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I live at Hawker at this view. 27 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: Oh give me give me the address. I just I 28 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: just looked here. I'moves get it. Oh my god. A 29 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: chill goes down your spine when you hear those words. 30 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: You are hearing the nine one one call placed by 31 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: Faith Hedgepath roommate Karina Rosario, Faith hedge Path. A beautiful 32 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: young girl found dead and still no answers. I Nancy Grace, 33 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. 34 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,119 Speaker 1: What can we learn from that nine one one call 35 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: as we try to solve the mystery and get a 36 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: killer behind bars? Listen? I just I just looked here. 37 00:02:53,960 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: I'moves get it. Oh my god, it's um extreme nine 38 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: Old Chaplin Hill Road in Girm. Okay, you say your 39 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: friend is unconscious. He's unconscious. I just want the appointment 40 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: and there looks like Okay, listen to okay, listen to me. 41 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: Listen to me, somebody's already sending the ambulance. Okay, I 42 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: need to get some information from you, and I'm gonna 43 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 1: I'm gonna help. I'm gonna tell you how to help her. Okay, Okay, okay, 44 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: how how old is your How old is she's not? Okay? 45 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't tim it touched here? But 46 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: listen to me. Is she breathing? I don't know. You 47 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: need to check and see is she breathing? I don't 48 00:03:53,120 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: think so. I don't think so. Okay, listen to me. Freewhere, 49 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: there's there's food again. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. 50 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us. What happened to Faith Hedgepath? 51 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: A beautiful young girl found dead. I just can't believe 52 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: that this time has passed and this little girl's killer 53 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: has still not been brought to justice. Joining me Joseph 54 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: Scott Morgan, death scene investigator, Professor Forensics at Jacksonville State 55 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: University and author of Blood Beneath My Feet. Doctor Michelle Dupree, 56 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: South Carolina medical examiner and author of Homicide Investigation Field Guide. 57 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: Renowned North Carolina family lawyer Kathleen Murphy. Also with me, 58 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: Renowned new York psychiatrist doctor Judith Fiona Joseph straight out 59 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,559 Speaker 1: to syndicated talk show host David Mack. David, let's start 60 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: at the beginning. What happened? Faith in her roommate went 61 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: out to an club earlier in the evening. They had 62 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: already been studying, they'd gone out, and they got home 63 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 1: about two thirty three o'clock in the morning. Now, there 64 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: were a number of people involved in this scenario with 65 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: Faith and her roommate, men in particular, and a number 66 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: of text messages and calls were placed to several different 67 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: young men. But all we know is that Karin, her roommate, 68 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,799 Speaker 1: left at about three or about four thirty in the morning, 69 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: and when she returned at eleven o'clock, she found her 70 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: roommates Faith in bed, bludging to death and a very 71 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: very bloody crime scene. You know, it's actually a death 72 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: investigator's field day to find a crime scene with that 73 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: much forensic evidence. I'm going to go to doctor Michelle 74 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: Dupree on cause of death, but to Joe Scott Morgan, 75 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: death scene investigator. Joe, question to you, what do you do? 76 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: Can there be a scene where there's so much blood 77 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: that it actually obscures evidence. Yeah, yeah, Ken, that is 78 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: evidence as it is viewed through the unaided eye. There 79 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: are things that we can do back at the lab, 80 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: but yeah, just initially upon your initial observation. When you 81 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: walk into a scene like this, Nancy, many times the 82 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: area is just completely bathed in blood, and so it 83 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: obscures a lot of other evidence that otherwise might appear. 84 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: Just plain, you know, plain in plain side without the blood. 85 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,239 Speaker 1: To doctor Michelle du Pre, South Carolina Medical Examiner dodgor 86 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: g Pre, another issue when a scene is literally drenched 87 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: with blood, stabbing or cutting or piercing the skin may 88 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: not be the cause of death. How can that be? 89 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: That's absolutely right, Nancy. That's why we do on autopsy, 90 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: because we examine the entire physical outside and inside of 91 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: the body. A lot of blood just simply means that 92 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,799 Speaker 1: you hint a vessel that blieds A lot. Head injuries 93 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: are very good example, you know. To doctor Judith Theona Joseph, 94 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: now chiatrist, I'm about to play the rest of that 95 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: nine one one call for you, but doctor Joseph, again, 96 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. The previous night, Faith 97 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: hedgepath and roommate Rosario had gone out to a Chapel 98 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: Hill nightclub. Now there was a pocket dial voicemail that 99 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: revealed hedge Path, another woman and two men. We're at 100 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: the club a few hours before she was killed, Doctor Joseph. 