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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season fourteen, episode one

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Speaker 1: of DOS Daily's eight Guys. January six, two thousand eight teen.

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Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien. A kay little ditty about

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Speaker 1: Jack O'Brian Andrew Thomas, and I am joined by my

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Speaker 1: cost Mr Miles Gray. I don't know what to say

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Speaker 1: since you sang, but because of the events of the weekend,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to say, it's in your head some

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Speaker 1: gray salm Gray som Gray, Hey, thank you. I thought

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Speaker 1: that was gonna keep going. No, no, that was that

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Speaker 1: was for the Homie Dilors. Weirded died suddenly, very tragically,

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Speaker 1: And if you're anybody who was conscious in the nineties,

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Speaker 1: there's no way you can say The Cranberries was a

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Speaker 1: bad band because pivotal they gave us a lot there

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Speaker 1: important and she is amazing many emotional moments when I

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Speaker 1: was like thirteen year old. We're had with with the

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Speaker 1: Cranberries and we are thrilled to be joining our third

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Speaker 1: teat by the hilarious comedian and writer Teresa Lee. Hi.

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Speaker 1: You guys always have such cool like intros nicknames, and

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Speaker 1: I was trying to take up one, but I said,

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Speaker 1: come on, it's like, you know, there's always a stream

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Speaker 1: of like it's me, I'm the doctor and the of

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Speaker 1: the h and I'm just like I'm the like I

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Speaker 1: see Larisa t that's your Twitter handle. I'm sorry, I

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Speaker 1: just I don't have Teresa. What's something from your search

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Speaker 1: history that is revealing about who you are? Oh? Um,

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Speaker 1: I recently searched can you give a cat dog food? Well?

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Speaker 1: I don't have a cat full disclaimer, but I have

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Speaker 1: a dog and dog food. And there was a straight

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Speaker 1: cat out on my door. Um, and it was cold

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Speaker 1: and rainy, and the cat was a kitten and it

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Speaker 1: looks sad and it kept following me like it wouldn't

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Speaker 1: want me in. So I was like, maybe maybe it's hungry.

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Speaker 1: But I don't have catfood. I was like, oh, have

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Speaker 1: dog food? Can I eat it? And they can't. So

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Speaker 1: they can't eat dog food no, but they can eat eggs.

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Speaker 1: So I made the cat eggs. But then she ran

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Speaker 1: away because my dog barked her. So I think she's fine,

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Speaker 1: we'll see Wait so wait, you can't give wait why

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Speaker 1: can't you give a cat dog food? The Internet said

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Speaker 1: you can't. It said it's not digestible for them. It's

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Speaker 1: processed for them. How do you some dog? Full disclosure? Right?

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Speaker 1: So I have I have I have two cats and

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Speaker 1: a dog, and the other day, like I make all

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Speaker 1: like it's feeding time, and in a rush through the

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Speaker 1: cat threw the dog food the bull. They all use

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Speaker 1: the same kind of bull. I put the cat food

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Speaker 1: of the cat, and I only realized like later, for

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Speaker 1: my girlfriend did and I was like, why did you

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Speaker 1: give the cat dogs? I was like, oh, ship and

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Speaker 1: the cat they didn't eat much of it, so maybe

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Speaker 1: that's why. Because even the cat was like, no, I'm

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Speaker 1: not really working with this, even though it's like I

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Speaker 1: have to go, I give like my dog raw dog

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Speaker 1: it's okay. Also, I feel like your pets are um

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Speaker 1: And he was fine, he was fine. My dog has

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Speaker 1: dog has an iron stomach. Because the thing is, as

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Speaker 1: I read in a panic Google search, it's clearly it's

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Speaker 1: the darker the chocolate the more dangerous. And like Baker's chocolate,

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Speaker 1: so we're fine, We're all good pet owners here. Also, coffee,

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Speaker 1: and dogs, I'm told. Is yeah, good to know for

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Speaker 1: all the parents that were one out there, don't give

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Speaker 1: Cats get down like that, Teresa, what's something that's overridden? Um?

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Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people want to agree

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Speaker 1: I've seen this before. Well, you are somebody from northern

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Speaker 1: I related too much to exactly what the movie is about.

