WEBVTT - The Truth with Lisa Boothe: An Interview with Kyle Rittenhouse 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.720 So I've got an interesting one for you today. Some 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:05.800 on the left have called him a white supremacist, some 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:08.160 on the right have called him a hero, but he's neither. 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:11.319 Kyle Rittenhouse was just seventeen years old when he went 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:15.520 to Kenosha, Wisconsin, on August twenty fifth, twenty twenty. His 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:19.160 goal was to protect local businesses, to potentially provide aid 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:21.919 to those around him, and instead he ended up in 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:24.599 a scenario where he was fighting for his life, where 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:27.720 he had to exercise his right to self defense. He 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:30.800 is innocent in the eyes of the law. Take yourself 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:34.280 back to when you were seventeen, how many stupid situations 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:36.800 did you get yourself in. Look, I don't think Kyle 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:38.960 Rittenhouse should have gone out that day, but he was 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:41.720 also seventeen years old. I think he went out truly 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:44.640 with the intention to protect his community. I also believe 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:46.680 in the right to self defense, and I believe that's 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:48.600 what he was doing, and so does the law. What 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:51.639 does Kyle Rittenhouse have to say about all of this? 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:53.800 We're going to hear from him in his own words 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:57.560 talking about his book Acquitted, where he tells his life 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:01.880 story and he explains exactly what happened both August twenty fifth, 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:05.400 twenty twenty, and in the days after, Stay tuned for 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:13.640 Kyle Rittenhouse. Well, Kyle, it's nice to meet you. I 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:16.280 appreciate you making the time. I imagine this is a 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:17.080 busy time. 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:19.560 For you, absolutely, so thank you for having me on. 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:22.840 You know, obviously you wrote this book to give people 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:25.840 better insight into who you are, because you know you've 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:29.839 been misrepresented in the media. But who was Kyle Rittenhouse 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:32.679 before August twenty fifth, twenty twenty. 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:35.560 Well, I talk about that quite a bit a bit 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:38.440 in my book, Lisa. I talk about growing up with 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:41.280 a drug addict dad, growing up homeless as a child, 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:45.160 and living on government subsidized housing while I had a 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:47.160 mom who was working eighty hours a week so she 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:50.080 could put food on the table. That's who I was. 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:54.840 I was a kid who was put in to unpredictable 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:59.800 circumstances and put in challenging times and trials that we 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:03.320 that most Americans face every day. And I wrote wrote 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:05.920 about that in my book. I also wrote about how 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:07.880 I was a police explorer and a fire cadet, and 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:10.760 how I had an urge to help people. And that's 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:13.120 essentially what brought me down to the riots in August 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:13.760 twenty fifth. 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:16.720 Who are you now? How would you describe yourself now? 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:22.639 I would describe myself today as a difficult question. I've 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:25.160 never been asked that one, But if I had to 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:27.840 describe myself, I would say I try to live as 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:31.320 normal of a life as possible, whatever normal means. I 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:35.160 work in nine to five. I've been doing a lot 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:38.480 of interviews lately to talk about my book and to 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:44.120 help share my story. But that's who I am. I'm 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:45.880 a person who wakes up in the morning and I 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:47.640 go to work, just like everybody else. 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:51.160 What's it been like to relive all of this in 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:51.959 writing the book. 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:56.359 It's been an interesting journey. It's been It's been difficult 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:59.360 at times because we've had to go back and watch 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:06.959 all all the videos and and relive everything that happened, 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:11.000 and watched the trial and talk about in detail my 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:12.079 entire life. 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:14.840 What have you learned about the media and all of this. 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:17.880 Well, I learned that the media will say whatever they 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:21.520 want to push their own narrative, and they are watching 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:25.880 you like a hawk. Twenty four seven. Just the other day, 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:29.000 I accidentally liked to post on Twitter from a friend 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:32.480 of mine, and Newsweek wrote a hip piece article on 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:34.800 it just because I accidentally like something, And I think 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:36.760 that's absolutely ridiculous that they do that. 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:40.120 In hindsight, Why do you think you went that night 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:41.560 in Kenosha, Wisconsin. 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:44.320 Well, I went to Kenosha, Wisconsin to help people and 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:46.960 provide medical aid and put out fires because I was 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:50.280 asked to be there. With hindsight being twenty twenty as 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:52.920 it always is, if I would have known, I would 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:55.440 have been attacked and put on trial and forced to 0:03:55.480 --> 0:04:00.000 defend myself. I wouldn't have gone. It wasn't worth it. It 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:01.600 doesn't change the thing fact that I defended myself, but 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:03.080 it wasn't worth it. 