1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to betting pros. It's time to place 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: your bets. 3 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 2: It is me, Joey p Joe Piezapia, and today we're 4 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 2: going to take a look at the NBA Finals. That's right, 5 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 2: we got here. And of course, who better to talk 6 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: about the NBA Finals with than the guy that brought 7 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: us to the finals. We got here with Dan Martinez. 8 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 2: Follow him on the Twitter regine right now if you 9 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 2: don't already, the spit and speeds and that's a z 10 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: at the end because he's way. 11 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: Cooler than me. 12 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 3: Dane. Here we go. 13 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: So we got the finals here, and I. 14 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: Remember doing a show with you not that long ago, 15 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: a few weeks back, previewing the playoffs and everything that 16 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: was going to go on here. We ended up with 17 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: the Miami Heat. The Lakers did have their run as 18 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: we said that they would. They got hot at the 19 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: right time. We were right about that. They fell short. 20 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 2: The Celtics fell short. We get the Denver Nuggets on 21 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: the other side of this one too, So obviously the 22 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 2: Nuggets were one of the heavy favorites coming in. The 23 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: Suns went by the wayside. Some of the other teams like, oh, 24 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: I don't know, like the Milwaukee Bucks we talked about 25 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: went by the wayside. 26 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: So you nailed that. 27 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 2: So now you have an obligation everyone, I feel like 28 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: to nail the finals. 29 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: Are you up for it, my friend, I'm. 30 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 3: Up for you know, I'm up to swing. We'll see 31 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 3: if we make contact. 32 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 4: I did, however, tell you that I thought the Nuggets 33 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 4: were being undersold as the number one seed in the West, 34 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 4: as the team that was kind of dominant all season 35 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 4: because they didn't have, you know, the sexy big name. 36 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 4: But now I think more and more of the kind 37 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 4: of you know, laymen and normal casual NBA fans are 38 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 4: really getting to see what Nikolai Jokic can do to 39 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 4: impact a game and kind of how they play the 40 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 4: beautiful game, even more than his back to back MVP 41 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 4: seasons a few years ago. 42 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it absolutely is true. 43 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 2: And it's been a fun playoffs here because you've had 44 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 2: some of those those possibilities. I know some people were 45 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: kind of hoping for the old school Celtics Lakers. That 46 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: would have been theoretically probably very good for the casual fan. 47 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: But we're here for the basketball. That's what we're here for, 48 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: and we're gonna talk about the preview as a whole 49 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: of the Finals, and we'll get a little bit into 50 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: Game one, which is coming up in just a few 51 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: days here as we're recording this. So let's start here 52 00:01:55,560 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: with the finals number. The Heat are obviously underdogs here 53 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 2: plus three thirty to win the whole thing, the Nuggets 54 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: minus four eighty. There's a lot of juice, So the 55 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 2: Nuggets are clearly the favorite team. Now, Miami did kind 56 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: of let the Celtics back in it. We all know 57 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 2: that that happened. Yeah, but they handled their business at 58 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: the end. A few health issues to worry about. But 59 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 2: let's talk about the layoff too, because I know a 60 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 2: lot of people, especially early on, are slightly concerned about 61 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: the Nuggets having to sit around and wait because you've 62 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: seen teams many times come out flat, whether it be 63 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: for half or whole game or maybe an entire series. 64 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,119 Speaker 2: So do you have any fear, especially when it's such 65 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: a heavy favorite side here with the Denver Nuggets. 66 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 4: So you know, I think it depends on what your 67 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 4: time horizon is here, Joe, in the entire series. No, 68 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 4: in game one, yeah not really. Maybe they win, but 69 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 4: don't cover. We'll talk about that a little bit later. 70 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 4: On I'm sure, but in like the first half on 71 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 4: Thursday or the first quarter on Thursday. Yes, in that situation, 72 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 4: I could see the heat kind of coming out hotter, 73 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 4: shall we say, and the idea. 74 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 3: Of rest versus rust. 75 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 4: I could see maybe Denver getting out a little bit slow. 76 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 4: Maybe instead of the eight and a half or whatever 77 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 4: you're laying in game one, for the whole game, look 78 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 4: the first half, markets and if you could still get 79 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 4: Miami by four and a half or five there there, 80 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 4: I might be more interested, because I do think there'll 81 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 4: be a small amount of rust, but nothing that, as 82 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 4: we zoom out in the big picture, is actually going 83 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 4: to infect the Nuggets in my opinion. 