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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to movie Mike's movie podcast. I

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Speaker 1: am your host Movie Mike. Today, my wife and co

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Speaker 1: host Kelsey joins me. How are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm good, aside, I'm being a little bit under the weather,

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Speaker 2: so sorry if my voice is a little scratchy.

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Speaker 1: Best and Worst of the month is what we're gonna

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Speaker 1: do talking about all the movies we saw in October.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get into some movie news too, which I

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Speaker 1: have read the entire Variety article diving into what is

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Speaker 1: happening at Marvel right now, so I'll give you my

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Speaker 1: thoughts on that. Kelsey has something festive coming up for

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Speaker 1: that segment, we'll get into the movie review, we'll get

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Speaker 1: into the trailer park. Thank you for being here, shout

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Speaker 1: out to the Monday Morning Movie crew. And now let's

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Speaker 1: talk movies.

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Speaker 1: From the Nashville Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Network, this is Movie Mike's Movie.

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Speaker 1: Podcast Best and Worst for the month of October. Kelsey,

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Speaker 1: you kick us off. What was your best movie of

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Speaker 1: the month. I think it's obvious Teller's The Flower Move

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Speaker 1: That is mine too. We had to go double here.

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Speaker 2: A comboo bass movie of the month. There was no

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Speaker 2: other contender.

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Speaker 1: I found myself coming back to thinking about that movie

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Speaker 1: more and more, and maybe it's a little bit overcritical.

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Speaker 1: Giving it a four. I still stand by it, but

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Speaker 1: I think after I watch it for a second time,

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Speaker 1: a little bit. That given myself a little bit more

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Speaker 1: time to spend with it and look back on some

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Speaker 1: things I didn't like upon the first watch, maybe I

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Speaker 1: like it a little bit more and judge it a

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Speaker 1: little less harshly the second time. But is that a

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Speaker 1: movie you would consider watching again even though it's so long?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I bought it again, especially at home when

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Speaker 2: I can take breaks.

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Speaker 1: And I did see an interesting survey come out recently

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Speaker 1: if there should be an intermission between movies shown in theaters,

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Speaker 1: and there are different options here, so let me know

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Speaker 1: where you stand. Twelve percent said yes for all movies

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Speaker 1: there should be an internation, twenty three percent yes for

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Speaker 1: movies two hours or longer, twenty four percent of people

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Speaker 1: said yes. For movies that are three hours or longer,

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Speaker 1: twenty five percent say no, and for some reason, seventeen

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Speaker 1: percent say not sure. Where do you stand on should

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Speaker 1: there be intermissions for longer movies in theaters?

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Speaker 2: As a resonant member of the tiny bladder community.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you represent that demographic.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to shock you're gonna say no.

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Speaker 1: No whatsoever, it messes up the flow of the movie.

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Speaker 2: I don't have the lights to go up. I don't

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Speaker 2: want everyone to be milling around. No messes the flow.

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Speaker 2: When do you do the intermission? What if halfway through

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Speaker 2: the movie there's a critical plot point, You're just like,

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Speaker 2: all right, time for everyone to go pee, come back

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Speaker 1: No exactly. I see a lot of things wrong with this.

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Speaker 1: So I don't have a small bladder, but I am

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Speaker 1: right nice. I'm right there with the no twenty five percent.

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Speaker 1: I say no because along those same lines, I think

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Speaker 1: a director would have to start thinking of when do

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Speaker 1: I place the brig It kills the momentum. There could

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Speaker 2: I feel like it makes sense in like theater because

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Speaker 2: you also have the performers who probably need a break.

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Speaker 2: But this is not a live entertainment and a live.

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Speaker 1: Show, I feel like there are more natural spots where

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Speaker 2: What if you have people in the intermission that run

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Speaker 2: Queen Taylor Swift doesn't need an intermission. We all can

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Speaker 2: It depends on why people are coming to the back.

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Speaker 1: I guess it depends what you have going on. But

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Here's the other thing. Our theater, they only have

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Speaker 2: they're all gonna be upstairs. They're all still gonna miss

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Speaker 2: So no one's gonna be happy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, i'd say you don't do them at all. If

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Speaker 1: But maybe anything over three hours. You could offer different

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Speaker 1: I also think that theaters would be into it because,

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Speaker 2: So I want to miss it. So yeah, theaters, if

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Speaker 1: Man, because like what you said with the Taylor Swift movie,

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Speaker 2: You go, wow, I already forgot. I saw the eras.

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Speaker 1: Is that my favorite? Oh? Is that your favorite?

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Speaker 2: Are we having like a an on air audible?

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Speaker 1: to the Taylor Swift Eras movie. It is just a

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Speaker 2: I would agree. I think I'm gonna keep Killers to

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Speaker 1: Even that was two hours forty six minutes.

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Speaker 1: The other thing that we didn't mention whenever we did

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised that you agreed with this too. No intermissions

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think it's going to ruin the flow

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Speaker 1: I agree. So now we'll get into our worst. What

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Speaker 2: Oh god, this movie was so bad? Fair play on Netflix.

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Speaker 1: What is this movie about? We've both watched it together.

