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Speaker 2: It is Tuesday night, November tenth, the Year of Our

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Speaker 2: Lord twenty twenty. I'm scrolling even as we come on here.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to find out if something got canceled in

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Speaker 2: the time that I walked from the break room into

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Speaker 2: the studio. Hey, nevertheless, the show's not canceled. Happy to

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Speaker 2: have you with us, we believe it or not. We

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Speaker 2: were jam packed because Tuesday night is prediction night around here.

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Speaker 1: We're still sort of jam packed.

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Speaker 2: Could be one of the shorter shows that we've done,

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Speaker 2: but then again, I said that a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: and we went forty seven minutes. So we're gonna be

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Speaker 2: here sometime between five minutes and an hour tonight. We

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Speaker 2: have a slightly modified show, so I remind you subscribe

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Speaker 2: on Twitter at Late Kick Josh. Just a few few

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Speaker 2: hours ago, I put out another one of our five

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Speaker 2: best bets on the Rama Noodle Express and this has

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Speaker 2: been a very emotional day for Colin and I not

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Speaker 2: just because games are being canceled, but if you know

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Speaker 2: anything about me, you know that I grew up a

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Speaker 2: huge fan of trains. Up to this very moment, I

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Speaker 2: love trains. That is the very reason why we named

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Speaker 2: our best bet segment the Rama Noodle Express and our

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Speaker 2: buddies over at NCAAF Nation twenty four to seven, they

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Speaker 2: got kind of creative on Twitter earlier, Colin, do you

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Speaker 2: have that picture actually that they put up a little

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Speaker 2: while ago. I grew up a huge fan of Thomas

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Speaker 2: the Tank Engine. And if you would have told me

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Speaker 2: at any point in my life that a fan, a

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Speaker 2: viewer of mine, whatever capacity, was going to put my

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Speaker 2: face on the front of a train, I don't care

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Speaker 2: if there were package dry noodles associated with it. I

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Speaker 2: would have thought no amount of salary, no amount of money,

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Speaker 2: would ever be equal to that. Today, as far as

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Speaker 2: I'm concerned, Colin, we made it. The show made it,

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Speaker 2: and if you're listening to the podcast, I would strongly

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Speaker 2: recommend that you go watch the version on YouTube, just

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Speaker 2: this once, and you can look at the beauty that

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Speaker 2: might as well be hung in the loover at this

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Speaker 2: point that we're showing on screen now, So thank you

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Speaker 2: guys for that, And I would not mind at all

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Speaker 2: if that became a trend. I'm not stopping you. In fact,

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Speaker 2: I'll probably show.

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Speaker 1: It on the air.

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Speaker 2: So we've got to talk mood Tracker tonight we're going

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Speaker 2: to do that. We're going to talk about all of

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Speaker 2: the juicy details coming out of Georgia practice. Could it

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Speaker 2: be this week that finally JT. Daniels gets the start? Well,

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Speaker 2: that's the second question. The first question is could it

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Speaker 2: be the Georgia plays a football game? Could they be

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Speaker 2: the rarity? Could be could they be the peacock in

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Speaker 2: the SEC that actually finds a way to play a

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Speaker 2: football game this Saturday South Carolina Old Miss. They haven't

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Speaker 2: been canceled yet, So I'm going to get to the

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Speaker 2: postponmits momentarily. Also, we're going to revisit one of the

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Speaker 2: great questions that was given to us this morning on

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Speaker 2: the Lake Kick Extra podcast.

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Speaker 1: Listen to that if you haven't already. We're back to

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Speaker 1: our normal schedule.

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Speaker 2: Our buddy Otto, who's a frequent contributor, he gave a

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Speaker 2: great question. It was a few days ago, so I

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Speaker 2: don't know, no more than two years ago because it

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Speaker 2: So far, I don't see that that game has been postponed,

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Speaker 2: But as for one of the games that hasn't been postponed,

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Speaker 1: They just lost to Florida.

