1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: First of all, we like, thank you, bro, especially with 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: the circumstances and all that stuff. 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: We definitely appreciate it. But thank you for rocking with us. 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 3: Man. 5 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: We definitely definitely. 6 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 3: Rock with you. 7 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 4: Man. 8 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: We appreciate your game as being NBA players, what you bringing, 9 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: what you continue to bring, So Man, thank you, We 10 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: appreciate it. But the first question we asked everybody that 11 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,159 Speaker 1: come on the show is who's the first person that 12 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: busts your ass when when you got to the league? 13 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: H Cole, it was a buck ninety, so Cob was. 14 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:40,599 Speaker 4: The first one. Preseason. I it didn't really count. Appreciate 15 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 4: the forum too, so it was like the yeah, uh 16 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 4: stack Jack got thrown out at halftime of the preseason game, 17 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 4: so I had to come back and some reason I 18 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 4: got switched on him. So he's busting my ass in 19 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 4: one possession, so he like the switch. She walked me 20 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 4: down to the post call for the ball. But I'm 21 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 4: trying to do like the three quarter situation, like make 22 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 4: it look good for filming all that. He grabbed my 23 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 4: knee and did the whole thing where he wasn't gonna 24 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 4: let me move and I'm like trying to get away 25 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 4: trying to get away. I'm yelling at the reft thinking 26 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 4: he's a called offensive foul on him. I don't know 27 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 4: what I'm talking about. And uh, he got the ball 28 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 4: one quick shoulder to the chest, threw me like five 29 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 4: feet back, turning jumper. That was a wrap. Then the 30 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 4: second dude was Brandon Jennings and he had a double 31 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 4: nickel against that. 32 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 3: He was going everybody, everybody that was that look. 33 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 5: That was like, like you talking about eighth for ninth 34 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 5: game in the league. 35 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was the first East Coast road trip. He 36 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 4: had fifty five earlier in the game. Hearted, but he 37 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 4: dropped me early in the game, like the second quarter. 38 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 4: We were trying to blitz him, and he like came 39 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 4: off with the screen the left. This film of it too, 40 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 4: hit me with a quick little left right cross down 41 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 4: to the middle, and I just sat. 42 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 3: Down beat the proper respect, Like that boy was. That 43 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 3: boy was a bad boy. 44 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 5: He was out here killing fools and he was like, 45 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 5: you know, he kind of started that whole I go 46 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 5: overseas before I go through this, and like and then 47 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 5: prospered and came back and was still a lottery picked. 48 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 3: So he kind of he kind of set the tread 49 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: for that for a lot of coming. 50 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 4: I got a lot of coming him obvious the same 51 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 4: draft class, but uh he was under armous, first signature 52 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 4: shoe athlete. 53 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 3: He had six a couple. 54 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 4: I remember, just like you know, seeing what they was 55 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 4: putting on all that, and like five years later right 56 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 4: I was, I was on the squad and so it's 57 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 4: kind of crazy all that, yo, yo yo. 58 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 5: We live on location mill Walkee. We stepped into the 59 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 5: frigid cold for we hain't listen. We had to come. 60 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 5: When you got somebody that's the best ever? Is something 61 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 5: the best ever? Somebody? Every time he does it's a 62 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 5: new record. You gotta go ahead, pull up on the right, 63 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 5: black on the way, hey man, multi time champion, man 64 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 5: point blank the best shooter ever. Every time you hit 65 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 5: the three, it's a new record, y'all. Man, we got 66 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 5: Chef Curry in the fielder. Man, we appreciate you pulling up. 67 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 5: Bro y'all know this world wide, especially right here. 68 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 3: Lock in. 69 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: Every time you shoot one, it's a new record. 70 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: Like every time you make when you have that kind 71 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: of like sunk in, like man, that's another one. Like 72 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: like you just for the rest of your career, every 73 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: time you shoot it, that's a new record like that. 74 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 4: It ain't sunk in because I still I'm still kind 75 00:03:55,680 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 4: of really emotions of you know, the chase to to 76 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 4: break raised record and that whole just electric night that 77 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 4: we had at the garden. You can't write you know, 78 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 4: we got you know, storytellers and amazing war winning authors 79 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 4: and writers and screenplays and all that, Like, you can't 80 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 4: write that story any different if I'm not going to 81 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 4: do it at home, to do it at the garden 82 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 4: in front of Ray, in front of Reggie, in front 83 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 4: of my fam. I'm still kind of realing off of 84 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 4: the emotions of that. But h somebody asked me like 85 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 4: maybe two or three games after that, when I got 86 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 4: to three thousand, it's like that's a crazy milestone. Never 87 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 4: thought I'd get there in my life, and then a 88 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 4: whole lot left in the tank. So definitely do break 89 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 4: a record with every three. I can't celebrate crazy like that. 90 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, because you got hype. 91 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 5: But like that makes me think about like U d right, 92 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 5: you know you d find of like every time he 93 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 5: get a rebound, that's a new heat record with like 94 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 5: so so I used to be even though I'd be 95 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 5: messing with it like he boy, y'all see you for 96 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 5: a new record, but like you got for the entire logo, 97 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 5: Like that is insane to be like like you say, 98 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 5: got so much left in the tank, and it's like 99 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 5: because you detail me said every time I get a 100 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 5: rebound me that's a new record, Like that's legit, Like 101 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 5: that's a bar. 102 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 3: That's crazy. 