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Speaker 1: You wanted to watch it? I did, and the trailer

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's about a Wall Street couple. She

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Speaker 1: The movie was a train wreck. It was this is

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Speaker 1: a disaster described as an erotic thriller. Did you find

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Speaker 2: You listen there are times when I understand that an

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Speaker 2: then there are times where it's just like gratuitous and

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Speaker 2: it's like why was this here? Every intimate scene in

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Speaker 2: this movie, I was like, what am I watching?

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Speaker 1: Scarred the opening scene alone, Yeah, it's like, what are

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Speaker 2: I think we did say that. I think we said

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Speaker 2: and you said, what did you pick? And I was like, well,

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Speaker 2: it's supposed to be good.

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Speaker 1: And it did get better after that.

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Speaker 1: I know where this is going, guys.

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Speaker 2: It's the twentieth anniversary of Elf, which does indeed make

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Speaker 1: I can't believe that movie is twenty years old. And

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Speaker 1: This sounds like your dream you love New York City.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you love New York, you love Elf. This

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Speaker 1: So they're doing merch for the twentieth anniversary. Yes, and

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Speaker 1: Let me see it. I actually like that good because

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Speaker 2: And Christmas tree is already up it's the one in

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Speaker 1: So we're replacing the Bye Buddy, I hope you found

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Speaker 1: And I did say they're also going to put it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're really really leaning into like the merch collapse,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know, maybe next week I'll come report

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Speaker 1: It has to be movie related.

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Speaker 2: All of these things are Elf. They're doing some ELF candles.

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Speaker 2: You know, I love a candle?

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Speaker 1: We went in deep into the vault for Christmas movie.

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Speaker 1: the entire time that they had riding up till endgame,

441
00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,440
Speaker 1: and it just kind of broke down, and you also

442
00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,800
Speaker 1: lose a lot of those big characters. And then the

443
00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,879
Speaker 1: thing is Marvel started with unknown characters. There is a

444
00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,480
Speaker 1: reason whenever Marvel movies were first made that they came

445
00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,600
Speaker 1: out with Spider Man, Fantastic Four, and the X Men,

446
00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,159
Speaker 1: because those were the biggest comics. Naturally, those would be

447
00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,520
Speaker 1: the first big movie they would make. And then Marvel

448
00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,160
Speaker 1: sold off the rights to those movies. So then they

449
00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,400
Speaker 1: started in two thousand and eight with Ironman, who wasn't

450
00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,239
Speaker 1: the most popular Marvel comic. And that's exactly how they

451
00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:13,080
Speaker 1: built the entire MCU with using the lesser known characters

452
00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,000
Speaker 1: that they had the rights to to make the films

453
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Speaker 1: with Thor and Captain America. And but that's what their

454
00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,760
Speaker 1: model was, Let's use these lesser known characters that we

455
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Speaker 1: have the rights to and create something unique and create

456
00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,640
Speaker 1: a cinematic universe. That is exactly what they built their

457
00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,800
Speaker 1: brand on. But now that you don't have those characters anymore,

458
00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,399
Speaker 1: you don't have those actors, they're trying to do essentially

459
00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,320
Speaker 1: the same thing they did back in two thousand and

460
00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,640
Speaker 1: eight with all these newer characters, that they do have,

461
00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,040
Speaker 1: but the interest just isn't there as much because of

462
00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,080
Speaker 1: the saturation. So I feel like it's a saturation problem,

463
00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,439
Speaker 1: which leads me back to the point I brought up

464
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Speaker 1: before that Marvel could go the way of the Western,

465
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Speaker 1: which the Western film was the most popular between nineteen

466
00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,399
Speaker 1: forty five and nineteen sixty for fifteen years. You look

467
00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,119
Speaker 1: at the timeline right now, from two thousand and eight

468
00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,680
Speaker 1: to twenty twenty three, that's fifteen years. That's the same

469
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Speaker 1: run good mental math skills. Oh thank you, it's the

470
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 1: same thing happening. You're bringing out the same type of

471
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,280
Speaker 1: stories inside of the same genre. The audiences just start

472
00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,800
Speaker 1: to wear down a little bit too many movies, and

473
00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,280
Speaker 1: then what happened back in the sixties is you had

474
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Speaker 1: the rise of sci fi, therefore making the Western look obsolete.

475
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Speaker 1: I feel like that's gonna kind of happen right now

476
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,040
Speaker 1: if they don't make a big change. I still think

477
00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,400
Speaker 1: you can make superhero movies. I just think you kind

478
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,440
Speaker 1: of have to scale back the budget and make something

479
00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 1: a little bit more novel. What I think Marvel is

480
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,360
Speaker 1: missing is what DC is about to crush it with

481
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 1: and having these else worlds that are rated r that

482
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,199
Speaker 1: are not in this big continuous this happens and this

483
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,240
Speaker 1: movie connects with this one. They're just their own thing.

