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<v Speaker 1>Man, what's hand him? Man? You got more? Shawn Beisma Lynch.

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<v Speaker 2>Doug Hendrickson and Gavin Knewsome.

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<v Speaker 3>And you're listening to politics, you're knowing to be you

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<v Speaker 3>known to be right before Thanksgiving. Every Thanksgiving, the week

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<v Speaker 3>of Thanksgiving, we do a series of pardons and commutations

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<v Speaker 3>and one of the great gifts no bs like. It's

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<v Speaker 3>an amazing, amazing, amazing experience picking up the phone and

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<v Speaker 3>making the calls to dozens of people that for years

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<v Speaker 3>and years and years have wanted to clean their record

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<v Speaker 3>and turn the page in their life and to let

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<v Speaker 3>them know that they officially have been pardoned. And so

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<v Speaker 3>I was on the phone coincidental to this, this hunter

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<v Speaker 3>pardon with I think it was eighteen or so. I

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<v Speaker 3>can't remember that number, but it's roughly about eighteen people

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<v Speaker 3>and give them a call. I got hung up on

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<v Speaker 3>a number of times. One person said, fuck you stood.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, Jesus, I was calling to tell you

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<v Speaker 3>I parted you. Another person goes, yeah, send me the paperwork.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, wow, okay, I have no gratitude.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't believe it.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't believe it. Other people like, literally, I'll get

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<v Speaker 3>a call back because I don't have a block thing said,

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<v Speaker 3>is this really you? I thought it was my buddy Bob.

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<v Speaker 3>He was pulling my leg. I'm totally embarrassed.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Other people literally it's other people literally say there's like silence.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I'm sorry, are you there? It's Kevin. He goes,

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<v Speaker 3>if this is really you? And if you're not pulling

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<v Speaker 3>my leg? And then there start crying. He's like, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's like a maze. And then I'm starting to cry.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't even talk because it's so intense. You don't

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<v Speaker 3>know what this means to my kids. I can look

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<v Speaker 3>at my kids in the eye. For thirty years, I've

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<v Speaker 3>made a mistake thirty years ago. I've done everything right,

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<v Speaker 3>but I've never felt right. This is the first time

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<v Speaker 3>I felt, you know, and like you're like Jesus and

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<v Speaker 3>you hang up and you sit there. I said, I

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<v Speaker 3>swear I got truth. I'm sitting in my office by myself,

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<v Speaker 3>and most folks had left the office. I'm just looking outside,

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<v Speaker 3>going I'm the luckiest goddamn son of a bitch in

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<v Speaker 3>the world to be able to make these calls and

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<v Speaker 3>to have the gift of just a simple decision. Uh

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<v Speaker 3>and and and to give people that that that that

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<v Speaker 3>second chance in their life. So, man, Marshaun, to your point,

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<v Speaker 3>those things matter and you take them very seriously. There's

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<v Speaker 3>something reverential about that process. Commutations, about community of sentence,

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<v Speaker 3>about a pardon, about cleaning a record. So they just

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<v Speaker 3>you got to be careful about politicizing. And I guess

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<v Speaker 3>that goes to my concern more broadly, is because I'm

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<v Speaker 3>a practitioner in this space. It's not intellectual uh and

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's real power uh and it should be used,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, sparingly, but it's very powerful. It's just as

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<v Speaker 3>a human expression. It's it's one of the no bullshit,

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<v Speaker 3>it's I swear I sat there saying, for all the

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<v Speaker 3>crap you take in this job, you have moments like

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<v Speaker 3>this where where you're talking to human beans and you

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<v Speaker 3>feel like you've changed their lives. And to have that

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<v Speaker 3>ability to do that so easily, Man, what a gift.

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<v Speaker 1>This rewarding huh, next level brother, some pretty good perks

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<v Speaker 1>to the job being huh yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's like that's that's you know, any getting reservations

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<v Speaker 3>or using Doug to get a free you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>get to the bar or something. It ain't about that

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<v Speaker 3>brother that.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going for show. There's one dude you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to see with power, oh ship. I could only imagine

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<v Speaker 1>I would.

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<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't last very long. More sean it would. It

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<v Speaker 5>would last maybe two weeks in the job.

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<v Speaker 3>But hey, by the way, I don't want to believe

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<v Speaker 3>for everybody, shots for you.

