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Speaker 2: Welcome to the biggest tailgate party in the nation that

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff, presented by bet App,

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Speaker 2: the King of sports box. We're setting you up with

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Speaker 2: the information you need to watch your team win. Let go,

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Speaker 2: We're here to break it all down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: God, this is Fox Sports Radios Countdown the Kickoff, presented

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Speaker 2: Here's Brian Nook, former Penn State All American, Rich Hornberger,

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Speaker 2: and FSR betting analyst Jared Smith.

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Speaker 3: Oh what is going on?

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Speaker 4: Welcome in everybody as we get to set for the

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Speaker 4: Divisional round of the NFL Playoffs and.

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Speaker 3: National Championship Game action.

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Speaker 4: The team playing, Yeah, there is a there's one little

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Speaker 4: team that's involved there not named the buck Eyes and.

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Speaker 3: No definite. Yeah, we saw that we missed last weekend.

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Speaker 3: We couldn't convene and.

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Speaker 1: The miserate we were supposed to be in Georgia. Somebody

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Speaker 1: lied to all of us.

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Speaker 3: You know what.

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Speaker 5: I'll tell you what though. Yeah, I don't know about

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Speaker 5: you guys.

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Speaker 6: Those ticket prices, I wouldn't been able to go even

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Speaker 6: if Penn State was playing in the game.

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Speaker 4: A little high, a little steep, you know, but uh,

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Speaker 4: that's what happens when it's for a title.

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Speaker 3: And you know, listen, there are a lot of people.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to go soapbox right out of the gate,

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Speaker 4: but I guess this is anti soapbox. This is the

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Speaker 4: anti soapbox. Soapbox. Does that make sense?

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Speaker 3: But it's very rare on this show. There are a

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Speaker 3: lot of people that are like.

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Speaker 4: Oh, these ticket prices and if I wanted to go,

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Speaker 4: I still couldn't go.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, literally, get it right, it's the going rate.

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Speaker 4: You know, if it's the Super Bowl, if it's the

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Speaker 4: National championship game, it's going to cost an arm in

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Speaker 4: a lake.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 4: The one thing though, I will say this though, Rich

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Speaker 4: I went a couple of years ago, was in Indianapolis,

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Speaker 4: so I drove down from South Bend. This was right

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Speaker 4: after COVID. But it was the Georgia Alabama National Championship.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was.

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Speaker 4: At least reasonable, you know, it wasn't thousands of dollars.

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Speaker 4: When you get into the thousands plural, that's when it's like, so.

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Speaker 6: One thing, it for one hundred and ten grand in

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Speaker 6: like the club area.

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Speaker 3: It's high, it's high, it's high.

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Speaker 1: And here here's what I will say is I do

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Speaker 1: tend to agree with what you're saying, like the market determines.

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Speaker 5: It's the market, right. I mean, if you if.

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Speaker 1: You want to live in you know, a free society

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Speaker 1: where if you have the best idea, you're going to

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Speaker 1: be a very very rich man or woman. Because when

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Speaker 1: the best idea comes to the market, well, guess what,

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Speaker 1: everybody's gonna have a need for that idea. When you

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Speaker 1: have the best product, and whether that's by the way,

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Speaker 1: and you bring it to market, people are.

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Speaker 3: Going to drive the price up.

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Speaker 1: So this conversation where it gets me Brian and Jared

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Speaker 1: is when it comes to quarterbacks, where you hear that

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Speaker 1: guy doesn't deserve that money.

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Speaker 3: And I always say, whoa, whoa.

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Speaker 1: Let's stomp on the brakes because five bedrooms in Boone,

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Speaker 1: Iowa is a lot different than five bedrooms on the

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Speaker 1: Upper East Side of Manhattan. Okay, Like that's just the

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Speaker 1: price of that zip code. So when we're talking quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: the prices are, and if people are willing to pay

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Speaker 1: a premium, who are we to decide or determine, you know,

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Speaker 1: what something's worth. It's worth what somebody else will pay

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Speaker 1: for it. Maybe not you, but but maybe somebody will

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Speaker 1: spend forty million dollars a year on Sam Darnold for example.

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Speaker 5: That is a that's a good transition.

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Speaker 6: Someone asked me the other day what would be the

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Speaker 6: ideal ratings game for the networks?

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Speaker 5: And I think it would have been Notre Dame Texas.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, because then you get the South involved in the

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Speaker 6: I think Penn State Ohio State would have been like

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Speaker 6: the worst ratings game because it's a rematch and people

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Speaker 5: Have two teams from the same conference. But I think

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Speaker 6: Like I, I do think this is kind of the best,

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Speaker 6: the second best game we could have asked for in

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Speaker 6: terms of the pomp and the circumstance and all of

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, you know, I don't believe in Chinxes. I don't

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Speaker 4: know if you guys are super still.

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Speaker 5: I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: We have no control over them. I mean, am I superstitious? No?

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Speaker 3: But am I a little stitious?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, little business dad, Joe, he's.

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Speaker 5: A dad dad.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I eighteen oriented that sort of thing.

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Speaker 4: But Rich, you alluded to this, you know how we

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Speaker 4: got here, right like Ohio State versus Notre Dame. For

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Speaker 4: for all the marbles, you did mention something in passing

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Speaker 4: on the show and the last one that we did, Rich,

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Speaker 4: which someone who's prone to believe in jinks is they

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Speaker 4: they might look at this a little bit differently.

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Speaker 3: Check this out here.

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Speaker 1: I got the nitny Lions in the national title game

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Speaker 1: and see you Georgia.

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Speaker 3: I'm in Sandago. So there you go.

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Speaker 6: We were so hopeful that at that time it was

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Speaker 6: so it was.

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Speaker 5: We were so young. I was so young, so much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly right. I lacked the wisdom. I have

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Speaker 1: lived through the wars now I've seen the other side. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that really was I was a game. It was a

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Speaker 1: good game. It was a tough watch if you had

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Speaker 1: as much invested into it as I as I did. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, as a former Knitt player, and Jared did

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Speaker 1: that the football gods paid off the uh whatever you

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Speaker 1: want to say. The the the goal of every single

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Speaker 5: To a sport to entertain you, is for it to

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Speaker 1: And so far, the postseason in both college football and

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Speaker 1: It was a good game. It was a fun watch.

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Speaker 1: I was riveted to the very last moment.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think outside of the fandom of disappointment. Obviously

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Speaker 6: I think that was the most exciting game of the

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Speaker 5: Is that? Do you agree, Brian?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I do, absolutely.

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Speaker 4: It was a fantastic game, dramatic, came down to a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what was better than that?

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Speaker 5: I don't think.

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Speaker 6: I think you know, Texahiose State I think is the

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Speaker 4: So you know, man, and think about some of the

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Speaker 4: other games that we had. The Texas Arizona State game was, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Honestly, I think that one might have been more Excitingnest that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was crazy.

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Speaker 4: That was Scattaboo throwing a halfback pass. You know, fourth

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Speaker 3: They don't convert, they're done.

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Speaker 4: That was wild. That was a wild one. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: the contrary some of the boat races. Think about the

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Speaker 4: first round, it was boat race city every single game.

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Speaker 4: The Ohio State Oregon game, for as much build up,

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Speaker 4: that was a no contest. It was thirty four to nothing.

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Speaker 4: You blink twice. It was insane what happened there?

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 4: We did mention on the path to where we are

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Speaker 4: Ohio State versus Notre Dame. We did mention a few

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Speaker 4: Ohio State fans are who say I'd rather beat Michigan

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Speaker 4: than win a national championship, which just defies all logic.

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Speaker 4: I know you have a spirited rivalry, but you would

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Speaker 4: rather beat your rival than win it all.

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Speaker 3: That's insane.

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Speaker 4: But I thought about you guys because Cardile Jones, he

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Speaker 4: was a guest on a podcast, right and he was

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Speaker 4: asked this question. He was on the until Saturday podcast

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Speaker 4: The Athletic does this now? Cardile Jones, He's being interviewed

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Speaker 4: by Damian Harris, and I love how he sets this

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Speaker 1: Let's say you can only choose one, beating Michigan or

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Speaker 5: What would you choose?

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Speaker 3: That's extremely tough.

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Speaker 7: I think I had to go with win a national

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Speaker 7: lot of great things and get a lot of other

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Speaker 7: great teams to win that. Don't get me wrong, all

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Speaker 7: disrespect to their rivalry. It means a lot to me.

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Speaker 7: It means a lot to buck On Nation, it means

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Speaker 7: a lot to everybody who put on that Starla the Great.

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Speaker 7: But you're going to guarantee have opportunity to play Michig

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Speaker 3: It don't work like that.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you go six and you go six and

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Speaker 7: five going into week twelve, you're still going to play mission.

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Speaker 7: You go six to five, going to wink twelve, win, lose,

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Speaker 7: with draw. You ain't playing for the national title having

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Speaker 7: that ability and opportunity to play other top teams around

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Speaker 7: the country to go for the ultimate goal of something

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Speaker 7: that only one team is going to do each year.

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Speaker 7: I'm going to go with win a national title, especially

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Speaker 7: in this new format for the first inaugural twelve team playoffs.

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Speaker 1: The fact that you even had to ponder it like

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Speaker 1: that just lets me know you big ten people are crazy.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's what it boils down to. I don't

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Speaker 3: know why you a beat Michigan or win everything.

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Speaker 4: Ah gosh, man, that's I guess I'd have to go

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Speaker 3: I get what what are these they're insane? Are you insane?

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Speaker 1: Well, listen, there's a term, and it's not often used

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Speaker 1: because it's not included in any reputable psychological format, but

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Speaker 1: it's called Stockholm syndrome. Stockholm syndrome is the idea that

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Speaker 1: hostages can fall in love with their captors and actually

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Speaker 1: sometimes defend the people who have committed a crime against them.

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Speaker 3: Because you're in.

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Speaker 1: This hyper energetic emotional situation, you're going through a lot together.

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Speaker 1: Whether the person who actually is in control of you

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Speaker 1: That's what happens in many many team meeting rooms that

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Speaker 6: But I'll give it to you guys now and you

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Speaker 5: But I think there's so long ago.

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Speaker 6: Shall not pass for the nerds, Lord of the rings

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Speaker 6: I think Notre Dame obviously it took a very different path,

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Speaker 3: I mean that galvanized the team.

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Speaker 6: It allowed them to kind of reset and whatever pompousness,

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Speaker 3: But I think they have to.

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Speaker 6: Give a lot of credit to that team from the

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Speaker 5: If that's how it plays out on Monday Night.

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Speaker 3: No doubt.

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Speaker 4: Listen, it made a lot for both team seasons. And

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Speaker 3: It's insane. The score was comparable with Notre Dame.

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Speaker 4: I think they lost seventeen fourteen right at thirteen ten, Like,

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Speaker 4: But I thought Marcus Freeman, and we'll pick this back up,

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Speaker 4: So they've been legacy roadblocks for many teams, many players,

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Speaker 3: We're gonna be like, we're not worthy, We're not worthy.

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Speaker 4: If that happens, that is huge, legendary type stuff. With

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Speaker 3: Most likely, I agree.

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Speaker 1: I think that it's almost I think it is. It

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Speaker 3: Win their third in a row.

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Speaker 1: And I realize that what I'm saying sounds like it

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Speaker 1: that would be great, and it would be all of

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Speaker 5: Because I think if you can withstand the.

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Speaker 6: it all, Brian, because you make a great point like

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Speaker 5: Why not. And then you lose in the final game.

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Speaker 6: Man, it's like the ultimate kick in the pads, Like

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Speaker 6: And that's what makes I'm just gonna advance Kansas City

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and listen, we've talked about it where there is

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Speaker 4: and he was on stage after they won the NFC

444
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Speaker 4: championship game and he was on stage with Terry Bradshaw.

445
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 4: Terry Bradshaw was presenting them with the trophy and doing

446
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 4: the whole ceremony, and Russ said to Terry Bradshaw, he goes, hey,

447
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,439
Speaker 4: do you have any advice? What do we need to

448
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 4: do to win it? And Terry Bradshaw says, you got

449
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 4: to play the game down. If you build it up

450
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 4: to this big thing and you're gonna screw up. You're

451
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Speaker 4: gonna mess it up.

452
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Speaker 5: Strategy right now.

453
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Speaker 3: Like any other game. And it's either it's easier said

454
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 3: than done.

455
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 4: When it comes to the Chiefs, especially if you're on

456
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 4: the road in Arrowhead. I don't care what anybody says

457
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 4: to treat that like, hey, it's any other game.

458
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 3: Mahomes is any other quarterback.

459
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Speaker 4: It's not easy to put your mind in that space

460
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 4: to not think of it as bigger than it actually is.

461
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Speaker 3: I'm so glad you brought that up. I really I am. Look.

462
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 4: Look at a couple of these stats here. Rich Mahomes

463
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 4: has won twenty of his past twenty one starts. That

464
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Speaker 4: includes seven straight playoff wins. Try to go on a

465
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 4: seven game playoff winning streak, Okay, Like yeah, that is

466
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 4: really difficult to do. And he's fifteen and three in

467
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 4: the playoffs. His three losses are to Brady twice and

468
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 4: to Joe Burrow. That's the list, all right, that's pretty crazy.

469
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Speaker 3: You know what.

470
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Speaker 1: I'll add one more stat and actually I may need

471
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Speaker 1: somebody to double check if this is one accurate, but.

472
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Speaker 3: I think he is.

473
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Speaker 1: If he wins this this weekend, he's tied with Joe

474
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Speaker 1: Myia Montana for the most playoff wins over the course

475
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: of a court No maybe or no, no, no. It

476
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: was just a comparison of the two quarterbacks. So it

477
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 1: was just Joe Montana's sixteen playoff wins. It took him

478
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: sixteen years to do it. Wow, Mahomes has done it

479
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: in seven. Like to give you a little perspective, Mahomes Montana,

480
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: I should start with him. Montana is what we considered

481
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: the measuring bar for Brady, Like if he got past

482
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Speaker 1: if he got past Montana. Okay, now we can have

483
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: a conversation about the greatest player of all time because

484
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: that's the greatest quarterback of all time because winning four

485
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 1: stre winning four that he's visited. Nobody's ever done that,

486
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: nobody will ever do that. Right, So in our brains

487
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: we're like, it's Montana, it's Montana, it's Montana, until until

488
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 1: it was Brady. Well, guess what Mahomes is about to

489
00:24:55,119 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 1: topple Montana in year seven potentially potentially. So it's crazy

490
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 1: where we're at right now. Okay, Now getting back to

491
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: why I'm so glad you brought that up when Terry

492
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: Bradshaw said that I can remember the moment because I

493
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: watched it and I remember wherever I was. I don't

494
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 1: remember where I was watching that game, but I remember

495
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: nodding along and saying to myself, he's one hundred percent right.

496
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Speaker 3: I remember that interview.

497
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: I remember the question, and I remember thinking like it

498
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: took a little audacity for us to ask that question

499
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 1: in that moment the way he did, And I was like,

500
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 1: what an incredible question. Terry answered it perfectly, Because I'm

501
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: telling you, when I was a player.

502
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 3: I did that stuff all the time.

503
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 1: I tried to take this big moment, whatever moment I

504
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 1: was in, and make it as small as possible. I

505
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 1: would sometimes, like you remember watching the Jordan doc, how

506
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: in order to motivate himself, he would make up these

507
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: little lies, like this player did something awful to me,

508
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 1: so I'm going to come after him.

509
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 3: I'm going to embarrass him. What did he say? And

510
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 3: then everyone's like, Michael, he didn't say anyone.

511
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: He has children, you know, Like, but that was how

512
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 1: we motivated himself. For me, the way I lied to

513
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: myself was I pretended like football didn't matter in fact

514
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 1: in my brains. When I would hear fans even cheering

515
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 1: for the team I was playing for in the stadium,

516
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: I would be like, look at these idiots, look at

517
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: these dummies wasting their money on all of this. None

518
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: of this matters. It was the only way my brain

519
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 1: could make sense of doing something so big. I had

520
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: to make it so insignificant to me that whether I

521
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: won or loss wasn't important. I just need to accomplish

522
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 1: my job. So let me do my job to the

523
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Speaker 1: best of my ability. Everything else is a distraction, including

524
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Speaker 1: the fans who are cheering for the team I was

525
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,479
Speaker 1: playing for. Screw them, they don't matter. This is what matters,

526
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: whatever it was. So if I'm digging out a three

527
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: technique at the goal line so we compound a score

528
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 1: in and it's the final minutes of the game on

529
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Speaker 1: a game winning drive, or.

