1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Because I love to pour out of my cup, I 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: know it needs to be a full cup, and so 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: I have to always make sure I'm good so that 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: I can give. 5 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: Hey everyone, Emily ABOUDI here bringing you a special week 6 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: of content here on Hurdle. This week, I am chatting 7 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: all about motherhood. And although I'm not a mom just yet, 8 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 2: my talks with Hurdlers over the years have taught me 9 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: so much about this life chapter. 10 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:42,959 Speaker 3: I've learned that motherhood itself is. 11 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 2: Both beautiful and challenging, exhausting and rewarding. And whether or 12 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 2: not children are in the cards for you, it's safe 13 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: to say that we've all been dramatically impacted by a mother, 14 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: whether it be our own or another in our lives. 15 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: So leading up to Mother's Day this weekend, I'm chatting 16 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: with six extraordinary women, some moms, some nod but each 17 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: with their own story to tell forever shaped by the 18 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: women that came before them. To kick things off, I 19 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: am bringing you my conversation with Rachel Nix. She's the 20 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: founder of a nonprofit called Birth Queen, founding mirror trainer, actor, 21 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 2: Lulemon ambassador, and a mother too. A lot of takeaways 22 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 2: here with Rachel, My biggest are that joy is just 23 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: so important and we have the conscious choice to choose 24 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: joy each and every day, and for Rachel, doing so 25 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 2: empowers her to be a better mother, to soak in 26 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: more moments and be more present with her boys, and 27 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: empowers her to show up at home and at work, 28 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: although for so many this year those two things have 29 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: been one and the same. Rachel also highlights the struggles 30 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: that she faces as a black mother, sharing some alarming 31 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: statistics that encouraged her to become both a dula and 32 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: lactation consultant as well as found birth. Queen Birth Been 33 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: aims to educate, support and empower Black women and parents, 34 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 2: enriching the black birth experience, and save lives through funding 35 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: trainings for doulas, midwives, and Lactasian consulance. 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I am battling allergies, but I got to 77 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: work out in and I'm feeling better. I'm still like 78 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: sounding nasally, but I feel like when you sound the worst, 79 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: you are starting to feel better, which I'm here. 80 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 3: For Here for that too. I'm here for that too. 81 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: And I saw in your story last night on Instagram 82 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 2: trying to sleep with two kids at home is an 83 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:43,799 Speaker 2: extreme sport. 84 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: What time was that? 85 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 3: That was that? 86 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 1: Actually I think it was already almost five am, but 87 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. Time is interesting also when you're a parent. 88 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: But I'm breastfeeding right now and so I'm not really 89 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: I'm not a sleep training mom. I just don't have 90 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: the heart for it. And my oldest. He's a scorpio. 91 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: So if anybody knows anything about scorpios, they like physical touch. 92 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: And so that's Samuel. And he is the best big 93 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: brother ever. So he knows his baby brother's in bed 94 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: with us, and it's really not about him trying to 95 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: get in bed with us. He wants to cuddle his 96 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: little brother. It's the cutest thing on the planet. Baldwin's cool, 97 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: like he doesn't need to be held, but he needs 98 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: like the booby, like in a certain distance from his 99 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: face or his face in my armpit. And so if 100 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: I literally turn my back to him, he's like and asleep. 101 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, can I just can I give a second? Nah? Okay? Cool? 102 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: And then they are like both trying to scoop closer 103 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: to one another and closer to me, and I'm literally like, 104 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: we have like a platform on our bed, so I 105 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: usually have like a hand or a knee holding myself 106 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: in the king bed. It's it's hilarious and I just laugh. 107 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: And then of course, like I'll have a mom where 108 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna put Baldwin in his crib and 109 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: then here comes Samuel from his room and then he Wakes. 110 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny, the. 111 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: Whole thing, the whole thing. 112 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 2: I love both of their names, but I really love 113 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 2: the name Baldwin. 114 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. 115 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 3: What's the what's the root for that? 116 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: James Baldwin? I mean, I had Baldwin September twenty eighth, 117 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, and the thick of that year, I'm like, 118 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: what is the adjective to describe, you know, and to 119 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: keep it light, but keep it real. Like I my 120 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: whole third trimester, I was having anxiety attacks with just 121 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: everything that was going on in our country and the world, honestly, 122 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: and knowing that I was bringing another black man into 123 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: this world was very beautiful and very scary, and we 124 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: were We knew Samuel otis Lyons the fourth. His older 125 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: brother has a very strong name, so we always knew 126 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: we had to lie come with the name that could 127 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: like level, you know, meet that same strength of his 128 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: brother's name. And so my husband knew he wanted his 129 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: middle name to be my maiden name, which is Nicks. 