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Speaker 1: But we got another story coming your way.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh, yeah we do. Am I the jerk for

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Speaker 2: deciding I won't let my stepbrother move in with me

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Speaker 2: once I get my own place.

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Speaker 1: Step Bros. Great movie Stepbros. Great short films.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Well this comes from ghost red Blood, who says, I

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Speaker 2: am female seventeen going on eighteen soon and i am

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Speaker 2: seventeen going on eighteen and I'm about to graduate school soon. Congrats.

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Speaker 2: My stepbrother, who is twenty seven going on twenty eight,

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Speaker 2: has been living with his has been living with his

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Speaker 2: were in a serious relationship not too long after, maybe

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Speaker 2: twenty three, so he's never really lived outside of the home.

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Speaker 2: This is kind of written in a run on sentence,

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Speaker 2: so bear with me here, ladies, gentlemen, why.

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Speaker 1: Do you have to say going on? You are always

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Speaker 1: going on the other age? Yeah, I feel like I

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Speaker 2: He also refuses to get his license because he thinks

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Speaker 2: it's too much efforts, too much efforts.

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Speaker 3: Mo intelligent people don't have license? Who the dude off

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Speaker 3: a big bang theory? Sheldon doesn't have a driver's license.

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Speaker 2: That is a fictional character.

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Speaker 3: Sir Albert Einstein didn't have one.

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Speaker 1: There were like horse and carriages when he.

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Speaker 3: Was no he was in the thirties bro forties.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Einstein is not in this story, nor Hoppenheimer. So

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Speaker 2: I've been saving up, oh and sorry real quick, so

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Speaker 2: to finish out the TLDR. This stepbrother is wanting to

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Speaker 2: trying to save money to move out to at least

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Speaker 2: When his grandmother passed away, who he apparently wasn't really

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Speaker 2: when he was about twenty five, but instead of using

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Speaker 2: all his money and buys online that he could have

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Speaker 2: bought later on. He also doesn't do anything around the

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Speaker 1: Whooh is is this guy the Hulk?

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Speaker 2: So our rooms also have sliding door closets, and one

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Speaker 2: broke off of My mom asked him if he could

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Speaker 2: I just got like off of his track. Okay, but

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Speaker 2: he refused to do that. Two weeks later he still

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Speaker 2: He also speaks to my mom really rudely. My mom

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Speaker 2: her own home. Kick him out. He's twenty eight. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: She can't talk to me or my stepdad privately without

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Speaker 2: a few months ago, my mom told him he needed

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Speaker 2: you could see through them. Oh my god, who is

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Speaker 2: this guy? He sounds awful. He refused and ignored my mom,

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Speaker 2: and it wasn't until months later that my mom said

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Speaker 1: You know those pajamas that like allow you to open

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Speaker 1: up the ass flap, butt flap, the butt flap, you

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Speaker 2: Anyways, let's get back to this story. Also, we got

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Speaker 2: This is literally like child behavior. From a twenty seven

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Speaker 1: This is I mean, he's had multiple instances of child behavior,

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Speaker 2: Before slamming open the door, then going outside and slamming

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Speaker 2: with at my home. Anyway, I've had one beside my

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Speaker 2: And when he got home, I asked him if he

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Speaker 2: I then told him, don't lie to me. I found

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Speaker 1: He obviously hasn't grown up at all.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't do anything. The only jobs he has are

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Speaker 2: to take the bins out and that's it. Unlike me,

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Speaker 2: he who has to feed the cats, chickens, scoop the litter,

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Speaker 2: empty the dishwasher dust, do the eggs, do the.

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Speaker 1: Eggs maybe like chicken eggs the eggs, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And take care of the garden. And my stepbrother doesn't

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Speaker 2: even do his only job of taking out the trash

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Speaker 2: aka himself. That was a common h get him anyway.

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Speaker 2: My mom and stepdad told me that he needs to

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Speaker 2: move out soon, and he said that it's fine and

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Speaker 2: own place. Oh no, I immediately told him, yeah, that

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Speaker 1: Gross, So I can't imagine moving in with this joker.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I feel like he would. He would squat

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Speaker 2: and it would not be a vibe. So to answer,

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Speaker 2: Opie's question, No, you're not a jerk.