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Speaker 3: If it's the if it's kickoff right, you know, I'm

531
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 3: just running running down the field.

532
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: Whatever point of the game is, if you try to

533
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 1: minimize it instead of blow it up, you're gonna have

534
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: more success almost always.

535
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Speaker 6: Yeah, that was That was one of my favorite episodes

536
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 6: of the Last Dance with Jordan. He was telling a

537
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 6: story about bj Armstrong, his former teammate who then played

538
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 6: for the Hornets, and he had a game winning shot

539
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 6: and he started screaming at the bench and and and

540
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 6: Jordan was like, yeah, no, this is you can't celebrate.

541
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Speaker 6: Can't celebrate against Jordan, because that's gonna give him the

542
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 6: motivation that you need, and then he killed them the

543
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 6: next three games, completely invistrated them the next three games

544
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 6: of the series. Yeah, it's I think that's just how

545
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 6: the winning like. I don't have that, and that's what

546
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 6: There's a lot of things that separate me from being

547
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 6: a professional athlete. Let's just make that part clear right now.

548
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 6: But one of those things, besides the physical prowess, obviously,

549
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 6: I do not have that killer instinct.

550
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 3: I am too n of a guy.

551
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 6: I don't have that ability to just get into that

552
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 6: assassin mode that I think other quarterbacks Mahomes definitely, and

553
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 6: other guys Montana probably.

554
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 3: I didn't really watch him play. I was a little young.

555
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 6: I kind of caught the tail end of his career.

556
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 6: But my guess is that that was that mentality and.

557
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 5: With Mahomes, like it's just like what can you do?

558
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 6: Especially especially if you're because you know, the one thing

559
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 6: about football that's unique is not every player from the

560
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 6: team could be on the on the court, on the

561
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 6: field at the same time. Like in basketball, it's like

562
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 6: all five guys are on the court, so you're playing

563
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 6: offense and you're playing defense. Like imagine being one of

564
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 6: the other elite quarterbacks, the Lamars, the you know, Josh

565
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 6: Allen's sitting on the sideline and having to watch that

566
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 6: take place where you are helpless to Mahomes's inevitability in

567
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 6: that situation. I think that is what makes the sport

568
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 6: of football so unique, is the best players tend to

569
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 6: be the quarterbacks, and they tend to have to watch

570
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 6: each other work from opposite sidelines, and that is always

571
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 6: a unique dynamic to see. And let's say it is

572
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 6: gonna be Lamar and I think it's gonna we'll get

573
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 6: to the picks letter. I think it's gonna be Lamar

574
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 6: and the Holmes next week and in the big game,

575
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 6: to see who goes to the super Bowl. To see

576
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 6: how both of those quarterbacks kind of you know, get

577
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 6: into the game, and then how each one responds to

578
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 6: the other one's magic in that sense is always a

579
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 6: fascinating kind of dance to watch play out. But man,

580
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 6: I think I think this is gonna be a fun weekend.

581
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 6: I think we're gonna get three, at least three out

582
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 6: of the four at games. I think are gonna be

583
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 6: really good. That's my prediction.

584
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 3: A couple of things.

585
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 4: One that's a great point, and I don't want to

586
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,239
Speaker 4: bring up painful memories, but you guys might agree with

587
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 4: this if you look at that Notre Dame Penn State

588
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 4: game down the stretch, Jared, when you're talking about being

589
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 4: a quarterback on the sideline and watching the other guy

590
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 4: on the field, how helpless that feels. And I think

591
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 4: that could have gotten Drew Aller in trouble he.

592
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Speaker 5: Got in his own head.

593
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 6: I'm sure you were watching on the I watched the

594
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 6: you know the screen when he like, you know, beating

595
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 6: himself up after that last two minute drive.

596
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 4: Well it's late in the game, yeah, and Notre Dame

597
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,479
Speaker 4: has the ball and they're showing Drew Aller on the

598
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 4: sideline and you can feel how helpless he feels in

599
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 4: that moment. And then next thing you know, Penn State

600
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 4: has the ball and there's less than a minute to go,

601
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 4: and he made a bad decision through an interception that

602
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 4: led to a loss. And I think that helpless feeling

603
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 4: when he didn't have the ball could have contributed to

604
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 4: a bad Degrea.

605
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 6: They lost the game in that moment when he lost confidence.

606
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 6: They lost the game at that point before the interception.

607
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 3: No doubt.

608
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 4: So if you apply that to Mahomes, right.

609
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 3: Think about being C. J.

610
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 4: Stroud or whoever Mahomes is going to face in the playoffs,

611
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 4: and you're watching Mahomes do what Mahomes does. It's gonna

612
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 4: be really difficult not to press, not to try to

613
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 4: do too much, right, like, just take what the defense

614
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 4: gives you. Again, we're doing the Russell Wilson thing. We're

615
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 4: downplaying this game. We're not building it up to something huge.

616
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 4: Like here's the audio. This is from America's game on

617
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 4: NFL Network. This goes back to Russell Wilson explaining when

618
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 4: he was talking to Terry Bradshaw and the advice that

619
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Speaker 4: that TB gave him. Check this out a one second here,

620
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 4: one second, we have computer manu malfunctions.

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Speaker 3: There we go, There we go, We're ready, Here we go.

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Speaker 8: Well, when I'm off on stage, I didn't know he's

623
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Speaker 8: gonna be on stage necessarily, But as soon as I

624
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 8: got on stage, as soon as I gotta ask her Brushaw, you.

625
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 3: Know, I got a question for you. But what we

626
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 3: need to do to win it, it's different what we

627
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 3: need to do to win it. What makes you win it?

628
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 3: Don't you know? What you gotta be really cool. Don't

629
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 3: let the moment catch up with you. You gotta play

630
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 3: the game down.

631
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 6: If you build it up it's so important, you'll screw

632
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 6: it up and you won't play well.

633
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 5: It's a great question in that moment from me to

634
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 5: ask that.

635
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 4: A great question, great answer, outstanding answer. But I get

636
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 4: this is so good, but apply it to this game.

637
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 4: Texans and Chiefs. Think about c J. Stroud this year.

638
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 4: His numbers were way down. If you look at his

639
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 4: passer rating this season, he's twenty fifth.

640
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 3: Listen to this.

641
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 4: Eighty seven was his passer rating. That's below league average. Again,

642
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 4: twenty fifth. That's below Bears rookie Caleb Williams wow, and

643
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 4: slightly above Raiders quarterback Aidan O'Connell. That's where CJ. Stroud

644
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 4: was this season. And he's got no Stefon Diggs and

645
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 4: he's got no Tank Dell. And you're telling me that

646
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 4: guy isn't gonna press at all. It's easier said than

647
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 4: done to not press. I think that's job number one

648
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 4: for CJ. Stroud. Don't press and try to outduel Mahomes

649
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 4: because that's not gonna go well.

650
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: Play within your game. It is one hundred percent accurate

651
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: that is. That would be my mission. If I were

652
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: his quarterback coach and I'm the guy he speaks to

653
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: the most, or his offensive coordinator, you pull him off

654
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: to the side, and you and you, and you give

655
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: them little little gems along the path along the long

656
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: week and the week plus weight.

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00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 3: It is until you face.

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00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: This guy and you you you strip down the boogeyman

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00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: and you say, look, he's he's just a guy just

660
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Speaker 1: like you. We're all gonna go out there and play football.

661
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Speaker 1: And it's almost like the Hoosiers, right. You watch what

662
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: Gene Hackman did. Yeah, you know, you measure the court,

663
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Speaker 1: the length and the width. We're just playing in a

664
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Speaker 1: different gym. It's the same one we got at home

665
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Speaker 1: in Indiana. Trust me, it's the same. We're just playing

666
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: another football game. But I'll tell you what in battle, okay,

667
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: And and this is I'm telling I'm giving you the

668
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Speaker 1: scoop from the sideline because this is how it goes.

669
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Speaker 1: Everybody has a plan, just like Mike Tyson says, until

670
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Speaker 1: you get punched in the okay, and then all hell

671
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: breaks loose. So you have assistant coaches sometimes who are

672
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: cools of cucumber all week long, losing their minds on

673
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Speaker 1: the sideline, because you want to talk about helpless, coaches

674
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: are helpless. They're trusting their players to execute their perfect

675
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: game plan, and if they're screwing it up, if it

676
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 1: is imperfect, and they're saying, hey, why didn't that work?

677
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Speaker 9: You know, it's exactly what we drew up all week long.

678
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 9: We practiced against the four to three defense. Why didn't

679
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 9: we get this guy blocked? Oh, well you know this

680
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 9: and he stunted inside. No he didn't.

681
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: You turn on the film and he did. And whether

682
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 1: defensive linemens screwed it up or you know, or or

683
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: or they put a little wrinkle in the game plan

684
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: to screw you up, whatever it is, you got to

685
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: be able to adjust on the fly. And so these

686
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: assistant coaches are losing their mind and sometimes they're telling

687
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: you that they're seeing different things with the pictures. So

688
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: you got to trust your instincts going back on the field.

689
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter if you're an offensive lineman or

690
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Speaker 1: wide receiver or running back or quarterback or a tight end.

691
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Speaker 3: You can't press.

692
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 1: Because when you think and overthink things, you're gonna stink

693
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Speaker 1: it up out there. So you get a tight end

694
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Speaker 1: who catches his first ball after having two drops, and

695
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: maybe the right move is because it's a two minute

696
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: drill at the end of the half and you need

697
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: some points, whether it's three or seven, you'll settle for

698
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 1: the field goal.

699
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 3: You'd love to get the touchdown.

700
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: But because you drop those first two passes, you feel like, oh,

701
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Speaker 1: I got.

702
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Speaker 3: To make something special happen.

703
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: So instead of stepping out of bounds, you try to

704
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,959
Speaker 1: beat that defensive back. He wraps you up around your shoelaces,

705
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: and now you down the ball within the field and

706
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: the clock is ticking. You burn a time out you

707
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: didn't need to. Every single player needs to keep their

708
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: cool and their composure, and it's easier said than done.

709
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Speaker 1: And unfortunately heavy is the head that wears the crown.

710
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: The quarterback has the most weight on their shoulders every

711
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Speaker 1: single game.

712
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Speaker 3: So if that guy loses.

713
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: His cool, If Drew Aller goes out there after seeing

714
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Speaker 1: what happens on the opposite offenses progressing the field, you know,

715
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: scoring points, having success, and you get stuck inside of

716
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Speaker 1: your own head. You're gonna make a late throw over

717
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: the middle of the field and you're gonna throw the

718
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 1: game ceiling interception. See, can't let the moment get too big.

719
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: You cannot allow yourself outside of your own game. That

720
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: is going to be the marching orders for CJ. Stroud

721
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Speaker 1: or whoever faces Mahomes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

723
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Speaker 6: Bobby Slowek, go defensive coordinator for Houston, actually commented on

724
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 6: that after the win over the Chargers last week about

725
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 6: a bit of an off tendency in CJ's game in

726
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 6: that matchup to run the ball.

727
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 5: He ran it six times for forty two.

728
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 6: Yards in that game, and that's a that's not a

729
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Speaker 6: trait that I think CJ is really exhibited a lot

730
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Speaker 6: in the regular season. And his rushing total in this

731
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 6: game is fourteen and a half. So again you look

732
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Speaker 6: at like what a quarterback has to do to get

733
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Speaker 6: the job done playing outside of the norm, you know,

734
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Speaker 6: bucking a fucking a trend, playing off tendancy, And that's

735
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Speaker 6: the biggest part, Like, that's the that's the hardest thing,

736
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Speaker 6: I think at this time of year, especially when we're

737
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Speaker 6: breaking down the matchups. We have all these data points

738
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Speaker 6: of what these teams have done offensively. Well, so do

739
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 6: the defensive coordinators and so does all the defensive players.

740
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Speaker 5: They're all watching the film.

741
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Speaker 6: How do you throw something unique into the mix that

742
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Speaker 6: can all of a sudden put the other team on

743
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Speaker 6: the back foot, because right now, when you're facing Patrick Mahomes,

744
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 6: you're always in like all right, we're waiting for the

745
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 6: moment where he just takes the game over. Is there

746
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Speaker 6: something that the other quarterback can do to slow it down?

747
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Speaker 6: It's kind of like that Draft day scene, like the

748
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 6: great ones can slow the game down. I think that

749
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Speaker 6: is gonna be con c J. Stroud slow the game

750
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Speaker 6: down and just let it come to him. Maybe his

751
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 6: legs are gonna be a big factor today.

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Speaker 4: Well, we gotta speed it up and get to break.

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Speaker 4: start with you to unveil the theme as well.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 5: The theme is what we've been doing for the last month.

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Speaker 3: It's toundy time. It's toundy.

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Speaker 5: A little quarterback toutty time. I'm noticing a theme today.

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Speaker 3: I'm going with Josh Allen.

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Speaker 6: You're getting it at basically a pick on price plus

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Speaker 6: one ten over at bet MGM. I think when the

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Speaker 6: Bills get in the red zone, I think that's where

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Speaker 6: Josh Allen's legs become activated. It's like Captain Planet mode activated.

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Speaker 6: He is just such a good red zone runner because

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Speaker 6: of his size, because of his ability to kind of

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Speaker 6: play both sides right. It can be a scramble, it

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Speaker 6: could be in design quarterback run. It's a high total

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00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 6: game between Buffalo and Baltimore. It's gonna be weather, wind

782
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Speaker 6: and cold and all the snow in Western New York.

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Speaker 6: So I think Josh Allen the running game is a

784
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Speaker 6: big factor in that Ravens Bills matchup.

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Speaker 5: I'll say, Josh Allen fin theendo.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: So I like Sam Laporta anytime touchdown. You get some

788
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: good value on this one too, because he hasn't been

789
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: factored out of their offense. But they have so many

790
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: other weapons, especially when they get to near the goal line.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes offensive linemen are weapons.

792
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Speaker 1: But I love Sam Laporta in big games for Ben

793
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Speaker 1: Johnson's offense, and also Jared Goff in big moments, he

794
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: starts looking for his running backs, he starts looking for

795
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 1: his tight ends. Those checkdown routes are gonna be really important,

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Speaker 1: and he's good with the ball in his hands after

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Speaker 1: touch Give me Sam Laporta, Lyons tight end.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with Lamar. Give me Lamar Jackson. The

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Speaker 4: training wheels are off, right, it's playoff time. He had

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Speaker 4: fifteen care last week against the Steelers. His own mom

801
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Speaker 4: at the end of the regular season was basically like

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Speaker 4: run the ball.

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Speaker 5: What are you doing?

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Speaker 3: So I'll take Lamar at plus one ninety to get.

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Speaker 5: Kind of one for that Parla not bad.

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Speaker 3: I like it, payoff all right, come up next.

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Speaker 4: Many disadvantages for this team in this game.

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Speaker 3: Oh what is going on? Everybody?

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Speaker 4: We're getting you ready for the divisional round of the

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Speaker 4: NFL playoffs, also the National Championship game on Monday. Fellas

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Speaker 4: I mentioned this, there are numerous disadvantages for a particular

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Speaker 4: team in a particular game. That would be the Washington Commanders.

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Speaker 4: Okay taking on the Lions prime time this evening, very

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Speaker 4: much looking forward to this one. But you can get

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Speaker 4: into the x'es and o's and all this stuff. One

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Speaker 4: of the big disadvantages would be the Commander's rush defense.

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Speaker 4: They're thirtieth in the NFL. And we always say styles

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00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 4: make fights. I just picture I don't know why.

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Speaker 3: In my mind is weird.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes I picture a player on the Commanders talking to

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Speaker 4: his parents.

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Speaker 3: And it's just like, hey, son, so you know who

823
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Speaker 3: we got coming up.

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Speaker 4: We got the Lions and we got the thirtieth rush def.

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Speaker 3: And that's not good.

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Speaker 4: That's not a good scenario for the Commanders. And then

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Speaker 4: on top of that, it's a short week for Washington.

