WEBVTT - The Diddy Trial: Sentencing Day! 0:00:02.120 --> 0:00:05.560 Hey there, folks, it is Tuesday, July the eighth. Yes, 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:10.080 did he heard the verdicts last week, but today he 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:15.080 had another very important court hearing in his case. It 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:18.680 lasted all of two minutes, but we got some very 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:22.400 important information out of it, and we found out that 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:25.119 Diddy has changed his mind. And with that, welcome to 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:27.760 this Diddy Update episode of Amy and TJ. 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:28.560 Robes. 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:32.080 Who were anticipating one thing from the defense team and 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:34.440 we got something else today. 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:37.760 Yes, it was actually very confusing to a lot of folks, 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:41.280 some journalists and everyone was huddled around, even in some 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:44.159 listening rooms trying to hear what was happening for a 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:49.080 scheduled sentencing, like a pre sentencing hearing, I guess. 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:49.720 Is what it was called. 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:53.159 They called it a conference, a virtual conference. It was 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:56.000 supposed to be for them to discuss, yes, when we 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:57.600 can actually sentence its correct. 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:00.360 So here's what we were anticipating. It had been said 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:03.560 that the defense and the prosecution had actually agreed to 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:08.680 I guess hasten the sentencing hearing from October third to 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:12.600 September twenty second, So everyone was expecting defense attorneys and 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:17.160 federal prosecutors to submit this September twenty second sentencing date 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:21.480 to the judge, but just before the hearing, attorneys for 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:25.520 both sides then sent another letter, joint letter to the 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:30.440 judge saying never mind, we'll just go ahead and keep 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:36.080 the October third, the original sentencing date done. And then 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:39.319 they were asked, would you like to talk about anything else? 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:42.360 Is there anything else to discuss? Most folks were expecting 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:46.480 other business to be talked about, and they both said, nah, 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:47.080 we're good. 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:51.080 That was essentially a phone call. They say Diddy was 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:53.720 on the call, but it went just a couple of minutes. 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:58.080 Now surprising heroes because as soon I mean, as you 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:01.880 know what we just reported this. Markgagnfield when he kind 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:04.520 of had an epiphany the day before the verdicts were read, 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:09.720 he realized, you know what, he's been found not guilty 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:12.520 on these other accounts. He's guilty on the prostitution. So 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:16.080 let's get a bail request ready. As soon as they 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:18.239 heard the verdicts, they would like, hey, we want to 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:21.040 get this guy out of jail. The judge said no. 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:24.160 They were immediately Hey, we want to get the sentencing 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:27.280 done as quickly as possible. They were so quick to 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:30.320 be on top of that and today a total turnaround. 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:31.320 That's what's confusing. 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:34.840 So last week we heard from Mark Agnfilo telling the 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:41.040 judge that Diddy was actually experiencing exceptional circumstances. They actually 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:44.639 cited that specific claim because they said if he had 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:47.919 to wait until October third, it was a problem. Because 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:54.320 they brought up the fact that Comb's romantic partner, Kim Porter, 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:57.320 died back in twenty eighteen, and so that his twin daughters, 0:02:57.600 --> 0:02:59.640 who were sitting behind him in the second. 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:00.800 Row throughout most of the trial. 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:03.120 They're eighteen years old, but they have been without a 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:05.799 parent for some time now, and so that was part 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:10.160 of the reasoning. We heard Diddy's defense attorney say, hey, 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:12.919 we need an expedited sentencing date. 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:14.840 I'm not sure if that ever works. Does that I mean, 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:16.680 if there are young children, that's one thing, but that. 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:18.679 Is they're adults technically by law. 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:20.919 I mean, they brought it up as if they thought 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:22.679 it might make a difference. I mean, they know what 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:23.640 they're doing or was that. 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:26.600 Just a maybe it was an emotional reaction maybe, But 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:29.120 also other thing that I was kind of confused by. 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:31.040 So if the judge is. 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:33.320 Ultimately going to decide whether or not he serves what 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:36.320 they're asking for about two years behind bars versus what 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:39.680 the prosecution is hoping for, which is five years behind bars. 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:43.600 How moving up the sentencing date changes when he gets 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:45.200 out of prison, because at the end of the day, 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:47.600 he's getting credit for time serve. So that was also 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:51.080 maybe just him having peace of mind knowing how much 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:51.960 longer he has. 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:53.920 Maybe that has a. 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:57.080 Mental health benefit to him to his daughter's just to 0:03:57.240 --> 0:03:59.480 know sooner rather than later, how long he's going to 0:03:59.520 --> 0:03:59.800 be spending. 0:03:59.800 --> 0:03:59.960 Bye. 