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Speaker 3: I am curious on if he ever experienced trauma at

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Speaker 3: a certain age, and like why like why is his

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Speaker 2: Hey, I mean that that's totally a possibility. Lead that

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Speaker 2: a psychiatrist. Dude, Yeah, out of your That is totally

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Speaker 2: fair point and honestly could totally be true. But it's

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Speaker 2: not Op's problem to solve or fix or anything to

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Speaker 2: This guy is so immature all my dad? Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: honest I want to know how big Bro is. I

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Speaker 2: think I think he's beefye. But that's it, ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 2: That's all there is. Where are we at?

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Speaker 3: In three minutes fifty three? I have one more and

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Speaker 3: it's seventeen hundred words.

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Speaker 1: Let's hit it, all right. So, my sixteen year old

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Speaker 2: So I just wanted to throw away account. That's not fun.

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Speaker 1: My forty seven male stepdaughter, who all call Phoebe, lost

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Speaker 1: her dad when she was seven. She remembers him as

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Speaker 1: her hero, and I can try to keep his memory

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Speaker 1: forty five. Female and Phoebe's father were divorced when he

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Speaker 1: passed away. I had met him a few times and

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Speaker 1: always admired how much he loved his daughter. We had

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Speaker 1: I was there to support both Phoebe and my wife.

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Speaker 1: It was a tough time for us all. Phoebe was

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Speaker 1: was surprised when Phoebe started calling me Dad when she

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Speaker 2: I am team op super hard right now, I'll Forpat.

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Speaker 2: As the years went by, Phoebe and I grew closer

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Speaker 2: and learned to navigate our unique family situation. About six

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Speaker 2: months ago, my wife started pulling away. I thought it

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Speaker 2: was just a midlife crisis, but looking back, it was

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Speaker 2: clear signs of infidelity. He had the late work projects,

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Speaker 2: At the same time, I noticed Phoebe more anxious around

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Speaker 1: I tried talking to Phoebe, but she would avoid me

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Speaker 1: That's when I realized something was really wrong. I snooped

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Speaker 1: on our shared iPad and found messages from someone named Fiona.

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Speaker 1: Turns out Fiona is a forty year old man.

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Speaker 2: Uh oh.

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Speaker 1: I was feeling a mix of emotions. Discussed anger and hurt,

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Speaker 1: but one question kept nagging at me. Why was Phoebe

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Speaker 1: make her defensive. She raised her voice, insisted that she

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Speaker 1: We went back and forth for a couple of minutes

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Speaker 2: Do you know? Do I know what?

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Speaker 1: That's when she dropped the bombshell. Not only had my

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Speaker 1: but that feeling quickly turned to rage when Phoebe explained

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Speaker 1: saying it would be her fault if I left and

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Speaker 2: Praise evil evil evil evil evil evil evil.

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Speaker 1: As heartbreaking as that was, nothing could have prepared me

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Speaker 1: for what Phoebe said next. I'm sorry, really, I just

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Speaker 1: didn't want to lose two dads. I don't think I

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Speaker 2: Daddy, Oh dump the life.

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Speaker 1: I tried to hide my emotions to reassure her that

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Speaker 1: I wasn't going anywhere, but deep down I was seething.

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Speaker 1: Hurting me is one thing, but bringing my daughter into

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Speaker 1: it was unforgivable. I wanted to scream, to cry, to

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Speaker 1: Let's get in two comments Level Issue five one Night

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Speaker 1: Dad's died, only mom would have to sign. So maybe

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Speaker 2: But so so if they're able to slide by while

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Speaker 3: And hopefully it's in a state where it's a no

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Speaker 3: though infidelity was involved. Some some no fault states, like

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Speaker 2: OPI's so sweet? How did he not see this? Were

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Speaker 1: But update one day later, So my sixteen year old daughter,

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Speaker 1: She also opened up about some other emotional abuse she

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Speaker 1: I assured her I would do my best to gain

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Speaker 1: I feel like OPI is really trying to put his

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Speaker 2: Op is flaw. I cannot find one thing that op

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Speaker 1: Phoebe is currently seeing two therapists, one specializing in CPTSD

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Speaker 2: Thanks.

