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Speaker 1: m ROV introduction. I'm trying my best. Did I bring

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Speaker 1: intro like you would do it. It's a brand new

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Speaker 1: edition of NFL Explained, Mike Yam Michael robinsons with me.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to match your energy level and your positivity,

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Speaker 1: So I promise. As we are teasing head coaches and

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Speaker 1: saying they won't really do anything, I'm going to say

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Speaker 1: doing great. It's another football week. Can't wait to talk

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Speaker 1: some Yes. Well, part of that conversation, and I'm touching

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Speaker 1: are these dudes actually do? Right? Like it's game day.

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Speaker 1: They got coordinators, they got you know, different dudes run

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Speaker 1: It feels like they're just dudes. Like CEO is almost

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Speaker 1: It's getting a little bit more CEO ish as we

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Speaker 1: what I mean. You know, when you're a player, you

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Speaker 1: Ye do we do? We beg you're going And I've

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Speaker 1: heard from you. You've actually gotten phone calls after some

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Speaker 1: of the things that you've said about head coaches in

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Speaker 1: I'm in the media and I still get the call.

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Speaker 1: And you and you told that coach you can't find

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Speaker 1: me this time, not gonna happen. Look, and there's some

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Speaker 1: On the other side, it feels like it runs gamut

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Speaker 1: we always hear this phrase like, oh, they're professionals out there,

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Speaker 1: know that sounds sort of ridiculous because of what we're

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Speaker 1: start by saying this, I believe, Mike, that every human

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Speaker 1: by saying that because some days we wake up some

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Speaker 1: a head coaching football is no different, right. It helps

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Speaker 1: But I will say this, deadlines force change. Deadlines force change.

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Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna use Pete and John because those

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Speaker 1: of practice. You gotta get laded up. Football is a

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Speaker 1: physical sport. You cannot play the game of football without

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Speaker 1: doing physical activities, and that's practicing with your pads on.

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Speaker 1: It's also interesting too, because I've heard this over the years,

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Speaker 1: and not to make this a college thing, because I

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Speaker 1: know it does happen occasionally in the pros, but I'll

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Speaker 1: reference it because I know first half when USC and

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Speaker 1: Willie would be made. First off, I'm bringing this up.

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Speaker 1: But when US was dealing with a lot of sanctions,

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Speaker 1: they were low on numbers and to combatant, they weren't

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Speaker 1: tackling in practice. And then all of a sudden you

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Speaker 1: saw tackling become an issue in some of their games

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Speaker 1: because just dudes weren't doing that during the course of

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Speaker 1: the week. So I think what you're speaking to in

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Speaker 1: terms of reps is a real thing. Early on in

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Speaker 1: football seasons, we mike you hear man, We see Twitter,

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Speaker 1: we see social media. We got to deal with it

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Speaker 1: on some of the shows here at NFL Network had

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Speaker 1: of fans are like, oh man, it's going on. My

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Speaker 1: guys are missing. We see it every week. The first

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Speaker 1: six weeks of the season are essentially preseason. It's essentially

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Speaker 1: guys getting enough game reps to master the craft. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you there. One other note, by the way,

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Speaker 1: on coaches and their schedules, because I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of people watch Thursday Night Football on Amazon. What's fascinating

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Speaker 1: to me is the amount of times that you hear

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Speaker 1: Al Michael's and Herb Street talk about the meetings that

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Speaker 1: they're having with players and coaches. That is a huge

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Speaker 1: part of the broadcast and part of their responsibility ahead

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Speaker 1: of the game to give you some intel, talk to

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Speaker 1: you about some things off the records and things really

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Speaker 1: some things on the record, to get a sense of

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Speaker 1: what's about to happen during the course of the week.

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Speaker 1: The point is, coach is pretty damn busy coming up

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Speaker 1: next here. I don't know what you're thinking. They're getting paid, right,

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Speaker 1: it's all about the Benjamin's find out about those page

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Speaker 1: checks a little bit more. Will we come back here

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Speaker 1: on the NFL Explained podcast Welcome back to the NFL

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Speaker 1: Explained Podcasts. I made reference to it in our last episodes.

