1 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: Good eating America, and welcome to this special edition of 2 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: Jess and Who's No Noise. I'm your host, John Solomon 3 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: reporting Kids Always from Washington, d C. My co host 4 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: Amana Head, Well, she is out in the field covering 5 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: President Trump and the White House inside the poultice. So 6 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna fly solo with me. But we've got a 7 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: lot to dive into. I promised you at the beginning 8 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 1: year we'd spend a lot of time educating you on 9 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: what I believe is one of the most devastating and 10 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: silent crimes in America. The reason it's silent is by 11 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: the time you know you're a victim, you may already 12 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: beat hundreds of thousands of dollars upside down in debt 13 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: and you may not even own your home. 14 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. You know what this is. 15 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: It's called title fraud. It's a crime the FBI calls 16 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: house deealing. If you own a home, you could already 17 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: be at risk because the cybercrimes, cyber criminals carrying this out, 18 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: they want your most valuable asset, not your gold, not 19 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: your crypto coins, not your checkbook, They want the equity 20 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: in your home. Now it's an amazing fact, total US 21 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: home equity now stands at thirty two trillion dollars, and 22 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: that makes it highly vulnerable to theft without proper protection. 23 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: And it just takes one forged document file that your 24 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: local recorder's office, who, by the way, can't do anything 25 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: about it, and suddenly someone else owns your home on paper. 26 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: Imagine finding out your home is no longer in your 27 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: name and scammers that have taken out loans, drained your 28 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: equity and left you to deal with that fallout, that mess. 29 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 2: It's only it's not only home owners too. 30 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: If you're looking to buy your own property land, it 31 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: could turn out you are buying it from someone who 32 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: doesn't even own it. 33 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: That's going on right now. 34 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: Title pirates sending emails out asking potential buyers to buy land. 35 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: That they don't even know. 36 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: County recorders across America have also begun to sound the 37 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: alarm as the number of victimizing homeowners has been surging. 38 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: In Portage County, OHI, I'll get a load of this. 39 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: Just a few weeks ago, the county recorder express concern 40 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: that most homeowners don't know how vulnerable they are. 41 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 2: She described the. 42 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,839 Speaker 1: End goal of home title thieves simply this way, they 43 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 1: just really want cash. They're trying to get cash off 44 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: your equity in your home. That is why we add 45 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: Justin News have been partnering throughout this year with Home 46 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: Titled Lock because they offer an exclusive million dollar Triple 47 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: Locked protection giving you twenty four to seven monitoring of 48 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: your homes title urgent alerts if there's any ever any 49 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: change on the paperwork, and if title fraud should ever 50 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: cure God forbid, their US based festoration team will spend 51 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: up to one million dollars to fix the fraud and 52 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: restore your title. Let's say, really good deal. We'll talk 53 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: more about that throughout the show tonight. This evening, we're 54 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: going to hear from former FBI agents, an Emmy Award 55 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: winning reporter and consumer advocate, as well as a former title. 56 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: Thief who served thirteen years in prison for this heinous crime. 57 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: We also hear from a real victim of title thief. 58 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: That's really important too. I want you to from the 59 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: front lines what it feels like when you go through 60 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: that whrror. So stay with us throughout the hour. By 61 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: the end of this hour, you're going to be a 62 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: lot better informed and know a little bit more about 63 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: how to protect your home and your equity before it's 64 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: too late. Now to get us started on this very 65 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: busy night, We've got a great guess. He's an Emmy 66 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: and multi award winning news anchor and investigative reporter. 67 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 2: Guy close to my heart. 68 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: He's recently been spending a lot of time researching this 69 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: growing crime of home title theft. So you're the consumer, 70 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: you're the homeowner, could be better protect Joining us right now, 71 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: my good friend John Summer, John, welcome back to the show. 72 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 3: John, So great to be with you as always. And yeah, 73 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 3: this is a really important subject and your lead into 74 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 3: this really pretty much nailed it. This is a crime 75 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 3: that is growing in leaps and bounds. You use the 76 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 3: term titled pirates, which I just love. You know, it's 77 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: house stealing or deep theft, but title pirates pretty much 78 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 3: describes it because it's such a stealth crime that most 79 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 3: people don't know that they got hit and tell us 80 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 3: way too late. 81 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: Yeah it is, and by that time you have a 82 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: lot of digging out to do. 83 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: It's months. 84 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: I talked to someone last week almost eighteen months before 85 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: they could get right, and they didn't have hometown of 86 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: lock and so they had to go through the process 87 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: of hiring a lawyer and going to court. It's really 88 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: a painful process, and we want to make sure people 89 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: avoid that. 90 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: Now, I want to start with something that's the motive. 91 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: So all right, we're going to meet someone who did 92 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: this for a time and went to prison for at 93 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: Matt Cox. But at the end of the day, you know, 94 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: people think, well, I got my cash in the bank, 95 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: I got to cover my ATM pin when I go 96 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: put my PIN number in to get some kind of 97 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,799 Speaker 1: cash out of the bank. But the biggest, most lucrative 98 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: thing we own is our home. It is the prize 99 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: or prizes for a fraud sturb And it seems like 100 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: the cyber criminals are getting more and more anxious to 101 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: tap that very big asset you own in your portfolio. 102 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, most people, and especially right now the stark market 103 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,679 Speaker 3: kind of going back and forth, and people are concerned 104 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 3: about their investments and their four oh one care or whatever, 105 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 3: or maybe gold or bitcoin. But most people don't realize 106 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 3: John that their biggest investment almost always is going to 107 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 3: be in their home and their property, and they don't 108 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 3: understand just how vulnerable they are to having that property 109 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: stolen and John, it isn't like they're stealing the structure 110 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: of the home or whatever. They steal the deed or 111 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 3: the titles of the property. And they can do this 112 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 3: very easily online right now and with artificial intelligence, and 113 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 3: you can get a notary stamp. It's so easy to do, 114 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 3: and that once you have that property in your name, 115 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 3: then you can leverage it. Sometimes they'll sell the property, 116 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 3: but more than likely they're going to take out loans 117 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 3: or multiple loans. And you'll talk to Matt Cox, he 118 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 3: was a past master at doing this. But it can 119 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 3: be done by any anybody anywhere in the world, and 120 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 3: there are criminal enterprises all around the world. I can 121 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 3: find out anything about you or anybody any of your 122 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 3: listeners right now and viewers and be able to take 123 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 3: that title of that property. And it doesn't have to 124 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 3: have a structure on it. It could be open land. 125 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 3: Here on the central coast of California. Our biggest problem, 126 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 3: because I deal with the local District Attorney's office, is 127 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 3: stealing just open land and because people aren't watching out 128 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 3: for it, you know, they don't pay attention to it, 129 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: or the cabin in the woods, or maybe you have 130 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 3: an Airbnb. 