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Speaker 2: The mentality We're going to talk about Georgia in a

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Speaker 2: little while on the mood Tracker two. And so Kirby Smart,

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Speaker 2: that momentarily. Here's the counter argument. What if Kirby Smart

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Speaker 2: about Jim Harbaugh not doing that, well, what if Kirby

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Speaker 2: But let's just play Devil's advocate. What if he did?

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Speaker 1: Because I'm want to ask you one question, Just change

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Speaker 2: What if JT or what if what if Jamie Newman

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Speaker 2: Would you go out and hit the transfer market hard

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Speaker 2: So he made the switch, okay, and he made the

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Speaker 1: You lose Spring, which everyone did.

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Speaker 2: I get that, but you were asking a much bigger

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Speaker 2: Like Alabama's already gonna do their thing offensively because that's

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Speaker 2: already what they were. You were asking Georgia to evolve

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Speaker 2: and your Kurby smart and you're sitting here watching and

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Speaker 2: maybe you still think, Okay, but I still got a

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Speaker 1: Them if the worst were to happen.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, then you get into the summer and here

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Speaker 2: at least two of those prongs are now out. Quarterbacks out,

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Speaker 2: and you lost Spring, and so now what are we

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Speaker 2: If I'm Kirby Smart and we told you at the time.

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Speaker 2: I remember doing the segment back in August when we

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Speaker 2: Remember, you're gonna make the quarterback room too crowded, You're

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Speaker 2: But the second point that we made that night was

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Speaker 2: I meant when I said, well, that's that was George's

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Speaker 2: Kirby Smart's about to look at the defense he has

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Speaker 2: and say, you know what, let's wing it anyway offensively.

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Speaker 1: He just wasn't going to do that. What would you

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Speaker 2: Say you were fully committed to making changes offensively to

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Speaker 1: What would you have done?

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Speaker 2: So I keep asking folks that in my DMS, I

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Speaker 2: keep asking a lot of you that, and I've got

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Speaker 2: start Stetson Bennett. If I need to take you back

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Speaker 2: Daniels has been taking first team reps at practice this week.

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Speaker 2: Number One, you got a guy running a program, and

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Speaker 2: There are reasons why guys are on the field, and

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Speaker 1: But there's a lot more to it than that.

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Speaker 2: Everyone on our rankings council would tell you there's a

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Speaker 2: what you're insinuating is he's ready to play. Okay, I

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Speaker 2: have flatly told you from everyone I've talked to it Georgia,

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Speaker 2: Daniels, according to this mentality, has been ready to play,

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Speaker 1: What sense would that ever make? What sense would it?

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Speaker 2: And I know it's coming if there's a legitimate performance

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Speaker 2: So right now, I played the devil's advocate. That kind

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Speaker 2: As I have frequently explained, but it's been as he

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Speaker 1: Look, I can see Atlanta from here. This is how

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're a construction worker. You don't have to

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Speaker 2: So you got time to enjoy and then drive home

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Speaker 2: Come early November, these are pretty good times for Florida

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Speaker 1: Be right now.

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Speaker 1: He's been there a while.

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Speaker 2: They just beat number one Clemson, and so you would

439
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Speaker 2: think that they're ecstatic, and they are, and they.

440
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Speaker 1: Storm the field the other night.

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Speaker 2: But I've been around the Notre Dame fan base this

442
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Speaker 2: week and I've read a lot and I've observed a lot,

443
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Speaker 2: and it seems a whole lot more business as usual

444
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Speaker 2: than you would expect. I think that's due to a

445
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Speaker 2: few things. Again, there was a lot of excitement the

446
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Speaker 2: other night. Colin's showing you the pictures right now. They

447
00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,320
Speaker 2: storm the field and so everyone's elated. Okay, that's a

448
00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,120
Speaker 2: huge win, make no mistake about it. Highest rated game

449
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Speaker 2: of the year on TV. But the general sense I

450
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Speaker 2: get with Notre Dame is they know there's still plenty

451
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Speaker 2: of work to do. And also there's this other thing.