484
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Speaker 1: But I think the problem that Marvel has is being

485
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 1: connected to Disney. They just want the money and they

486
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 1: want all the things to go back to Disney World

487
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 1: and disney Land, so it kind of cuts back on

488
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 1: their creativity a little bit. And even with Kevin Figi,

489
00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,080
Speaker 1: who oversees Marvel, he spreads so thin right now that

490
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 1: he doesn't really have the same attention to detail that

491
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Speaker 1: he had early on when developing the MCU, and that's

492
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Speaker 1: why nothing really feels cohesive anymore. So I didn't really

493
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Speaker 1: think Marvel was in trouble until I read this article

494
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 1: and saw everything kind of laid out. And now the

495
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,120
Speaker 1: whole issue they have with Jonathan Major's probably not continuing

496
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Speaker 1: as Kang, and they have really haven't had any time

497
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 1: because of the writers strike to write him out of that,

498
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Speaker 1: they may go with Doctor Doom, who I don't love

499
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,399
Speaker 1: that decision because Doctor Doom seems so cheesy in the

500
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 1: Fantastic Four movies. Unless they really give him the right tone,

501
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 1: then you have the villain issue again.

502
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Speaker 2: I would like to say that we definitely agree with.

503
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Speaker 1: Them writing Jonathan mac oh, Yeah, just.

504
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Speaker 2: Making that known that, Yeah, I'm not on the side

505
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Speaker 2: of him.

506
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Speaker 1: As much as I loved him and amp Man, he

507
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 1: shouldn't be Kang the Conqueror anymore. They could recast him,

508
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 1: which I feel like would be the easiest choice, since

509
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Speaker 1: they don't have a way to write him out because

510
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Speaker 1: they were basing everything on that character. I think switching

511
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Speaker 1: to doctor Doom would be like, oh, Man, but he

512
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 1: wanted to see King.

513
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Speaker 2: That just sounds like a dumb character name King.

514
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Speaker 1: No, oh, doctor Doom. People love him because of the comics,

515
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 1: which he's great in the comics, but if you look

516
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 1: at the Fantastic Four movies, he looks so cheesy. So

517
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 1: you'd have to make him a lot more like Thanos

518
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Speaker 1: and give him some kind of a human quality to

519
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Speaker 1: make me really interested in Doctor Doom.

520
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Speaker 2: But he's a therapist.

521
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, everybody's biggest fear therapy facing your demons. But yeah,

522
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 1: I think they need to scale back. I think they

523
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,439
Speaker 1: need to make movies for a more modest budget. I

524
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Speaker 1: also think the problem Marvel has is they don't have

525
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Speaker 1: the same source material, like the same great stories that

526
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Speaker 1: DC has. Which, as you know, I mean getting more

527
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Speaker 1: into comics.

528
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Speaker 2: Lately, wasn't aware.

529
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Speaker 1: And I'm really more drawn to DC's stories because they

530
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 1: can be grittier and they show you a different style

531
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Speaker 1: of superhero. And then when I look into the Marvel

532
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 1: back catalog of comics and try to find the one

533
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Speaker 1: singular story for some of these characters, it's not as

534
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: strong as it is on the DC side. So I

535
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 1: feel like they need to dig through their source material

536
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: and find the really great stories that showcase their superheroes

537
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 1: in ways they haven't yet, instead of kind of going

538
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 1: back to that same well that has been kind of

539
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Speaker 1: the MCU style of making movies with the comedy and

540
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Speaker 1: the fun, lightheartedness.

541
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Speaker 2: The well has run dry.

542
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they need to go back and talk to some nerds,

543
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: which is what I would encourage them to do now. Yes,

544
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 1: create like a focus group of some hardcore comic book

545
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: nerds and ask them what are your favorite stories and

546
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 1: what do you think we should be making, because I

547
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Speaker 1: think that is essentially what you have to do is

548
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: go back to the people who know the source materials

549
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: so well and the fans that are so passionate, the

550
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Speaker 1: fans that were there with you in the very beginning,

551
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 1: in the early stages, rooting you on, talk to them

552
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 1: and find out what they want to do and what

553
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Speaker 1: they want to see on the big screen.

554
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Speaker 2: It's actually a really good idea. Just hold like a

555
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Speaker 2: focus group like Comicon. Yeah, I mean you already got

556
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 2: all the nerds in one room when you host Comicon.

557
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Speaker 1: That's all you have to do. Talk to some nerds

558
00:23:59,040 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 1: because when.

559
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 2: As to self proclaimed nerds, we're not hating on the nerds.

560
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: We are nerds because whenever movies get announced, you see

561
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: the nerds comment first, you know, referencing the comics. I

562
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: feel like that's where your answer lies, finding those stories

563
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 1: and then also finding directors.

564
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 2: Who answer lies on the Facebook comments.

565
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Speaker 1: Look, it kind of does like as dark and dismal

566
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: as that may seem. Of like listening to the people

567
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 1: who are just shouting on their keyboards, sometimes there is

568
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: something there that you could talk to them about. But overall,

569
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Speaker 1: I don't think the article pointed out anything that I

570
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,479
Speaker 1: hadn't really seen. It was just seeing it all kind

571
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 1: of laid out and all the pieces kind of fitting

572
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: together that they are on a bit of a decline,

573
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: which I don't think they are by any means going

574
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: to be terrible and completely out for the next five years.