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<v Speaker 5>We're keeping this place and open on that long. We're

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<v Speaker 5>getting the planes. I don't care if I can't take

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<v Speaker 5>your private plane.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm taking it. Let's go. We're going on vacation.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you guys are talking private planes. I'm Jesus Christ

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<v Speaker 3>kind of lives you to live. I'm sitting there, you know, grinding,

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<v Speaker 3>doing pardons and pearls every week. By the way, I

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<v Speaker 3>got some good paroles this week. About sixty paroles this week.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean people like you, this Doug. I've shared some

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<v Speaker 3>of those with you in confidence broad strokes because we

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<v Speaker 3>don't we don't break. I don't, I don't use names.

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<v Speaker 3>You ain't seen nothing like this group, you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>bodies dismembered, the whole thing. He's tough, world marshawn, no bullsh.

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<v Speaker 5>I will tell you that right now we don't let

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<v Speaker 5>that person out.

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<v Speaker 2>We keep that one in.

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<v Speaker 3>Back to the Menendez brothers too, because no bullshit. It's

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<v Speaker 3>like it's those are the high profile things and then

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<v Speaker 3>the low profile stuff, but the things that people don't

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<v Speaker 3>even realize that happened every single goddamn day. Man, human condition,

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<v Speaker 3>Doug Man. So we got a bunch of questions this week,

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<v Speaker 3>and I know for Marshawn, got a bunch of questions.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, Doug, there are a few coming my way.

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<v Speaker 3>But I didn't understand one of these damn questions about

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<v Speaker 3>Black Monday. I was like, is this some shopping network thing?

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<v Speaker 3>And then I realized it has had nothing to do

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<v Speaker 3>with shopping unless you're shopping for a new head coach

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<v Speaker 3>or something. What the hell is this Black Monday thing?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Black Monday, Cavin is notoriously the Monday after the last

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<v Speaker 5>NFL game in a few weeks, and that is when

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<v Speaker 5>the coaches in the gms have not been fired get fired.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a brutal day for you know, everybody in the organization.

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<v Speaker 5>But these owners now, as you know, these guys want

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<v Speaker 5>to win, and so it used to be the head

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<v Speaker 5>coaches gyms get a couple of years, two, three, four

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<v Speaker 5>years to build a team.

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<v Speaker 2>Now sometimes they're hired one year and done.

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<v Speaker 5>So you got black Monday probably as media's maybe six

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<v Speaker 5>seven eight coaches getting fired.

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<v Speaker 2>Four or five gyms get fired, and.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of coaches try to come in and revamp things.

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<v Speaker 5>But the interesting part is is you know these owners

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<v Speaker 5>looking for a quick fix. You're looking for leaders, you're

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<v Speaker 5>looking for CEOs, looking for coaches.

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<v Speaker 2>More than a they don't, they don't work out. They fail.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a lot of number twos out there and not

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of number ones who they fail A lot.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of these coaches fail, a lot of the

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<v Speaker 5>gms fail.

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<v Speaker 1>With a year to get an understanding it is, and

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<v Speaker 1>you come into a fucked up position. How is that

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<v Speaker 1>a fail?

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you? I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have it. You don't have it. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>even had a time to fail.

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<v Speaker 5>Because you have You have owners that don't really know

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<v Speaker 5>the sport and they want to win right away and

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<v Speaker 5>they don't they don't need patience.

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<v Speaker 1>Who haven't won a Super Bowl? Which team well.

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<v Speaker 5>Other than lately case and uh, I don't know who

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<v Speaker 5>else is wanted to be says Casey Leady.

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<v Speaker 1>I said who hasn't. I mean, it's teams that ain't

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<v Speaker 1>even you fear me.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's a it's a it's a brutal thing.

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<v Speaker 1>They've been going through this for forever.

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<v Speaker 3>Jets are a prime example. This man, you get rid

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<v Speaker 3>of the coach in the middle of the year, and

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<v Speaker 3>then they keep losing, losing, losing. The pressure on that

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<v Speaker 3>how about the pressure on him on Johnson as the

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<v Speaker 3>owner of the Jets after what more losing seasons than

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<v Speaker 3>any other franchise the last decade or so.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it's interesting, it's interesting question, Gavin, whoever asked that?