130 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: His name was Baldwin, Nicks, Lyons and Porter was on 131 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: the table and it was first in line. But I 132 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: knew my mommy gut was like it's not his name. Uh. 133 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: And I was sitting very pregnant on the couch one 134 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: day and I was like, it's Baldwin. And I just 135 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: love everything that James Baldwin represents, from his courage, to 136 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: his artistry, to his you know, sexuality, and his openness 137 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: and confidence with that during that time. I'm also an artist, 138 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: so I just I was here for it and it 139 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: fit and it's strong, but not like hard hitting, so yeah, 140 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: and it fits him. So my little Baldwin and my 141 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: little Samuel. 142 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: You just mentioned having Baldwin during COVID and obviously an 143 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 2: unbelievable time or maybe I guess depending on where you're 144 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: going from for our country. 145 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: Uh. 146 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: I would be interested if you have anything to highlight 147 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 2: about your experience, more so being pregnant during COVID, because 148 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 2: I think a lot of women and moms who had 149 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: their baby in some like a complete pregnancy during that 150 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 2: time last year. 151 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 3: It was just kind of unlike anything before. 152 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I was blessed that it was my 153 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: second child, and I don't know if it was my 154 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: faith or just the fact that I had to be 155 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: his mama, you know, and I needed to hold it 156 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: down for Samuel. And this unborn baby. That COVID did 157 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: not shake me from my center. So when I was 158 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: struck off balance, it wasn't because of COVID, because I 159 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: was like, I know what the facts are. I will 160 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: do my part to protect my child and my born 161 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: child and myself and my immediate family, and that's just 162 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: what I can do. And so that didn't produce anxiety 163 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: for me. I knew, because I have very arduous labors, 164 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: that I would not be wearing a mask while laboring. 165 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: So I was like, everybody else can mask up, but 166 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: I will not be with a mask, And so the 167 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: vaccine would just hit hospital and essential workers as I 168 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: gave birth. Yeah, So I think my faith got me 169 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: through that and I was okay. I steered away from 170 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: like constantly watching the news every morning. Yeah, you know, 171 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: but it is what it is like. You can't control it. 172 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: And I part of motherhood and I tell people all 173 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: the time, when you let go of control period in life, 174 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: it's more enjoyable. And if you're constantly trying to control 175 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: uncontrollable variables, life is a lot more stressful. So I 176 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: just kind of was like, yeah, you gotta just do 177 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: what you can and keep it pushing. 178 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 3: I also feel like I mean mother or not. 179 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 2: A lot of people took that approach to a lot 180 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: of the last year, at least as time went on, 181 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: it was like, I cannot sit in this home for 182 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: the upteenth day and have all this anxiety about something 183 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 2: that I couldn't control. And there were things that I 184 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: changed in my routine that made a huge difference, similar 185 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 2: to you not watching the news in the morning, and 186 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: I do not have any little ones running around, but 187 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 2: I stopped setting an alarm in the morning just because 188 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: there were small things that I knew that would help 189 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 2: me give back to my mental health. 190 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 3: And just like the status quo, at. 191 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: Least to start things off, getting outside was huge for me. 192 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 1: So I made a point even if I felt tired 193 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: or whatever. But immediately when I because we went out 194 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: to California May fourteenth, and Governor Newsom shut everything down 195 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: the next day, like we left New York, we got 196 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: to Oakland and literally CALLI shit down, and I ended 197 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: up staying, making the decision to stay in Cali and 198 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: have Baldwin there, and we didn't come back to New 199 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: York until January twenty eighth, So I was literally I 200 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: learned a lot for many reasons, but for our particular situation. 201 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: I left with two weeks worth of suit luggage and 202 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: I came back with a whole human you know what 203 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: I mean. So I realized there's very little that you 204 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: need outside of your peace of mind and your happiness 205 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: and your health. And I think people now are realizing 206 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: your mental health is a part of your health. And 207 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people had to look in the mirror 208 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: and deal with things that a busy lifestyle could help 209 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: you kind of ignore. And so for me, I know, 210 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: I'm like a fitness instructor, and I think the first 211 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: focus for people is esthetics, and the physical for me 212 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: is number three. Like it's it is absolutely your mental 213 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: and that's how I got into this career path. It's 214 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: your wealth being inside. And then I think people forget 215 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: to ask themselves how they're feeling. Like the movement you 216 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 1: choose should make you feel good. It shouldn't be I'm 217 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: gonna do eighty burpies until I can't walk and I 218 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: don't feel good. Hard to the point of incapacitating yourself 219 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: is not effective or healthy. And then yeah, when you 220 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: look at the mirror and you like what you see, 221 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 1: that keeps you coming back to the movement. But that 222 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: shouldn't be your first goal in my opinion, because to me, 223 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: that's where all the negative self talk comes. When you 224 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: don't hit those random numbers or sizes or comparisons to 225 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: other people and all that kind of stuff. When you 226 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: feel good, you feel good, you know, and that that's 227 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:49,359 Speaker 1: all that matters. 