575
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: I feel like it's really crazy that you make a

576
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: few bad projects and everybody kind of jump ship. I'm

577
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: not quite ready to jump ship yet. There are some

578
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: things I'm excited about coming from Marvel, but I do

579
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: think they need to step it up a bit, especially

580
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 1: with James Gunn taking over DC. Forgetting he went from Marvel, Yeah,

581
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 1: which people overlooked that he just crushed it this year

582
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,719
Speaker 1: with Guardians at the Galaxy three that was such a

583
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 1: big hit. That was kind of quietly like everybody didn't

584
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: really contribute that to the MCU, but that was a

585
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 1: really big moment for them this year. How much do

586
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 1: we think that paycheck is to go from one to

587
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: the other? Oh tons of money? Nice, But with him

588
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 1: going over there and taking over making a new Superman

589
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: movie and generating some interest over there, if he can

590
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 1: do even a fraction of what he did with Guardians

591
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: with Marvel, imagine what he can do with DC. But again,

592
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 1: I can also see the same issues they have of

593
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: him being involved in so many projects and directing things,

594
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 1: and whenever people get spread so thin, the quality just diminishes.

595
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: So I think they just need to bring in some

596
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 1: more people and not base everything on one person, or

597
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 1: they need.

598
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 2: To just like truly take a hiatus, create some like

599
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Speaker 2: I don't know, Absence makes the heart grow fonder. I mean,

600
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 2: people miss a good Marvel movie and then come back

601
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 2: with something so strong. Stop putting out one two.

602
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: That is a great point and one I think would

603
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: solve everything except for their pockets. Well yeah, because yes,

604
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: going away and really spending some time to you know,

605
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 1: give viewers a chance to miss them.

606
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 2: Give writers a chance to have a break.

607
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: Give the VFX artists a chance to have a break,

608
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: who have been just work crazily to get all these

609
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 1: projects out on time, and the quality is suffered. Give

610
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: everybody a break, recharge, and come back with some really

611
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: great content instead of, like you said, just cranking things

612
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: out over and over again. But again, it's a giant

613
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: business now they can't do that.

614
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 2: And it, yeah, it sucks when things like that become

615
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 2: such a moneymaker because it's like it's just another cog

616
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 2: in the wheel now of their machine.

617
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: But we stand by that reviving the original Avengers right

618
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: now would be a terrible idea, right these don't I

619
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 1: think you need at least ten years. Twenty twenty nine

620
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 1: would be the earliest you could do that, even if

621
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Speaker 1: it's some I know they're in the multiverse saga right now,

622
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: and anything kind of goes which I'm also kind of

623
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 1: tired of the Multiverse right now. To be honest, I

624
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: loved it in the beginning.

625
00:26:58,880 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 2: It's very confused.

626
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: I think time stories are kind of starting to wear

627
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: on me a little bit of different timelines. They were

628
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: so interesting and fascinating early on, but everybody's trying to

629
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: do it now. I think after the Flash, I kind

630
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: of told myself, I'm a little bit done with the multiverse.

631
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: Just give me some great, straight ahead stories, some characters

632
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: to root for, some hype moments. That's all we really want.

633
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 2: Give me like one, just like one time, present, day, past, future,

634
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 2: just one pick one.

635
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: I also don't want movies to connect anymore. I don't

636
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: care about that.

637
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I think, I think you also alienate because

638
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 2: then people feel the need to have seen everything.

639
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 1: That is a great point. I feel you you've.

640
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: Set that quite a few times. I feel very smart.

641
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 1: This is why you're cos because it is daunting to

642
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: tell somebody, hey, there's a new Marvel movie coming out.

643
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: The first question is, well, do I have to watch

644
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: every single other of the thirty two movies they've made. No,

645
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: you just needn't watch the like. You just need to

646
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: get people to a point that they just want to

647
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: go watch one movie, be entertained.

648
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 2: Like I think Black Panther was one of the best

649
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 2: like standalone they've ever done. I have a friend who

650
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 2: hasn't ever seen any other Marvel movies. She's seen Black

651
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 2: Panther like three times. She was like, I loved it.

652
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 2: It's great.

653
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 1: Go back to that original model. Trilogies thinking trilogies Part one,

654
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: Origin story, Part two, the emotional unraveling, Part three, the conclusion,

655
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: the big epic ending of our hero.

656
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 2: That's it trilogies, which just reminds me not a topic

657
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 2: for today, But we haven't talked on here about them

658
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 2: turning Harry Potter into like a series on is it Max?

659
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh yeah, that's a story for another day.

660
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 2: I have a lot of thoughts about that.

661
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Speaker 1: But anyway, I could probably go on this.

662
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to talk about this way longer than

663
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 2: I got to talk about Elf.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. It was a long article and I had

665
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Speaker 1: a lot of things to say about it.

666
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:38,959
Speaker 2: It was a lot of passion.

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Speaker 1: Anything else you want to mention before we go?

