1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Best of the Herd podcast. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: Sports Radio in noon to three Eastern nine am to 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: noone Pacific. Find your local station for The Herd at 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: or FSR. 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowver 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 3: Welcome back. 11 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 4: It's Wednesday in Los Angeles. It's the Herd. Wherever you are, 12 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 4: however you may be listening. I think I got that right. 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. 14 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 3: I've never tried that. It just came to me. 15 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 4: It's me Jason McIntyre filling in for Colin Cowherd. He 16 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 4: is breathlessly texting me updates about Taylor Swift and Travis Kelcey, 17 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 4: and I'm relaying them to Rachel Nichols, who. 18 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: I'm joined by again today. Rachel, No, Colin's not actually texting, said, 19 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 3: I'm not sure this is quick. 20 00:00:59,040 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 5: This is his. 21 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 4: Last hurrah and now maybe he's on the golf course today. 22 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 4: I don't but uh, Rachel and I listen. We've been 23 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 4: hit for breaking news every day, so keep it locked. 24 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 4: Who knows what's coming down? Now, we did get a 25 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 4: little tease about some not great news, which we'll get 26 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 4: you shortly. Uh, Kansas City Chiefs fans tuned in. But 27 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 4: I'm gonna start the show, obviously with the big news 28 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 4: in sports, Travis Kelce Taylor Swift engaged. Now, I know 29 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 4: sports fans are already sick of it, their wives, their girlfriends, 30 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 4: their side pieces and whatever talking about. 31 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 3: Wait a minute, what kind of wedding dress is Taylor Swift? 32 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 6: There were but do. 33 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 4: They get a DJ or do they do a band? 34 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 3: Do they do an international wedding? 35 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 4: And there's all this updates on all the celebrity websites 36 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 4: and also sports websites talking about this union, and folks, 37 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 4: I'm gonna take it in a different direction because we 38 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 4: do sports here on the show, and I'm gonna say, 39 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 4: how does this impact the act such a football product 40 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 4: of the Kansas City Chiefs. And it keeps coming back 41 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 4: to one thing that's fairly obvious that this has to 42 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 4: be the last dance for the triumvirate of Andy Reid, 43 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce. Right, I mean, you guys, 44 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 4: remember a few years ago Baker Mayfield led the NFL 45 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 4: in commercials and on the field the product. 46 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 3: Was not great. Well, what are we doing with Travis Kelce? 47 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 4: I mean, he's talked about retirement, He's among the league 48 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 4: leaders in commercials, He's a full blown celebrity. Now, okay, 49 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 4: he's engaged to the most famous woman on the planet 50 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 4: and now they're going to be planning a wedding. By 51 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 4: the way, side note, Travis Kelce's dad gave a random 52 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 4: interview to a Cleveland TV station. I don't know, there's 53 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 4: some kind of connection there, and he said, oh yeah, 54 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 4: basically they got engaged two weeks ago, which then makes 55 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 4: you wonder about that whole podcast appearance. 56 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 3: I don't know. 57 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 4: Listen, there's just so much happening here, but guess what's 58 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 4: not happening? 59 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 6: Football? 60 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 4: And I mentioned the last dance because Jordan Pippot and 61 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 4: Phil Jackson they knew that that was it. 62 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: It's over. 63 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 4: On some level, guys, Patrick Mahomes has to know this 64 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 4: is it. I mean, Travis Kelce turns thirty six in October. 65 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 4: He's going into the final year of his contract. 66 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 3: He's openly talked about retirement. 67 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 4: I mean, he's laying the groundwork for a post football career. 68 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 4: I mean he's podcasting, he's in Happy Go More too. 69 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 4: By the way, just a quick review, I didn't think 70 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 4: the movie was great. It was okay, but I did 71 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 4: think Travis Kelcey was kind of good. I thought Bad 72 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 4: Bunny was good. I didn't even know it was Bad Bunny. 73 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 4: But like Travis kelce wasn't terrible. And you know, he's 74 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 4: doing a lot of commercials. I have a feeling he's 75 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 4: gonna have a pretty lucrative post football career. But that's 76 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 4: post football. We still have a season to go. And again, 77 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 4: I don't think they're a super Bowl team. I had 78 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 4: them third in my Super Bowl tier yesterday. Shocker Chiefs 79 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 4: fans did not like that. But when you kind of 80 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 4: drill down and start thinking, like, man, maybe this is coming. 81 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 3: To an end every couple of years. 82 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 4: Andy Reid, who by the way, is sixty seven years old, 83 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 4: he's talking about retirement. So you know, if Kelsey and 84 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 4: Reid walked away after this, it would not shock me. 85 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 4: I think the dynasty is over. They had their shot 86 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 4: in the Super Bowl. They got smashed. 