452
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Speaker 2: It's not at the forefront, but it's in the very

453
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Speaker 2: back of their mind. They know they beat a somewhat

454
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Speaker 2: hobbled Clemson team. Now, that doesn't take away the value

455
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Speaker 2: of the win at all to me, nor does it

456
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Speaker 2: to them. But what it does is when, especially when

457
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Speaker 2: you know you got to play him again to get

458
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Speaker 2: where you want to go. You know that, well, you're

459
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Speaker 2: going to face a team that has Trevor Lawrence probably

460
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Speaker 2: starting at quarterback. Don't know how big a difference that

461
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Speaker 2: would have made the other night leangol Le played out

462
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Speaker 2: of his mind. But you also consider that you're probably

463
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Speaker 2: gonna face a healthier Clemson defense, and I think that

464
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Speaker 2: will make a difference. But you also know you didn't

465
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Speaker 2: play perfect football the other night. So once you start

466
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Speaker 2: drilling down into the granular, finer details of that matchup

467
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Speaker 2: and the rest of your season, you realize we're still

468
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Speaker 2: in the heat of battle right now. They got to

469
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Speaker 2: play Boston College Saturday. They're not even favored by two touchdowns.

470
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Speaker 2: Like they're gonna have some competitive games here. I'm gonna

471
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Speaker 2: show you Thursday what our model thinks about that game.

472
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Speaker 2: But that make no mistake, that's a losable game. They

473
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Speaker 2: are not dynamic at quarterback enough, even though Ian Book's

474
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Speaker 2: coming off the game of his life to take any

475
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Speaker 2: of these games for granted. So you gotta be business

476
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Speaker 2: as usual at this point. I think even the fan

477
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Speaker 2: base probably feels a lot like the players and coaches do.

478
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Speaker 1: So they know.

479
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Speaker 2: Fortunately, just like Florida, they still got everything in front

480
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Speaker 2: of them. You can enjoy the view, but also keep

481
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Speaker 2: your nose down. Penn State not so much. Penn State

482
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Speaker 2: is in funhouse mode. I had to think for a

483
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Speaker 2: second on this one. Penn State is like in another

484
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Speaker 2: reality right now. If you've ever been to a carnival,

485
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Speaker 2: if you've ever been to a fair, and you've walked

486
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Speaker 2: in a funhouse, it's really weird. Some of you are

487
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Speaker 2: anti clown. I'm not necessarily pro clown, but I don't

488
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Speaker 2: believe that outside of the ones and are you afraid

489
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Speaker 2: of the Dark? Formerly great show on Nickelodeon, I don't

490
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Speaker 2: believe they're actually capable of doing you harm. So I'll

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Speaker 2: go in a funhouse. But when you go in a funhouse,

492
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Speaker 2: nothing looks right. You don't look right because every mirror

493
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Speaker 2: that you look into is oblong and it's weirdly shaped,

494
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Speaker 2: so it makes you look really wide, really tall, and

495
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Speaker 2: no one just looks normal.

496
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Speaker 1: And that is Penn State football. This year.

497
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Speaker 2: There were high hopes. Next to Ohio State, there was

498
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Speaker 2: no reason to believe there was a better equipped team

499
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Speaker 2: to contend in the Big Ten than Penn State.

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Speaker 1: And now we got an opt out here and we

501
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Speaker 1: got an injury there. But that's okay.

502
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Speaker 2: I mean James Franklin and this staff, we trust him

503
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Speaker 2: to put a product on the field. Indiana boom, Ohio

504
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Speaker 2: State boom, Maryland boom, boom boom. Got to do more

505
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Speaker 2: than one boom when you get blown out by Maryland

506
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Speaker 2: in football, not lacrosse football. Maryland just housed them, just

507
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Speaker 2: pants them right there on TV Saturday.

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Speaker 1: What's Penn State? Where are we? Where is the real

509
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Speaker 1: Penn State? That's what you got to be thinking. You're

510
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Speaker 1: walking through the funhouse, and here's a version of me

511
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Speaker 1: that's ten feet tall, and here's a version of me

512
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Speaker 1: that's ten feet wide. Where's the version of me that's.