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Speaker 2: Honorable mention for the month. A couple of good books

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Speaker 2: there we go, one called The Last life Boat. Of

670
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 2: course it is a World War Two I also had

671
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: a breakthrough on that. I remembered I used to read

672
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 2: historical fiction as a child, and it was like, that

673
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: makes a lot more sense. So yeah, the Last life Boat,

674
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Speaker 2: it's a good one.

675
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Speaker 1: I would have an honorable man, but I feel like

676
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: I went too long in the marvel. I did read

677
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: The Dark Knight Returns, which is now my favorite graphic

678
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: novel that I've ever read.

679
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 2: I love that you found a hobby only because when

680
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 2: my sevenths of four boxes come in the mail every week,

681
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: it's like, well, that's my hobby.

682
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: Because books are hard for me to finish, but graphic

683
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: novels I can sit down and read and there are pictures,

684
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Speaker 1: and there are pictures. So we'll come back, we'll do

685
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Speaker 1: the movie review, and we'll do the trailer park after this.

686
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Speaker 1: Let's get into it now. A spoiler free movie review

687
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Speaker 1: of Priscilla. You have Kaylee Spainey playing Priscilla in this movie.

688
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: Jacob Elordi plays Elvis. The movie is directed by Sophia Coppola,

689
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: who is a great director. She wrote the script for

690
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: this movie based on the book written by Priscilla Presley

691
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: who Priscilla is also an executive producer on this movie.

692
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: And I feel that is a very key role in

693
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: how I interpreted this movie and how I ended up

694
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: enjoying it so much, because to say that the dynamic

695
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: between Elvis and Priscilla's relationship is toxic is controversial is

696
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: kind of an understatement when you really look at the

697
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: facts that he was in his twenties already a superstar

698
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: whenever he met Priscilla while he was in the army

699
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: stationed in Germany. She was an army brat and she

700
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: was fourteen years old when they first met and started

701
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: spending time together. So the first twenty minutes of this movie,

702
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: it was really me getting adjusted to the idea of that.

703
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: And yes, this was back in the late fifties early sixties,

704
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: so maybe it was a little bit more common back then,

705
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: but still really weird. And I feel the way we

706
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: have Elvis placed in our heads as being this superstar

707
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: that is so beloved, I don't think this movie was

708
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: trying to diminish his reputation. It was really just telling

709
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: Priscilla's side of the story. It wasn't trying to paint

710
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: him in a bad life or even give him the

711
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: spotlight in this movie, because it is all from her

712
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: side of the relationship. But what this movie helped me

713
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,719
Speaker 1: understand is what it's like to be married to somebody

714
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Speaker 1: who is that big of a icon and that big

715
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,719
Speaker 1: of a presence, to be with somebody who is not

716
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: only famous, but gets everything that they want, has all

717
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: the money to do anything they could ever imagine. Going

718
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: back to the early stages of their relationship where she's

719
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: fourteen years old, Elvis is in the army and he

720
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: just lost his mother, and that's kind of where their

721
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: relationship really begins to grow because he was homesick, lost

722
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: his mother, and he needed somebody to confide in, and

723
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: that is what Priscilla became for him. She helped him

724
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,719
Speaker 1: get through that time. She was the only one who

725
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: really saw him in those dark, intimate moments and became

726
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: somebody that he really leaned on. And in the book

727
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: she says that their relationship was strictly that. So the

728
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: interesting part for me to see in this movie was

729
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,479
Speaker 1: seeing a side of Elvis that we haven't seen before.

730
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: We all saw the Boz Luhrmann movie last year, which

731
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: is very big and flashy, over the top, but that

732
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: movie focused so much on his music and his career

733
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: and really the relationship he had with Colonel Tom Parker,

734
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: his manager, and it was kind of their struggle, his

735
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: manager being the villain and Elvis being the hero of

736
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: that story. Here, it's a little bit different. Elvis isn't

737
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: really seen as a good guy. He's also not the

738
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: main focus of this movie. All the things that happened

739
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: to Priscilla throughout the film are as a result of him,

740
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: but it's all how his actions and his power influence her.

741
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: So it's a much different story that I really ended

742
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: up finding to be a more interesting story because it

743
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: was a side of him that we've never really seen before.

744
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: And it's really showing the dynamic of somebody married to

745
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: somebody so famous who ends up treating her the same

746
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: way that he treats everybody on his team. And it

747
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: was so interesting to see that dynamic that it's almost

748
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: that she wasn't a real life person to him. She

749
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: was as how Prisilla described him in her life to

750
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: be kind of his doll, that he would dress up,

751
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: tell her what to where, tell her how to speak,

752
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: tell her how everything he controlled which rock stars, famous people, actors, musicians,

753
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: they get so used to getting their way in every

754
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: aspect of their life that he took that and translated

755
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: into how he controls the person that he's supposed to

756
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: care about the most. There are moments where she is

757
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: the most important thing in this world that you see

758
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: throughout the film, but there are also moments where he

759
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: kind of forgets that. It shows Elvis's ability to lose

760
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: his temper in a second, his relationship with pills and

761
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: sleeping all day and partying and having all these people

762
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: around him all the time, and the toll that takes

763
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: on the partner in that relationship with Priscilla having to

764
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: stay at home when he goes on tour. We see

765
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: that side of him, of him being seen in tabloids

766
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: cheating on her and trying to tell her that it's

767
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: all made up. So there's a lot of manipulation. There's

768
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: a lot of gaslighting. There was a lot of grooming

769
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: early on, even though that that wasn't really known to

770
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: be a thing back in that time. That is exactly

771
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: what this movie shows. And again, I don't think it

772
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: was set out to villainize Elvis or tarnish his image.

