 8: it's there. He's not the archetype of Zeke as far
Speaker 8: as being able to get you that short yardage. We
Speaker 8: saw that last season, but we've seen that he can
Speaker 8: be the archetype of Tony Pollard.
Speaker 6: You get him in space. He's shifty, he's elusive, he
Speaker 6: can use some quickness.
Speaker 8: So I think a lot of the success, I know,
Speaker 8: a lot of the success of this current running back
Speaker 8: corps is not even going to be on the caliber
Speaker 8: of running back. It's going to be on the caliber
Speaker 8: of who's opening the lanes in front of them. And
Speaker 8: I think that with the Cowboys addressing that with Cooper
Speaker 8: BB and Tyler Goydon, I think they're on the right path.
Speaker 4: Be interesting to see what they do with Due's fun. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because there's the there's the shiftiness, there's the quickness, there's
Speaker 4: the maybe not the finish of you know, backs with
Speaker 4: like his speed. But you know, the one thing when
Speaker 4: you watched him play at can't say he had nowhere
Speaker 4: to go running the ball this past season. I mean
Speaker 4: and and and it's not his fault if he's getting
Speaker 4: hit at you know, at the line of scrimmature, behind
Speaker 4: the line of scrimmagine, but.
Speaker 6: Who is block and form at Cannas.
Speaker 4: Date, Oh well yeah they had no bb Yeah, they
Speaker 4: had had a physical offensive line. So yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 4: going to be I think we'll be able to tell
Speaker 4: in training camp real quick. I think we'll be able
Speaker 4: to see those those drills, the nine on seven drills,
Speaker 4: the team drills. Just watching them, you know, go through.
Speaker 4: You can see if the guys are getting movement or
Speaker 4: getting that, you know, because you have to give these
Speaker 4: backs an opportunity. And I think Ezekiel It can still
Speaker 4: run the ball, uh, but you got to give him
Speaker 4: space to get It's now he's not the twenty sixteen
Speaker 4: or twenty seventeen guy, but his determination to get yards
Speaker 4: will help you if you actually block things up front.
Speaker 8: I also had this really quickly before we have an amber.
Speaker 8: There's still some juice in Ezekiel Elliott's wheels, for lack
Speaker 8: of a better way to put it in space. If
Speaker 8: you go back and you look at that play when
Speaker 8: he was with the Patriots, the seventy yard.
Speaker 6: Swing.
Speaker 8: He turned that into a seventy yard touchdown and got
Speaker 8: called back because of a penalty on one of his
Speaker 8: offenses of lineman, I believe. But that showed me that, yeah,
Speaker 8: he's not the home run hitter that he was coming
Speaker 8: out of Ohio State or in twenty sixteen or maybe
Speaker 8: even twenty seventeen. But I think that that type of
Speaker 8: you know, play is still in the back pocket for
Speaker 8: McCarthy to pull out every once in a while to say, hey,
Speaker 8: you think that he can only do the dirty work.
Speaker 8: You catch him outside one of those swing routes and he,
Speaker 8: you know, takes it deep. I just wanted to put
Speaker 8: that out there for those that are wondering, is he
Speaker 8: only short yards? Yeah, he's still got a little bit
Speaker 8: of pep in his step.
Speaker 4: I wish they would steal the San Francisco forty nine
Speaker 4: ers passing game to backs. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: It just seems like, and I get it, McCaffrey and
Speaker 4: those guys are rare. I get it. They know how
Speaker 4: to play in space or liman, know how to get
Speaker 4: out in space and stuff like that. But man, just
Speaker 4: if you could just throw him the ball. I mean,
Speaker 4: this guy can catch the ball well and then get up.
Speaker 4: You know, when you throw it on him, he could
Speaker 4: run it. He could be tough to bring down in
Speaker 4: the open field one on one ringbacks don't want to
Speaker 4: deal with him because he's willing to put his shoulder
Speaker 4: through somebody if he has to. So, you know, if
Speaker 4: they could just steal some throw some plays of throwing
Speaker 4: the ball to backs, and I would appreciate that a
Speaker 4: lot watching them play. I think it would be something
Speaker 4: that would be beneficial to them.
Speaker 6: Absolutely.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I think something that we saw last year with Tony
Speaker 9: Polor was his lack of ability to find the holes.
Speaker 9: And I know that goes into what the old line
Speaker 9: is doing and how much they're helping you. That's the
Speaker 9: biggest thing in that. But at the same time, I
Speaker 9: remember a lot of different plays where he just really
Speaker 9: figure out where to go exactly.
