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Speaker 1: Today, I effed up by getting a DNA test and

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Speaker 1: revealing a family secret. This is Okop, home to the

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Speaker 1: craziest true stories on Earth. I'm Sophia and Riley. What's

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Speaker 1: your craziest secret?

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Speaker 2: I'm amphibious, I could use the left and right.

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Speaker 1: You aready here first.

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Speaker 3: You heard it here first, folk, You're to hear brother.

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Speaker 1: So wycz Star says. I've always been interested in doing

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Speaker 1: one of those at home kits that tells you your

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Speaker 1: ethnicity estimates. My mother has for many years claimed that

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Speaker 1: her own great grandmother was completely Native American, and I

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Speaker 1: recently learned that this is apparently something common for Southerners to.

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Speaker 2: Claim I am part Native American.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that it is rarely true.

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Speaker 2: Well wait, no, wait, I have I have facts to

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Speaker 2: back this up.

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Speaker 1: I finally went ahead and bought one of the kids,

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Speaker 1: because there's nothing I enjoy more in life than proving

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Speaker 1: my mother wrong. Fast forward a few weeks. I get

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Speaker 1: my results. I'm I am zero percent Native American?

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Speaker 2: Are you happy now?

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Speaker 1: Which isn't exactly shocking. The real surprise comes from the

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Speaker 1: fact that I'm also zero percent Eastern European. What this

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Speaker 1: probably wouldn't mean much for most people, but I happened

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Speaker 1: to be Polish, or at least I thought I was.

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Speaker 1: I have an unpronounceable, very Polish last name. My great

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Speaker 1: grandparents were Polish speaking immigrants. My paternal grandfather himself spoke

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Speaker 1: Polish as a child. My first thought was that the

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Speaker 1: test was a mistake. My results came over a week

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Speaker 1: before the projected arrival date, and I knew I should

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Speaker 1: be somewhere around twenty five percent Polish slash Eastern European.

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Speaker 1: So maybe there had been an error somewhere at the lab.

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Speaker 2: So what do you think after hearing this? What could

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Speaker 2: it be?

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Speaker 1: Immediate thought, she's not related based on the title. Also,

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Speaker 1: and also the fact that nothing that what her family

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Speaker 1: told her about her heritage is true for her m.

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Speaker 2: Can't be related, can't be related. Yeah, but does she

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Speaker 2: say she's white? I think so, she's a white sevener

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Speaker 1: Anyway, I started digging around through my DNA relative matches.

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Speaker 1: I had matched with an extended cousin with my mom's

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Speaker 1: maiden name living in the state that she grew up in.

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Speaker 1: So the DNA analyzed was definitely mine and this was

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Speaker 1: not a switch tube situation. There were only two possible explanations.

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Speaker 1: Either my own dad was not my biological father, or

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Speaker 1: my Polish grandfather was not the biological father of my dad.

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Speaker 2: Which one would you want, Grandpa? You would want your

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Speaker 2: grandpa not to be your biological daughter to your father?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would want my grandpa to not be my

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Speaker 2: Okay, but I okay, Like.

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Speaker 1: That would suck for my dad, but better for me.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Dad, you're gonna have to bear that burden.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I look a lot like my father, so it seemed

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Speaker 1: unlikely that we weren't related. However, there was no strong

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Speaker 1: family resemblance between my dad and his own father. In fact,

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Speaker 1: my grandfather and many of his siblings we'll call it

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Speaker 1: striking nose that my sister and I had often rejoiced

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Speaker 1: in not inheriting. Also, my paternal grandparents had a disastrous

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Speaker 1: marriage and a bitter divorce. An affair did not seem

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Speaker 2: Oh so the grandmother, Yeah, grandmama might have had an affair. No,

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Speaker 2: oh no, yeah, Oh, I wonder if she's close with them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. My paternal grandfather died over ten years ago, but

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Speaker 1: my paternal grandmother is still living and I gave her

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Speaker 1: a call. It took a while for me to fully

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Speaker 1: explain the DNA testing to her, she's eighty seven, but

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Speaker 1: we got there. She denied it and tried to explain

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Speaker 1: that I would be able to test relatives from the

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Speaker 1: Polish side of the family and determine whether or not

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Speaker 1: I was actually related to them. Oh, she told me

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Speaker 2: Dude. So she's denying it.