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Speaker 1: So maybe it's struck too close to home. Right. It's

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Speaker 1: with people of humendous are humanitous tremendous humanity. Let's let's

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Speaker 1: make some tea shirts of that, please. Uh, But like,

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Speaker 1: changing the world, talking about pop culture, the news and

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Speaker 1: And the way we like to open up is by

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Speaker 1: asking our guest, what's a myth? What's something that most

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Speaker 1: false or you know incorrect. Teresa, Well, Um, I am

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Speaker 1: it's not true. It's actually much harder because you have

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Speaker 1: for me getting into like whether or not as he

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Speaker 1: should be can sort or whatever. That's like an other

427
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 1: more nuanced debate because I don't I don't even know

428
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: how the funk we should even talk about, right well,

429
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, that like

430
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 1: the cancel stuff and the job stuff that's all gonna

431
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 1: when people don't see this when they're blogging, But that

432
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 1: all comes down to business, and that's like, you know,

433
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 1: business people are gonna make their decisions based on what's

434
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: good for business. So when they cancel something, they do

435
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: it because they don't think it's good for business, or

436
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,479
Speaker 1: maybe they have a moral sense, who knows, But ultimately

437
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the way to fight sexual assault

438
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 1: is just by ruining people's careers, because what happens in

439
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: your face with someone who doesn't have a career. So

440
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 1: I think we need to figure out a better way.

441
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: Like you're saying justice wise, but in this case, like

442
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: what justice does you want? I I that's what The

443
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: part that gets me about the story is like she's

444
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: not really looking for justice, and it's hard because she's

445
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 1: not the one writing it. So very possible the writer

446
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: has her own agenda, um, But to me, it reads

447
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 1: like a story where the writer wanted to get involved

448
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: and maybe take advantage of a time when she knew

449
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: she could get used on this story, and it didn't

450
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 1: feel like it was necessarily helping the woman in the story.

451
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like there's any call to action, um,

452
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: not even really a call for men to be better.

453
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: It just feels like a like a juicy, gossipy story, honestly.

454
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 1: And the part that rang the most like off to

455
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: me was how she describes as ease as like gross

456
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 1: when he's just kissing her, not even like the sex stuff,

457
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: And that to me reasons like I don't want to

458
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 1: be like because I don't know her and this is secondhand,

459
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: But it seems like if you went on a date

460
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: with him, like why would you describe him as a

461
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 1: person as gross before any of this stuff happened. It

462
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 1: really feels like maybe she wanted a story I want

463
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 1: to go on the stay and then didn't want to

464
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: go that far. He didn't act correctly either, so that

465
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 1: made it harder for her to just get out of

466
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: the situation. So I don't think he was right, But

467
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: I don't think she was a full on victim here

468
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 1: because some of those adjectives just don't match up to me. Yeah,

469
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 1: I mean, she says it took her a while to

470
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 1: you know, uh, come to terms with this as sexual assault,

471
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: and I don't think it's at all clear to a

472
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: lot of people that it does necessarily qualify as that.

473
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: I think people are having an important conversation about consent,

474
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 1: or at least I think that should be the main conversation.

475
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: The main takeaway is, you know, this is not how

476
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 1: to behave in a sexual you know context. I have

477
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: heard a lot of you know, men respond by being like, well,

478
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 1: as he's got railroaded, this is like not fair, and

479
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: like that's sort of been their reaction. I do think

480
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 1: there's an important conversation to have about consent and just

481
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: the messages people get around consent. Uh. One of the

482
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: stars of The Good Place, jimil jamal Uh, talked about how,

483
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: you know, his behavior or at least some of the

484
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 1: behavior described in the story, seemed very like porny, and

485
00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: that like porn sends men some really uh incorrect messages

486
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: about you know, how a sexual encounter should happen, and

487
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: you don't even really have to go to porn uh.

488
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: You know the Greece the one they're talking about, like

489
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: did she put up a fight or you know, the

490
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: whole Han Solo Princess Leia relationship and star Wars starts

491
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: with him like pushing her up against a wall and

492
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: being like you like bad boys and her being like

493
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: leave me alone, and you know, him basically forcing her

494
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 1: to you know, kiss him, and then it's like, ah,

495
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: that's what she wanted after all. Um. I do think

496
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: that that's something that men need to talk about more

497
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: with each other and with women, and so like, I

498
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: think there's a good conversation being had here um there,

499
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: and it's an important conversation uh to be had here.

