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Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. All right, welcome in.

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Speaker 2: Let's do this. It is The Herd. No Colin Cowherd.

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Speaker 2: I am Danny Parkins from FS one's First Things First,

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Speaker 2: soon to be expanded. First Things First, it's a thrill

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Speaker 2: to be out here in Los Angeles and for the

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Speaker 2: legend that is Colin Cowherd. We've got a great show

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Speaker 2: for you today on this Monday, my guy Cole Kamt

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Speaker 2: from The Bears will join us in about thirty minutes

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Speaker 2: to explain why everyone is completely correct. It's a panic

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Speaker 2: about every interception around Caleb Williams. Do I think Cole

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Speaker 2: might have a different take on that. Bruce Feldman joins

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Speaker 2: the show. My new teammate at First Things First, Chris Broussard.

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Speaker 2: Later on the Bear tons of football because we made it.

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Speaker 2: There's a football game this week kind of in the

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame game. But we've got a lot of

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Speaker 2: NFL to get to over the course of today's show.

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Speaker 2: But somehow someway. Even though it is game week in

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Speaker 2: the NFL, Lebron James still finds himself in the center

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Speaker 2: of the news because I did not expect to land

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Speaker 2: in Los Angeles to an Instagram post from a guy

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Speaker 2: I had never heard of, who was Nikola Jokic's agent

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Speaker 2: on a yacht in France with Lebron James and Maverick Carter.

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Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, okay, Lebron world traveler. Who who

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Speaker 2: among us hasn't been on a yacht in the south

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Speaker 2: of France with the greatest offensive player in twenty years

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Speaker 2: as agent?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's a thing that could happen to anybody,

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, all right, that's nice. They bumped into

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Speaker 2: each other while vacationing having some fine wine, and then

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Speaker 2: you read the caption on Nikola Jokich's agent's Instagram post.

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Speaker 2: The summer of twenty twenty five is the perfect time

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Speaker 2: to make big plans for the fall of twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Summer of twenty twenty five, that's now perfect time to

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Speaker 2: make big plans for the fall of twenty twenty six. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's gonna have some reverberations around the NBA because everybody

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Speaker 2: seems to be convinced because the Lakers invited Luca to

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Speaker 2: dinner and didn't invite him because they are not willing

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Speaker 2: to trade the last first round pick that they control

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Speaker 2: to go out and make a bigger move for this

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Speaker 2: offseason to try to be all in quote unquote to

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Speaker 2: win now with Lebron, that Lebron is somehow unhappy with

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Speaker 2: the Lakers, and Lebron, by the way, has done some

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Speaker 2: things to fan fuel to that flames. Because I like

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Speaker 2: to say about Lebron, we're similar in age. We're elder millennials.

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Speaker 2: We grew up with the Internet. We understand what it's like.

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm gonna unfollow my employer, I'm gonna tweak this thing,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna patrol a little bit. Lebron in his camp

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Speaker 2: is very good at controlling the message and nothing that

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Speaker 2: they do is without intent, and he drives the twenty

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Speaker 2: four to seven sports talk industrial complex more than any

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Speaker 2: modern athlete, arguably more than any athlete ever. So he's vacationing,

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Speaker 2: He's on a yacht, this guy puts out a post

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Speaker 2: and now it becomes a story. But I don't think

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Speaker 2: Lebron is leaving LA, and it is for no better

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Speaker 2: reason than say it out loud. Lebron James Denver nugget.

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Speaker 2: I just don't believe it. I have a very hard

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Speaker 2: time believing. The guy who is now on his third franchise,

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Speaker 2: who has delivered LA a championship, who just got Luka

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Speaker 2: Danciic as a teammate, who they drafted his son, He's

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Speaker 2: building his forever home out here, he has all of

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Speaker 2: his business ventures out here. I have a hard time

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Speaker 2: believe believing. On that yacht they were talking about Lebron

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Speaker 2: James going to Denver, And for the life of me,

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Speaker 2: I have struggled with understanding why we talk about Jokic

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Speaker 2: about Giannis and his future in Milwaukee. Again, this was

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Speaker 2: Joker's agent talking about big plans for next summer. Well,

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Speaker 2: Yokic is under contract for this year, and he's under

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Speaker 2: contract for next year, but then he's got a player

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Speaker 2: some unknown reason floated the idea of trading Joker.