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Speaker 4: I have no idea why Washington played on Sunday night

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Speaker 4: and now they're playing on Saturday. Meanwhile, Detroit is off

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Speaker 4: a bye. I just don't understand why they would do

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Speaker 4: Washington that way. And you could say, hey, man, earn

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Speaker 4: a bye, don't cry to me all those things. That's fine,

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Speaker 4: But why is Washington on a short week at least

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Speaker 4: play on Sunday. I don't get that at all. I

835
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Speaker 4: don't agree with it. But that's another disadvantage for Washington here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 1: And what's interesting about football is it really truly takes

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Speaker 1: a week to fully recover from the last game and

839
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Speaker 1: fully prepare for the next. And I don't want to

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Speaker 1: sound like, oh, you know, like basketball much softer sport.

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00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: You could turn around and play back to backs and

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00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 1: all those things. And maybe that's true to a certain extent.

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00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: Maybe the exhaustion physically, mentally, emotionally end game planning for

844
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Speaker 1: the next game. With so many games on your regular

845
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: season schedule, maybe there is an argument to be made

846
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Speaker 1: that it's just easier, you know, to flush a game

847
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Speaker 1: and start the next one, because it's like toilet paper,

848
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Speaker 1: it's disposable. Regular season, you have eighty two of these

849
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Speaker 1: baseball same thing, you have one hundred and sixty two.

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Speaker 1: But when you only have seventeen and then you get

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00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: to that eighteenth game, in the postseason, and then you

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00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: get to the nineteenth and we're creeping ever closer to

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00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: it championship game, and then we're talking about that that

854
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Holy smokes. The more time you have to prepare,

855
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: the better, because if since you were in high school

856
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: or even pee wee give had a week to flush

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00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: the last game, to wrest your body from the last game,

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00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: and then get game planning for the next opponent, and

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00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, that time is truncated. Whether

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Speaker 1: it's you know, a special weekday edition of football in

861
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: college football, or it's one of these you know these

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00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: early or you know, depending on your schedule, which side

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Speaker 1: of it we're talking about Monday night football, which compresses

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Speaker 1: the next week game planning, or it's Thursday night football,

865
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Speaker 1: which compresses the week you have leading up to your

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Speaker 1: next opponent. Whatever it is, Brian, it's perfectly stated. The

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Speaker 1: NFL screwed the Commanders. They just did flat out. You

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Speaker 1: could have changed this for them, You could have made

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Speaker 1: it so they had a full recovery before their next moment,

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Speaker 1: but they didn't. I'm not sure why. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: sure we'll ever have an answer why. Maybe it's maybe

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Speaker 1: that has something to do with scheduling in the specific

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00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: markets that are involved in this game. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but it stinks for the Commanders because they should have

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Speaker 1: been given a week since they made they made it

876
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: to this moment.

877
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 3: It's a TV thing.

878
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 5: That's the only reason why, and it's not right.

879
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 6: I'm not defending it, but you know, Fox, I think

880
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 6: it's the order of games picked. I think see I

881
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 6: think it's like, well, we knew that we knew Bill's

882
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 6: Ravens was going to be the afternoon Sunday window. I

883
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 6: mean that was just that was the premiere game in

884
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 6: this window this week, and the I think it's like

885
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 6: an order you pick it in and NBC Peacock gets

886
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 6: the the Sunday afternoon game, and I think they chose

887
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 6: Eagles Rams over Lines Commanders. I think that's why, because

888
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 6: NBC gets to choose which game they want in this window,

889
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 6: and Fox gets stuck with the the leftover game and

890
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 6: then we'll get the ESPN game obviously.

891
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 5: Sold this afternoon, Jared.

892
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: Because you're informed of me of something and I honestly

893
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: don't know and I never looked into it, but you're

894
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: saying the networks by the real estate on the clock

895
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: in the day, correct and then and then it's a

896
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: toss up which teams or I should say, which games

897
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: fall to them based on.

898
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 3: What they bid it on.

899
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 6: I think they get to choose, okay, because that's why,

900
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 6: for example, that's why the AFC South team, the Texas exactly,

901
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 6: they're always the low end of the totem of the ratings,

902
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 6: and so they always get thrown into that Saturday afternoon

903
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:40,919
Speaker 6: game and it's like a pecking order of television sexiness.

904
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 10: Hold on, I think you're all missing something here. The

905
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 10: reason why this game is going to Saturday is because

906
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 10: Tom Brady wants a closer look at Ben Johnson.

907
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 3: Yes, that's like to get in there into Detroit. They

908
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 3: knew where they going to have Detroit.

909
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 10: It's like, all right, well, I guess you're playing on

910
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 10: Saturday because Tom Brady's gonna get ahead of the coaching.

911
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 3: This is a part of Ben Johnson's interview process.

912
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 10: Is playing us a good point though? That's a way

913
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 10: I mean, that's been the talk of the entire week. Yeah,

914
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 10: does this conflict of interest with Tom Brady?

915
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 3: Is it there or not?

916
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 10: With you know, him being a minority owner of the Raiders,

917
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 10: in this very public look for a coach and clearly

918
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 10: courting Ben Johnson. Now he's on the call in Detroit.

919
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 5: It's a weird situation there.

920
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 6: I don't think it's going to have any impact on

921
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 6: the game or his call or what the Raiders do

922
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 6: as a higher but that has been a I think

923
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 6: the most interesting part of tom Brady's run. I mean,

924
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 6: I think he's honestly, I think Greg Olsen's better as

925
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 6: an announcer, but Tom Brady's Tom Brady. So I understand why,

926
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 6: you know, he's kind of been thrust into that booth.

927
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 6: But that is a very interesting part of the dynamic

928
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 6: this week because I think this has been ad Aaron

929
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 6: Glenn Frankly, I think both of those guys, when the

930
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 6: Lions lose, I think both those guys are going to

931
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 6: probably move.

932
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Speaker 3: On when So are you calling the upset here tonight, Jared?

933
00:46:58,640 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 3: Is it?

934
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Speaker 8: No?

935
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Speaker 3: We're waiting for the Lions.

936
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Speaker 6: Although I did bet Washington plus ten and ah, okay,

937
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Speaker 6: I don't hate it.

938
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Speaker 4: By the way, let me let me give you a

939
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,280
Speaker 4: side rant and we'll get back to Commander's Lions. Because Jared,

940
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 4: you're bringing up Tom Brady and this is the dumbest

941
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 4: thing ever where he's not allowed to. He had to

942
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 4: sit down interview with Mahomes for a feature earlier this season,

943
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 4: and people were all upset about it, like like what,

944
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 4: like Mahomes is gonna give him the deepest, darkest secret

945
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 4: that he's gonna use.

946
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 3: Against the Chiefs for what are we doing here?

947
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 4: What do you think Tom Brady was able to unlock

948
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 4: in a sit down interview with Mahomes that took five

949
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 4: or ten minutes.

950
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

951
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 3: You talk about being paranoid to a fault.

952
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 4: All these people like, don't let Brady he's a minority owner,

953
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 4: don't don't allow him access and doing sit down interviews.

954
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 3: As if what as if that's gonna lead to anything?

955
00:47:58,880 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 3: What do we do?

956
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 4: It's so stupid, man, all these owners that are so

957
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 4: worried about Tom Brady or is just dumb. It's so

958
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 4: such a waste of time.

959
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 1: You know, I I don't wanna. I understand what you're saying.

960
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: The defense of that would be no, no, no, get up.

961
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: That's always the great entry point. I understand what you're saying.

962
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 6: I was always to ignore everything before the butt Okay, okay,

963
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 6: So I'll.

964
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 3: Just I'll just say it. You're you're mostly right. You are.

965
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: Where I would disagree is through a conspiratorial lens, right

966
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: if if you're looking at Okay, for example, uh, you

967
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: know when when our nation severed from the British right

968
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: thirteen original colonies?

969
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, hang on old school history lessons.

970
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: I know, I know, but I'm saying, like, one of

971
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: the biggest things that that we did was no church

972
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: in state. So we're not gonna mix religion with government, right.

973
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: It was important so so early on in the donna

974
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 1: the nation, Like if you were a president and you

975
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: had a little too close relationship with a member of

976
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: the church or a member or an affiliate with or

977
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: a high ranking affiliate with a different religion, all of

978
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 1: a sudden, people got up in arms because like, oh God,

979
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: this is the first step towards tyranny. So we can't

980
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: even have what looks like a religious leader conspiring with

981
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: a state leader.

982
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 3: We can't do it.

983
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: And so I think that's what's happening with Tom Brady

984
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: is they're saying he is such an influential character in football,

985
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: and he carries so.

986
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 3: Much sash, so much weight, and so much gravitas that him.

987
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: Just simply appearing in the room makes people act differently,

988
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: think differently, do different things. So if he is going

989
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: to be a minority owner with the Raiders and you're

990
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: going to give him basically unf fettered access to all

991
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: thirty one other teams, even if it looks nice like

992
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: potentially there could be any conspiratorial relationship between him and

993
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: anybody else, Brian, like I said.

994
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 3: I mostly agree with you, but you cannot have what

995
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 3: even looks like that.

996
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 4: I hear you, But let me be specific here, because

997
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 4: I get if Tom Brady is sitting in those production

998
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 4: meetings and it's you're able to ask any player anything.

999
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 4: Tom Brady could gather a lot from those moments. Absolutely

1000
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 4: he could, and so I understand why he wouldn't be

1001
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 4: a part of those. But if you're up in arms,

1002
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 4: which a lot of people were because Mahome sat down

1003
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 4: with Tom Brady, are you kidding me?

1004
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 3: Like?

1005
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 4: Production meeting's fine, but sitting down and let's say he

1006
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 4: talked to Jared Goff. You had to sit down interview

1007
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 4: with Jared Goff leading up to the night game this evening,

1008
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 4: and people are upset about that. Is if he's going

1009
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 4: to be able to gather things that he's gonna be

1010
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 4: able to use. Come on, dude, they're talking about the

1011
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 4: Washington commanders. They're not getting in depth on any level

1012
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 4: like that at all. It's so silly to be outraged

1013
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 4: about that.

1014
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it, But at the same token, I've

1015
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: been in some of those moments where you know, before

1016
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 1: you put the microphones on your lapel or before the

1017
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 1: makeup people come into the room.

1018
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 3: I'm just telling you, you know, you just start talking shop.

1019
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 3: You get to know people, you know. So you're sitting

1020
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 3: down with Mahomes and.

1021
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure they know each other, they have each other's

1022
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: cell phone numbers, they have access to each other otherwise.

1023
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: But in this forced situation where he works for Fox,

1024
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 1: he's a broadcaster and a former quarterback and he's gonna

1025
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: be interviewing you now, Patrick, And Patrick goes, Okay, I'm

1026
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: the quarterback of the Kansas City Chiefs, and I'm gonna

1027
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: sit down with with Tom Brady and I'm gonna do

1028
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: these things like there are times where you don't even

1029
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: realize that the coyote or the wolf has snuck into

1030
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:58,479
Speaker 1: the chicken coop.

1031
00:51:58,800 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

1032
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 4: We're going to movie I hear you, but we're going

1033
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 4: movie trailer mode. These quarterbacks are smart. They know if

1034
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 4: they're gonna give anything of use for Tom Brady. They've

1035
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 4: been in so many press conferences. This is a super

1036
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 4: charged press conference. They're not gonna reveal anything that they

1037
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 4: don't want to be used against them, right Like, so,

1038
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 4: I just think it's all about nothing.

1039
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 3: I think. I mean, do you feel the same way.

1040
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 6: By the way, we just got a comment from a

1041
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 6: Sam Zagorski made a really great point reason the Commanders

1042
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 6: are playing today. Rams played Monday and that and I

1043
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 6: did I went wet, I went back and looked all

1044
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 6: the teams that have always played Monday night have gotten

1045
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 6: the Sunday.

1046
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 5: A very very good point.

1047
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 3: Yep.

1048
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 5: We love when viewers chime in, listeners chime in and

1049
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 5: they make really sound points.

1050
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 6: I do think the TV situation, uh plays a lot

1051
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 6: a big factor in who plays on Saturday in that

1052
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 6: first game.

1053
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 4: Right because the rest thing Baltimore Buffalo would make more

1054
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 4: sense today.

1055
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I think TV plays a little bit of

1056
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 5: a factor in some of the games.

1057
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 6: But in that specific Commander's NFC situation, that Rams winner, whoever.

1058
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 5: It was, what ermin Rams or I forget who even

1059
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 5: they played that night. That's how long it's been, like,

1060
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 5: I thank you, Yeah it was Minnesota.

1061
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 3: It was Minnesota.

1062
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 6: Sam Donald's already after if Minnesota would have won, they

1063
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 6: would have gotten a Sunday game too. But do you, Brian,

1064
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 6: do you feel differently about this situation because it is

1065
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 6: potential hiring fodder with Ben Johnson or Aaron Glenn or

1066
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 6: anyone else you know on either one of these teams

1067
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 6: lines or commanders that Tom Brady might hire. I do think,

1068
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 6: and I'm not saying it's it's a bad thing, because

1069
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 6: I think Tom Brady in the booth doing this is

1070
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 6: good for the NFL net positive long term. But I

1071
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 6: do think it's a little bit un kosher for him

1072
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 6: to get this kind of access to a coach that

1073
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 6: he might be potentially hiring in a week.

1074
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 3: No, that's fair.

1075
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 4: I think that if you're just reasonable about it, and

1076
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 4: you said, hey, if Fox Fox just went to the

1077
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 4: league however it's set up, and said, hey, what do

1078
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 4: you think about Tom Brady either doing a sit down

1079
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 4: interview before the game with Jayden Daniels or Jared Goth

1080
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 4: and the NFL says, yeah, that's fine, right, if if

1081
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 4: the request was, hey, Tom Brady just for whatever reason

1082
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 4: wants to talk to Ben Johnson.

1083
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:28,439
Speaker 5: The way.

1084
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 6: They're just collectively like, no, no, we're going to bring

1085
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 6: the whole Raiders staff with the interview.

1086
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 3: Just you know, he just wants to get a vibe

1087
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 3: really quick.

1088
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: Let me let me just let me just add this

1089
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: just just because again, the point I'm defending, I think

1090
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,879
Speaker 1: is already heard, and your points are well heard too, Brian.

1091
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 1: I think it's much ado about nothing for the most part.

1092
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: But I will say this, like, all right, so we

1093
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: do a great show. We do a great job. We

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Speaker 3: You know? Okay, how about this, we have this wonderful

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Speaker 1: We're fully aware that there are other sportsbook I mean,

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Speaker 5: Does it mean that we're jumping ship on a on

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 3: But it looks weird. So if Tom Brady exactly, it's optics, Jared.

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Speaker 1: If Tom Brady, who is dot dot Tom freaking Brady,

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Speaker 6: You're ready for the flip side of this is, if

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Speaker 5: To Ben Johnson the entire week.

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Speaker 6: You're gonna be ignored and no one's gonna say a word,

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Speaker 6: because let's be honest, of all the coaches that are

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Speaker 6: in this cycle, who's the one coach that has coveted.

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Speaker 5: More than all of them?

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Speaker 3: I mean it to me is Mike McCarthy. Hand scene.

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Speaker 4: Coming up next, our main man, Seamus McGee gets us

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Speaker 3: All right, let's do this, follow the money money all right, we.

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Speaker 3: Good morning to you, Seamus.

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Speaker 4: Uh do we just put everything we own on Notre

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Speaker 4: Dame plus eight and a half?

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Speaker 3: Is that the play? Here?

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Speaker 8: Guy? It's good to be back. It certainly seems like,

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Speaker 8: uh like there's so much action coming in on a

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Speaker 8: Notre Dame, but not necessarily on the spread. It seems

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Speaker 8: like most backers who love Notre Dame on Monday are

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Speaker 8: taking a shot on the money line. Like, guys, it

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Speaker 8: looks like our best our best result is going to

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Speaker 8: be an Ohio State win and a arning cover in

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Speaker 8: this game. Of eight and a half.

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Speaker 5: Brian, you gotta.

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Speaker 3: Stop betting it, literally making too many wagers.

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Speaker 6: The books are getting overwhelmed with all that Notre Dame

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Speaker 6: money line tickets getting no shame. That's an interesting point

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Speaker 6: because you know you've been around the block, like what

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Speaker 6: are the odds of a Notre Dame cover and an

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Speaker 6: Ohio State win?

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Speaker 3: Like usually, at least in the NFL.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if actually this trend is the same

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Speaker 6: in college, but the team that wins the game tends

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Speaker 6: to cover the spread in that favorite role. We've seen

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Speaker 6: a lot of that in the NFL this year. Do

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Speaker 6: we think that the favorites will continue to have success

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Speaker 6: in the NFL? That has been the vibe all season?