773
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: I just think it was telling her side of the

774
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: story and based on her own words, based on everything

775
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: that she put in that book, and I think it's

776
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: very powerful. I found myself to be more moved by

777
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: Priscilla than I did Elvis last year, and I think

778
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: it's because it's an A twenty four film and it

779
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: just has a grittier feel to it, even down to

780
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: the actors' performances. I found myself being fully into Jacob

781
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: Ulordi as Elvis. Didn't fully look like him, but there's

782
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: the wardrobe. I didn't really see him and think, oh,

783
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: it's just a guy from Euphoria. I bought into the

784
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: fact that he was playing Elvis. I thought he had

785
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: the voice down pretty well. Maybe all the mannerisms and

786
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: show jomanship like of Elvis wasn't really showcasing this movie,

787
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: but I don't think it was supposed to. It was

788
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: really more geared towards the Elvis at home, and even

789
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: the way they reference him in this movie. They call

790
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: him E or EP, so it's kind of pulling the

791
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: curtain back a little bit more than we saw in

792
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: Elvis in seeing him just as human as he can be,

793
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: because he's not going to be a fully human character.

794
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: To have somebody that famous at that time, in no

795
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: way they're going to be human. So it was as

796
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: human as I think that we're going to see Elvis,

797
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: and showing his dark side even more so than we

798
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: saw in the film last year, because yes, that one

799
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: did showcase his addiction and the way he had to

800
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: fight through performances and once he got to Vegas and

801
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: all that, but this one showed more the effects of

802
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: him popping pills, the effects of sleeping all day, and

803
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: the effects of his temper. There are moments in this

804
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: movie where it gets very hostile between the two. You

805
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: see these fits of rage come out of him and

806
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: then quickly apologize, therefore adding to the dynamic of their

807
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: relationship that things were not good. The thing I wasn't

808
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: expecting to find in this movie was comic relief. The

809
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: movie was oddly comedic, not really on purpose, but there

810
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: were moments in the movie where they kind of made

811
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: Elvis out to be kind of a buffoon, to be

812
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: kind of a dummy, so there were moments in my

813
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: movie theater screening where people were laughing, and I feel

814
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: like that added a different level of tone to the

815
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: story of having these little moments where, oh, these are

816
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: normal people, even though they seem like larger than live figures.

817
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: So I thought that was a nice touch. I really

818
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: credit that to director Sophia Coppola, who I thought did

819
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: a fantastic job directing this movie and really getting some

820
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: amazing performances out of everybody. And also shout out to

821
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: the wardrobe department on this movie and the soundtrack and score.

822
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: They didn't use any Elvis songs. I think there are

823
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: a couple moments where they show some of his live performances,

824
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: but they really did a good job of keeping the

825
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: focus off of Elvis, which is probably hard to do

826
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: in a movie like this when and he is so

827
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: dynamic when he is on screen. It's having that ability

828
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 1: to shift it over to Priscilla to show the effects

829
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: that his stardom is having on her. And the score

830
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 1: also had like these really nice eighties inspired modern almost

831
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: rock hip hop type songs in between certain scenes. I

832
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: think specifically in the scene whenever her first big transformation

833
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: into how Elvis tried to get her to look exactly

834
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: like he wanted her to look. There were little moments

835
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: like that that really made it feel like an A

836
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: twenty four film because it took it out of the

837
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: time period and really modernized it. So I really like

838
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: that aspect of it too. Kind of reminded me of

839
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: what Boz Lherman always does and did with Elvis, of

840
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,959
Speaker 1: putting these really modern tracks in places where you don't

841
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 1: expect them. So overall, when all was said and done,

842
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: and I know I keep comparing it to Elvis, which

843
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: maybe isn't the most fair thing to do, but I

844
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: found myself enjoying this side of the story more because

845
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: I think when it comes to biopicks, I love the

846
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 1: grittier side. I love the side that showed all the biggest,

847
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: darkest moments, which I don't really think Elvis focused on

848
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 1: that so much. This was really just almost a slice

849
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: of life story because when you look at the story

850
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: on paper, it's not a traditional story format, doesn't really

851
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: follow an act one, two, and three. It's really just

852
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: telling their entire life story. So I feel like it

853
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: was directly taken from the book. So I think what

854
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: the movie served as was just a really deep dive

855
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: and a character study into these really gritty characters. So

856
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: I found that way more enjoyable in the big lavish

857
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: musical movie that we got last year, because it's really

858
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: just plays more to my taste. It plays more to

859
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: the dark side of the story, which there are a

860
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: lot of dark elements when you break it down. So

861
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: really the only issue I had was the subject matter

862
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: of getting over the creepiness of the relationship early on.