87 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: Folks. 88 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 4: The Rashi Rice news that's emerging right now, you know, 89 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 4: Adam Schefter reporting looks like it's gonna be the first 90 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 4: six games of the season. That's putting even more pressure 91 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 4: on Travis Kelce, who oh, by the way, is coming 92 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 4: off a career low in receiving yards touchdowns. Like things 93 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 4: are not looking great, especially if for she Rice is 94 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 4: cooked for the first six games. So I'm to say, 95 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,799 Speaker 4: I know, it's just saying, you know, don't cry because 96 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 4: it's over, Smile because it happened. 97 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 3: That's how I'm feeling about this Chief's run. 98 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 4: As you see Mahomes running around celebrating they had a 99 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 4: great run, it's over. And Travis Kelce, you know he 100 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 4: could have a great Swan song. I'm sure he's gonna 101 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 4: play better here. Listen, don't. 102 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 3: Run a mile and you're older, you know you want 103 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 3: to come out of the gate hot. 104 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,679 Speaker 4: Now I'm competing of whoa, You're running out of gas quickly. 105 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 4: Kelsey's gonna have to step up here early in the season. 106 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 4: If for she Rice is indeed suspended for six. 107 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: Games, I don't think this. 108 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 4: Is gonna go as great as everybody's predicting. I know 109 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 4: they have my Homes and they have Reid and they 110 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 4: have Kelsey, but for how much longer this is probably it. 111 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 4: Now I'm gonna shift my focus to a team I 112 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 4: actually love, and that's the San Francisco forty nine Ers, 113 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 4: another team that I had yesterday that was mildly controversial 114 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 4: in my Super Bowl tiers. 115 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:35,239 Speaker 3: I had them in the first tier. 116 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 4: That was met with a lot of scorn and derision 117 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 4: on the internet, but that's what people do online. And 118 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 4: the focus here is going to be a certain seventh 119 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 4: round quarterback by the name of Rock Perdy. 120 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 3: So our friend Albert. 121 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 4: Brier was at forty nine Ers camp recently and he 122 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 4: spoke to Shanahan, Salah, Lynch and Purdy and brock Perdy 123 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 4: had a really interesting quote that jumped out and all 124 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 4: the aggregators weren wild. 125 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 3: Here's the quote from brock Perdy. 126 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 4: I felt this pressure last season on myself to be 127 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 4: a superman type guy, go out and make plays off schedule. 128 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 4: And I did look, and yes, his rushing numbers were 129 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 4: up last season. A lot of that was running for 130 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 4: his life, because when your star running backs out and 131 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 4: your receiving rooms depleted, you know you got to try 132 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 4: to make plays. Now, I do need some context here 133 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 4: because brock perty last year was playing for a contract 134 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 4: he was making like eight hundred thousand dollars on that 135 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 4: seventh round, dead last pick in the draft rookie deal, 136 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 4: and he was looking to get elevated to be a 137 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 4: forty or fifty million dollar a year guy. Now, more 138 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 4: context needed. So this Niners team last year, we should 139 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 4: have seen the drop off coming. Okay, they had a 140 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 4: five year run where they went to two Super Bowls 141 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 4: and two conference championships. Perdy got hurt against the Eagles 142 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 4: the other one they lost, and the one year Jimmy 143 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 4: Garoppolo got injured and they missed the playoffs. But I 144 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 4: totaled it twelve playoff games in a five year span. 145 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 4: So it's no surprise that half the defense was hurt 146 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 4: last year and you see guys dropping like flies. Twelve 147 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 4: playoff games is almost another entire season. Remember the Golden 148 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 4: State Warriors kept going to the finals and then really 149 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 4: broke down rapidly. 150 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 3: That was the Niners last year. But I've got a couple. 151 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 4: Things about Brock Purdy that I'm gonna hit you with 152 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 4: now that are going to be a surprise. So the 153 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 4: narrative was that you know, he wasn't good last year 154 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 4: and he was trying to be superman. He was playing 155 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 4: for a contract, and hey, as Colin likes to say, 156 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 4: the weather was bad and. 157 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 3: Brock Purty crumbled. 158 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 4: Well, you know, I do not like the blind taste 159 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 4: tests when it comes to quarterbacks. 160 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 3: I feel like it's cheap and people kind of cherry pickstats. 161 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 4: But I this morning just looking at stats for brock 162 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 4: Purty last year to go with these quotes, and then 163 00:07:58,440 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 4: I looked at the leaderboard. 164 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, brock Purdy. 