WEBVTT - Mick Shots: It's Friday, Friday 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:10.040 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:19.880 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:24.080 screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:28.800 Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:38.320 and Nicky Spagnola, and it is a Fabulous Football Friday 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:44.440 edition of mix Shots. Live. Inside this WBC Morgan Studios 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:47.920 at the Star in Frisco is one Mickey Spagnola. Hello, 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:50.920 Mickey Spagnola, Hello, I thought I was listening to Keith 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:57.000 Jackson there for a while. Who None. We got Everson 0:00:57.160 --> 0:01:02.320 Walls because we could not do without you. We could 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:05.480 not do without you, sir, Our promise you if I 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:07.720 had to, if I had to start this show with 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:12.440 Spag's voice every day, it would be a down there. Okay, 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:15.960 So thank god foot builds out. What are you trying 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:20.480 to say? God, Hey, I'm not trying. I just said it. 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:27.800 I'm Saturday, and we already for a fabulous football weekend. 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:33.920 In my opinion, this is the second full football weekend 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:37.360 of the year, because obviously it's the fourth weekend of 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:41.480 NFL games, but it's the second almost full weekend of 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:46.440 college football, and so that sort of completes my Saturday 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:50.040 and we go into Sunday. And so that's why I'm 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:53.880 extra excited about And we're in the month of October. 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:57.480 This is a football month, October, and that's why Mickey 0:01:57.560 --> 0:02:00.840 Spagnola the Cowboys are gonna turn the thing around in 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:05.640 the month of October. October turnaround, Mickey, Mickey and the Cowboys. 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:10.200 So we're expecting Spags to help us turn around the Cowboys. 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:14.200 All right, here we go. Now you're in trouble if 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:21.079 I got a turn around, but it should be fun. 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:23.320 Over the course of the next forty five minutes, we'll 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:26.320 be breaking down what the Browns bring to town. They 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:29.880 are riding a wave of momentum. They've won two straight 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:34.200 games over the likes of the Cincinnati Bengals and the 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:37.760 Washington football team. So you know that they are brimming 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:40.919 with confidence as they come in here and take on 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:43.880 a one in two Cowboys team. And let me tell you, 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:47.560 that's what makes this game all the more important for 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:51.120 the Cowboys. They can't afford to get to one in three. 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:55.519 They've got to even this record at two and two. Mickey, Yeah, absolutely, 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:58.639 And you know this is as Mike McCarthy said yesterday, 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:02.200 and important three games stretch when you have the unusual 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:08.280 three home games in a row. And again, they just 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:11.040 got to clean themselves up. If they clean themselves up, 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:13.760 you know, they should have no problems in this game, 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:17.000 I would think. But again, so it's kind of a 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:19.640 they need to Micky, Micky. They need to take a 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:22.800 COVID approach to this. They got to clean themselves up. 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:28.280 They got to wash their hands, I said, I said 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:31.720 on Monday morning after the game Saturday, they need to 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:39.720 go buy some extra strength, mister clean. And so if 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:42.720 they can take care of themselves, they'll take care of 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:46.280 the Browns. But first and foremost, they got to take 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:50.560 care of themselves. They got to cut the turnovers out. 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:54.520 They got to execute. They can't have mistakes that lead 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:58.880 to big mistakes that lead to turnovers, and you can't 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:01.960 fumble kickoffs and then recovered at the one yard line, right, 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:06.480 So if you eliminate all that stuff, and you eliminate 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:08.960 the mistakes, then yeah, you ought to be able to 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:13.800 overcome them, the opposition. But when you got to overcome 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:18.400 yourself and the opposition, yeah, it's not a pretty sight. 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:21.479 And we've seen it, you know, it's fifty fifty. One 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:24.400 time you do, one time you don't. So that's kind 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:28.800 of the way it goes. And on the other hand, 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:31.960 when you look at the Browns, boy, they are feeling 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:35.280 so good about themselves right now. I don't think I've 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:41.120 I've played for a more prouder organization than the Cleveland Browns. Obviously, 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:44.280 they're older than the Cowboys. They don't have any type 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:48.960 of American America's Team Moniker or anything. They're just the 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:52.280 Browns who have been the Browns from the beginning of time, 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:55.080 except for when I think they were the Saint Louis Browns. 