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Speaker 1: She's denying it, but she's like, also, don't fact check, man,

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Speaker 2: This is why wrong, But don't tell it. Grandpa died

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Speaker 2: not knowing. Yeah, and this is still a lot.

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Speaker 1: They were divorced.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that's still they were divorced. Yeah, okay, but still,

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Speaker 2: I mean, no, I don't.

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Speaker 1: Think he did know. It doesn't seem like he did.

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Speaker 1: wasn't until today, two days later, that she finally admitted

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Speaker 1: it to my sister. My father had been lied to

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Speaker 1: my actual paternal grandfather to be determined. My grandmother promised

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Speaker 1: my sister that she'll tell the two everything when my

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Speaker 2: They put it on Reddit. Yeah yeah, so like literally

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Grandma was like, don't anyone and they were like,

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Speaker 1: what if we told what if we didn't know the

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Speaker 2: Does that matter? That does bring up I would rather

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Speaker 2: tell a stranger my deepest, darker secret absolutely anyone else. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: oh everyone feels that way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah for me at least, I can't tell everyone, but

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Speaker 1: like I feel like, you know, I meet strangers and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, this happened to me, DELI I feel

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Speaker 1: never tell you know, a person I've known for years?

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Speaker 1: That interesting. But there is an update.

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Speaker 2: There is an update.

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Speaker 1: Gotta get juicy.

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Speaker 2: What do you think? Yeah, her excuse would be there.

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Speaker 1: Was only one time. Yeah, but I think yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think she's gonna be like, I didn't mean to do it.

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Speaker 4: It was you know, our marriage was failing. It was

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Speaker 4: a different time. I didn't know how to divorce. But

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Speaker 4: I still love you and your grand your father loved you. Wow,

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Speaker 4: it was a different time. I hated your father. He

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Speaker 1: That's all. Sorry, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: That was good. Yeah, I like accent.

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Speaker 1: That was good. Let's get into this update. In my

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Speaker 1: previous post, I said that my grandmother promised to tell

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Speaker 1: all when my sister comes to town next week. Officially,

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Speaker 1: that is still the plan, but my sister, who apparently

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Speaker 1: what actually happened, and it is dot dot dot interesting. Mmm,

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Speaker 1: it's juicy. Without going too much into my family history.

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Speaker 1: When I first noticed the inconsistencies in my DNA test,

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Speaker 1: I had an early idea who might be my bioperternal grandfather. Basically,

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Speaker 1: my grandmother had a long time family friend that she

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Speaker 1: had known even before my grandfather PG. To try and

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Speaker 1: them as PG for Polish grand and BEG for Biograndpa.

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Speaker 1: Got it. She and his friend maintained contact for years

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Speaker 1: and years, all the way until both of their second

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Speaker 1: spouses had died and they married each other. Wait, their

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Speaker 1: kids had grown up together even before they became step

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Speaker 1: extended family as quote unquote aunts and uncles, even though

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Speaker 1: Biograndpa died when I was a baby, almost thirty years ago.

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Speaker 1: Over the years, there has been mild speculation that Biograndpa

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Speaker 1: has possibly fathered my dad's younger brother, so they already suspected.

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Speaker 1: No one really took it all that seriously, but he

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Speaker 1: did look an awful lot like one of Biograndpa's and

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Speaker 1: his wife's kids. Wait, oh, so they say, yeah younger brother,

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Speaker 2: Two for two, two for oh.

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Speaker 1: Because of this, the day I got my test results

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Speaker 1: and figured out what they probably meant, I called my

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Speaker 1: one of Biograndpa's grandchildren who might be blood related to her.

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Speaker 1: Would it be it would be her second cousin. Telling

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Speaker 1: this information to Grandma was what finally made her admit it,

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Speaker 1: I was going to be matched as a cousin with

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Speaker 1: my sister's best friend, who, although considered a part of

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Speaker 1: to me. But here's where it gets a little confusing.

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Speaker 1: My grandmother claims that Polish Grandpa was sterile as the

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Speaker 1: result of something that happened to him in World War Two. No,

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Speaker 1: she says all three of her children are biologically from Biograndpa,

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Speaker 1: but that it was all done intentionally through artificial insemination.

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Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait, wait, waity, are there technology back then?

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Speaker 1: I guess so I didn't. I was also surprised about that.

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Speaker 2: Also, we have not read this story. I know it.