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:06.360 I think one thing that doesn't get discussed as much is, 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:10.320 you know, the politicians in Wisconsin failed. I mean, it 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:12.520 should have never gotten that bad that you know, the 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:15.520 community should have been protected from the beginning. Well, why 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:18.320 do you think that never gets focused on of how 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:20.680 these elected officials failed the community? 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:23.159 Well, a lot of elected officials like to lie to 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:27.200 their constituents and say what they want to hear and 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:29.400 then deliver on another thing, and then they're bought out 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:34.800 by lobbyists and paid for and essentially just do a 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:38.320 lot of this for money, when in reality it shouldn't 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:39.840 be done for money. It should be done for the 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:42.880 people and for their best interests, not for big companies 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:43.839 and lobbyists. 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:46.080 I guess you know, what have you learned about politicians 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:46.600 through all this? 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:50.440 I learned that very few of them can be trusted, 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:55.080 and they all have their own motive and their own 0:04:57.040 --> 0:05:00.760 their own agenda to push. And that's what I've learned. 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:02.400 And I learned you can't trust any of them, and 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:04.440 you really need to do your research on them because 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:06.120 a lot of times they'll just say what you want 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:06.400 to hear. 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:09.560 Take us through in your own words, because you know, 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:12.400 obviously the media has painted a picture. You know, Take 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:15.480 us through in your own words. What happened on August 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:17.120 twenty fifth, twenty twenty. 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:21.200 Well, on August twenty fifth of twenty twenty, I was 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:25.880 there in Kenosha helping people, providing first aid, and I 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:28.360 was going to put out a fire at a CarMax 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:31.320 that we were protecting to put out fires, and I 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:35.520 was ambushed by several people and forced to defend myself 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:39.240 against Joseph Roe's mom, then chased down and had to 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:43.240 defend myself a second time against three other attackers, one 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:46.240 being jump kick Man, the other being Anthony Huber, who 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:47.560 hit me in the back of the head with the 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:50.400 skateboard while I was on the ground, and the third 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:52.680 be engaged grocers who put a gun in my face 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:54.080 while I was also on the ground. 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:56.119 What do you think would have happened if you hadn't 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:57.080 have defended yourself. 0:05:57.200 --> 0:05:59.680 Oh, I'd be dead. I would one hundred percent be 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:01.200 dead if I didn't defend myself. 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:04.400 Yeah, I think a lot of times in these situations, 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:08.400 you know, it's hard for anyone to know what it's 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:10.919 like to have to make a split sef decision. I 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:13.040 mean we see this with police officers very often who 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:17.279 get condemned for using lethal force. It's almost impossible for 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:20.400 people to put themselves in that situation of the kind 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:22.480 of decisions you have to make in you know, a 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:24.800 split second. I mean, you didn't really have time to 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:27.880 think about you know what this all would lead to. 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:30.160 I mean, it was a split second decision you had 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:30.520 to make. 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:35.479 Absolutely everything happened within a total of like three minutes 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:38.520 from the first shooting to when I turned my when 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:41.400 I walked to the police line. People don't realize how 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:43.760 fast that happened. And of course in a courtroom you 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:46.360 could slow everything down and go frame by frame and 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:49.159 go through all the details, and it seems like this 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.800 was this long event, when in reality, it was this 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:55.760 very short, quick event of where I had to defend myself. 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:58.800 You know, obviously you said you regretted going that night. 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:01.000 I think most people would say, you know, why was 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:03.279 he there as a seventeen year old? But you know 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:06.520 you were seventeen. Not everyone makes the best decisions when 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:09.520 you're seventeen years old. I can't imagine the fear that 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:12.920 you were going through when you know, you realize that, okay, 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:16.400 I'm under attack, I could die, you know, take us 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:18.080 through that absolutely. 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:22.120 So I was terrified. I knew if I didn't defend myself, 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:24.119 I wouldn't be going home and I would be dead. 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:26.680 And I did what I had to do to protect myself. 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:30.920 I was scared and terrified for my life. 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:37.760 What's it like when you were awaiting trial, you know, 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:40.960 not not knowing how this jury would come down on 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:45.040 these charges against you. I mean, I imagine you know, 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:48.720 that's just got to be so anxious and scary to 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:51.200 be awaiting your fate in the hands of a jury, 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:53.080 and you have no idea which way they could go, 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:55.120 particularly in this environment, in this world. 