513
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Speaker 2: Supposed to win thirty eight to nineteen or thirty five

514
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Speaker 2: nineteen against Maryland, whatever the score was. We just want normalcy.

515
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Speaker 2: And so here's the one good thing about a funhouse.

516
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Speaker 2: The one good thing about a funhouse, if you've ever

517
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Speaker 2: been in one, is at least you know once you

518
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Speaker 2: walk out of it, once you walk past that exit sign,

519
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Speaker 2: you're good to go and everything's normal again. You can

520
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Speaker 2: only hope if you're a Penn State fan if you're

521
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Speaker 2: James Franklin, if you're inside that program, you can only

522
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Speaker 2: hope that once you exit twenty twenty everything's back to normal.

523
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Speaker 2: And there's no real way to know that until you

524
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Speaker 2: get to the twenty twenty one season. But it's been

525
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Speaker 2: a nightmare so far this year for them.

526
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Speaker 1: And now they got.

527
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Speaker 2: Nebraska this week, and I want you to think about this,

528
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Speaker 2: and I was very proud of them. I was fully

529
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Speaker 2: on board with it. Nebraska was very vocal about wanting

530
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Speaker 2: a season to happen. Penn State likewise, very vocal about

531
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Speaker 2: wanting a season to happen.

532
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Speaker 1: What kind of odds could I have gotten.

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Speaker 2: That by the time those two teams play and they

534
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Speaker 2: play Saturday, they would have been a combined zero and five.

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Speaker 1: They haven't want to get someone's win in Saturday.

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Speaker 2: If they play that much, I can shake the magic

537
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Speaker 2: eight ball and tell you so someone's coming away with

538
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Speaker 2: a win. But wow, it's just crazy times in college

539
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Speaker 2: football in the Big Ten. And lastly, we wrap it

540
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Speaker 2: all the way back around and we go to Georgia.

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Speaker 2: Georgia is an apply pressure mode. If you've ever cut

542
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Speaker 2: somewhere close to the carotid artery, you know and I

543
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Speaker 2: am not a doctor, trust me, but even I know,

544
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Speaker 2: even I've watched enough sebuster Sloan movies to know you

545
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Speaker 2: got to apply immediate pressure. You got to stop the bleeding.

546
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Speaker 2: And that's kind of where Georgia is right now. This

547
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Speaker 2: is not a disaster of a season. It's only a

548
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Speaker 2: disaster if you have the highest of high expectations, which

549
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Speaker 2: they do. Penn State would trade places with Notre Dame

550
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Speaker 2: or with a Georgia in a New York minute. That

551
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Speaker 2: trade with Notre Dame too, obviously, So you just got

552
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Speaker 2: to stop the bleeding. The world is not coming to

553
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Speaker 2: an end. However, here's what the concern is. The concern is,

554
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Speaker 2: can we stop the bleeding? Can we just make this

555
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Speaker 2: a twenty twenty thing? We lost to Alabama? Hey, everyone

556
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Speaker 2: loses to Alabama. We lost to Florida. Well, it was

557
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Speaker 2: going to happen eventually. I mean, even the best runs

558
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 2: that we've ever had in the industry of that series,

559
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 2: we don't win fifteen in a row. I mean, eventually

560
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Speaker 2: they're going to get one. Do they just get one

561
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Speaker 2: or is it them starting their own string? Because we

562
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Speaker 2: got to get quarterback. As we just talked about, Ad

563
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 2: nauseum figured out, and we got to get healthy because

564
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 2: we were all kinds of banged up right now. First

565
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Speaker 2: thing is, we got to make sure we finish the

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Speaker 2: rest of the season. Georgia's got very winnable games. In fact,

567
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Speaker 2: let me pull this.

568
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Speaker 1: Up while we're on the air, and I've got a

569
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Speaker 1: laptop in front of me.