101 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: How can a night out having fun with your friends 102 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: go so wrong? Well, you know, this is a perfect case, 103 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: and the nine one call is terrifying. I mean, imagine 104 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: the scene that she walked upon, if she in fact 105 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: walked upon the scene. So, you know, when you mix 106 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: drugs and alcohol, it's a deadly combination. And what we 107 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: find is that most cases of violence, especially in the 108 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: mental health field, occur when there's a mix of drugs 109 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: an all hal and unfortunately at night during nightlife scenes 110 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: in college, there's a lot of drugs and alcohol. So 111 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: sometimes a night out of fun can end up in 112 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: a night out, can end up being a night out 113 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: in terror. What we know that they were was that 114 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: they were at a bar. There was some drinking. But 115 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: I don't believe that Fate Hedgepath or Hat was even 116 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: over the legal limit. Let's see what we can determine 117 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: from the nine one one call. I don't know what, okay, 118 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: is she on her back or is she on her 119 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: laying on their stomach. You know, I love the back 120 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: like she I think she fell off the bed because 121 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: she's like off said, thanks, flood all over the pillows 122 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: like in the comfort there. Okay, all right, listen, Tommy, 123 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: all right, yes, I've got somebody's coming. I've got somebody coming. 124 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: I need for you to help her. I need for 125 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 1: you to go up to her. We need to see 126 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: if she's breathing or not. Okay, okay, listen to me. 127 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: Go up. The paramedics are on their way. I want 128 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: you to stay on the line. I'm gonna tell you 129 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: what to do next. All right. Are you right by 130 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: her now? Yes? Okay, listen, cheerfully listen. She's not moving, okay, 131 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: and will you touch her arm? Tell me does she 132 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: how does she feels? Okay, ma'am. We need to find 133 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: out if we can help her or not. You've got to, 134 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: you know, do as I'm asking so we can help her. 135 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: All right, Okay, if you can lay her flat on 136 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: her back, remove any tell please, flat on her back, 137 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: flat on her back, remove any pillows. Okay, Okay, Neil. Next, 138 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: we're looking her mouth for food or vomit. But okay, Neil, next, 139 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: we're looking her mouth for food or vomito. Tell me something. 140 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: Continue listen to what is your name? Sorry, I'm really 141 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: it's okay, hundred okay, all right, all right, all right, 142 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 1: listen to me. When you touch and how does she feel? 143 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: Does she feel warm? So she so cold? She feels cold? Okay, okay, 144 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: all right, don't touch anything else. Okay, don't touch anything else. Okay, 145 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 1: they're on their way. I've got police on the way 146 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: to you, and I've got to back met it kind 147 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: of way. Okay, please, Okay, what room is she am? 148 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 1: That room? Okay? I want you to go back into 149 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: the living room. Okay, I need to go and I'm like, okay, listen, 150 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: listen to that. Like was not here before? Okay, listen, 151 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: someone came in here. Okay, okay, it really does all right? 152 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: What what did you say? Your name was? Again? Here? 153 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: Because okay, I don't care. Okay, listen to me, Jude, 154 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,599 Speaker 1: don't touch anything out in the room. I want you 155 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: to leave. Leave that room, go into the living room. 156 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: You need to make door. Make sure the door is 157 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: unlocked so somebody can get in, so the dometics and 158 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: the police can get in when they get there, Okay, 159 00:11:54,000 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: it's unlock. Okay, now get here though. Okay. They're on 160 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: their way, honey, they're coming as fast as they can. 161 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: You just stay on the phone with me, all right. Okay, 162 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: tell me again what your name is? It looks like 163 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: one in there because I'm okay, okay, I've let them know. 164 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: We've got everybody on the way to help you. Now 165 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: if you tell me again what your name is? What? 166 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: What is your name? Tereo Farina? He is, okay, Karina. 