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Speaker 6: We have two hefty favorites today, both of them north

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Speaker 6: of a touchdown. Obviously Detroit's the biggest favorite of the weekend?

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Speaker 6: Is it chalk vibes at bet MGM for the playoff

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Speaker 6: teams today?

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Speaker 8: Of course, it's funny you bring that up. It's like

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Speaker 8: meeting that middle there where the favorite wins but doesn't cover,

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Speaker 8: because it felt like in a lot of these playoff

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Speaker 8: games for college we were in that situation where it's like, oh,

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Speaker 8: we need a Penn State win, but a Boise cover

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Speaker 8: or a Texas when an Arizona State cover, We're pretty

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Speaker 8: lucky with it, honestly for most of the playoffs. So

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Speaker 8: like come to these playoff games where a lot of

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Speaker 8: people throw interest on the dogs. Feel like we've seen

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Speaker 8: that a lot recently, But as far as this weekend goes,

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Speaker 8: it feels like a normal NFL weekend when we're gonna

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Speaker 8: need some dogs to bark here. With the exception probably

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Speaker 8: of Washington at Detroit, lots of money coming in on

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Speaker 8: the Commanders plus nine and a half starting to get

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Speaker 8: a little upsided there, and if you took the money

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Speaker 8: line singles, the Commander's outright would be we'd lose a

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Speaker 8: chunk of money on that. However, if you take into

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Speaker 8: account how many parlays we're going to write on the

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Speaker 8: Lions Eagles, Chiefs money line, it would really soften the

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Speaker 8: blow there. If the Commanders went out right, and frankly,

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Speaker 8: we'd wipe off our biggest liability for the Super Bowl

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Speaker 8: off the books if the line and lose out right

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Speaker 8: this year, which you know wouldn't be too shabby, But

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Speaker 8: I think the lines moving on would setting up a

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Speaker 8: game against the Eagles would be a huge handle for

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Speaker 8: the book. Yeah, so there's things you can take away

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Speaker 8: as positives from there.

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Speaker 1: And not to tip my hand too far, but I mean, commanders,

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Speaker 1: they give me very similar vibes when they're playing against

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Speaker 1: teams who don't often see them. To prepare for the

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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens, because with that athletic, that mobile of a quarterback.

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Speaker 5: Who also is a passing threat, good luck. I mean,

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Speaker 5: it's hard to gain plan for.

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Speaker 1: It's difficult to get a scout team quarterback to replicate

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Speaker 1: what Jaden Daniels does on a football field. Get him

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Speaker 1: back to the Chiefs, though, because you can't steer the

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Speaker 1: conversation too far away from the Chiefs at any point.

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Speaker 1: They are in second place right now on the big

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Speaker 1: board for future Super Bowl champion. How likely though, Honestly,

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Speaker 1: when you look at the map for the Chiefs through

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Speaker 1: the AFC side and the Lions, who right now hold

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Speaker 1: the mantle as odds on favorites to win the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl at BETEBGM and many other books, how likely would

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Speaker 1: you say that the Chiefs three.

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Speaker 3: Pet Seamus.

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Speaker 8: Aileen it every time I tell someone what I do

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Speaker 8: for a living. The first question I'm always asks is, so,

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Speaker 8: who's going to win the Super.

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Speaker 3: Bowl this year?

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Speaker 8: I very boringly had it's probably gonna be the Kansas

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Speaker 8: City chief Like, just be prepared for it, Like, don't

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Speaker 8: act surprise when they're just there again, you can never

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Speaker 8: go wrong with them, and you know they have home field.

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Speaker 8: I know they got to play the Ravens of the

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Speaker 8: Bills next round is going to be really tough. But

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Speaker 8: I mean, how do you how do you say Mahomes

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Speaker 8: and Reid at home in the playoffs? It's really hard

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Speaker 8: to do.

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Speaker 4: You know, Seamus, you look back to the previous week

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Speaker 4: in the wild card round and what five of six

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Speaker 4: games went under and some of them like significantly under.

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Speaker 4: Does that have any impact on the totals this week?

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Speaker 4: Where you still see Washington Detroit is very high, Ravens,

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Speaker 4: Bills still in the fifties, right, So does last week

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Speaker 4: factor into this week at all with the totals?

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Speaker 8: I wouldn't say it does. I mean it's it's a

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Speaker 8: completely different game each and every one of them, two

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Speaker 8: different match separate matchups all across the board. Because you

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Speaker 8: can look at the line and the Commanders lines are

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Speaker 8: very beat up on defense, I think everyone in the

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Speaker 8: world knows at this time they are getting some guys back,

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Speaker 8: but there's still a big injury, you know, gaps there,

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Speaker 8: and the Commanders can score, and frankly, their defense isn't

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Speaker 8: all back Brady either. So that's why you'll see a

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Speaker 8: mid fifties total in a game like that. And then

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Speaker 8: you look at tomorrow. Lots of weather and play that's

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Speaker 8: going to affect the game's big time too, which is

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Speaker 8: interesting to see Bill's Ravens still sitting at like fifty

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Speaker 8: one and a half right now, even with how cold

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Speaker 8: it's going to be up there. But yeah, it's it's

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Speaker 8: different every round.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it does seem like the totals last week were

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Speaker 6: a little bit higher than and I like some overs

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Speaker 6: too last week. And you know, I was fortunate that

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Speaker 6: we got that Tech crazy just Texans Chargers back and forth.

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Speaker 6: But I have seen speaking of and we haven't talked

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Speaker 6: about the Rams Eagles game yet. That's a good place

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Speaker 6: to focus here because I think of all the games

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Speaker 6: so far, obviously, that one I think has moved the

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Speaker 6: most with weather. I've seen it now two points off

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Speaker 6: the total from forty five now down to forty three

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Speaker 6: of all the games this weekend, is that the one

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Speaker 6: that you're targeting the most to be impacted by weather,

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Speaker 6: and that's why that totals moved significantly.

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Speaker 8: Gottay, it's going to be freezing in Philadelphia tomorrow and

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Speaker 8: you know the snow coming in, so that's definitely why

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Speaker 8: you see, you know, some money coming in on the

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Speaker 8: unders there or just in general the totals dropping.

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Speaker 1: You know, Seamus, When when I think about the AFC side,

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Speaker 1: I really do focus on the propensity of some of

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Speaker 1: these quarterbacks to run more than the NFC side. I

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Speaker 1: look at Mahomes obviously, Alan and Lamar in that matchup,

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Speaker 1: but CJ. Stroud recently has had to run for his

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Speaker 1: life a little bit. If you were going to take

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Speaker 1: a look at an overprop on any of those four guys,

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Speaker 1: which one do you think is going to be running

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Speaker 1: for his life the most or that's going to be

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Speaker 1: the key for success in their given matchup.

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Speaker 8: I could see Josh Allen doing it a little bit

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Speaker 8: of that. The Ravens defense has been lights out last

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Speaker 8: back half of the season, so I think he's gonna

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Speaker 8: have to create a lot with his legs, I think

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Speaker 8: to get the offense moving in Buffalo.

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Speaker 4: I agree, okay, Seamous, it's that time, Seamus Special. Are

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Speaker 4: we going football or you know Horizon League basketball?

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Speaker 8: Here? Oh? Yeah, okay, we are going with the Kansas

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Speaker 8: City Ruse men's basketball team play North Dakota. We're taking

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Speaker 8: the money line. I think they get it done. North

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Speaker 8: Dakota defense one of the worst in the country this year.

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Speaker 8: So we'll take Kansas City as a small dog. And

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Speaker 8: then you know, if you're into a Kansas City parlay,

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Speaker 8: you probably get.

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Speaker 3: A good price.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, if you're going to juice the odds up on

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Speaker 8: that fief's money line.

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Speaker 6: Oh league, we love the Summit League around these parts.

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Speaker 3: Big parlay that with the Chiefs money line or you

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Speaker 3: know what do you think.

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Speaker 8: I'm not in the business of handing out parlay winners.

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Speaker 8: If you want to, if you want to get a

1321
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 8: decent trice on the Chiefs money line, you know you

1322
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 8: can get plus money on Kansas City Ruse.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So.

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Speaker 4: Good as always, Shamous enjoyed the weekend, man, We'll catch

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Speaker 4: you soon.

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Speaker 8: Enjoy the games, guys.

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Speaker 3: You too.

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Speaker 4: There he is Seamous McGee, team lead of sports trading

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Speaker 4: at bet MGM.

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Speaker 3: That's awesome, you know, news. Yeah, what kind of curveball

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Speaker 3: you're gonna.

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Speaker 4: Hey, here's a curveball, right, Quinn Yours declaring for the

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Speaker 4: NFL Draft and reportedly bypassed an eight million dollar nil

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Speaker 4: offer from another school.

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Speaker 3: Wow, is this a smart move?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: But when's Quinn you?

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Speaker 4: Weres gonna get drafted? I think listen, it's the cam

1339
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Speaker 4: Ward situation. Cam Ward last year declared for the NFL

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Speaker 4: Draft and the next thing you knew he was going

1341
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Speaker 4: to Miami And now he's gonna be a top pick.

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Speaker 4: He might be the top pick when the draft rolls around.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know, Oh why Quinn yours? As of

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01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 4: right now, he's going to the NFL Draft, And I

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01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 4: don't know that it can change because hasn't the transfer

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01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 4: portal window come and gone for him. I don't know

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01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 4: that he can so go somewhere else in college.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little uh, it's a little fascinating where

1350
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 1: we are at in this conversation because we're reaching the

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01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 1: intersection where we're gonna find out for certain players, especially

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Speaker 1: at the quarterback position, because it's so visible and so

1353
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 1: bandied about where it actually where Where is the intersection

1354
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 1: where it's more profitable to stay in college football and

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Speaker 1: chase that dream and frankly that money, or you know,

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01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:44,439
Speaker 1: just relent and say, Okay, it's my time to spin

1357
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 1: the wheel and see where I get drafted to and

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Speaker 1: maybe that's where I make the bulk share of my money, because,

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Speaker 1: like we know, the NFL is completely different piece than

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Speaker 1: college football. We see plenty of college football quarterbacks really

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01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 1: flunk out of the NFL, even the great ones. And

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01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: so you know, the same way Brock Purdy can soar

1363
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: to success, you can have a there's major bus potential

1364
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 1: like a Trubisky or a Lance Like we've seen both

1365
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Speaker 1: sides of that coin.

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Speaker 3: So I'm curious how much NIL has changed that decision.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we have the full answer or the

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01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 1: full scope, and maybe we never will, but it is

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Speaker 1: going to change that dynamic dramatically.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think Quinn's a top top prospect, But

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Speaker 6: let's just look at it from like this is how

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Speaker 6: I would look at it from, like the outsider perspective.

1373
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 6: Which quarterback class do you feel or do you guys

1374
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 6: feel ers has a better chance to be drafted high

1375
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 6: in this year? Shador, cam Ward Jackson, Dart Jalen Milroe,

1376
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Speaker 6: Will Howard, Kyle McCord, or next year, Drew Aller, Garrett

1377
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Speaker 6: nus Meyer, k Club Nick Carson Beck. Like, I think

1378
01:08:57,520 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 6: Quinn's got a much better chance to be taken higher

1379
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 6: in that realm than this year, which I think it's

1380
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 6: pretty set the camp Ward is going to be the

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01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 6: top pick, Like I kind of think that's the direction

1382
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 6: that everyone's kind of moving in, And I think.

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Speaker 5: Shador is going to be the next one.

1384
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 6: So you're talking about at best, and he's not going

1385
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 6: to be the third quarterback taken, but at best, I

1386
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 6: think quin Ewers is looking to QB three in this draft.

1387
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Speaker 6: Next year he's got a chance to be at least

1388
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Speaker 6: QB two, maybe even QB one. Like, I mean, I

1389
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 6: know Drew Aller is kind of getting the buzz, but

1390
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 6: I'll be honest, when I watched Drew Aller, I don't

1391
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 6: get QB one buzz, But.

1392
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 5: When outside of that, I just want to get buzzed.

1393
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 3: Him, want to get handed, get rid of those happy feet, bud.

1394
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 6: But no, I think I think next year is his

1395
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 6: best chance to be a number one quarterback. So like,

1396
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:51,599
Speaker 6: what advice is he getting?

1397
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 3: Well?

1398
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,600
Speaker 4: And I also think too is which quarterback is in

1399
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 4: a better spot. Would you rather be Carson Beck right

1400
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:02,639
Speaker 4: now going to Miami and maybe improving your draft stock

1401
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 4: like cam Ward did, Or would you rather be quin

1402
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 4: yours right here, right now entering the NFL draft?

1403
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:10,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would do so.

1404
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 4: I don't know, But can I give you another side

1405
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 4: ramp built on Quinn viewers here just real fast, because

1406
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 4: arch Manning is gonna be the guy at Texas and

1407
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 4: he might be much better than Quinn Eewers. But all

1408
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 4: of the talk, like specifically against Ohio State, where it's

1409
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 4: like put arch Manning in the game as if he's

1410
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 4: automatically going to be better than Quinn yours. I just

1411
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 4: I don't know where you guys are at with that.

1412
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 4: I completely disagreed with it. Sure there's a chance, think

1413
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:45,759
Speaker 4: about Tua replaced Jalen Hurtz at halftime of the National

1414
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 4: Championship game right against Georgia and play lights out, So

1415
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 4: it's possible quin Ewers would have done better. He's had

1416
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 4: little to no experience so far and he's just gonna

1417
01:10:57,080 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 4: ball out against Ohio State. Like, let's not mix up

1418
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 4: possibly playing better than Quinn yours with certainly playing better

1419
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 4: than Quinn, you weres his.

1420
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 3: One play fumbled right right, and they called them down

1421
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 3: by contact.

1422
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 4: Like, why are we acting like it would have been

1423
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 4: a certainty that arch Manning would have balled out and Quinn,

1424
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 4: you were sucks.

1425
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 3: I just never agreed with that.

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01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 1: I I I think, yes, we I mean that is

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01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:25,560
Speaker 1: common ground we share because you know what I'm not

1428
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 1: saying all the time, but in football, a lot of

1429
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 1: the a lot of the time, the evil you know

1430
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 1: is in fact better than the evil you don't.

1431
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 3: And what I mean by that is your your.

1432
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 5: Experiences typically don't lie to you.

1433
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:40,519
Speaker 3: You know, if if you if you, if.

1434
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 1: You are testing the untested, usually it fails even even

1435
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 1: above the.

1436
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:51,679
Speaker 3: The the the proven path that has yielded low results.

1437
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 1: Like now, don't get me wrong, to the risk takers

1438
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 1: sometimes go the spoils. The Kansas City Chiefs had a

1439
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 1: competent quarterback who was getting them to the playoffs year

1440
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 1: after year. They were double digit win team with Alex Smith,

1441
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 1: and they rolled the dice and said, hey, we really

1442
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 1: like this kid out of Texas Tech, and they the

1443
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 1: gamble paid off for them, and they replaced Alex Smith

1444
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 1: and Patrick Mahomes became Patrick mahomes.

1445
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 3: But how many teams have flunked that that risk assessment?

1446
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 3: And and I agree with you.

1447
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 1: I think, yes, maybe Arch Manning turns into Peyton Manning

1448
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 1: one day and we speak about him in the same

1449
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 1: in the same way. But maybe Arch Manning turns into

1450
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 1: what's the name of the brother we don't talk about,

1451
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 1: Jasper Manning? Yeah, I mean whatever his David John Manning. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1452
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 1: bad Manning, whatever they named him.

1453
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 5: I don't know. But but you catch my drift, and

1454
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 5: I agree with you. I think it's uh.

1455
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 1: I think it's one of those things where everybody looks

1456
01:12:55,120 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 1: at the the the the gift wrap package on this

1457
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 1: shelf and assumes it's gonna be way better than the

1458
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 1: toy I have in my hand. And the answer is

1459
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 1: not all the time.

1460
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 3: Not all the time.

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01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 5: Here's where they should have went to Arch Yes, and

1462
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 5: goal at the one.

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01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 3: Absolutely totally agree with you.

