1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Man, what's hand him? Man? You got more? Shawn Beisma Lynch. 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 2: Doug Hendrickson and Gavin Knewsome. 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 3: And you're listening to politics, you're knowing to be you 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 3: known to be right before Thanksgiving. Every Thanksgiving, the week 5 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 3: of Thanksgiving, we do a series of pardons and commutations 6 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 3: and one of the great gifts no bs like. It's 7 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 3: an amazing, amazing, amazing experience picking up the phone and 8 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 3: making the calls to dozens of people that for years 9 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 3: and years and years have wanted to clean their record 10 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 3: and turn the page in their life and to let 11 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 3: them know that they officially have been pardoned. And so 12 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 3: I was on the phone coincidental to this, this hunter 13 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 3: pardon with I think it was eighteen or so. I 14 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 3: can't remember that number, but it's roughly about eighteen people 15 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: and give them a call. I got hung up on 16 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: a number of times. One person said, fuck you stood. 17 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 3: I was like, Jesus, I was calling to tell you 18 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 3: I parted you. Another person goes, yeah, send me the paperwork. 19 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 3: I'm like, wow, okay, I have no gratitude. 20 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: They don't believe it. 21 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 3: They don't believe it. Other people like, literally, I'll get 22 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 3: a call back because I don't have a block thing said, 23 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 3: is this really you? I thought it was my buddy Bob. 24 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 3: He was pulling my leg. I'm totally embarrassed. 25 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 4: Man, that's amazing. 26 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 3: Other people literally it's other people literally say there's like silence. 27 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm sorry, are you there? It's Kevin. He goes, 28 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 3: if this is really you? And if you're not pulling 29 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 3: my leg? And then there start crying. He's like, and 30 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 3: it's like a maze. And then I'm starting to cry. 31 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 3: I can't even talk because it's so intense. You don't 32 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 3: know what this means to my kids. I can look 33 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 3: at my kids in the eye. For thirty years, I've 34 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 3: made a mistake thirty years ago. I've done everything right, 35 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 3: but I've never felt right. This is the first time 36 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 3: I felt, you know, and like you're like Jesus and 37 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 3: you hang up and you sit there. I said, I 38 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 3: swear I got truth. I'm sitting in my office by myself, 39 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 3: and most folks had left the office. I'm just looking outside, 40 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 3: going I'm the luckiest goddamn son of a bitch in 41 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 3: the world to be able to make these calls and 42 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 3: to have the gift of just a simple decision. Uh 43 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 3: and and and to give people that that that that 44 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 3: second chance in their life. So, man, Marshaun, to your point, 45 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 3: those things matter and you take them very seriously. There's 46 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 3: something reverential about that process. Commutations, about community of sentence, 47 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 3: about a pardon, about cleaning a record. So they just 48 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 3: you got to be careful about politicizing. And I guess 49 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 3: that goes to my concern more broadly, is because I'm 50 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 3: a practitioner in this space. It's not intellectual uh and 51 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 3: it's it's real power uh and it should be used, 52 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 3: you know, sparingly, but it's very powerful. It's just as 53 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 3: a human expression. It's it's one of the no bullshit, 54 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 3: it's I swear I sat there saying, for all the 55 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 3: crap you take in this job, you have moments like 56 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 3: this where where you're talking to human beans and you 57 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 3: feel like you've changed their lives. And to have that 58 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 3: ability to do that so easily, Man, what a gift. 59 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: This rewarding huh, next level brother, some pretty good perks 60 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: to the job being huh yeah. 61 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 3: And that's like that's that's you know, any getting reservations 62 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 3: or using Doug to get a free you know, you know, 63 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 3: get to the bar or something. It ain't about that 64 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 3: brother that. 65 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: He's going for show. There's one dude you don't want 66 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: to see with power, oh ship. I could only imagine 67 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 1: I would. 68 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 5: I wouldn't last very long. More sean it would. It 69 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:35,839 Speaker 5: would last maybe two weeks in the job. 70 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 3: But hey, by the way, I don't want to believe 71 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 3: for everybody, shots for you. 72 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 5: We're keeping this place and open on that long. We're 73 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 5: getting the planes. I don't care if I can't take 74 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 5: your private plane. 