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Speaker 1: Jet Kerry Rhodes, who only had one incorrect pick because

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Speaker 1: he picked the Jets in the first round but had

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Speaker 1: It really didn't say former Jet. No, that's just something

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Speaker 1: that I knew, so I just threw it through it

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Speaker 1: in I want people to kno former Jet carry Rhoades

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Speaker 1: that said, I want people to know that people and

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Speaker 1: things associated with the Jets can actually win things.

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Speaker 2: But so you know, does Kerry know you're putting that

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Speaker 2: out there? Dude? It's on his Wikipedia page. I'm pretty jaid.

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Speaker 2: I think he scrubs it daily.

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Speaker 1: I want no references to me and the Jets anywhere

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Speaker 1: anywhere at all. I'm sure, just like I'm sure Robert

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Speaker 1: Salas scrubbed the Jets references from when he got hired.

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Speaker 1: By the time, I think Amy Adams Trunk just said,

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Speaker 1: weren't you really the head coach? I thought you were

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Speaker 1: the head coach somewhere. No, no, never. I've been the

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator here with the forty nine ers for the

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Speaker 1: last eight years. Look at the run we've had. No

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Speaker 1: I think I remember you brushing your teeth in a

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Speaker 1: commercial in you No, no, not me. That was that's

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Speaker 1: our other Joe Sala not me, not no, it's not

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Speaker 1: I was not There is not no no runs. Hang

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Speaker 1: on a second, Hang on, Wait a minute, Wait a minute.

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Speaker 1: You coached the Jets, didn't you. No, no, no. I

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Speaker 1: talked to them, but I didn't coach a Jet. Go

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Speaker 1: look and see if you can find any highlights of

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Speaker 1: the Jets. Say you highlights the Jets. That's funny. Uh

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, No, not on the inner anywhere. If I

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Speaker 1: asked a I know Robert Sala was never the head

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Speaker 1: coach of the New York Jets. Powered by Robert Sala

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Speaker 1: and his brother Joe Sala. I found two highlights. Oh,

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Speaker 1: Robert Sala highlights, No Jets. You found two Jets highlights.

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Speaker 1: He's got Okay, okay, yeah, those are Yeah, that's pretty

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Speaker 1: much the Jets history in two plays. Well, Nameth, the

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Speaker 1: fake spike, the butt fumble. That's the Jets history in

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Speaker 1: three plays, Well, trade not name it for a long time. Well, no,

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Speaker 1: I guess this is We're going on almost sixty years.

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Speaker 1: Trade not name You talk about selling your soul to

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Speaker 1: win a title. Yeah, but you know what, you don't

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Speaker 1: mess with vapor lock. Now, before we get to a

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Speaker 1: big story out of the NFL, let me just say this,

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Speaker 1: thanks to John Paul Morosi who joined us last hour

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Speaker 1: on the show. We talked Hall of Fame and what's

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Speaker 1: going on free agency. The Mets made a big trade

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Speaker 1: player for Louis Robert Junior. They're gonna pay his salary,

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Speaker 1: which is why the Mets trade would didn't have to

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Speaker 1: give up two of their better prospects. This is what

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Speaker 1: it's like when you have an owner with deep pockets.

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Speaker 1: So now I'm ready for the NLCS. I'll see the Dodgers,

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Speaker 1: except this time we'll have soda.

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Speaker 2: Does this mean I have to get rid of my

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Speaker 2: LaPenta chain that I got from those years ago?

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Speaker 1: Is it? Is it the band Pantera?

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Speaker 2: I just going it doesn't preclude it for making other moves.

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Speaker 2: But here's till the salary cap comes in, donad.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing for money. And this is how

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Speaker 1: Numerous reports today let off by the Athletic when Kyle

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Speaker 1: It's gonna wind up being Kyle Tucker that gets a

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Speaker 1: and deferring all of his money to forty years from now. No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be Kyle Tucker. And the fact that Dodgers

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Speaker 1: have the roster they have now two point two billion

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Speaker 1: Kyle Bleepin' Tucker that gets the salary cap to Major

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Speaker 1: League Baseball. Said that last week, this is why I

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Speaker 1: Owners are so mad they' will one hundred percent be

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Speaker 1: hundred percent. Everybody wants a salary cap because of Kyle Tucker.