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Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with sliding into the d m s. You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. At Real Mike rob at Mike Underscore. Yeam,

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Speaker 1: we've been getting questions from you. I'm legit excited. We've

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Speaker 1: gotten some good ones so far. If there's a topic

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Speaker 1: or a question you want answered, I promise we will

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Speaker 1: work it into our mail bag episodes. So keep some

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Speaker 1: of those comments and those questions coming our way. But

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Speaker 1: I had made reference to some of the cash and

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Speaker 1: the checks, Like at the end of the day, everyone

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Speaker 1: knows a lot of these players are making serious money.

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Speaker 1: I mean We're always referring to a lot of those contracts,

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Speaker 1: but NFL coaching allies not always released to the public.

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Speaker 1: So we put together, we got a little bit of data,

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Speaker 1: we know some people who know some people. UH put

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Speaker 1: together in NFL head coaching salary, sort of list a

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Speaker 1: couple of notable contracts and just sort of some sources

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Speaker 1: that we really trust. The average coach three to four

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Speaker 1: million per year on the low end and over ten

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Speaker 1: million a year on the high end. Pete Carroll not

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Speaker 1: that we need to be blowing up anyone's salaries, and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do it anyway, signed an extension eleven plus

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Speaker 1: mill in December of our guy Ian Rappaport, he said

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Speaker 1: he signed another five year extension to make him one

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Speaker 1: of the most highly compensated, if not the highest paid

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Speaker 1: coach in the NFL. That five year extension that was

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Speaker 1: reported by Adam Schefter in eighteen. Rappaport had those original numbers.

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Zach Taylor he signed an undisclosed extension this offseason

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Speaker 1: after being one of the lowest paid NFL coaches at

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Speaker 1: three point seven five million dollars per year. That's according

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Speaker 1: to Schefiters. Yeah, it's nice toning that and look, I

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Speaker 1: know people are like, Mike, did you just say three

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Speaker 1: point seven five? That's all. If the most important position

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Speaker 1: is the quarterback position, and that guy's salary is ballooning

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Speaker 1: around forty million per and you're supposed to be one

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Speaker 1: of those guys that can make those guys one of

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Speaker 1: the best in the league, I think you should make

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Speaker 1: more than three and a half million. Get to a

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Speaker 1: super Bowl that help get you that raise. David Culley

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Speaker 1: at Houston signy fully guaranteed four year, twenty two million

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Speaker 1: dollar contract, fired after one season, bring me the cash,

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Speaker 1: ship me my bread and didn't fire me. You were

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Speaker 1: here from me for the next three years. Money well spent,

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Speaker 1: I would say yes, especially the ones that have a

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Speaker 1: proven track record, like the ones you know obviously, the Belichecks,

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Speaker 1: the Pete Carroll's, the guys that have been proven to

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Speaker 1: go places and when I think they should, especially when

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Speaker 1: you look at the TV money, the ballooning salaries of players.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if everybody, if all ships arise and truly

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Speaker 1: let all ship, I think head coaches should make more.

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Speaker 1: And I do think the ones that can go into

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Speaker 1: any football situation and help their team, I mean by this.

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Speaker 1: You got your Sean mcveigh's, your offensive gurules, you got

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Speaker 1: your ta bows, your defensive gurus and play callers. Those guys, Okay,

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Speaker 1: to Bowl sees the game, certain leins, Okay, he sees

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Speaker 1: the game happening. He's gonna always look at well, how

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Speaker 1: can we stop them from doing the positive? You see

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Because that's a that's a defensive concept,

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Speaker 1: that's a defensive way of thinking. Sean McVeigh is gonna

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Speaker 1: always be an attack mode. He's always gonna say, oh,

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Speaker 1: they're scoring, Okay, how can we score more? You see

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's a different way of looking at it.