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:57.200 Well, I just had to trust in God. I had 0:07:57.200 --> 0:07:59.800 to trust in whatever happened was going to happen. No 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:02.320 matter what. God plan is the right plan, and he 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:03.760 would keep me safe and protected. 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:06.800 Did you Was there any part of you when the 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:09.640 jury came down that you thought that it could go 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:10.440 in the other direction. 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:13.600 I didn't actually think about that much. I was just 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:16.920 I was so nervous for the verdict because it could 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:20.400 have gone any direction. The jury could have voted any 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:22.920 single way. They could have decided I was guilty or 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:25.040 not guilty, and thank god they made the right verdict 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:28.800 to declare me not guilty. But I didn't focus on 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:30.760 that much because they would have just ate me up 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:31.280 too much. 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:35.600 You also had some civil lawsuits filed against you as well. 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:37.000 Are you still fighting those? 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:40.559 Yes? I am. I'm fighting three civil lawsuits at the moment. 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:45.040 And you've also threatened to tosue the media. What's the 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:48.120 status of that. On these defamation lawsuits. 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:51.600 We looked into it. Defamation is near impossible to prove, 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:55.920 and they consider me a public figure, so I have 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:58.160 a higher bar to prove, and essentially the media can 0:08:58.200 --> 0:08:59.600 say whatever they want about me. 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:02.800 You know, I think people you know forget well. Campaigning 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:06.320 for president, you know, Joe Biden used images of you 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:10.760 in a campaign video. That must have been pretty alarming 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:11.720 for you to have seen. 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:15.800 Oh that ticked me off. Like to see the former 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:21.120 vice president and now current president using my face in 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:24.400 his campaign video to gain voters and making something that 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.680 was non political political, it really ticks me off. 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:30.400 Take a quick commercial break more with Kyle Rittenhouse. On 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:36.679 the other side, you had supported President Trump and attended 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:39.080 a rally. How much of that do you think came 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:43.640 into play in some of the public slander that you've experienced. 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:47.599 I wasn't very political before everything happened. A lot of 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:49.800 people will say I was, but I didn't really know 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:54.480 much about politics. President Trump came and supported me from 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:59.120 the beginning, and that's why I like President Trump. But 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:02.160 it didn't have a really play into why I went 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:05.560 down there. But I think they, the media and other 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.440 politicians saw it as this kid is a kid who 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:13.640 went to a Trump rally. He's this maga person. We're 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:16.400 going to rail against him. Even though I was seventeen, 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:18.280 because if I was on the other side, they would 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:19.560 have probably came to my defense. 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:23.360 I think what's particularly frustrating as well is, you know, 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:27.000 those riots were following the death of Jacob Blake, a 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:29.680 man who after you know, through investigation, you know, he 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:31.920 pulled a knife on police officers, she showed up at 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:34.360 a woman's house to revictimize her. You know, that's who 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:38.240 these people came out to defend and to riot for. 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:42.440 And we also have seen people like Kamala Harris praised 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:46.800 Jacob Blake as well. You know, the Governor Tony Ivers, 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:49.719 you know, governor of Wisconsin, you know, came out and 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:53.160 supported him as well. So I mean talk about that. 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:56.880 I didn't really pay attention to the Jacob Blake case much. 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.880 I know what happened a little bit, but I was 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.120 focus on my own things going on at the time, 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:05.880 and you'll notice I didn't. I do notice a pattern 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:09.680 with these left leaning politicians. They come to support these 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:15.920 violent criminals who do bad things, and sometimes bad things 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:18.280 do happen to them, and we do need to support 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:21.680 them because that's what we need to do. But when 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:24.120 they do the bad thing, we don't need to support 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:26.160 them and encourage them for doing bad things. 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:31.240 Tony Evers. I mean, you know, we've seen cases of 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:34.160 self defense in the country. You know Daniel Penny, you know, 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:38.880 currently facing trial for what happened in New York City. 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:42.400 Why do you think there's such an animus against the 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:43.520 right to self defense? 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:48.079 Because I think the government wants complete control and they 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:50.000 want to take that right from us, and we can't 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:51.920 let them. We have to vote them out and put 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:54.840 politicians in place that will support the right to self defense, 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:58.480 who will support the Second Amendment, and who won't throw 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:00.640 you in prison for defending yourself. 