167 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: You just you sit down on the couch and don't 168 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: touch anything. Okay, you just fit okay, Okay. What happened 169 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: to Fate Hedgepath. She's absolutely stunning. I'm looking at her 170 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: right now, and this is what you don't want to see, 171 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,599 Speaker 1: a picture of your beautiful girl smiling. Her hair is 172 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: all and curls around her face. She looks a lot 173 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:03,599 Speaker 1: to me like Julia Louise Dreyfus. She's just stunning. And 174 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: then below that is a picture of her gravestone. Faith 175 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: Danielle Hedgepath. I always try to start a murder case, 176 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: a homicide case with a nine one one call when 177 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: presenting to a jury. Why because it takes you Kathleen Murphy, 178 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: North Carolina family lawyer. Back to the moment of the crime, 179 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: the moment as close as we can get to the crime, 180 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 1: and everything you hear at that moment in that nine 181 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: one one call factors into what happened. For instance, we 182 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: find out she is lying there in her bedroom naked 183 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: and the bed covers are covered in blood. That tells 184 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: me this was a sex attack or sex attempt, that's 185 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 1: what happened. And that she was cut with a sharp object, 186 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: which turns out to be, by the way, a rum bottle. 187 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: I mean, Kathleen Murphy. If you listen very carefully to 188 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: the nine one one causes so many cases, you learn 189 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: the elements of the crime, you absolutely do. And in 190 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: this neighborhood that she was about thirty minutes from where 191 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: I live, it's a safe neighborhood, it's a safe campus. 192 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: It's a difficult school to get into. These not individuals 193 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: that are troubled individuals. And when she's out at a 194 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: bar with her friends. The investigation that has come about 195 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: is looking into the relationships she had with the people 196 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: that she surrounded herself with. They did a DNA FEMOE 197 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: type model of what they suspect. The killer could look 198 00:14:55,440 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: like he's a male. Some individuals want to alleged that 199 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: her roommate is responsible for this crime, but the photograph 200 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: from the DNA phenotyping shows a male and they used 201 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: that photograph to narrow the list of suspects in this case. Well, 202 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: I can tell you right now that this is not 203 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: the work of a female killer. Joseph Scott Morgan joining 204 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: the author of Blood Beneath My Feet, this is a 205 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: male murder. The roommate left and that has been established. 206 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: Early early that morning, she came back and found Fate 207 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: Hedgepath dead. This was a sex assault or an attempt 208 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: an attempted sex assault. Yeah, it was Nancy. And they 209 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: did find semen at the scene as well. And the 210 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: curious thing about this is that the semen that they 211 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: found within this within the rape kit that they that 212 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: they collected at autopsy, it also matched DNA sample that 213 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: was taken from around the surrounding area within the apartment. 214 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: So that's kind of compelling as well. That gives me 215 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: an indication that either the subject cut themselves with this 216 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: rum bottle that they used, which I like to refer 217 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: to as a weapon of convenience, and we can go 218 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: into that or they did touch DNA sampling where they 219 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: collected partial DNA from slough skin cells. Very difficult to do. 220 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: To doctor Michelle Dupree, joining us out of South Carolina 221 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: over now medical examiner. The autopsy determined she was not 222 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: stabbed to death, she was beaten to death and she 223 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: died of blunt force trauma to the head. Why is 224 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: that typically not a female crime, Nancy, It's typically not 225 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: a female crime because it takes some strength to do that. 226 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: Most women are not going to pick up a blunt 227 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: object and strike someone else. They just don't have a 228 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: physical strength to do that. Question about this to doctor 229 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: Judith Fiona Joseph, New York Psychiatrists, joining us from Manhattan. 