228 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 2: That's all that matters. Well, you mentioned the buzzword mirror. 229 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: You also obviously start to talk about fitness when you 230 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 2: identify yourself or you introduce yourself to someone. What are 231 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 2: usually like the first things that you say about yourself? 232 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: I know, because I do just about eight things I say, 233 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: you know, I usually say where I'm from, So I 234 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: say Hi, I'm Rachel Nix. I am from Oakland, California. 235 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: I reside in Harlem in New York City. I am 236 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: an actor, I am a trainer at MIR. I am 237 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: a doula, a lactation counselor, a mother of two. And 238 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: that's usually my list. But now I'm a founder of 239 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: a nonprofit. So that's kind of like kind of fun 240 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: to put first, like, but it's a beautiful thing and 241 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: I really feel like I'm walking in my purpose in something, 242 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: I birthed my baby girl. So I have two amazing 243 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: little boys, and now I've given birth to a baby 244 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: girl and her name is birth Queen. And something about 245 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: me is I'm a doer and I am always going 246 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: to tell you I'm fine even when I'm not, because 247 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: I know I will be. That's just the choice. That's 248 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: how I live my life. And so this year was 249 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: not fine. Being petrified to possibly lose my black sons 250 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: for the rest of my life is not fun. I 251 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,479 Speaker 1: had a vision in September to collect black birth stories 252 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: to just the artist in me was like, maybe if 253 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: people just see us right, they'll see us and our 254 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: humanity and our oneness and similarity and value that. And 255 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: that morphed into out of my anxiety attacks this summer 256 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: from being pregnant to me deciding that I want to 257 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,359 Speaker 1: tackle the black maternal health crisis. So if people are 258 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: not aware, Black women diet three to five times the 259 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: rate during childbirth and twelve times the rate in New 260 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: York City compared to their white counterparts. Our babies are 261 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: twice as likely to not make their first birthday. Our 262 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: breastfeeding rates are lower, our miscarriage rates are higher. You know, 263 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: and it's all connected to racism. We know that is 264 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: why we are not broken. The system is broken, and 265 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: so it can sound very hope less and an insurmountable 266 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: crisis that it'll just kind of make you throw your 267 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: hands up, and instead of doing that, I'm like, let 268 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: me get my hands dirty and fix it. So I 269 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: am a do lie. I am a lactation counselor, a trainer, 270 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: a mother, and also an actor. Right, So I have 271 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: this interesting multidisciplinary skill set and I just feel like, fine, 272 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: let me call upon everybody I know to pool resources 273 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: and raise money to disseminate it to pre existing organizations 274 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: doing the work to provide black mothers with education and support, 275 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: and to also give money and provide opportunities for more 276 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: black birth workers to be educated, trained and implemented into 277 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: the field, because we know when you put those two together, 278 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: lives will not only be saved, but they'll be able 279 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: to thrive as opposed to I'm going to fix racism 280 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: or the system. Right. That's going to say a little 281 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: bit longer, I. 282 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 2: Guess, but it's still so impressive to hear you say 283 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 2: the words. Well, like I decided that I was going 284 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 2: to do something about the black maternal health crisis. 285 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 3: Like that sounds a little bit that's you know, I mean, 286 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 3: not that, not that. 287 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 2: That is like a small hurdle to jump over, and 288 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: that's so admirable and a testament to your passion, to 289 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 2: your tenacity, and to how much it means to you 290 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 2: as a black mother. 291 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I mean, at this point, I think people 292 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: need to hear this and maybe it will help them. 293 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: These two things. One every black woman I know is 294 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: questioning motherhood because they're afraid they're gonna die. Then we 295 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: have our babies, say say mom and baby survive, then 296 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: we're afraid you're going to kill them. The cops are 297 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: going to kill them for the rest of our lives. 