500
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: I don't think people would be having it if she

501
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: hadn't publicly named who the man and was. You know,

502
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 1: I don't think this article would have started that many conversations, right. Um.

503
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: At the same time, it does seem like I can

504
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: see how people would think it's unfair to him that

505
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 1: it this is now something that he's going to be

506
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: marked with. I would say that I I would agree

507
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: with that sentiment if this is the worst thing that

508
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: he's ever done and he's you know, completely innocent in

509
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: all other contexts. Uh. I guess time will tell if

510
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: if that's the case. Um, But yeah, I don't know.

511
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: I I do get how how people would see this

512
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: as being sort of uh, somebody getting railroaded in their career,

513
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: being sort of put done away with in a in

514
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: a situation where they don't necessarily deserve that. Um. I mean,

515
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: I don't feel bad for him, but I I think

516
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: that it's Um, A lot of people aren't examining the

517
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: other side of consent, which is also it's never on

518
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: the woman, you know, because I think if you're in

519
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: a situation where the guy is totally respectful, there would

520
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: never ever be a question if there's any doubt they're

521
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 1: just back off, even to the point where he's over conversating,

522
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 1: the woman's like, oh my god, I'm frustrated, like blah

523
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 1: blah blah. That could happen, and that's better than the opposite.

524
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: But I do think like women also can um be

525
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: better about saying what they want, not that it's ever

526
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: their full responsibility, because even if they don't say what

527
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: they want, you know, the guys being respectful, it will

528
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: never get to that point. But just like in light

529
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: of the climate right now, I don't think it's that

530
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: like in this case, he was an asshole, but he

531
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: did every time she said no, stop and every time

532
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: she said no, he backed off and even put on

533
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: his clothes again. Did he start back up again, Yes,

534
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: So I think that was him being an asshole almost immediate.

535
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: But he gave her opportunities to leave. And I think

536
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: he did that because he didn't want to put her

537
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: in that, you know, really extreme situation. Did he know

538
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: he was pushing it? For sure? I'm sure he knows

539
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 1: he's famous, and I'm sure he's done that before two

540
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: other women and knows they usually are cool with it

541
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: in the end, right or whether they are or not,

542
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: But that's how he feels. So I think, you know,

543
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: he has been an asshole there, but I don't think

544
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: he was not giving her way up, which is like

545
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what I mean, like, I don't know.

546
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: It's a discussion, but I think it definitely um is

547
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: a different type of consent because it's sort of like

548
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: he was trying to give her a way to express

549
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: how she felt and she never did. And maybe some

550
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: of that's ingrained as a young woman not wanting to

551
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: feel like a bit and not wanting to, you know,

552
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: have someone not like you. So some of that I

553
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: think we can change earlier on, right. So I think

554
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: that's another important conversation, right because men have to also

555
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: look at it like this. I'm sure there are times

556
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: like you know, like you said, and even like with

557
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: a lot of conversation I had with women this weekend

558
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: talking about it, they've been like, well, I don't want

559
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: to just be like no, stop, shut the funk up,

560
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: this is done or whatever, because they they may like

561
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: the person, they just don't want to move that fast

562
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: and they don't want to come off, like you said,

563
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: like as a bitch or whatever. And I think that's

564
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: because men have probably created an environment for them that

565
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: if they if they shy away from advances or say no,

566
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: they're like, what the fun is you? Probably, and if

567
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: that's the reaction men have, that's not good, you know

568
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: what I mean. And I think that's where people just

569
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: have to realize, Look, we're entering a new era right

570
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: where a lot of the things that were like you know, uh,

571
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: seemed acceptable or whatever or not. We're trying to evolve.

572
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: We're trying to say, like, hey, if a woman asks

573
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: you respectfully to say I'm not comfortable moving at this speed,

574
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: then you, as a man, as a modern evolved humans,

575
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: should be like, I respect that, that's cool. Let's just

576
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: we go as fast as everybody can agree to. But

577
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: I think that's something too that men have to begin

578
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: respecting is sort of not seeing as like, you know,

579
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: being able to pick up if they say no, not

580
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: like well know, right now, let me let me see

581
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: what happens in twenty minutes, just being able to be like,

582
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: all right, it's done, because the the opposite effect is

583
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: if you keep pushing, then you're going to you're going

584
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: to make this woman uncomfortable and that that person will

585
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: probably not want to date you. Subsequently, you have to

586
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: there's just there's just there's a I don't know. I

587
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: guess part of it is understanding that this is that

588
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: we have to we have to take people's words seriously

589
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: to like, if someone's asked saying no, just be like

590
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: then that's in like you know, put your raging bone

591
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: or away, try and act like a fucking human. But

592
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: I guess, but yeah, like, but but I'm saying, like

593
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: the porn aspect has like the putting the fingers in

594
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: the mouth and like where you want me to fuck you?