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:03.000 But he's not getting out of jail anytime soon. This 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:04.880 is what we're talking about. He's going to be sentenced. 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:07.400 I think there's a consensus from all the experts and 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:09.800 everything we've been reading he is going to spend and 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:12.640 maybe even some significant time in prison. So even if 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:14.520 they let him out on bail now, he's going to 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:16.400 end up going right back inn So it's not a 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:18.400 matter of the girls are about to get their dad 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:22.520 back in the long term anytime soon. He is going 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:25.279 to He is staying in prison, and it's just a 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:28.400 matter of how long that's going to be. But to 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:30.440 your point, Robes, it seemed almost I don't know if 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:32.680 it was a gut reaction, immediate reaction or not a 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:34.960 well thought out reaction to the judge at the time 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:38.799 last week. And then now they realize, Okay, it doesn't 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:40.600 matter to rush it. We might as well take our 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:43.200 time and get it right, because this is now the 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:47.120 ultimate decision. Convictions were one thing, and the verdicts were 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:49.760 one thing, but now this is the most important thing 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:52.560 to try to get right, to convince the judge to 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:54.920 not go on the high end. 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:58.560 Right. But so to that point, it's very interesting because 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:04.200 Comb's dues face technically a maximum sentence of twenty years 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:08.080 in prison, ten years for each of his conspiracy what 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:12.359 was the transportation for prostitution. He could face a maximum 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:15.560 of twenty years behind bars, and initially the prosecution said 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:18.760 that's what they were going to go for. Now it 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:21.279 appears they're saying, okay, maybe five years would be enough, 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:23.960 and again the defense wants two years. But it's been 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:28.960 made very clear the judge can do whatever he wants. 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:30.480 He doesn't have. 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:34.880 To abide by whatever guidelines they keep talking about. Correct, 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:36.720 to do whatever he wants as long the only thing 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:38.719 he can't do is go over ten years for each count. 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:39.200 Correct. 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:42.080 That's the only thing. That's the only requirement. So the 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:46.120 thing is now the judge has indicated he is indicated 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:49.200 by not allowing him out on bail after the verdicts. 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:52.599 He has indicated that he feels that Sean Diddy Combes 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:56.760 is still a threat to the community in some way. 0:05:57.320 --> 0:06:00.279 He said it flat out from the bench and his 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:04.360 move to not allow him to go home in the meantime, 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:05.880 he won't even let him go home for a couple 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:08.880 of months until the sentencing, right because he thinks he's 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:09.919 such a threat. 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:10.520 To the community. 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:13.039 Yeah, I mean, he mentioned the fact that he does 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:17.000 have enough power and wealth and means to flee even 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:19.200 though he would surrender for his passport. Still when people 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:23.400 have private jets and all sorts of other access that 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:24.400 most of us don't. 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:26.039 Know anything about. That is one thing. 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:28.760 But he also did specifically point out to the fact, 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:32.120 point out the fact, excuse me, that he was violent, 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:35.359 even by his own admission, after he knew he was 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:40.120 under investigation with Jane, So Jane testified to it. He 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:44.160 admitted it, and others also testified to witnessing it that 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:48.880 even when he knew federal investigators were on him for 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:52.880 all of this alleged abuse. He still continued to abuse 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:57.200 his then girlfriend. That was enough for him to say, Hey, 0:06:57.240 --> 0:06:58.919 this is a guy who, even when he knows he 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:02.159 might be watched, when he knows he might be monitored, 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:03.880 he's still committing violent acts. 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:06.080 So no, you cannot be out on bail. 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:08.800 So the jug and the prosecutors are asking the judge 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:15.280 to consider that and to consider conduct he was acquitted for. Right, 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:19.240 it doesn't matter like whatever technicality on racketeering, it didn't 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:22.040 follow the exact law and the jury didn't go along 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:25.240 with it. Okay, fine, we still saw the video of 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:27.920 him beating somebody. We still heard all the stories that 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:31.680 we actually believed. So when you put all that together, 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:35.840 it is a I mean, he comes off as a 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:40.239 scary dude that, if unleashed back into society, could still 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:43.280 be a menace of some kind. I'm looking for the line, 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:46.640 help me hear ropes. There was a line that judged 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:52.320 used about his propensity for violence behind closed doors. You remember, 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:55.080 I'll hear it is quote. This type of violence which 0:07:55.320 --> 0:08:01.840 happens behind closed doors in personal relationships, sparked by unpredictable 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:07.480 bouts of anger, is impossible to police with conditions like, 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:10.360 there's nothing I can say and say stay at home 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:13.560 at twenty four hour monitoring. There's nothing he could say 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:16.280 that the judge that would make him feel comfortable about 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:17.800 putting this guy back on the street. 