165 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 4: Was not that bad last year. So, folks, here is 166 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 4: the first of two. I'm gonna compare brock Purdy to 167 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 4: another quarterback in the NFL last year. So you see 168 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 4: his passing yards perty plus about one hundred touchdown interceptions, party, 169 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 4: more touchdowns, more interceptions. 170 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 3: Yards per attempt. 171 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 4: He was not a checkdown artist eight point five, much 172 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 4: better than this other quarterback and better in passer rating. 173 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 4: Let's see who the other quarterback is. Oh, oh, Matthew Stafford, 174 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,599 Speaker 4: the much beloved Matthew Stafford. I like Stafford. I'm a 175 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 4: Stafford guy. But Stafford wasn't great last year. So Stafford 176 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 4: wasn't great. How was brock Purty awful? Okay, that's number one. 177 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 4: Now the staff came up with a second one. I 178 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 4: don't know who this guy is. Was I knew the 179 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 4: other one was Stafford. So here are the numbers. Stafford again, 180 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 4: more passing yards, more touchdowns, even interceptions, way better in 181 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 4: yards per attempt, and better in passer rating. Let's see 182 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 4: who the quarterback was compared to brock Purty last year. 183 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 6: CJ. Stroud. 184 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 4: Oh wait a minute, brock Purty in his down year 185 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 4: was better than Stroud statistically and better than Stafford. 186 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: What so brock Purty was it bad? Okay? 187 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 4: Their tat is telling me right now we have one 188 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 4: more blind resume. Again, this wasn't run by me, so 189 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 4: I have no idea who this guy is. Touchdowns even, 190 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 4: yards per attempt edge to Purty, completion percentage dead even. 191 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 4: All right, let's see who this quarterback is, Rock Purty 192 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 4: versus Oh my, no, is that Justin Herbert? 193 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 3: So again we can. 194 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 4: Bag on brock Purty all we want the numbers. Facts 195 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 4: say he was better than Justin Herbert, Matt Stafford, and 196 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 4: c J. 197 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 3: Stroud last year. That's a bit of a boom. 198 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 4: My kid likes to do truth bomb, you know, with 199 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 4: the head exploding emoji. That's what I'm seeing there for 200 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 4: brock Purty. So we have Greg Cosell. Last week I 201 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 4: was on vacation, Cowhard brought in Greg Coselt to take 202 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 4: shots at pretty I don't know if he took shots. 203 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 7: Here we go in terms of being what we call 204 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 7: a post snap operator. In other words, when he takes 205 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 7: the snap, he has such an intuitive feel for what 206 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 7: he sees, and therefore he's a really really good timing 207 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 7: and anticipation thrower. It's just innate to him. He sees 208 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 7: it really quickly. So Purdy is a high level post 209 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 7: snap operator. He's a really really good player. Purdy is 210 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 7: a really good quarterback. He's just not a dynamic athlete 211 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 7: who is necessarily going to make those kind of special 212 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 7: plays on his own. But as a pocket quarterback, he's 213 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 7: pretty high level. 214 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 4: Cosell dropping a little truth bomb there on my guy, 215 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 4: brock Purty. So I do want to say, I try 216 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 4: to help you guys out, okay, try to help you 217 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 4: be a little smarter on the gambling front, the fantasy 218 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 4: the takes and sometimes you don't want it or you 219 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 4: want to. 220 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 3: Just argue with me, folks. Just a few facts here. 221 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 4: The forty nine ers this season are favored in fifteen 222 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 4: of seventeen games. Fifteen Er sent They're gonna be awesome, 223 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 4: and the only two times are dogs. They're short road 224 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 4: dogs against I think it's the Rams and Bucks back 225 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 4: to back. 226 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 3: Okay, so they're gonna be good. 227 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 4: I don't care that you think, oh, the defense is washed, 228 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 4: all these new guys, they're gonna be really good. 229 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, there it is. 230 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 4: They're at the Rams and Bucks back to back in 231 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 4: weeks five and six. They are slight dogs. That schedule 232 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 4: is Cupcake City. Go find me the elite quarterbacks outside 233 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 4: of Stafford on that list and take your time, because 234 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 4: there aren't any folks. 235 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 3: The Niners are going to be really freaking good last year. Now, 236 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest. 237 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 4: If I asked you the audience, give me the best 238 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 4: offense and defensive coaching combos in the league heading into 239 00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 4: this season, and I'll give you one right out of the 240 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 4: Andy Reid and Spagnolo. 241 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 3: They can be number one. Okay, who's second best in 242 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 3: the league? 