863
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,439
Speaker 1: But once I figured out that it really wasn't trying

864
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: to villainize anybody, and also reading what Priscilla had to

865
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 1: say about this movie being made and it really being

866
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: a representation of the story she wanted to tell, I

867
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,479
Speaker 1: find myself having more comfort and knowing that it wasn't

868
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: somebody making the movie of just trying to monetize off

869
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: of that. So that definitely bumped up my scoring. So

870
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: for Priscilla, I give it four point five out of

871
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: five Gracelands. It's time to head down to movie.

872
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 2: Mike Traylor Paul.

873
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: It's rare that I have an audible gasp while watching

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Speaker 1: a movie trailer, but seeing Ryan Gosling and all his glory,

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Speaker 1: like I can admit when a guy is really good looking,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like Ryan Gosling and I are not

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Speaker 1: even the same species. I feel like if I worked

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Speaker 1: out as hard as I wanted to, I could not

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Speaker 1: achieve even a tenth of the level of his physique.

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Speaker 1: But for that reason, he makes for a great actor

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00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: to throw on a screen and make me want to

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00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: watch every single second that he is on there. But

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Speaker 1: he is in a new movie with Emily Blunt, and

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Speaker 1: it's a movie that very much reminds me that Ryan

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Speaker 1: think Gosling is a very diverse actor. Not only does

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Speaker 1: he take on roles that I feel challenge him, but

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Speaker 1: he flourishes in them. And with every project he takes on,

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Speaker 1: he reminds me that he can really do it all.

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Speaker 1: He can do the comedy, he can do the action,

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Speaker 1: he can do the drama. He can sing, he can dance,

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Speaker 1: He can do all these things so well, and man,

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Speaker 1: it just makes you jealous that there's a person out

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Speaker 1: there that is so talented. But the new movie is

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Speaker 1: called The Fall Guy. He plays a stunt man who's

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Speaker 1: kind of washed up and now he's working on a

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Speaker 1: movie set with one of the biggest stars in Hollywood

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Speaker 1: and ironically, he is somebody who he stunt doubled for

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Speaker 1: a long time ago, and this guy's kind of replaced

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Speaker 1: him as far as being the star now, Emily Blunt's

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Speaker 1: character is the one directing the movie, and where it

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Speaker 1: all comes crumbling down is the big A List star

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Speaker 1: goes missing and Ryan Gosling has to find a way

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Speaker 1: to bring this guy back, and in turn, when the

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Speaker 1: heart of em only Blunt where it seems like they

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Speaker 1: have some kind of relationships, some kind of pass where

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Speaker 1: they dated, or he's been trying to get with her

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Speaker 1: for so long, so if he brings the guy back,

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Speaker 1: he wins her heart. So before I get into more

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Speaker 1: of what this movie is about, also the interesting person

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Speaker 1: who is directing this movie, which gives me some pretty

911
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: good perspective on what to expect. Here's just a little

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Speaker 1: bit of the Fall Guy trailer.

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Speaker 2: Tom Ryder, the biggest action stall on the planet is missing.

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Speaker 2: You need to bring him back.

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Speaker 1: On Jodie's movie is Dead. Why, I mean, you're a

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Speaker 1: stump mad Nobody's gonna notice you. That's your job, no offense.

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Speaker 2: I mean some taking you find Ryder, save Joji's film.

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Speaker 1: You get the love of your life, back. I'm not

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Speaker 1: the hero, I'm just the double do.

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 1: Not only is Ryan Gosling visually appealing in this trailer,

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Speaker 1: but all the stunts that they get to play around with,

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Speaker 1: I think are gonna be a lot of fun. Now,

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Speaker 1: usually when it comes to making a movie about making

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Speaker 1: a movie, the movie ever turns out to be good.

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Speaker 1: It's just kind of a lame line. You have to

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Speaker 1: walk to make it interesting and not to make it

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Speaker 1: too meta. I've never really seen a movie about a

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Speaker 1: movie really win me over, But I think is there

930
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Speaker 1: seems to be a pretty good story here underneath it.

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Speaker 1: And the movie is based on the TV show from

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Speaker 1: back in the eighties. I don't think it's really gonna

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Speaker 1: follow a major plot line from that, aside from the

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Speaker 1: fact that Ryan Gosling is playing the same type of

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Speaker 1: stunt performer. But I think there will be a lot

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Speaker 1: of things to play around with if you are doing

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Speaker 1: stunts for a movie. Inside of a movie, there are

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Speaker 1: scenes where Ryan Gosling's character is set on fire where

939
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Speaker 1: he's crashing cars, but then when you go into him

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Speaker 1: in the real world where he's trying to find this

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Speaker 1: alis star and bring him back, he is also doing

942
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Speaker 1: these same types of stunts, but at that point it's

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Speaker 1: not on the fictional movie set. It's just on a

944
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Speaker 1: real movie set that we are watching. So yes, it

945
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Speaker 1: does get a little bit meta to make a movie

946
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Speaker 1: about a movie, But just by watching this trailer, I

947
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Speaker 1: think they make a pretty clear distinction of what is

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Speaker 1: happening on set by the way that those shots look.