298 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: So there's this constant state of trauma that we exist 299 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: in and we have to get used to it as 300 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: black people to vibe. But I'm very interested in not 301 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: a lack mindset or a survival mindset for black people anymore, 302 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: but that of joy and abundance. We are our ancestors 303 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: are from Africa, the most abundant continent. Kings, queens, you know, jewels, 304 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: every amazing resource you could think of, that's what we 305 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: come from. And so reconnecting to that in the midst 306 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: of all of this pain and racism and all of 307 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: those things. But what you can do is choose joy. 308 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: And so if somebody asked me, like, how do you 309 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: do all that you do? I make a choice to 310 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: choose joy. That's it. It's not always easy, it's not 311 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: it's a choice. It's like you don't always want to 312 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: go to school, you don't always want to go to work, 313 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: don't always want to pay your bills. But it's some 314 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: things you just have to do. So your mindset, right, 315 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: is the same thing. You might not always want to 316 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,120 Speaker 1: do it, just do it. I just kind of like 317 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,479 Speaker 1: the row the spaghetti and see what sticks and then 318 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: the stuff that falls. I'm like, I guess it wasn't 319 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:04,719 Speaker 1: meant to be. 320 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 3: I love that for you. 321 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna work on picking up the spaghetti mentality. 322 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 2: So then, naturally, for me, my next question to you is, 323 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 2: aside from your boys, what brings you joy? 324 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: I love to travel, I love wine, I love life, 325 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: So what does that look like for me? Connecting to people? 326 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: So the actor in me loves humans and their stories. 327 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: So this was hard for me to be disconnected from people. 328 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: I love to cook and have people over and host 329 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: I've traveled quite a bit around the world and been 330 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: very blessed to do that. It's I think it's like 331 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: the real the intangibles of life and the real simple things. 332 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: Stuff is not my happy I mean, you know, do 333 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: I like nice things? Sure? But self care is an experience. 334 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 1: So what does that look like for me? Like I 335 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: committed to making sure I have a trainer so that 336 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: I can be Rachel and have adult conversation and take 337 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: care of Rachel. So because I love to pour out 338 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: of my cup, I know it needs to be a 339 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: full cup, and so I have to always make sure 340 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: I'm good so that I can give and give endlessly 341 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: and giving and helping people truly. Like one day my 342 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: dad might make my dad sound like an asshole, but 343 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: one day I was crossing the street in New York City. 344 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, I probably was like, and now I'm 345 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: gonna be a doula and then I'm gonna do this, 346 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: and then I'm you know, and he's like, why do 347 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: you like to help people so much? And that kind 348 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: of sums me up. I just really love to help 349 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: people and it makes me, It makes me really happy 350 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: to help people and love on people. So I think 351 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: if I had to give you one thing, that was 352 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: like eighty five. 353 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:58,479 Speaker 2: But there's well, I mean the reason before why I 354 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 2: asked you the question like how do you introduce yourself? 355 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 3: Like where where are you coming from? 356 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 2: When you get asked that question is because I think 357 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 2: from the mom pov. 358 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 3: Some others are like, I'm a mother. 359 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 2: Other mothers like may leave that out at the front, 360 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 2: and I think that that's something as someone who is 361 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 2: not yet a mother, I'm so interested in that because 362 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 2: I don't think necessarily and again I'm not a mom yet, 363 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 2: but I don't. 364 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 3: Necessarily think one is right or wrong. 365 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 2: But I do think it's really interesting to see, you know, 366 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 2: where women are coming from with their sense of identity, 367 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 2: because I think it's so important to as you just said, 368 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: take care of Rachel, like start with Rachel so that 369 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 2: you can then. 370 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 3: Be a mom. 371 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and hence the title birth queen of my nonprofit 372 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: Women are Magic. Right when you become a mother, that 373 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: you are sitting at the helm, you're a queen. Very 374 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: rarely do we feel that way, but it is imperative 375 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 1: that we take care of ourselves, just as a queen 376 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: delegate whatever you need to do but self care. And 377 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: it can be your nails, it can be your eyebrows, 378 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: your hair, but it also needs to be a pelvic 379 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: floor therapist or acupuncture or mental therapy, whatever you need 380 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: to be good as you, because you were you before 381 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: you were mom, wife, partner, employee, brother, sister. Who are you? 382 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: And I think many of us, mother or not struggle 383 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: with even figuring that out. And I think we've been 384 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: sold in our society that it's an arrival, like you 385 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: just kind of arrive at who you are and then 386 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: it stops. And I'm a lover of learning. I love 387 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: to stretch and grow and keep climbing, you know, to me, 388 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: if you stop, you die, like figuratively, And it's just 389 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: like keep pushing. My godfather's eighty and he's still you know, 390 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: like maybe I'll take a day off work. Is he retired, Yes, 391 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: But there's all he craves and thrives off of life 392 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: and change and giving and creating. And I see myself 393 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 1: absolutely in him. And I think we put limitations on 394 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: ourselves and we go into overdrive, typically as mom, so 395 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: it's always about everybody else, and that quickly is not 396 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: a fun place to be and it's okay to step 397 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: away from that and you need to. And it's not 398 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: about working or non working mom. And I want to 399 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: make that clear because many non working moms feel that 400 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: they don't deserve to step out of the home and 401 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: have self care because they may not contribute financially. And 402 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: that is crazy, Like being a non twenty four to 403 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: seven mom is that is no joke. That's amazing work 404 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 1: that I am not here to do. I had to 405 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: do during quarantine and I was like, yo, I need 406 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: to go to work. This is right. I mean to 407 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: be pregnant with a toddler and still working remotely during quarantine. 408 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: I was like no, and I couldn't have a wine. 409 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: It was rude. It was really rude. It was so rude. 410 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 2: Rude. You mentioned for you one of the simple joys 411 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 2: having your own trainer. 412 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 3: For many you are their trainer. 413 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 2: Talk to me before I get into some mom eccentric 414 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 2: questions about your journey to getting into fitness, because I 415 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: know that you went to Juilliard, studied acting and have 416 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 2: had just so many different beautiful chapters of your story. 417 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 2: So talk to me about Rachel, who works at the Mirror. 418 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: Fitness has been a part of my life since forever. Right, 419 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say I'm a fast moving personality. 420 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 1: But I began gymnastics at the age of two. I 421 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 1: played soccer for eight years, basketball for five, volleyball for three. 422 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: So movement and sports was my foundation. And then, you know, 423 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: leadership acting started to creep in in like middle school, 424 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: in high school, and then I had to make a 425 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 1: decision and Juilliard happened, and I was like, uh, nobody 426 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: was expecting that, so cause I was pretty you know, 427 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: I'm a nerd, so I was thinking, like, you know, Columbia, Stanford, UCLA, 428 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 1: and YU. And then when Juilliard called, I was like, uh, okay, 429 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: I didn't think that was possible, but here we go, 430 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: and so I dove head first. And then you know, 431 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: you're like, okay, what next. You don't want me waiting 432 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: your table. So I started taking a lot of yoga 433 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: after college. I ended up being in a very unhealthy 434 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: relationship and I realized it was sustaining me after I 435 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: did my training, so I was really curious about it. 436 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: I did the training just to learn more about the philosophy. 437 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: That's you know, the nerd in me was like, what 438 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: is this thing? I want to learn more? And when 439 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: I started teaching, I was like, whoa, It just like 440 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: blew my mind. I was like, I get the same 441 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: joy from teaching in a classroom that I do from 442 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: being on stage or whatever. And so I loved it 443 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: and then I just went on from there. It gave 444 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: me the strength to leave an unhealthy relationship and then 445 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: I just certified in all the things. I was in LA, 446 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: between Dallas and LA at the time, I decided to 447 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,719 Speaker 1: move back to New York because I was my happy 448 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: place and a whole career was born. I was able 449 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: to gain my independence, my confidence, my physical strength, my 450 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: mental and emotional strength from it. So it's also has 451 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 1: a big a lot to do with my approach to 452 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 1: fitness right and the mental peace and the confidence and 453 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: self love peace. And so mirror happened when I was 454 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: very pregnant with Samuel. That morning I cried to my husband, like, 455 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: how the hell are we going to have a baby 456 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: in New York City? And that night at nine o'clock, 457 00:25:58,480 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: it was six thirty in the morning when I cried 458 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: it at nine pm, I got an email from her 459 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: and the rest is history. I had my son a 460 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: month after that, but I signed within like a week 461 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: or two. I actually had Samuel on the same day 462 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: as my founder's son. They're a year apart, so I 463 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: figured that was a good omen. After thirty three hours 464 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: of labor, I was like, oh, you and George just 465 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: wanted the same birthday. Got it. Mommy made the right choice. 466 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: And that has just been a dream, you know, during 467 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: my fintess career, I became a doula years before becoming 468 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: a mom. I've been adula like eight years, and then 469 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: I got my lactation training right before I had Samuel. 470 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: And I'm just able to help women around the country, 471 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: little bit of around the world. It'll be more so 472 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: as we expand, and I have a niche on there 473 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: of pre and post natal fitness that I'm very proud of. 474 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: And I'm really helping women and creating community and support 475 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: and confidence and empowerment. And yes, my nonprofit is tackling 476 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: a maternal health crisis for black women, but I know 477 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: that every day my work empowers every woman and I'm 478 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: really really very proud of that. 479 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 2: As you have continued on your journey and motherhood two sons, now, 480 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 2: I'm sure you have accumulated many tidbits of advice if 481 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 2: you had to think about and I know, like, please, 482 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 2: so many tidbits that picking one is probably absolutely impossible. 