243 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 4: If you want to say Sean Payton and Vance Joseph, 244 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna fight you, Okay, I'll give you that, 245 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 4: but I'll tell you right now, Kyle Shanahan and Robert 246 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 4: Sala has to be top three, top four at worst. Okay, 247 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 4: I know you're gonna bag on Salah. He was a 248 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 4: disaster with the Jets. Actually, guys, Robert Sala in two 249 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 4: and a half seasons with the Jets, the defense first 250 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 4: in points per drive, first in EPA per play, third in. 251 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 3: Defensive success rate. 252 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 4: It wasn't Sala's fault as a defensive coordinator running the 253 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 4: Jets d It wasn't on him. Aaron Rodgers stunk and 254 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 4: he got hurt, and the Jets are a full blown 255 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 4: disaster top down every year. 256 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 3: But it wasn't Sala's fault. I'm just telling you. 257 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 4: The Niners are gonna be really good. You can get 258 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 4: on board early and do the victory lap with me 259 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 4: come November when they're looking at a number one seed, 260 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 4: or you can just continue to have your. 261 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 3: Opinion rock parties. A seventh round pick, he's garbage. 262 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 6: You know who? 263 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 4: You sound like the guy who was bagging on Tom 264 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 4: Brady early in his career. Oh, he's a game manager. 265 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 4: J Mack, he's not that good. Drew Bledsoe was the man, 266 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 4: and you kept saying that about Brady until you just 267 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 4: couldn't say it anymore, and he became the greatest quarterback 268 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 4: in NFL history. Like stop being wedded to your take 269 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 4: open your eyes rock party. Last year, better than Stafford, 270 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 4: numbers wise, better than Herbert, better than CJ. Stroud, forty 271 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 4: nine ers, favored in fifteen of seventeen games. I'm telling 272 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 4: you right now, get on board. You don't want to 273 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 4: be left behind now, Rachel. I know that's a big 274 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 4: plea to the audience. Hey, you can rock with me 275 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 4: or you can. 276 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 3: Just like argue with me. But I feel irrationally good. 277 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 3: You're laughing. 278 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 2: I'm laughing. 279 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 3: I think you're right well, first of all. 280 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 8: And I'm laughing because for people out there who don't 281 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 8: buy what you're saying, you said, oh, it's a cupcave schedule, 282 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 8: it's the easiest schedule. 283 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 3: It's thirty two. It's number thirty two. 284 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 6: It is the. 285 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 8: Easiest schedule in the NFL this season. My concern, we 286 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 8: talked about it earlier in the week, is just the injuries. 287 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 8: I mean that wide receiver room has been decimated. And 288 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 8: Christian McCaffrey is still healthy. 289 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 3: That's good. He's made it through preseason healthy. 290 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 4: Yay. 291 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 8: But you know, we've talked about it that he is 292 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 8: I don't want to say fragile, because no one who 293 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 8: plays that position is fragile, frankly, but someone who has 294 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 8: had an injury history, right, So you just kind of 295 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 8: worry if some of those tools at brock Perty's disposal 296 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 8: are going to be available, right, that's my. 297 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 3: Nice Sure we need brand and ay you back, that'll 298 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 3: be nice if you could get help. 299 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 8: It's not going to be immediate, right. So he's still 300 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 8: recovering from the knee injuries. So you know, it's one 301 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 8: of those things where health and luck as always have 302 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 8: to help these guys out. 303 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 3: A little bit. 304 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 8: But if it's even normal health at luck, which they 305 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 8: have not experienced so far in the preseason, but hopefully 306 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 8: once the season gets going, if they can just return 307 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 8: to a normal amount of injuries, then I'm with you 308 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 8: all the way. I think this will surprise some people. 309 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 8: We've talked about the NFC West. You know, I am 310 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 8: not as bullish on the Rams being you know, I 311 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 8: just Stafford. I don't know if he's gonna make it 312 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 8: through the whole season. So I think that we talked 313 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 8: at about the forty nine ers, all right. 314 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 3: I love agreement to start the show. 315 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 4: All right, coming up next, stat emerge yesterday on Rachel's Commanders. 316 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 4: That is going to surprise. 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He's really locked 348 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 4: in now. I know he knows the Falcons. Well, they 349 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 4: had a big injury this week. Not great for my 350 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 4: Falcons futures. But let's go to a team that someone 351 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 4: actually cares about, and that's the Washington Commanders. What a 352 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 4: story they were last year, right, You had the Daniel 353 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 4: Snyder having to give up on a lose his ownership. 354 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 3: You get the new group. 355 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 4: Coming in front office, new quarterback, new coach, knew everything, 356 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 4: and it clicked on a level that I mean, I 357 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 4: can't recall seeing that rapid of a turnaround. 