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Speaker 1: Want to stop the Dodgers from loading up like to

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Speaker 1: a guy who checks his phone every inning, good luck,

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Speaker 1: good luck Kyle. You heard all the stories. Good luck

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Speaker 1: it's good for business. But here's the part of it

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Speaker 1: the players, right, this is the trickle down effect for baseball.

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Speaker 1: to Luis Robert Junior for this year. I'm absolutely good

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Speaker 1: with that. And you think he would wear a fitted

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Speaker 1: adjustable hat, which I guess is okay. But this is

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Speaker 1: the whole big movement of why the whole Kyle Tucker

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Speaker 1: is getting us a salary cap in Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 2: Think about that, Yeah, I think when we get down

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Speaker 2: to it, though, there's a lot more that go through.

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Speaker 1: Trickle down economics a bit of a dangerous rhymes with

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Speaker 2: Exactly, just saying it's a problematic, larger concept. But when

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Speaker 2: we get down to what Major League Baseball and their

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Speaker 2: payrolls were this last year, you had what five teams

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Speaker 2: finish under one hundred million, You had half of the

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Speaker 2: one hundred million from the national media rights. And that's

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Speaker 2: even with the sweetheart deal that the Dodgers have that

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Speaker 2: people want to complain about all y'all in those owners meetings.

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Speaker 2: You agreed to it all those years ago, so beat it.

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Speaker 2: But all of that to say that that's one hundred

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Speaker 2: and half the league exceeds that by fifty percent. Right, So,

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Speaker 2: and that's not talking about your local money. That's not

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Speaker 2: talking about your local advertising. That's not asses and seats,

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Speaker 2: hot dogs and popcorn and beer sales, parking lots, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: So you also still have to spend some money to

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear the players' union response to that,

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Speaker 2: because that'll be fun, hence lockout. But the larger thing

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Speaker 2: is you're still not going to beat the Dodgers on

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Speaker 2: the grand scheme because you're not going to spend the

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Speaker 2: even if you have a salary cap and you can

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Speaker 2: do that, what are you gonna do retroactively void all

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Speaker 2: of these other deals? No for the next decade, void,

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Speaker 1: You're screwed anyway.

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Speaker 2: But the point is that the Dodgers still have this

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Speaker 2: Yes, they can make up for a bad arm or

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Speaker 2: wait for a guy to be ready in one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent healthy, perhaps more than other teams can, absolutely, but

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Speaker 2: it's all the extra analytics and all the other behind

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Speaker 1: Right. That's why the Lakers sold.

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Speaker 2: Out as they did, because they knew they were losing

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Speaker 2: why I'm interested to see with Ishbia and what's happening

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Speaker 2: with the White Sox, Like, unless you totally fundamentally change

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Speaker 2: how you do business, you're not competing with them anyway, right,

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Speaker 2: And where it stands, right, you got to do something.

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Speaker 1: You got to start somewhere, and this is where they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be, right, But you've got a lot of owners

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Speaker 2: And it's not just hey I can't get that guy,

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Speaker 2: it's the I don't want to spend that kind of money. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's like, wait, they're still gonna go up to four

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Speaker 2: point five million a year if I do nothing. People

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Speaker 2: are still gonna line up at the gates and hand

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Speaker 2: me their money with a heat inferior product every year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but are they Are they gonna like because this

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Speaker 1: is I get undred million. Yeah, but that but this

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Speaker 1: baseball fans are smart and but it's it's not so

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Speaker 1: much about the immediately fans would stop coming. But if

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to less games. I'm not gonna spend

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Speaker 1: Kurt Signatty, what do you what's your uh? What's your platform? Uh?

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Speaker 2: Remember when Bloviators nationally and locally wanted. Ben Johnson fired

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Speaker 2: While you take tyreek Hill off the board, that's a

430
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Speaker 2: pretty big piece to lose in term whether he was

431
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Speaker 2: happy or not, even if he's just running wind sprints,

432
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Speaker 2: it changes a complexion of what a defense is doing

433
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Speaker 2: to you. Now you get to go back and just

434
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Speaker 2: concentrate on one side of the ball, rehabilitate the reputation a

435
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Speaker 2: little bit. Let Harbaugh take all the slings and arrows

436
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Speaker 2: and just hang out in La Frostburger.