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:59.000 But for the most part, that Cleveland Browns organization has 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:02.920 been through a lot. They are two and one, and 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:06.400 when they're riding a two game winning street, these guys 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:09.520 are really feeling good about themselves. It's gonna take a 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:13.080 herculean effort to just knock them down the side, just 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:16.000 knock them down the peg, because they are really feeling 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:22.840 confident right now, and that makes me a bit uncomfortable. Well, 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:25.680 and they're playing football the way they want to play 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:28.120 on the offensive side of the ball, and I think 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:32.279 it starts with the move they made in at the 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:35.240 end of last season where they brought Kevin Stefenski in 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:39.320 as their head coach, Alex van Pelt as their offensive 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:42.200 coordinator and by the way, he of course has ties 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:45.120 with Mike McCarthy. This is the second straight week the 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:47.880 Cowboys are gone up against an offensive coordinator who has 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:51.920 close ties with McCarthy. It was Brian Schottenheimer a last week. 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:54.880 Of course, McCarthy coach for his dad, Marty Schottenheimer with 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:58.040 the Chiefs, but Alex van Pelt, the OC for the Browns, 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:01.440 was on the Packers' staff, And in fact, the relationship 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:04.240 McCarthy has with Van Pelt goes back to when Van 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:07.240 Pelt was a quarterback at the University of Pittsburgh and 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:10.880 Mike McCarthy was just getting started in the coaching profession. 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:14.479 And then they got Bill Callahan as the offensive line coach, 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:17.479 and that is where the Browns really had to shore 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:21.120 up this team and give Baker Mayfield a chance to 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:24.680 do what he can do on offense. Because they they 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:29.680 drafted one offensive tackle, they signed another one in free agency. 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:33.000 They already had a two time Pro bowler at one 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:36.200 of the guard spots in Botonio, and now they can 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:39.440 focus on running the football with Chubb. We'll see if 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:41.960 Kareem Hunt is healthy for this game on Sunday. But 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:46.760 that's their emphasis. It takes the burden off Baker Mayfield. Mickey, Yeah, 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:50.360 and absolutely, And you know that was so. I don't 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:53.520 know if you guys got to listen to Mike McCarthy's 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:58.120 press conference today, but I had a question all teed 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:01.600 up in my mind yesterday and they kind of ran 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:04.120 out of time and didn't have a chance to jump in, 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:08.240 But I wanted to ask him about the Cowboys having 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:11.240 played their nickel defense those first three weeks of the 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:14.720 season against teams that basically are throwing the ball, run 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:17.800 three wide. But now you're going to face another a 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:21.559 team that is not that way, is not structured that way. 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:25.800 They like to run the ball. We talked about it yesterday, Bill, 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:28.560 you talked about how many I think it was seventeen 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.040 plays for a fullback. They like to play a lot 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:33.880 of two tight end. So my question to him is 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:35.640 going to be, how are you going to adjust your 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:38.320 base defense? Can you still stay and play all that 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:41.360 nickel or you're gonna have to have an extra linebacker? Well, 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:48.000 Todd Archer, ESPN Dallas asked that question. Mike started the 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:51.600 answer with, I'm sorry, are you part of the Cleveland 0:07:51.640 --> 0:08:00.000 coaching staff? He wanted no part of that question, right, 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:03.440 And Eddie came around and said, will be in whatever 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:06.640 personnel we need to be in to stop him, and 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:09.720 so that was that. But this is gonna be a 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:13.000 different opponent. They do like to run the ball. Now, 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:16.280 it'll be a question if it ends up being all 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:20.280 Nick Chubb, because Kareem Hunt had had a groin injury 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:23.440 and he didn't practice these last two days and it 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:25.720 was starting to sound like it might be doubtful that 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.520 he's ready to go. We should find out more about 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:33.960 that after the Brown's practice today. But yeah, they have 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:37.360 a few injury problems themselves, not just the Cowboys. But 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:41.439 you're exactly right. They better batten down the hatches against 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:44.440 this run. Otherwise they ain't gonna never get a chance 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:49.240 to rush Baker Mayfield. You know, it's so funny that 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:54.280 coach McCarthy's trying to be coy. There's really only so 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:58.200 many things you can do, right, Maga. We know what 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:02.680 the options are. I'm sure Cleveland already has anticipated and 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:07.080 practiced against the different scenarios and personnel that the Cowboys have. 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:09.920 I mean, you and I spast can sit here as 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:12.680 we did yesterday and talk about the different options that 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:15.240 we might have. You're gonna have to put in another linebacker. 