358 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 3: Shout out to Dan Quinn, great job. 359 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 4: But a stat came out yesterday about Washington kind of 360 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 4: blew me away. The Washington Commanders now have the oldest 361 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 4: roster in the NFL. And oh, by the way, it 362 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 4: is the oldest roster in the NFL in the last 363 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 4: twenty years. 364 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 3: People actually track this stuff. I get it. 365 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 4: When you are rebooting with a new owner, new front office, 366 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 4: new coach, new rookie quarterback, you need some veterans. So 367 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 4: last year they brought in some veterans. You know, Zach 368 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 4: Ertz linebacker Bobby Wagner, who was ridiculous last year. He 369 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 4: grated out as the third best middle linebacker in the league. Okay, 370 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 4: he's like thirty four to thirty five, and that's I 371 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 4: don't mean to make be like an agist, but let's 372 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 4: be real. Once you hit thirty in the NFL, outside 373 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 4: of quarterback, you're getting old. And they brought an Austin 374 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 4: Eckler running back who's on the older side. This year 375 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 4: they bring in von Miller Laramie Tunsel like they're an 376 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 4: older team. Deebo Samuel's kind of older. So they've got 377 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 4: all these veterans. But then you start to look at 378 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 4: the history of the oldest teams in the league and 379 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 4: it's not pretty at all. 380 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 3: And you start to wonder. 381 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 4: Okay, so last year they got a little lucky eight 382 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 4: and four in one score games. It wasn't Kansas City 383 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 4: Chiefs eleven or zero, but eight and four is really 384 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 4: really good. And oh, by the way, they beat the 385 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,719 Speaker 4: Bears on a flukail Mary. They survived the Saints on 386 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 4: a two point conversion deal. Remember Jayden Daniels was incredible 387 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 4: in that game. Jaan Daniel was pretty incredible all season. Okay, 388 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 4: this stat is arguably like a top five stat from 389 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 4: last season in the entire NFL. So fourth down, If 390 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 4: you can go fifty sixty percent on fourth down, that's amazing, Right, 391 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,239 Speaker 4: you get every other fourth down you go for you 392 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 4: get that. 393 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 3: That would be incredible. 394 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 4: The Washington command, we're twenty of twenty three on fourth 395 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 4: down last season, eighty seven percent. That is unsustainable. I 396 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 4: don't know if that'll ever be matched. When you look 397 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 4: at the amount of attempts they at twenty to twenty three, 398 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 4: I would kill for that as my free throw percentage 399 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 4: of my men's basketball league. Washington did that on fourth 400 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 4: down the highest leverage down. Defensive cordators are emptying the 401 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 4: kitchen sink on the blitz. A lot of pressure twenty 402 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 4: of twenty three is ridiculous. Can Jaden Daniels do that again? 403 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 3: Probably not? 404 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 4: And then you start to wonder, like, is this old 405 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 4: roster like they got through last season. 406 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 3: What happens if. 407 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 4: There's an injury to Bobby Wagner, what happens if the 408 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 4: von Miller can't really be a factor, zach Ertz get 409 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 4: gets banged up. These guys are getting older. And you 410 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 4: start to look up it on the schedule and you're like, oh, 411 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 4: this is a very tough schedule. This is arguable top 412 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 4: five schedule in the league. 413 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 3: You get the layup against the Giants early, it. 414 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 4: Is a divisional matchup, could be tricky, right with the 415 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 4: Giants front seven, Maybe they surprise the hell out of you. 416 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 4: But I mean Packers, I think the Falcons are gonna 417 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 4: be good. You get the Chargers, I mean Minnesota Vikings 418 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 4: are gonna be good. We know the Broncos are hella good. 419 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 4: Detroit Lions, like that is a difficult schedule, and you 420 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 4: start to wonder, all right, I know they were one 421 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 4: in four against playoff teams last year, but who cares 422 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 4: jay they And by the way, that one win was 423 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 4: Week eighteen against Kenny or whatever. 424 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 3: I don't know if it was Week eight. 425 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,719 Speaker 4: Team was late in the season when Jalen Hurts got 426 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 4: hurt and Kenny Pickett had to like fill in, like, guys, 427 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 4: what are. 428 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 3: We doing here now? 429 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 4: They did beat Detroit and Tampa in the playoffs, awesome, 430 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 4: but a lot of things are lining up to make 431 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 4: it look like Washington could have could have a very 432 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 4: difficult season ahead. 433 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 434 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 2: and Neon Easter not a Empacific. 435 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 4: Back here on the Herd again, Steve Weisch, NFL reporter, 436 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 4: NFL Network. 437 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 3: He's been there since two thousand and eight. 