131 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 4: It's all up for grounds. 132 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is remarkable. 133 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: You may mentioned something I think is really at the 134 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: heart of why this crime has exploded, and that is 135 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: our digital footprint is everybody, everywhere, Everything about us is 136 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: out and open. That's the consequence of the Internet era, 137 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: of the digital age, social media age. So it doesn't 138 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: take long for somebody to go find one of those 139 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: deeds that are online ford your signature because they found 140 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: it somewhere else, and then submit it. And there's a 141 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: real weak spot in this security system because it turns 142 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: out the county recorder, the person who get the they 143 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: have no power to say that's not you or stop. 144 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: You're really kind of vulnerable because the best person who 145 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: can protect you has no legal power to stop the transaction. 146 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 3: Right, You're absolutely right, John, Because if all the paperwork 147 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 3: looks paperwork looks proper, you know, if everything looks like 148 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 3: it's accurate and there's a notary stamp on it and 149 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 3: so on, they can't ask you if it might be fraudulent. 150 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 3: They have to pass it, and they do, and there's 151 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 3: no way to stop it from happening. And nowadays, you know, 152 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 3: it can even happen online. You don't even have to 153 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 3: go down to the county clerk's office. 154 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just so easy for the for the criminal 155 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: and for us unless you're checking every day. Really, there's 156 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: only is it, like you can send a letter saying, hey, 157 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: county recorder, don't transfer my home to anyone unless I 158 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: tell you you have to check every day to see 159 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: if someone's doing it, and no one has time. But 160 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: we're busy. 161 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 3: Nobody, nobody's going to do that, John, I mean, and 162 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 3: it's the only way, right. You just can't have time 163 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 3: to do it. You have to have some sort of 164 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 3: a system to be able to monitor that title or 165 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 3: that deed to your property. And you know, it's just 166 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 3: simply not practical for you to be able to go 167 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 3: down to the clerk's office. And even if you did, 168 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 3: the minute that you leave, somebody could steal it. It 169 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 3: can happen that fast, and. 170 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: It does just crazy. It's really mind numbing. 171 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: The ingenuity and entrepreneurialism of these criminals is pretty impressive, 172 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: but it comes at our expense. I want to turn 173 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: to some real life examples because they're piling up. Every 174 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: time I do a clip switch, a clip search, or 175 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 1: a Google search, I see another case down I think 176 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: it was in Lehigh Valley in Florida, right in the 177 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: Tampa area. There was a woman she ended up trying 178 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: to grab two houses. I think she ultimately got convicted 179 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: by a jury. But her mentality was finders keepers. If 180 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 1: I get it, it was out of luck. 181 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 4: That's I know that case. 182 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 3: And yeah, she she would just drive around, you know, 183 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 3: the area and looked for properties that maybe somebody wasn't 184 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 3: living in even though they you know, they they actually 185 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 3: occupied the home, but they might have another home someplace house, 186 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 3: and so they're not there watching over it. 187 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 4: One of the ones that was most. 188 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 3: Interesting in the Tampa Bay area as a couple there, 189 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 3: Larry and dream of Bill be and they were actually 190 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 3: they bought a home and they were doing a lot 191 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 3: of construction on it, so they weren't living in the 192 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 3: property at that particular point. As they were doing all 193 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 3: the renovation and so on. Somebody went in they noticed 194 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 3: that no one was there occupying it the whole time, 195 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 3: and they stole the deed to the property and sold 196 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 3: it to somebody else without the Bilbies even knowing it, 197 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 3: and they had to go through the court system. John, 198 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 3: this is the biggest problem because you have to hire 199 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 3: an attorney and then you have to go through the 200 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 3: court system, and we know how nasty that can be sometimes, 201 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 3: and it might take years to be able to reclaim 202 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 3: what is actually your rightful property and your deed. And 203 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 3: the only way to prevent that is to be able 204 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 3: to have some sort of a system to be able 205 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: to protect you, just like you would with a credit card, 206 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 3: or maybe you have a ring camera on your home 207 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 3: so you can see who's coming and going and so on. 208 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 3: But as we said before, for most people, this is 209 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 3: their biggest asset, and most people don't even think about 210 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 3: protecting it. 211 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, the last time we talked about our titles probably 212 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 1: when we bought the house and then we just move on. 213 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: We don't think about it, but there's about it every day. Yeah, 214 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: it's crazy. You mentioned security cameras, and I've seen a 215 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: couple of recent stories where the first time a homeowners, 216 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: maybe it was a vacation home if I've remember correctly, 217 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: the first time they realized they were troubles. 218 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 2: Even before they got the notice of making there were. 219 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: Strange people walking around their property like they owned it. 220 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 1: That's literally what could happen here, right? The people who 221 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: buying it might not even know that they've been duped. 222 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: So you've got the buyer and the person who owns 223 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: the home both being victimized. The nature of these criminals 224 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: and how crafted they are is kind of jaw dropping. 225 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 3: And that's just it, because the only victims aren't just 226 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 3: the people that own the property. It's the people that 227 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 3: have been duped into buying the property because they think 228 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 3: that it's free and clear. And now you bought a 229 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 3: house and then all of a sudden you find out 230 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 3: that that was not the rightful owner that you bought 231 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 3: it from in the first place. And then there's the banks, 232 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 3: the loan companies and all of these entities as well. 233 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 4: That everybody is a victim. It's not just the owner 234 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 4: of the property. 235 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. Now you said the key. 236 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: And then this is exactly so with the cops and 237 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: the prosecutors, the lawyers have all told us is to 238 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 1: have some form of a system that's constantly monitoring your title, 239 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: alerts you and jumps into action. You've been doing great 240 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: consumer reporting for decades, you know how important is to 241 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: protect consumers. You've made lots of great journalism to make 242 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: us smarter as consumers tell us a little bit title lock. 243 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: What does it do? How does it give us that 244 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: peace of mind? What is it doing day in and 245 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:15,599 Speaker 1: day out that I don't have to worry about doing that? 246 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned a company, home title Lock, and they 247 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 3: have a website, home title lock dot com. 248 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 4: Go on there. 