1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hell. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 2: That for me. I'm a man, I'm forty. 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: be happy. You want to be happy for a day? 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: Edo state is that woo woom? 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: And then and Tye, welcome back to the solid rebel 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 2: boys and girls. My name is ty hilden Brandt. That 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: fine gentleman over there, the one, the only, always, the 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: incomparable Dan Rubinstein. You will hear his voice momentarily. This 10 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: is an excerpt from College Football Thursdays. It's the show 11 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: we do live on Spotify every Thursday evening at five 12 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: pm East two pm West. On today's excerpt, you're going 13 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 2: to hear Tye versus the World. It is a game 14 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: we like to play where I give five picks against 15 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: the spread. We invite five others from the audience up 16 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,959 Speaker 2: onto the virtual stage to give five picks that represent 17 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: the world. At the end of the week we add 18 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: up the results. Right now, winning percentage is exactly sixty percent. 19 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: We're trying to get that as high as possible. So 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 2: fingers crossed that week seven treats me well, hope you'll 21 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: stop by next Thursday, five pebs, two pm West Live 22 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: on Spotify. Here's Tie versus the World. Enjoy your week 23 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 2: seven Tie versus the World, Steve Time versus the World. 24 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 2: All right, Dan, are you ready? Are you ready? Are 25 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: you ready? 26 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: Of course? I am all right. 27 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: Well, I kind of gave away the game a little 28 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: bit here with the first two. But Penn State plus 29 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 2: seven at Michigan, Oklahoma minus nine at home against Kansas 30 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: first two picks. Here's my thing with Penn State. I 31 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 2: am horribly biased. Of course, I am horribly biased. This 32 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: is one of those games. On some level, I am 33 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: trying to speak this result into existence. Of any of 34 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: the five games that I'm going to give you here, 35 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 2: that is the one that you should bet the least 36 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: amount of your actual hard earned American kishon Okay, because 37 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: it is mostly a heart overhead type of scenario. I 38 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: believe Penn State is good enough to win that game. 39 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: I believe eventually, at some point there will be a 40 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: team that forces JJ McCarthy into a scenario that he 41 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: has yet to face, and that is the running game 42 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: around him is not nearly as effective and he has 43 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: to win it on his own right. I don't know. 44 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: I want to believe is a Penn State grad is 45 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: a Penn State fan that Penn State is good enough 46 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: to be that team. I want to believe that. I 47 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: can't say that with confidence, but I do know big 48 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: road spot. Penn State's been playing pretty well. This is 49 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 2: a big game for them. They will be up for it. 50 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 2: I believe they will keep this one close enough to 51 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: at least cover that seven point spread. So my first 52 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 2: pick here is Penn State plus to seven. 53 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: All right, fair enough. 54 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 2: My next pick is Oklahoma minus nine. I will try 55 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: to find a way to minus nine. I will try 56 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: to find a way to sugarcoat this as best I can, 57 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: because I love the Kansas story. Kansas is going to 58 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 2: be starting Jason Bean. The last I saw Jalen Daniels, 59 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: he of injury last week. To you know, varying degrees 60 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: with severity depending who you believe on Twitter, HM, Jalen 61 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: Daniels seems unlikely to play, which means we get Jason 62 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: being Jason Bean was good last week. I am not 63 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: a Kansas believer. I am a believer in the Kansas story. 64 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: I want to root on the Jayhawks. I am not 65 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 2: a Kansas believer. I believe Oklahoma State is tremendously undervalued 66 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 2: in this matchup for a couple reasons. First off, obviously, 67 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: just look at the optics of losing forty nine to 68 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: nil against your biggest rival. That doesn't look good. People 69 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: don't feel good about you if you lose by a 70 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: healthy margin such as that. If you look embarrassingly poor 71 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,839 Speaker 2: against your hated rival, no no one wants to bet 72 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: on you. That's just the way it is. The defense 73 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: has looked really bad in Kansas has a good offense. 