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:17.640 If you don't put another linebacker, then you're gonna be 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:20.480 looking like the Chicago Bears with that forty six. You're 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:22.920 gonna have a safety the linebacker right next to each other. 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.640 They're gonna be kind of crowding the line a little bit, 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:28.920 especially if they already show with the two tight ends. 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:31.760 We already know what we have, so the personnel is 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:34.800 not gonna be Then they can't come out with any 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:40.559 type of personnel that's gonna just befuddle the offensive coordinator 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:43.040 for the Cleveland Browns. They know they've only got like 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:46.200 one or three options to deal with, and that's all 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:49.400 we can do. So I think we pretty much know 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:53.280 what's gonna happen. They know that we know what's gonna happen. 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:57.800 So all this secrecy and all this you know, playing 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:01.280 coy To me, it's kind of cute, but some unnecessary, 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:05.640 you know what he as the other thing? It go ahead, Bill, 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:07.880 you go ahead, Mickey. I was gonna say he also 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:14.120 other we got to play. We have to pull back 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:17.520 the court. They're on a two second delay compared to me, 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:23.800 so I have to slow down. Um, okay, I'm going uh. 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:28.720 He also pointed out if if Cleveland watched the game, 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:32.520 went over the Seattle game last week and saw how 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:35.920 susceptible the Cowboys were to the deep pass, you know, 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:39.240 he said, you know, they're gonna think we're very gonna 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:41.480 be run conscious. And he goes and I would imagine 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:43.640 they're gonna have some play action and want to go 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:49.760 deep on us to see if we've corrected our coverage problems. Well, 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:52.040 here's the other part of that too, is when you 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:54.200 go back and look at what Seattle did, and I 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:56.640 don't know, i'ven't studied Seattle a week to week to 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:59.160 know if this is something that they normally do with 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:01.800 their offense. But you go back to the Rams game 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:04.720 and what the Rams do. Sean mcvay's offense, they run 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:09.400 a lot of type formations, bunch formations with their wide receivers. 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:12.719 Will McClay was explaining it when the Cowboys played the 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:16.440 Rams last week. It's like an inside out type offense 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:19.280 that the Rams run. There's a lot of plays that 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:22.480 the Seahawks made against the Cowboys last week where they 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:25.480 were running from that sort of bunch formation and it 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:28.520 confused the Cowboys. And that's one of the reasons if 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:30.640 you look back at some of those plays and some 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:33.800 of those receivers were running wide open, is the Cowboys 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:38.400 were having difficulty dissecting who's got who, and they're leaving 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:43.440 guys open, either underneath or deep. It happened numerous times 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:47.079 in the game, as we all saw. But teams. To 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:50.480 the point is teams go to school on what's worked 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:54.320 the previous weeks. Now we've got all the teams have 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:58.240 three weeks of evidence of okay, what has been working 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:00.920 against this defense, and that's where you have to self 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.960 scout yourself to make sure that you take care of 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:08.040 those issues. That's funny. I like that bill, because that's 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:11.040 what they do. If you see something has worked, then 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:15.520 you say, okay, have they learned their lesson? And it's 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:19.120 bags you funny. You said they're gonna go deep on 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:21.680 them with the play action to see if we've showed 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:24.480 up our deep pass coverage here. We hadn't done that 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:26.840 for three years. We are you talking about it? So 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:31.480 we've never learned that lesson. That's that's a given. But 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:34.200 when it comes to the running game, we can't. We've 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:37.120 got to pick our poison obviously with this this defense 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:40.480 that we have, and as long as our ends can 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:44.839 can can shore the corner, as long as we can 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:49.440 shut down the wide plays and the bootlegs and things 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:53.160 of that nature, it will limit what the Browns offense 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:55.960 can do. So we have to worry about what our 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:58.120 defense is made to do. We have to make sure 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:01.080 everyone plays where they have to play. That has to 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:04.800 be a given. Otherwise we're going to be reacting to 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:09.040 every offense that comes in here as opposed to being 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:13.079 the ones that force the whole pace of the game. 