249 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 3: I mean, I encourage your followers to do their own 250 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 3: due diligence and just go on the side see the 251 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 3: stories that are on there. Understand that everybody that owns 252 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 3: a piece of property is vulnerable. And the only way 253 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 3: that you're going to really secure that deed or that 254 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 3: title to the property is to be able to have 255 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 3: a system that number one monitors the property, which you 256 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 3: can't practically do. Number two alerts you if there's something 257 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 3: fishy going on and home title Lock, Hey, I got 258 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 3: a great story, John. My wife and I just put 259 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 3: our home up for sale and last week I got 260 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 3: an alert because I'm a member of Home title Lock, 261 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 3: and I what the heck is this? 262 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 4: You know, because our home is on the market. 263 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 3: Well, what they alerted me to is that the property 264 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 3: was put on the MLS at the multiple listing service. 265 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 3: Now that's not somebody stealing the property, but it's home 266 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 3: title lock, alerting me to something that is going on 267 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 3: with my property, my home. I was grateful for that 268 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 3: because I didn't even think that they did this as 269 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 3: part of the service. So they monitor, they alert, and 270 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 3: then if for some reason that title gets transferred to 271 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 3: somebody else, they will work with you to restore that 272 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 3: title back to your proper name and avoid having to 273 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 3: go through the court system hiring an attorney, which can 274 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 3: be extremely defensive. They will give you up to a 275 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 3: million dollars worth of service to be able to put 276 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 3: that title back into your rightful dame. It's an incredible company. 277 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 3: They are the pioneers. They invented this system of monitoring, 278 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 3: and I just encourage everyone to go onto the website 279 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 3: and take a look at it and educate yourself to 280 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 3: how big of a problem this is. 281 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 2: They really are pioneers. 282 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: One last question before we head out to the break, John, 283 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: You've been watching this for some time. Every prosecutor I've 284 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: talked to, every FBI, and I talked to every cop 285 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: I talked to, said this is a trend line that's 286 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: been going up. Any doubt in your mind, it's just 287 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: going to get more and more popular for the criminals to. 288 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 3: Do, so easy to do, John, And in fact, you're 289 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 3: going to talk to Art Fitzenmeier, who was a retired 290 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 3: FBI agent. He'll toudg you tell you about this, as 291 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 3: well as Matthew Cox, who spent some time in the 292 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 3: Big House because it was so easy to do. And 293 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 3: then I think you're also going to have a victim 294 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 3: of this as well, so your viewer will have a 295 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 3: the length and breadth of what this crime is. It 296 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 3: is stealth, it's huge and everybody should be aware of it. 297 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. I agree. 298 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: It's something I didn't even know existed a few years ago, 299 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: but it is becoming more one of us did. Yeah, 300 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: it's so remarkable down Summer. You do such amazing work. 301 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: You're a great journalist. Great opportunity to have you on 302 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: the top of the show today. Thanks for joining us. 303 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 4: Thanks so much, John, really really appreciate it. 304 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 2: I always enjoyed talking to a great reporter like you. 305 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: All right, folks, after the break, we're going to get 306 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: an interview with a man who used to commit this 307 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: crime to explain how he did it and how you 308 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: can protet yourself and by the way, how easy it 309 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: is to victimize people. But While we're in the break, 310 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: I want you to do me a favorite. 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It's homebedlelock dot 329 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: com promo code jtnthon. 330 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 2: We'll be right, Matthew. 331 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: Welcome back to America to this special justin News report. 332 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: We are taking a deep dive into the crime of 333 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: title theft and joining us to discuss more about that 334 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: is someone. 335 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 2: Who used to commit this crime. 336 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: He's now reformed, and he's now leading all of us 337 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: to a better understanding how it's done. 338 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 2: Our good friend, Matthew Cox, Matthew, welcome back. 339 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 5: Thank you for having me. 340 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 2: All right. 341 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: I think spent about thirteen years in prison. You did 342 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: about fifty five million dollars of this sort of home 343 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: title theft. Thought it was pretty easy for you, right 344 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: to pull this off. Most people were pretty unsuspecting. 345 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 5: Right, Oh, absolutely, it's extremely easy crime to commit. 346 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're gone by the time someone like me 347 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: finds out my house has been stolen from me, My 348 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: paperwork has been changed, my equity's gone. You're in some 349 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: other counties, some other country by the time, right. 350 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, By the time by the time the homeowner is notified, 351 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 5: I've already cleared the bank accounts and I'm in another state, 352 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 5: or like you said, maybe I'm on vacation in another country, 353 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 5: probably onto my next victim. 354 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. That's the amazing thing about it. 355 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: The gap from the time a victim knows that they've 356 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,719 Speaker 1: been victimized is so long that the bad guys are 357 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: way down the road. I want to talk a little 358 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: bit about the reasons why this has grown so much, 359 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: particularly in the last decade. I guess the digital era 360 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: brings us a lot of conveniences, but it also brings 361 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: those conveniences to cyber thieves. All of our records are 362 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: online now, so it's just easier to assume some one's identity, right. 363 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 5: Yes, much easier now than when I was doing it 364 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 5: twenty years ago. And access to public records, not not 365 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 5: only people's personal information, but public records is much more 366 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 5: accessible now because now I can I can go sit 367 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 5: in my local coffee shop and use their WiFi, and 368 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 5: I can go online and search titles. Whereas twenty years ago, 369 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 5: I had to physically go downtown to public records, I 370 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 5: had to go into the building. I had to go 371 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 5: into the office and search those records. You know in person, 372 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 5: you're on video camera. I mean, that's those are all 373 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 5: vulnerable situations. But now I can. I can order of 374 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 5: Vanela latte and search your search the records and create 375 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 5: a warranty, deed or whatever documents I need to create 376 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 5: to steal a home or transfer the title, and I 377 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 5: can do it right in the coffee shop. 378 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: It's pretty amazing, I just said, thinking out of how 379 00:18:58,720 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 1: easy it isn't convenient, and. 380 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 2: It really does scare you. 381 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: I want to go through some of the misconceptions that 382 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: people have because a lot of people think, well, I 383 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: don't have this problem. I bought title insurance when I 384 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: bought my house. Title insurance doesn't protect you the moment 385 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: that the title has been transferred to you, right. 