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01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 6: That like that, that's like the low hanging fruit of

1465
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 6: get your quarterback. That is like because in that situation,

1466
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 6: it's like getting the extra blocker. The running back turns

1467
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 6: into the extra hat and it allows so many more

1468
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 6: things to open up in the run game. And then

1469
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 6: calling a toss pitch where you're throwing it five yards

1470
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 6: back is just asenine. But in general, yeah, you don't

1471
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 6: just bench the guy that got you there. You know

1472
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 6: what's that you you know the prize. You don't put

1473
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:42,560
Speaker 6: your your prize horse and that got you there in

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01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:44,640
Speaker 6: the in the stable when the big race is coming. Like,

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01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 6: I don't want of those like Kentucky Derby quotes, but

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01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 6: I think in general, you just have to pick your

1477
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 6: spots with Arch. But now there's no more spots to

1478
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 6: be picked now he's the guy. Yeah, no doubt it'll

1479
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 6: be interesting to see going forward. But man, that's just

1480
01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 6: a tough spot.

1481
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 4: I think there is under selling how tough of a

1482
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 4: spot that was to just be like, hey, Arch, go

1483
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 4: in there and see what you can do against the

1484
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 4: buck guys here.

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01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 6: I know you're sure had more packages for him in

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01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 6: that game.

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01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:11,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, they should have. They should have. But

1488
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 4: we're acting like that guy's a season vet and he's not.

1489
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 4: So I don't know that it's a certainty he would

1490
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:19,839
Speaker 4: have outplayed Quinn Eewers.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that at all.

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Speaker 6: reasons why, Well, obviously we need Jayden and Daniels to

1523
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 6: have a good game if Washington wants any chance to

1524
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 6: be in this one. And the game script says they're

1525
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 6: gonna behind, so I think Danga's gonna be running it

1526
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 6: a lot.

1527
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 5: And the Lions blitz a ton, second highest blitz rate

1528
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 5: in the NFL this year.

1529
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 6: When you blitz, you activate the quarterbacks legs, and I

1530
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 6: think that's gonna be a factor. And Detroit's giving up

1531
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 6: the fourth most rushing yards allowed the quarterbacks this year. So,

1532
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 6: Jade and Daniel, if you're gonna do it in your arm,

1533
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 6: that's great, but I think his legs are gonna be

1534
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 6: a huge factor in this game. Over fifty five and

1535
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:36,759
Speaker 6: a half rushing yards for the Commanders keeping.

1536
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:37,720
Speaker 3: Ran all right.

1537
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 1: I'm also gonna go with the Commanders player on the

1538
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 1: receiving end of Jaden Daniels Terry McLaurin anytime touchdown. Mclauren

1539
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:48,679
Speaker 1: has scored a touchdown in six of his last seven,

1540
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 1: including postseason. McLaurin, I think is going to benefit from

1541
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 1: what I'm going to forecast as a negative game script

1542
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 1: for the Washington Commanders. They're gonna be playing like their

1543
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 1: behind early because they're gonna want to get a lead,

1544
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 1: especially on the road, and get the Detroit Lions fans

1545
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:07,760
Speaker 1: out of the game.

1546
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:09,720
Speaker 3: So they're gonna be heaving it downfield.

1547
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:11,640
Speaker 1: And who are they gonna gave it to, Well, the

1548
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 1: guy who led them in touchdowns this season, Terry mclaure,

1549
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 1: give me the receiver anytime touchdown.

1550
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 3: Do you like crazy? No at all? You know?

1551
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:24,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Prop, that's actually my favorite part.

1552
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 3: It's the best.

1553
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 4: No, Like what I fade Zach Eaty rebounds at Purdue,

1554
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 4: you know after has like twenty boards or whatever.

1555
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 6: Like that's some really good contrarian takes on the show.

1556
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 3: You really have, Thank you. I appreciate that. Or like

1557
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 3: what is it Alex Orgy.

1558
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, probably best.

1559
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:52,639
Speaker 3: The rushing the rushing prop or the passing probably yeah, yeah,

1560
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:55,640
Speaker 3: where it was like over twenty six yards, yeah, like

1561
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:56,599
Speaker 3: seven yards.

1562
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 4: I'm going to take Saquon Barkley under wow and a half.

1563
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:05,959
Speaker 6: Wow.

1564
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know, I know all the

1565
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:12,680
Speaker 3: reasons why not to.

1566
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 4: He rushed for two fifty five and two touchdowns against

1567
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 4: the Rams.

1568
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 3: The Rams front seven little undersized. I get it. You

1569
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 3: might have weather here, even more incentive to run the ball.

1570
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 4: We're talking about one hundred and eleven rushing yards in

1571
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 4: a freaking playoff game.

1572
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 3: Many Here's the other thing. Kalen Hurts through for one

1573
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty one yards last week against the Packers.

1574
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 3: He did the Rams.

1575
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 4: They have to be going into this game saying, do

1576
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 4: everything you can to slow Saquon Barkley down. True, make

1577
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts beat us. They they have to be doing

1578
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 4: that now. Again, it's easier said than done. But I

1579
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 4: like the path toward a Saquon Barkley un ear. He

1580
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 4: could still go crazy and be under this total.

1581
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 3: That's why I'm going on.

1582
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 6: I think Gainwell is going to have a factor in

1583
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 6: the game too, so that that matters. And I'm actually

1584
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 6: as we speak right now, I am seeing under money

1585
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 6: come in on this Ram Eagles game. I think the

1586
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 6: weather in Philly is gonna get at least based off

1587
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 6: of this number move not a great forecast, so offense

1588
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 6: could be at a premium.

1589
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 3: So what Notre Dame overs are you guys taking?

1590
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 5: I bet it under on Bo Collins receiving yards, but

1591
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 5: that's because he's hurt. That's an under.

1592
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:37,760
Speaker 3: I bet note I gave out Notre Dame. It's good.

1593
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 6: The video will be published tomorrow, I think on the

1594
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 6: bed MGM socials, I mean on the Fox Sports Radio

1595
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 6: socials for the bed MGM thing.

1596
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 3: I'm all Notre Dame. All right, all right, coming up next.

1597
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 3: It is not a good recipe when your leader is tight.

1598
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 3: We'll explain playoffs. Oh what is going on?

1599
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 5: Good morning?

1600
01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:59,600
Speaker 4: As we get you set for the divisional round of

1601
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:04,599
Speaker 4: the play offs and also the National Championship game on Monday.

1602
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 4: I want to make a statement and see if you

1603
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 4: guys agree with this. Okay, I think that teams often

1604
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 4: resemble the personality of either their head coach or their

1605
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 4: best player.

1606
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 3: Would you agree with that in general? Yes? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1607
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 3: I would. All right. I was wondering if I know

1608
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 3: I had to pause and think for a second, but yeah,

1609
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 3: I agree. Rich was like, let me think this through.

1610
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 3: I tend to like to argue with you.

1611
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 5: That's good.

1612
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 3: I love that.

1613
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 4: But I think of the Lions for instance, right, Dan

1614
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 4: Campbell's personality is the engine of that team. They play

1615
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 4: the way he is, right, And so I think if

1616
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:57,680
Speaker 4: you you could play that game with a lot of

1617
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 4: other teams. If you look at Ohio State, I think

1618
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 4: sometimes they resemble the bad qualities of Ryan Day. Ryan

1619
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:12,759
Speaker 4: Day gets tight, He's just tight, and that's how Ohio

1620
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 4: State will play at times. Look at the game against Michigan,

1621
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 4: look at multiple games against Michigan.

1622
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 3: You got tight Ryan Day, and you got a tight.

1623
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 4: Football team, and it's a thirteen to ten, ugly game, Like,

1624
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 4: how is this game happening right now? That's my question

1625
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 4: with Notre Dame. Can they get off to a good

1626
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 4: enough start where Ryan Day gets tight, Ohio State gets tight,

1627
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 4: They're a big favorite. What's happening over here? And they

1628
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 4: just start to panic a little bit. I'll give you

1629
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 4: another example. In a win, Ohio State crushed Indiana thirty

1630
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 4: eight to fifteen, and Ohio State scored a touchdown in

1631
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 4: the final minute, and so after the game. Jenny Taft

1632
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 4: was like, so why did you go for that last

1633
01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:01,479
Speaker 4: touchdown at the end, and Ryan Day said, we said,

1634
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:06,680
Speaker 4: leave no doubt. These are the Ohio State Buckeyes, and

1635
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:09,719
Speaker 4: just being scared where we going to be in the polls?

1636
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 3: What if? This what he's tight?

1637
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 4: He coaches scared sometimes and that's sometimes what Ohio State reflects.

1638
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:20,679
Speaker 3: And so if Notre Dame can get off.

1639
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 4: To a decent start, and that's possible, I want to

1640
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 4: see if Ohio State gets tight, because they very well might.

1641
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 3: I live on the West Coast.

1642
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 5: I grew up on the East Coast.

1643
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 1: I uh. This past week, actually, I was back in

1644
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:37,679
Speaker 1: New York visiting family and I look across the couch

1645
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 1: from me.

1646
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 5: I'm looking at my dad and he's sitting on the couch.

1647
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 3: All right.

1648
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 1: We're watching I think the local news was on, and

1649
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 1: we're just chatting, and he's he's got his legs, legs

1650
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:50,880
Speaker 1: crossed at his ankles, his legs are straight out off

1651
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:54,839
Speaker 1: the couch. He's leaned back in his chair, his fingers

1652
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 1: are intertwined and crossed over his chest, and he's watching

1653
01:22:57,920 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 1: the TV.

1654
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 5: I looked at him, and then I look down and.

1655
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 3: I was sitting the exact same way. A.

1656
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:09,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, I'm almost forty. I'm gonna turn thirty nine

1657
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:13,560
Speaker 1: in February. My dad, Wow, me too. Oh there you go,

1658
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 1: my dad.

1659
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 3: I haven't lived with my dad since I'm eighteen years old.

1660
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:20,879
Speaker 1: I moved out of the house to play college football

1661
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 1: at Penn State and I've never lived with him since then.

1662
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 1: But my dad's my teacher. He was my role model

1663
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 1: growing up. You absorb things from your role model. So

1664
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 1: everything you're saying, because coaching is parenting, everything you're saying

1665
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 1: is one hundred percent true, Brian. Your players are a

1666
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 1: reflection of your personality if you're a coach. That's how

1667
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 1: this works. So there are teams that play tight because

1668
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 1: their coach is tight. There are teams that play forrenetic

1669
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 1: because their coach is frenetic. There are teams that, in

1670
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 1: the final minutes of a game, are organized and they

1671
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:04,680
Speaker 1: are theyccomplished tasks that that people don't really understand how

1672
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 1: they could be prepared for. But it's because their coach

1673
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 1: has an insane situational awareness and a wealth of knowledge

1674
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 1: in games in that moment. Belichick being an example, right,

1675
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:19,680
Speaker 1: Andy Reid being an example. Your players are a reflection

1676
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 1: of your personality. So I one hundred percent agree with

1677
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 1: that assessment. And you know what, the younger the coach,

1678
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 1: the harder it is for a team typically, or the

1679
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 1: less experienced a head coach, the harder it is typically

1680
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 1: for a team to figure out their identity because that

1681
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 1: coach doesn't even know their identity yet. So it takes

1682
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 1: time to groom your personality as a head coach with

1683
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 1: all those responsibilities. But just like I was sitting looking

1684
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 1: across from my dad, like, oh wow, that we got

1685
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 1: I learned that from him, that that wasn't something that

1686
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:55,640
Speaker 1: you're born doing. You know, little babies don't sit on

1687
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 1: their couch with their legs crossed. That there are, but

1688
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 1: but you learn it from somewhere, and so so that

1689
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 1: personality or those traits transfer.

1690
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 3: So I agree, Ohio State, they will be for good

1691
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 3: or for bad a reflection of Ryan Day.

1692
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 6: Can we just take a second to acknowledge the universe

1693
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 6: bringing Rich and I together. Went to the same school,

1694
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 6: born in the same month, the same age, and the

1695
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:19,800
Speaker 6: same city, didn't have any idea that we were going

1696
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 6: to be doing the show together three years ago, and

1697
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:24,640
Speaker 6: now it's just again. Universe works in weird ways. The

1698
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 6: universe also works in weird ways. Because we got a

1699
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 6: glimpse into this game last year. Why teams played each other?

1700
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:32,720
Speaker 3: Hey about that?

1701
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:37,480
Speaker 6: And I know that the personnel's obviously different. Both quarterbacks

1702
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 6: are different. The defense is dramatically different for Notre Dame.

1703
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 6: In fact, ten out of the eleven starters on that

1704
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 6: team last year defensively not even playing this year. And

1705
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 6: I think that is obviously you know, it apples to oranges.

1706
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:54,439
Speaker 6: But the scheme and the way that Notre Dame plays

1707
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 6: I think is still the same under Marcus Freeman. Going

1708
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 6: back to the head coach analogy and the first line

1709
01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:04,760
Speaker 6: that I wrote from this game in my preview, in

1710
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 6: my analysis, the way I feel the game will play out,

1711
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:12,840
Speaker 6: Notre Dame has what is required to take Ohio State

1712
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 6: into the deep end and test their lung capacity, force

1713
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:19,599
Speaker 6: the Buck guys to out execute, patients and discipline. Obviously,

1714
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 6: Ohio State is the more talented football team. They are

1715
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 6: the goliath in this scenario. But David, I think, is smarter,

1716
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 6: and I think David is better coached, and I think

1717
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:34,599
Speaker 6: if things get tight late, I think David Notre Dame

1718
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 6: is better suited to out execute and make fewer mistakes.

1719
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:43,559
Speaker 6: The Buckeys did win that game last year. Notre Dame

1720
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:46,439
Speaker 6: dominated time of possession. They did a really good job

1721
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 6: on Marvin Harrison Junior three catches for thirty two yards.

1722
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 6: The problem was by bracketing Marvin Harrison Junior on the outside,

1723
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:55,639
Speaker 6: which is what you think they would do to Jeremiah Smith.

1724
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 6: It allowed Agbuka to have a huge game and kind

1725
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:01,000
Speaker 6: of be the game breaker. Seven catches for ninety six

1726
01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:03,720
Speaker 6: yards out of the slot. Typically egg Buka's in the

1727
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 6: slot about eighty five ninety percent of the time. That's

1728
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 6: the cat and mouse game. Can you bracket both Jeremiah

1729
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:13,000
Speaker 6: Smith and eg Metagbuka and forced Ohio State to run

1730
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:14,640
Speaker 6: the ball, which have actually done really well this year

1731
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 6: thanks to Chip Kelly's unique run scheme. So it's going

1732
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 6: to be pick your poison. But if things get tight late,

1733
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:26,080
Speaker 6: to Brian's point, I think Notre Dame has a little

1734
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:29,639
Speaker 6: bit more of that moxie to not make the mistake

1735
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:30,760
Speaker 6: to cost them the game.

1736
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:34,880
Speaker 4: You know what, I'm glad that you brought up last

1737
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:39,360
Speaker 4: year's game where Ohio State won seventeen to fourteen close

1738
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:42,599
Speaker 4: game Notre Dame at the very end only had ten

1739
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:43,559
Speaker 4: men on the field.

1740
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:44,840
Speaker 3: That whole thing.

1741
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 4: And famously, after the game, Ryan Day went on this

1742
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:54,240
Speaker 4: epic rant because Lou Holtz before the game, he brought

1743
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 4: up that Ohio State when they lose games, they lose

1744
01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:01,679
Speaker 4: to the more physical team, which was true, and Ryan

1745
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 4: Day got all upset about it. And listen to tight

1746
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:07,840
Speaker 4: Ryan Day. This is last year after Ohio State beat

1747
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:08,559
Speaker 4: Notre Dame.

1748
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:10,680
Speaker 3: Check this out. I like to know where Holtz is

1749
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 3: right now.

1750
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 5: What he said about our team.

1751
01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:16,639
Speaker 3: I cannot believe. That's a tough team right here. We're

1752
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:18,080
Speaker 3: proud to be from Ohio.

1753
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:21,679
Speaker 1: It's always been Ohio against the world, the Ohio against

1754
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 1: the world.

1755
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 3: But I'll tell you what, I love those kids who

1756
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 3: got a tough team. What a jackass. Yeah, I agree that.

1757
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 3: You're right, dude, like that.