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:04.920 Why do you think these kinds of riots that we 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:07.400 saw in the summer of twenty twenty, and you know 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:09.920 we're seeing some of it now, you know, these pro 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:14.800 Palestinian riots. Why do politicians allow for some of these 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:16.760 violent riots to take place. 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:21.000 I think it puts fear into other voters who aren't outrioting. 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:24.840 I think other everyday people see, oh, while the world 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:27.160 is burning down, if we don't vote for this left 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:30.120 leaning politician, we're just going to have more riots than 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:32.040 the riots aren't going to stop. Because if you notice 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:34.800 a pattern, they always flow up during an election cycle. 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:39.439 Why do you think the Second Amendment is so despised 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:41.000 by so many Americans? 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:44.680 That's a good question. I have no idea. The Second 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:48.160 Amendment was written by our founding fathers and it was 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:51.199 very intentional what they wrote, and I think it should 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:53.480 stay that way. I think our founding fathers they wrote 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:58.840 our Constitution very intentionally, and our politicians' jobs are to 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:02.199 protect the Concertstitution and make sure that the Constitution has 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:06.080 followed through with. But we have politicians like Gavin Governor 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:11.920 Gavin Newsom, Newsom who's trying to introduce a twenty eighth 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:17.120 Amendment on firearms and that essentially dissolves the Second Amendment 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:19.800 and that can't be stood for that's unconstitutional. 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:23.440 If you had to sum up everything that's happened to you, 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:25.720 what have you learned from all of this? 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:29.080 Learn who you can trust, learn who you let into 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:32.640 your circle, and to always think before you do something. 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:36.880 What's been the response from, you know, family and having 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:38.240 to battle through this. 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:42.400 My family has been very supportive during the trials and stuff. 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:44.040 You know, and I know a lot's been made of 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:47.719 Oh well, you know, you're trying to profit off of this, 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:50.320 you know, with the book. But what have been the 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:55.040 costs in having to defend yourself in court and in 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:58.280 with these civil cases as well, that the financial costs. 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:02.560 Millions of dollars have been paid to lawyers to keep 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:05.199 me out of jail and to help fight these civil lawsuits, 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:06.880 and I still have legal debt. 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:09.920 What have you learned about the legal process through all 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:10.160 of this? 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:17.480 That lawyers are expensive. Lawyers are very, very expensive, and 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:20.720 that the legal system will try to mess with you 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:24.720 every way possible to throw you in prison, and they'll 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:27.120 try to make it to where you can't defend yourself, 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:29.200 and then if you do win, they'll draw you in 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:31.560 civil lawsuits and try to bankrupt you and take every 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:32.760 financial asset you have. 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:36.360 Do you think you know when people say justice is blind, 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:37.840 is it? 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:40.880 It can be? It can be blind in sometimes in 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:43.560 some ways I think a lot of people. I think 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:46.560 our court system works in an extent. It worked for 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:49.720 me in the criminal case. Our justice system worked. I 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:52.160 shouldn't have been prosecuted, but the jury got it right. 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:53.920 They looked at the facts and they did not let 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:59.520 public opinion or bias sway them to voting guilty. They 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:03.200 voted the correct verdict, not guilty. But there's other cases 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:06.320 such as Daniel Perry to where the jury voted guilty 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:12.960 when there was an overwhelming amount of self defense claims 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:16.080 in his trial, and in my opinion, I believe he 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:17.400 acted in self defense. 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:21.520 If your case was tried in a different state, a 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:24.360 different part of the country, what do you think the 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:25.240 outcome would have been. 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:27.680 That's a good question. I thought about that a lot 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:31.040 until the Daniel Perry situation, because I thought, Hey, if 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:33.120 this happened in Texas, I would never have been tried. 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:36.600 But Daniel Perry, who had a similar situation, he was 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:42.560 tried and he was found guilty. So it was a 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:48.000 very difficult thing to see. But it made me think like, wow, 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:52.120 maybe if this did happen in a more conservative state, 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:54.320 I would have still been put on trial, because it 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:56.280 all depends on the DA of that county. 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:59.600 Yeah, and we've seen people like you know, George Soros 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:04.080 trying to elect some of these progressive das. What do 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:06.920 you think that means for the future of the country. 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:10.400 You know, how concerned are you about the you know, 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:14.120 justice system as we move forward as a country with 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:15.840 some of these progressive das. 