74 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: I understand why people would want to go Kansas, but 75 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: I don't believe Oklahoma is quite as bad as we 76 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: saw last week. I also think it bears mentioning they 77 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: without Dylan Gabriel for two games now, and you get 78 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: him back this week at home against Kansas. I think 79 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: they've got a point to prove and they're going to 80 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: try and score as many points as humanly possible. This 81 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: is not a good Kansas defense. All it's going to 82 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: take for Oklahoma is one or two additional stops in 83 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 2: order to get enough cover here to win this one 84 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: going away. So I'm on the Sooners minus snide at home. 85 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: Counterpoint, I think they tried last week and the week 86 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: before that, and the week with Dylan Gabriel to score 87 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: as many points as humanly possible and didn't. I couldn't. 88 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. 89 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 2: I'm just saying against me at your own perils. 90 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: So what are they doing? Are they running the hell 91 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: out of the ball? You think Dylan Gabriel is going 92 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: to throw for a bajillion yards? Do you think they're 93 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: just going to both both just huddle up and be like, guys, 94 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: let's get it together, and they do. 95 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: Okay, yes, all of the above, All right. Pick number 96 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: three Arkansas now a pick'em over BYU kJ Jefferson's back. 97 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: Arkansas needs this one badly. They need this one badly. 98 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 2: I believe they will. They will be able to run 99 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: the ball with Raheem Sanders and with kJ Jefferson, and that, 100 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: from what I've seen on the BYU front, is a 101 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: pretty successful formula to win. I like the fact that 102 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: it's a pick them, although I was going to take 103 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: Arkansas even they were when they were favored by a 104 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 2: point and a half. So for me, yeah, for me, 105 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 2: this one is sort of a no brainer. I've got 106 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: some my own money on this one. I really like 107 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: the hogs. 108 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: Here disrespecting mountains again again. 109 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: You know, I like mountains, though worries. 110 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: No, you don't, No, you don't. You're taking the sea 111 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: level team. I have no idea where Fayettella is at 112 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: sea level, but you are taking this team definitely closer 113 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: to sea level in Arkansas than BYU at altitude. They 114 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: know this did come down. You're right. I understand why. 115 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 2: They need this win. They need this win more than 116 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: any team on this list. Arkansas, they need this win. 117 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: Okay. 118 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: North Carolina minus seven at Duke. I'm also not a 119 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 2: Duke believer. I'm not a Duke believer. I believe Duke's better. 120 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 2: I don't believe they're good enough to hang to score 121 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 2: with North Carolina. I know it's a rivalry, I don't care. 122 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 2: I think North Carolina is the better offense, the better team, 123 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: and I think by the time all is said and done, 124 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: we will probably be talking about North Carolina the way 125 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 2: we talk about Kansas now, the way everybody thinks Kansas 126 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: and their offense is legit. 127 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 128 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 2: I think North Carolina will be the rich man's version 129 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: of that come December, when, of course we know all 130 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 2: things college football. North Carolina minus seven on the road 131 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: at Duke. Now, North Carolina in a letdown spot. I 132 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 2: don't believe they've fully cured their defensive woes because Tyler 133 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 2: Van Dyke threw for like five hundred yards against them 134 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: last week. So if there were ever a team where 135 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 2: Sunday morning, you're gonna go, oh right, that thing that 136 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: we saw weekend and week out came back, it might 137 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: be North Carolina's defense leading the way to a duke 138 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,239 Speaker 2: win in a rivalry spot at home. 139 00:06:59,680 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: Right. 140 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: Maybe, Okay, we'll see Clayton by the way in the Chad, 141 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 2: thank you Clayton for half of my back here, says 142 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 2: North Carolina by thirty final pick here, and then we're 143 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: turning it over to the world. Yes, Wisconsin minus seven 144 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: and a half at Michigan State. 145 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: Oh ye consin minus seven and a half. 146 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: Okay, I was on Wisconsin last week minus ten against Northwestern. 