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Speaker 3: You remember, for us as an organization, going into that

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Speaker 3: I think that there are rules around it that we

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Speaker 3: needed to be very careful of with our injury history.

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Speaker 3: The wrong person gets injured, and very quickly you're into

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Speaker 3: scenario where that I never want to have to contemplate

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Speaker 3: and met to tradeing number fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Odd choice. I think we could all agree to, unprompted

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Speaker 2: bring up trading Nikola Jokich. But Yanis can't do anything

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Speaker 2: without one hundred headlines and hot take people being like

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Speaker 2: Yanis has to leave Milwaukee. When Jannis was an international

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Speaker 2: pick to a small market team who's won an MVP

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Speaker 2: There are way more similarities to Jannis and Jokic, but

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Speaker 2: no one ever talks about Yokic being unhappy in Denver.

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Speaker 2: What if Jokic's agent is making big plans for next year,

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Speaker 2: when for all intents and purposes, it is an expiring

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Speaker 2: option for Jokic to leave Denver to go to Los

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Speaker 2: Angeles to play with his longtime friend Luka Doncic, that

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Speaker 2: feels to me way more likely what the big plans

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Speaker 2: could be than Lebron James being a Denver nugget for

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Speaker 2: one year. I have no idea how many more years

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Speaker 2: Lebron James is playing. We say father Time is undefeated.

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Speaker 2: Lebron James is trying to shatter expectations on that cliche,

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Speaker 2: but to say it out loud. Test tells me it

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Speaker 2: is more likely that they're just trolling. Frankly, but that

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Speaker 2: if I had to say Jokic in LA and they

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Speaker 2: figure out a way to make that work, or Lebron

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Speaker 2: just straight signed in Denver for a year, which granted

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Speaker 2: is simpler given Lebron is not under contract beyond this

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Speaker 2: year as we all know. I'll still take the more

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Speaker 2: difficult path and believe that it's much more likely that

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Speaker 2: Lebron is figuring out a way to team up with Jokic,

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Speaker 2: pair him with Luca, make one more run at a

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Speaker 2: after him and having that be a part of his Lakers' legacy.

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Speaker 2: I won you the title in the bubble, maybe I

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Speaker 2: I set you up to have the best duo in

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Speaker 2: the NBA going forward with Luca and the Joker. So

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Speaker 2: we don't know where Jokic or Lebron's going. I got

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Speaker 2: a pretty good idea how this next story is going

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Speaker 2: to end, but it still doesn't change any of the drama.

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Speaker 2: Micah Parsons is going to stay in Dallas. But it's

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Speaker 2: lovely to see that there's thirty one teams in the

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Speaker 2: to Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys, because love them

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Speaker 2: and so over the weekend, Micah Parsons, who doesn't have

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Speaker 2: there at training camp just not really participating. Jerry Jones

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Speaker 2: and he was greeted with chance of pay Micah, pay Micah,

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Speaker 2: and then he talked to the media afterwards and he

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Speaker 2: Prescott last year said, you know, I just kind of

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Speaker 2: But that was last year. Ceedee Lamb. Just last week,

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Speaker 2: when talking about Micah Parsons and these contract negotiations that

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Speaker 4: Jones obviously playing his media game with Jerry is not

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Speaker 4: the best, is not fun, is not recommended. But as

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Speaker 2: And he will get paid soon. You all know how

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Speaker 2: this ends. This is just noise. Last year, Nick Bosa

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Speaker 2: the highest paid non quarterback in football and he wants

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm old enough to remember three weeks ago

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Speaker 2: Micah Parsons will be a Dallas Cowboy. He will get

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Speaker 2: another contract. He will top TJ. Watts forty one million

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Speaker 2: probably try to get to forty four forty five million

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Speaker 2: pass rushers. And I'm sure that's the sticking point in

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Speaker 2: called a media literacy test here. I think we would

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Speaker 2: all be served to actually pay attention to Jerry Jones.