84 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 2: All right, So if you like the Nuggets, obviously the 85 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 2: juice is ridiculous. So how do you approach it? 86 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: Instead? Do you look for the total games number two? 87 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: Because we have to win four plus four thirty and 88 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: five plus twenty five. That seems to be where the 89 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: public is right now in six games plus two forty 90 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 2: and then seven games all the way plus two forty 91 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: as well. So is it better if you like the 92 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: Nuggets to just go to the games instead? Go to 93 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: that finals total games rather than just bet the Nuggets 94 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: at this heavy juice number. 95 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be one way I would do it. 96 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 4: I would not just bet them with the you know, 97 00:03:58,840 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 4: minus whatever it is on. 98 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 3: Four hundred to win. 99 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 4: I would not do that, right, and hopefully nobody watching 100 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 4: this would make that kind of their mo either. 101 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 3: So no, I think you're on the right track here, Joe. 102 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 4: You know, when I look at the five game series 103 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 4: or the six game series, that's kind of where I 104 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 4: am as well. Far better you know, numbers, you know, 105 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 4: and plus territory for you to do it, But I 106 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 4: would suggest something a little bit different. They also offer 107 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 4: the series spread, okay, Joe, and you can get Denver 108 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 4: minus one and a half games, right, So that pretty 109 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 4: much means that Denver wins and it does not go 110 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 4: to seven, because even if they take care of Miami 111 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 4: four games to two, you would still win that bet, 112 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 4: and that dramatically changes the juice. The last time I 113 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 4: saw over on FanDuel, Denver minus one and a half 114 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 4: games is like minus one sixty, still a fair amount 115 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 4: of juice, slightly more than I would like to play, 116 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 4: but certainly not at the number that you were talking about. 117 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 4: And the reason I say that is because I'm vacillating 118 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 4: right now on if I like it as Denver in 119 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 4: five or Denver in six, and so to go your way, 120 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 4: I would have to cover both of those options. 121 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 3: Here. 122 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 4: I get Denver whether they win in four or in 123 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 4: five or in six. I understand that minus one sixty 124 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 4: is still not you know, great, it is still juice, 125 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 4: but it's you know, cutting it in more than half. 126 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 4: So in the series, that's the way I would go. 127 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 4: If I had to say one, specifically, it would be five. Okay, 128 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 4: it would be five. I do believe Denver can win 129 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 4: the two at home. Then I think Miami, as we've seen, 130 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 4: they are tough, they are battle tested, they have pride. 131 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 3: I think they will win won in Miami. 132 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 4: But then going back to Denver, I think Denver can 133 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 4: close it out in five. I would hesitate against the 134 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 4: six because if it gets to that game, it would 135 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 4: be back in South Beach, leaving Miami with a better chance. Right, So, 136 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 4: if I had to say one, it would be Nuggets 137 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 4: in five. But I think the better way to do 138 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,119 Speaker 4: it is to look at that series spread, which pretty 139 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 4: much covers you unless it goes to seven games. 140 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: Dame Martinez starts to vacillate. Everybody should pay attention. That's 141 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 2: that's always what I say. That's I kind of live 142 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 2: by that. All right, let's get to the finals MVP too. Obviously, 143 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 2: Joki is at minus three twenty, Jimmy Butler at plus 144 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: three thirty, Joel Murray at plus twelve hundred. Those are 145 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: really the top three on the board. Is there any 146 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: value here in this wager for you at all? 147 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 3: So, I mean, no, is the answer to your question. 148 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 3: I know. 149 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 4: But if I had to like put a bet somewhere 150 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 4: in this market, and I'm not necessarily saying that I 151 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 4: think you should, the name would be Jamal Murray for me. Again, 152 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 4: I'm not picking Jokic at that number. I do believe 153 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 4: Denver will win the championship. So I'm not taking a 154 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 4: Jimmy Butler a bam at anybody on Miami. And then 155 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 4: I look to who is anybody a non Jokisch nugget 156 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 4: that I could see a narrative for right and the 157 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 4: only one that would come to mind is Jamal Murray. 158 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 4: I mean he's at a great playoffs as well. I 159 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 4: think I told you Joe a couple of times back 160 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 4: that the most important player in the Western Conference playoffs 161 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 4: would be Jamal Murray. And I said that because we 162 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 4: all knew what Jokic was gonna do. But I said, 163 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 4: if Murray returns to that bubble form, that pre injury form, 164 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 4: then Batman would have his Robin and Denver would get 165 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 4: to the finals. That's, in essence what has happened. We've 166 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 4: seen forty point games from Murray, you know, great shooting performances. 