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Speaker 2: Georgia right now is looking at a trip to Missouri,

571
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Speaker 2: and then they have got Mississippi State at home, and

572
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Speaker 2: then they got a trip to South Carolina, and then

573
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Speaker 2: they got Vanderbilt at home. Those are four opponents they'll

574
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Speaker 2: be favored by double digits against. They should go four

575
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Speaker 2: and zero to end the year, and I don't think

576
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Speaker 2: anyone's arguing with that. So the first thing first ken

577
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Speaker 2: stop in the bleeding. It just make sure you win

578
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Speaker 2: the games you're supposed to win. They've lost to, as

579
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Speaker 2: far as I can tell right now currently probably the

580
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Speaker 2: two best teams in the conference. And if A and

581
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Speaker 2: M wants to argue, I would gladly listen. But they've

582
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Speaker 2: lost to two of the best three in the conference.

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Speaker 2: Let's say, don't start bleeding, and recruiting don't start bleeding,

584
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Speaker 2: and transfers don't start bleeding more in losing games. Now

585
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Speaker 2: that you are a definitive favorite in as long as

586
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Speaker 2: you can manage and maintain that, you'll be okay come

587
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, when again hopefully every finger crossed again,

588
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Speaker 2: everything's back to normal. Moving on, I was recording the

589
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Speaker 2: Late Kick Extra podcast this morning, and what that is

590
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Speaker 2: for those of you who are new and we have

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Speaker 2: new viewers every single week and listeners. Since we're talking

592
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Speaker 2: about a podcast, is I do two times a week

593
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Speaker 2: just a mail bag. It's all listener Q and A

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Speaker 2: so on Tuesday morning and Thursday morning. If you subscribe

595
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Speaker 2: to the Late Kick podcast, it's only on podcasts. We

596
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Speaker 2: don't put it on the YouTube channel. You can submit

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Speaker 2: questions and I try and answer in rapid fire succession

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Speaker 2: as many of them as I can. You can find

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Speaker 2: me Josh paid seven zero six at gmail dot com.

600
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Speaker 2: You can follow me on Twitter, which I advise you

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Speaker 2: to do anyway at Latekickjosh, and you can send me

602
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Speaker 2: a DM there. So this morning I'm recording and Atto

603
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Speaker 2: sent us a great question. It was a few days

604
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Speaker 2: old because I hadn't recorded one in a little while.

605
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Speaker 2: Election week threw us all off, and so I'm recording

606
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Speaker 2: this morning in Otto, who was a longtime friend at

607
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Speaker 2: the program. He said, imagine, I'm paraphrasinghim, imagine writing a

608
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Speaker 2: letter to yourself in August. So I'm right here now

609
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Speaker 2: and I'm writing a letter to myself in the past.

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Speaker 2: He said, what has happened that you'd like to warn

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Speaker 2: yourself about? And so I thought I was going to

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Speaker 2: be able to get it in in like two minutes.

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Speaker 2: I ended up going fourteen and a half minutes this

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Speaker 2: morning on this. And if you want to hear that answer,

615
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Speaker 2: you can go listen to the podcast. But I just

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Speaker 2: kind of want to reiterate it because the more I

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Speaker 2: thought through it, the more I said, this is a segment,

618
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Speaker 2: especially because we got all these games postponed, this is

619
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Speaker 2: a segment you can think right along with me. I

620
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Speaker 2: was doing a consultation with someone last night whose name

621
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Speaker 2: is Richeler. By the way, what a name, Richler? And

622
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Speaker 2: that's the that's the one his mom gave him. He

623
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Speaker 2: didn't even have to pick that Richler. And I was

624
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Speaker 2: talking to him about this, and I was talking to

625
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Speaker 2: some other folks about this this week, about you know,

626
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 2: you gotta be able to pivot. You can't be married

627
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Speaker 2: to your preseason predictions. You gotta be in tune with

628
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 2: the subcurrent and the undercurrent of college football.

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Speaker 1: You got to know what people are thinking.

630
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 2: You got to know what fan bases are saying, and

631
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 2: especially this year more than ever, you got to just

632
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 2: be on your toes. Because the first thing that I

633
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Speaker 2: would warn myself about in August is make sure that

634
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Speaker 2: you require double validation for this year. We didn't have

635
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 2: to wait long for this principle, this theory. If you

636
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 2: will to be in play, remember week one? Where were you?