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Speaker 2: And I know it's a bold strategy, and Ceedee Lamb

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Speaker 2: and Dak Prescott have said they're trying to do different things,

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Speaker 2: but I don't play quarterback for the Cowboys. Jerry Jones

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Speaker 2: saw how this country was enamored with the Last Dance,

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Speaker 2: And he struck a deal with Netflix to produce a

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Speaker 2: and we'll see what America's appetite is for a long

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Speaker 2: form documentary on America's team. It will not be as

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Speaker 2: popular as the Last Dance because we're not in the

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Speaker 2: middle of a pandemic, but they were popular in the nineties.

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Speaker 2: The Bulls were popular in the nineties. I'm sure it

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Speaker 2: will do quite well. But when the trailer came out,

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Speaker 2: there was a little snippet from Jerry Jones that I

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Speaker 2: actually was like, Ah, there it is, thank you. This

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Speaker 2: is a soap opera three hundred and sixty five days

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Speaker 2: a year. That is his business model. That is why

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Speaker 2: they're not in the biggest market, but they're the most

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Speaker 2: valuable franchise. They don't have the most wins or the

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Speaker 2: most Super Bowls, but they're the most valuable, most talked

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Speaker 2: about franchise. He believes, and frankly has been proven right

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Speaker 2: that the soap opera is what sells. He's the owner,

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Speaker 2: It was a movie. It was fine. I'll ever watch

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Speaker 2: can have impact on your fantasy drafts. I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: don't pay attention to it, but judging stats or results

430
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Speaker 2: from practices is insane. Almost none of it matters. But

431
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Speaker 2: if you want a topic from training camp that does matter,

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Speaker 2: I would give you Josh Simmons being with the ones

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Speaker 2: for the Kansas City Chiefs. Already, Josh Simmons was supposed

434
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Speaker 2: to be a top fifteen pick out of Ohio State

435
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 2: and he broke his pateeller tendon and he fell to

436
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Speaker 2: the Chiefs with a thirty first pick in the draft.

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Speaker 2: And anyone who remembers the chief season last year, it

438
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 2: was a revolving door. Right four different guys played left

439
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 2: tackle for the Chiefs so much so that they had

440
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Speaker 2: to shift Joe Dooney they're all pro guard from left

441
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Speaker 2: guard to left tackle, and now he's on the Bears.

442
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 2: So it became a situation where then the Eagles off

443
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 2: of course, dominated the Chiefs offensive line among other things

444
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 2: that they dominated in that Super Bowl, and it brought

445
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 2: flashbacks to when the Chiefs lost to Tampa in the

446
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 2: Super Bowl when mahomes offensive line fell apart last year.

447
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: This was the worst offensive line of the Mahomes era.

448
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 2: He was hit one hundred and eighteen times. He was

449
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 2: sacked forty one times, four different left tackles. They lose

450
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 2: their left guard to the Bears. The guy they drafted

451
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 2: Kingsley su or Sue Matiaala excuse me, in the second

452
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 2: round two years ago. Now he's going to be their

453
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Speaker 2: left guard. But if Josh Simmons is what Josh Simmons

454
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Speaker 2: is supposed to be, a top fifteen pick on a

455
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Speaker 2: cheap contract who immediately comes in and plays left tackle, well, now,

456
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you've got an elite prospect on

457
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Speaker 2: a cheap contract at left tackle. Kingsley goes from left

458
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Speaker 2: tackle to left guard second year in the league. Creed

459
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Speaker 2: Humphrey center, one of the best centers in the NFL

460
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Speaker 2: under a long term contract. Tray Smith one of the

461
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Speaker 2: best right guards in the NFL under a long term contract.