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:17.240 We have not defensively controlled the pace of the game 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:20.640 in quite some time. That's where we need to start, 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:23.680 regardless of what the opposition comes in with. You know, 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:26.480 and what Bill talked about with the Bunch stuff, all 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:29.840 you gotta do is go look at the goal line plays, 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:34.240 the two point conversion plays. They bunched everybody up and 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:38.240 then busting them out, and the Cowboys had no clue. 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:42.000 And the worst one was Bill, was the touchdown when 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:45.080 Lockett was on the right side Bunch and he went 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:49.440 all the way behind the formation to the left, and 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:55.440 nobody noboddy went with them. So yeah, I'm sure I 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:58.920 heard Troy. I wanted to ask you about that, Spags. 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:03.440 That's when I Troy talking about our defense and he 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:07.719 mentioned that we have a goal line defense that is 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:10.960 man to man on one side and zone on the 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:15.160 other side, which is what the weakness was in that defense, 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:19.040 according to Troy, makes zero sense to me that a 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:22.920 defense like that exists. Is that something that we have 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:27.760 done throughout throughout this year, or is that something new 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:32.520 that we tried, or is just Troy just speculating. Well, 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:34.960 all I know is if he was on the side 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:38.400 where there was man demand and he ran into the zone, 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:42.240 the zone wasn't there, The zone was playing man demand. 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:47.240 So all I can't think of a defense that has 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:49.840 man on one side and zone on the other. Yeah. 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:52.880 I can't even fathom a defense like that because because 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:57.200 if on the locket play, you know, and it's easy 0:14:57.320 --> 0:15:00.200 or it's actually difficult for us in our position and 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:04.200 not knowing what defense they're supposed to be in, right, 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:06.760 because I mean, we can look at the coaches film 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:10.640 and we can think that, Okay, this guy made a mistake. Well, 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:13.000 we don't know for sure if who was in the 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:16.480 right defense, if anybody was, but anybody, I mean, it 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:19.920 looks like on that locket one it was like a 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:22.960 two man game, Russell Wilson and Tyler Lockett and he 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:27.320 ran that out and Trayvon Diggs. You have a rookie 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:30.600 cornerback on that side, and he was slow to react 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:33.960 on it and they having beat. But I have no 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:36.640 idea whether Diggs is the guy that was at fault 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:39.840 on it or not. But it gets back to whether 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:43.320 it was that play or the play where Diggs got 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:46.160 beat deep. I mean he was beat by a ton 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:48.840 of a little stutter step, and met Calf had him 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:51.360 beating him, would up knocking the ball out for a turnover. 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:55.120 But I asked you, Everson, how tough is it from 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:59.640 a mental standpoint for a cornerback like Trayvon Diggs coming 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:03.760 in here. This was his third NFL game, He didn't 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:06.760 have any preseason games, he had no offseason on the 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:10.640 field instruction. How difficult is it from a mental standpoint 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:13.520 for him to be able to make plays on the 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:15.320 spur of the moment like that and be able to 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:20.760 read what's going on and not get caught flatfooted. Well, 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:23.040 one thing you have to realize, of course, that the 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:28.160 unusual situation and circumstances that really affected his offseason you 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:30.600 talked about in lack of preseason. But if you're going 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:33.680 to come in and start, regardless of how many times 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:36.600 you get beat, and boy, I've been there as a rookie. Yeah, 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:38.320 I mean, those balls are gonna be flying over your 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:41.240 head because they're looking right at you when you come 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:46.360 out of the hubble. I remember Joe Eisman winked at 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:50.480 me one time. Jim Hart, you just basically pointed at 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:53.120 me and said, we're coming at him. So you're you're 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:57.040 always going to be the target of any quarterback just 0:16:57.080 --> 0:17:01.360 because of your experience. But once once you settle in, 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:05.160 regardless of what happens, how many times you get beat, 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:08.640 you have to stick with what's good for you. And 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:11.480 what's good for Trey Vonn is the fact that he 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:16.080 has the ability to catch up. He has the athletic 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:19.840 ability to cover any type of route. All he's got 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:23.760 to do is mentally calm himself down because right now 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:27.440 things are happening so quickly that he feels like he's 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:30.480 out of source. Whether he must do is and I 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:34.320 always did this. You have to speed up your thought process. 