230 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: Doctor Joseph, what does that say to you about the 231 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: mind of the killer that not only would he and 232 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: it is a he beat her dead, the cause of 233 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: death were blows to the head. Doctor, Yeah, it sounds 234 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: like a very rageful murder and very personal. And so 235 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: you know, most of these crimes where women are attacked 236 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: involves someone that they know. And like I said earlier, 237 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: when you mixed drugs and alcohol into any situation, you 238 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: just heighten the level of intensity of violence. So this 239 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: is probably someone that she knew who was intoxicated and 240 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: full of rage, and then we know what happened in 241 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: the end. You know, the Chapel Hill Police Chief Chris 242 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: Blue has been making public appeals for help in the 243 00:17:56,280 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: case to solve the murder. A Fate Hedgepath. What do 244 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: we know about Faith David Matt What do we know 245 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: about her? We know that she was a great student, 246 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: that she was a Native American tribe in western North Carolina. 247 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: But we also know that she took a semester off 248 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: of school because she needed to raise some money. She 249 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: was working two jobs as a full time student. I 250 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: do want to go back to something you guys have 251 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: talked about with the potential crime. The weapon that was used, 252 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: that Bacardi run bottle. That bottle was tested and they 253 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: determined that sixteen miles per hour of force would have 254 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 1: caused the blunt force trauma two major hits to her head. 255 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: But the bottle wasn't broken and it didn't a similar 256 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 1: bottle did not break in testing. It's got blood all 257 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: over it. They have identified that as the murder weapon, 258 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: and that's why they I've actually seen a picture of 259 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: this bloody Bacardi bottle. The thing is, Nancy, is that 260 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: there that you mentioned the butt dial phone call, Well, 261 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: you know that night the cell phone provider involved in 262 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: that actually had a major glitch and it caused a 263 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: time shift of over two hours of time stamps during 264 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: a twelve hour window at the time this took place. 265 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: So where they're trying to place that butt dial at 266 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: the club at about one thirty, it actually could have 267 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: been placed at three thirty in the morning. And on 268 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: top of that, at the time if that happened at 269 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: three thirty in the morning, a neighbor downstairs heard what 270 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: she believed could be some very loud thuds going on 271 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: upstairs in the apartment. Take a listen to the Chapel 272 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: Hill Police Chief Chris Blue defeating one tourist in the 273 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: area and saw something that they thought, no matter how insignificant, 274 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,959 Speaker 1: might have a connection. If they would come forward, if 275 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: they heard something overheard, someone mentioned something that seems related 276 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: to this case, we would hope they would come forward. 277 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: They heard something that struck in the strange, would hope 278 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: they would come forward. If the killer is out there 279 00:19:50,440 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: hearing this message, know this, we will fashion Do you 280 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: know another parent or expecting parent. Are you wondering what 281 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: can I give them as a gift. Don't give them 282 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: another onesie, don't give them a plastic toy or God 283 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: forbid toory gun that's just going to end up in 284 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: the garage. Give them something that matters, and what matters 285 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: the most is protecting their child. What do you love 286 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: most in the world Your children? What will you do 287 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: to protect them anything. I sat down with these smartest 288 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: people I know in the world on matters of child's safety, 289 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: finding missing children, fighting back against predators, and what I 290 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: learned is so important, powerful and information so critical. I 291 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: want you to have it. I want them to have it. 292 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: Go to crimestops here dot com for a five part 293 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: series with action information that you can use to change 294 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: your life and protect your child payments starting six ninety nine. 295 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: Give that as a gift, not another one ze. Find 296 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: out how to protect your child when you're out of 297 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: the mall or the store, or the grocery, in the 298 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: parking lot at home. Find out about protection regarding babysitters, 299 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: in daycare, even online. I'd rather have that any day 300 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: of the week than a plastic toy or God forbid 301 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: a toy gun, Join Justice Nation, go to crime stops 302 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: here dot com Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. But I 303 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: believe there's somebody out there that knows something, and I 304 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: believe maybe it doesn't matter. I'm just and I said, 305 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: I want to plead to the public. I want to 306 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: beg you if you think you know anything at all, 307 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: perhaps perhaps you think that what you know is very 308 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: insignificant because you probably think it is already reported. That 309 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: you don't know that, Okay, that anything at all, Anything 310 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: that anybody saw him, whether they think it was out 311 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: of character or not, if they saw anything, just please 312 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: report College Chappel Hill Police Department or SBI and report it. 313 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: I am so convinced that it's just the difference in 314 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: solving this case and it going cold is just one path. 315 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: You are hearing the father of Faith Hedgepath begging for help, 316 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: begging for help in the murder of his gorgeous young daughter, 317 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: nineteen year old Faith Hedgepath. FBI analysts have now issued 318 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: a profile of the men they believe that murdered the 319 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,719 Speaker 1: nineteen year old University of North Carolina Chapel Hills student 320 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: Faith Danielle Hedgepath. It was a quiet neighborhood where she 321 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: lived off campus with another young girl, and a very 322 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: difficult school to get into, very exclusive to get into. 323 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: Chapel Hill. DNA evidence found in Faith's apartment. According to reports, 324 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: Hedgepath found dead in her bedroom at her apartment there 325 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 1: at Chapel Hill just hours just a few hours after 326 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: she was last seen alive. She had gone out with 327 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: girlfriends to a local nightclub called The Thrill the night before. 328 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: The FI Behavioral Analysis Unit insists the killer new Hedgepath, 329 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: maybe lived near her now or in the past, may 330 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: have made comments about her to friends or co workers. 331 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 1: Did the killer's behavior change after her death, maybe an 332 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: odd interest in her case or a change at work 333 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: or at school. Investigators say the crime lab definitely found 334 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: DNA in the apartment by a man. Now, they have 335 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: not disclosed where the DNA was found, as you heard 336 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: just got Mo're gonna say it was around the apartment, 337 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 1: but they were convinced it would lead them to Faith's killer. 338 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: If you have information, please call nine one nine six 339 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 1: one four sixty three sixty three, repeat nine one four 340 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: six one four sixty three sixty three or crime stoppers 341 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: nine one nine sixty four two seven five, one five, nine, 342 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: one nine nine four two seven five one five. It 343 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: hurts me to hear her father begging, begging for that 344 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: one tip that will crack the case. Is that tip 345 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: a note left at the scene that has just been 346 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: revealed by police and as it relates to that DNA. 347 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: To Joseph Scott Morgan, desine investigator and author, we may 348 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,719 Speaker 1: have all the DNA in the world, but you've got 349 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: to have something to match it too, Joe Scott. Yeah, 350 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: you're absolutely right, Nancy. And unfortunately there is not a 351 00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: tremendous DNA database like fingerprints say, for instance. We've got 352 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: some databases that are out there, so it's kind of limiting. 353 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 1: But Nancy, they took samples, reportedly took samples of one 354 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: hundred people, one hundred people that were at least associated 355 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: with her in some way, and none of them have 356 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: come back as a match. There's been between a thousand 357 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: and two thousand people interviewed in this particular case, so 358 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: the case has been very wide ranging. I agree with 359 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: the Behavioral Sciences Unit. This crime is so passionate, it's 360 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: so brutal. I think that someone was very, very angry, 361 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: and they were within her circle. They knew her, they'd 362 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: been watching her, probably, and they assaulted her. Lord only 363 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: knows how and for how long. Take a listen to 364 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: what we can learn from the nine one one call. 365 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 1: I just want you to sit down, because the LEAs 366 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: and the medics are going to be there, just there, 367 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: coming to the best as they can, all right. They 368 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: just you could stay on the phone of the name. Okay, 369 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: let me just stay on the phone with me. Are 370 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: you here, yes, ma'am. They are on their way in there. Okay, 371 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: We've got we've got first responders on the way. There's 372 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: firetop coming, there's a medic coming, and the sheriff's departments 373 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: on the way to you. Okay, you just stay on 374 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: the phone with me until somebody gets there with you, right, okay, Karina? 