595
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: Like that kind of stuff. Well like reeked of the

596
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: guy who watches a lot of poorn and it's like, oh,

597
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: I'm just learned about sex from Yeah, learned exactly like

598
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: your first in your first interactions are learning how to

599
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: be intimate women. Your examples are just hardcore pornography, and

600
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: that can taint you. And as a famous person, I

601
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: can imagine that she's not used to people sort of

602
00:31:55,560 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 1: disabusing him of that notion, you know, And when she did,

603
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: he was he was surprised. But yeah, I don't know. Um.

604
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: His apology also is something that got brought up a lot,

605
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: uh when in conversations you were having over the weekend,

606
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: and I mean I think just Dan Harmon gave a

607
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: really detailed apology last week that you know, I think

608
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: a lot of people in the me too movement kind

609
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: of looked at more like that's how you standardize, that's

610
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: how you should apologize for uh, something that is, you know,

611
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: not super clear cut um and uh. I would just say,

612
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: like with the AZZ thing like that, that seems like,

613
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: you know, we should obviously give him a chance to

614
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: do that, but it is a like you should read

615
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: both statements. And I think that Dan Harmon thing was

616
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: a little more clear cut though, And part of it

617
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: too is like we can't force an apology because of

618
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: the true apology like which I think Megan Gan was

619
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: the writer and she made a statement on it, and

620
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: the reason she accepted his apology wasn't because he apologized,

621
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: was because she felt he actually did learn the lesson

622
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: and she felt predicated. So I think when we try

623
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: to get these men to apologize early, they just try

624
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: to say the right thing so that they can work again,

625
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: but they're not actually learning and they're not actually sorry.

626
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: And I don't think of these is in a place

627
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: where he's sorry. So if he says something now, I

628
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't buy it. But Dan's statement about working through his

629
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: issues and actually understanding what they were and how it

630
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: was a different time of his life doesn't make it okay.

631
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: But you can tell he actually understood how he hurt

632
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: people and did work through that. Because people aren't just

633
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: seeking apologies, right you want to do You want to

634
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: demonstrate that you have grown and you will not repeat

635
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: the behavior because you're demonstrating the self awareness to know,

636
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: this is what I did was shitty because I know

637
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: now because of these things. When you just say I'm

638
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: really sorry, that's just like when you're just trying to

639
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: get you when your your mom does something like oh

640
00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: you better say sorry, and you just say sorry because

641
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: you want to move on with you, like lam sorry.

642
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: But these these for these kinds of instances, you have

643
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: to show some kind of growth or self awareness for

644
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: people that yeah, like you say, to demonstrate that, okay,

645
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: this person understands. It's not just boilerplate apology. It's that

646
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: there was an awareness coming from what they do. It's

647
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: got a text from an X. I was just like,

648
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry for everything, and I was like, oh, for

649
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: what can you elaborate? And then he was like, oh,

650
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: just for everything. I guess if you're not ready to

651
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: forgive me, then we can have a conversation later. And

652
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know, it could have been

653
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: at any number of specific things you did, but it

654
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: just read as like someone who didn't want to feel

655
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: like I was still mad and just wanted to be

656
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: like we're cool, right, Yeah, And so I think that's yeah,

657
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't I'm not looking for those

658
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: types of apologies like James Franco. I don't know if

659
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: you saw his interview with Gosh which late night, Yeah,

660
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: it was maybe Seth Myers where he was confronted about it,

661
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: and he was confronted. I think I'm both. I'm Colbert

662
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: was the first one then, and he's he had a

663
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: really terrible reaction because he said all the right things,

664
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: but then you can poke so many holes in it,

665
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: Like he was like, I don't know why these women

666
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: would say that, and you know, I respect them. It's like, well,

667
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: if that was true, why didn't you, you know, public