147 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 2: By the way, I'm picking all like road teams again 148 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: with the exception of Oklahoma, which I hate doing, but 149 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: it keeps working out this way and I'm winning, so 150 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: I'm going to keep doing what works. I just I'll 151 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: come back to what I said earlier in the show. 152 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: I think these teams are going in opposite directions, and 153 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 2: I know it hasn't all been gravy for Wisconsin, right Obviously, 154 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 2: they fired Paul Christ of course, last week was a 155 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 2: net crack game for him. Last week was the kind 156 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 2: of game that they needed to have success through the 157 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: air to put up a bunch of points to build 158 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: some momentum for the back half of the season. That 159 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 2: is exactly what they needed Michigan State. I have no 160 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 2: understanding for where that team is headed right now, because 161 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: it seems a lot of what we thought might go 162 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 2: well in the preseason has collapsed. The defense hasn't gotten better, 163 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 2: they haven't gotten lyft from any of the transfers that 164 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: they brought over, at least not enough of a lift 165 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: to get this team to some higher level of efficiency. 166 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 2: I know that there are young guys playing all across 167 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: the board here along both lines and whatnot. I get 168 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 2: all that, but I just I don't think that the 169 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 2: feel good story of building under Meltucker for twenty twenty 170 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 2: three is enough to sideline a Wisconsin team that I 171 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 2: still believe has a lot to play for. So maybe 172 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: not so much in terms of like a Big Ten championship, 173 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 2: but definitely when it comes to trying to build for 174 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 2: who you think your new coach is going to be 175 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 2: who everybody thinks the new coach is going to be 176 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: in Jim Leonard, I really like Wisconsin going away here. 177 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 1: Sounds to me like you're saying double netcrack right to 178 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: that's of Northwestern and Michigan State back to back is 179 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: a nice way to sort of get into the second 180 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: half of the season, which, by the way, when you 181 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: look at Wisconsin's schedule, this is what we're looking at 182 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: back half for Jim Leonard in his interim status with 183 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: ie out presume read it out. So it's at Michigan 184 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: State winnable. Purdue at home I think difficult, but ultimately 185 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: like that could be a toss up because Purdue sort 186 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: of is all over the place in terms of how 187 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: they finish games as we saw last week and how 188 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 1: we saw the Syracuse game end Maryland, who I think 189 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: is quality, But I think that's winnable if Wisconsin is 190 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: able to get back on track at Iowa. I mean 191 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: another toss up like first to fourteen wins that game, 192 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: Nebraska atop the Big Ten West, But I'm not a 193 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,719 Speaker 1: big believer when a team that needs to come back 194 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: against Rutgers and Minnesota. Another like weird week to week 195 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: toss up as soon as they start playing weird excuse me, 196 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: as soon as they start playing real teams. So if 197 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: Wisconsin they're not going to get their together, they're not 198 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: going to look like the Wisconsin of old. But if 199 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: they're merely competitive and merely not making mistakes, and even 200 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: if they're a pickleball team in that they have to 201 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: sort of dink and doink down the field and aren't 202 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: generating explosive plays anymore often, these are all relatively winnable games. 203 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: Now I come into this with the baggage of like, oh, 204 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: of course Wisconsin has more All American linebackers, and of 205 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: course Wisconsin has an efficient quarterback who's getting it to 206 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: an All American caliber tight end. That's not the situation 207 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: in Wisconsin right now. This is a new look Wisconsin team, 208 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: not necessarily in a good way. But if they're merely 209 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: a B minus Big Ten team, they can win a 210 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: lot of these late just staying close, just hanging around, 211 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: drafting behind the opportunity truck. I don't think they will 212 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 1: win a majority of these games. I think it's probably 213 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: going to be a split, Like they'll beat Nebraska and 214 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: Iowa and Maryland but lose to Purdue in Minnesota or 215 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: something like that. But I think there's potential for them 216 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: to at least get their act together and be a 217 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: little bit more creative in the way that they move 218 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: the ball. 219 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 2: Five picks this week, again, just to rehash, we've got 220 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 2: Penn State plus seven, Oklahoma minus nine, the Arkansas pick'em, 221 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: North Carolina minus seven, and the rivalry against Duke and 222 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: Wisconsin minus seven and a half. On the road in 223 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 2: East Lansing last week, I went three to one and one. 224 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 2: My overall record is seventeen eleven and two, which puts 225 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 2: me right at sixty percent winning percentage. 226 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: You hear that, ladies,