386 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 5: Right, So it title insurance covers you up to the 387 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 5: moment you purchase your house. All title insurance is saying is, hey, 388 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 5: there are no leans on your home other than maybe 389 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 5: the mortgage that you're taking out from your bank. That 390 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 5: you have a clean lean. So let's say two days later, 391 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 5: I can go downtown and I can file a transfer. 392 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 5: I could transfer your title, you know, create a new title, 393 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 5: or I could satisfy the mortgage on your house. There's 394 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 5: a number of things I can do. And unless you're 395 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 5: your titles being monitored, you're not notified of those things. 396 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 397 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 5: So yeah, so you're you're and just like you said, 398 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 5: which from a title theest perspective is that's that's a 399 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 5: great piece of misinformation where people think, oh, well, I've 400 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 5: got insurance on my title. 401 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 2: No, you don't have. 402 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 5: Insurance on your title. 403 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 404 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 5: So, as a result, they feel safe. Right, you walk 405 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 5: out of the title company, you feel safe. You're not 406 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 5: saying you're driving around in a vehicle that has no 407 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 5: insurance on it. 408 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, such a great point. 409 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, fake fake feeling of security, the sugar pill phenomenon 410 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: as they called it. All right, walk us through because 411 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: you were in the real estate industry which allowed you 412 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: to kind of carouse around and find the perfect victim 413 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: every time when you're driving around saying I think I 414 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: might do that house. Walk us through how you would 415 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: process what sort of house you were looking for, and 416 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: how you would carry it out. 417 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 5: So if the house you know, it's funny. I've worked 418 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 5: with a home title lock and we we had shot 419 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 5: a commercial one time and we were driving through the 420 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 5: neighborhood through a neighborhood. They were like, which neighborhood. I 421 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 5: was like, pick a neighborhood. If the houses are livable, 422 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 5: then I absolutely they're absolutely vulnerable to this crime. I 423 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 5: could drive through your neighborhood, any middle class, lower middle class, 424 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 5: upper middle class neighborhood, and I could drive through that 425 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 5: neighborhood and I could find a house, write the address down. 426 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 5: House looks like it's in good shape. I can then 427 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 5: turn around and go online. I can find the title 428 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 5: to that house. I can see if there's any lians 429 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 5: on the house. I can see if there's any you know, 430 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 5: such as a mortgage. I can then create a satisfaction 431 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 5: of mortgage. Satisfy the mortgage. So I've now created the 432 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 5: equity in the house. A lot of people think, well, 433 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 5: wait a second, I have a mortgage, so I don't 434 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,239 Speaker 5: really I have a mortgage. My house is worth four 435 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 5: hundred thousand. I have a mortgage for three hundred and 436 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,719 Speaker 5: ninety thousand dollars. I don't have any equity. I'll create 437 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 5: the equity. I'll file that a one page document called 438 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 5: a satisfaction of mortgage or a release of lian, get 439 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 5: it notarized with a fake notary. File that that satisfaction 440 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 5: and that mortgage disappears as far as public records is concerned. 441 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 5: I can then either I can either create a fake 442 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 5: driver's license or identification card in the homeowner's name, and 443 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 5: I can borrow against that property. Or I can simply 444 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 5: create a new warranty deed and file that in public records, 445 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 5: which takes the title out of the true homeowner's name 446 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 5: places it into whatever identity's name I want could be 447 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 5: a synthetic identity, could be a stolen identity, and then 448 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 5: I could put that house on the market and sell it, 449 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 5: or I could try and sell it myself. I could 450 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 5: actually get someone from let's say a real estate agent, 451 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 5: have them list it, or I could list it myself, 452 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 5: and then I can sell that property. 453 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 4: There are actually. 454 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 5: Companies right now online that will buy your house unseen. 455 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 5: They send out what's called an appraiser that does a 456 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 5: it's a field appraiser where they basically do what's called 457 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 5: a drive by appraisal. They'll simply look at the outside 458 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 5: of the house. They'll give you kind of a low 459 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 5: ball offer. But myself, as a home title thief, I 460 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 5: don't care if they're giving me a low ball offer. 461 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 5: If they're saying, hey, house is worth four hundred thousand, 462 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 5: we're going to give you three hundred and sixty thousand. 463 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 5: Is that okay with you? Of course it's okay with me. 464 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 2: That's all free money for you, right, yeah. 465 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 5: Right, think about it too. I can go online. I 466 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 5: can open a bank account, I can close the loans 467 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 5: or the mortgages online. Almost most states allow you to 468 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 5: do a remote closing. So it's alway with a remote notary, 469 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 5: so I can go online. I don't even have to 470 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 5: go to the title company. I then give them my 471 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 5: wiring instructions, have them wire the funds from the title 472 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 5: company's account into the bank account of my choosing. I 473 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 5: then just have to transfer that money again or remove 474 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 5: the money. I could buy bitcoin, I could buy any 475 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 5: number of precious metals. There's many ways to launder money. Yeah, 476 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 5: So it's just it's so easy. And the thing about 477 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 5: it is that everybody involved in these transactions is doing 478 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 5: what they do on a daily basis. I'm not asking 479 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,959 Speaker 5: anybody to do anything special for me, right, I'm not 480 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 5: asking the title company to do can you do this 481 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 5: special thing? Or can you break the law or been 482 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 5: the law? No, everybody's just doing what they do. 483 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 2: That's amazing. They don't think anything's wrong. Yeah, it's the 484 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 2: perfect crime. It really is. 485 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: If you're a criminal, the process is just perfectly set 486 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: up for you to succeed and be gone before anyone 487 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: knows that the scams occurred. 