462
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 2: And while Juwan Taylor frustrates people because he gets a

463
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 2: few too many penalties and he does that like a

464
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Speaker 2: little quick jump off where it feels like he's getting

465
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Speaker 2: a jump off the line of scrimmage that a bunch

466
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Speaker 2: of guys do, Jewan Taylor is a fine right tackle.

467
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Speaker 2: And then they signed more the backup from the Niners,

468
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Speaker 2: to a healthy contract. All of a sudden, the Chiefs

469
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 2: offensive line, if Simmons is legit goes from huge liability,

470
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Speaker 2: huge weakness to massive strength. And last season the Chiefs

471
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Speaker 2: offense was just not impressive. It was not impressive in

472
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Speaker 2: terms of points scored, obviously, but the big one that

473
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 2: anyone could see if you watched the game was like

474
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Speaker 2: where did the big plays go? And it wasn't just

475
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Speaker 2: like Tyreek Hill he's been gone for a few years,

476
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Speaker 2: Like where And it's not did Mahomes forget how to

477
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 2: throw the deep ball? No? Is it all just that

478
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 2: the opposing defensive coordinators are doing the cover two shell

479
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: and daring you to beat him. Underneath. Yeah, that's some

480
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: of it. They were last in the NFL in touchdowns

481
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Speaker 2: that went twenty plus yards. Rashi Rice and Hollywood Brown

482
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 2: and Xavier Worthy played a grand total of zero snaps

483
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 2: together last year. Hollywood Brown is healthy. We'll see what

484
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 2: discipline comes for Rashi Rice off the field. Xavier Worthy

485
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: had the great Super Bowl. But those three guys are

486
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 2: going to play together this year, and the offensive line

487
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: should be better, so that means the offense should be better.

488
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 2: And those are the types of training camp stories to

489
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Speaker 2: me that matters. New guy in new place, rookie making

490
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: and adjustment, healthy or not healthy. When a player throws

491
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 2: an interception, well, did the coach before the rep tell him,

492
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 2: you've got to go to this route because we've got

493
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 2: to work on the timing. There was he playing against

494
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 2: the ones or the twos? What was going on on

495
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 2: the offensive line, We just don't we don't know. We

496
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 2: don't know so many of the details of what they

497
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 2: were trying to accomplish in a given play or a

498
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 2: given drill that reporting on successes or failures or stats

499
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Speaker 2: or any of that just feels like a fool's errand.

500
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Speaker 2: But the Kansas City Chiefs got a franchise caliber left

501
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 2: tackle with a thirty first pick in the draft who

502
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 2: we didn't know if he was going to be healthy

503
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: for week one, and he was healthy for day one

504
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: of training camp. So the guy they signed from the

505
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: Niners is now rotating on the right side of the

506
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 2: offensive line instead of the left side of the offensive line. Yeah,

507
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 2: that's a story. Chiefs offense catching up with the Chiefs defense,

508
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 2: which has carried them the last couple of years. That's

509
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 2: a story because if Spagnolo gets the defense to be

510
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 2: with the defense has been, the offense gets back to

511
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 2: being what the offense was. That's why the Chiefs aren't

512
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 2: afraid of the Broncos or the Chargers or the improved

513
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 2: Raiders or anyone else because last year, I mean two

514
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 2: years ago, they won the Super Bowl, leading the league

515
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 2: in drops. Last year they had the least explosive offense

516
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: in the NFL, had four different left tackles, and they

517
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 2: won fifteen games and made it to the Super Bowl.

518
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Speaker 2: So you want a training camp story that matters, Josh

519
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: Simmons getting reps. Already, forget reps. He's your first string

520
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 2: left tackle for the Kansas City Chiefs. That is a

521
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 2: training camp story that matters. We had some tech issues

522
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 2: with Cole Kamett. We'll try to figure that out. But

523
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: on the other side, there's a big lesson that Caleb

524
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 2: Williams learned from last season and it's worth getting into.

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Speaker 2: in for Colin on the Herd. Okay, you're gonna hear

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Speaker 2: some coping. I'm gonna just be honest with you, Bears

536
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 2: guy from Chicago, and everyone knows the numbers at this point.