375 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: How old are you? Karina twenty? You're twenty? Okay, honey, 376 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: you're doing all right? Are you doing all? You? Just 377 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: stay on the phone. You see the police, yes, okay. 378 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: You let me know when they get in there with you, 379 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: and then you can talk to them. I I just 380 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 1: don't want you to be along right now. Okay, Okay, 381 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: stay on the phone with me. To David Max, syndicated 382 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: talk show host David tell me about a recently revealed 383 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: note found at the scene. There was apparently they had 384 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: gone to a fast food restaurant on their way home 385 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: from the club, and in the midst of this horribly 386 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: bloody crime scene, there was a note written on the 387 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: back of this fast food bag. Do you want me 388 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: to give you the actual text of it? Yeah, because 389 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: all right, he said, I'm not stupid, bitch jealous. And 390 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: their part about this that bothers the investigators is that 391 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: this was written there's no blood on the bag. The 392 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: DNA on the pen matches up with the sperm they 393 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: found near the body, and yet there's no blood on 394 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: that bag, meaning that the perpetrator actually felt comfortable enough 395 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,479 Speaker 1: in this apartment, knowing nobody was coming home, and cleaned 396 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: himself up before writing that note. And one of the 397 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: experts I heard talking about that specific note said that 398 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: it seemed like there was a deliberate deception, like maybe 399 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: somebody used their non writing hand to write that note, 400 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: and it just it really blows the case wide open 401 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: because of the anger in the context. Let's go to 402 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: New York psychiatrists. Joining us from Manhattan, doctor Judith Fiona Joseph, 403 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: doctor Joseph, what does it say to you that the 404 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: killer actually left a note and also that there was 405 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: no blood on the note. What does the note reveal 406 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: in your mind? We gotta get inside the mind of 407 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: this killer. That tells me that this person again was 408 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: full of rage and had no remorse, because after a killing, 409 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes in the heat of passion, a crime 410 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: of passion, there's there's remorse, you know, because it's it 411 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: is heat. At the moment you had this grudge, you 412 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: did something, and then immediately after you probably feel remorse 413 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: or regret. This person had no regrets. In fact, this 414 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: person wanted to leave a statement and that is horrific. 415 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: So to you, Kathleen Murphy, this is in your backyard, 416 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: Kathleen Murphy, North Carolina family lawyer joining us. You know, 417 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: Chapel Hill is very, very prestigious. It's very hard to 418 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: get into. What do all these factors tell you, Kathleen, 419 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: What do you know about the community. It is a 420 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: beautiful campus. The students there are aboff par It is 421 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: very difficult to get into the school. It is a 422 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: beautiful campus. And it just convinces me that this is 423 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: somebody that she knew, and I cannot believe with all 424 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: the DNA samples that they took from her circle of friends, 425 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: that they haven't had a match yet. And that is 426 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: concerning to me. Well, what it says to me is 427 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: the PERP is not in the DNA data bank, or 428 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: the fingerprints are not in the data bank, because you've 429 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: got codas and you've got aphis. One is about DNA. 430 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: One is about fingerprints unless you are a civil servant 431 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: or a cop or in the military, or you have 432 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: a criminal wrecker. I mean, my fingerprints are on file 433 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: from being a prosecute. And that's the first thing I 434 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: had to do before I got my job. I had 435 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: to my fingerprints. So people are in the system. But 436 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: if you're not in the system, there's nothing to compare 437 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: those prints or that DNA too. So you may have 438 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: a wealth of DNA, but you can't get a match. 