488 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 2: I want to talk about one ear. 489 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: We haven't talked about this before, but I'm seeing a 490 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: lot more, a lot more of us have second homes, 491 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: or they're renting them out on Airbnb or vrbo. That 492 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: sort of home does that sort of increase your vulnerability 493 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: if you're. 494 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 2: Renting your home out a lot. 495 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 5: It certainly makes it a lot easier. It makes it 496 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 5: a lot easier. Not that a normal homeowner isn't in jeopardy, 497 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 5: because they certainly are. But if you have an Airbnb 498 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 5: or you have a rental property, then it's much easier 499 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 5: for me because I can really really do a lot 500 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 5: more with that property. For instance, if it's an Airbnb 501 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 5: and I rent the Airbnb for two weeks, I can 502 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 5: now sell that property multiple times, or I could borrow 503 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 5: multiple mortgages on the property, and I can get a 504 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 5: lot more of a percentage of the home. That the 505 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 5: house is worth four hundred thousand, I could probably get 506 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 5: a loan for close to four hundred thousand, and I 507 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 5: can get that loan from multiple banks. Because I'm now 508 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 5: in possession of the home. It means that the bank 509 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 5: themselves can order an appraisal and I can let that 510 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 5: appraiser into the house to walk around the house. Wow, 511 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 5: And I've I've gotten up to six mortgages on a 512 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 5: home before, so I've literally a single home because because 513 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 5: once again public records is this messed up. They will 514 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 5: simply allow you to continue to record mortgages on a home. 515 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 5: And there's nobody in public records that's saying, you know 516 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 5: that this doesn't look right like that. You know, nobody's saying, 517 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 5: wait a second, this is there's six first more, there's 518 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 5: six mortgages on this house. Nobody's doing that. They simply 519 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 5: record the documents. If it's notarized and signed by a 520 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 5: by an employee of the bank, they record the documents. 521 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 5: They can't not record it. They have to buy law. 522 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've had a couple of the clerk sign there 523 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: is powerless. We'd love to stop it, but we're powerless. 524 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,719 Speaker 1: We just have to process it. It's it's quite remarkable. 525 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: Now we only got a few seconds left. If home 526 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 1: title lock had been on the homes that you were 527 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: hitting back in the day, you would have been thwart 528 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: it pretty quickly, right. 529 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, that I'd say home, I would say home home 530 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 5: title lock. It would be an absolute the worst nightmare 531 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 5: for a title thief because the homeowner gets notified and 532 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 5: now I can be arrested in the middle of the crime. 533 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 5: I don't have the time that I'm relying on and 534 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 5: the anonymity that I'm relying on, because now the homeowner 535 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 5: and law enforcement are looking for me. They know what's happening. 536 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 5: And that's, like I said, that's that's someone like myself's 537 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 5: worst nightmare. 538 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 2: Real time alert is the key to stopping this crime. 539 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: Matthew Cox, I'm so glad you're one of the most 540 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: entrepreneurial people I've ever met. I'm so glad you're using 541 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: your entrepreneurialism to help protect us. Now, what a great interview, 542 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 1: and I appreciate your time. 543 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 5: Thank you, Thank you for having me. 544 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, great, great conversation. As always, my friend. 545 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: All right, folks, everybody, we're gonna take a qui commercial. 546 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: Mak will be right back after a few messages. But 547 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: while we're doing that, do me a favor. Go to 548 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: hometitle lock dot com right now. Use our promo code 549 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: JT N thirty. 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And if fraud happens, the US 558 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: based experts at hometitel lock will spend up a million dollars. 559 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 2: Let's fixt to fraud. 560 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: You store your title gets your piece of mind right back. 561 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 1: There's gonna be no cost to you, so don't wait. 562 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: Get that piece of mind with a free title history 563 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: report in thirty days of free protection now at hometitle 564 00:27:58,600 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: lock dot com. 565 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 2: Promo code ATNF will be right back. 566 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,959 Speaker 1: Welcome back in America to have very special edition of 567 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: Justin News, No Noise. We're taking a look at the 568 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: crime of home title theft. We want to make sure 569 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: everybody who watches this show is educated. The FBI calls 570 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: it house deealing, and who better to break down how 571 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: law enforcement deals with it than a former FBI agent himself. 572 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: Our good friend Art Fitzdemeier joins us now. Art, welcome 573 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: back to the show. 574 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 6: John. It's great to be back and listening to you. 575 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 6: I don't know if you need me anymore you've figure out. 576 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 6: I hope your viewers listen to you as well as 577 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 6: listen to us. 578 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: We're so blessed to have people with your experience and 579 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: the great work you've done serving your country over these 580 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: many decades. 581 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 2: This is an old crime, right, It. 582 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,239 Speaker 1: Was back in the sixties, seventies and eighties, but it 583 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: was harder to do back then. Then all of a 584 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: sudden we moved to the digital era. Cyber criminals, man, 585 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: is like one of the easiest crimes to pull off. 586 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 6: Right, that's exactly right. I've been with home title lock. 587 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 6: Now I'm in my ninth year, but you know I 588 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 6: experienced in my early career as a FBI. Actually, I 589 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 6: hate to tell you, I was back in the nineteen 590 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 6: seventies in Chicago. There were early versions of stealing homes, 591 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 6: mostly from the elderly, and so when I saw this company, 592 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 6: the first thing I thought of was number one, I'm vulnerable. 593 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 6: And so when I talked to them, I told them 594 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 6: I wanted to do one thing. One I wanted to 595 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 6: be part of the company, and number two, I wanted 596 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 6: to get the word out that everybody owns a house 597 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 6: has a problem if they do not watch the equity 598 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 6: in their home and if they don't do it, nobody's 599 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 6: going to do it for them. And that's why I 600 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 6: think home title lock is so important. You know, they 601 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 6: don't understand that in this day and age, with AI 602 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 6: and photoshop, any competent digital thief can download a copy 603 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 6: of their title or their deed and they it's so 604 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 6: simple to forge a new one and file it in 605 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 6: the count of Recorder's office. The kund of Recorder has 606 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 6: to file the document, it's presented and filled out. They're 607 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 6: required by alaw to do that, so it's easy for 608 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 6: them to get into a position where they can take 609 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 6: out loans on your house. And once that happens, then 610 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 6: you're in a world of hurt. I've seen people that 611 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 6: have had to fight this on their own because they 612 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 6: were not aware of it until after the money was missing. 613 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 6: They'd have to hire an attorney. And this happened early 614 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,719 Speaker 6: on in my experience here at home title family on 615 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 6: the West Coast. Their house title got forged. They lost 616 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 6: hundreds of thousands of dollars in equity. They had to 617 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 6: hire an attorney to go to court. Took them over 618 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 6: two years to finally be heard by a judge. The 619 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 6: judge finally ordered the house back in their name, but 620 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 6: it cost them so much and attorney's fees that they 621 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 6: had to sell the house to pay their attorney. I mean, 622 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 6: that's how crazy it gets. You just don't understand. If 623 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 6: you don't watch it, nobody else is going to do 624 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 6: it for you. And that's what home Title lock does. Listen, 625 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 6: we have the most sophisticated software out there as far 626 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 6: as I'm concerned. We're probably the biggest in the field 627 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 6: as well. But our software will watch your title in 628 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 6: a national database twenty four to seven. There's no day off, 629 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 6: you know, if you go on vacation, we're still going 630 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 6: to watch it for you. And with our million dollar 631 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 6: triple locked protection, if for some reason something touches your title. 