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<v Speaker 5>And I do want to parallel back to you quickly,

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<v Speaker 5>because if you look about a lot of these guys

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<v Speaker 5>that get these jobs, new coaches and new gms, they

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<v Speaker 5>fail for a couple of reasons. One is, yes, as

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<v Speaker 5>more Shawn's point, the team's not very good, it's tough

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<v Speaker 5>to build it back quickly. But they also fail because

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<v Speaker 5>they're afraid to make decisions and they're afraid to really

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<v Speaker 5>be that person. And so do you find the same

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<v Speaker 5>thing in politics? Do you see mayors or governors that

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<v Speaker 5>come in that kind of afraid to lead. I've always

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<v Speaker 5>admired what you've done, You're right, wrong and different. You're

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<v Speaker 5>going to do something and stand by it. But do

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<v Speaker 5>you see a lot of people in your industry that

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<v Speaker 5>get that number one job and then they don't deliver? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I think it has I can't help but

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<v Speaker 3>thinking about and forgive me sort of fixated on the

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<v Speaker 3>Jets and the context that some of their struggles over

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<v Speaker 3>the last many years, predating even Rogers. But it's interesting

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<v Speaker 3>in the context your question because I think about the

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<v Speaker 3>times you don't make decisions or when those decisions have

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<v Speaker 3>consequences as it relates to people that are on your

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<v Speaker 3>team that have outsized influence on that decision making. So

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<v Speaker 3>even the owner of a team, even the head coach

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<v Speaker 3>of a team, sometimes doesn't have that ability to make

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<v Speaker 3>those decision And I think about, honestly, the impact of

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<v Speaker 3>some of the decisions that you wonder are being made

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<v Speaker 3>by the GM or the owner of the Jets, or

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<v Speaker 3>by their quarterback, and how you balance that and the

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<v Speaker 3>consequences of indecision or decision that you outsource to a superstar.

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<v Speaker 3>Think about Lebron. You think about some of the most

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<v Speaker 3>high profile and prolific leaders on teams and a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of owners you think they have the real control, but

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of that's outsourced to the folks that are

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<v Speaker 3>out there on the field. And honestly, I think about

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<v Speaker 3>that in the context of politics as well, and how

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<v Speaker 3>you sort of balance all of those things. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>our fields not just a board of directors of one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and twenty people that I don't pick even if

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<v Speaker 3>I did, how do you get consensus with one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and twenty people on the legislature and then you forty

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<v Speaker 3>million people that you quote unquote serve that pay your salary.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's a different construct, but it's the same I

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<v Speaker 3>think fundamental A challenge is balancing that decision making in

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<v Speaker 3>the context of how that decision making ultimately will be

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<v Speaker 3>implemented and absorbed.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll also look at Marshawn. I know, we talked about it.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, when John Schneider traded for Marshawn, it revamped

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<v Speaker 5>the entire organization. They get to they win a Super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 5>get back to another one. There's only one other team

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<v Speaker 5>at that time that was interested to trading from Marshawn.

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<v Speaker 5>That was Green Bay and a lot had to do

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<v Speaker 5>with Aaron Rodgers. Okay, because the Packers never traded for people.

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<v Speaker 5>Back then, they still didn't trade for it. But the

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<v Speaker 5>point I'm trying to make is that you had one team, Gavin,

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<v Speaker 5>that was willing to jump out and say, you know

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<v Speaker 5>what I'm going not there's no chance on his talent,

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<v Speaker 5>but there's a chance on making it all work together.

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<v Speaker 2>But they did it. Look what happened to that team.

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<v Speaker 5>But a lot of these gms come in and are

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<v Speaker 5>afraid to trade up in the draft. They're afraid to

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<v Speaker 5>get a fragian, they're afraid to take a gamble on

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<v Speaker 5>a player. And you can't win if you don't do that.

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<v Speaker 5>You can't sit back and say I'm gonna take my

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<v Speaker 5>eight picks and not go into free agency and not

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<v Speaker 5>gamble and do something.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to be able to will and to roll

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<v Speaker 2>the dice a little.