439 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: I want you to listen to something that literally haunts me. 440 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: This is Faith's father, Rolling Hedgepath. Faith was my my 441 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: youngest daughter, my baby girl. She was born at a 442 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,719 Speaker 1: real bad time in my life. I mean a good 443 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: time for her to be born, but one of the 444 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: lowest points of my life. And she was a god 445 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: sin to give me a reason to live. Faith was 446 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: a pretty baby, Okay, from the moment they brought her 447 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: out of the delivery room, the first time I saw her, 448 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: she was just a beautiful little girl. And uh, you know, 449 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: everybody thinks their child's pretty good. Sometimes newborns are not 450 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: so pretty people, but uh, Faith was just pretty. And 451 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: she never really changed a whole lot from that aspect. 452 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: But her beauty would Her beauty didn't lie on her exterior, 453 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: you know, her beauty was from with him. That's the 454 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: beauty that I saw. I've always heard that, uh you know, O, 455 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: parents should never have to bury their children or the child, 456 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: and I guess in a perfect world that's true, but 457 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: it certainly would was it the case here? Um? We 458 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: buried Faith on September twelve, twenty twelve, and her leavingess 459 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: has just left such a board. I don't really know 460 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: how to describe it. Okay, Yea, So you know, the worst, 461 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: the worst thing I ever heard in my whole life 462 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: was that she had died, and uh, you know, and 463 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: the hardest thing I've done since then, the hardest thing 464 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: I've ever done is just live every day since then. 465 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: You're hearing Faith hedge pass father Roland talking about the 466 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: loss of his as he says, baby girl and what 467 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: he is going through is pure hell hell, and it's 468 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: only compounded by the fact that her case has not 469 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: been solved. Among brand new details made available to us 470 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: is a note scribbled on a fast food bag left 471 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: next to her naked body that reads, according to Dave Mack, 472 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: I'm not stupid bitch jealous. That's what the note said 473 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: as compared to everything else in the bedroom where she 474 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: was found naked and dead. It doesn't have a drop 475 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: of blood on it. I'm looking at it right now 476 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: and you can see it on crime online dot com 477 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: and here the very latest See the very latest about 478 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: Faith hedge Pass death. What doesn't tell us I'm not 479 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: stupid bitch jealous? To doctor Michelle Dupree rightnown medical examiner 480 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: and author of homicide Investigation fuel Guide. Doctor Dupree is 481 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: a bringing back memories of the Jamboni Ramsey murder. And 482 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: I'll tell you why, because that perp was not afraid 483 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: somebody was gonna walk in the front door and see 484 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: them sitting there writing a ransom note on Patsy Ramsey's 485 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: notepad with Patsy Ramsey's writing pen or sharpie. No, they 486 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: were relaxed in the home. They wrote a draft and 487 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: a full on I think it was a two page letter. 488 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: They were not worried of detection at all. And this 489 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: person a parallel, This person is not worried. What does 490 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: that mean to you, doctor Michelle Duprie about this murder? Now, 491 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: that tells me that this person was well organized, This 492 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: is well found out. There's probably going to be not 493 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: that much forensicabitance except for the DNA. It also tells 494 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: me that this person was very, very comfortable in this 495 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: location and probably knew her and, as we've said before, 496 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: knew that they would have time to do this horrific crime. 497 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: What else do we know? Face's body was found in 498 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: a pool of blood. There was a blood spider on 499 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: the wall and the bedroom closet door of the apartment. 500 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: To Joseph Scott, Morgan death investigator and author of Blood 501 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 1: Beneath My Feet, Joseph Scott, what does that mean to you? 502 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: Blood found on the wall and also on the closet 503 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: door of her apartment. Well, not knowing what the nature 504 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: of this blood is, I can only assume that it's 505 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: probably cast off and what that means is, as she's 506 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: being struck with this heavy rum bottle, which has already 507 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 1: been stated, was not broken this blood. If people at 508 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: home will just think about taking a paintbrush and dipping 509 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: it into a can of paint and slinging it over 510 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: the shoulder, this creates cast off and so those are 511 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: a little particulate. And what this can tell us is 512 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: actually the position of the perpetrator relative to the victim. 