438 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 4: Steve, thanks for joining us on this day with more 439 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 4: breaking news involving the Chiefs. This is actual on field 440 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 4: product as opposed to the Kelsey Swift engagement. But obviously 441 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 4: the reci Rice news just broke. I'm curious a your 442 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,959 Speaker 4: reaction and b you know what do you think the 443 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 4: impact will be on Kansas City's offense? 444 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, my colleague Tom Pelsero broke that. 445 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 10: And what's interesting, remember he had a date set for 446 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 10: late September right so that woul allowed him to play 447 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 10: find out his fate. All of this stuff by now 448 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 10: he's getting this out of the way. So he suspended 449 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 10: for six weeks. According to Tom, he'll be able to 450 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 10: come back in week seven and then they can get rolling. 451 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 10: So that allows the Chiefs on the field to kind 452 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 10: of set their rotation and everything from now. It allows 453 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 10: Rice not to go back and forth like we've seen 454 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 10: some players go back and forth in the past. Are 455 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 10: they going to play again? Remember with Zeke Elliott? Are 456 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 10: they not going to play? So that just clears a 457 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 10: hurdle of the unknown. So we'll see how is he Rice, 458 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 10: who's a valuable part of what they do, how he 459 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 10: figures in when he comes back mid season put again 460 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 10: for the Chiefs football wise, it just allows him, let's 461 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 10: establish this, this is out of the way. 462 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 6: Now all sides can function kind of knowing what is there. 463 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird Rice. 464 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 4: He hasn't played enough for us to know if he's great, 465 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 4: But in that one season he kind of popped. He 466 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 4: looked like he had top ten receiver potential, right with 467 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 4: the speed and the strength. 468 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, and he helps out what they like 469 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 10: to do in that offense, right, Remember he does the 470 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 10: up the seam stuff. He kind of helps Kelsey clear 471 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 10: things out in that middle of the field. Plus you 472 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 10: could tell Mahomes really likes him. 473 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 6: I mean, they've got a chemistry there. 474 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 10: I think they're both Dallas area guys, Texas guys, and 475 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 10: they train a lot in the offseason together, so that 476 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 10: chemistry helps. And so not having him, they knew it 477 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 10: was possibility. They didn't have them most of last year. 478 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 10: They worked around it. So now they'll work around it again, 479 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 10: find a way, and when he comes back, it could 480 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 10: be kind of a cherry on top type of thing. 481 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 4: Now, last year the receiver room was, you know, not great, 482 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 4: certainly bottom half of the league. Now you're looking at 483 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 4: Hollywood Brown, Xavier Worthy Juju, says Schuster. I don't does 484 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 4: this put more pressure on Travis Kelcey, who oh, by 485 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 4: the way, is thirty five and all the almost thirty six? 486 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 6: No, I mean, look, the Chiefs do what they do. 487 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 10: Last year, the issue wasn't so much the receiving core, 488 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 10: but it was the offensive line. Yeah, I mean, they 489 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 10: just didn't play well. They had issues that left tackle. 490 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 10: Then they moved Tuney out from guard to tackle. Some 491 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 10: uncertainty at that guard spot for a while. I think 492 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 10: if that part is solidified and We know they did 493 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 10: some things to try to change that offensive line, including 494 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 10: drafting someone in the first round. If that part solidified, 495 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 10: the Chiefs are going to do what they do. I mean, 496 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 10: as long as you got number fifteen, if they've got 497 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 10: a dink and dunk, they'll do that. They're going to 498 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 10: stretch the field here and there, they'll do that. So 499 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 10: I don't think it's so much on Kelsey and that 500 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 10: receiving crews on the guys up frontal at that offense 501 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 10: function the way Andy Reid wants it to function. 502 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 4: So let's go to Kelsey real quick. Obviously, you know 503 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 4: he's a celebrity now, he was in a movie, he's podcasting, 504 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 4: he's engaged to Taylor Swift. Also entering the final year 505 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 4: of his contract. He's talked about retirement in the past. 506 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 4: He's talked about all the surgeries he's had. We would 507 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 4: it safe to assume this is his last ride? And 508 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 4: I'm just curious, do you think you know Andy Reid 509 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 4: is sixty seven. There's been speculation previously whether or not 510 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 4: he hangs them up. I mean, is there a world 511 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 4: where this is really the final run for Red Mahomes 512 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 4: and Kelsey together? 