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:37.440 You can't. You can't be out there as if you're 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:39.880 half asleep. You have to be You have to turn 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:43.240 your brain and somehow you have to turn your brain 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:48.119 into a faster thinking machine, and therefore you can react 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:52.080 quicker from brain to feet. He's always been able to 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:55.480 do that. It's natural. He just has to allow himself 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:59.119 to do that amongst the fears that he has of 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:02.199 getting beat. The worst thing about the cornerback is to 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:05.760 be afraid to get beat. You can't be afraid because 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:09.440 it's gonna happen. You have to say, okay, you got 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:13.840 me that time. This time it's mine. There's no such 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:16.280 thing as defense of offense when the ball is in 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:19.920 the air. Built no such thing at all. Once it's 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:23.360 in the air, you think like a receiver, not as 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:26.360 a defender. And that's what he's dumped all throughout college. 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:28.600 He has to continue to do that in the pros, 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:32.120 even though right now things are going so fast and 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:36.200 we were up against your break here. But one day, yeah, 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:41.159 what that bell was? Thanks dat when name caught me there? Everson, 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:50.639 you played against Jim Hart. Jim Hart Jim Hart started 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:56.520 his career in nineteen sixty five, and you played against him. Hey, 0:18:56.680 --> 0:18:59.200 I can't help it. He's got a longevity. Don't care 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:02.680 on me because he's rugs everything. All I know. If 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:04.800 he lined his big building up there and he could 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:08.240 still throw that ball, okay, and he had great receivers 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:11.399 you know, back there, And don't just start talking trash 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:14.840 about the quality of quarterbacks, Spags. I don't want to 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:17.159 hear that ever again. You know it was one of 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:20.919 the greats. Damn right, you damn right, you tell Spags that, right. 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:24.520 I don't care if he did. Let me see, I 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:27.720 don't care if he did throw two hundred forty receptions 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:30.200 and only two hundred nine touchdown passes. He was one 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:33.359 of the greats of all time. Oh, shut up, Bill, 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:36.800 thanks a lot. He continue with more mix shots in 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:40.680 just a moment. 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We're 0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:05.160 just talking about Everson having faced Jim Mahart, the legendary 0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:09.640 Saint Louis cardinal quarterback. Well, Mickey just pointed out during 0:22:09.680 --> 0:22:13.880 the break that last weekend, of course of Mississippi State 0:22:13.880 --> 0:22:17.639 beat LSU, the defending national champion. First time that a 0:22:17.720 --> 0:22:21.560 defending national champion has lost the season opener since when 0:22:21.720 --> 0:22:27.520 Mickey nineteen seventy eight. It was Notre Dame. They pointed out, Well, 0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:30.119 I told the rest of the story because I covered 0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:34.359 that game. Missouri in Warren Power's debut as a head coach, 0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:37.800 beat went to Notre Dame and beat him three to nothing, 0:22:38.720 --> 0:22:42.560 three to nothing because former Missouri head coach Dan Divine, 0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:45.280 now the head coach at Notre Dame, had the ball 0:22:45.400 --> 0:22:49.240 first in goal three times inside the five yard line, 0:22:49.600 --> 0:22:52.920 and he refused to kick a field goal even when 0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:55.680 the ball game got down to the last minute. They 0:22:55.760 --> 0:22:59.720 went for it on fourth down, got stopped with Joe Montana, 0:22:59.800 --> 0:23:04.440 a quarterback. By the way, what a dummy. Oh my guy, 0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:09.399 he was tied. He was indictnant that he was going 0:23:09.480 --> 0:23:11.920 to have to kick a field goal to tie the game. Boy, 0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:17.320 we're winning this one right. Well they didn't. Yeah, And 0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:20.159 by the way, field I was just there was just 0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:25.080 pointed out Bill that Chris Bean was born in nineteen 0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:34.560 seventy eight. Who Christ, Wow, So there you go, mad, 0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:37.080 you go a little all right? I got a little 0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:40.600 trivia question for you, as he looks older. But that's okay, 0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:45.480 little trivia question. As we asked at the end of 0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:52.120 the show yesterday about how many players on the rosters 0:23:52.240 --> 0:23:57.240 of the Cowboys and the Browns played in state championship 0:23:57.320 --> 0:24:01.520 games at either Texas Stadium or at and T Stadium, Mickey, 0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:10.439 did you do your homework? Absolutely did not. Baker Mayfield. 0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:14.480 Baker Mayfield, starting quarterback for the Browns, won a state 0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:18.560 championship for Lake Travis High School at ATNT Stadium in 0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:22.439 two eleven, which happens to be the same year in 0:24:22.600 --> 0:24:25.719 January twenty eleven, Mike McCarthy won a Super Bowl at 0:24:25.760 --> 0:24:31.960 ATNT Stadium. That's okay. Who is the backup quarterback for 0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:35.520 the Cleveland Browns. It is case Keenum. He won a 0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:40.240 state championship for Evelene Wiley High School their practice squad. 0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:43.359 Quarterback Garrett Gilbert won not one, but I think two 0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:48.040 state championships for Lake Travis High School and the Cowboys. 0:24:48.080 --> 0:24:52.000 Backup quarterback Andy Dalton played in a state championship game 0:24:52.040 --> 0:24:56.080 for Katie High School at Texas Stadium. So there you go. Well, wow, 0:24:56.400 --> 0:25:03.919