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Speaker 1: I have faith that they will be able to support

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Speaker 1: I've been gathering evidence from texts and bank statements, and

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Speaker 1: Thank you all so much for your support. I hope

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Speaker 1: divorce her, okay. Patient six' nine five seven says if

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Speaker 1: BARV says at sixteen they would take her choice as lead.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not full for him, but majority.

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Speaker 1: We learned that in thirty three states, sixteen is the

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Speaker 2: for okop reelam. Karen demands I removed my knee brace

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Speaker 1: I'm Sabled Honor and I'm John Fry and we telled

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Speaker 1: all funnier.

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Speaker 2: Stories on it. Strong finish.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't quite ready for to bring the heat like

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Speaker 1: We always bring the heat because we're like pizza buyers

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Speaker 2: Speaking of hot Somali uh Salami. I'm wondering this has

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Speaker 1: Music, Yeah, I did. It was your piano, and I

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Speaker 1: I basically like my parents are like six, You're like,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they signed it to me. I mean like they

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Speaker 1: I could play like Bach and Mozart and beethel and

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Speaker 1: I can't like jam with my bros. Yeah, and so

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Speaker 2: Which, by the way, we need a jam session for

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Speaker 2: the two of us is very overdue.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that was my like high school from from like

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Speaker 1: You were in band too.

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Speaker 2: I was, yeah, like the whole way band captain at

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Speaker 1: It's band appropriate.

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00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that heat.

438
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 1: That's right, John banging every drum comes his way.

439
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 2: Oh, no, drum, I if you catch my throat but

440
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,199
Speaker 2: I have a story today about someone who also was

441
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,959
Speaker 2: a banging on not drums, but uh on people.

442
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:24,239
Speaker 1: Ohs, like in a sexy way, or in like an

443
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 1: assault way, in an angry way. Okay, in a skillful way,

444
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: in a skillful way. All right, let's let's get into it.

445
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 1: I'm not confused, but I'm ready.

446
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 2: Karen demands I removed my knee brace so her daughter

447
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,880
Speaker 2: can obliterate me in martial.

448
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:45,199
Speaker 1: Arts, like like sweep the leg. You know, I'm just

449
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 1: I'm just imagining this karate kid move like you don't.

450
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,120
Speaker 2: He needs the knee brace to compete exactly, Like but this,

451
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 2: this Karen is like, what is all the ways that

452
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 2: my child can win and you can receive pain?

453
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, this is ridiculus us. He needs a knee brace?

454
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 2: He does? Or they? I think it might be a woman.

455
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 2: Oh she I think we'll say they.

456
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 1: Okay, they gender neutral, gender neutral pronouns, yeah, or we

457
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: could use kitty kitty self. Have you see those? No,

458
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 1: those are some neo pronouns for you.

459
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 2: Oh wow, we're like the next next age.

460
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: Bro where like people are saying like this is the

461
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 1: only male podcast that I like, Oh yeah, that's we're woke.

462
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 2: The explosion of the like Alpha Male podcast has been

463
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 2: like really weird and like and have you seen it.

464
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 2: I've seen some of them.

465
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 1: Like I've seen like some clips where it's like if

466
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: I cry in form of woman, the relationship is over.

467
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: So I never cry because women need strong men.

468
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, or it's like I don't know, it's just like

469
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 2: a bunch of like insane points about like.

470
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 1: Like really trying to be alpha man men that are

471
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Speaker 1: that just start broken. Yeah, it's like they need some

472
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,360
Speaker 1: love and affection, bro Honestly.

473
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 2: On hundred like there's kind of a reason why they

474
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 2: are putting the alpha title on themselves, so like ferociously.

475
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's because you know, inside it's on Alpha Male.

476
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,880
Speaker 1: It's a little little cub that's right now for affection

477
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 1: a cubs that needs a hug. Just cubs need a hug. Yeah,

478
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: that's yeah, that is a response to Alpha Male podcast.