668
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: respond or let's call them up. Like he's afraid to

669
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: actually talk about it because he is guilty, right, Yeah,

670
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: that that seems to be the differences. Dan Harmon acknowledge

671
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: what he did, acknowledge what he did was wrong, like

672
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: saw it from the other people's perspective, Whereas I feel

673
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: like the disease and James Franco sort of statements are

674
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: then reaffirming what it looked like from their point of

675
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: view and then just like giving a blanket. But I

676
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: support the movement, and it's like that, I feel like

677
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: that doesn't really reflect any any improvement or any actual

678
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: grappling with what is happening right This is I think

679
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: it's just a very important moment for this whole like

680
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: sea change that's occurring, right because now we're having the

681
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: more nuanced discussions before these people off top or like

682
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: just unequivocally just terrible people like you just knew, like

683
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: oh that's a rapist, that that's someone this is if

684
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: we're just going to take it, you know, on the

685
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: on the facts that we know, without considering what other

686
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: history there might be, and it's just like this guy

687
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: was an example of how to act like a shitty

688
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: guy on a date. Then do they get do they

689
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: deserve to be lumped in with this? Probably not um

690
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: But again I think the moment too is to we

691
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: want a cultural shift in the end, right, like all

692
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: these any movement about like changes, about changing culture and

693
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: changing the like, you know, the way justice is administered

694
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: and things like that. And I guess I wonder is

695
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,959
Speaker 1: that the next step because the shitty men and media list,

696
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 1: you know, she sort of touched on like why there's

697
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: a need for this and things like that, but eventually,

698
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: like the discussion has to be on like our own

699
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,720
Speaker 1: judicial system too, right, and how to to like mediate

700
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: things like this that isn't just done sort of through

701
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: social media. There's a a little resistance, I think, to

702
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 1: this particular story because, um, I think a lot of women,

703
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: almost everybody I know, I'm sure has had an experience

704
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: like this, and a lot of us, uh, I don't

705
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: want to look at it as a serious thing because

706
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: like you kind of separate it from the more serious things.

707
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: And then if all of a sudden, something like this

708
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 1: is something we're supposed to be really really upset about,

709
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: then I have to go back through my entire life

710
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: and be like, well, have I ever had a good

711
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 1: experience like and And so I think a lot of

712
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 1: women are resistant to labeling this or putting this in

713
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: the me too movement because they don't want to feel that.

714
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: They don't want to go back and like rewrite their

715
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: past essentially, you know, and some of them may be

716
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: in relationships with men who act this way. I don't

717
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: think men should act this way, but you know, it

718
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: definitely shifts your entire life if you've grown up knowing something. Yeah, well,

719
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: I think you know. We're trying to we're trying to

720
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: evolve right people. And the weirdest thing to me is

721
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: that is he really felt like he knew what he

722
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to do. So maybe that's like that is

723
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: the most annoying part on him, Like he kind of

724
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: made sure not to cross the line and say all

725
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: the right things. Yeah, but he was walking a tight rope.

726
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: He's like taking advantage of the system. But it's like, Okay,

727
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: if you hire a babysitter and you know you want

728
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: someone who doesn't murder your kids, but what if your

729
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: babysitters like, I'm not a murder but just checking? Is

730
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: it cool if I light the kids on fire and

731
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: you're like no, and why would you say that? And

732
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: they're like I knew that. I just want to check.

733
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 1: Would you hire that person? You probably prefer a person's like,

734
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: I'm just a good babysitter. I don't have to ask you. Yeah,

735
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,439
Speaker 1: so you know, I don't know, Like there's definitely people

736
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: who are dancing along the lines and I'd rather we

737
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 1: all just like move into safe territory. And then he's

738
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: like dousing your kids and lighter fluid and has the

739
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: letter and he's like, no, is it not good? You

740
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 1: said no? Right, Yeah I knew that though, So I'm

741
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: not a murder but yeah, it's Yeah, this is why

742
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 1: I think it's been. This is one of the toughest

743
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: discussions we've had to have to around it because it

744
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: is it's it's so nuanced and it's forcing. Like the

745
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: next step of discussion is like what where do we

746
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: go from here? How how are we going to change it?