Speaker 4: The indecisiveness is yeah, and you're right, because what happens
Speaker 4: is if they don't block it clean. You know, the
Speaker 4: one thing about Zeke back in the day was if
Speaker 4: you put a full back in front of him and
Speaker 4: you make Zeke have to decide because the back, the
Speaker 4: full back is not sure who he's blocking, that slows
Speaker 4: up the back and Tony did. I mean, there wasn't
Speaker 4: great blocking, but the indecisiveness. I think it's a big
Speaker 4: part of his struggles last year.
Speaker 9: And I think we've seen plays when Zeke was still
Speaker 9: here that last year. I remember seeing certain plays where
Speaker 9: it would happen to him as well, but more often
Speaker 9: than not he would find those little gaps and holes
Speaker 9: and push for those short yardish type of situations. So
Speaker 9: I'm super excited. I'm super happy. I absolutely love Zeke.
Speaker 9: I love everything about him, and I can't wait to
Speaker 9: see him here. I don't think he's over. Even with
Speaker 9: the Patriots, he had a pretty decent time over there.
Speaker 9: He played like what like five games or so, still
Speaker 9: got close to a thousand yards, and that's also part
Speaker 9: of that was in receiving, So I think six hundred
Speaker 9: and something rushing and then the rest was receiving. Yards.
Speaker 9: So he still has stuff to bring to the table,
Speaker 9: and I can't wait to see him. Clearly, he was
Speaker 9: missed last year and we saw that.
Speaker 4: I will say this though, too, I will say they've
Speaker 4: got all these fives. If we get to Oxnard and
Speaker 4: it doesn't look clean for all these guys, I'm getting
Speaker 4: on the phone and I'm gonna I'm gonna move. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna make a I'm gonna make a deal like I
Speaker 4: made for I give up a one for like what
Speaker 4: you did for a Mark Cooper. But I'm yeah, I'm
Speaker 4: giving up one of these compensatory fives. Maybe you have
Speaker 4: to overpay a little bit to go get somebody that
Speaker 4: that could fit what you're trying to do. You can't
Speaker 4: go into the season struggle and running the football. You
Speaker 4: just can't.
Speaker 2: I did did here.
Speaker 5: I'm sure you guys heard it too, Jerry said during
Speaker 5: one of the press conferences after the draft. He said,
Speaker 5: I've seen teams win Super Bowls with running backs that
Speaker 5: they picked up.
Speaker 6: During the season.
Speaker 5: During that season, and so I think in the back
Speaker 5: of their minds they're looking at it like, Okay, we're
Speaker 5: gonna throw some different options at this. We're going to
Speaker 5: see how we go. And again, to me, I think
Speaker 5: it's really that bigger perspective I mentioned earlier. I think
Speaker 5: they are I think they are taking the the yeah,
Speaker 5: but I think they're taking the opinion that if you've
Speaker 5: got all these positions, you have to address the one
Speaker 5: you can patch up the easiest is running back. So
Speaker 5: let's make sure we get the linebacker. Let's make sure
Speaker 5: we get the defensive tackle of the defensive end. Let's
Speaker 5: make sure we get a defensive tackle. They're looking at
Speaker 5: all these others in the draft, and I think when
Speaker 5: it came running back, they felt like, hey, this is
Speaker 5: an area where you look at the NFL teams have
Speaker 5: success with backup caliber running backs, with running backs that
Speaker 5: aren't the complete package, that running backs that aren't highest
Speaker 5: paid running backs in the league, they can still find
Speaker 5: success in there. And I think that's the position that
Speaker 5: they've taken.
Speaker 2: We'll see if it works.
Speaker 4: They valued in this draft stopping the run more than
Speaker 4: they did running the ball. In this way, I whan
Speaker 4: it's came to I mean, you look at with Cooper
Speaker 4: BB and stuff like that, that that helps you with
Speaker 4: the running part. But then it came down to, Okay,
Speaker 4: we've got to stop the run too, and so then
Speaker 4: you get the linebacker, you get the you know, in
Speaker 4: the second round.
Speaker 2: So and it's hard to find in their mind, it's
Speaker 2: harder to find a linebacker a running back exactly right,
Speaker 2: exactly yeah, And.
Speaker 5: So I think that's the part where it's going to
Speaker 5: be very interesting to see how this plays out for
Speaker 5: the Cowboys because this is a little different approach than
Speaker 5: what they've taken to this point. A team that's been
Speaker 5: throughout his history always had very, very high profile and
Speaker 5: successful running backs. We'll see how this approach works. We're
Speaker 5: going to take our final break. We'll come back. I
Speaker 5: want to talk a little bit about the rookie Minnie
Speaker 5: camp that's coming up, some of the guys that you
Speaker 5: guys expect to see out here, and we'll have a
Speaker 5: couple questions for you guys on this rookie class.
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Speaker 5: by LG. Let's talk about the Rookie Minni camp. Obviously,
Speaker 5: the guys will start arriving I think as early as.