479
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: Our new Alpha Male podcast is cubs that need hugs.

480
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, we are high value cubs that deserve hugs. Yes,

481
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 2: I know this is controversial, but I don't care.

482
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna break what we're We're about men showing men

483
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 1: affectionate public.

484
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 2: That's right, that's how controversial we are.

485
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, suck it Alpha Male Podcast. That's right, hug,

486
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: and you're gonna freaking love it.

487
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 2: That's right.

488
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: Emotional vulnerability, and you're gonna be like, oh my god,

489
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: this is the best thing ever.

490
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 2: You're welcome, then gotta love it, gotta love it all right,

491
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 2: let's dive in, shall let's do it. I am a

492
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 2: martial artist and I've been training in my specific discipline

493
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 2: for about twelve years now.

494
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 1: They're moving twelve twelve years. Man's man's like I only

495
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: know like a couple of martial artists, Jackie.

496
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 2: Chan, Bruce Lee. In my region, we have a group

497
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 2: that organizes events between dojo's and cities.

498
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 1: Connor McGregor. That's another one, Connor McGregor.

499
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 2: That's true, he is.

500
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, mixed martial arts. It's like martial arts,

501
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: but you put it in a blender. The most popular,

502
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: the most popular events are tournaments. Before COVID, we used

503
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: to have almost monthly tournaments in different cities. They weren't mandatory,

504
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: but a lot of people still came because almost everyone

505
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: is a good sport. No, wow, that's great. I mean,

506
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: it's cool that you have like a community.

507
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 2: The community, Yeah, exactly. But notice how I said almost

508
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 2: everyone oh wow wow, or someone's saying he wasn't even

509
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 2: reading that guy present. Since tournaments have started up again

510
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 2: with a lot of restrictions for health reasons, my dojo

511
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 2: has been pretty happy. Those of us who can go

512
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 2: take time to commute.

513
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 1: I don't know why I love like I love the

514
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: term dojo.

515
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 2: It is kind of a It just sounds like, you know,

516
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 2: baba ganush. Is it like a food? It's yeah, it's

517
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 2: a food. It's like it's like a really creamy I

518
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 2: forget what like the core substances, but it's like a

519
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 2: Mediterranean Eastern dish. But the name babags it just rolls

520
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 2: off the tongue.

521
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 1: Start calling my room the dojo, the dojo, Yeah, welcome

522
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:36,959
Speaker 1: to the dojo.

523
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 2: Maybe that can be our future studio name kop dojo. Yeah,

524
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 2: the dojo yo?

525
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 1: No. Yeah, So like we don't say like, hey, do

526
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: you want to come over to the studio, We say, hey,

527
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 1: do you want to come over to the dojojo?

528
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 2: Yeah? Did I actually love that? We should totally call

529
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 2: it the okof dojo? Yeah.

530
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: If a dojo, we're gonna have to like put like

531
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Speaker 1: mats on the floor.

532
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,360
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, we literally we're gonna just be sitting on

533
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 2: the ground, drinking green tea and reading stories to you.

534
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 2: The last tournament was one day ago and we were

535
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 2: in a city that was about a two hour drive

536
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,239
Speaker 2: away from my hometown. Everything was going smoothly until I

537
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: went into change room to get into my ge my uniform.

538
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 2: There was whizz.

539
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 3: She was.

540
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 2: Guys, we know nothing, like this is what you get.

541
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 2: This is what you get when you hire people reading

542
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 2: Greta stories. Yeah yeah, you paid for this, that's right

543
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 2: with your eyeballs. There was a mother there with her

544
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 2: daughter who looked around my age. Why the mom was

545
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 2: there in the changing room was beyond me, but I

546
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: didn't pay him any mind and went into a corner

547
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 2: to change. I had about half my uniform on during

548
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 2: the drive, but I still needed to put the top

549
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 2: on and my knee brace. When I was rolling out

550
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 2: my pants to put on the knee brace, the mother

551
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 2: was giving me this nasty look some staker. She quickly

552
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 2: pulled the daughter out of the locker room just before

553
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 2: I put on my belts. My senior instructor told me

554
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 2: that I needed to see the head black belts immediately.