167 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 4: So if Denver wins the Larry O'Brien Trophy, it will 168 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 4: probably be Jokic. But the only other player that I 169 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 4: could craft the narrative for is Jamal Murray. So the 170 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 4: question is I think he's at what like twelve to 171 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 4: one or something like that. 172 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: You have to put a lot on it. You can 173 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: but one unit and still make a big return. Yeah, 174 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: and I want to speculate that's not a big deal, right. 175 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 3: I think that's viable. 176 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 4: Right, But you know that's if you you know, hold 177 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 4: my hand and twist it and forced me to say 178 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 4: that there's somewhere where there is value, because, to be 179 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 4: quite honest, I think the correlation of Nuggets winning the 180 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 4: championship and Jokic winning the MVP is almost one to one. 181 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 3: But if you want to play in this market, Murray would. 182 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: Be the choice for me. All right, what about when 183 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,239 Speaker 1: it comes to scoring leader for the finals? 184 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 2: Two? Obviously Jokic at the top there, Jimmy Butler is 185 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 2: at plus one seventy, Jokich is at plus one ten, 186 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 2: so he's looking at plus money on him, and then 187 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: Jamal Murray at plus two sixty. Do you have any 188 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 2: feelings on this one or is this a stay away too? 189 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 3: This is sort of a stay away here. 190 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 4: I think the Jokich number is a little bit more palatable, 191 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 4: So if you want to try that, go ahead, But 192 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 4: you know it's hysterical. Joe Okay, have you seen the 193 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 4: odds now for Yolks to be the leading scorer? Have 194 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 4: you seen the odds for Yokic to be the leading 195 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 4: rebounder and to be the leading assist guy? It's literally 196 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 4: minus twenty thousand to one, you know what I mean. 197 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 4: So they think that this guy is gonna be the 198 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 4: leading assist getter in this series, even more than points, 199 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 4: and I think that speaks to the greatness of what 200 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 4: we're seeing out of the Joker so far. But these 201 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 4: markets are not exactly where I would go because they 202 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 4: are dominated by Jokic. When it comes to the player props, 203 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 4: I think I'm more comfortable trying to see what I 204 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 4: understand than these matchups when these two teams get together 205 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 4: and trying to find out more game by game player 206 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 4: props where I do think there are some options, because 207 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 4: I do think this is a very interesting matchup of 208 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 4: teams and styles and players that could create some opportunity 209 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 4: in those props. 210 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 2: Now, if you've got predictions, we want you to drop 211 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: them in the comments below. We love hearing from you 212 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: on the YouTube channel. 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So I don't 230 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: know what you approach on this, because you know we're 231 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 2: talking about you know, plus plus like eleven thousand, right 232 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 2: plus forty eight hundred. You know, these are huge numbers 233 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 2: you're getting on these bets. And for those of you 234 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: who don't know what I'm talking about, it's, you know, 235 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 2: game one, you think Miami wins, then you have to 236 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: get game two right, gay three right. So you could 237 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 2: just kind of spread a bunch of units over this 238 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 2: and just try to find the combination of ones that 239 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 2: you like. Is this something that you would even entertain 240 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 2: doing if you have the capital to do it, because 241 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: it is some big returns, especially if you have a 242 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: real good feel potentially on the first few, because if 243 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: you get the first few right on a spot like FanDuel, 244 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: you have that cash out option where all of a 245 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 2: sudden you can still make money on this and don't 246 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 2: have to see it all the way through. 247 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a great point. 248 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 4: You know, with the cash out option, I think that 249 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 4: is a little bit better. And then what you could do, 250 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 4: like you said, if you nailed the first three, right, 251 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 4: you could also hedge by game by game betting against. 252 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 3: What you've already laid out. 253 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 4: That's a blueprint, right, So first of all, can you 254 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 4: imagine whoever it was that might have nailed this for 255 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 4: the Eastern Conference Final, Like what were the odds to 256 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 4: go Miami, Miami, Miami, Boston, Boston, Boston. 257 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 3: And then Miami the road game seven. If you have 258 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 3: that ticket, do me a favor, you know, hit me. 259 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 4: And Joe up with the screenshot of that, and my 260 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 4: man's gonna give you like a betting pro subscription or 261 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 4: something like that because you deserve it. 262 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: That person. 