1758
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:38,639
Speaker 4: That's again, that's tight Ryan Day. Yes, you know it's

1759
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 4: overreacting to something that was said Holts. But that's the

1760
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:47,720
Speaker 4: thing though, real fast, Rich You're good. Hold on that

1761
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 4: thought though, don't lose it. That's why I think it

1762
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 4: matters in this game because Jared said this Ohio State

1763
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 4: has more talent. Look at their wide receivers. Compared to

1764
01:28:55,800 --> 01:29:00,320
Speaker 4: Notre Dames wide receivers. Look at Notre Dame's offense gonna

1765
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 4: score points right, Like, there are many reasons on paper

1766
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:09,519
Speaker 4: to favor Ohio State unless the game gets tight, right,

1767
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 4: do you have more confidence that Notre Dame is gonna

1768
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 4: be loose enough to win a game or do you

1769
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:18,720
Speaker 4: have more confidence that Ohio State is going to be

1770
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 4: loose enough as a big favorite.

1771
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 3: To win a game like this.

1772
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:25,120
Speaker 4: I just see panic written all over them if they're

1773
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 4: in a game in the fourth quarter. And so that's

1774
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 4: why I think having a head coach and that personality

1775
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:35,000
Speaker 4: could screw Ohio State. I could absolutely see it happening.

1776
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 1: Buckeye fans are probably not gonna like this, although it

1777
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 1: really depends on what side of the fence you fall

1778
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:46,400
Speaker 1: on in terms of your allegiance to or your interest

1779
01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 1: in moving on from Ryan Day. But I think Ryan

1780
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 1: Day is a veteran coach who acts like a rookie coach.

1781
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:56,000
Speaker 1: I think that Ryan Day was handed the keys to

1782
01:29:56,160 --> 01:30:03,679
Speaker 1: a very very well oil, well timed, well tuned up machine,

1783
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:06,680
Speaker 1: and he hasn't screwed it up. He hasn't gummed up

1784
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:10,559
Speaker 1: the works at all. He's kept the motor clean. He's

1785
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 1: kept it going, but it was never his, It was

1786
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 1: never authentically his. Like this isn't he Ryan Day didn't

1787
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:23,400
Speaker 1: build Ohio State into the powerhouse.

1788
01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:24,839
Speaker 3: It is recently.

1789
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:26,719
Speaker 1: I mean, don't get me wrong, they have long history

1790
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:29,679
Speaker 1: what he haes, you know, but this was Urban Meyer's

1791
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:33,760
Speaker 1: machine and he inherited it. And I'm not saying I'm

1792
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:35,759
Speaker 1: not saying that he can't do a great job because

1793
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 1: like sometimes happens, sometimes the predecessor is surpassed by the student, right,

1794
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you know, the master trains the student

1795
01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 1: and the student becomes the master. And you know, I

1796
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 1: like Bill Parcell's, you know, coach Bill Belichick, and there's

1797
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 1: no question who's the better head coach now when we

1798
01:30:58,439 --> 01:31:02,720
Speaker 1: look back retrospective at their NFL careers. But but I

1799
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:05,760
Speaker 1: don't see that being the case with Ryan Day. I

1800
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 1: feel like Ryan Day's faking.

1801
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 3: The funk a little bit. Like when I hear it,

1802
01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:14,640
Speaker 3: when I hear Dan Campbell talk, I'm like that that

1803
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:15,360
Speaker 3: guy is.

1804
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:16,800
Speaker 5: That guy authentic?

1805
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 3: Thank you? Yes, that guy is that guy.

1806
01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 1: I would run through a damn wall for Dan Campbell

1807
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 1: right now after a pump up speech. If Ryan Day

1808
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:28,720
Speaker 1: was in my living room, I'd say get out, get

1809
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:32,200
Speaker 1: the hell out, because I don't. We don't got time

1810
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 1: for this. You know what, I haven't had coffee yet. Ryan,

1811
01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 1: get out of my house. But if Dan Campbell came in,

1812
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:41,280
Speaker 1: he would be my cup of coffee. Because that's that dude.

1813
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:43,639
Speaker 1: I don't need to hear from Ryan Day. I don't

1814
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:46,880
Speaker 1: need him to attack, you know, no offense, but a

1815
01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:52,479
Speaker 1: geriatric former coach opining over his current football program because

1816
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:54,439
Speaker 1: what for cloud get lost?

1817
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 3: That's stupid.

1818
01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:59,680
Speaker 1: But when Dan Campbell gets fired up, I get fired up.

1819
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:02,760
Speaker 1: A coach to your personality, not to the personality you

1820
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:05,680
Speaker 1: wish to have. That's my problem with a lot of

1821
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:11,040
Speaker 1: coaches is they're pretending. Don't pretend be who you are.

1822
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:14,879
Speaker 1: I promise you you'll earn more, You'll earn more respect.

1823
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 1: Can you still have success pretending.

1824
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:17,520
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

1825
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:19,639
Speaker 1: There's a lot of pretenders with a lot of money

1826
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:22,960
Speaker 1: in their pockets and a lot of you know, pats

1827
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:24,880
Speaker 1: on the back, and we know how this world works.

1828
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:30,840
Speaker 1: But the ones who cut through, like Jordan talking about

1829
01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:35,000
Speaker 1: all the naysayers even though he's on top, sounds authentic

1830
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:37,520
Speaker 1: because Michael Jordan is an assassin.

1831
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:39,679
Speaker 5: Ryan Day sounds like a poser.

1832
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:42,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a saying that I love and I use

1833
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:46,400
Speaker 6: it in my industry a lot because it's very prevalent.

1834
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:50,679
Speaker 6: When you're good at something, you want to tell everyone.

1835
01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 6: When you're great at it, they'll tell you. And that's

1836
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:55,680
Speaker 6: Ryan Day in a nutshell, Like he has to go

1837
01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:57,400
Speaker 6: out and tell people that Ohio State's tough.

1838
01:32:57,720 --> 01:32:57,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1839
01:32:58,000 --> 01:32:59,680
Speaker 6: If you have to go out and tell people that

1840
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:02,200
Speaker 6: you're football teams tough, your team ain't that though, that's

1841
01:33:02,240 --> 01:33:03,480
Speaker 6: a great point.

1842
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:06,240
Speaker 3: That like that, that's just the vibe I get for.

1843
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:08,519
Speaker 6: And don't get me wrong, Ohio State could go out there,

1844
01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:12,280
Speaker 6: play their best game physically and dominate the national championship

1845
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:16,599
Speaker 6: game without putting any mental anguish into the situation.

1846
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:19,680
Speaker 5: I don't think it's going to be that easy. Just

1847
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:20,240
Speaker 5: my vibe.

1848
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:23,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that what you said right there too,

1849
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:25,160
Speaker 3: And I just think of him and it's always gonna

1850
01:33:25,160 --> 01:33:28,240
Speaker 3: be Ohio and it's no, it's not.

1851
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:32,160
Speaker 5: We have a twenty million dollar roster. Shut up, sir,

1852
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:36,240
Speaker 5: don't play football. Tries me crazy.

1853
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:38,679
Speaker 9: It tries me crazy if he got up in front

1854
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 9: of me against like, because that's the.

1855
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:44,120
Speaker 1: Other thing is like we forget that these aren't robots.

1856
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 1: These are human beings with personalities too, who are in

1857
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:49,320
Speaker 1: those rooms. And trust me, we can smell a fake also,

1858
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:53,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We when when somebody sash's

1859
01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:56,600
Speaker 1: into the room stinking of just for men and fake bravado,

1860
01:33:57,240 --> 01:34:01,400
Speaker 1: We know it, okay, So don't don't you could?

1861
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:02,360
Speaker 3: You could sell?

1862
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:05,680
Speaker 1: My dad actually had an old thing that he used

1863
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 1: to say to us all the time, and it's it's

1864
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:09,880
Speaker 1: not his obviously it's been used in bastardized and whatever.

1865
01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:12,679
Speaker 3: But you can fool some people all the time.

1866
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:15,679
Speaker 1: You can feel fool all the people some of the time,

1867
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:19,519
Speaker 1: but you can't fool everybody all the time. And when

1868
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:23,439
Speaker 1: you're faking it, you'll get found out eventually. And I

1869
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 1: just I wish he was just a smidge more authentic,

1870
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:31,960
Speaker 1: because there's there's likable qualities about Ryan Day, and he

1871
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 1: is a really good coach, and there are good things

1872
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:38,200
Speaker 1: that are happening for a house state, the players, the

1873
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:42,439
Speaker 1: money that that university is generating, the players getting paid

1874
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:44,599
Speaker 1: the way they're getting I'm in support of it all,

1875
01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:47,960
Speaker 1: but when he speaks sometimes it grates on my nerves

1876
01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:50,960
Speaker 1: because it smacks of inauthenticity.

1877
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:54,640
Speaker 3: And and it wafts of desperation.

1878
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:57,479
Speaker 5: And that is a stinky cologne, my friends.

1879
01:34:57,680 --> 01:35:01,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it sounds like you're describing another coach that

1880
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:07,080
Speaker 4: left Notre Dame named Brian. That's such a perfect saying, right,

1881
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:11,200
Speaker 4: great head coach, he can coach authentic.

1882
01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:13,840
Speaker 5: No, how's that Southern accent coming?

1883
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:14,200
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1884
01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:21,000
Speaker 3: My family, My family from Massachusetts.

1885
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:24,480
Speaker 4: Right, that's right, from the sticks of Massachusetts.

1886
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:25,120
Speaker 3: That's right.

1887
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:29,719
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1889
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Speaker 3: I'm Brian. No football is here.

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Speaker 4: we got the Rams at the Eagles. This game is tomorrow,

1906
01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:35,559
Speaker 4: Eagles favored by six, could be a weather game. Total

1907
01:36:35,680 --> 01:36:40,040
Speaker 4: is forty two, could be nasty. Here's my question. Are

1908
01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 4: the Eagles good enough to win with their secondary pitch? Okay,

1909
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:49,200
Speaker 4: so think about this. This is the old Bill Belichick thing.

1910
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:52,560
Speaker 4: Bill Belichick would go into games and say, you're not

1911
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:56,400
Speaker 4: going to win by beating us with what you do best.

1912
01:36:56,960 --> 01:36:59,200
Speaker 4: You know, it's gonna have to be something else. And

1913
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:01,160
Speaker 4: you see this time and time and time again when

1914
01:37:01,200 --> 01:37:03,719
Speaker 4: he was in New England when they played the Chiefs.

1915
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:07,000
Speaker 4: It's like, guess what Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce they're

1916
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:10,120
Speaker 4: gonna do next to nothing And the Chiefs are like,

1917
01:37:10,240 --> 01:37:13,439
Speaker 4: wait what, that's a a big part of what we do. Yeah,

1918
01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:15,840
Speaker 4: they're not gonna do anything. We've got ways we can

1919
01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:18,960
Speaker 4: bracket them, we can throw different looks at them. Travis

1920
01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:22,280
Speaker 4: Kelce had two games against the Patriots, twenty three receiving

1921
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 4: yards in each of them.

1922
01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:25,240
Speaker 3: It's like, what else you got?

1923
01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:28,559
Speaker 4: And in one of those games, the AFC title game,

1924
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:30,400
Speaker 4: it was like, well, we don't have any other answers.

1925
01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:32,320
Speaker 4: Got shut out in the first half. It took them

1926
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:35,680
Speaker 4: a while to get their sea legs right. Same thing

1927
01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 4: super Bowl fifty three. Oh guess what, rams six man

1928
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:42,320
Speaker 4: defensive front screws up your running game, all your play

1929
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:42,920
Speaker 4: action stuff.

1930
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:46,080
Speaker 3: What else you got? Oh? Nothing? Apparently you scored three points.

1931
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:49,200
Speaker 3: We went right. So that's what I wonder with the Eagles.

1932
01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:54,120
Speaker 4: Sakwan Barkley has been magnificent this season, but if he

1933
01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:57,599
Speaker 4: is held in check, is their passing game good enough

1934
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:00,719
Speaker 4: to beat the best teams the NFL has to offer?

1935
01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:04,160
Speaker 4: And the regular season says no things can change in

1936
01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:07,880
Speaker 4: the playoffs, But the Eagles were twenty ninth in passing

1937
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:12,800
Speaker 4: yards per game with aj Brown, DeVante Smith, Dallas Goddard, Like,

1938
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:15,639
Speaker 4: what is going on here? I know they relied heavily

1939
01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:18,000
Speaker 4: on Saquon, but Jalen Hurts gotta be a whole lot

1940
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:20,720
Speaker 4: better in the playoffs, and I'm not sure he will be.

1941
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:24,080
Speaker 1: I liked what Tom Brady said, and I'm going to

1942
01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:28,080
Speaker 1: paraphrase when he was asked about Jalen Hurts. He said,

1943
01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:32,240
Speaker 1: you know, certain players are stars. He was like, and

1944
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:35,680
Speaker 1: then there are champions. And he said, you know, this

1945
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:38,599
Speaker 1: is nothing against stars, because there's a lot of stars.

1946
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:42,240
Speaker 1: There's great stars. There's players who you know, they load

1947
01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:44,639
Speaker 1: up the stat box. But champions find a way to win.

1948
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:48,919
Speaker 1: And he was being complimentary of Jalen Hurts because obviously

1949
01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:52,719
Speaker 1: where he came from college football wise, what he's done

1950
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:54,559
Speaker 1: in this league since he's been a quarterback.

1951
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:57,240
Speaker 3: He finds a way to win a lot, and he

1952
01:38:57,320 --> 01:38:58,880
Speaker 3: finds a way to be in the.

1953
01:38:58,920 --> 01:39:02,200
Speaker 1: Conversation a lot at the top of the league where

1954
01:39:02,240 --> 01:39:05,439
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, can he get it done if X,

1955
01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:08,640
Speaker 1: Y or Z happens, Well, champions find a way. Now,

1956
01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:12,240
Speaker 1: he proved himself at the collegiate level were I think

1957
01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:14,639
Speaker 1: we're waiting to see Superman emerge.

1958
01:39:14,920 --> 01:39:17,000
Speaker 3: At the NFL level, he was close.

1959
01:39:17,640 --> 01:39:23,719
Speaker 1: He made a really obvious costly era or error against

1960
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:27,880
Speaker 1: the Chiefs in the Super Bowl that the Eagles lost

1961
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:30,080
Speaker 1: to the Chiefs. But other than that, he played a

1962
01:39:30,160 --> 01:39:33,360
Speaker 1: fantastic game. I mean, there's no doubt when you look

1963
01:39:33,360 --> 01:39:36,360
Speaker 1: at Patrick Mahomes, he's a champion. And that's the reason why,

1964
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:39,719
Speaker 1: to a nauseating extent, you have to accept what seems

1965
01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:43,760
Speaker 1: the inevitable when it comes to Patrick Mahomes, because he

1966
01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:45,240
Speaker 1: is that guy.

1967
01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:47,880
Speaker 3: Can Jalen Hurts do it?

1968
01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:51,120
Speaker 1: If the Rams or any team find a way to

1969
01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:54,800
Speaker 1: tie the Eagles hands behind their back, and they say

1970
01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:58,120
Speaker 1: to them, if they can accomplish defensively what few teams

1971
01:39:58,160 --> 01:40:00,479
Speaker 1: have been able to do and stop or a very

1972
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:03,400
Speaker 1: least slow down Saquon Barkley to say, hey, Jalen Hurts,

1973
01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:06,559
Speaker 1: now you go out and be the playoff team on your.

1974
01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:09,439
Speaker 3: Own answer that question is, I'm not sure. I believe

1975
01:40:09,520 --> 01:40:10,040
Speaker 3: he can do it.

1976
01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:15,000
Speaker 1: Maybe not this season, maybe not with these pieces in place.

1977
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:18,320
Speaker 1: And if not this season with these pieces in place,

1978
01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:21,720
Speaker 1: because he's got a pretty good surrounding cast, then when

1979
01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:24,560
Speaker 1: when is it ever going to be better than it

1980
01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:25,240
Speaker 1: is right now?

1981
01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:26,920
Speaker 3: The answer is probably not.

1982
01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:31,679
Speaker 1: So I have real doubts as to whether Jalen Hurts

1983
01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:35,400
Speaker 1: is going to be that guy for the Philadelphia Eagles

1984
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:38,240
Speaker 1: or potentially for anybody. I think I think a lot

1985
01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:41,799
Speaker 1: of his success isn't circumstantial. I think he's a talented

1986
01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:44,840
Speaker 1: football player, but I do think he has limitations, and

1987
01:40:44,920 --> 01:40:49,360
Speaker 1: I do think in the postseason those limitations start to

1988
01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:50,320
Speaker 1: unveil themselves.