513 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: My suspicion is is that they were obviously in a 514 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: dominant position. They were on top of her beating her 515 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: with this. Now, if I could just address one thing 516 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 1: about this note, because I think it's quite telling Nancy. 517 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: First off, as you note, as was stated earlier, there 518 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: was no blood on the note. That means that, in 519 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: my estimation at least, either the note was written beforehand 520 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: or after this event took place, someone cleaning their hands 521 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: prior to writing this thing. One more thing and I'll 522 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,879 Speaker 1: be quiet. The note itself is written in a very 523 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: particular fashion. If you read the text of the note, 524 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: it's in three distinct lines that are stamped, that are 525 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: stacked on top of one another. The top statement says, 526 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:39,280 Speaker 1: I am not stupid and then the word bitch appears 527 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: in the second line, and it's bold, it's bolder than 528 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: anything else. And then below it it says jealous. This 529 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: looks like it was written in a fevered manner. It's 530 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 1: kind of disorganized and overlapping the letters are. And they've 531 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: already had a question document examiner look at this thing. 532 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure several have at this point in time, and 533 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,280 Speaker 1: they will be able, I think, to match handwriting with someone. 534 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 1: We know that Hedgepath and roommate Rosario left the bar 535 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: together and drove back to their old Durham Road apartment 536 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: in Hedgepath's white Nissan Ultima. Rosario left soon thereafter, but 537 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: when she came back that morning around eleven am with 538 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: a friend, the two of them find Faith's body. We 539 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,240 Speaker 1: know that investigators have collected hundreds of items of evidence. 540 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: They've interviewed friends, family, co workers, neighbors. They've consulted with 541 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,919 Speaker 1: scientific experts. They circled back to classmates of hers. They've 542 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: asked persons of interest to give DNA swabs to compare. 543 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: They collected hundreds of samples. So far, none have been 544 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: a match. Chief Blue says that key piece of information 545 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: is still out there. What happened? Who killed Faith Hedgepath 546 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: Take a listen to Faith's father. My last believing memory 547 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,399 Speaker 1: of her vis just here at this home. She came 548 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: to visit me on Father's Day and on June or 549 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 1: twenty twelve. I had just undergone a total hip transplant 550 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: and about a week a little morning a week before, 551 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: and I was very weak, and but she came to 552 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 1: saving for Father's Day, and I had no idea it 553 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: was the last time I was gonna see her. We 554 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 1: talked every week, several times a week normally if I 555 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 1: could get up with her either we texted, were talked, 556 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: and she was a highlight of my day normally, and 557 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: our conversations when we I just I always would close 558 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: our conversations with you know. I'd always tell her to 559 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 1: read her Bible and pray, and I'd always tell her 560 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: to be careful of the company she killed. You know. 561 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 1: I always watched her surroundings. And I look back at 562 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: even some of the letters that I wrote her that 563 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: her mother gave back to me, and I put the 564 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: same thing, same things in your letters, you know, But 565 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,280 Speaker 1: in the end it didn't seem to make any difference. 566 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: If that does not make you want to run to 567 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: your children's school and make sure they're okay, or check 568 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,320 Speaker 1: on them, or call them. It's just overwhelming to me 569 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,800 Speaker 1: to hear Faith's father in such deep despair. Let me 570 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 1: remind you there is a forty thousand dollar reward to 571 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: help solve the murder a Faith Hedgepath there in North Carolina, 572 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: forty thousand dollars. If you have information, please dial nine 573 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: one nine six one four sixty three sixty three, repeat 574 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 1: nine one nine six one four sixty three sixty three 575 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 1: or nine one, nine, nine four two seven five one 576 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: five nine one nine nine four two seven five one 577 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: five Nanzi Grace Crime Story signing off, goodbye friend