537
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 2: Never had a four thousand yard passer. Only franchise in

538
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Speaker 2: the NFL to never have a four thousand yard passer.

539
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: I have never had a thirty touchdown passer only franchise

540
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: in the NFL to never have a thirty touchdown passer.

541
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Speaker 2: It is an organization that is defined by their incompetence

542
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: at quarterback. They would say, no, we're the Monsters in

543
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 2: the Midway and Gail Sayers and Alter Payton and the

544
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 2: eighty five Bears, and that is all true, but it

545
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: has permeated so much of Bear's lore that it almost

546
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: became folklore. It's like, well, you can't throw the ball

547
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: in Chicago, it's too windy, except for Buffalo and Green

548
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 2: Bay and plenty of other places that have had worse

549
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,959
Speaker 2: weather that also have quarterbacks who could throw the ball.

550
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Speaker 2: It has become this prophecy that the Bears will just

551
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: never have a good quarterback. And I try to think

552
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Speaker 2: of myself as a rational guy, and so I'm a

553
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Speaker 2: Cubs fan. I never believed in curses this like win

554
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 2: one before I die think. I was like, yeah, they're

555
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 2: eventually gonna win one. And in twenty sixteen, they finally

556
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,479
Speaker 2: did and it was a great moment, and I hope

557
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 2: they do it again this year. I think they got

558
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 2: a real shop. By the way, if Caleb Williams and

559
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson doesn't work in Chicago. I might have to

560
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: start believing in curses, because this is everything that should work.

561
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 2: Wildly talented quarterback prospect. Had a bad offensive line, upgraded,

562
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 2: it had a bad coach and play caller upgraded. It

563
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 2: developing with a receiver in Rome of Doonsday. But you

564
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 2: have a veteran who's really good in Dj Moore. He

565
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 2: got one tight end in Cole Comet. Let's draft another

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Speaker 2: one who compliments his skill set in Colston Lovelin. They're blocking,

567
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 2: they're pass catching. What doesn't he have? And oh yeah,

568
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: by the way, very talented, good if not great defense.

569
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Speaker 2: But he's been struggling and he struggled last year though

570
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: that was a little overblown and we'll get to in

571
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 2: a minute. But he's been struggling the first few days

572
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 2: of camp because he threw an interception and because reporters

573
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 2: saw him get taken off the field for Tyson Bagent

574
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 2: in the second string. Ben Johnson is holding these guys

575
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: to a very very high standard that I can tell you,

576
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 2: frankly was not there last year. Here's how Ben Johnson

577
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 2: addressed the early struggles for Kallab Williams in the offense.

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Speaker 8: I know some people enjoyed me throwing the first team

579
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Speaker 8: out of practice.

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00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 7: Not the case.

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Speaker 2: We got to end up.

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Speaker 8: Executing getting in and out of the huddle a certain way,

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Speaker 8: and it wasn't that way. And we're learning, we're growing,

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Speaker 8: you know, there were some things from the springtime expected

585
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 8: to carry over that that was probably one we just

586
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 8: don't have any tolerance for anymore.

587
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: We we got too far to go. So Caleb Williams

588
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,959
Speaker 2: is not a finished product. And Caleb Williams is hurt

589
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: now reputationally by guys in his draft class already passing

590
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 2: him by right. Jade and Daniel's best rookie season any

591
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 2: of us have ever seen NFC championship game. Bow Knicks

592
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: ends up in the playoffs. First four weeks of last

593
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 2: year looked like he didn't belong in the NFL. By

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00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 2: the end of the season, I like bo Nicks had

595
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 2: Bonis had twenty nine touchdown passes, the second most ever

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00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 2: for a rookie. Why are we talking more about bow

597
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 2: Knicks's rookie season? Drake may had no talent around him,

598
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 2: but looks good, looks competent, made some big time plays,

599
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: and the narrative was Caleb Williams was bad. The truth

600
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: was Caleb Williams at times was bad, and those of

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00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 2: us hand up who said Caleb Williams was walking into

602
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: the best situation any number one overall pick had ever

603
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: walked into. We drastically underestimated one thing, and it was coaching.