437
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Speaker 1: McDaniel gonna be at sneaker drops. Now they I gotta leave.

438
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Speaker 1: There's a midnight sneaker drop on Melrose. I'm going to Frostburge.

439
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Speaker 1: This is gonna be an awesome time for you, man, Dude,

440
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Speaker 1: what does mine say?

441
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

442
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Speaker 1: Sweet? But it's the old rule of thumb of all

443
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Speaker 1: of it.

444
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Speaker 2: For the charges that we've talked about all these years, Chargers,

445
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 2: Ravens forty nine ers three teams that every year, I

446
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,640
Speaker 2: want a complete evaluation of what the hell you're doing

447
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 2: in your training rooms and why you lose so many

448
00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 2: games of your starters to and that, and that's the key,

449
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 2: right If you can get the bookends back, that's great.

450
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Speaker 2: You still need to work on your interior line, still

451
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 2: need to figure out how to allay the fears and

452
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Speaker 2: anger of Lad McConkie. His exit interview was not.

453
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Speaker 1: Basically he was saying, why the hell do we bring

454
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Speaker 1: in Keenan Ally caught all my passes.

455
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Speaker 2: I like the guy, he's a legend and whatever else

456
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Speaker 2: I mean, roads are mine.

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Speaker 1: That's part. That's a bit look because that I don't

458
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Speaker 1: know that that move would happen with McDaniel. It's okay,

459
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Speaker 1: you're bringing a guy that does the same kind of

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Speaker 1: things that McConkie, except he doesn't quite do it as

461
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Speaker 1: well because McConkie's like it that that didn't make sense, right,

462
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Speaker 1: So I get the move. This is a great move,

463
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Speaker 1: Absolutely great move, Keenan.

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Speaker 2: We had a couple of plays in that playoff loss

465
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Speaker 2: that certainly vexed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of.

467
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Speaker 2: Charger faithful uh and left me scratching my head at times.

468
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Speaker 2: But yeah, Herbert left some some throws on the field.

469
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Speaker 2: You clean up the line. Maybe he's not as uh

470
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Speaker 2: fearful as he would have been by that point, and

471
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Speaker 2: you move forward.

472
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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, the other big story to break right around the

473
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Speaker 1: time we got on the air tonight was the return

474
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Speaker 1: of Baker Mayfield, and by that I mean the return

475
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Speaker 1: of the salty I'm okay, get involved in other people's business,

476
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Speaker 1: blank you Baker Mayfield. Then, quite honestly, I've missed the

477
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Speaker 1: last couple of years, since he's matured and grown up

478
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Speaker 1: and become a good quarterback with the tap by Buccaneers.

479
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Speaker 1: I missed the fact that he would get into it

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Speaker 1: with me or Colin on social media about stuff. I

481
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Speaker 1: kind of miss that he's back now. It's like the

482
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Speaker 1: good old days are back. Like Andy Barnard says in

483
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Speaker 1: the Office Love Voice, that people would tell you when

484
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Speaker 1: the good old days we were there, so you can

485
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Speaker 1: enjoy him when they happened. All it took was one

486
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Speaker 1: tweet from a guy who writes for the Atlanta Journal

487
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Speaker 1: Constitution and the salty Baker Mayfield is back. He's back.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to find his motivation the good old day,

489
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Speaker 2: trying to get back into the basics. The Atlanta Journal

490
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Speaker 2: Constitution basically doing a throwing out the rose pedals for

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Speaker 2: Kevin Stefanski upon his arrival, decided to lay waste anybody

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Speaker 2: that Stefanski had as a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So A. De Orlando Ledbetter is a columnist for the

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Speaker 1: Atlanta Journal Constitution. He put out an article today on

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Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski in which it's about what Kevin Stefanski dealt

496
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Speaker 1: with in Cleveland now that he's not going to have

497
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Speaker 1: obviously here in Atlanta, and the lead to the to

498
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Speaker 1: the link to the article on Twitter said Falcons Kevin

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Speaker 1: Stefanski had a dumpster fire at quarterback in Cleveland. Baker

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Speaker 1: Mayfield and DeShawn Watson failed, which started a chain reaction

501
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Speaker 1: to eleven other starters, right, that's the lead, you know.