637
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 1: When? Where were you when Mike Leach went.

638
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 2: Into Baton Rouge and took down LSU in overwhelming fashion.

639
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 2: I mean they drowned. I mean it was forty four

640
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 2: to thirty four. kJ Costello has the Heisman wrapped up.

641
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Speaker 2: After Week one, he threw for the better part of

642
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 2: a mile. It seemed like on that Bopolini secondary, which

643
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 2: we were told was in better shape than last year,

644
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 2: how's that gone? And so there you were right there

645
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 2: in the front seat with Geena Davis and with Susan

646
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Speaker 2: Sarandon and it's the final scene in Thoma and Louise

647
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Speaker 2: and there you are putting the pedal to the floorboard,

648
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Speaker 2: driving straight off the cliff, hands in the air.

649
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Speaker 1: Mike Leech has got every one of you.

650
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Speaker 2: And then Week two happened, and then week three happened,

651
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Speaker 2: and then week four happened.

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Speaker 1: Now I didn't fall for that one.

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Speaker 2: Fortunately a lot of you did, though, And so rest

654
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Speaker 2: in peace to your preseason predictions there in your week

655
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Speaker 2: one predictions. But that's okay because I was gotten a

656
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 2: few weeks later by Michigan. I so proudly and staunchly

657
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 2: even sat here right at this desk after Michigan went

658
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 2: into Minneapolis as just a short three point favorite and

659
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 2: they took down Minnesota PJ Fleck and that very undermanned

660
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Speaker 2: defensive front.

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Speaker 1: Shn should have known better, Richard.

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00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 2: Marks, but I didn't, And so I actually put a

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Speaker 2: video out that I have not deleted against my better

664
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Speaker 2: judgment from the twenty four to seven Sports YouTube channel,

665
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Speaker 2: and Colin, if you'll remember, the thumbnail says the new Michigan,

666
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Speaker 2: the new Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So then Week two happened, and then Michigan State happened,

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Speaker 2: and then last week, week three happened, and then Indiana happened.

670
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Speaker 2: And while the Michigan State result, you could say, all right,

671
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 2: we got a perfect storm of a letdown situation and

672
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: a rivalry game and just everything goes wrong.

673
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Speaker 1: Indiana just owned them.

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00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 2: Like Indiana, it was almost like watching Alabama play South

675
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Speaker 2: Carolina or someone like that and Bama gets out to

676
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 2: their big lead and then backups are in and Carolina, oh,

677
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 2: they got to chip away here there, but then you know,

678
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: Bama puts up another touchdown. It's it's like that's Indiana

679
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 2: toyed with Michigan the other day. Indiana took their wide

680
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: receivers and their quarterback Poenix and they just just bail

681
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: out throw after bailout throw. I mean, it was very simple.

682
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Speaker 2: There was nothing too complex about what they did. Because

683
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Speaker 2: that's how you attack Michigan. It's literally an attack. It's

684
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 2: a psychological attack at this point when you throw at

685
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Speaker 2: Michigan's corners because it's rough, it's rough. You see this cantina,

686
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: this canteena had more pass breakups than Michigan's DB's did Saturday.

687
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Speaker 2: Tried to get the props involved whenever I can, and

688
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Speaker 2: so that leads me to my second point. My second

689
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Speaker 2: thing that I would advise myself in August is be

690
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Speaker 2: aware that they're gonna be wet fuses, and you don't

691
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Speaker 2: know where they're going to be.

692
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Speaker 1: It could be where you least suspected.

693
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Speaker 2: If you've ever tried to light a wet fuse, it's pointless,

694
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Speaker 2: totally pointless, doesn't matter if you take a blowtords to it.

695
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Speaker 2: You're not lighting a wet fuse. And the season, as

696
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 2: it turns out, was already doomed. Penn State. I go

697
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 2: back to the Niitney Lyons, perfect example of a team

698
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: that for whatever reason, could be a million different reasons.