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Speaker 1: But when you got that coach and again I had

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Speaker 1: your paternal in college, but there's coaches out there in

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Speaker 1: the national football they get e Bill Belichick whatever who

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Speaker 1: And I know Bill Belichick has a defensive specialty to it,

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Speaker 1: but can walk into any situation at halftime. Remember being

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Speaker 1: down by two touchdowns. I think it was the Green

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Speaker 1: Bay may have been to somebody else with the Seattle Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: and Pete Carroll walked into the offensive side and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: I know we're down by fourteen points, but we're gonna

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Speaker 1: go twenty two personnel with just two tight ends and

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Speaker 1: two running backs and one while receiving we're gonna go

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Speaker 1: twenty two and twenty one personnel, arrested the game and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna win. And we looked like but that goes

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Speaker 1: against conventional wisdom. He saw something, he saw that he

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Speaker 1: couldn't handle, beast mode. He saw the weak side run

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Speaker 1: game out of two tight ends they couldn't handle. Again,

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Speaker 1: a coach walking into a football situation and lending his expertise,

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Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, if we want

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Speaker 1: to lose, it falls on him. That's his job. That's

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Speaker 1: you see what I'm saying. So it's always nice from

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Speaker 1: a players standpoint to look at a guy and know

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Speaker 1: that you have a guy that can walk in any

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Speaker 1: situation to help you. If you're listening to this podcast,

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Speaker 1: well clearly you're listening to this podcast. But if you

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Speaker 1: just heard m Rob, well you did hear m Rob.

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Speaker 1: M Rob just said twenty two personnel. If that's confusing

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Speaker 1: to you, I do encourage people to go back to

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Speaker 1: one of our previous episodes where we talked about offensive

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Speaker 1: play calling and what that actually entails. It is a

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Speaker 1: great recap for anyone here that has been checking out

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Speaker 1: the NFL Explained podcast. Game Day sort of an interesting

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Speaker 1: scenario he got the morning of your your of course,

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Speaker 1: if you're a coach, you're looking at some of the

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Speaker 1: game film, that one last look at it. You're probably

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Speaker 1: with your family, maybe that pregame meal, going over some

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Speaker 1: last minute stuff. Late morning, you go from hotel to

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Speaker 1: the stadium, even if you're the home team, because the

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Speaker 1: home team also stays at a hotel. Once you get there,

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Speaker 1: you're making some determinations on actives and inactives. You're meeting

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Speaker 1: with your coaches, players, game officials, announcers as well. From

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Speaker 1: an inactive active selection. What goes into that if you're

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Speaker 1: a head coach, man first and foremost as injuries, Like

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Speaker 1: most guys are active or inactive based off of health.

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Speaker 1: Can they you know, can they physically go out there

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Speaker 1: and help the team and do their job and be

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Speaker 1: the best version of themselves. Yeah, you have guys that

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Speaker 1: are part of the fifty three man roster that you

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Speaker 1: already know, Okay, this guy probably will be inactive. Will

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Speaker 1: have them just in case somebody in this position group

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Speaker 1: goes down. But injuries determine a lot of those inactives.

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Speaker 1: Game plan like, okay, we want to run the football.

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Speaker 1: Going back to that example that I said a little

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Speaker 1: bit earlier, we're dealing with a high power team offensively,

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Speaker 1: we want to run the football because defensively we may

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Speaker 1: have some issues stopping the other team. So maybe we

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Speaker 1: bring up a running back this week, maybe we put

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Speaker 1: down a linebacker this week, and you kind of play

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Speaker 1: that chess game. And then last but not least, business man.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if I should be saying

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Speaker 1: it on the NFL podcast, but just me and you,

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Speaker 1: ain't just me and you, Okay, nobody else here, Okay, cool? Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, sometimes God may need some catches for a

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Speaker 1: certain incenter. Happened and they're like, well, you said what

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Speaker 1: about me? You said this about me. We're already losing. Um,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna be inactive today. We're not gonna You're not

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Speaker 1: gonna be able to get that bonus. Or Jimmy Garoppolo,

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Speaker 1: I mean, what if he was still what if Tree

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Speaker 1: Lance was still healthy or whatever, and Jimmy Garoppolo was

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Speaker 1: on the team, they probably make him inactive every week.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? So business does play a

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Speaker 1: role in its Super Bowl year for the Bucks. A

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago, Tom Brady was aware even Bruce

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Speaker 1: Arians had made reference to some guys being close to bonuses.