502
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Speaker 1: Read here for more on this story. Sure, so they

503
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Speaker 1: gets put out. Gets put out does not escape the

504
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Speaker 1: attention of Baker Mayfield, who you know, maybe because he's bored.

505
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Speaker 1: Quote tweets it and writes the following, it's got It's

506
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Speaker 1: got fourteen million views? Right now, that's the fourteen million views.

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Speaker 1: Failed is quite the reach, Pal calls him. Pal still

508
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Speaker 1: waiting on a tech slash call from him, meaning Stefanski

509
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Speaker 1: after I got shipped off like a piece of garbage.

510
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Speaker 1: Wait to see you twice a year, coach Baker Mayfield,

511
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Speaker 1: who is all sorts of better. I picture him firing

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Speaker 1: off that tweet and then going into the gym and

513
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Speaker 1: just lifting weights. I'm ready. I'll wait for next season.

514
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Speaker 1: I'm lifting weights. Come on, spot me on the bench.

515
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Speaker 1: I'm ready to go.

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Speaker 2: It's written Kevin across his knuckles in the whole nine yards.

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Speaker 1: Eh. Failed is quite the reach. Pal still waiting on

518
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Speaker 1: a tech slash call from him, after I got shipped

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Speaker 1: off like a piece of garbage. Now I have a

520
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Speaker 1: non hot take for you on this story. Right, I

521
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Speaker 1: have a non hot take, which is which reality? No? No, no,

522
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Speaker 1: I have reality? Oh right, because, like you know, look, clearly,

523
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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield is hot, and you could have hot takes,

524
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Speaker 1: but the reality of this is this for Baker Mayfield,

525
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Speaker 1: was Baker Mayfield a piece of garbage. No, Mayfield in Cleveland,

526
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Speaker 1: number one overall pick in the draft, had two good

527
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Speaker 1: years and two subpar years, right, That's what it was.

528
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield had two good years and two sub par years.

529
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Speaker 1: His first year was really good, right, got I think

530
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Speaker 1: you finished second for Rookie of the Year in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Second year not good, third year really good, fourth year

532
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Speaker 1: not good. So after four years the number one overall

533
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Speaker 1: pick in the draft, you're not trending in the right direction.

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Speaker 1: The Browns moved on at quarterback. I'm sorry, but Baker

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Speaker 1: Mayfield's got to own that a little bit, right. You

536
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Speaker 1: got to take a little bit of ownership that you

537
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Speaker 1: did not. Weren't great in Cleveland. But he's never taken

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Speaker 1: ownership for anything in Cleveland. First, it was Hugh Jackson's fault,

539
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Speaker 1: and I'm mad at you. I'm not shaking your hat.

540
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: It's Hugh Jackson's fault. Now it's Kevin Stefanski's fault. Dude,

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Speaker 1: No matter who your coach was, you had two good

542
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Speaker 1: years and two substandard years. Right'm not even gonna say awful.

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Speaker 1: You had two good years and you had two sub

544
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Speaker 1: par years. So yeah, you weren't trending up. You weren't

545
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Speaker 1: trending in the right direction. They had. They had finished

546
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Speaker 1: over five hundred and one year, which with the Browns, okay,

547
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: that's a big deal. But it finished over five hundred

548
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,719
Speaker 1: one year, and they had to make a decision on you.

549
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: If they thought you were getting better, if they thought

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Speaker 1: that you were becoming a great quarterback, they would have

551
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 1: kept you. They didn't extend you. That's what happened, right,

552
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: and what it took you a while to get around

553
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: to the point where, hey, it was three years later,

554
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: you land in Tampa, and hey, guess what you turned

555
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: out to be fantastic a year ago? Right? Forty touchdowns

556
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: a year ago. This year started out well, but injuries

557
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: caught up to the rest of the Bucks offense and

558
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: it wasn't quite the ending that Baker Mayfield had. So

559
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: this was more of an average, a little over average

560
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: type year form. So the last Cup. But remember, it

561
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: took you a while to get there, to get good.

562
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Speaker 1: Just take a little bit of ownership. That's all I asked.