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<v Speaker 3>Bit pretty you think about it with the Niners, that

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<v Speaker 3>with Trey, with Lance and the first round draft choice,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, and and so far their GM is

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<v Speaker 3>living to fight another day. And some you're to your point,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you know, you get you know, miss one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred percent of the shots you don't take. But the

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<v Speaker 3>flip side of that, as well as some sort of

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<v Speaker 3>legendary screw ups as it relates to some of those

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<v Speaker 3>picks or draft moving up in a draft, uh, and

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<v Speaker 3>then falling flat on your face and you destroy your

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<v Speaker 3>franchise for a decade because you skipped someone of you know,

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<v Speaker 3>epic talent to get someone no talent. So look, decisions

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<v Speaker 3>are tough, leadership's tough, but the buck stops. And it's

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<v Speaker 3>I think the buck in this case is next level

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<v Speaker 3>to your point about these owners, now, I mean they're

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<v Speaker 3>you know this is I mean, these guys always get

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<v Speaker 3>what they want in their private lives and they expect

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<v Speaker 3>when they own a franchise that they should be able

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<v Speaker 3>to get that on the field. Uh. And uh, it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's that's this short termism is not good for the

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<v Speaker 3>sport uh and obviously not good for these franchises.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I got a question a few Marshawn.

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<v Speaker 5>This has comes from Stacy and she wants some relationship

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<v Speaker 5>advice for Marshawn.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, the only one who lives does not Mary.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's the question.

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<v Speaker 5>I am currently in a long distant relationship with a

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<v Speaker 5>guy in Oakland, I live in New Hampshire. Whenever I

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<v Speaker 5>text him first, which is rare, he takes sometimes hours

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<v Speaker 5>to respond and tells me is busy with his work

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<v Speaker 5>on the flip side. When he texts me first, he

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<v Speaker 5>expects me to drop everything I'm doing and immediately talk

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<v Speaker 5>to him or else he becomes our rate.

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<v Speaker 2>What do I do about the double standard? Give me

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<v Speaker 2>some counsel.

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<v Speaker 5>That's to you, Marshawn, Oh gosh, this.

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<v Speaker 3>Relationship advice?

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<v Speaker 4>You fear me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even I think it's just because they're in

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<v Speaker 1>front of town. And I mean if he said he

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<v Speaker 1>was busy, I mean, if he ain't gave you no

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<v Speaker 1>other reason to not believe that, then yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you got to take it for face value. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>women got something called up women's intuition that they be

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<v Speaker 1>learning with. And if that's what you feel, maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta make your decision. And we were just talking about decision.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotta make it and you gotta stick with it.

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<v Speaker 5>And by the way, maybe she can move out of

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<v Speaker 5>New Hampshire. I've been there a couple of times. It's

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<v Speaker 5>not a lot of New Hampshire's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you by the way, Hey, no, no, you don't

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<v Speaker 3>go hate on New Hampshire. Man, what a beautiful damn state.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean long distant relationships. I mean, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean they can be hard. They can be hard, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta have a lot of trust, a lot of trust,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, And a lot of faith.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of trust and a lot of faith.

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<v Speaker 5>So Stacey, we're gonna send you some Southwest vouchers to

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<v Speaker 5>get you out to oklahmore often.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you see your boyfriend and I do it good.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, this guy, this is a marshaun. I appreciate

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<v Speaker 3>your relationship advice, brother, that's all sound.

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<v Speaker 5>I got one here for you, Gavin, from a concerned teacher.

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<v Speaker 5>And we know about teachers.

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<v Speaker 4>We got kids, Yes, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>Mister Newsom, I am a teacher.

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<v Speaker 5>I've read that the Department of Education is possibly going

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<v Speaker 5>to be demolished. Thinking of the effects this will have.

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<v Speaker 5>As a CTA union member, should we be proactive and

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<v Speaker 5>learn more about what this will mean for teachers. I've

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<v Speaker 5>also heard about detention centers and knowing the students, my students' families,

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<v Speaker 5>I worry. I know it's a lot on the teacher's minds,

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<v Speaker 5>how funds and SPED will be affected.

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<v Speaker 2>What can we do now? Any advice?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, I think the questions pretty grounded in

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<v Speaker 3>legit concern. You got Vince McMahon's ex wife who's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be running federally the Department of Education.

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<v Speaker 5>Wait, the wrestlers, the wrestlers at the Vince McMahon dooc.

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<v Speaker 5>I just saw the WW guy. His wife's running the

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<v Speaker 5>Department of educator.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, she's no dummy, So I just want

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<v Speaker 3>to want to say this, she's not and I don't

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<v Speaker 3>say that as a pejorative. She ran the small business aministration.