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:22.600 That's wild and that is telling and will be very 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:25.400 interesting to hear. How then he is going to rule 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:28.080 on sentencing. He's got some time obviously between now and then. 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:31.360 Now it looks like October third. But one of the 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:35.600 big stipulations that happens during this time is there's an 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:41.199 investigation of sorts. I mean actually an investigation, a sentencing investigation, 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:45.040 and federal prosecutors were adamant that that should not be eliminated. 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:46.800 They shouldn't go straight to sentencing. 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:50.120 They should actually have the time to let it run 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:54.640 its proper course, which involves a pre sentenced report from 0:08:54.679 --> 0:09:00.120 probation officials, which includes an interview with Diddy, and so 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:02.800 heres want that to happen. So that interview, then the 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:06.239 judge would be privy to to read all of those transcripts, 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:09.360 and that's an important part of the process to determine 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:14.520 whether or not or how long someone should stay behind bars. 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:17.240 And at this point, Robes. 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:21.360 I have now right, he had the victory, and it 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:24.320 was a big and it was that's not in all 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:26.600 circles he was facing life. 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:30.040 He could possibly be getting a couple of years. 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:32.760 That's a week less than five, and we get it. 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:34.080 That is a win for him. 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:38.360 However, now I'm hearing so many legal experts, the folks 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:40.400 out there who are doing all the analysis of this, 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:44.240 are talking more and more about the judge using his 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:48.160 discretion and using some of the things he wasn't convicted 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:51.480 for against him to still use his like almost this 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:56.160 common sense test of this is a bad dude, and 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:59.120 giving him just two years after up all this shit 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:01.280 we just heard wouldn't be just. 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:07.280 I can't help but think about how the judge truly felt. 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:11.560 It may have seemed small, but it stood out. And 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:14.360 I think a judge especially knows when someone's trying to 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:17.439 sweet talk him or smooth talk him, especially someone who's 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:20.640 known to be charismatic and had the abilities somehow to 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:23.800 have a lot of women doing whatever he wanted them 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:25.800 to do despite his violent behavior. 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:29.600 So someone who is charismatic and possibly. 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:33.640 Manipulative, how the judge felt, when did he took the 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:39.200 moment to tell him to tell the judge thank you? 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:41.360 And I think you're doing a really good job. I 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:46.080 wonder how much impact if that had, And I would 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:49.800 think you would have done something negative, not something positive, 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.960 because the judge obviously is a smart man, And I 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:56.800 wonder how much that made him feel like, is this, dude, 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:59.440 somebody I really want to go easy on, somebody I 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:00.000 want to be fair? 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:01.880 Are someone who I want to teach a lesson to. 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:04.000 I don't know if that I just can't help but 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:06.760 feel like that could have had a negative impact. 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:11.120 It's it's they call them judges for a reason. They 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:14.440 are judging folks. They are referees to make sure each 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.320 side gets to play fairly, but they are in judgment 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:20.880 of the person sitting there and how the proceeding is 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:25.359 supposed to go right his judgment about Diddy? Is everything 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:27.559 right now? That moment it went one of. 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:29.960 What three ways? 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:33.120 It had a positive impact, a negative impact, or absolutely none. 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:35.720 It could have just rolled off. He could have been dismissive. 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.360 He might have seen that and said, you jerk, you 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:41.679 look you ass or is there any chance. I think 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:44.200 it's least likely that he was impressed by it in some. 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:47.520 Way, like, oh, it's hard, that's hard to imagine, Oh 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:50.800 my god, he he thinks I'm doing a good job. Wow, 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:53.079 that's so cool. But I did, like you, and I 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:57.440 have covered plenty of trials. Have you ever ever seen. 0:11:57.240 --> 0:12:01.120 A defendant have the no one's come let's just say that, 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:05.839 or perhaps the hubris to to do that. 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:11.000 I've seen some arrogant defendants, but not so to do that. 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:13.320 I want to let you know what a good job 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:15.520 you've been doing. You're welcome. 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:16.640 We had to read. 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:18.559 All we had all our All we could do was 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:20.600 read it. Oh we could do is read So who 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:22.760 knows how it actually came across. It could have been authentic, 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:24.200 It could have been sweet, It could have been nice, 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:25.360 It could have been awkward. 