555
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: Oh no, you never want to go to the head

556
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: of the black belt immediately. That's a good The black

557
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: belts have been called the counsel of black belts has

558
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: been then is going to dole out justice to you?

559
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 2: Me? Is everything all right? Head black belt? This woman

560
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: and her daughter say that you have a legal gear,

561
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 2: legal gear? Could we please see it? Illegal?

562
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 3: Gee?

563
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: Er jokes, doe jokes, me jokes, welcome. That's what we

564
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: call our dojo, the do the doj jokes jojo. Oh man,

565
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: we're quickly going downhill, guys.

566
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 2: Me baffled. Of course, I left my gear bag in

567
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 2: the change room, though, I'll have to run and grab

568
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 2: it if you want. Karen, Oh no, you don't. Uh.

569
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 2: At this point, everyone in the small group turned to her, aghast.

570
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: She put the gear on while my daughter and I

571
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 2: were in the changing room. All so, my instructor, are

572
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 2: you sure it was OPI? I've been training with her

573
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: for years. She brought back all her gear at my dojo,

574
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 2: and we don't have anything illegal. The entitled daughter. She

575
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 2: was putting the gear on her knee. I saw her, me, wait,

576
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 2: do you mean my knee brace?

577
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: What's wrong with the knee brace.

578
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 2: My instructor, she needs that head black belt. I was

579
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 2: notified about that knee brace. It is perfectly legal for

580
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: Opie to wear it.

581
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro Opie needs the brace's knee or her knee

582
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: needs to brace their knee because you don't want to

583
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: get like a dislocated knee or something on that.

584
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 2: That's right. The head black belt says she needs it

585
00:29:55,560 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 2: if she wants to compete safely. Yeah, exactly, Karen, No,

586
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 2: it's illgal. My daughter has to fight someone with reinforced knee.

587
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 2: How is that fair?

588
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: All reinforce knees, super bionic knees, the seven million dollars woman,

589
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: head black belts, Well, why is your daughter aiming for

590
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: the knees? Yeah, you shouldn't even be naming bur the knees,

591
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: my instructor, not to mention OPI and your daughter won't

592
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: spar with each other. They're in completely different belts rank divisions. Yeah,

593
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: like op is actually good, entitled daughter.

594
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 2: Why does she even need it? She can work just

595
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: fine because she's about to fight. She didn't brace those knees.

596
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 2: Real reinforcing a knee. This isn't concrete, guys, like she

597
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 2: needs it to not have any issues me. If you

598
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 2: have to know, I've had knee problems for years. Just

599
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 2: ask anyone in my dojo. I got into an accident

600
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 2: a while back, and it just eighty things worse. I

601
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: did a physical and now I can walk around, but

602
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: my knee could give out if I'm not careful. Karen. Still,

603
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: my daughter is competing for the Grand champion now, but

604
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: not against OP. So it doesn't matter my instructor. How

605
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: your daughter's an orange belt, she's not allowed to compete

606
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 2: in a black belt division. Direct okay, Karen, But I

607
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 2: head black belt. That is enough. OP is competing. But

608
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 2: if you don't stop pressing the issue, your daughter will

609
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: not compete.

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00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: I love how like that is enough. It's like like

611
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: it's a Gandalf or.

612
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 2: Like you suh, head black belt turns to me, go

613
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 2: and get the rest of your gie on good luck

614
00:31:55,240 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 2: in competing. Very wise words. Wow wow, So it was solved.

615
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: I guess like she ended up competing. Well, there's a

616
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 2: little little bit more so me thank you had mister

617
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 2: had black belts the girl. The girl got to compete

618
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 2: and lost, while I did the exact same thing. I

619
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: also lost. Still, the person who won the gold deserved

620
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 2: it anyway. This isn't as bad as the many stories

621
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 2: I've read on this subreddit, but I thought I would

622
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: share this woman's audacity.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, the audacity for someone be like, you're protecting

624
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: your knees?

625
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 2: How dare you the audacity of her caucacity?