747
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: So we're in a in a world where hr and

748
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: like the police don't fail women either. Yeah, yeah, that's

749
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: I think that's a bigger conversation that we should probably

750
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: have soon about like what what is wrong with that

751
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: systems for adjudicating this? Uh not like we as a culture,

752
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: but we should talk about that. On the podcast, we've

753
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: kind of talked around it and been like and we

754
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: need to do this this way because the legal system

755
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: doesn't work and HR doesn't work, and we've kind of

756
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: mentioned it in passing on other episodes, but we should

757
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: also be the way it works now that the most

758
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: women are inclined to believe that they going to the

759
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: police isn't a good thing, or trying to go to

760
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: the court is not will not get the outcome that

761
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: is needed, and I think that's that's troublesome too. We'll

762
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: just make penis is like those credit cards with chips

763
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: in them, so that they can just never figure it

764
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: out and they can't like feel like enter pin to

765
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: like have sex and or like a sorcerer. So you

766
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: could like summon a penis. You're like, like, that's how

767
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: you don't know it? Wait? Who can never figure it out?

768
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: The men? I don't know? Make a password protected? I wanna,

769
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: I wanna examine this idea. What encrypt your penises? You guys? Love? Yeah? Yeah,

770
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: men love bitcorn. Put it on the black right to

771
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: use it sexually, you need to put in the code

772
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: from the the other person involved in the scenario to

773
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: be like, yes, I'm unlocking the penis for use. Otherwise,

774
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: like Scott to stay in the case, everyone has to

775
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: be accountable for penis, sort of like the guns with

776
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: combination locks, right, exactly. That's a great idea. See, you

777
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: guys were changing the world, all right. Uh. And meanwhile

778
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: the president had an affair with a porn star, tried

779
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: to have a threesome with another porn star, uh the

780
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: year after he got married and while his wife was pregnant. Uh.

781
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 1: And nobody gives a ship because they're like, oh, yeah,

782
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: well we kind of but he's racist right now, we

783
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: already we put the sexual thing to bed or just

784
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: sex deviant to bed because now we're on But now

785
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: we're seeing that everyone. So many people are like that,

786
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: so it's like maybe they do relate him, right, Yeah.

787
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: If this was a Democrat, I mean we wouldn't Like

788
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,439
Speaker 1: this would be the only thing in the news both

789
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: on Fox News and also like the New York Times

790
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: will be covering it, CNN will be covering it. Would

791
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: be top front page news. Uh if if a democratic

792
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: president had any sort of situation like this. But we

793
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: can't get lower, right, I mean the lower like we've

794
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: already done racism and sexual assault. I guess murder is

795
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 1: the next one where they will have to like laugh

796
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: off murder, like he didn't kill that guy. That guy

797
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: got in front of a bullet that he shot at him.

798
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,479
Speaker 1: Like I it's just interesting to see all the logic

799
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 1: and even like Sarah Huckeby Sanders Day trying to justify

800
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: the racist ship where she was like, well, if he

801
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: was racist, how can we had a TV show on

802
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: NBC and how can these people ask him for money?

803
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: It's like, could it be that? Could that be? I

804
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,959
Speaker 1: don't know. Uh, all right, we're gonna take a quick break.

805
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: We'll be right back and we're back. Um. So, other

806
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: than the President's affair with uh Stormy Daniels, is that

807
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: Stormy Daniels? What a name? That's not even a good

808
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: porn no name. Allana Evans is another porn star who

809
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: Donald Trump and Stormy Daniels called up and we're like, hey,

810
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: come hang out with us in our hotel room at

811
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: the Trump American Century Celebrity Golf Championship, and like Tahoe,

812
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 1: but it beyond that we have wasn't she wasn't Stormy

813
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: Daniels and Alana Davis. They were there because they were

814
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: doing promotional ship for a company. I don't know, That's

815
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: what I read in this other thing. So his like

816
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: celebrity golf tournament had like Wicked Entertainment had a booth there,

817
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: which is why they were even there. So those are

818
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: kind of people who are setting up shop at your

819
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: celebrity golf tournament already. That's that's kind of weird anyway,

820
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: but I leave that. I'll leave that there because like

821
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: in the photo of them from from apparently that weekend,

822
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: you can see like a Wicked Pictures like step and

823
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: repeat behind him. Is that the name of the point,

824
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: like the porn company? So clearly a porn company was

825
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: invited to participate in this or like some kind of