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:26.760 We don't exactly know. 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:29.199 All we were able to do is actually read it 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:31.640 based on what was coming out of the courtroom. 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:38.600 So it read arrogant. It read arrogant and manipulative. Yes, 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:42.440 it read both of those things. To me, who does that? 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:44.920 And what Judge actually is swayed by that? 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:48.280 I think that I just think he's smart enough to know. 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:50.640 This smart guy is not going to be sweet. 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:53.360 I mean just saying thank you, Judge. 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:54.600 Yeah, I don't know. 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:57.320 Oh man, this is the moment us standing out to. 0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:01.280 My mom always told me everyone's favorite subjectors themselves. So 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:04.800 if you know he took that, if he took that, yeah, 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:05.840 flattery will get. 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:09.040 You everywhere, right, it absolutely will. So who knows. I 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:10.280 don't know. It'd be interesting. 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:13.520 I'm very fascinated to see what this judge decides. 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:15.520 He's got time to go through it. 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:19.440 Well, obviously he'll have the interview with Ditty. I don't 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:20.440 wonder how that will go. 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:22.760 And here's the thing, folks, he is going to be 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:28.439 deciding judgment on how long Diddy should spend in prison 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:34.000 after being convicted on a law that many people say 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:38.760 is racist, shouldn't be on the books, and Diddy shouldn't 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:41.839 have been charged with in the first place, the Man Act. 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:42.880 Do you know what that is? 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:57.360 Welcome back everyone to this Tuesday. Did he trial addition? 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:00.320 Because we had a hearing that turned out to be 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:05.199 basically just a two minute quick Hey never mind, judge, 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:07.800 you know when you said you wanted that sentencing hearing 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.000 to be on October third, Yeah, cool, that's that's what 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:11.360 we both want now anyway. 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:13.800 Yeah, so that's what happened today. 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:17.360 The big Ooh, what's the defense going to argue, what's 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:18.320 the judge going to say? 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:23.240 Nothing? Nothing, the least dramatic day of all the days. 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:25.360 Absolutely loved the Diddy trial, and this is when we 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:27.720 were anticipating, like something dramatic. 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:31.000 What are they going to do? Nothing? Nothing, nothing today? 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:31.520 And that's okay. 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:33.480 We've had a lot of dramatic days in this in 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:35.960 this case, we could take a break, but still we 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:37.880 learned a lot, and that's why we're hopping on. So 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:39.960 at least you give the update because it is relevant, 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:43.240 it is significant, it is meaningful that they have decided. Now, hey, 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:45.440 never mind, we don't want to push this thing, rush 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:48.640 this thing. Maybe they're just being a little more deliberate, 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:50.480 but they know he's going to be spending significant time 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:50.840 in jail. 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:54.320 Probably yes, at least two years. That would be the 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:56.240 defense's hope. So another year behind bars. 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:57.640 You had the numbers off the top of your head. 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:00.520 Twenty one to twenty seven months is what the defense 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:02.960 appears to be asking for, and it looks like the 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:07.080 prosecution is hoping anywhere from four to five years behind bars. 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:09.160 So he's already served ten months. By the time we 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:11.239 get to this sentencing hearing. 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:13.160 It will actually be a little bit over a year, 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:16.520 So subtract a year and a month, basically thirteen months 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:18.920 from whatever the sentence is, and that is how long 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:20.360 he will be behind bars. 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:21.400 Sweet spirit. 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:23.560 It's possible if the judge goes the low end and 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:26.280 what the defense is asking, he'd be out within a 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:27.680 year of the sentencing date. 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:29.200 That would be best case scenario. 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:32.960 A year we're talking about summer of twenty twenty six 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:38.600 getting out of jail. The high end though, five years 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:41.920 from the prosecution, so four years, so twenty twenty nine, 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:44.360 somewhere around there. And then you have to consider the 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:46.400 judge can do what he wants, and he has given 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.920 some indication that he does not like this guy's propensity 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:50.320 for violence behind closed doors. 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:52.520 He has given signals that he could. 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:56.280 He could go high on the high end or even higher. 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:57.960 Are some of the signals he's given. 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:01.720 Yeah, he certainly has. And so it's anyone's guess what 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:02.640 the judge is going to do. 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:04.920 Uh, you know. And I think maybe that. 