563
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: If you know it's not Cleveland, you can't just sit

564
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: here and say, oh, whatever head coach you had, it

565
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 1: was their fault. No, dude, you're the concert there. You

566
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: had four years in that offense, and you wanted to

567
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: get involved in everybody's business. You wanted to get involved

568
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: in all kinds stuff. You wanted to walk around with swagger.

569
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 1: You wanted all of that smoke in Cleveland. And you

570
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: were alternately good. You were in every other year guy, right,

571
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: like Caleb Williams is in every other throw quarterback. You

572
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: were sorry, but didn't mean decides what that's my fault.

573
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: That's what that's Jets. We're at every year, bad team.

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00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: We're not every other year. That's the dagger, right, And

575
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 1: I make you think about it. We're in every other year.

576
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 1: We picked first, Okay, But I mean, just just take

577
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: a little bit of ownership on it, That's all I said.

578
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: I'm not since that you're the worst, you're the best.

579
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: You're there, just own that you did not play your

580
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 1: best in Cleveland half the time. And so yeah, I

581
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: get why Cleveland traded you. But to sit there and

582
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: say I got shipped off like a piece of garbage. No, dude,

583
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Speaker 1: you had a chance to prove yourself, to get to

584
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Speaker 1: the end of your contract, get that second contract you

585
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Speaker 1: couldn't get.

586
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,239
Speaker 2: Also fought to be traded because they wouldn't pay you

587
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 2: based on what you'd done. If there'd been more of

588
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 2: a level of consistency than you would have gotten your extension.

589
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 2: That's just the way the quarterback position works. But if

590
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 2: you're fighting with the media, you're getting in other people's contracts. Now,

591
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 2: I forget who the running back was.

592
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: Who was that that? He said?

593
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 2: Johnson, Yeah, suddenly got chirpy about that. It's like, all right,

594
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 2: the old rule of thumb and all of it. Don't

595
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: talk about and look at the other guy's girlfriends and

596
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: wives and don't look into their pockets.

597
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: It's always keep your mouth shut and never rit on

598
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Speaker 1: your friends.

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00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, never stand in front of the pulling guard.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's some good mantras out there, but just

601
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 2: saying in terms of locker. But in this case, like

602
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 2: you had your ears, you fought your way out and

603
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: then you couldn't win the job in Carolina.

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00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: Now, what the hell they were doing?

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00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 2: They had him and Sam and and moved on from

606
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: both of them really quickly. Yeah, got a funny because

607
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 2: that's another quarter million or a quarter billion dollars in

608
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 2: contracts that the two of.

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00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: That A lot of a lot of touchdowns those guys

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00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: are thrown for since then.

611
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: Right, But but all of that and that to say

612
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 2: that you had your opportunity, you've gotten your restart. I

613
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 2: like Salty Baker and if this is him just trying

614
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,479
Speaker 2: to find center again, uh and say his piece, because

615
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 2: this this.

616
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: Is a flowery piece upon his arrival to Atlanta.

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00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 2: I get it, local media, here's the new hail the

618
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 2: conquering hero and whatever you got. Kirk Cousins restructured his deal.

619
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Speaker 2: Maybe he stays, maybe he doesn't. And you're wishing and

620
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 2: wanting and hoping that Michael Panics Junior comes back and

621
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Speaker 2: actually becomes the player he was drafted to be, not

622
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Speaker 2: the guy that he.

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Speaker 1: Was before he got hurt. Because you don't what I mean,

624
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: that's that's the thing that's gonna get you fired.

625
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sure, hundred percent. Right, But here you go Stefanski,

626
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: two time Coach of the Year. He can't take those away. However,

627
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: I would say those rosters were actually constructed pretty well

628
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 2: as much as I get after Barry and Haslam for

629
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 2: some other missteps. To Sean Watson this one, you just

630
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 2: have to own your piece of it.

631
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Speaker 1: Quarterbacks have to own stuff and you gotta own that.

632
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: That's that's who you should do and not so it's

633
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Speaker 1: that head coach. That's that head coach is falt is

634
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: that coach's falt that it's all that coach. We was

635
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: not my fault. Well, I mean they learned from Dan Marino.

636
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 2: Hey, I never threw a pass that wasn't catchable or

637
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 2: that was errant.

638
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: Time. How to find out what's trending in the wide

639
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: world of sports? From CP three Chris Perfett, What do

640
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: you got for us tonight?