1989
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:54,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, in the last like thirty minutes, we've seen a

1990
01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:58,599
Speaker 6: whole point get shaved off this total wow. And it's

1991
01:40:58,680 --> 01:41:02,160
Speaker 6: not because of Jalen Hurts his inability to throw. It's

1992
01:41:02,160 --> 01:41:05,720
Speaker 6: because of the weather, which could obviously hamper Jalen Hurts his.

1993
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:06,519
Speaker 5: Ability to throw.

1994
01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:10,120
Speaker 6: I thought a big reason why I bet the Packers

1995
01:41:10,240 --> 01:41:14,120
Speaker 6: last week was because it was going to be Hurts'

1996
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:18,040
Speaker 6: first real game in a month. I mean that the

1997
01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:21,400
Speaker 6: Steelers Eagles game was his last finished game. He only

1998
01:41:21,439 --> 01:41:24,400
Speaker 6: played a handful of snaps the following week against the Commanders.

1999
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:28,280
Speaker 6: That game was on December fifteenth, and we were like

2000
01:41:28,479 --> 01:41:31,559
Speaker 6: middle of January. That's a long time for a quarterback

2001
01:41:31,640 --> 01:41:32,799
Speaker 6: to go without live reps.

2002
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:35,160
Speaker 5: And it showed.

2003
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:38,479
Speaker 6: And obviously, you know, four turnovers by the Packers and

2004
01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:41,280
Speaker 6: fumbling the opening kickoff, missing field goals, blah blah blah blah.

2005
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:44,120
Speaker 6: That was why the Packers were unable to keep that

2006
01:41:44,200 --> 01:41:46,800
Speaker 6: game close. But they still had opportunities to get within

2007
01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:49,880
Speaker 6: the number late. I think this is going to be

2008
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:52,360
Speaker 6: a different vibe today because I don't think the Rams

2009
01:41:52,520 --> 01:41:56,360
Speaker 6: defense or tomorrow, I don't think the Rams defense is

2010
01:41:56,520 --> 01:42:00,639
Speaker 6: going to put as much pressure, although they've been really

2011
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:02,080
Speaker 6: good generating pressure.

2012
01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:02,320
Speaker 5: I do.

2013
01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:04,599
Speaker 6: I think maybe the Rams front has been a little

2014
01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:07,599
Speaker 6: bit undervalued in that sense. They're very young front. They've

2015
01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:10,439
Speaker 6: got a lot of you know, rookies and sophomore players

2016
01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:13,040
Speaker 6: on that front. I think crishile defensive coordinator has done

2017
01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:16,559
Speaker 6: a good job, but based on where the numbers moving

2018
01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:20,720
Speaker 6: and kind of how things are proceeding with the weather forecast,

2019
01:42:21,160 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 6: I think how Jalen hurts and the rest of the

2020
01:42:23,320 --> 01:42:26,960
Speaker 6: team overcomes that is going to be a big factor

2021
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 6: in this game. He can't play any worse than he

2022
01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:30,920
Speaker 6: did last week like that, Like that was one of

2023
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:33,040
Speaker 6: the one of the worst performances I think he's had

2024
01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:35,960
Speaker 6: all year, and they still won the game by two scores.

2025
01:42:36,120 --> 01:42:37,960
Speaker 6: And I think that at least gives you some confidence

2026
01:42:38,240 --> 01:42:41,439
Speaker 6: that Philly can at least rely on their defense, rely

2027
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:43,519
Speaker 6: on their running game. And maybe that's the point that

2028
01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:47,400
Speaker 6: we're not talking enough about here, that Eagles defense with

2029
01:42:47,560 --> 01:42:51,120
Speaker 6: Vic Vangio has really kind of crystallized itself into one

2030
01:42:51,160 --> 01:42:52,960
Speaker 6: of the best units in the league over the last

2031
01:42:53,040 --> 01:42:56,240
Speaker 6: month or two, and I think that will dictate a

2032
01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:59,080
Speaker 6: lot more on how much pressure is on Jalen Hurts tomorrow.

2033
01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:06,080
Speaker 4: So the Marquee matchup Ravens and Bills, m that's the

2034
01:43:06,200 --> 01:43:09,639
Speaker 4: last game of the entire weekend. Bill's a one point

2035
01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:13,000
Speaker 4: home underdog. Now, let me ask you this, because we're

2036
01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:15,839
Speaker 4: just talking about the Rams trying to slow down Saquon Barkley.

2037
01:43:16,160 --> 01:43:19,360
Speaker 4: Do you think do you feel better about the Rams

2038
01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:23,599
Speaker 4: slowing down Saquon Barkley or the Bills slowing down Derrick

2039
01:43:23,680 --> 01:43:27,240
Speaker 4: Henry Because Derrick Henry went ballistic against the Bills in

2040
01:43:27,320 --> 01:43:29,720
Speaker 4: that regular season game as well. So Rich, who do

2041
01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:33,040
Speaker 4: you feel more confident in Bill slowing down King Henry

2042
01:43:33,400 --> 01:43:36,960
Speaker 4: or the Rams again slowing down, not stopping, but slowing

2043
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:37,719
Speaker 4: down Saquon?

2044
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:45,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, boy, only only from the standpoint Only from the

2045
01:43:45,520 --> 01:43:52,280
Speaker 1: standpoint of I trust his postseason experience more. And it

2046
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:55,719
Speaker 1: feels odd to say because he hasn't been coaching nearly

2047
01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:59,240
Speaker 1: as long as Sean McDermott. I'm talking lifespan, But I

2048
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:02,720
Speaker 1: trust Sean mc they and his game planning and his

2049
01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:09,920
Speaker 1: ability to find nuanced ways to tilt the field in

2050
01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:13,960
Speaker 1: favor for the Rams. Then I do Sean McDermott. I

2051
01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:16,559
Speaker 1: think Sean McDermott there are times where I'm watching Bill's

2052
01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:22,160
Speaker 1: games and I question sometimes the decision making, whether it

2053
01:44:22,280 --> 01:44:26,360
Speaker 1: be defensively or offensively from a game plan standpoint, Like

2054
01:44:26,439 --> 01:44:30,080
Speaker 1: I'll I'll look at their approach in certain games. I'll

2055
01:44:30,120 --> 01:44:32,519
Speaker 1: be like, I wonder why they're throwing the football so much,

2056
01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:35,040
Speaker 1: Or I might even be saying to myself in a

2057
01:44:35,120 --> 01:44:38,360
Speaker 1: game where you're trying to slow down Derrick Henry, like

2058
01:44:38,680 --> 01:44:40,680
Speaker 1: I wonder why there isn't more of an attempt to

2059
01:44:41,240 --> 01:44:44,640
Speaker 1: crowd the line of scrimmage. That was our conversation I

2060
01:44:44,680 --> 01:44:47,280
Speaker 1: think I had out loud during their last matchup together.

2061
01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:51,200
Speaker 1: It's it's it's a it's a it's an interesting thing

2062
01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:53,040
Speaker 1: that happens with Sean McDermott sometimes.

2063
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:55,519
Speaker 3: Actually, oddly enough, it happens.

2064
01:44:56,160 --> 01:44:58,800
Speaker 1: It happens a lot when I'm watching the Ravens as

2065
01:44:58,840 --> 01:45:01,720
Speaker 1: well as as as a matter of fact, when they

2066
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:04,600
Speaker 1: were in the AFC Championship game last year and they

2067
01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:06,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't run the ball, and they would have run the

2068
01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:08,639
Speaker 1: ball when they were when they were facing the Chiefs,

2069
01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:11,719
Speaker 1: I was like, why is Lamar Jackson throwing the football

2070
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:16,320
Speaker 1: so often? Now they're opening script wins smoothly, but from

2071
01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:19,280
Speaker 1: that point moving forward, it was like, this ain't working,

2072
01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:21,600
Speaker 1: so where's the adjustment? And then they came out of

2073
01:45:21,680 --> 01:45:25,040
Speaker 1: the half after intermission doing the exact same thing. It

2074
01:45:25,240 --> 01:45:29,240
Speaker 1: was bizarre, and John Harbaugh has a pension I think

2075
01:45:29,680 --> 01:45:31,960
Speaker 1: for getting lost in the sauce a little bit. I

2076
01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:34,400
Speaker 1: think Sean McDermott has a little bit of that same

2077
01:45:34,600 --> 01:45:38,040
Speaker 1: flu and you can see the symptoms. I trust Sean

2078
01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:41,560
Speaker 1: McVeigh a lot more so to answer your question, and

2079
01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:44,560
Speaker 1: I know that was a lengthy response. I think the

2080
01:45:44,680 --> 01:45:47,320
Speaker 1: Rams are going to do a better job slowing down

2081
01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:51,479
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley than the Bills are slowing down Derrick Henry.

2082
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:52,599
Speaker 5: You know it's funny.

2083
01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:54,559
Speaker 6: I got a text from Shamus right after his segment.

2084
01:45:54,600 --> 01:45:56,920
Speaker 6: He's like, one other point on the running quarterback question

2085
01:45:57,000 --> 01:45:59,360
Speaker 6: I forgot. I wonder if Lamar and Baltimore do that

2086
01:45:59,479 --> 01:46:01,439
Speaker 6: thing like they did last year against the Chiefs where

2087
01:46:01,439 --> 01:46:01,920
Speaker 6: he just stayed in.

2088
01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:02,719
Speaker 5: To talk about.

2089
01:46:04,360 --> 01:46:06,080
Speaker 4: I swear to god, I got that dexter from Shame

2090
01:46:06,120 --> 01:46:08,200
Speaker 4: it's like you're gonna say it was something about Kansas

2091
01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:09,839
Speaker 4: City this pick.

2092
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:12,920
Speaker 6: Or I did put a little bit on UMKC the ruse.

2093
01:46:14,320 --> 01:46:14,519
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2094
01:46:14,760 --> 01:46:19,080
Speaker 6: So a lot of people are doubting the Ravens because

2095
01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:21,680
Speaker 6: of oh, Lamar Jackson in the playoffs. And I did

2096
01:46:21,720 --> 01:46:23,640
Speaker 6: a show this week with some other pros and they

2097
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:25,920
Speaker 6: kind of said the same thing, and and they're like,

2098
01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:28,760
Speaker 6: it's like Lucy with the football and in Snoopy right

2099
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:30,200
Speaker 6: where she pulls the ball back right.

2100
01:46:30,240 --> 01:46:32,439
Speaker 5: You know, we're trying to get into that rape.

2101
01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:34,080
Speaker 6: This is the year for the Ravens, and then Lucy

2102
01:46:34,120 --> 01:46:35,640
Speaker 6: pulls the ball back right at the last minute with

2103
01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:39,680
Speaker 6: Charlie Brown. Well, Lucy has a friend this year, and

2104
01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:43,439
Speaker 6: Lucy's friend is Derrick Henry, whereas usually with Lamar Jackson

2105
01:46:43,520 --> 01:46:46,360
Speaker 6: it's just Lamar and you gotta contend with all of

2106
01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:48,639
Speaker 6: the things that he has to do, which are, let's

2107
01:46:48,680 --> 01:46:50,920
Speaker 6: be honest, they are MVP qualities. He's won it twice,

2108
01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:54,599
Speaker 6: maybe he'll win it a third time. But this year

2109
01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:59,720
Speaker 6: feels different, maybe not the final Boss Patrick Mahomes, but

2110
01:47:00,520 --> 01:47:02,920
Speaker 6: in the scenarios where and it looks like both of

2111
01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:05,280
Speaker 6: these games tomorrow are gonna have weather Obviously, they're both

2112
01:47:05,360 --> 01:47:07,240
Speaker 6: kind of in the same region of the country sort of,

2113
01:47:07,320 --> 01:47:09,599
Speaker 6: so it would be shocked if both games were impacted

2114
01:47:09,640 --> 01:47:12,400
Speaker 6: similarly by the weather. But if you were gonna ask

2115
01:47:12,479 --> 01:47:16,760
Speaker 6: me which of the team's Philly or Baltimore are more

2116
01:47:16,840 --> 01:47:21,280
Speaker 6: suited for this condition, I do think Baltimore because Lamar

2117
01:47:21,439 --> 01:47:24,559
Speaker 6: right now is a willing runner. Both teams great offensive lines,

2118
01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:28,320
Speaker 6: both teams I think are great running it, but I

2119
01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:32,679
Speaker 6: think Lamar is more of a willing runner, whereas Jalen

2120
01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:34,920
Speaker 6: Hurts last week looked very tentative.

2121
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:36,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of like Drew Aller.

2122
01:47:37,160 --> 01:47:40,080
Speaker 6: No, I'm not comparing the two the two games at all,

2123
01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:45,320
Speaker 6: but in terms of their their gung honus to put

2124
01:47:45,360 --> 01:47:47,519
Speaker 6: their head down and get the job done.

2125
01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:51,439
Speaker 5: There was a little tentativeness with Jalen Hurts his game.

2126
01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:54,360
Speaker 6: I don't get that sense with Lamar because I think

2127
01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:56,960
Speaker 6: he's got his buddy thunder Buddies for life in the

2128
01:47:57,000 --> 01:48:00,920
Speaker 6: backfield with Derrick Henry, who just kind of eliminates a

2129
01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:03,800
Speaker 6: lot of those issues. And I think if Jalen Hurts

2130
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:06,400
Speaker 6: is an aggressive runner, and I think he's like the

2131
01:48:06,520 --> 01:48:09,320
Speaker 6: leader other than Jake Daniels in third down scrambles, this year.

2132
01:48:10,160 --> 01:48:14,000
Speaker 6: He needs to reactivate his superpower, which is his legs

2133
01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:16,479
Speaker 6: and his decision making in that area or else. I

2134
01:48:16,560 --> 01:48:18,200
Speaker 6: do think Phillies in for a tight one tomorrow.

2135
01:48:18,680 --> 01:48:21,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a great point because listen, a couple of

2136
01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:25,800
Speaker 4: us had Jalen Hurts over rushing bets last week. Nothing

2137
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:27,400
Speaker 4: to do with it, man, And toward the end of

2138
01:48:27,439 --> 01:48:32,400
Speaker 4: that game, he's just running parallel. He's running sideways. It's like, bro,

2139
01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:34,920
Speaker 4: put your foot in the ground and go and he Do.

2140
01:48:34,880 --> 01:48:37,400
Speaker 3: You think the question maybe has a factor? Brian could have.

2141
01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:40,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I could have, because he was. He was absolutely

2142
01:48:40,160 --> 01:48:43,360
Speaker 4: tentative last week and he can't be. He can't be

2143
01:48:43,479 --> 01:48:44,360
Speaker 4: tentative in the playoffs.

2144
01:48:44,400 --> 01:48:44,840
Speaker 3: I'll tell you this.

2145
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:49,360
Speaker 4: If just in terms of tentativeness, right, and we're not

2146
01:48:49,479 --> 01:48:53,720
Speaker 4: talking about athletic ability or anything. You compare Lamar to

2147
01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:59,200
Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts as runners, Lamar is not tentative at all

2148
01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:04,400
Speaker 4: day and Jalen Hurts absolutely is right now. And yeah,

2149
01:49:04,439 --> 01:49:05,760
Speaker 4: it could be after the concussion.

2150
01:49:06,040 --> 01:49:06,439
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2151
01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:08,720
Speaker 4: Maybe it was one of those where the game was

2152
01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:12,000
Speaker 4: pretty well decided against the Packers. Yeah, didn't want to

2153
01:49:12,040 --> 01:49:12,639
Speaker 4: take a chance.

2154
01:49:12,720 --> 01:49:15,760
Speaker 3: That's fine. We're looking at it through the lens of dude,

2155
01:49:15,800 --> 01:49:17,320
Speaker 3: I need you over thirty five and a half.

2156
01:49:17,479 --> 01:49:21,519
Speaker 4: Come on, he's looking at the playoffs as a whole,

2157
01:49:21,720 --> 01:49:23,720
Speaker 4: you know, so that could have had something to do

2158
01:49:23,800 --> 01:49:26,479
Speaker 4: with it as well. But I do know this, Yeh,

2159
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:30,280
Speaker 4: Lamar and Josh Allen the top two MVP candidates on

2160
01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:31,639
Speaker 4: the same field tomorrow.

2161
01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:34,720
Speaker 6: That is gonna be Do you like that we don't

2162
01:49:34,720 --> 01:49:37,280
Speaker 6: have any MVP decision making to do anymore? Though, Like,

2163
01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:39,880
Speaker 6: shouldn't this game matter a little bit in that problem?