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:08.320 Could have played into the reasoning behind the event, just saying, hey, 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:10.280 you know what, judge, what you wanted, Let's just do 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:10.880 what you wanted. 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:12.880 Let's do this on your timeline. We're cool. 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:17.160 We need a minute to figure out right convictions now 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:22.720 on something you keep hearing transportation to engage in prostitution. 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:25.200 Those are the two counts he was convicted of, maximum 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:27.920 of ten years in prison for each count. But it's 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:30.520 based on something called the Man Act. You keep hearing 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:33.000 that the Man Act, the Man Act, the Man Act. 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:33.480 In ropes. 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:40.880 This is a an incredibly controversial century old law that's 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:44.680 been on the books, and part of its history is 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:46.320 steeped in racism. 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:47.320 It certainly is. 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:49.600 And I didn't realize this, but when you start looking 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:53.680 at so these the transportation to engage in prostitution, those 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:57.200 two counts that he was convicted of are a part 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:01.440 of the Man Act, which was acted back in nineteen ten, 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:08.000 and it was originally known as the White Slave Traffic Act. 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:11.600 White Slave Traffic Act. 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:16.600 It criminalizes transporting individuals across state line four. 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:19.960 And here's the catch, prostitution. 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:27.119 But it originally said prostitution or debauchery or for any 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:28.760 other immoral purpose. 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:31.040 Who gets to decide what an immoral purpose? 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:33.880 Correct? And a woman correct? 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:37.920 And so there was a very high profile case against 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:41.760 black champion heavyweight boxer Jack Johnson. 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:43.800 First ever black heavyweight champ, not just any. 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:46.200 Guy here back in nineteen thirteen. 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:49.359 So guess what, he had a white girlfriend, and guess what, 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:56.119 Black champion heavyweight boxer Jack Johnson took his girlfriend across 0:17:56.359 --> 0:18:01.000 state lines. And so that is why and how he 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:06.520 was convicted in this Man Act, which obviously is steeped 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:10.800 in racism. So they were this Act allowed prosecutors to 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:16.720 bring charges against people who had unlawful premarital, unlawful extramarital, 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:19.879 unlawful at that point in a racial relation. 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:21.960 So they were able to take this. 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:26.360 Act and apply it in very gray areas for this 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:28.000 whole immoral purpose. 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:30.280 So it was one of their arguments is that this 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:33.160 case was being brought against one of the most successful 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:35.840 black entrepreneurs we have ever seen in this country. 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:39.639 And they thought it was they're going after him for 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:41.880 some kind of racial prosecution. Yep. 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:44.640 The judge actually was pissed and shot that down in court. 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:46.920 Anytime there was a suggestion that this was about race, 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:48.000 or they brought it about race. 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:51.639 But that plays for the pubblic it does praise for 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:52.320 a jury. 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:55.200 Now it also we should point out this Man Act 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:59.000 was used against R and B singer R Kelly. It 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:03.800 was used against Galaine Maxwell in the whole. Jeffrey Epstein 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:07.240 the longtime confident of Jeffrey Epstein. But still there's no 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:13.040 denying that that specific act absolutely absolutely is Steepson races. 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:15.280 I'm storry to put you on the spoting I'm social star, 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:16.320 but I think you're going to know it. 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:17.240 What is it about? 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:21.280 They changed some language and took out some component that 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:24.359 made it vague, right, They updated the language of the 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:26.240 law at some point to make sure it wasn't so 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:30.200 vague and it could be used against interracial culture. 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:32.520 So this is what I can see right now. 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:37.320 So the law was meant to punish common sex work, 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:41.159 but it was removed from the Act by an amendment 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:43.800 in the eighties about the immoral purpose because. 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:44.320 That was vague. 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:46.240 So when they used a moral purpose, that's when they 0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:48.440 could say, oh ah, black man and a white woman, 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:49.560 that's a moral. 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:51.040 That wasn't what the eighties. 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:55.040 Well, it took until the eighties before that amendment was dropped. 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:56.159 Babe. 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:59.240 When I first was a reporter in Charleston, South Carolina 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:01.879 in nineteen ninety five, it was on the books. 0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:03.120 It was illegal if you. 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:05.320 And I had met and fallen in love in nineteen 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:07.000 ninety five at our first job whatever. 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:07.879 You would have been younger than me. 0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:10.760 Don't point it out, but we would not have been 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:13.120 able to legally technically be married. 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:15.120