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Speaker 3: Soon?

642
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 4: That's right, let's get to the news machine. Luka Doncic

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Speaker 4: posted thirty eight points, thirteen rebounds, ten assists. It's his

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Speaker 4: fifty second thirty point triple double passing. Luka Doncic is

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Speaker 4: fifty one to be the second most in NBA history,

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Speaker 4: of course, behind Oscar Robertson, of which I think he

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Speaker 4: still only has about a half of what Oscar Robertson

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Speaker 4: has in that regard. The Lakers came back in the

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Speaker 4: fourth quarter to defeat the Denver Nuggets one fifteen, one oh seven. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 4: around the rest of NBA's rivalry week, Kyante George scored

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Speaker 4: a career high forty three points of the Jazz came

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Speaker 4: back to defeat the Timberwolves one twenty seven, one twenty two.

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Speaker 4: The Balls took down the Clippers one thirty eight, one ten.

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Speaker 4: Phoenix Suns took down the Sixers again, another coheated rivalry,

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Speaker 4: one sixteen to one ten finals score.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 4: Big news out of the NFL tonight Mike McDaniel finalizing

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Speaker 4: a deal to become the next offensive coordinator for the

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Speaker 4: Los Angeles Chargers. McDaniel had been scheduled to go to

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Speaker 4: Cleveland for an in person interview for their head coaching

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Speaker 4: vacancy for Wednesday, but he declined, took his name out

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Speaker 4: of the candidacy on Tuesday, and now he will be

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Speaker 4: in oc The Mets agreed to what traded the White Sox,

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Speaker 4: acquiring center fielder Luis Robert Junior from Chicago in exchange

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Speaker 4: for two minor league prospects, and in Baseball's Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 4: there and enter electing two new members, Carlos Beltron and

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Speaker 4: Andrew Andrew Jones, excuse me. College basketball Number three Michigan

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Speaker 4: took down Indiana eighty six seventy two. The Hoosiers have

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Speaker 4: now lost four straight games, and at the Australian Open,

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Speaker 4: Number three Cocoa Goff advanced in the women's singles with

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Speaker 4: a straight set victory over Olga Danilovich.

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Speaker 1: Back to The Jason Smith Show with Mike, Carmen, Nike,

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Speaker 1: you CP three appreciate it. So hey, you just heard

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Speaker 1: there Carlos Beltran and Andrew Jones in the Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame or you know one very good guy and one

676
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Speaker 1: star player coming up next? Why I am the last

677
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Speaker 1: guy you want to ask about Carlos Beltran in the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. That's straight ahead, Jason and Mike. Fuck.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 1: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 1: pm Pacific Fox.

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best friend

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Speaker 2: Mike Harmon. Big trade talk coming up in about fifteen minutes,

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Speaker 2: But big news today major League Baseball. Carlos Beltran and

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Speaker 2: Andrew Jones elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Jones was a very good player who gets into

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Carlos Beltran was a terrific player who, oh,

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Speaker 1: by the way, has that little stigma called, oh the

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Speaker 1: Astros cheating scandal hanging over him. And his election to

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame is extremely polarizing, right because I

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Speaker 1: get that boy that's still so fresh in our minds.

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Speaker 1: This is just from a few years ago and still

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Speaker 1: here because this opens the door now for the other

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Speaker 1: Astros players, we're all two ve it opens the door

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Speaker 1: for the steroid guys to get in, like really, we're

696
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: so close to We're so close to it. And still

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Speaker 1: remember how this is a fabric of the game. This

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Speaker 1: is about character and integrity, and he still gets into

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Speaker 1: the Baseball Hall of Fame, the sanctity of the game.

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Speaker 1: The fabric has been torn. But here's the thing. I

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Speaker 1: am the absolute wrong guy to ask, Hey, should Carlos

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Speaker 1: Beltran be in the Hall of Fame? Because for me

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Speaker 1: is no, no. Because Carlos Beltran's career comes down to

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Speaker 1: one at bat in one game in which he failed

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00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: miserably two thousand and six NLCS. You've probably seen. I

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00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: gotta explain the millennials what the NLCS is. Game seven

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Speaker 1: Mets Cardinals, right winner goes to the World Series. Mets

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00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: were having a great year, and I flew home to

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Speaker 1: New York for vacation, and I was so excited. Got

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Speaker 1: off the plane, Mets geared up ready for you. Got

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Speaker 1: in at like three o'clock in the afternoon, so we

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Speaker 1: can get in for the game at seven o'clock. Got

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Speaker 1: off plane.