483 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 2: But if you had to reflect on something that you 484 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 2: continually go back to a piece of advice that someone 485 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 2: offered you, what is that piece of advice? 486 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: Okay, so that is one thing. My mother always said, 487 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: it's your body and your baby, so only you know 488 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: what's best for your body and your baby. I live 489 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 1: and die by that. So your pregnancy, your birth, and 490 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: your mother ing, trust your instincts. Don't let anybody take 491 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: your power. So that's one ode to mommy. The other is, 492 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 1: if I had to hashtag it, it's beautiful chaos and 493 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: it's coming full circle too. And it gives me chills 494 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: as I say that, when you fit those moments when 495 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, the house is a fucking 496 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: mess and this is not done at all, and you 497 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: get there like I choose joy and I have my wine, y'all, 498 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: but I'm still like, my house is a fucking mess 499 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 1: and this shit is driving me crazy. My husband's on 500 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: my nerves. Every ragget on my nerves. Okay, there's nerf 501 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: guns everywhere and darts everywhere and baby toys that barked 502 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,719 Speaker 1: over my apartment, like it's just like all the things, 503 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: and especially during this year, right because you get no 504 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: break and then it's like, oh, time for another meal 505 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: and more dishes. So those moments you know that the 506 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: toddler spills something and set everybody's screaming, you just have 507 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: to stop and watch and say it's okay. As silly 508 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: as it might sound, go back to what I said, 509 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: choose joy, especially in those moments where it's a hot mess, Like, truly, 510 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: if everyone is alive, you will get through the insane moment. 511 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:16,719 Speaker 1: Morning's gonna come, the tantrum's gonna end, You'll clean up 512 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: the mess. Eventually, it's okay. And whose standards are you 513 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: living by? They're yours. You're putting that stress on yourself. 514 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: Nobody's outside your house stress, you know, judging you, and 515 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: if they are, they're whack. You know it's okay. Everything 516 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: doesn't have to look perfect for your friends, or for 517 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: the gram or for none of that. And I make 518 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: conscious decisions not to show perfection because that's shit. It's 519 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: not real. And I'm cursing because I need people to 520 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: understand we have to stop putting these crazy expectations on ourselves, 521 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: especially as women. There's only so much time in a day. 522 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: So enjoy your babies. Enjoy them because you blink and 523 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: like they're big, and like they don't care about a 524 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: clean living room or sink empty. Like they don't care. 525 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: You know, they think it's fun that they poured all 526 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: their water out and now it's spilling through the table 527 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: and down the chair like it's a science experiment. You're like, great, 528 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, just enjoy the crazy, the beautiful chaos. 529 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 2: Has mothering changed your perspective on a lot or do 530 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 2: you feel that some of you know the lessons that 531 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 2: you're sharing with us today, which many of them I've 532 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 2: even reiterated, like, are so relevant across the board. Do 533 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 2: you feel like you had this approach to life before 534 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 2: or has being a mom really shifted your perspective? 535 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: No, it's just made me, uh dig deeper. Is that 536 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: the proper probably way to describe it. I had my 537 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: values in my morals. I think when you're younger, you're like, 538 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: I was clear who I was, But then you know, 539 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: not everybody likes that, so you kind of second guess 540 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,959 Speaker 1: yourself here and there along the way and now I just, 541 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: I just I have full confidence in everything I do 542 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: for my boys. I'll apologize if I lose my temper 543 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: or I messed something up, or I have a relationship 544 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: with him. And I also made the decision to tell 545 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: him the truth. I remember I was disappointed about and 546 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: not being able to audition for something one day and 547 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: it hit me and I started crying, and he was 548 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: like he was almost two, I think, and he whipped 549 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: his head around in the stroller and we were in 550 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: the hallway, and I like, I immediately shut down, like 551 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: and decided to lie to him. But I questioned that, 552 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: and I was like, why would I lie to my child, 553 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: Like I'm not okay, I'm sad, and that's okay. And 554 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: so I've created I think absolutely God made Samuel who 555 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: he is, but I have some pardon that and he 556 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: is the most empathetic little three year old I've ever 557 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: met in my life. And I'm really really proud of that, 558 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: and that's going to take him far. And I prayed 559 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: when I was pregnant for a healthy, happy, and kind 560 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: human being because with all the you know, I got 561 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: pregnant during the election, the first you know, the last one, 562 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: and then I was