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Speaker 2: And I'm mad at myself for doing it because I

605
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 2: was wrong, because I was the guy who said, when

606
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 2: they got the rights to the number one pick, they

607
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 2: needed to fire Matt Eberflus, because it was insane to

608
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: believe that the guy most qualified to develop Caleb Williams

609
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 2: was the former Colts defensive coordinator. I was doing radio

610
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: in Chicago at the time, and I was saying, you

611
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 2: got a fire Eberfus, you gotta fire Eberflus, and they didn't,

612
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: and I was like, well, it'll probably still work because

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00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: I liked the team around him, and it didn't. Jaden

614
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: Daniels had Dan Quinn knew how to be a professional.

615
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: Bo Nix had Sean Payton, one of the great offensive

616
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 2: minds and play callers, but also how to be a professional.

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00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 2: Matt Iberflus, he did not do a good job of

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Speaker 2: helping Caleb Williams become a professional, and I think Caleb

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Speaker 2: Williams thought that he could get by on just his

620
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: talent and the talent around him and Matt Eberflus let

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Speaker 2: some things slide last year and it's come out and

622
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 2: I've heard I know guys on the team that they

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Speaker 2: did not like how he reacted to that loss in

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00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 2: the wild card game against Washington. They did not like

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00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: how he did not take enough accountability for the lack

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00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 2: of time management issues in the game against Detroit on Thanksgiving,

627
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 2: and he didn't hold himself to enough account he didn't

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00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 2: hold the players to enough account Things started to slide

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Speaker 2: and it got sloppy. But it's like people talk about

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams being on the verge of being a bust.

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Speaker 2: I promise you you didn't watch if you think that

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00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 2: that's the case. He was playing with practice squad guys

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00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,959
Speaker 2: on his offensive line, his play caller got fired nine

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00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: games into his rookie year. And then a franchise that

635
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 2: has never fired its head coach in season saw it

636
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 2: be so dysfunctional that they broke with historic precedent and

637
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: fired a head coach in season. That's how bad it was.

638
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 2: He took sixty eight sacks and to be very clear

639
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 2: plenty of those were on Caleb trying to play hero ball, backpedaling,

640
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 2: trying to do the college stuff in the pros again,

641
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 2: learning how to be a pro. It was not all

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00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 2: on the offensive line, it was not all on the

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Speaker 2: play callers. But Caleb Williams for the first time, really

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Speaker 2: had some failure. Yeah. I know the last year at

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Speaker 2: USC did not go exactly how he won, but he

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Speaker 2: was still celebrated. Crowns the number one pick. All of that,

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Speaker 2: he had some failure, and he saw guys be drafted

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Speaker 2: lower than him pass them by. And now Ben Johnson,

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Speaker 2: he's coming in with expectations. He is pulling him off

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Speaker 2: the field, he is demanding more. He is calling him

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Speaker 2: out in the team meeting, he is quizzing him in

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Speaker 2: front of the room. He's holding him to a very

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Speaker 2: high standard. And I just have a very hard time

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Speaker 2: believing that a guy with his talent, who still had

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Speaker 2: better than a three to one touchdown the interception ratio

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Speaker 2: while taking sixty eight sacks, the play caller who was

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Speaker 2: fired nine games in, he ain't a bust. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if he'll become Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes and

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Speaker 2: win MVPs. I still think that ceiling is there, but

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Speaker 2: he's not a bust Caleb with Ben Johnson, with that

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Speaker 2: talent around him, It's gonna take time, but he will

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Speaker 2: be just fine. Please do not overreact for my sanity

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Speaker 2: to an interception in a practice. Coming up next, I

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Speaker 2: will tell you Jalen Hurts is getting properly ranked and

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Speaker 2: Eagles fans do not need to take so much offense

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Speaker 2: to everything said about your unbelievably successful football team. My

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Speaker 2: top ten NFL quarterbacks Next the hurt