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Speaker 1: They look very glossed up and Hollywood like, and then

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Speaker 1: you pull it back a little bit and there's a

951
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Speaker 1: sense of realism. So you have Ryan Gosting looking great,

952
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Speaker 1: you have those stunts looking great. You also have a

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Speaker 1: lot of great wardrobe shots in this movie and the

954
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Speaker 1: different outfits he has been put in throughout his entire career.

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Speaker 1: He has some iconic looks. So that is something I

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Speaker 1: look forward to now when going to watch a movie.

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Speaker 1: And maybe it's because recently I've become more interested in

958
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Speaker 1: the way that I dress and interested in fashion in general,

959
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Speaker 1: which I always just saw it as like, oh, you

960
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Speaker 1: have to have a lot of money to know fashion

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Speaker 1: and to be able to wear nice clothes, But I

962
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Speaker 1: think it really comes down to finding your own unique style,

963
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: and really fashion is just being intentional and doing something

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Speaker 1: with purpose. So it doesn't really have to cost a

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Speaker 1: whole lot. Is something that I've learned so now when

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Speaker 1: I go watch movies, I often look for inspiration based

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Speaker 1: on movie characters and what they wear. And of course

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to get something that cost a crazy

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Speaker 1: amount that they spend in movies, but looking at what

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Speaker 1: they wear, it gives me, Okay, what can I find

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Speaker 1: that I can afford that creates a similar look making

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Speaker 1: my own and makes me feel confident like I was

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Speaker 1: on a big screen. I like doing that too, And

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Speaker 1: just by looking at this trailer and some of the

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Speaker 1: different outfit choices, which some are a little bit out

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Speaker 1: there and outlandish, but I always leave a Ryan Gosling

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Speaker 1: film inspired by what he wears and what they put

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Speaker 1: him in. So maybe this movie will give me some

979
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Speaker 1: choices to pick for him later down the line. And

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Speaker 1: then you put him with Emily Blunt. I think they

981
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Speaker 1: are really great pairing that I haven't seen together on

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Speaker 1: the big screen. She also rarely makes a bad movie.

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Speaker 1: Both of them together are two actors who rarely make

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Speaker 1: a bad movie. If ever, I just have them on

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Speaker 1: that level of top tier actors. And then you have

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Speaker 1: director David Leach who we've talked about recently when I

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Speaker 1: did my review on Bullet Train, which was a really solid,

988
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Speaker 1: fun and funny action movie that kind of went a

989
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Speaker 1: little bit under the radar when it came out late

990
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Speaker 1: last summer, but I feel like more people started watching

991
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Speaker 1: that and appreciating it after it came out on Netflix.

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Speaker 1: But David Leech knows action, and he also he knows comedy.

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Speaker 1: He's done movies like John Wick, Deadpool two, Bullet Train,

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Speaker 1: which I mentioned, so I think he's gonna pull from

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Speaker 1: all those inspirations to make this movie. But the other

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Speaker 1: cool thing that excites me is David Leech was a

997
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Speaker 1: stunt performer back in the day. The first time he

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Speaker 1: ever met Brad Pitt was working as his stunt double

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Speaker 1: on Fight Club. So knowing that he has this long

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Speaker 1: history of being a stunt performer and then directing a

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Speaker 1: movie about a stunt guy who's kind of past this prime,

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Speaker 1: I feel like the reason he made this movie was

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Speaker 1: also to tell his story. And when you get a

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Speaker 1: director who is passionate about what they are doing and

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Speaker 1: also pulling from personal inspiration, I think that's a home

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Speaker 1: run that it's gonna have a lot of heart with

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Speaker 1: somebody who has the arsenal and the tools of how

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Speaker 1: to make that movie come to life. So maybe it's

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Speaker 1: a little selfish of him to make a movie that

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Speaker 1: hits so close to home, but they always say, right,

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Speaker 1: work on what you know. So that is why I'm

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Speaker 1: really interested to see how this entire movie plays out.

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Speaker 1: The trailer just looks fantastic, and the movie is coming

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Speaker 1: out on March first, twenty twenty four, so that's why

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to see it next year. And yes, you're

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Speaker 1: probably thinking, why do you have such a crush on

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Speaker 1: Ryan Gosling? And to that, I say, well, who doesn't said?

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Speaker 2: That was this week's edition of Movie by.

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Speaker 1: Tramer Bar and that is gonna do it for another

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Speaker 1: episode here on the podcast. But before I go, I

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Speaker 1: got to give my listeners shout out of the week.

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Speaker 1: We had an interview last week with Frederick Yahnay talking

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Speaker 1: about his work on Killers of the Flower move and

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Speaker 1: the process behind getting music made for a movie. I

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Speaker 1: asked you to comment with the music note and this

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Speaker 1: week's listener shout out who left that secret emoji is

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Speaker 1: Ashley Kennedy. She wrote, enjoyed this interview and can't wait

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Speaker 1: to watch the movie. So thank you Ashley, thank you

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Speaker 1: all for listening, and until next time, go out and

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Speaker 1: watch good movies and I will talk to you later