pregnant again during this one, and 563 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: I just wanted a nice person. All this venom has 564 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: come out and anger and hatred and I don't understand hate, 565 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: and I want children that are loving, accepting and empathetic 566 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: human beings, and I absolutely have that with Samuel. And 567 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: Baldwin is just like the happiest little almost seven month 568 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: old tomorrow that you know you've probably ever met, with 569 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: his little thick thighs. So he's amazing. But yeah, I don't, 570 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: I haven't, I've I am still who I am. I 571 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: have allowed myself to question ways in which maybe I 572 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: was parented, or people in general parent because it's like, wait, 573 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: why why do we do that? I think it's more 574 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: of that, like why would I lie to my son 575 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: and say I'm happy if I'm sad, because it actually 576 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: his you know, science proves it messes with, you know, 577 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: their intuition. If they're feeling that there that their mom 578 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: is sad and their mom's like, no, I'm not sad, 579 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: then they're like, oh, okay, what something's off and that 580 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: affects them too, not for good. I'm very blessed not 581 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: to deal with guilt, not to deal with anxiety or 582 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: questioning myself. I think it's just because I just am 583 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: doing my best and that that's all I can do. 584 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: And it's not about being perfect. And I think if 585 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,959 Speaker 1: we reach for perfection, that's a very it's just not 586 00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: it's not a fun existence because it doesn't exist. So 587 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: if you reach for growth, if you reach for challenge, 588 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: if you reach for honesty and joy, then that you 589 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: can deal with. But this idea of perfection, then you're 590 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: always going to feel disappointed or wrong or whatever. 591 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 2: And one day your definition of perfection is going to 592 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 2: be different than the next day. Right, So right constantly 593 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 2: chasing this thing that is not clearly defined, then what 594 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 2: an exhausting life that is when you can find happiness 595 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 2: and contentment with the beautiful things that are already in 596 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 2: existence in what you have going on. 597 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: Correct, And another little thing I've said along the years 598 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: is like always leaving space on your plate to receive 599 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 1: blessings and to see and hear what universe or spirit 600 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: is giving or bringing to you. Which also when you 601 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: deal in mothering motherhood, being able to be present, it's 602 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: very difficult because there's always something you need to do 603 00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: or isn't getting done, and so just like sitting and 604 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: doing the puzzle or you know, playing catch or whatever 605 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: it is, and that's it, you know. I think if 606 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,240 Speaker 1: we all get better at doing one thing at a time, 607 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: you're able to enjoy that thing. 608 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 2: You mentioned empathy before as a value that you're really 609 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 2: happy that you're passing along to your children. When you 610 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 2: think about other values of yours, what of those are 611 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 2: you excited to instill in your voice as they get older? 612 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: What's big right now? Top of mind is emotional wellbeing. 613 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: Being able to communicate your feelings. Being able to identify 614 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: and communicate feelings very big on that. I know I'm 615 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: a pistas and an actor, but that helps you in 616 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: relationship with others and with yourself. If you don't know 617 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: what's going on with you, you can't help yourself and 618 00:35:54,440 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: nobody else can either. And so give you example. We're 619 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 1: at Target. He told me that he needed a new 620 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: remote control car and he believed that Target would have 621 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: the car, so we should go to Target, Mommy, and 622 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 1: I said, okay, Samuel, let's go to Target. And we're trying. 623 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm trying to teach him, excuse me, right, So he 624 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,479 Speaker 1: gets it, but he's like, so say we were talking. 625 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,760 Speaker 1: He's like, excuse me, may Ma b You're like, okay, 626 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: well hold on, So he doesn't quite understand excuse me 627 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: means okay, then I would take a breath and have 628 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 1: to be patient and let that person finish their thought 629 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: and then they'll respond to me. And I like, didn't 630 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: get my feathers ruffled and I had baldwood and everything 631 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: when I loved him. And I was like, honey, we 632 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 1: mommy didn't get a chance to finish her thought. And 633 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,399 Speaker 1: I heard you, but remember what we said. You say, 634 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: excuse me, and then you have to allow someone to 635 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: finish their thought and then they can communicate with you. 636 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: What is it that you need? And the guy was like, wow, 637 00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: I hope when I have kids one day I can 638 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: stay that calm and make it that clear to them. 639 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,720 Speaker 1: And I said, well, it's like he just wants something 640 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: from me, and if why would you not want it? 641 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:07,879 Speaker 2: Now? 642 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: Like I have to teach him that and it's okay, 643 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: Like yes, he screamed, yes people heard him scream. Does 644 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: that make him a horrible human? Does that make me 645 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: a horrible human? No? But yes, I would say emotional 646 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: well being be able to identify and communicate feelings and 