75 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: I'm taking it. Let's go. We're going on vacation. 76 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 3: Okay, you guys are talking private planes. I'm Jesus Christ 77 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 3: kind of lives you to live. I'm sitting there, you know, grinding, 78 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 3: doing pardons and pearls every week. By the way, I 79 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: got some good paroles this week. About sixty paroles this week. 80 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 3: I mean people like you, this Doug. I've shared some 81 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 3: of those with you in confidence broad strokes because we 82 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 3: don't we don't break. I don't, I don't use names. 83 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 3: You ain't seen nothing like this group, you know, like 84 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 3: bodies dismembered, the whole thing. He's tough, world marshawn, no bullsh. 85 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 5: I will tell you that right now we don't let 86 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 5: that person out. 87 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 2: We keep that one in. 88 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: Back to the Menendez brothers too, because no bullshit. It's 89 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 3: like it's those are the high profile things and then 90 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 3: the low profile stuff, but the things that people don't 91 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 3: even realize that happened every single goddamn day. Man, human condition, 92 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 3: Doug Man. So we got a bunch of questions this week, 93 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 3: and I know for Marshawn, got a bunch of questions. 94 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: I think, Doug, there are a few coming my way. 95 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 3: But I didn't understand one of these damn questions about 96 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 3: Black Monday. I was like, is this some shopping network thing? 97 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 3: And then I realized it has had nothing to do 98 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 3: with shopping unless you're shopping for a new head coach 99 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 3: or something. What the hell is this Black Monday thing? 100 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 4: Yeah? 101 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 5: Black Monday, Cavin is notoriously the Monday after the last 102 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 5: NFL game in a few weeks, and that is when 103 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 5: the coaches in the gms have not been fired get fired. 104 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 5: It's a brutal day for you know, everybody in the organization. 105 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 5: But these owners now, as you know, these guys want 106 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 5: to win, and so it used to be the head 107 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 5: coaches gyms get a couple of years, two, three, four 108 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:32,119 Speaker 5: years to build a team. 109 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 2: Now sometimes they're hired one year and done. 110 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 5: So you got black Monday probably as media's maybe six 111 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 5: seven eight coaches getting fired. 112 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 2: Four or five gyms get fired, and. 113 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 5: A lot of coaches try to come in and revamp things. 114 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 5: But the interesting part is is you know these owners 115 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 5: looking for a quick fix. You're looking for leaders, you're 116 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 5: looking for CEOs, looking for coaches. 117 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 2: More than a they don't, they don't work out. They fail. 118 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 5: There's a lot of number twos out there and not 119 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 5: a lot of number ones who they fail A lot. 120 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 5: A lot of these coaches fail, a lot of the 121 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 5: gms fail. 122 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: With a year to get an understanding it is, and 123 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: you come into a fucked up position. How is that 124 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: a fail? 125 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 4: Thank you? I'm with you. 126 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: You don't have it. You don't have it. You don't 127 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: even had a time to fail. 128 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 5: Because you have You have owners that don't really know 129 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 5: the sport and they want to win right away and 130 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 5: they don't they don't need patience. 131 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: Who haven't won a Super Bowl? Which team well. 132 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 5: Other than lately case and uh, I don't know who 133 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 5: else is wanted to be says Casey Leady. 134 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: I said who hasn't. I mean, it's teams that ain't 135 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: even you fear me. 136 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 2: No, it's a it's a it's a brutal thing. 137 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: They've been going through this for forever. 