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Speaker 1: They made a concerted effort late in that season get

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Speaker 1: those dudes to ras. Sean m does the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Man who need a bonus? Give him a catch? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: get your dudes paid. You mentioned some of the in

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Speaker 1: game adjustments that come at halftime. You give us an

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Speaker 1: example before those big time speeches that we see in

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Speaker 1: the movies. Is that a thing? Uh no, not not

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Speaker 1: really is you? The speeches, the real good speeches to

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Speaker 1: me come from the players or the position coaches, because

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Speaker 1: that many and the fire man, I mean, they are

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Speaker 1: the ones that are literally going back and forth with

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Speaker 1: the opponent. You know what I'm saying. But one thing

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Speaker 1: a head coach can do. A head coach can alleviate

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Speaker 1: doubt at halftime. If you're doubting your team, if you're

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Speaker 1: doubting your opportunity to come back in a game, if

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Speaker 1: you're doubting your ability to finish, the head coach makes

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Speaker 1: you go. All that know the thirty three rule, Right

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Speaker 1: percent of people gonna be leaders three percent of people

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Speaker 1: are gonna be able to go either way in thirty three. Look, man,

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Speaker 1: I ain't doing it. The head coaches put that bottom

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Speaker 1: thirty three, the head coach goes after them, then the

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Speaker 1: upper thirty three. During that halftime speech raises all ships

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Speaker 1: coin flip. Who's making the call? Usually the head coach

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Speaker 1: come yeah. Usually the head coach will come over. I

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Speaker 1: know when I was always calling the coin flip, it

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Speaker 1: would always be so funny. It would always be the

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Speaker 1: head coach find me because out for whatever reason they

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Speaker 1: wanted me to talk. Head coach will find me. But

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Speaker 1: he would always have the field goal kicker right next

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Speaker 1: to him, and the field goals kicker basically look at

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Speaker 1: his thumb saying with direction, winds going throwing up grass,

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Speaker 1: acting like he's a mediologist. He's talking about whether and

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Speaker 1: the angles and degrees and in halftime, in the sunsets

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Speaker 1: and instead and uh yeah, but the final one comes

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Speaker 1: down to the head coach. Okay, I made reference to

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Speaker 1: coaches in their ages. A little bit earlier. We've taken

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Speaker 1: people through, generally speaking, what the coaches are doing during

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Speaker 1: the week, responsibilities calling plays. You're thinking to yourself, well,

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Speaker 1: you've got some coaches who already have coordinators. So who's

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Speaker 1: doing what. Here's how I'm gonna break it down for you.

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Speaker 1: Thirty two head coaches, eighteen of them call the plays

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Speaker 1: on defense or offense. As you could imagine, fourteen of

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Speaker 1: those coaches are calling offense, only four calling defense. And

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Speaker 1: just so that you have some sort of semblance of

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Speaker 1: whose specialty is what, I'll take you through it. Cliff Kingsbury,

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Speaker 1: Arthur Smith, Zach Taylor, Kevin Stefanski, Nathaniel Hackett, Moult Floor,

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Speaker 1: Frank Reich, Doug Peterson, Andy Reid, Josh McDaniels, Sean McVeigh,

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Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel, Kevin O'Connell, Kyle Shinahan. All on the offensive

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Speaker 1: side defensively, Love Smith, Brandon Staley, Dennis Allen, Todd Bowles.

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Speaker 1: Obvious question put Bill Belichick in that AMPK. They're both

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Speaker 1: defensive more sliding to that side. Well, we'll lean that way.

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Speaker 1: I think the obvious question here is have the eight

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Speaker 1: calling plays? What are you doing? Alright? Mike? You know

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Speaker 1: I meditate right then I'll tell you that you actually

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Speaker 1: didn't tell me. I feel like I would have. I'm

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Speaker 1: really deep when it comes to that and meditation really

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Speaker 1: is the ability to stay focused on one thing without

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Speaker 1: allowing other stuff in. And your reality comes with what

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Speaker 1: you focus on the most stuff. You see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: The head coach's job is to keep a pulse on

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Speaker 1: the team and to remind everyone with the direction and

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Speaker 1: the purpose always is he keeps the team focused so

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Speaker 1: that the reality that the entire team wants can come

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Speaker 1: to fruition. Now, things happen. We're all human, and that

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Speaker 1: conscious focus on that goal sometimes gets skewed. You know, somebody,

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Speaker 1: you know the media starts talking about their head coaches

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Speaker 1: job being up, you know, up for grabs or whatever.