632 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 6: Our restoration people, these are great people, by the way. 633 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 6: They're all platinum quality as far as I'm concerned. They 634 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 6: will work with you and we'll spend up to a 635 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 6: million dollars to put that title back in your name. 636 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 6: And that's a comfort that you can't possibly buy do 637 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 6: it yourself. It just doesn't work that way. So if 638 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 6: you go to home title dot com and you sign 639 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 6: up right now, you're going to get a copy of 640 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 6: your title. You'll know that the title is pure, that 641 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 6: it's in the name is supposed to be in, whether 642 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 6: it's your name or in a trust name. That's what 643 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 6: it's all about. And then our software will watch it 644 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 6: and we'll notify you immediately if there's an issue. Now, 645 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 6: if you've done something like a home equity loaner or 646 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 6: something that like, that will notify you that as well. 647 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 6: Anything it touches your title, you're going to hear from 648 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 6: us about it, and then you'll be told if you 649 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 6: don't recognize the document, then you should call us right 650 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 6: away and we will step into it and we'll make 651 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 6: your whole It's really that simple. It's for pennies a day. 652 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 6: I mean, I just when I look at all of 653 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 6: the stuff that's going on now. There's recently an article 654 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 6: by the FBI in Boston about New England and they 655 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 6: cover I think Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Vermont and Connecticut and 656 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 6: Rhode Island, and they have had an outbreak actually of 657 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 6: title theft. They can't tell you exactly how many, quite frankly, 658 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 6: because it's all covered in a general category known as 659 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 6: mortgage theft, right, and so in fact, I talked to 660 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 6: them yesterday. They can't give me an exact number, but 661 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 6: they're telling you it's on the upswing. And this is today, 662 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 6: not last week or last year. It's going on now. 663 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 6: And so people need to understand that as they're going 664 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 6: to bed tonight, they'll sleep better if they know we're 665 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 6: watching their most important asset, their property. We will do 666 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,959 Speaker 6: it for pennies a day, and you will be surprised 667 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 6: that you know how comfortable you're going to feel when 668 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 6: you have this little bit of surety in your life. 669 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 6: You know, people years ago I encouraged it and UH 670 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 6: got involved in a situation where there was a family 671 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 6: that their house burned down. They had they had fire coverage, 672 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 6: and the guy next door said, yeah, I said, I 673 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 6: had most of my equity stolen and I and I 674 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 6: said to the guy whose house was still burned, I said, 675 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 6: what would you feel better? Would your coverage company UH 676 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 6: called you the night before and said, look that uh 677 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 6: howell on your stove is going to catch fire and 678 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 6: cause the grease fire and burn your house down. Would 679 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 6: have been nice to get that notice. And the guy 680 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 6: next door, if he had had home tidle locked, he'd 681 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 6: have gotten that notice. We will tell you right away. 682 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 6: If something disturbs your title in any way, shape or form, 683 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 6: we would have been able to stop him from having 684 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,399 Speaker 6: that problem. So you know, it's it's one of those 685 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 6: things where it's a degree of the exposure that you 686 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 6: have and your exposure is diminished pretty much zero if 687 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 6: you have home title locked. And even if nothing touches 688 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 6: your title, you know we're there. But if something does 689 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 6: touch your title, that's when it's really special. That's right, 690 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 6: because our restoration people will make you hole again almost overnight. 691 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 6: I mean, they're that good at it. And we do 692 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 6: this all the time. We are the experts, up. 693 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: To a million dollars trying to help a single person 694 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: get their home back. That's such an amazing thing. You 695 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: said something very profound, Art, and that is that if 696 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: you own a home, you have a problem. 697 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 2: You have an Achilles heel. 698 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 1: If you don't have home title lock, it's not worth 699 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: taking the risk. You don't want to be that guy 700 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: after the fire, and the fire in your case is 701 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: your home theft. 702 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 2: It's such an important thing to remember. Art. 703 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: You've served your country for a very long time, and 704 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: I want to thank you for that great service. At 705 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 1: the FAT and also for helping us understand this crime 706 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: and get us better protected. 707 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 2: We sure appreciate it. 708 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 6: Well, thank you, because you're a good advocate for the homeowner, 709 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 6: not us. I mean, the homeowner needs to listen to you. 710 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 6: Your viewers better pay attention because you're telling them something 711 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 6: that if they don't know, it's about time they've figured 712 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 6: it out, So they should go to home title lock 713 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 6: dot com. Right now, John Solomon sends. 714 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 1: You that is great. Your wisdom is profound. We love 715 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: you a lot. Thanks for joining us today. Good to 716 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: have you back on. 717 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,359 Speaker 2: All right, folks, we've heard from a lot today, right 718 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 2: You've heard from an investigative journalist, a guy who. 719 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: Used to commit this crime, and the FBI agent used 720 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: to sell these crimes. Next, you're going to hear the 721 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: story of a real victim of title fraud, someone who 722 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: actually went through the process. Find out how home Title 723 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: Lock helped her. We'll be right back after these messages. 724 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 7: I decided, actually I'm going to put home title Lock 725 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 7: on my mom's home. 726 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 2: Four months or so after. 727 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 7: She passed, I got a notification from home Title Lock. 728 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 7: It notified me that there had been a change to 729 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 7: the deed that's why we acted so quick. Got it 730 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 7: strained out. 731 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 8: Let my dad know that somebody has stolen your property. 732 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 8: He advised me that he had taken out home title 733 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 8: Lock about eight months earlier. 734 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 2: We logged into home. 735 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 8: Title Lock, he had five alerts. Immediately we contacted them 736 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 8: and within about. 737 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 4: Two weeks indeed was put back in my parents' name. 738 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,879 Speaker 8: A lot of people own property. Home title theft will 739 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 8: happen to somebody. Don't let it be you. 740 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: Now, real people talking about what happened when they went 741 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 1: to home title lock and got their home or their 742 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 1: loved ones home protected. 743 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:31,280 Speaker 2: That's important. 744 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: If you've got nobly relative, this is a great way 745 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,919 Speaker 1: to help protect them. Welcome back to this special edition 746 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: of Justin Who's No Noise. 747 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 2: I'm John Solomon. 748 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 1: Tonight, we're partnering with Home Title Lock, one of our 749 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: great friends, to put the spotlight on one of the fastest 750 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: growing crimes in America. The FBI calls at house stealing. 