138 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 3: Jets are a prime example. This man, you get rid 139 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 3: of the coach in the middle of the year, and 140 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 3: then they keep losing, losing, losing. The pressure on that 141 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 3: how about the pressure on him on Johnson as the 142 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 3: owner of the Jets after what more losing seasons than 143 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 3: any other franchise the last decade or so. 144 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 5: Well, it's interesting, it's interesting question, Gavin, whoever asked that? 145 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 5: And I do want to parallel back to you quickly, 146 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 5: because if you look about a lot of these guys 147 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 5: that get these jobs, new coaches and new gms, they 148 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 5: fail for a couple of reasons. One is, yes, as 149 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 5: more Shawn's point, the team's not very good, it's tough 150 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 5: to build it back quickly. But they also fail because 151 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 5: they're afraid to make decisions and they're afraid to really 152 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 5: be that person. And so do you find the same 153 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 5: thing in politics? Do you see mayors or governors that 154 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,679 Speaker 5: come in that kind of afraid to lead. I've always 155 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 5: admired what you've done, You're right, wrong and different. You're 156 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 5: going to do something and stand by it. But do 157 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 5: you see a lot of people in your industry that 158 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 5: get that number one job and then they don't deliver? Oh? 159 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think it has I can't help but 160 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 3: thinking about and forgive me sort of fixated on the 161 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 3: Jets and the context that some of their struggles over 162 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 3: the last many years, predating even Rogers. But it's interesting 163 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 3: in the context your question because I think about the 164 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 3: times you don't make decisions or when those decisions have 165 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 3: consequences as it relates to people that are on your 166 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 3: team that have outsized influence on that decision making. So 167 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 3: even the owner of a team, even the head coach 168 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 3: of a team, sometimes doesn't have that ability to make 169 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 3: those decision And I think about, honestly, the impact of 170 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 3: some of the decisions that you wonder are being made 171 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 3: by the GM or the owner of the Jets, or 172 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 3: by their quarterback, and how you balance that and the 173 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 3: consequences of indecision or decision that you outsource to a superstar. 174 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 3: Think about Lebron. You think about some of the most 175 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 3: high profile and prolific leaders on teams and a lot 176 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 3: of owners you think they have the real control, but 177 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 3: a lot of that's outsourced to the folks that are 178 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 3: out there on the field. And honestly, I think about 179 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 3: that in the context of politics as well, and how 180 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 3: you sort of balance all of those things. And you know, 181 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 3: our fields not just a board of directors of one 182 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 3: hundred and twenty people that I don't pick even if 183 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 3: I did, how do you get consensus with one hundred 184 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 3: and twenty people on the legislature and then you forty 185 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 3: million people that you quote unquote serve that pay your salary. 186 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 3: So it's a different construct, but it's the same I 187 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 3: think fundamental A challenge is balancing that decision making in 188 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 3: the context of how that decision making ultimately will be 189 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 3: implemented and absorbed. 190 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 2: We'll also look at Marshawn. I know, we talked about it. 191 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 5: You know, when John Schneider traded for Marshawn, it revamped 192 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 5: the entire organization. They get to they win a Super Bowl, 193 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 5: get back to another one. There's only one other team 194 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 5: at that time that was interested to trading from Marshawn. 195 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 5: That was Green Bay and a lot had to do 196 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 5: with Aaron Rodgers. Okay, because the Packers never traded for people. 197 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 5: Back then, they still didn't trade for it. But the 198 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 5: point I'm trying to make is that you had one team, Gavin, 199 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 5: that was willing to jump out and say, you know 200 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 5: what I'm going not there's no chance on his talent, 201 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 5: but there's a chance on making it all work together. 202 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: But they did it. Look what happened to that team. 203 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 5: But a lot of these gms come in and are 204 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 5: afraid to trade up in the draft. They're afraid to 205 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 5: get a fragian, they're afraid to take a gamble on 206 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 5: a player. And you can't win if you don't do that. 207 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 5: You can't sit back and say I'm gonna take my 208 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 5: eight picks and not go into free agency and not 209 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 5: gamble and do something. 210 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: You have to be able to will and to roll 211 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 2: the dice a little. 