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Speaker 2: I never told anybody the story before, because now I

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Speaker 2: came the years have passed by. This is when I

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Speaker 2: was just on the air for like two or three

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Speaker 2: years as a sports talk radio host. And I got

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Speaker 2: off the plane and a guy got off the plane

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Speaker 2: wearing a Cardinal's hat, and we walked by each other

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Speaker 2: in the baggage claim and I look at it. He

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Speaker 2: looks at me, and I said, yeah, not tonight, and

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Speaker 2: he looked at me kind of smiles. He goes, yeah tonight,

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Speaker 2: and I said, no, no, blanking way tonight. He goes, who, like,

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Speaker 2: all right, then, get the hell out of my face.

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Speaker 2: You're in New York now, okay, get the hell out.

726
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Speaker 1: And the Mets are losing three to one in the

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Speaker 1: ninth It was one to one top of the ninth inning,

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Speaker 1: and Yadier Molina, who was back then a twenty two

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Speaker 1: year old defensive replacement, hits a home run off of

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Speaker 1: Aaron Heilman three to one. I'm like, we're gonna lose.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna lose this game. We're gonna lose the NLCS.

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Speaker 1: But then bottom of the ninth inning with a young

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Speaker 1: guy named Adam Wayne wright In, who was still discovering

734
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: what kind of player he was, what kind of pitcher

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00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: he was, gets into a little bit of trouble. Mets

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Speaker 1: load the bases with two out. Paul Laduka walks to

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Speaker 1: load the bases. Shay goes crazy, and I could still

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00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: see Laduca. He walks on four pitches, he walks ball four,

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Speaker 1: and he's running up the first base and he's got

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Speaker 1: his hands and fists looking at Carlos Beltran, like we

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Speaker 1: got it. Now. Here's Beltran, who had the year of

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Speaker 1: his career that year forty one home runs, one hundred

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Speaker 1: and sixteen RB, should have been MVP. Here he is

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Speaker 1: up with two outs, bases loaded, and you got a

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Speaker 1: rookie whose knees are knocking against each other. And what happens.

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Speaker 1: Three pitches and he strikes out looking on a curveball,

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Speaker 1: a curveball with which Adam Wayne Wright said years later,

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Speaker 1: it was the best curveball I ever threw in my life.

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Speaker 1: Oh to two, not gonna waste it. Throws this curve

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Speaker 1: to strike out Beltran and send the Cardinals to the

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Speaker 1: World Series. Cardinal's leading three to one.

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Speaker 5: Here in the bottom of the ninth inning, one of

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Speaker 5: the most dangerous hitters in the business at the plate,

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Speaker 5: Carlos Beltrock.

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Speaker 1: He is ready, so is Wayne right.

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Speaker 5: The O two delivery curves struck him out looking. The

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Speaker 5: Cardinals are going to Michigan to take on the Tiger.

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Speaker 5: They mah, They mob Adam Wayne Wright on the mound.

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Speaker 5: They are National League champions and headed Fortny Troy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, great Cardinals. Radio Network, congratulations, whoopee yes, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: love I love Carl's about that. You know, people ask

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Speaker 1: me to tell you excited because he's probably gonna go

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Speaker 1: in as a met I don't care good for him.

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Speaker 1: What does that do for me? I still lost the

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Speaker 1: NLCS because you got caught looking at that curveball. Not

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Speaker 1: that you were gonna hit it, because boy, that curveball

767
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: really was something, but you strike out on three pitches

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Speaker 1: and I'm sorry, but there's something to be said for

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Speaker 1: leaving the bat on your shoulders with the bases loaded

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Speaker 1: two outs in the bottom of the ninth inning of

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Speaker 1: the NLCS. Right, there's something to be said. And that's

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Speaker 1: his whole career, everything he's done. Forget about the cheating,

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Speaker 1: forget about everything else, forget about it. It comes down