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<v Speaker 3>She's extraordinarily bright, but I don't know of any real

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<v Speaker 3>history she has on public education. And the guy that

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<v Speaker 3>is appointing her the future president wants to eliminate the

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<v Speaker 3>Department of Education. He ran on it. So the question

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<v Speaker 3>is he's going to follow through on his campaign promise.

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<v Speaker 3>My concern is less about her and more about his

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<v Speaker 3>intention to do exactly what our listener is concerned about.

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<v Speaker 3>But that said, it's such a small margin in Congress.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to get congressional approval. We just want a

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<v Speaker 3>big race out here in California. It's it's literally a

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<v Speaker 3>two vote margin now in the House of Representatives in Congress,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I don't know that they're ever going to

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<v Speaker 3>pass something that completely vanalyzes the Department of Education. But

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<v Speaker 3>we've gamed it out California. It's I think, and don't

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<v Speaker 3>quote me, but I think it's seven point nine billion

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<v Speaker 3>dollars that's at risk if they eliminated all the federal

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<v Speaker 3>funds come into the states, so it's not inconsequential. But

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I can't imagine they'll be able to pull

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<v Speaker 3>it off. But we're preparing for the worst case scenario,

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<v Speaker 3>and we'll have the backs of our damn teachers. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>don't don't you worry.

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<v Speaker 2>Good appreciate that, Gavin. I'll let her know.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>Question, Marshawn, this is for you, Uh coming out Black Friday,

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<v Speaker 5>Cyber Monday's coming up. We've loved the Besmo products back

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<v Speaker 5>in the day. What are you looking forward for Christmas?

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<v Speaker 5>Any Bestmo stuff we can buy? And what do you

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<v Speaker 5>recommend that's on your Haliday list?

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<v Speaker 1>Man? Damn, I'm I'm pretty simple when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of shit.

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<v Speaker 5>Eh, don't buy the Oro Ran I can tell you that.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't don't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>She just lost a sponsor, Dan, you loss of sponsors.

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<v Speaker 1>When I'm living some simple I'm gonna have to think

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<v Speaker 1>about that.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, Well we'll bring that back in the next episode.

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<v Speaker 5>What do you want, Gavin? Tell me what do you want?

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<v Speaker 4>Avin?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I was humbled yesterday. There's a guy,

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<v Speaker 3>unbelievable guy that's that's worked in three administrations, who had

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<v Speaker 3>his birthday yesterday, John, and we in our office and

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<v Speaker 3>John's a rock star in every way, shape or form.

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<v Speaker 3>He's he's a young man with special needs. And I said,

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<v Speaker 3>what are you hoping to get for your birthday? And

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<v Speaker 3>he literally lit up and got emotional because he said,

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<v Speaker 3>I think I'm going to get what I want. I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, what is it, John, This is amazing. He says,

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<v Speaker 3>black socks and white socks, and I was like, damn.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was like it was like he was touched

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<v Speaker 3>just by the question. He was so excited. I asked,

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<v Speaker 3>and he said, that's what he really wants and he

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<v Speaker 3>thinks he's going to get that, And it made me

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<v Speaker 3>just adjust all my I literally was thinking, like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going through, you know, the list of what all the

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<v Speaker 3>kids want and everything else. I got to meet John.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, get his info. We'll get him some beast smote

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<v Speaker 5>socks right now out to him. The care package I'm

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<v Speaker 5>that serious.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah no, But you know what, that's just a different

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<v Speaker 3>level of you know, I mean in terms of just

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<v Speaker 3>setting your own expectations of life and having a framework

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<v Speaker 3>of gratitude. Uh. And this is a guy just filled

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<v Speaker 3>with joy all time and fills our damn office with joy.

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<v Speaker 3>He worked for the Schwarzenegger administration. He's still with us.

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<v Speaker 3>And I joked, I said, in a couple of years, man,

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna work for another governor. He's like yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>like Jesus, we come and go. And John's still with us.

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<v Speaker 3>He does the mailroom at the office, and he's a

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<v Speaker 3>rock star. And it's a good life lesson. So my

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<v Speaker 3>Christmas list just got pared down, though I do want

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<v Speaker 3>some shoes. Man, you guys are good giving me shoes

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<v Speaker 3>side size twelve, twelve and a half, that's all. So

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<v Speaker 3>I love every time you guys get me with Snoop

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<v Speaker 3>gets those shoes. Those you know we love you.