263 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 2: That right, But you're one hundred percent right, Like I 264 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 2: think the hedging is where you hit the nail on 265 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 2: the head, because if you get a couple of them right, 266 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 2: then you can start, you know, playing around where they put. 267 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 2: It's so tempting than because these numbers are just enormous 268 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 2: that you're getting on these and you know, and fandols 269 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 2: one of those size where you can cash out and 270 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 2: they have this wager. So this is why these betting 271 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: pros in the app, because you could find these things 272 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 2: out there. 273 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: Go ahead day. 274 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 4: So I so I told you when I thought it 275 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 4: was going to be Denver in five or six, right, 276 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 4: I gave you a little bit of insight as the 277 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 4: kind of what I thought the. 278 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 3: Roadmap to this would be. 279 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 4: And in essence, you know, if you're willing to and 280 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 4: with these kind of odds and if you're going to 281 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 4: play in this market, you're not doing this and covering 282 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 4: one option. 283 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 3: Okay, No, you just have a ticket right Denver. 284 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: Jesus don't have me on Denver that you don't. You 285 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: can't just do it outright, So you got to get 286 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: more clever. And I think that's what we're trying to 287 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: do here. 288 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 3: So this could be. 289 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 4: And if you're willing to put out like you know, 290 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 4: four or five different permutations right then I think you 291 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 4: have a way to do this. 292 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 3: And by the way, permutation another buzzword of the day. Okay, 293 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 3: with vacillate, my friend, we're getting. 294 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: The whole vocabulary toilet paper. 295 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 3: I've got for sure. It's like pee wee Herman's secret word. 296 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 3: We're all going to be crazy at some point. 297 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 4: But I do think Denver win's the first two at home, okay, 298 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 4: and then I think Miami gets one of the two 299 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 4: back in Miami. So that's already just a couple, right, 300 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 4: going Denver Denver, Miami Denver or Denver Denver Denver Miami, right, 301 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 4: and then in similarly, I think if Denver is on 302 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 4: the precipice when it goes to game five, that's the 303 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 4: one to cover. That's what I do think it happens, right, Denver, Denver, Miami, 304 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 4: Denver Denver. 305 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 3: It's pretty much what I think. 306 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 4: If you think Miami has a little bit more fight 307 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 4: in them, then you could play with some more permutations 308 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 4: that get it to game six. I don't think this 309 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 4: is gonna go seven, and that's part of because of 310 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 4: the matchups that I was telling you. I think this 311 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 4: is a bad matchup for Miami on a number of levels. 312 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 4: So I would do this short of seven games, and 313 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 4: I would figure out, do you think Miami can win 314 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 4: both at home or do they split it, meaning that 315 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 4: Denver would be on the precipice at home in game five. 316 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 4: I think that's the kind of way you have to 317 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 4: think about it. If in fact you like Denver, if 318 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 4: you like Miami, then just take them in the series. 319 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: Price. 320 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 2: All right, let's take a quick look at game one here. Obviously, 321 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: the Nuggets are heavy favorites, favored by eight and a 322 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: half right now on the spread. 323 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: They are at home. 324 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: The total for this game is two nineteen and a 325 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: half as we're recording this now, that could change potentially 326 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 2: if you like Miami on the upset and the potential 327 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 2: for you know, the flat Denver Nuggets potentially to come 328 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 2: out have to layoff. Well, you're getting plus three ten 329 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: on the money line. Otherwise, how do you approach this 330 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 2: game right here in game one day? 331 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 3: Sure? 332 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 4: So, like I said, I think Miami in the first half, 333 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 4: Miami in the first quarter, those are numbers that I'd 334 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 4: be interested in, you know, getting a Miami plus a 335 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 4: three in the first quarter, getting Miami plus a four 336 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 4: and a half or five in the first half. That's 337 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 4: the way I think you could play it, because I 338 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 4: do believe that maybe the rust will be there early. 