699
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 2: It has become obvious that COVID nineteen, even though it

700
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: did proportionately impact the sport. Hey, everyone in the Big

701
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: ten largely has dealt with the same thing. You largely

702
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 2: got the same amount of spring practices in you found

703
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: out the schedules at the same time you had the

704
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 2: same amount of fall practices. So it stands to reason

705
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 2: you could, from a very broad fifty thousand foot perspective, say,

706
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 2: there's going to be no excuses here because everyone's dealt

707
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Speaker 2: with it, and so since everything is equal relatively speaking,

708
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 2: the expectation level and the comparative analysis should be no

709
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 2: different than the regular season. You could say that I

710
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 2: just don't buy it. The more we've got into it,

711
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 2: you have the wet fuse theory, as I like to

712
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: call it, starting this morning, in effect to the point

713
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 2: where COVID has so disproportionately impacted some programs relative to others.

714
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 2: Is it an excuse? I guess I just think it's

715
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: a valid excuse. How else do you explain what's happening

716
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 2: with Penn State? How else do you explain that? How

717
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 2: do the else do you look at a team that

718
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 2: would otherwise be equipped to do pretty good things this year?

719
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 2: They can't even get off the ground. That is the

720
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: definition of a wet fuse. Actually, it's just click click.

721
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 2: We can't light it, Dad, we can't light it. Did

722
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 2: you buy us bad fireworks? I knew they were discounted

723
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: for a reason. We can't light the fireworks like that

724
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 2: is Penn State right now. And so that leads me

725
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Speaker 2: to my third point. And the third point is self.

726
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 2: I'm writing to myself, remember self back in August. Make

727
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 2: sure before you get into the heat of battle, and

728
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: make sure before your emotions take over. So it's August

729
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 2: for the season, make sure you define the maximum weight

730
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty college football season, because what you

731
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 2: don't want to do is you don't want to go

732
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 2: and get out into the season, and then all of

733
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 2: a sudden, you're making snap judgments every week because you've

734
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 2: got wet fuses all over the plays, and so you've

735
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 2: got some teams that look horrible, and you're going to

736
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 2: be ready to cast to get the entire coaching staff

737
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 2: after week two or week three.

738
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Speaker 1: You got to define what's the maximum weight.

739
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Speaker 2: So if youve got a scale of zero to ten

740
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 2: normal season, the maximum could be ten. Let's say in August,

741
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 2: I decide all right with all the external factors in place,

742
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: opt outs and otherwise, some players have been sick, some

743
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 2: quarterbacks have been quarantined. Coaching staff and players families are

744
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 2: dealing with all kinds of issues that you don't even

745
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 2: know about because they're not public. There are so many

746
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: external factors that are unique one time deals, never going

747
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 2: to deal with them again. Don't hold the sport to

748
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: the same caliber standard that you normally do. Let's say

749
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: the maximum weight that I'm going to give this season

750
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 2: is a six, Well, that probably means it's going to

751
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 2: take drastic, drastically bad results for me to ever call

752
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: anyone a hot seat candidate this year. That's where I

753
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 2: am with James Franklin. I mean, at this normal year,

754
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: this would be totally different. But I'm not there with him.

755
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 2: I'm not there with Harbaugh, even though a lot of

756
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: you Michigan folks are, and I understand in your mind

757
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: it extends well before twenty twenty. I don't think many

758
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: people were there before twenty twenty with James Franklin. So

759
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 2: my philosophy on that is, if I wasn't already there before,

760
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 2: I'm probably not going to allow myself to be there afterwards.

761
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 2: I think the one exception, if you've watched the show regularly,

762
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: the one exception has been Tom Herman. There's a little

763
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 2: bit of hypocrisy already. I wrote it down. It's giant

764
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 2: caps letters here, hypocrisy. I'm gonna give myself one out there,

765
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: because what I believe about Herman and Texas I think

766
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 2: also extends before this. However, if you wanted to debate

767
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 2: me on that, and you wanted to throw my own

768
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 2: theories back in my face, I wouldn't be able to

769
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 2: push back against it too hard, or else I'd sound

770
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 2: like a politician. I mean, I could do it, trust me,

771
00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: I could. I took several debate classes, but yeah, outside

772
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 2: of Tom Herman and Texas, I think most of that applies.