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<v Speaker 5>Only guys know that like you grew between the twelve

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<v Speaker 5>and twelve and a half. They think either you're twelve

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<v Speaker 5>or twelve and a half.

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<v Speaker 3>I know I'm both. It depends on the damn make

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<v Speaker 3>of the shoe. Just saying though I do like those

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<v Speaker 3>Snoop sketchers no bs, thank you Snoop.

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<v Speaker 4>They are nice.

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<v Speaker 5>So Govin got another list your question here from Grace,

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<v Speaker 5>and her question is thank you for all that you're

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<v Speaker 5>doing on this podcast and engaging with listeners.

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<v Speaker 2>Gavin.

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<v Speaker 5>In twenty three, you are someone claiming to be you

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<v Speaker 5>made your first and last public post on Blue Sky.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh lash forward to now there are a number of

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<v Speaker 5>people in your comments section begging you to come back.

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<v Speaker 2>Will you please appease them?

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<v Speaker 3>You can't even make this up. We literally now are

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<v Speaker 3>doing simultaneous posts on X and Blue Sky, which is interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>And I love the question timely question because there I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, by any objective measure, the toxicity on X

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<v Speaker 3>is next level and there's not a lot of confidence

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<v Speaker 3>is going to get any better, as the editorial side

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<v Speaker 3>of it is completely just gone, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>vile and terrible things have said on that platform, and

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<v Speaker 3>Blue Sky has provided an alternative that everybody's been hoping

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<v Speaker 3>for for some time. This even pre dates you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I must taking over Twitter and and moving it to X.

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<v Speaker 3>This notion that you just don't want one platform to

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<v Speaker 3>dominate and Blue Skuy's literally getting all this renewed attention

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<v Speaker 3>and traction, and as a consequence, we're now posting consistently.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're back on it, and we're really excited about

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<v Speaker 3>the traction. And I don't know, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>overstate or over promote, because there's other platforms, threads and

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<v Speaker 3>other things, but Blue Sky seems to be taking off

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<v Speaker 3>in a way that some of us had hoped it

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<v Speaker 3>would or another platform would, and so I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>incredibly important that we get out there. By the way, Doug,

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<v Speaker 3>you know this, man, I'm not shy. It's not a

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<v Speaker 3>political statement.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I went on true Social. I think it was the

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<v Speaker 3>first Democrat or one of the first, certainly, I think

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<v Speaker 3>it was the first governor democratic governor to go on

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<v Speaker 3>true Social. I thought it was important to meet people

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<v Speaker 3>where they are. So it's not a partisan lens which

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<v Speaker 3>I see the world. It's just opportunity to engage people

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<v Speaker 3>and to not be frankly held hostage by the whims

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<v Speaker 3>of one individual who's could change the algorithms or could

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<v Speaker 3>continue to pollute a platform by allowing a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>hate uh and anti Semitism and other things that are

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<v Speaker 3>pretty ubiquitous on X Today.

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<v Speaker 2>Well and for and for this listener also in a

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<v Speaker 2>parallel this question.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, and I appreciate Gavin you going on that and

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<v Speaker 5>going on the shows you've gone on.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, it was interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>Charlemagne the God went on the view and reference the

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<v Speaker 5>fact of what you're doing, and you're not afraid to

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<v Speaker 5>go on the shows. And and I think our listener

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<v Speaker 5>is going to see a lot more of that from

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<v Speaker 5>you as well as we go continue. Correct, whether it

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<v Speaker 5>be podcasts, whether it be TV shows, You're going to

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<v Speaker 5>go on the lines Den per se.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's no more lines Den.

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<v Speaker 5>Because these are all people that have real issues and

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<v Speaker 5>you're there to meet the people. And that's what Charlemagne said,

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<v Speaker 5>that you're going to go meet the people and hear

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<v Speaker 5>are the issues.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I appreciate that he that you reference that, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and I'm grateful to him. And obviously he's

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<v Speaker 3>got you know, next level platform and his podcast is

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<v Speaker 3>blown up and it's you know, it's a must, you

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<v Speaker 3>know for if you're running for tional office. You know

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<v Speaker 3>from the from Vice President herself that was on there

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<v Speaker 3>just a few weeks before the election. Uh, it's important.