Speaker 2: Today maybe someone.
Speaker 5: But the actually the time that they will spend to
Speaker 5: you guys will get with them. I want some private
Speaker 5: time on Thursday, but Friday and Saturday the rest of
Speaker 5: the meeting will have an opportunity to be able to
Speaker 5: meet with them. As we start getting into these practices,
Speaker 5: obviously there's not a lot going on.
Speaker 4: I miss the Jason Garrett practices where he made Des
Speaker 4: Bryant throw it right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it used to be a challenge of Will's right.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: What what do you guys look for when you out
Speaker 5: here watching this? Is there anything that you look at like?
Speaker 5: I just want to see this when I when I
Speaker 5: get a chance to actually see them in person, I think.
Speaker 4: The thing that I always look for is where are
Speaker 4: they thinking about lining these guys up, Okay, figure out, Okay,
Speaker 4: where did they see Marshaan Neeland? Where do they see uh,
Speaker 4: you know Maris. Where do they see the you know
Speaker 4: the Bbie in center guard where you.
Speaker 2: Just what the initial thoughts, the initial thought, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Are they running with it? You know, probably most of
Speaker 4: them are going to be running with second or third
Speaker 4: team guys initially. I mean it's by themselves, right, so
Speaker 4: so it'll be the rookies by themselves. But you'll probably
Speaker 4: be in a situation where you're see like where they
Speaker 4: have an idea of that. And I when they do
Speaker 4: kind of move guys around, like you know with Kaitlin
Speaker 4: Carson the corner, I'm interested in seeing like his movement skills,
Speaker 4: like if they do him running through drills, the feet
Speaker 4: look quick, his ability to turn. You know, these guys
Speaker 4: probably are not in great shape when after these camps over,
Speaker 4: after all that, everybody gets to go home and these
Speaker 4: guys have to stay. Yeah, and then that's where you
Speaker 4: kind of that's where these guys get back into football shape.
Speaker 4: Emandy Johnson's a free agent that they got undrafted free agents,
Speaker 4: a safety that I'm really excited about because I saw
Speaker 4: him play at Nevada and he's a guy that probably
Speaker 4: should have been drafted. So I'm kind of interested in
Speaker 4: some of these undrafted guys and then and then where
Speaker 4: they're going to line up the guys that were drafted.
Speaker 4: That's that's what's always fascinating to me.
Speaker 8: And in great points as far as because it is
Speaker 8: walkthroughs basically, so the most we can take away from
Speaker 8: the media portion is where they line this player up
Speaker 8: versus that player and how they're you know, rotating him. So,
Speaker 8: like you said, when you talk about Cooper Bebe, is
Speaker 8: he already starting out as a center or are they
Speaker 8: trying him at guard first and then kind of moving
Speaker 8: from there. But I'm also right there with Brian as well.
Speaker 8: So first I'll say this, I'm also looking at the players,
Speaker 8: the rookies' physical stature, like what kind of shape are
Speaker 8: they showing up for, right, because that's going to be
Speaker 8: key because obviously not necessarily a red flag on any
Speaker 8: of these rookies the Cowboys have, but there were some
Speaker 8: prospects going into the draft where you know, red flag
Speaker 8: was that, oh, well, they put on too much weight
Speaker 8: or they're gaining weight at the wrong time. Just want
Speaker 8: to see these guys come in in shape. Want to
Speaker 8: see them come in ready to learn, ready to go.
Speaker 6: And I'm really, like.
Speaker 8: I was saying about Brian's point, I'm really looking at
Speaker 8: these undrafted free agents because I'm wondering because the Cowboys
Speaker 8: typically do well in undrafted free agency. So I'm trying
Speaker 8: to figure out effect of this weekend, who will stand
Speaker 8: out the most in the pool of twelve to thirteen
Speaker 8: undrafted free agents?
Speaker 6: Who can make some waves.
Speaker 8: Can Nathaniel Pete, the loaned running back that was signed
Speaker 8: an undraft free agency? Can he make a little bit
Speaker 8: of waves make things hard for someone like Snoop Connor,
Speaker 8: Royce Freeman, maybe Milie Davis, we don't know yet, maybe
Speaker 8: Ducevon we'll see. But then Jason Johnson, He's a good one.
Speaker 8: Denzel Dockson is one that I'm looking at out of Illinois.
Speaker 8: We are keyed in on this defensive tackle situation. I
Speaker 8: think the Cowboys are still open to bringing in the
Speaker 8: veteran in free agency. I've said that, but when you
Speaker 8: look at what they got in Justin Rodgers seventh round pick.