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Speaker 1: That can skew his focus and things like that. But

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Speaker 1: the good ones stay focused. I love Bill Belichick. Man,

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Speaker 1: you hear them here at the press conference. He's the

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Speaker 1: same old dude. He may gave you a little half smile,

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Speaker 1: but he's the same old dude over and over and over.

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Speaker 1: And another thing the head coach does, because it's in

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Speaker 1: humans nature, it's the blame it on somebody, right, we

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Speaker 1: lose put the finger point the finger, and that's good

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Speaker 1: mental health for the players, right, because you don't want

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Speaker 1: them to be down on themselves. And that's why you

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Speaker 1: always see the good coaches, I e. Sean McVeigh, I

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Speaker 1: either Pete Carroll's the Bill Beck that was on me.

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Speaker 1: I did that. That was on me. Any decisions that

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Speaker 1: they're making that I'm not thinking of during the game.

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Speaker 1: And to me, like Brandon Stalley, I just brought his

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Speaker 1: damn like he's gotten a lot of heat for like

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Speaker 1: those fourth down, fourth down penalty outcomes, whether to go

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Speaker 1: for it or not on fourth down. I think you

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Speaker 1: would just going there with Brandon Staley whether to kick

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Speaker 1: a field goal punt or not. Talk to the Whitehattan

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Speaker 1: officials and to make them to wear of their jobs.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm um guarantee the players need are

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Speaker 1: being met in armed to do their job effectively, basically

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Speaker 1: meaning putting the pressure on the assistant coaches so that

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Speaker 1: these guys are armed to do their job again keeping

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Speaker 1: everybody focused on the goal at hand. Is there. Look,

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Speaker 1: I just mentioned that the some of the coaches that

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Speaker 1: we have in the NFL, there's some really high level

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Speaker 1: guys that have achieved so much in this league. When

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Speaker 1: you reflect back to you that you're playing days or

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Speaker 1: guys that you've been around, anyone that comes to mind,

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Speaker 1: and you would say, hey, revolutionize the game. Revolutionized the game. Um,

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Speaker 1: you hit me. You hear me talk a lot about

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll. I think his approach as far as being

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Speaker 1: more of a player coach, always focusing on the positive,

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Speaker 1: never really bringing up or highlighting the negativity, was revolutionary.

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Speaker 1: And I think his first stint as a head coach,

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Speaker 1: the league wasn't ready for it. The second stint, the

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Speaker 1: league was ready for the right young person started to

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Speaker 1: come through. People may not know this, but Mike Marts

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Speaker 1: the par exactly the greatest show on turf for the St.

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Speaker 1: Louis Rams. He was my offensive coordinator in San Francisco

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Speaker 1: for a couple of years, and I think he revolutionized

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Speaker 1: offense with timing and spacing and the quarterback being able

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Speaker 1: to hit his last step, let the ball go to

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Speaker 1: an area, to a space, and allowing the receiver to

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Speaker 1: come into Things like that are now just part of

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Speaker 1: everyday vernacular, part of everyday NFL concept. You know what's

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Speaker 1: sort of interesting. I keep seeing Kyle Shanahan. I've been

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Speaker 1: up to the Bay Area numerous times. I know obviously

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Speaker 1: I saw his dad, Mike, what he was able to

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Speaker 1: do with the Broncos for a really long period of

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Speaker 1: time and have success there. I'm always fascinated by like

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Speaker 1: the father sons, like what those calls are on those

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Speaker 1: off days, like if Dad's been watching something, It's almost

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Speaker 1: like having an additional coat. Like now your staff, the

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Speaker 1: Shannon has I'm actually glad you said that. Now they