212 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 3: Bit pretty you think about it with the Niners, that 213 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 3: with Trey, with Lance and the first round draft choice, 214 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 3: and you know, and and so far their GM is 215 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 3: living to fight another day. And some you're to your point, 216 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 3: you know, you know, you get you know, miss one 217 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 3: hundred percent of the shots you don't take. But the 218 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 3: flip side of that, as well as some sort of 219 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 3: legendary screw ups as it relates to some of those 220 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 3: picks or draft moving up in a draft, uh, and 221 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 3: then falling flat on your face and you destroy your 222 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 3: franchise for a decade because you skipped someone of you know, 223 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 3: epic talent to get someone no talent. So look, decisions 224 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 3: are tough, leadership's tough, but the buck stops. And it's 225 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 3: I think the buck in this case is next level 226 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 3: to your point about these owners, now, I mean they're 227 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 3: you know this is I mean, these guys always get 228 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 3: what they want in their private lives and they expect 229 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 3: when they own a franchise that they should be able 230 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 3: to get that on the field. Uh. And uh, it's 231 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 3: it's that's this short termism is not good for the 232 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: sport uh and obviously not good for these franchises. 233 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: Well, I got a question a few Marshawn. 234 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 5: This has comes from Stacy and she wants some relationship 235 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 5: advice for Marshawn. 236 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: Oh, the only one who lives does not Mary. 237 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 2: So here's the question. 238 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 5: I am currently in a long distant relationship with a 239 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 5: guy in Oakland, I live in New Hampshire. Whenever I 240 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 5: text him first, which is rare, he takes sometimes hours 241 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 5: to respond and tells me is busy with his work 242 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 5: on the flip side. When he texts me first, he 243 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 5: expects me to drop everything I'm doing and immediately talk 244 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 5: to him or else he becomes our rate. 245 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: What do I do about the double standard? Give me 246 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 2: some counsel. 247 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 5: That's to you, Marshawn, Oh gosh, this. 248 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 3: Relationship advice? 249 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 4: You fear me. 250 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: I'm not even I think it's just because they're in 251 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: front of town. And I mean if he said he 252 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: was busy, I mean, if he ain't gave you no 253 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: other reason to not believe that, then yeah, I mean 254 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: you got to take it for face value. But you know, 255 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: women got something called up women's intuition that they be 256 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: learning with. And if that's what you feel, maybe you 257 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: gotta make your decision. And we were just talking about decision. 258 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: Gotta make it and you gotta stick with it. 259 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 5: And by the way, maybe she can move out of 260 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 5: New Hampshire. I've been there a couple of times. It's 261 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 5: not a lot of New Hampshire's unbelievable. 262 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 3: Do you by the way, Hey, no, no, you don't 263 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 3: go hate on New Hampshire. Man, what a beautiful damn state. 264 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: I mean long distant relationships. I mean, you know, I 265 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: mean they can be hard. They can be hard, for sure. 266 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: You gotta have a lot of trust, a lot of trust, 267 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And a lot of faith. 268 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: A lot of trust and a lot of faith. 269 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 5: So Stacey, we're gonna send you some Southwest vouchers to 270 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 5: get you out to oklahmore often. 271 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: And then you see your boyfriend and I do it good. 272 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 3: I mean, this guy, this is a marshaun. I appreciate 273 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 3: your relationship advice, brother, that's all sound. 274 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 5: I got one here for you, Gavin, from a concerned teacher. 275 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 5: And we know about teachers. 276 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,359 Speaker 4: We got kids, Yes, sir. 277 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 2: Mister Newsom, I am a teacher. 278 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 5: I've read that the Department of Education is possibly going 279 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 5: to be demolished. Thinking of the effects this will have. 280 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 5: As a CTA union member, should we be proactive and 281 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 5: learn more about what this will mean for teachers. I've 282 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 5: also heard about detention centers and knowing the students, my students' families, 283 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 5: I worry. I know it's a lot on the teacher's minds, 284 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 5: how funds and SPED will be affected. 285 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 2: What can we do now? Any advice? 286 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I think the questions pretty grounded in 287 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 3: legit concern. You got Vince McMahon's ex wife who's going 288 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 3: to be running federally the Department of Education. 289 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 5: Wait, the wrestlers, the wrestlers at the Vince McMahon dooc. 290 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 5: I just saw the WW guy. His wife's running the 291 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 5: Department of educator. 