Speaker 8: Still need some polish, but Justin Rogers versus Denzel Dockson,
Speaker 8: you got two big defensive tackles that are gonna put
Speaker 8: themselves on the field this weekend. So just interested to
Speaker 8: see things like that, and for me, really above all,
Speaker 8: I want to see if any of these undrafted rookies
Speaker 8: can really start to stand out quickly.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'll be honest, personally, I don't get as much
Speaker 9: as like what happens on the field, like you know,
Speaker 9: to me, I prefer I love mini camp actual mini
Speaker 9: camp born. You get to see the veterans blended with
Speaker 9: the rookies, can see the rookies body type, how they
Speaker 9: kind of fit in and look merged with the veterans.
Speaker 9: So that's my favorite part. But from this session rookie
Speaker 9: mini caamp, what I like the most honestly is when
Speaker 9: we get the chance to talk to them and meet
Speaker 9: them and hear them. And that's what do I like,
Speaker 9: You do I not, you know, That's what it's for
Speaker 9: me to get the vibe more often they're not than
Speaker 9: not they're.
Speaker 2: They're always exactly you know.
Speaker 9: But that's that's my favorite part of this weekend is
Speaker 9: just getting their vibes. And usually they're always very very happy,
Speaker 9: you know, they just got drafted by the Cowboys or
Speaker 9: signed by the Cowboys and they're here and they're usually
Speaker 9: with a great attitude. But it's that's my favorite part.
Speaker 9: And now I've changed my tune on a lot of things,
Speaker 9: and I probably come off as a very judgy person
Speaker 9: on this show and I'm not. This is just no,
Speaker 9: this is just about football and stuff. But stop, I
Speaker 9: am not. Oh my gosh. Anyways, but again, I tell
Speaker 9: this story and I love it because when I first
Speaker 9: met throw On Bland and I've said this on the
Speaker 9: show before, it was Rucky minicamp and we got to
Speaker 9: talk to him and I got to talk to him
Speaker 9: one and one and he was so shy and such
Speaker 9: a baby face. I'm just like, I hate saying this,
Speaker 9: but in my head, I'm like, Okay, what is this
Speaker 9: guy gonna do?
Speaker 6: Like on the field?
Speaker 9: Boy did he proved my judgmental here has been absolutely amazing.
Speaker 9: But it's one of those things that it's it's just
Speaker 9: fun to get to know the player and.
Speaker 8: You know who's probably gonna throw off a little bit
Speaker 8: in that capacity. And I know we talk a lot
Speaker 8: about Cooper Bebe, but it's justifiable. But his demeanor, like
Speaker 8: off the field, he's kind of like Jovia he's smoking
Speaker 8: with jovial, the innocent smile, but they're looking his eyes.
Speaker 8: There's a killer in those eyes, man, And when the
Speaker 8: ball gets after he is just something different. But yeah,
Speaker 8: that's a good point. I mean, and I do love
Speaker 8: when mini camp does roll around. That's when it's really
Speaker 8: going to start to hit home for these rookies. Like
Speaker 8: right now, they're going to come in this weekend and
Speaker 8: it's you know, they're riding high and they're ampt and they're.
Speaker 6: Ready to go.
Speaker 8: When the veterans start coming in and they start commingling
Speaker 8: with veterans and the standard starts to get set, that's
Speaker 8: really when you start to be able to tell who's
Speaker 8: going to start to kind of pull away from the
Speaker 8: rest of the rookie back.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Part of that is you start realizing there are no
Speaker 5: free reps in the NFL. Right in college there are
Speaker 5: a lot of guys that are going to be selling
Speaker 5: insurance once they're done playing college football. Everybody out here
Speaker 5: is a baller, and I know people give them a
Speaker 5: hard time with your third string whatever, but they're a
Speaker 5: professional and there's a reason why they're professional. So there
Speaker 5: are no easy wins out here on the NFL football.
Speaker 6: Field, and you were brought in to take their job exactly.
Speaker 2: So it is a challenge.
Speaker 5: Definitely is a challenge mentally and physically. All Right, we
Speaker 5: appreciate you guys, you doing it. We'll be back next week.
Speaker 5: We'll tell you what happened at the mini camp, if
Speaker 5: there is anything that came out of the mini camp,
Speaker 5: and then we'll also get into some other topics.
Speaker 2: We'll actually start a little bit of a review here
Speaker 2: the next week.
Speaker 5: We only have I think four more episodes before we
Speaker 5: take our little hiatus for the summer.
Speaker 2: Amber's excited, and so.
Speaker 5: We'll get into a little bit of a bigger picture
Speaker 5: to look at a lot of different positions around this
Speaker 5: team and kind of can set you guys up what
Speaker 5: training camp will look like. Till then, for Patrick Walker,
Speaker 5: Brian brought us an Ama Garcia. I'm Derek Eagleton. This
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