773
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 2: And I'm not going past to six on the waiting

774
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 2: of this year. But a lot of you put in

775
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 2: the comments, and a lot of you tweeted at me

776
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 2: today and you probably will in this video too when

777
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 2: we cut it. What would you write to yourself? Maybe

778
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: you bet on this stuff a lot like what would

779
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: you write to yourself? You give yourself the winning lotto numbers?

780
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 2: So speaking of betting, as we move.

781
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: Towards Colin is thirty five minutes into the show, I

782
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: knew we could make it. As we move towards the

783
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Speaker 1: end of.

784
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Speaker 2: The show, I got to tell you on the raw

785
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 2: Me and Noodle Express, which we are hitting at fifty

786
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 2: eight point eight percent against the spread so far this year,

787
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Speaker 2: and just bang the microphone.

788
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: We have not done any weeknight games.

789
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 2: We have not done what the natives affectionately referred to

790
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 2: as maction. We have not delved into maction until now.

791
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 2: So we gave you the other night, West Virginia minus three.

792
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: That's our first play. They are facing TCU. That is

793
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 2: a noon kickoff for the Mountaineers. I guess that's eleven

794
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 2: am local time for TCU, and that's the first game.

795
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 2: That's our best bet. But we're also going to add

796
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 2: in a Wednesday night game, which is a mere twenty

797
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Speaker 2: four hours from now. Friends, it pays to watch the

798
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 2: show live, Eastern Michigan plus nine against Ball State. We

799
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: will be on that game tomorrow night. We think there

800
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 2: is a moderate chance they compete to win the game.

801
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: Out right, We're not taking money line, don't misunderstand me.

802
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 2: We're taking Eastern Michigan plus nine. Now here's what else

803
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 2: we're gonna do. We're gonna monitor as best we can

804
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: what's happening in the college football ether and if there

805
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,919
Speaker 2: are more games postponed, then so be it. We'll still

806
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 2: be here to talk to you Thursday night about it

807
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: and we'll have some fun.

808
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Speaker 1: Either way.

809
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Speaker 2: Make sure you subscribe to the Late Kick podcast as well,

810
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: because we're gonna do that.

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Speaker 1: Either way, Thursday will be our next to Late Kick Extra.

812
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: And you know, like, I got to get home in

813
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: a little while because I'm talking to one of you

814
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: guys on Zoom later tonight. I told you last week

815
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: that it was probably gonna be the last week. I

816
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 2: said it, but then a lot of you flooded my inbox,

817
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: and so I've extended it as long as there are

818
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 2: some of you guys out there who are interested in

819
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: getting into sports media in some capacity. Maybe it's the

820
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: classical writing sense, maybe it's the alternative where it's digital media.

821
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Speaker 2: Maybe you don't really know what you want to do,

822
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 2: you just have a passion for it and you want

823
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Speaker 2: to get into it.

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Speaker 1: Hit me up.

825
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Speaker 2: Email me joshpat sven zero six at gmail dot com,

826
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Speaker 2: follow me on Twitter at late Kick Josh, and we

827
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Speaker 2: will see if we can set something up. Got one

828
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Speaker 2: of them tonight in about an hour. Been having a

829
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Speaker 2: lot of fun with that. As I keep telling you guys,

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Speaker 2: if I could hire you, I'd hire you by the dozens.

831
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Speaker 1: Got a lot of very talented people in our audience.

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Speaker 1: So I'm happy to talk with you guys and meet here.

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Speaker 2: Until then, though, the next time we speak for a

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Speaker 2: director column for Tony and Jordan on the podcast side,

835
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Speaker 2: I'm Josh Bate. Let's cross our fingers for college football Saturday.

836
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Speaker 2: Until then, have a great rest of your week, and

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Speaker 2: God bless