513 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 6: It could be. I don't envision it. 514 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 10: I mean, knowing those those guys as much as I do. 515 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 10: I mean, maybe Travis steps away. I'll tell you this, 516 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 10: he's got his body really together. I saw him some 517 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 10: stuff this offseason. He looks different, he looks fresh. Maybe 518 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 10: now that he's engaged, you know, he's going to be 519 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 10: super fresh. 520 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 6: I don't know. Well with Andy Reid, I he seems 521 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 6: someone to me like he just I don't know what 522 00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 6: he would. 523 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 10: Do without coaching, and I just think that's kind of 524 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 10: something he hangs on to because he knows he impacts 525 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 10: lives in a lot of ways besides just on the 526 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 10: field and with his staff, and of course Patrick Mahomes 527 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 10: is going to be there. 528 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 6: So I don't envision it. 529 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 10: That's not to say it couldn't happen, But right now 530 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 10: I don't see Andy retaying. 531 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 6: You know what, this is one last rodeo. We're going out. 532 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 4: Let me pivot to Brock Purdy if you don't mind, 533 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 4: I am a brock pretty guy. I think he's undervalued significantly. 534 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 4: He had a quote to Albert Breer saying he tried 535 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 4: to do too much and be superman last year. I mean, Steve, 536 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 4: their whole team was banged up, he's playing for a contract. 537 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 4: I think he can be superman. I mean, we have 538 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 4: a couple of years worth of data on this guy. 539 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 4: He's really good, is he not. 540 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 6: I'm with you. 541 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 10: I've been a brock pretty guy ever since he came 542 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 10: in midstream as a third stringer against the Dolphins and 543 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 10: put up numbers like he'd been playing all of a sudden. 544 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 10: The third stringers don't get reps, so the fact he 545 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 10: played that way showed me he's got something to him. 546 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 10: I could see him trying to over extend himself last 547 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 10: year because there's a certain standard with the forty nine 548 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 10: ers and with you know, Trent Williams down, Deebo, Samuel down, 549 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 10: Brandon you know, not having a good year, Brandon Ayuk down. 550 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 6: A lot of defenders down. This just wasn't the same team. 551 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 10: So a lot of times guys are going to try 552 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 10: to do more than what they're not necessarily capable of doing, 553 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 10: but do more than what they should do to live 554 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 10: up to the standard that's been set. I think this 555 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 10: is a reset with some of the changes on that 556 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 10: roster on both sides of the ball, with a new 557 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 10: receiving crew and with. 558 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 6: CMC back, the opportunity is there for brock Perty to 559 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 6: do some big things. I think this is kind of 560 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 6: a refresher for the forty nine ers. 561 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 10: I don't know if they'll be dominant early, but we'll 562 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 10: see if they gain some traction and get going as 563 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 10: the season goes along. 564 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 6: But I think Perdy is the least of their worries. 565 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 6: I think he's. 566 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 10: Kind of north Pole that everybody can kind of look 567 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 10: to to guide them, to guide them through. 568 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 3: I like that. 569 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 4: I don't want to be body language expert guy when 570 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 4: it comes to Ben Johnson. But Steve, we keep seeing 571 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 4: video of him at the podium looking unhappy. Now, maybe 572 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 4: he's a serious guy, first head coaching job. 573 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 3: He wants to look like a you know, a. 574 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 4: Tough guy who was really locked in. But it doesn't seem, 575 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 4: and it's early like things are going great with him 576 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 4: In Caleb Williams. 577 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 3: Rachel had a good point earlier. 578 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 4: That like, he's not praising Caleb a ton and a 579 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 4: lot of it is criticism, and I don't know, Caleb. 580 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:22,479 Speaker 3: Is a little fragile. 581 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 4: We had this stuff from Seth Wickersham about how I 582 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 4: didn't want to go to Chicago in the first place. 583 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 3: What do you make of all this? 584 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 10: Well, I didn't see Bill Belichick ever very happy. I 585 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 10: know Andy Reid's a nice guy, but he's not the 586 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 10: most jovial. So, you know, in terms of how guys 587 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 10: appear at the press conference, I don't really know, you know, 588 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 10: having been in these situations. It's like the meeting rooms 589 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 10: and stuff. If a coach is like glazing you up 590 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 10: or are beating you down in front of the team 591 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 10: in the meeting rooms and really humiliating you in front 592 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,959 Speaker 10: of your peers, that's where things really tend to ruffle feathers. 593 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 6: Now. Some guys, you know, get bent out of shape 594 00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 6: by what said in the media. 