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Speaker 1: to one at bat, that one play for me. That's me.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that I actually saw the end with

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Speaker 1: my eyes open, because as soon as I saw Waynwright

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Speaker 1: throw it, and I saw the hump of that curve

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Speaker 1: and I saw Melina catch it, I closed my eyes,

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00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: said and I went black. I knew it was strike

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Speaker 1: three and we just lost the NLCS.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the image I used when I

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Speaker 2: promoted the appearance of John Paul Morosi with us earlier

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Speaker 2: on my Twitter account at Swollen Dome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, buddy, that's it. And that's why I can't

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Speaker 1: hear sexy back ever, because I'm in a bar with

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Speaker 1: all my cousins. Right, I'm ten years I'm the oldest cousin, right,

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Speaker 1: so I'm ten years older than all my other cousins. Right,

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Speaker 1: so that's time. I'm thirty five. My cousins are all

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Speaker 1: twenty five. Twenty six whatever it is, and I don't

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Speaker 1: see my family that often. We all go out. We

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00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: all go out to a bar. Me and my younger

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00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: cousins were having the best time. We're watching the game.

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Speaker 1: It's exciting, all this stuff, and we're like one of

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Speaker 1: the only ones in the bar, right we basically like

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Speaker 1: there's like twelve of us. We have like the whole

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Speaker 1: bar to ourselves. And as soon as strike three goes,

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00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: like the owner of the bar could tell okay, we're split,

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00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: like the Mets just lost. And he gets on the

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Speaker 1: microphone and says, hey, just because the game's over doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean we have to stop partying. We're still here. We

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00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: got drink specials going on. Don't go anywhere, and he

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00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 1: hits sexy by justin Timberlake, and I'm trying. I want

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Speaker 1: to yell at him, No, I'm going I'm going home

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00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna punch a brick wall because I just lost.

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00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: The NLCS don't sit here a play. So now every

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00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: time I hear sexy back, it's like PTSD for me

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00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: with the Mets, where I think of that. I think

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00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: and just watching him watch that curve come in and

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00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: it's in I mean, that's an amazing curve that comes in. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I'm just like, I just I go back to

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Speaker 1: that every single time. Well, make it feel better when

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Speaker 1: Wayne Wright goes into the Hall of Fame. No, no, well,

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Speaker 1: because he's gonna say, oh that pitch. I wasn't even

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Speaker 1: throwing my curveball a lot back then, or all. I

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Speaker 1: gotta thank the Braves for teaching me how to throw

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Speaker 1: a curveball and all it's I think he was saying

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Speaker 1: I was gonna waste that pitch. I was gonna waste it,

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Speaker 1: but I said no, and I threw It's the best

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Speaker 1: curveball I ever threw in my life. Yeah. No, Sorry,

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Speaker 1: Carlos Beltran not a Hall of Famer. Sorry about that

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Speaker 1: someone else's Hall of Fame. If you were in a

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Speaker 1: Mets hat, I could see your plaque in the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame and think when you struck out looking and

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Speaker 1: the NLCS, if you struck out swinging, I could say, okay,

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Speaker 1: But but there's just something to striking out looking on

826
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Speaker 1: an O two count with the bases loaded. That's like, dude,

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Speaker 1: you struck out looking and you were the best hitter

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Speaker 1: in the league that year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was really thinking of going to in the

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Speaker 2: induction ceremonies this year, not because I'm a big Jeff

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Speaker 2: Ken fan or this really Sully's it for me though,

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00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 2: Like just the divide between all right, what do we

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00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 2: agree is okay? And who who gets in and who doesn't?

834
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Speaker 2: Going back to the ped stuff, some guys just walk

835
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Speaker 2: in because they were nice guys and a press conference

836
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Speaker 2: and other guys, and I don't think it was legit.

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Speaker 1: It's like, come on, I don't even need that. I

838
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Speaker 1: don't even need you. Got this now, I got this now?

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Speaker 1: Yes now, thanks, thanks for nothing, Mary Mack, thank you.

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00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 1: I never need to hear this song again. Yeah, but

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00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 1: she blew you kissing. I never need to made you

842
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: feel bad. I loved you feel better. We got big

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00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: time trade talk coming up next, because I never want

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Speaker 1: to talk about Carlos Beltran again. Fox