339 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 4: I mean, Miami is hot right now. Caleb Martin, for example, 340 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 4: against these Boston Celtics went twenty two of forty five 341 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 4: from beyond the arc, that's basically just a hairshy of 342 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 4: fifty percent. I don't know if that's sustainable, but I 343 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 4: know it's hot right now. Right So I can see 344 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 4: Miami getting out to a lead and Denver kind of 345 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 4: coming back. 346 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: Ultimately, I would take Miami and the points in this game. 347 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 4: I think Denver wins this game, but I don't know 348 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 4: if they cover. They played each other twice in the 349 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 4: regular season, Okay, once in February. That was in Miami 350 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 4: and the Nuggets won by four. That was a one twelve, 351 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 4: one oh eight kind of game, all right. Then they 352 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 4: also played in December and Denver and that was also 353 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 4: that was a five point Nuggets win in Denver. That 354 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 4: game was one twenty four, one nineteen. And I can 355 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 4: see Denver ultimately winning Game one by the same kind 356 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 4: of margin four or five six points. We've also seen 357 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 4: that Miami is not gonna let go of the rope, 358 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Miami is going to kind 359 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 4: of make a run. They are going to keep it close, 360 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 4: they are going to fight back. So if I get 361 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 4: eight and a half points, I see it even at nine. 362 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 4: In some places, it may climb before they actually put 363 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 4: the ball in the air. I would take those points 364 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 4: in Game one because I think Denver will win, but 365 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 4: I do not think they will cover. And I do 366 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 4: think this is just a bad matchup for Miami because 367 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 4: I don't know if they stay hot like they have 368 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 4: been against Denver. I've excuse me, against Boston. And also 369 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 4: if you saw the Eustern Conference Finals, Joe Boston sort 370 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 4: of reverted into a hero ballish kind of team. Jalen Brown, 371 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 4: Jason Tatum's just taking their turns, right. Who was gonna, 372 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 4: you know, take it to the hole, who was going 373 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 4: to put up the early in the shot clock jumper. 374 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 4: Only when Boston got back to what they do well 375 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 4: with ball movement, right with swinging it, making the extra pass, 376 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 4: that's what they did in games four, five, six, that's 377 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 4: what gave Miami trouble, and quite frankly, that's how Denver 378 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 4: has played the entire time. One of the beautiful parts 379 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 4: about Jokic as this like point center, is he initiates 380 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 4: the offense. It is not stagnant. You don't have people 381 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 4: dribbling for you know, ten seconds in the shot clock. 382 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 4: The ball is always in motion, and that has given 383 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 4: Boston some fits. I think that excuse me, Miami some fits. 384 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 4: I think the Denver offense plays to a bad matchup 385 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 4: for Miami, and so I do think Denver will be 386 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 4: able to score. That's why I would also take the 387 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 4: over in the game. I know this idea of like 388 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 4: the feeling out process early on, the idea of rust 389 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,239 Speaker 4: early on. But I just gave you the scores of 390 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 4: both of their regular season matchups which went above what 391 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 4: I believe is to nineteen and a half, which is 392 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 4: the number. And I think that flow will continue because 393 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 4: that is who Denver has been all season, and I 394 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 4: think they will kind of get back into that flow 395 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 4: relatively quickly. 396 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 2: One last thing you mentioned about how hot Caleb Martin 397 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 2: has been. Ye, he is at plus two hundred right 398 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 2: now on the board to score twenty or more points. 399 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 2: You think he can hit that number at that two 400 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: to one. 401 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 3: So here's the thing. 402 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 4: Wait, we need to wait for this with Miami because Joe, 403 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 4: if you're watching Easton Diference Finals, they were talking a 404 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 4: lot about these undrafted players of the Miami Heat. Right 405 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 4: There was Martin, there was Gabe Vincent, There's Duncan Robinson, 406 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 4: there's you know Struce as well, and they have been 407 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 4: making a lot of the kind of potential of the 408 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 4: Miami Heat. However, Miami expects the return of Tyler Hero 409 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 4: for this series. Hero broke his hand all the way 410 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 4: back in the Miami and the Milwaukee series and everyone's. 411 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 3: Saying, oh, he's done for the year. 412 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 4: Why because people assume that Milwaukee was gonna advance. There 413 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 4: is a chance for Tyler Hero to come back in 414 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 4: these NBA Finals. And this is a guy who was 415 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 4: like the second leading scorer on the team at twenty 416 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 4: twenty one points a game, and I just wonder what 417 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 4: that's going to mean for the usage rate, the touches, 418 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 4: the shots of guys like Martin and a Vincent, Anna Struce, 419 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 4: Anna Robinson, because Hero demands that attention and deserves it right. 420 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 4: So I would actually lean towards fading some of those 421 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 4: guys that have picked up the slack in the absence 422 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 4: of Oladipo and Hero until we see if Hero is 423 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 4: back and how many minutes he may get. 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As always, 453 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 2: we always feel much more empowered after speaking to you 454 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 2: about the NBA. And you can follow him on the 455 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 2: Twitter machine at spit and Speeds. He is the best, 456 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 2: So Dane, great stuff as always that I'll do it 457 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,239 Speaker 2: for us, but the story of the game goes on 458 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: for Dave Martinez. 459 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: I'm JOEYP. We'll see you next time. Kids. Enjoy the 460 00:20:47,119 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: NBA Finals.