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Speaker 1: have been revolutionary. I've never played with, but you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously Bill Walsh, most of the West Coast concepts are

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Speaker 1: now just regularly just part of everyday football. Mike Shanahan,

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Speaker 1: shan and those guys, that's Shanahan style. That the way

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Speaker 1: that you run the football, the way that you coach

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Speaker 1: the offensive line, the way that you coach the running

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Speaker 1: back to get to a spot and make a decision,

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Speaker 1: and then it's easy playing it after that. I do

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Speaker 1: think that Shanahan system is revolution as the game. But

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Speaker 1: then you have guys like Matt Lafleur who went his

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Speaker 1: way with it. You got Sean McVeigh who out leverages

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Speaker 1: defenses by motion shifts in the wide receiver diversity that

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Speaker 1: he has. That's how he went his way with it.

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan and younger Shanahan the way he outleverages defenses

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Speaker 1: by not only motions and shifts, but by the ball

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Speaker 1: carrier who's carrying the football, and just in the run game.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think that there's a better guy at

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Speaker 1: out leveraging a defense. So he took that Shanahan, his

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Speaker 1: dad Shanahan offense to a whole another direction. I think

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Speaker 1: the Shanahan system right now is probably the most revolutionary

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Speaker 1: system in today's modern game. Yeah, it's kind of wild

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Speaker 1: man like. And I wonder what those conversations are really

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Speaker 1: like between those two dudes when they're just talking ball. Like,

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Speaker 1: if God's like, dude, I'm proud of you, like this

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Speaker 1: is sure he is, But I guarantee you he's challenging

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Speaker 1: them that, well, if a defense does this, you can't

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Speaker 1: do this and coles hell dad. But if I do

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Speaker 1: this in the backfield, my backfield action is this, his

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Speaker 1: eyes are gonna go here. It's a big game with

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Speaker 1: chess man. Yeah. I remember when I first got to ESPN,

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Speaker 1: someone gave me a piece of advice. They said, look,

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Speaker 1: you're working with so many different anchors and hosts. Take

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Speaker 1: and see what people are doing and use it yourself.

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Speaker 1: But like, your own style is gonna morph out of

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Speaker 1: that just naturally from just doing your thing. You can't

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Speaker 1: mimic and completely copy someone else. And I think the

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Speaker 1: way you just described it with a lot of these coaches,

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Speaker 1: it's the same thing, right, Like there's some core base

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Speaker 1: concepts that are there, and then everyone just sort of

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Speaker 1: puts their little pixie dust, their personal pixie dust on it,

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Speaker 1: and it becomes their own. It becomes their own. And

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Speaker 1: even when you look at if you really study Bill

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Speaker 1: Walsh and his story, I mean he talks about it offers.

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Speaker 1: I think we may have talked about it here. He

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Speaker 1: talked about developing this offense out of desperation. I mean,

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Speaker 1: stuff was happening, Injuries was happening, and they had a

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Speaker 1: certain quarterback at So that's how the West Coach short

767
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Speaker 1: passing system came to voition Oftentimes as injuries oftentimes, it's

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Speaker 1: things that are happening human human beings are very smart.

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Speaker 1: Things are happening with their team, and you're just like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: how can I figure this out. That's how the spread

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Speaker 1: system went in. That's how read option happened, that's how

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Speaker 1: all pos happened. Oh my office line isn't that good? Well,

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Speaker 1: everybody blocked down we'll just handle everybody with the ball.

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Speaker 1: Handling ball travels faster thing than players, and that's how

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Speaker 1: that came to us. I love it. Man, talk about

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00:38:31,826 --> 00:38:34,466
Speaker 1: this all day, No seriously, and look, we can and

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Speaker 1: we will continue to have these types of conversations throughout

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Speaker 1: the course of the season. We've been talking a little

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Speaker 1: bit about the duties of a head football coach. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: you've enjoyed this episode and if you didn't, you just

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Speaker 1: get into Mike robs d m at Real and my

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Speaker 1: wife said, no at Real, Mic rob at Mike underscore. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: NFL head coaches and what they do, explain, no,