751 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: It's better known as title fraud in the legal profession. 752 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: We're about to bring on a real victim of this crime. 753 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: Joining us now, Jennifer Washington. Jennifer, thanks for joining us tonight. 754 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 9: Thank you for having me, all. 755 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: Right, this is a really important story because I think 756 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 1: this is a trend line we're seeing in the crime itself. 757 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 1: How did you find out one of your homes wasn't 758 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: suddenly legally yours anymore? 759 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 9: Well, in dealing with the postal mailing, I received mailings 760 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:18,879 Speaker 9: for new ownership, and at first I'm like, okay, no big, 761 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 9: you know, nothing to be alarmed about. But then they continued, 762 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 9: and then I also received notification from a company asking 763 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 9: me to pay for a copy of the new title 764 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 9: in the in the new home ownership. So that's what 765 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 9: alerted me to begin with. 766 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 2: Wow. 767 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: So before that, there was no sign right, no one 768 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: at your door, no notification from the county or police. 769 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 2: You just get. 770 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 1: Something to the mail saying, hey, congratulates it, and someone 771 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 1: else owns your home, right, correct? 772 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 9: And I started getting notifications of you know, like the 773 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 9: mailers that say new residents, and then it had names 774 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 9: on it, and I'm like, wait a minute, that's not correct. 775 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 9: So I decided to look further into it. 776 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 1: My goodness, all right, that moment you get that notification, 777 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: I can't imagine you get that gut suspicious feeling you 778 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: know something's not right. What are you feeling at that moment, 779 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 1: what's your next step? 780 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,280 Speaker 9: Well, I was caught off guard. 781 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 2: I was. 782 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 9: I didn't know how to feel. I didn't know if 783 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 9: it was some type of error or if something really 784 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 9: had happened. But then I actually called the County Recorder's 785 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 9: office and they notified me of the change, so that 786 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 9: I went on the website, I also seen it. I 787 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 9: went over to the office and I actually paid for 788 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 9: the title transfer and it was a quick claim deed 789 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 9: that was done. So at that point I asked the 790 00:39:53,560 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 9: record what type of protections do they have against fraud? 791 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 9: Because this was incorrect, This was never done. It was fraudulent. 792 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,959 Speaker 1: And here's the one thing I think most people don't 793 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: know that County Recorder even if they want to help you, 794 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 1: they can't help it. They have no legal power to 795 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,280 Speaker 1: give you back your house of your title. Right, You're 796 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:17,919 Speaker 1: stuck with them. 797 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 9: I definitely said it's not They're responsibilit to investigate fraud. 798 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 9: So it was my burden to bear at that point. 799 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 1: That is a burden, all right, So what do you 800 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: do next? I'll walk us through the journey of how 801 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,240 Speaker 1: you got your house back Eventually. 802 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 9: Well, in dealing with the bills. I did notice that 803 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 9: they own title lock, so I called them. I tried to. 804 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 9: I googled them to see what their company was, because 805 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,479 Speaker 9: I had no idea what it was. And this all 806 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 9: comes from taking over the bills for the family home 807 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 9: due to the family, so I wasn't for sure what 808 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,839 Speaker 9: I was looking at. But then once I called them, 809 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 9: they explained what their company provided and I advised them, hey, 810 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:17,360 Speaker 9: I was dealing with the situation exactly what they protect 811 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 9: consumers from. I had advised them that there had been 812 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 9: a quick claim deed done fraudulently on the family home, 813 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 9: and they gave it to the appropriate department. Took off 814 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 9: from that point on. 815 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,439 Speaker 2: Amazing. Boy. 816 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 1: So you go from first having that feeling in the 817 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,879 Speaker 1: pit of your stomach, I just lost my home. Something 818 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: bad's happened to me. Then you discover that because of 819 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: a relative, you had some of the hometit of lock protection. 820 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: That's got to be quite a whipsaw you're going through. 821 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 9: Well still at that point, I was nervous, Yeah, because 822 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 9: I didn't have any information on the company, and I 823 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 9: knew between all of the existing family members, we did 824 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 9: not have the money to deal with this in a 825 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 9: court setting. I know it would have taken attorneys and 826 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 9: you know time and just months on end to fight 827 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 9: something like this on your own, and. 828 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,879 Speaker 1: Then you get the house back. Home title lot comes 829 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 1: to exactly as advertised, right. 830 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:26,439 Speaker 9: They came back. I had no attorneys fees. They notified 831 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 9: me step by step the process. They hired an attorney. 832 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 9: The attorney took care of it. I couldn't recommend a 833 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,879 Speaker 9: better company in this situation. 834 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, so important. 835 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 1: If you're someone sitting tonight with and you haven't checked 836 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 1: your tide in a long time, you don't have home 837 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 1: title Lock insurance, or you have an elderly person you 838 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 1: care for and you love and they put their whole 839 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: life into having that dream home, what would you tell 840 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:55,720 Speaker 1: them to do tonight? 841 00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 9: Well, if you have the time to constantly monitor your title. 842 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 9: But in today's society, you're dealing with the home, the kids, 843 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 9: the family, you know, life's situations. So if you're in 844 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 9: a situation where you're not able to monitor that home 845 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 9: Title Lock can do it for you for a very 846 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 9: small monthly fee. 847 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that burglar, that cyber carimer, they're counting on 848 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,760 Speaker 1: that you are too busy to out check your title. 849 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 1: That's why home title Lock fills the gap for us. 850 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: What a great conversation, Jennifer. Your story is amazing. It's 851 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 1: inspiring for people. You just don't want to wake up 852 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,919 Speaker 1: one day and be in the circumstance that you find 853 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 1: yourself in. Great to have you on the show again. 854 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,799 Speaker 9: Thanks for joining us, Thank you for having me. 855 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love the conversation so great. All right, folks, 856 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 1: what an amazing conversation. Someone who really went through it, 857 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,880 Speaker 1: real thing, didn't know they even had the insurance protection, 858 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:52,479 Speaker 1: but they began. 859 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 2: But that's what home Title Lock does you. 860 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna take one more break out, one 861 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 1: more conversation to go. But before you do that, get 862 00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 1: a little bit of homework asignment for you. Go to 863 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 1: home title lock dot com and get that peace of 864 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: mind with a free title history report in thirty days 865 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,400 Speaker 1: of free protection. Now do you go to hometitle lock 866 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 1: dot com. You're gonna use a very special promo code 867 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,720 Speaker 1: we have JTN thirty. You can also put your camera 868 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,399 Speaker 1: at that QR code that'll get you going. But one 869 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 1: more time, Home title lock dot Com promo code JTN 870 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,239 Speaker 1: thirty go do it during the commercial break. Don't give 871 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 1: yourself a moment more torment. We'll be right back after 872 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 1: these messages. Welcome back to America. Just a few more 873 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 1: minutes left before we head into the weekend. You've heard 874 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 1: some testimonies about home title lock and how it can 875 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 1: protect your home from the crime of home title theft. 