626
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: But you know what, you should always have the audacity

627
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Speaker 1: to do. Ooh, subscribe to Okay, subscribe on you the

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Speaker 1: be a real one.

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Speaker 2: Joined the Patriarch because you can doc thous on Discord.

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Speaker 2: Kathy see us soup. Bye am I the a hole.

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Speaker 2: Someone told my ex's fiance that she's still in love

635
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 2: with me. That's a messy Yes, it is. So. One

636
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Speaker 2: of my best friends, Carla, is getting married soon. It's

637
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 2: only meant to be a small backyard type of wedding,

638
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: but we've been planning it for a few months now,

639
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 2: and originally it was supposed to be on my property.

640
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 2: They wanted to use my property because it's private. It

641
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 2: has lots of open space for the reception, a nice view,

642
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 2: and the house could be used to get ready and whatnot.

643
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 2: Of course I said yes, and she and her fiance

644
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 2: Rick were very happy about this. The thing is, Carla

645
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: and I do have a history, a history, a history

646
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 2: amexial history. It's frisky, a frisky one, hot, steamy, like

647
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Speaker 2: a bowl of fresh ramen. So we went on and

648
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 2: off in college, but eventually decided to stay friends. Then

649
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 2: I met my wife, we got married, Carla met Rick,

650
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 2: and now here they are. So they've kind of moved

651
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: on and agreed, Hey, well they have their own relationship,

652
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: have our own relationship, will stay in our lives as friends. Right.

653
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: Cool.

654
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 2: Now my wife knows that I went out with Carla

655
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 2: back in college, and she didn't care. Carla still went

656
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 2: to our wedding and everything. I never knew if Rick,

657
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: her fiance, was told or not. It's not my relationship,

658
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: therefore not my business to say anything, so I never did.

659
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:18,959
Speaker 1: Fair.

660
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 2: The thing is Rick found out recently and not in

661
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 2: the best of ways. Oh God, who doesn't.

662
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: Tell Like, I feel like that's something that you tell.

663
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 2: Very yeah, that is if they're involved in your life

664
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 2: like that, Like, hey, yeah, just so you know, like

665
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: we have a history.

666
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: Like my ex girlfriend Sophie, who I dated for like

667
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: a year, is coming back to LA for a few

668
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: days and wants to get dinner with all the friends,

669
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: and like immediately when I knew that, and like, like

670
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: Arianna knew a little bit, but I'm like, hey, like

671
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: Sophie's coming back, yeah, and then I have to tell

672
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: Sophie about Arianna, and then I knew about each other.

673
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: You do it first contact, first contact numberfore.

674
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 2: Exactly, like if you just want to get it out

675
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 2: of the way, one hundred percent.

676
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: Like, and it's awkward and it's weird, but it's right

677
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: thing to do. It's the right thing to do, and

678
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: doing it upfront is best for everyone, right, it makes

679
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: it less awkward and weird. The earlier you do it,

680
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: the more we wait, the more the awkwardness.

681
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 2: Exactly. No, he says, I'm not sure how exactly he

682
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 2: found out, but from what I heard from friends, one

683
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 2: mutual friend told him no idea why that we used

684
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 2: to date. And not only that, but apparently Carla said

685
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,439
Speaker 2: a couple years ago that she was still in love

686
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 2: with me while she had started dating Rick, her now fiance,

687
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 2: what Yeah, oh that Rick. I feel bad for Rick Man.

688
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: I know Rick kind of here going, you.

689
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: Know, think.

690
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: Everyone wants op over here. I don't have actual confirmation

691
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 2: that that is exactly what he was told, but he

692
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 2: thinks that's what went down.

693
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 1: Okay.

694
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 2: All that Carla has told me is that Rick was

695
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 2: told about our past and he's now very angry at

696
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 2: her for never saying anything.

697
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: And honestly, that's probably because you still have feelings for

698
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: that person if you're that cagey about it, Because if

699
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: you're not, then it's not even a worry.

700
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 2: That's yeah, like, oh this happened, like it's nothing anymore.

701
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 2: It's chill. You know, there's nothing you should be worried about.