292 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 3: By the way, she's no dummy, So I just want 293 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 3: to want to say this, she's not and I don't 294 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 3: say that as a pejorative. She ran the small business aministration. 295 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 3: She's extraordinarily bright, but I don't know of any real 296 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 3: history she has on public education. And the guy that 297 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 3: is appointing her the future president wants to eliminate the 298 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 3: Department of Education. He ran on it. So the question 299 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 3: is he's going to follow through on his campaign promise. 300 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 3: My concern is less about her and more about his 301 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 3: intention to do exactly what our listener is concerned about. 302 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 3: But that said, it's such a small margin in Congress. 303 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 3: You got to get congressional approval. We just want a 304 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 3: big race out here in California. It's it's literally a 305 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 3: two vote margin now in the House of Representatives in Congress, 306 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 3: and so I don't know that they're ever going to 307 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 3: pass something that completely vanalyzes the Department of Education. But 308 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 3: we've gamed it out California. It's I think, and don't 309 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 3: quote me, but I think it's seven point nine billion 310 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 3: dollars that's at risk if they eliminated all the federal 311 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 3: funds come into the states, so it's not inconsequential. But 312 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 3: you know, I can't imagine they'll be able to pull 313 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 3: it off. But we're preparing for the worst case scenario, 314 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: and we'll have the backs of our damn teachers. Uh, 315 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 3: don't don't you worry. 316 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 2: Good appreciate that, Gavin. I'll let her know. 317 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: Uh. 318 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 5: Question, Marshawn, this is for you, Uh coming out Black Friday, 319 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 5: Cyber Monday's coming up. We've loved the Besmo products back 320 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 5: in the day. What are you looking forward for Christmas? 321 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 5: Any Bestmo stuff we can buy? And what do you 322 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 5: recommend that's on your Haliday list? 323 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: Man? Damn, I'm I'm pretty simple when it comes to 324 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: that kind of shit. 325 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 5: Eh, don't buy the Oro Ran I can tell you that. 326 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 5: Don't don't do that. 327 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: She just lost a sponsor, Dan, you loss of sponsors. 328 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: When I'm living some simple I'm gonna have to think 329 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: about that. 330 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 5: All right, Well we'll bring that back in the next episode. 331 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 5: What do you want, Gavin? Tell me what do you want? 332 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 4: Avin? 333 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 3: You know what I was humbled yesterday. There's a guy, 334 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 3: unbelievable guy that's that's worked in three administrations, who had 335 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 3: his birthday yesterday, John, and we in our office and 336 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 3: John's a rock star in every way, shape or form. 337 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 3: He's he's a young man with special needs. And I said, 338 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 3: what are you hoping to get for your birthday? And 339 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 3: he literally lit up and got emotional because he said, 340 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 3: I think I'm going to get what I want. I 341 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 3: was like, what is it, John, This is amazing. He says, 342 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 3: black socks and white socks, and I was like, damn. 343 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 3: And it was like it was like he was touched 344 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 3: just by the question. He was so excited. I asked, 345 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 3: and he said, that's what he really wants and he 346 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 3: thinks he's going to get that, And it made me 347 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 3: just adjust all my I literally was thinking, like I'm 348 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 3: going through, you know, the list of what all the 349 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 3: kids want and everything else. I got to meet John. 350 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 5: Man, get his info. We'll get him some beast smote 351 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 5: socks right now out to him. The care package I'm 352 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 5: that serious. 353 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 3: Yeah no, But you know what, that's just a different 354 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 3: level of you know, I mean in terms of just 355 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 3: setting your own expectations of life and having a framework 356 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 3: of gratitude. Uh. And this is a guy just filled 357 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 3: with joy all time and fills our damn office with joy. 358 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 3: He worked for the Schwarzenegger administration. He's still with us. 359 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 3: And I joked, I said, in a couple of years, man, 360 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 3: you're gonna work for another governor. He's like yeah, I'm 361 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 3: like Jesus, we come and go. And John's still with us. 362 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 3: He does the mailroom at the office, and he's a 363 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 3: rock