876 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 1: And who better to talk more about that than the 877 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,360 Speaker 1: title theft education expert from Home Title Lotch. She's one 878 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 1: of our good friends, Natalie Domingez. 879 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 2: Natalie, Welcome back. 880 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 10: Hi John. Always great to be with you. 881 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 2: Guys. 882 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 1: We love this conversation because I know somewhere tonight someone's 883 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 1: going to get protected and it's going to make a difference. 884 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 1: And that's why we do this special It's very exciting 885 00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 1: for us. I think one of the things that I'm 886 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 1: struck by and now a lot of people, I think 887 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 1: don't realize if you don't have this protection, you don't 888 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: have this service, and your home. 889 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 2: Is suddenly pulled out from undon. 890 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,799 Speaker 1: Your equity is taken, it is really difficult to go 891 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: back and do it. We're talking months and maybe even years. 892 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 2: Correct. 893 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 10: Absolutely, I feel like a majority of the stories. You know, 894 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:20,879 Speaker 10: part of my job is to make sure that I'm 895 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 10: up to date with the news. We know what's going on, 896 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 10: we know what to look for protect against almost every 897 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:31,359 Speaker 10: story I see. You know, restoration can take years versus months, right, 898 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 10: and that's why we do what we do at Home 899 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 10: Title loc We have a network of legal experts around 900 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 10: the country. Every state, every municipality has different rules and 901 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 10: laws and ways that you go about handling restoration. And 902 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 10: every case can be so different. Right. It can be 903 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 10: just someone steals your title. It can be that they 904 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 10: sold the home that they have already gone through wire transfers, 905 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 10: that the bank is coming after the homeowner. I mean, 906 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 10: we've even seen homeowners lose their homes to the bank 907 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 10: because the bank as frankly better lawyers. And it's very, 908 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,839 Speaker 10: very sad. So that's why we do what we do. 909 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,719 Speaker 2: Boy, it's disheartening to hear. 910 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 1: We have a repertoire of things that we do already 911 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 1: to protect our home. We got the home security system, 912 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:17,439 Speaker 1: you got your fire and prevention loss insurance. You've got 913 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,720 Speaker 1: your hurricane insurance if you live in Florida, earthquake insurance 914 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 1: if you live in California. A lot of people don't realize, 915 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 1: and I think they thought maybe when I bought my 916 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 1: title insurance. I bought my house, I'm protected. But without that, 917 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,880 Speaker 1: this crime is completely unprotected. Right Without home titleock, you 918 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,800 Speaker 1: don't really have a way of protecting yourself unless you 919 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 1: get to call the county clerk every single day, right. 920 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 10: Yeah, absolutely, And I think that's the hard part about 921 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,800 Speaker 10: the misconception about title insurance, right, And we're not insurance. 922 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,399 Speaker 10: We aren't going to just you know, throw some money 923 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 10: at you and say, okay, you're on your own. The 924 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,400 Speaker 10: best part about our system, in my personal opinion, is 925 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 10: our restoration. We are the propriet proprietary you know, makers 926 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 10: of the software, but we really are the only company 927 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,360 Speaker 10: that does restoration. We are with a homeowner every step 928 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 10: of the way, taking care of it for them, getting 929 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,439 Speaker 10: the home back in their name, fighting the good fight 930 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 10: so that the homeowner isn't on their own, because if 931 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 10: they are on their own, you know, they're spending their 932 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 10: money on legal fees. We've seen new stories where people 933 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,760 Speaker 10: can't even do that because they can't afford the legal fees. 934 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 10: You know, they're going through years and years of litigation 935 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 10: with their own personal life going on, They're getting sued 936 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,719 Speaker 10: by other companies and just it's this really scary thing 937 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 10: of being on your own, especially if you are more vulnerable. 938 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,359 Speaker 10: If you're an elderly, you know, person living on your own, 939 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 10: you don't have people to fight for you, and a caretaker, 940 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 10: you know, takes advantage of you if you just don't 941 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 10: have family or friends to count on. We want to 942 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,480 Speaker 10: make sure that people are not on their own. And 943 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,880 Speaker 10: one of the most important things too about our monitoring 944 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:52,160 Speaker 10: system is we monitor the property, not the person. You know, 945 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 10: for things like security cameras, you got eyes on the home, 946 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 10: for alarm systems. You know, you're watching to see if 947 00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 10: someone's going to try to break into your home. No 948 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,880 Speaker 10: one's watching their title. No one's going down to the 949 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,800 Speaker 10: county office once a week and looking to make sure 950 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:08,480 Speaker 10: their title is still there. And some counties in across 951 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,760 Speaker 10: the country do have their own kind of monitoring systems, 952 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 10: but it's less than ten percent of the United States. 953 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 10: Not every county, not every town has one. We monitor 954 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 10: everyone and anyone that is a property right to make 955 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 10: sure that they are taken care of land home. 956 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,760 Speaker 1: Today, Matt Cox brought something in that I had heard before. 957 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 1: But you know, we're all a lot more people renting 958 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,480 Speaker 1: out their home. Part of the year, maybe an Airbnb 959 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 1: or vrbo. Those people are even more vulnerable. You've got 960 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 1: these all covered, don't you. 961 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 962 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,160 Speaker 10: Absolutely, if you are a property, if not. If you 963 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 10: are a property, if you have a property, we monitor 964 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 10: the property. Whether it's vacant land, whether you have multiple 965 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 10: residences on the property, whether it's under a trust and 966 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,360 Speaker 10: not under your name. It doesn't matter. If it's a 967 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,920 Speaker 10: property and it has a personal number, we can monitor. 968 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,440 Speaker 2: So very important. And time to detection. That's another thing 969 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 2: we heard from Art. 970 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,439 Speaker 1: The quicker you detected, the quicker you get this back. 971 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 1: That's the key to what you guys do. You're on 972 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,840 Speaker 1: top of it. The second that notification occurs, we're ready 973 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:10,880 Speaker 1: in the protection business. 974 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:11,760 Speaker 2: That's so important. 975 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 1: Natal, I want to thank you for the partnership, all 976 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 1: the great people you make available for these conversations, yourself included. 977 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,799 Speaker 1: This is a really important education process. We're so lucky 978 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,720 Speaker 1: to have this partnership with hometitle lock. One more time, folks, 979 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,279 Speaker 1: go to hometitle lock before we start your weekend home 980 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,239 Speaker 1: title lock dot com and you use the promo code 981 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 1: JTN thirty. You're going to get a free look at 982 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,320 Speaker 1: your title history reports. You can see if your title 983 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 1: is in your name. 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