595 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 10: But and I don't know Ben Johnson. I've been around him, 596 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 10: but he's just an intense guy. There are intense coach 597 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 10: you've been around Sean McVay. That dude never relaxes. Now 598 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 10: he is kind of captain positive, yes, but you know, 599 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 10: there's just different coaches with different styles. And I'm Ben 600 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 10: Johnson's got my benefit of the doubt until he doesn't. 601 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 10: So we'll we'll see how this works out. I do think, 602 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 10: you know, And I heard the quote that he said 603 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 10: it's going to take a minute for this entire offense 604 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 10: to get going. 605 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 6: And they got a new offensive line, a lot of 606 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 6: new pieces. It's going to take a minute. But once 607 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 6: they get it going. 608 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 10: With Ben Johnson, what he did in Detroit, defensive coordinators 609 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 10: fear some of his scheming. 610 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 6: We'll see if it translates now that he's in this 611 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 6: new role. 612 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 4: I love to ask you guys in the media. You 613 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 4: go to camps, you talk to people. I mean, we're 614 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 4: just out here blathering. Is there a team that you 615 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 4: see that's maybe undervalued with respect to what everybody else 616 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 4: is saying. I want that team to be the Atlanta Falcons, 617 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 4: a team you know, well, they got an injury on 618 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 4: the line this week, it's really bad. Is there a 619 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 4: team that you've seen that you think, hey, man, nobody's 620 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:03,479 Speaker 4: really talking about X. 621 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 3: I think they could pop. 622 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 6: It's the team that's in Atlanta's conference, and that's Tampa Bay. 623 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 10: It's a that's won the division. I don't think we 624 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 10: talk about them enough. Roster wise. They are solid pretty 625 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 10: much through and through. But when we talk about teams 626 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 10: with a culture, that's a team that's got a culture 627 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 10: we don't talk about. 628 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 6: There is a standard there now in Tampa Bay. 629 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 10: When new players come there, they understand defensively, you better 630 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 10: be physical no matter what you do offensively, you better 631 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 10: be precision on time. And we talk about how you know, 632 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 10: first Dave Canalis and Lea and Comb got the best 633 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 10: out of Baker Mayfield. Maybe Baker is the king maker, right. 634 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 10: I think Tampa Bay is a team that we better 635 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 10: start paying a lot more attention to, just because they've 636 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 10: got something institutionally now that's been in place for four 637 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 10: or five years that we've neglected. 638 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 3: I didn't think about that. 639 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 4: Maybe Baker's the guide, not all these coaches that they 640 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 4: keep cycling through. The Baker's story is fascinating, how he 641 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 4: was kind of kicked to the curb in Cleveland. It 642 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 4: was over and then it was rams and there was 643 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 4: one other team. And he's now he's like a full. 644 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 3: Blown pro bowler, right, he's legit. 645 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 10: And when you got Mike Evans and you draft a 646 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 10: BUCA who all reviews on him coming out of camp 647 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 10: had been great, you know, with God went on the 648 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 10: shelf to start the season, he's got an opportunity to 649 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 10: keep doing some things. And look, he's he's kind of 650 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,479 Speaker 10: started this thing. You see Geno Smith kind of following there, 651 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 10: can Sam Darnold following there in Seattle, where maybe it's 652 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 10: more you get the talented player in the right situation 653 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 10: and then that talent can start to shine as it 654 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 10: meshes with what they do mentally in the confidence. 655 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 4: Fact, Yeah, it's similar to brock Purty, like nobody, nobody 656 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 4: viewed him as being a guy who could put up 657 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 4: these numbers and take a team to the Super Bowl. 658 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 3: Put him in the Shanahan offense. Hey, that's fitting. 659 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 4: Say well, Lamar Jackson in Baltimore right, by the way, 660 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 4: do you who do you have coming out of the AFC? 661 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 6: Steve, I love Baltimore. I mean that's just your team. 662 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 10: And you know, spending some time at the training camp, 663 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 10: and I've probably been with the Ravens like the whole time. 664 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 10: You know, you've got the Chiefs, You've got the Bills, 665 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 10: But the Ravens are just so complete, and I think 666 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 10: the fact that their defense has its footing. Remember last 667 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 10: year they started with a lot of question marks. The 668 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 10: offensive line started the question marks. Those are solid right now, 669 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 10: so I think they could continue to rock and roll 670 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 10: with Lamar doing what you think about that forty one touchdowns, 671 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 10: four picks, and he wasn't the MVP. 672 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 4: Amazing Steve Weiss NFL Network. Great stuff, Steve, keep up 673 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 4: the good work. 674 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 3: You love your work. 675 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 6: Appreciate you, guys,