star. And it's a good life lesson. So my 364 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 3: Christmas list just got pared down, though I do want 365 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 3: some shoes. Man, you guys are good giving me shoes 366 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 3: side size twelve, twelve and a half, that's all. So 367 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 3: I love every time you guys get me with Snoop 368 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 3: gets those shoes. Those you know we love you. 369 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 5: Only guys know that like you grew between the twelve 370 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 5: and twelve and a half. They think either you're twelve 371 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 5: or twelve and a half. 372 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 3: I know I'm both. It depends on the damn make 373 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 3: of the shoe. Just saying though I do like those 374 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 3: Snoop sketchers no bs, thank you Snoop. 375 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 4: They are nice. 376 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 5: So Govin got another list your question here from Grace, 377 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 5: and her question is thank you for all that you're 378 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 5: doing on this podcast and engaging with listeners. 379 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 2: Gavin. 380 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 5: In twenty three, you are someone claiming to be you 381 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 5: made your first and last public post on Blue Sky. 382 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 5: Oh lash forward to now there are a number of 383 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 5: people in your comments section begging you to come back. 384 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 2: Will you please appease them? 385 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 3: You can't even make this up. We literally now are 386 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 3: doing simultaneous posts on X and Blue Sky, which is interesting. 387 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 3: And I love the question timely question because there I mean, 388 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 3: you know, by any objective measure, the toxicity on X 389 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 3: is next level and there's not a lot of confidence 390 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 3: is going to get any better, as the editorial side 391 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 3: of it is completely just gone, and a lot of 392 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 3: vile and terrible things have said on that platform, and 393 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 3: Blue Sky has provided an alternative that everybody's been hoping 394 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 3: for for some time. This even pre dates you know, 395 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 3: I must taking over Twitter and and moving it to X. 396 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 3: This notion that you just don't want one platform to 397 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 3: dominate and Blue Skuy's literally getting all this renewed attention 398 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 3: and traction, and as a consequence, we're now posting consistently. 399 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 3: So we're back on it, and we're really excited about 400 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 3: the traction. And I don't know, I don't want to 401 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 3: overstate or over promote, because there's other platforms, threads and 402 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 3: other things, but Blue Sky seems to be taking off 403 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 3: in a way that some of us had hoped it 404 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 3: would or another platform would, and so I think it's 405 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 3: incredibly important that we get out there. By the way, Doug, 406 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 3: you know this, man, I'm not shy. It's not a 407 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 3: political statement. 408 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 5: You know. 409 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 3: I went on true Social. I think it was the 410 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 3: first Democrat or one of the first, certainly, I think 411 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 3: it was the first governor democratic governor to go on 412 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 3: true Social. I thought it was important to meet people 413 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 3: where they are. So it's not a partisan lens which 414 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 3: I see the world. It's just opportunity to engage people 415 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 3: and to not be frankly held hostage by the whims 416 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 3: of one individual who's could change the algorithms or could 417 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 3: continue to pollute a platform by allowing a lot of 418 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 3: hate uh and anti Semitism and other things that are 419 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 3: pretty ubiquitous on X Today. 420 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 2: Well and for and for this listener also in a 421 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: parallel this question. 422 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 5: Uh, and I appreciate Gavin you going on that and 423 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 5: going on the shows you've gone on. 424 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 2: Uh, it was interesting. 425 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 5: Charlemagne the God went on the view and reference the 426 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 5: fact of what you're doing, and you're not afraid to 427 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 5: go on the shows. And and I think our listener 428 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 5: is going to see a lot more of that from 429 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 5: you as well as we go continue. Correct, whether it 430 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 5: be podcasts, whether it be TV shows, You're going to 431 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 5: go on the lines Den per se. 432 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: But it's no more lines Den. 433 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 5: Because these are all people that have real issues and 434 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 5: you're there to meet the people. And that's what Charlemagne said, 435 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 5: that you're going to go meet the people and hear 436 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 5: are the issues. 