702
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: And if you're intentionally not saying something, maybe there is

703
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: something you should be worried about.

704
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 2: Now. It became quite a drama, and we didn't hear

705
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: from her for over a month a month until now.

706
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: Oh wait, what's happening.

707
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: Now we're about to find out. She told me that

708
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 2: they're going to couples counseling. So it's it's been pretty

709
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 2: rough basically, but the wedding is still blonde. But Rick

710
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 2: suggested that I don't attend and it sucks, but I

711
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 2: totally get why he wouldn't be comfortable with me there.

712
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 2: Then I asked the obvious question, where are they going

713
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 2: to hold the wedding? Then, to my surprise, she said

714
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 2: that she still wanted it to be at our place.

715
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 2: So they want to uninvite him from the wedding but

716
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 2: hold it at his house.

717
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: Wait what, Yes, the wedding venue is Opie's house.

718
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, he can't even go to his own house. That's ridiculous. Literally, like, hey,

719
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 2: get out of your own house for like all like week,

720
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 2: made like four days.

721
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: You know, that's silly, silly, you can't. You can't have

722
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: your cake and eat it exactly.

723
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 2: Like, they either need to invite him or completely move,

724
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 2: which sucks, like it sucks to move the whole wedding

725
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: to a new place, but that's just what you got

726
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: to do. You can't tell someone.

727
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: Oh you just you know, invite him to the wedding.

728
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 2: Or yeah, yeah, exactly. That's that's the the other option

729
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: there of what they should do. So she said that

730
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 2: Rick said so, and in my mind, I'm going he

731
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 2: doesn't want the guy who dated his fiance years ago

732
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 2: at the wedding. But still wants the wedding at my house,

733
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 2: Like it's just not adding up for him. Also, this

734
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: house spmost to be nice to have, like your Yeah,

735
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 2: I mean it sounds like I mean if it has,

736
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: like he said, a nice view, large enough for the

737
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 2: reception and after, Like he sounds like he's got a

738
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 2: baller ass path.

739
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: Ruh, No, wonder she still loves.

740
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, give it him checks, baby. Now, my wife and

741
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 2: I are expecting to just not be at our home

742
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: that weekend. Like it's just crazy. So here is what

743
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 2: I told Carla. No, I told her, no, they're gonna

744
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 2: have to find someplace else since we are not going

745
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 2: to simply leave our home to them for an entire weekend.

746
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: And like, not only for the safety reasons, but it

747
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 2: just doesn't make sense overall. Rick doesn't want me around

748
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 2: because he's not comfortable, but he's comfortable enough to have

749
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: the wedding at my house.

750
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Rick is just insecure at this point.

751
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 2: You're all over the place, man, like you got you

752
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: gotta get it together, Like I'm look, it sucks that

753
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 2: you know you found it all the information the way

754
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: you did, but like this is not the appropriate response here.

755
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 2: They really want their wedding here though, and because of that,

756
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: I've been bugged not only by her, but also Rick

757
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 2: and some of their friends who think I'm being a

758
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 2: petty a hole by not letting them have their wedding

759
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 2: here anymore. So they're just getting all their friends to

760
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 2: gang up on them like ridiculous kind of whack. I

761
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 2: honestly don't think that I'm the a hole here. It

762
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 2: just doesn't make sense at all to have us leave

763
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 2: our own place for a wedding we're no longer welcome

764
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 2: to and leaving our home totally vulnerable as well still

765
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 2: being accused of sabotaging their wedding, and Rick believes it's

766
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 2: the least I can do after everything. Am I the ale?

767
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: I think?

768
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, no, it's a fricked up situation here, But

769
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: it's it's not Op's fault. No, it's really Carlo's fault

770
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: for not telling Rick, and that's Rick's fault for being insecure,

771
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: and then it's both their fault for still wanting to

772
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: have the wedding even though they feel insecure about Op

773
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: being there. Literally, Op definitely not the a hole.

774
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 2: I agree. I think I think that's case closed. I

775
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 2: think that's two wedding stories for the books Detective.

776
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 1: We've done it again.

777
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 2: Yes, before we go, subscribe,