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Speaker 2: We have, I've checked. It. Just sounds so similar to

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Speaker 2: others who also known this. I've never heard this story.

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Speaker 2: This is wildly believed. This was artificial insemination.

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Speaker 1: You don't believe it, don't.

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Speaker 2: I know, we have a little bit more to go through,

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Speaker 2: but I don't believe it. I think he was boinking her.

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Speaker 2: I think it was. I think it was true, raw dog,

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Speaker 2: old fashioned semination. Yeah, ain't, no way they had artificial

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Speaker 2: inmation in the seventies.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, well, it was artificial face right now, in

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Speaker 1: semination invented. Hold on, we're looking it up. Eighteen ninety nine,

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Speaker 1: eighteen ninety nine, so that's the World War two, you know,

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Speaker 1: wasn't that? So he would have come back latest like

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Speaker 2: How much did it cost though? Did everyone know about this?

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Speaker 1: It was probably expensive, But let me.

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Speaker 2: Chat to be tea this shit. It gained significant traction

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Speaker 2: in the nineteen fifties.

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Speaker 1: So it could have been this. This could be true,

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Speaker 1: but bye.

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Speaker 2: But it says particularly with the development of sperm banks

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Speaker 1: Maybe they live in Iowa.

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Speaker 2: What there's no way.

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Speaker 1: What we're hearing is that it is possible for Grandma

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Speaker 1: to have gotten artificially inseminated. That's what I'm hearing. We're

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Speaker 1: a secret from everyone, including my dad and his siblings,

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Speaker 1: because she's worried that people will assume the worst about her.

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Speaker 1: My dad and his siblings were born in the early

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Speaker 1: nineteen fifties. Does anyone know what the odds of this were?

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Speaker 1: How common was artificial insemination back then?

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Speaker 3: We just looked that up.

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Speaker 2: Not common? ILESSU in Iowa.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, but like but not impossible. Would someone have

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Speaker 1: really used a friend as a donor more than three

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Speaker 1: separate times. My grandmother had at least one miscarriage that

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Speaker 1: I remember her telling me about at some point. My

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Speaker 1: grandmother has a known history of rewriting events in her favor. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I guess it really does not matter at this point

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Speaker 1: why Biograndpa was the father. But it's really frustrating to

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Speaker 1: feel like she might just be throwing in war lies

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Speaker 1: on top of everything. And then some answers to common

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Speaker 1: questions from my last post.

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Speaker 2: So do you think it was artificial insemination? I'm hooked

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Speaker 2: on this.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: She did say she rewrites things in her favor, and

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Speaker 2: it was not popular really in nineteen fifty she has

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Speaker 2: a one to fifty or one of I don't know

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Speaker 1: It's they're really uncovered so much.

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Speaker 1: She there's some some more secrets to be uncovered, the

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Speaker 3: In a world.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have a partner, Yeah, and you're like hysterile. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: You'd be okay. Yeah, I studying your heart. You want

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is another Sofia that really wants to birth

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Speaker 2: What are you doing? Where are you going?

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Speaker 5: Hmm.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I would only do that if I could get.

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Speaker 2: So not one of your friends, I don't know, I'd

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Speaker 1: I definitely wouldn't choose Sam.

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Speaker 2: No, not you. But I'm just saying with my partner.

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Speaker 1: Maybe a friend, maybe I'd have to think about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, who's good to look?

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. No, the other musical friend that I'm

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Speaker 2: Matthew McConaughey. Well, yeah, that's I would pick. Yes, I

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Speaker 2: figured it. I need a text on that.

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Speaker 6: I caught my son hooking up with my brother's wife,

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Speaker 6: I forty four female, walked in on my son, eighteen male,

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Speaker 3: The day my brother arrived, I wanted to get.

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Speaker 6: Groceries with my son, and we went to the pharmacy

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Speaker 5: He's probably a beefcake, this eighteen year old. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 5: I just lifted you like this brother's wife like these

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Speaker 3: He's just like, Oh, look at that. You guess a

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 6: I saw some protection in my son's plastic bag.

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Speaker 3: Huh.

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Speaker 6: I saw them when we arrived at the house. Two

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Speaker 3: I mean that's a lot. Hey, what else are you

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Speaker 3: going to do during COVID? What else are you going

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Speaker 6: I didn't think anything of it. I thought he had

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Speaker 3: You know, running guy.