437 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate that he that you reference that, and 438 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 3: you know, and I'm grateful to him. And obviously he's 439 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 3: got you know, next level platform and his podcast is 440 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 3: blown up and it's you know, it's a must, you 441 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 3: know for if you're running for tional office. You know 442 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 3: from the from Vice President herself that was on there 443 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 3: just a few weeks before the election. Uh, it's important. 444 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 3: But you can't just you know, run in the blue lane. 445 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 3: You can't run just in the independent lane. You got 446 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 3: to run in all lanes. As I said, you've got 447 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 3: to meet people where they where they are, and you 448 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 3: can't talk down to people, you can't talk past people. 449 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 3: And you got to respect people I've ever disagree with them, 450 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 3: and and so that's been my approach for some time. 451 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 3: And that's why again we went on True Social and 452 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 3: that's why we did that debate with Ron DeSantis. That's 453 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 3: why we we you know, we've we've reached out to 454 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 3: Hannity and I go on Newsmax periodically and uh, and 455 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 3: I want to do a lot more of that because 456 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 3: you continue to do what you've done, you'll get what 457 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 3: you got. And we just can't afford to be talking 458 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 3: past each other. There's so much at stake, and so 459 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 3: again it's it's trying to, you know, just to break 460 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 3: out of those traditional safe places and and and look, 461 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 3: Blue Sky's a big part of that, just breaking out 462 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 3: of the sort of the dominance that that is X 463 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 3: in terms of platforming. So many of us that are 464 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 3: concerned that, you know, their voices may not be heard 465 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 3: if on the whims of one individual, they as a 466 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 3: private owner, can make a determination on one of the 467 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 3: biggest platforms for civic engagement on the globe. So it's 468 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 3: really really important that more of us do more things 469 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 3: than it rate. And so grateful for Charlotte Mane saying that. 470 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 5: Today and Gavin in twenty five, I do see, are 471 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 5: you going to be even more active than you already have, 472 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 5: which has been next level active, but going to you know, 473 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 5: back in the Central Valley and going up to the 474 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 5: northern region of Californian and Humboldt County in those areas 475 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 5: and all over throughout California and do sort of the 476 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 5: I don't want to say knocking the doors, but town 477 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 5: halls and just meeting the people. 478 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 3: Well, I'm pretty proud of the last three weeks I've 479 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 3: been with three Republican mayors and three parts of the state, 480 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 3: two of the most conservative and rural parts of California 481 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 3: and Kerrent County that overwhelmingly went for Donald Trump in Fresno, 482 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 3: which was a little more mixed, but with the former 483 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 3: Republican mayor, Ashley Schweringen, and I just think it's incredibly 484 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 3: important that we meet people again where they are, not 485 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 3: just from a platform perspective, but get back into communities, 486 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 3: frankly where where people don't think we care and they 487 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 3: think we sort of fly over or drive through. And 488 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 3: you know, I've been out there a lot, but I 489 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 3: need to keep coming back and remind people over and 490 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 3: over and over again that they matter and we care. 491 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 3: And I can't turn my back on someone just because 492 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 3: they disagree with me. Doesn't mean I'll stand back. And 493 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 3: you know, watch you know progress or you know the 494 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 3: twenty first century unraveled either. I mean, we'll push back 495 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 3: when we need to, but with respect and open hand, 496 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 3: not a closed fist. So no, you'll be seeing a 497 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 3: lot more of that, and also trying to get on 498 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 3: some of these podcasts, not just trying to get on 499 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 3: this on this podcast, saying yes to a lot of 500 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 3: the requests and some of the even more and more 501 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 3: conservative podcast hosts out there that you know, are these 502 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 3: longer form, one two hour podcasts. So definitely, definitely Doug 503 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 3: gonna be doing a lot more of that. 504 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 2: Good Hey, Doug. 505 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 3: We love hearing from our listeners, and if you have 506 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 3: any questions or comments, you can email us. Doug. 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