826
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: festivities around it, right anyway, that's something to think about. Um, yeah,

827
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,720
Speaker 1: I know that there's also always like porn conventions happening

828
00:43:53,960 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: alongside more like quote legitimate events. Yeah that that used

829
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: to be Uh what's the Yes, they used to have

830
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: the like cs used to happen at the exact same

831
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: weekend in Vegas as like the main porn thing because

832
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: the overlap of Internet users, right, because porn basically drove

833
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: uvation and technology. So uh, they like had a sort

834
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: of informal agreement that they would have their conventions like

835
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: Blue Ray beat h D DVD because of porn, right, yes,

836
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: because I remember who are like h D DVD and

837
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: then they're like Blue Ray and then between porn and

838
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 1: PlayStation they picked a side and then like Blue Ray

839
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: became King. Yeah, and the rest is history. Um, but

840
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 1: we wanted to talk about this new edit of Star

841
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: Wars Last Jedi, the defeminized fan edit a k. The

842
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: chauvinist cut, which is the actual and how the guy

843
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: titled it um and he basically hut all the strong

844
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 1: female characters out of the Last Jedi. And in fact

845
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 1: he also cut down like you can't cut Ray completely

846
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: out of it since she's like the protagonist, but he

847
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: like cut scenes where she was shown having like really

848
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: impressive abilities to make her seem less impressive, which just

849
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: seems like so weird. Uh. There's also racism he quote

850
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Speaker 1: deleted quote China girl from the bombing scene at the

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Speaker 1: character that's a real heroic death. He like sacrifices himself

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Speaker 1: to win the day. What's crazy is the guy even

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Speaker 1: admits that this is unwatchable just so you know, like

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Speaker 1: he knows how bad it is. It's like, why did

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Speaker 1: when it's a fifty two minute film cut down to

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Speaker 1: to make fun of like men complaining or is he

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Speaker 1: doing it because he hates the woman in it? I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty sure this is a guy who does not He's

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Speaker 1: like straight up men's rights activists. He's like, this is

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Speaker 1: even sure what his goal is here. It's like the

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Speaker 1: real world isn't great enough for men. The fantasies I

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Speaker 1: perfect satire or reality? Because like the two are really

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Speaker 1: hard to tell apart because he also does it like

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Speaker 1: from a bootleg like copy where the dude brought the

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Speaker 1: cam corder into the theater. Yeah, so that's already unwatchable. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and our writer JM pointed out that the very first

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Speaker 1: Star Wars opens with a strong female character standing up

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Speaker 1: to the villain. Right, So if you were to cut

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Speaker 1: like strong women out of the original Star Wars, it

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Speaker 1: would have been the story of you know, Luke Skywalker. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but the internet back then, so I could my chest

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Speaker 1: out and be like women. Yeah, exactly, it was a

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Speaker 1: different time. You always talked about how insulted you were

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Speaker 1: by lay As standing up knowing her place in that

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Speaker 1: first movie. Um. Yeah, but the entire story is put

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Speaker 1: into motion by Prince's last standing up to the Empire.

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Speaker 1: The context isn't or history isn't important to these people, right,

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Speaker 1: Um it is. I So I didn't read the New

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Speaker 1: apparently so. Kathleen Kennedy founded the Story Group, the group

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Speaker 1: that is in charge of like developing all the Star

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Speaker 1: Wars stories. Yeah, like basically the entire universe. When she

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Speaker 1: took she succeeded George Lucas as president in two thousand

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Speaker 1: twelve of Lucasfilm and she put Curie Hart, a former

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Speaker 1: film and TV writer, in charge of the unit. And

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Speaker 1: her first move was to make the Story Group entirely female,

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Speaker 1: starting with Rain Roberts and carry back. So I don't

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Speaker 1: know that's I. I that is cool that there is

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised that hasn't gotten like more Star Wars. Idiot

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Speaker 1: men's rights people aren't like up in arms about that.

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Speaker 1: They're like focused on like this one. Do they know that?

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Speaker 1: Do they know that? Like I don't think they read

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Speaker 1: they have a fucking meltdown freend. Yeah. Uh, all right,

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Speaker 1: that is all the time we have, Teresa. It's been

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Speaker 1: can people follow you? You can follow me on Twitter

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Speaker 1: We have Facebook fan page that is the Daily Zegeist,

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