2164
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Speaker 3: Now? It's a regular season award, I know, But how.

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Speaker 6: Awesome is it that we could have had like the

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Speaker 6: winner gets the.

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Speaker 4: MVP because it would be so weighted with whatever happens

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Speaker 4: in the playoffs, those seventeen games wouldn't even matter, you know.

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Speaker 4: I keep it just with the regular season. But those

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Speaker 4: two guys man on the same field. That's gonna be

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Speaker 4: a ton of fun. And I'll tell you this.

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01:50:04,720 --> 01:50:06,559
Speaker 5: To this point is not to.

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01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:10,000
Speaker 4: Say that things can't change, because they can. But to

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Speaker 4: this point, Josh Allen has been worlds better in the

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01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:19,080
Speaker 4: playoffs than Lamar Jackson has world's better, and I wonder

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01:50:19,120 --> 01:50:21,640
Speaker 4: if that's going to hold true or change because it

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01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:23,920
Speaker 4: has to change for the Ravens to win this game.

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Speaker 1: Kind of a spin off of this conversation because we're

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Speaker 1: concentrating on AFC quarterbacks on that side of the playoff

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01:50:30,720 --> 01:50:33,960
Speaker 1: bracket for now, we haven't talked about CJ. Stroud or

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01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:38,120
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, But to focus on Patrick Mahomes a little bit,

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01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:41,320
Speaker 1: or excuse me on CJ. Stroud a little bit, because

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01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:44,880
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be the QB that nobody

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01:50:44,960 --> 01:50:48,559
Speaker 1: really talks about in this playoff because of the march

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01:50:48,680 --> 01:50:50,240
Speaker 1: toward inevitability.

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01:50:50,439 --> 01:50:54,280
Speaker 5: Now, if somehow it's the Texans who.

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01:50:54,200 --> 01:50:59,920
Speaker 1: Are facing the winner of Baltimore Baltimore Buffalo, then obviously

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01:51:00,160 --> 01:51:03,080
Speaker 1: his name will skyrocket to the top of the zeitgeist.

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01:51:03,160 --> 01:51:06,439
Speaker 1: But for now it's been an under underwhelming topic to discuss,

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Speaker 1: except from this standpoint.

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Speaker 3: When you look at CJ. Stroud and you look.

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Speaker 1: At Jalen Hurts, I feel like there are some real

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01:51:15,400 --> 01:51:20,280
Speaker 1: strong comparisons because I look at I look at Hurts,

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01:51:20,280 --> 01:51:21,599
Speaker 1: and I say, he's a winner.

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01:51:22,200 --> 01:51:24,519
Speaker 3: He knows how this works, he knows how to win.

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01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:26,800
Speaker 1: He came into the league and looked like he had

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01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:30,160
Speaker 1: a certain amount of readiness to him, a certain amount

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Speaker 1: of savvy that's not usually there for a young player,

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01:51:35,760 --> 01:51:38,040
Speaker 1: and and he just sounded and looked different than a

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01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:40,240
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of players, as you know, at

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Speaker 1: his age or at his stage in development. And I

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01:51:43,320 --> 01:51:45,960
Speaker 1: felt the same same way about c J. Stroud last year,

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01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:48,000
Speaker 1: and I feel the same way about him this year.

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01:51:48,120 --> 01:51:50,479
Speaker 1: But I do feel like with both of these players,

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01:51:51,360 --> 01:51:54,519
Speaker 1: there's a ceiling, Like, you know, I look at I

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01:51:54,600 --> 01:51:59,439
Speaker 1: look at Lamar Jackson as almost limitless, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen,

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01:51:59,520 --> 01:52:03,160
Speaker 1: It's like these guys could deliver in moments that you

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01:52:03,240 --> 01:52:04,360
Speaker 1: don't think possible.

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Speaker 3: But I look at Jalen Hurts, I look at C.

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01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:08,680
Speaker 1: Strown, and I just I have these moments where I

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01:52:08,760 --> 01:52:11,960
Speaker 1: see them on TV, I watch their games and I

2212
01:52:12,040 --> 01:52:15,640
Speaker 1: think to myself, I think, I think we're nipping at

2213
01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:19,280
Speaker 1: close to the best we're gonna see from these guys.

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01:52:19,760 --> 01:52:21,080
Speaker 3: You know, Brock Purdy, I.

2215
01:52:21,160 --> 01:52:24,280
Speaker 1: Get that same vibe. Jared Goff, I get that same vibe,

2216
01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:27,479
Speaker 1: Like how much better does it really get? They can't

2217
01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:30,880
Speaker 1: turn on god mode the way some of these elite

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01:52:31,000 --> 01:52:34,519
Speaker 1: level quarterbacks can. So is it gonna be enough for

2219
01:52:34,640 --> 01:52:36,080
Speaker 1: the Texans with CJ.

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01:52:36,240 --> 01:52:38,040
Speaker 3: Stroud? Is it ever gonna be enough?

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01:52:38,400 --> 01:52:40,920
Speaker 1: For the Eagles with Jalen Hurts to win a Super

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01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:43,680
Speaker 1: Bowl or is it gonna look like Donovan McNabb for

2223
01:52:43,800 --> 01:52:45,200
Speaker 1: the Eagles all over again?

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01:52:45,960 --> 01:52:48,160
Speaker 5: That's you know, And what is CJ. Stroud?

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01:52:48,760 --> 01:52:51,120
Speaker 1: Is it ever really gonna work for the Texans? They

2226
01:52:51,200 --> 01:52:54,640
Speaker 1: may win the South every year, but but I mean,

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01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:58,320
Speaker 1: is that enough? That's I just I think we're we

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01:52:58,479 --> 01:53:00,920
Speaker 1: may bump up against that ceiling. I'm talking about sooner

2229
01:53:01,040 --> 01:53:01,679
Speaker 1: rather than later.

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Speaker 5: I think that and that point makes me appreciate Mahomes more.

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01:53:05,880 --> 01:53:10,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, because I just think and we're very dan Orlowski

2232
01:53:10,280 --> 01:53:12,600
Speaker 6: did this great segment where he did a VR of

2233
01:53:12,680 --> 01:53:14,439
Speaker 6: what the quarterback has to go through at the line

2234
01:53:14,439 --> 01:53:17,679
Speaker 6: of scrimmage, where like, you know, he's literally you're staring

2235
01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:19,639
Speaker 6: at the line of scrimmage and you're kind of going

2236
01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:21,720
Speaker 6: through all of the progressions, all of the reads, all

2237
01:53:21,760 --> 01:53:24,280
Speaker 6: of the checks. This safety walks up, this corner moves back.

2238
01:53:24,520 --> 01:53:28,439
Speaker 6: Everything that has to be done pre flop before the snap,

2239
01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:31,200
Speaker 6: mentally for a quarterback. And then oh, by the way,

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Speaker 6: get the snap, make the right fakes, the right throw,

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01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:39,000
Speaker 6: and then execute the play physically. It is the hardest

2242
01:53:39,040 --> 01:53:41,320
Speaker 6: sport too. There's the hardest position to play in the

2243
01:53:41,360 --> 01:53:45,600
Speaker 6: sport period. The mental acuity you need and then to

2244
01:53:46,040 --> 01:53:50,080
Speaker 6: control yourself in that moment and to still execute physically

2245
01:53:50,280 --> 01:53:51,439
Speaker 6: is so difficult.

2246
01:53:52,120 --> 01:53:54,240
Speaker 5: And we put a lot of pressure on these guys.

2247
01:53:54,320 --> 01:53:57,280
Speaker 6: We trash them, we say disgustinks, discuss trashes, washed, blah

2248
01:53:57,320 --> 01:54:00,479
Speaker 6: blah blah blah. I think we need to step back

2249
01:54:00,520 --> 01:54:04,400
Speaker 6: from that and just appreciate how good a guy like

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Speaker 6: Mahomes is at handling all of that pressure and still

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01:54:08,680 --> 01:54:11,840
Speaker 6: performing at a high level and still when all the

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01:54:11,960 --> 01:54:14,640
Speaker 6: planning you do pre flop, everything is set, if this

2253
01:54:14,800 --> 01:54:16,360
Speaker 6: is covered two, I'm gonna go here, cover one here,

2254
01:54:16,760 --> 01:54:18,439
Speaker 6: and then it all breaks down and you got to

2255
01:54:18,479 --> 01:54:20,679
Speaker 6: make a play. And he still makes it. He still

2256
01:54:20,720 --> 01:54:22,439
Speaker 6: gets out of the pocket and makes that run, makes

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01:54:22,479 --> 01:54:27,479
Speaker 6: that throw. That level of quarterbacking is so rare. I

2258
01:54:27,560 --> 01:54:29,920
Speaker 6: think it's unfair for us to put that evil on

2259
01:54:30,040 --> 01:54:31,040
Speaker 6: a guy like Cjstruit.

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Speaker 5: It's so hard to do.

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01:54:32,320 --> 01:54:33,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's so far.

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01:54:33,400 --> 01:54:35,040
Speaker 6: I can count on one hand the amount of people

2263
01:54:35,120 --> 01:54:38,080
Speaker 6: that can execute that, and you just have to appreciate

2264
01:54:38,160 --> 01:54:38,640
Speaker 6: it because it.

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01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:39,440
Speaker 3: Really is rare.

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01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:43,200
Speaker 4: Well, I'll be real fast with this because that's where

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01:54:43,240 --> 01:54:46,000
Speaker 4: it has to improve. For Lamar in the playoffs because

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01:54:46,160 --> 01:54:48,680
Speaker 4: we've seen how special he is. In the regular season,

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01:54:49,160 --> 01:54:51,920
Speaker 4: he might be a three time MVP. At worst, he's

2270
01:54:51,960 --> 01:54:55,600
Speaker 4: a two time MVP with a second place finish two

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01:54:55,640 --> 01:54:56,000
Speaker 4: and a half.

2272
01:54:56,440 --> 01:54:58,120
Speaker 3: That's the worst case scenario.

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01:54:58,280 --> 01:55:02,880
Speaker 4: So we've seen him at an outstanding electric level, and

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01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:06,040
Speaker 4: yet we've also seen in the playoffs a passer rating

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01:55:06,120 --> 01:55:09,000
Speaker 4: that's eighty one point two, which, by the way, just

2276
01:55:09,120 --> 01:55:12,840
Speaker 4: for context, in the regular season this past year, that

2277
01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:18,200
Speaker 4: would slot between will Levis and Gardner Minshew. That's what

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01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:22,240
Speaker 4: Lamar's passer rating has been in seven playoff games. That's

2279
01:55:22,280 --> 01:55:24,760
Speaker 4: not good enough when we've seen him play at a

2280
01:55:24,920 --> 01:55:28,000
Speaker 4: much much higher level. So the question is he's fully

2281
01:55:28,080 --> 01:55:32,280
Speaker 4: capable of playing at a higher level. Will he against

2282
01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:35,480
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Speaker 4: got you covered, all right, we got some picks to make.

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Speaker 5: Let's do it.

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01:57:02,440 --> 01:57:06,800
Speaker 3: Rapid fire. All right, Jared, we start with you. What

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01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:09,320
Speaker 3: do you like? All right, let's start with tonight.

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01:57:09,480 --> 01:57:12,680
Speaker 5: I'm going with the Commanders team total over twenty.

2313
01:57:12,400 --> 01:57:14,400
Speaker 6: Three and a half. We have to upgrade Jane Daniels.

2314
01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:16,200
Speaker 6: He is a rookie that is not afraid of the

2315
01:57:16,240 --> 01:57:17,040
Speaker 6: playoff moment.

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01:57:17,120 --> 01:57:17,280
Speaker 3: Now.

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01:57:17,400 --> 01:57:19,760
Speaker 6: I don't think Washington's defense is gonna be up to

2318
01:57:19,840 --> 01:57:22,600
Speaker 6: the task against the Lions offense tonight, but this offense

2319
01:57:22,640 --> 01:57:25,640
Speaker 6: for the Commanders is relentless. Five of daniels wins this

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01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:28,040
Speaker 6: year have been the result of a game winning drive

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01:57:28,080 --> 01:57:30,560
Speaker 6: in the fourth quarter or overtime, three in his last

2322
01:57:30,600 --> 01:57:33,520
Speaker 6: three games. Impressive stuff, although over twenty three and a

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01:57:33,560 --> 01:57:37,120
Speaker 6: half team total for Washington. Ravens money line at the Bills,

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01:57:37,200 --> 01:57:39,080
Speaker 6: forget about the ghost of postseason pass.

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01:57:39,160 --> 01:57:41,879
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson's got a new monster in the backfield.

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01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:42,920
Speaker 5: His name is Derek Henry.

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01:57:42,920 --> 01:57:46,400
Speaker 6: He is the perfect way to exercise the playoff demons.

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01:57:46,480 --> 01:57:49,160
Speaker 6: Quote the Ravens money line never more. I think it's

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01:57:49,160 --> 01:57:51,280
Speaker 6: gonna be Chiefs and Ravens in the AC title game

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01:57:51,360 --> 01:57:53,320
Speaker 6: next week. And let's go to Monday night. Brian, You're

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01:57:53,320 --> 01:57:55,160
Speaker 6: gonna love this pick. Notre Dame plus eight and a half.

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01:57:55,400 --> 01:57:59,040
Speaker 6: The fighting Irish have what is required to take Ohio

2333
01:57:59,120 --> 01:58:01,360
Speaker 6: State to the deep end the pool and test that

2334
01:58:01,560 --> 01:58:05,600
Speaker 6: lung capacity. Force the Buckeyes to execute Riley Leonard hopefully healthy,

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01:58:05,640 --> 01:58:09,240
Speaker 6: Jeremiah Love making plays Irish cover maybe even spring.

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01:58:09,040 --> 01:58:10,120
Speaker 3: The upstt Wow.

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Speaker 1: I am staying in the NFL, and we're talking about today, tonight,

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01:58:14,880 --> 01:58:18,320
Speaker 1: and tomorrow. Let's start with today, Kansas City Chiefs. They're

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01:58:18,360 --> 01:58:21,440
Speaker 1: favored by eight and a half. That's Patrick Mahomes taking

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01:58:21,520 --> 01:58:25,280
Speaker 1: on a Texans team that has struggled all season long.

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01:58:25,840 --> 01:58:28,640
Speaker 1: I don't trust the Texans at all. I do trust

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01:58:28,720 --> 01:58:32,320
Speaker 1: the Chiefs in the postseason. Moving on to tonight, I

2343
01:58:32,640 --> 01:58:37,880
Speaker 1: love how many points we're getting on our Washington Commanders,

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01:58:38,240 --> 01:58:41,600
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about the community of Commanders fans who

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01:58:41,720 --> 01:58:45,320
Speaker 1: have gathered under this banner that Jaden Daniels is difficult

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01:58:45,400 --> 01:58:45,800
Speaker 1: to stop.

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01:58:46,160 --> 01:58:48,760
Speaker 3: I'll take the points, give me the nine and a half.

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01:58:49,240 --> 01:58:50,200
Speaker 3: That's a lot of fun.

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01:58:50,440 --> 01:58:53,560
Speaker 1: Tomorrow, Rams, I would take them on the money line,

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01:58:53,800 --> 01:58:55,000
Speaker 1: So give me the points.

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01:58:55,280 --> 01:58:59,400
Speaker 3: I'll take them plus six. Let's go Rams, all right,

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01:58:59,400 --> 01:59:03,280
Speaker 3: I'll go fans, because again I have no choice. I'll

2353
01:59:03,320 --> 01:59:04,680
Speaker 3: go with CJ. Stroud.

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01:59:05,000 --> 01:59:06,800
Speaker 4: He's got to throw it a bunch. Give me over

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01:59:06,880 --> 01:59:09,880
Speaker 4: thirty four and a half passing attempts. I'll take Jaden

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01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:13,200
Speaker 4: Daniels the Lions struggle against mobile quarterbacks. Give me Jaden

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01:59:13,280 --> 01:59:16,040
Speaker 4: Daniels over fifty five and a half rushing yards, and

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01:59:16,120 --> 01:59:19,480
Speaker 4: give me Jamir Gibbs fun one first attempt over three

2359
01:59:19,520 --> 01:59:22,240
Speaker 4: and a half rushing yards. Taking Notre Dame money line

2360
01:59:22,360 --> 01:59:22,960
Speaker 4: is too easy.