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<v Speaker 3>But you can't just you know, run in the blue lane.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't run just in the independent lane. You got

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<v Speaker 3>to run in all lanes. As I said, you've got

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<v Speaker 3>to meet people where they where they are, and you

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<v Speaker 3>can't talk down to people, you can't talk past people.

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<v Speaker 3>And you got to respect people I've ever disagree with them,

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<v Speaker 3>and and so that's been my approach for some time.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why again we went on True Social and

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<v Speaker 3>that's why we did that debate with Ron DeSantis. That's

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<v Speaker 3>why we we you know, we've we've reached out to

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<v Speaker 3>Hannity and I go on Newsmax periodically and uh, and

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<v Speaker 3>I want to do a lot more of that because

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<v Speaker 3>you continue to do what you've done, you'll get what

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<v Speaker 3>you got. And we just can't afford to be talking

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<v Speaker 3>past each other. There's so much at stake, and so

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<v Speaker 3>again it's it's trying to, you know, just to break

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<v Speaker 3>out of those traditional safe places and and and look,

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<v Speaker 3>Blue Sky's a big part of that, just breaking out

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<v Speaker 3>of the sort of the dominance that that is X

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of platforming. So many of us that are

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<v Speaker 3>concerned that, you know, their voices may not be heard

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<v Speaker 3>if on the whims of one individual, they as a

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<v Speaker 3>private owner, can make a determination on one of the

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<v Speaker 3>biggest platforms for civic engagement on the globe. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>really really important that more of us do more things

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<v Speaker 3>than it rate. And so grateful for Charlotte Mane saying that.

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<v Speaker 5>Today and Gavin in twenty five, I do see, are

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<v Speaker 5>you going to be even more active than you already have,

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<v Speaker 5>which has been next level active, but going to you know,

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<v Speaker 5>back in the Central Valley and going up to the

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<v Speaker 5>northern region of Californian and Humboldt County in those areas

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<v Speaker 5>and all over throughout California and do sort of the

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want to say knocking the doors, but town

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<v Speaker 5>halls and just meeting the people.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm pretty proud of the last three weeks I've

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<v Speaker 3>been with three Republican mayors and three parts of the state,

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<v Speaker 3>two of the most conservative and rural parts of California

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<v Speaker 3>and Kerrent County that overwhelmingly went for Donald Trump in Fresno,

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<v Speaker 3>which was a little more mixed, but with the former

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<v Speaker 3>Republican mayor, Ashley Schweringen, and I just think it's incredibly

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<v Speaker 3>important that we meet people again where they are, not

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<v Speaker 3>just from a platform perspective, but get back into communities,

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<v Speaker 3>frankly where where people don't think we care and they

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<v Speaker 3>think we sort of fly over or drive through. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I've been out there a lot, but I

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<v Speaker 3>need to keep coming back and remind people over and

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<v Speaker 3>over and over again that they matter and we care.

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<v Speaker 3>And I can't turn my back on someone just because

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<v Speaker 3>they disagree with me. Doesn't mean I'll stand back. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, watch you know progress or you know the

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<v Speaker 3>twenty first century unraveled either. I mean, we'll push back

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<v Speaker 3>when we need to, but with respect and open hand,

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<v Speaker 3>not a closed fist. So no, you'll be seeing a

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<v Speaker 3>lot more of that, and also trying to get on

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<v Speaker 3>some of these podcasts, not just trying to get on

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<v Speaker 3>this on this podcast, saying yes to a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>the requests and some of the even more and more

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<v Speaker 3>conservative podcast hosts out there that you know, are these

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<v Speaker 3>longer form, one two hour podcasts. So definitely, definitely Doug

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be doing a lot more of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Good Hey, Doug.

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<v Speaker 3>We love hearing from our listeners, and if you have

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<v Speaker 3>any questions or comments, you can email us. Doug. Where

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<v Speaker 3>do you email us?

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<v Speaker 5>It's Politicken at iHeartRadio dot com. That's Politicken at iHeartRadio

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<v Speaker 5>dot com. But Gavin, here's the deal. We want all

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<v Speaker 5>the questions, good, bad, indifferent, ugly to Doug.

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