647 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: staying true to yourself, which kind of goes back to 648 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: understanding like your feelings and who you are and what 649 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: it is you want. I have a very non traditional path. 650 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: I am, you know, Gangbusters Rachel Elizabeth Nix. I don't 651 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: care what other people think about me. And it's not 652 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: that I don't give a shit about people. It's I 653 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: don't give a shit about their opinion because opinions are like, 654 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 1: you know what, So if you're judging me, I know 655 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 1: that actually has nothing to do with me and my path. 656 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: That has everything to do with you and whether you're 657 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 1: on the path you need to be. 658 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 2: I'm curious when you think about being a mom, what 659 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,399 Speaker 2: does being a mom mean to you? 660 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:21,320 Speaker 1: It's not all that I am, but it's an opportunity 661 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: to become better. My boys make me better. I have 662 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: an opportunity to grow and make better choices every day, 663 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: not just for them, but also for myself. They may 664 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: they for damned sure, it made me a better business woman, 665 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: which I always like to tell mothers. Go for your dreams. 666 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 1: I'm completely a crazy person. I found a nonprofit, but 667 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: go after your dreams. They're watching you. That's it. Love 668 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 1: is it joy is it? It's like, you know, we 669 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: live in this hashtag world. If I had to boil 670 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: down what I do and how I get through my days, 671 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,280 Speaker 1: like I just make the choice to be joyful filled 672 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 1: and filled with joy, and like just go after life 673 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: and enjoy it and it's just more fun that way. 674 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 2: Right now, you have an opportunity to offer the Rachel 675 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 2: pre Samuel one piece of advice period. It could be 676 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 2: about motherhood, it could be about whatever you want. What 677 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 2: do you tell her? 678 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 1: Stop worrying about boys so much? Ooh, I was so 679 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:44,839 Speaker 1: in love with love chow Uh Yeah, I mean I 680 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 1: was tenacious about relationships because I knew I wanted to 681 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,319 Speaker 1: be a mom, But I gave men too much of 682 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: my attention in my time. 683 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,240 Speaker 2: Wait, I've got to know how you settled on your husband, 684 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,399 Speaker 2: which is not how I thought that we would end 685 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 2: up going here. But how did you know that your 686 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 2: husband was the man that you wanted to both marry 687 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,240 Speaker 2: and be have babies? 688 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: Meth Because I asked him on the first day, this 689 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,800 Speaker 1: is what I want. I was like, you're from Alabama, 690 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 1: I'm not living there. Do you need to live there? Great? Okay, 691 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 1: I want kids. This is who I am. You want 692 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: kids great, you want to be married great? Like it 693 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,879 Speaker 1: was like eighty five questions on the first day, and 694 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 1: we were aligned, and that was my That's the most 695 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: important thing to me. You should be in a relationship 696 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: because you want to be full stop. It needs to 697 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: work for both people. It takes two. It ain't always easy. 698 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 1: But this notion of like we just going to ride 699 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: it out just because we signed a piece of paper, no, 700 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: that you need to work harder than that. And so 701 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 1: I don't believe in getting comfortable and it's okay to change. 702 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: I think we put too much emphasis on something like 703 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: lasting or working. People change jobs, people change cities, state. 704 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: I mean, like things change. It doesn't make you a 705 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,760 Speaker 1: perfect person, a good person, a bad person. I think 706 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 1: staying true to yourself and your partner is really important. 707 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 3: But you don't need a man to be you absolutely beautiful. 708 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 2: Way to close us out here, I'm so appreciative to 709 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 2: your perspective, and I think just really the take home 710 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 2: for me from this conversation is that, yes, like being 711 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 2: a mother teaches you so many things, but ultimately a 712 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 2: lot of the lessons that you've learned are helping you 713 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 2: in every single aspect of your life, and they're those 714 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 2: of strength and empathy and kindness and owning your value. 715 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 3: And those are themes. 716 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 2: Again, whether you're a mother or not, that are so 717 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 2: so important to walk with. Rachel, how do the hurdlers 718 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 2: keep up with you? How do they follow along with you? 719 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 2: Give me all your details? 720 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: Okay, so please follow me at Rachel E. Nix and 721 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,879 Speaker 1: please also follow at birth Queen Org. I would love, love, 722 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: love your support as I embark on this journey to 723 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 1: save lives and empower women to thrive. There's a lot 724 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 1: of ways you can get involved. Also visit my website 725 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,799 Speaker 1: birth Queen dot org. And I appreciate your time and 726 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 1: you listening. I feel very honored that you've asked me 727 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 1: to do this, even. 728 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, well, I'm sure a lot of people 729 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 2: are super grateful for your time and all of your takeaways. 730 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 2: I'm over at Emily Body and at Hurdle Podcast another 731 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:27,720 Speaker 2: Hurdle concord. 732 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time.