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:18.160 Well, it's very scary. It's a very scary thing to 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:24.520 say that George Soros wants to have these left leaning 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:31.000 and bad district attorneys elected, because then it means that 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:34.720 he practically has full control of the judicial system. And 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:38.240 it's scary to see. It's scary to see what will 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:42.680 happen if that is the case, and how the DA's 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.000 that are elected by him will twist the law and 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:46.920 throw innocent people in prison. 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:52.440 Quick break stay with us some on the rate, Have 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:55.560 you know, sort of made you a full hero to 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:57.720 some degree? Why do you think that is? 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:02.920 I don't know. I'm not a hero at all. I'm 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:04.439 not a hero. I'm not a villain. 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:07.399 I'm just a person, you know, and talking do it 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:10.760 and seeing you know, your interviews and reading up about you. 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:12.639 There does not seem to be any case to be 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:15.280 made that you went there that night looking to harm 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:19.320 people or looking to you know, kill people, or anything 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:21.800 like that. What's the toll on a human being to 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:24.480 have to take the life of another person. 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:27.600 Well, I deal with emotional trauma every single day. I 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:31.679 deal with PTSD and nightmares and anxiety when I go 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:34.760 out into public. It's a huge toll that a lot 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:36.160 of people don't realize. 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:38.879 Are you seeking therapy and trying to work through that. 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:41.879 There are some people I talk to and there are 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:44.080 ways that I do work through this. I have a 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:46.399 service dog who has been a great help, and he 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:49.800 comes with me everywhere. You probably hear him in the background. 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:53.120 He's moving around, ready to go outside and play. Some ball. 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:55.720 Dogs are sent from God. I think we don't. We 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:58.360 don't deserve them. There I have a dog as well. 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:02.080 There are grazing creature, the amazing creatures. What do you 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:04.080 want for the rest of your life? Obviously your life's 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:07.359 been turned upside down. Obviously this is not the life 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:09.600 you thought you would have. What do you want to 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:10.399 do with your life? 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:13.119 I just want to live free from harassment. I just 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:15.440 want to live my life and live free from people 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:21.040 harassing me and coming up to me and like, just 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:24.159 move on. That was the goal with the Buck, is 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:26.240 to get my story out there once and for all, 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:28.640 and just to be able to move on after these 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:30.080 civil lawsuits. 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:33.080 I think most people, you know, look, I work in 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:35.679 the public eye, and I certainly have not experienced the 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:38.680 kind of harassment that you've experienced. But I don't think 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:42.159 most people understand kind of what that is like, you know, 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:45.920 take us through what you've had to experience in terms 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:49.720 of that harassment, in terms of that vitriol being aimed 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:50.359 in your direction. 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:56.919 I've experienced good and bad harassment. I've experienced death threats 0:18:56.920 --> 0:19:01.800 a countless number almost every single day. I experienced people 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:03.840 coming up to me when I have my mouth filled 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:08.840 with food I'm at a restaurant asking to take pictures. 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:12.439 I was out with the friend yesterday and we were 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:15.199 out at the beach and playing with my dog in 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:17.440 the water, and I've had people come up to me there. 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:21.040 It's just very difficult to go outside and to not 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:22.080 be recognized. 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:24.960 You've done a lot of interviews so far on the book, 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:27.119 and there's been a lot written about it. Is there 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:30.320 anything people are missing that you want to get out 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:33.080 there that you wish people would report on from the 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:34.640 book and from your life. 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:37.639 Yeah. The left wing media keeps reporting on the book 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:40.880 in a way that is terrible, and they haven't even 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:44.159 read the book based on reading their articles, so I 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:46.320 encourage them to read the book because they got a 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:50.280 lot wrong. Especially MSNBC. Their article they wrote a couple 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:53.199 of days ago is absolutely ridiculous, saying I'm doing this 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:55.680 for political power, if you just picked up the book 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:57.800 and read it, you would know that this isn't about 0:19:57.840 --> 0:19:58.720 political power. 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:02.760 Well, I did most accidentally call MSCMS thirteen a few 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:08.160 times on Fox my accident, but maybe but maybe somewhat accurate. Yeah, yeah, 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:13.400 because you faced it an onslaught of character assassination by 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:17.360 so many people. What's it like to be labeled something 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:18.080 you know you're not. 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:22.080 It's aggravating. I see it every single day. I have 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:27.919 constant media attacks, and it's just disgusting that the media 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:31.280 can say some stuff, say the stuff about me and 0:20:31.359 --> 0:20:35.000 just get away with it. Like they just constantly double 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:41.159