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Speaker 6: There's plenty of Strava running guys. You know they're they're

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Speaker 6: I asked them about it, and they just said they

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Speaker 3: Oh no, what does she say? Room for one more?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: Done?

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Speaker 3: You started it? You started?

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Speaker 5: I would never say anything like that, roll it back,

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Speaker 6: It got worse. I decided to join in. Now you

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Speaker 3: What did OP do?

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Speaker 6: I didn't confront them because I was so in shock.

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Speaker 6: Now I still haven't told anyone what I saw, and

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Speaker 6: I don't know what to do. Should I confront them?

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Speaker 6: Should I tell my brother? Should I tell my husband?

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Speaker 6: I am so confused. You could definitely tell your brother,

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Speaker 6: bro yes, family before the hose. I've been doing a

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Speaker 6: lot of thinking, and I'm sure that they've been doing

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Speaker 6: run or are they just doing it the close relationship,

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Speaker 6: they've been doing it for ages. But there's something else, Sam,

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Speaker 6: tell me there's an update.

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Speaker 3: There's an update? Well, really quick? She should tell the

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Speaker 6: First want to thank everyone for the advice I got

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Speaker 3: I'll try to keep this update short.

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Speaker 6: As was suggested by many of the comments, I decided

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Speaker 3: My husband lost it. At first.

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Speaker 6: He thought it was a joke, which is reasonable because

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Speaker 6: and do together.

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Speaker 4: Yo.

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Speaker 5: Wow, his heart must have sunk when he read that

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Speaker 3: He did not deny anything.

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Speaker 6: He told us him and the sister in law have

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Speaker 3: Yikes, yikes.

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Speaker 6: My brother said it started on the sister in law's birthday.

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Speaker 6: He attended where they got wasted and started doing it

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Speaker 6: My husband just lost it and told my son to

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Speaker 6: stormed into my brother's room and told my brother everything.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 6: And at this moment, the sister in law was not

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Speaker 6: at the house. My brother lost it, packed his stuff

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Speaker 6: and took the kids.

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Speaker 3: They know they have kids, and left.

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Speaker 6: He asked where my son had gone and said he

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Speaker 6: wanted to teach him a lesson.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 6: It's some country sick in justice. We didn't tell him

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Speaker 6: and he eventually left. Sister in law didn't return. I

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Speaker 6: think my brother might have called her or my son

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Speaker 6: warned her, and she's afraid to come back. Her things

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Speaker 6: are still at the house. In all the screaming and shouting,

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Speaker 6: my daughter's heard everything and are devastated that their family

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Speaker 6: might be ruined, and they missed their brother and are

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Speaker 6: afraid my husband won't ever let him in the house again.

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Speaker 6: My husband hates all forms of infidelity to the core

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Speaker 6: and has always drilled us into our two eldest heads

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Speaker 6: that they must never cheat on anyone or be in

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Speaker 6: a relationship with someone else in a relationship. I know

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Speaker 6: I did nothing wrong in this, but how will I

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Speaker 6: ever look my brother in the eye again. He won't

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Speaker 6: answer calls or texts. My husband said I should just

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Speaker 6: leave him, give him time to heal. My son has

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Speaker 6: left the condo because he's afraid of what my brother

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Speaker 6: will do.

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Speaker 3: To him, dangy.

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Speaker 6: They're on site with it, like this is crazy, and

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Speaker 6: he's now hiding in a friend's ause and he won't

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Speaker 6: tell us which friend.

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Speaker 3: No word on the sister in law.

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Speaker 6: How to fuck up your family one oh one. I mean,

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Speaker 6: there is no more effective.

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Speaker 5: Method, no, no, no, this really go You go nucular,

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Speaker 5: you know, if you want to destroy your family, that's

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Speaker 5: how you do it. I don't think op did anything wrong.

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Speaker 5: It's just such a fucking hard situation. She fallout sucks.

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Speaker 6: She was handed the you know, the flaming bag of cram,

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Speaker 6: which you know what I mean. He's like, literally like

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Speaker 6: what again? What else can you do? She had you

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Speaker 6: had to tell.

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Speaker 3: Him It's not a good.

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Speaker 1: Sentue, not not at all.

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Speaker 6: If you thought this was crazy, check out this one

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Speaker 6: where Opie finds out they're dating their brother,