103 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 4: It is, well, I do know, just because like it's 104 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 4: that weird like career type accomplishment. But I still I'm 105 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 4: in my prime, like and so it's weird, like to 106 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 4: celebrate something that was meaningful to me. It's just how 107 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 4: I play. Is what I've been working on my entire life. 108 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 4: But see how far I can stretch it, like everybody 109 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 4: talking about four thousand, We'll see, Like I'm just I'm. 110 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 3: Joining the moment. 111 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 4: Man. 112 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 5: That's just favored though, like you say, that haven't happened 113 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 5: in the guard Like come on, bro, like that like 114 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 5: Ray and Reggie Collin game, Like you can't line it 115 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 5: up like you said, you can't script it. 116 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 3: No better than that that was that was special. 117 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: No better is learning how to shoot like a family recipe, 118 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: like a secret recipe like in the family. 119 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, it's a pre record. Even my sister, 120 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 4: my wife, didn't grow up playing basketball, but she can 121 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 4: get out there and knock it down. 122 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:08,679 Speaker 3: He got the form. 123 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 4: It's it's obviously in our DNA and our blood and 124 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 4: just loving basketball. You know, we've been around in our 125 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 4: entire life. I guess talent can take you so far, 126 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 4: and we all know that, but you know, to develop 127 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 4: a real skill around you know, something like that, it's 128 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 4: just the reps and you have to love it. So 129 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 4: the natural ability is amazing. That's why I fell in 130 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 4: love with the game early. But you know, the reps 131 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 4: and the work that we all put in to get 132 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 4: to where we got in the league. Like it's, uh, 133 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 4: that's that's a special sauce right there. 134 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: I can't tell nobody the secret recipe, like the family recipe. 135 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 3: Do get it? 136 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 4: So yeah by Osmosis, Right, he's my favorite. 137 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 3: The Leaf story. 138 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 4: Like we're in New Orleans last year and uh, he 139 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 4: was playing big minutes for us. He had a breakout game, 140 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 4: had like twenty it's seven eight something like that, and 141 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 4: he's doing a postgame interview walking off the court and 142 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 4: I was in there with him, and so the reporters 143 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 4: asking us questions back and forth, and Mike Brown says 144 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 4: the coach. Now he comes up behind him like, oh, 145 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 4: them Curry boys can shoot. Deale turned around and said Lee. 146 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 4: So you get my name right, the Lee Boys. So 147 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 4: he he got a ratchet though, for sure. 148 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: But how was Toronto? Do you remember? 149 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 4: I love Toronto? 150 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: You remember a lot of it. 151 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: A lot of it lot And what was the transition 152 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: like from Toronto back to like the States and like 153 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: Charlotte and stuff. 154 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 4: It was different. I love the city so diverse. There's 155 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 4: so much culture there. The Raptors that was in the 156 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 4: middle of innsanity, so every game was it was unreal. 157 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 4: It's just too cold. We were just talking about that. 158 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 4: It was just way too cold. But I lived up 159 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 4: there for three years when my dad was finished of 160 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 4: his career. The adjustment was kind of cool. Playing basketball, 161 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 4: I was in what they you know, say, grade eight, 162 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 4: and I was playing against. 163 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 5: You, played against Corey Joseph and Kelly we All. 164 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 4: I was playing for the Toronto five. I can't remember 165 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 4: which teams they were playing for. We had like the 166 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 4: provincial championships there in London, Ontario, so I got to 167 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 4: play against the best of the best. And in Ontario. 168 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 4: It was a different It was the biggest basketball's basketball, 169 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 4: But it was also kind of a nice shot for 170 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 4: me to get away from North Carolina where I was 171 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 4: playing au and stuff, to just get a little bit 172 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 4: of a different competition and a little different vibe, different 173 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 4: style of basketball and build my confidence from there. And 174 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 4: then when I got back and started playing high school 175 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 4: back in North Carolina, I think I was better off 176 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 4: for it. But it was also like, I mean, you know, 177 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 4: I have my dad play in the league and watching 178 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 4: him do what he did, Like we talked about the 179 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 4: love of shooting. Me and my brother would go up 180 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 4: to the at the Eric Cannison to go up to 181 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 4: the practice facility and we for the first half and 182 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 4: then we go watch the second half. So it's kind 183 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 4: of like we're junkies. We want to just get shot 184 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 4: sulf and play one on one and work on a game, 185 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 4: but we also want to go out and watch the 186 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 4: best of the best do what they did. So it's 187 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 4: I was blessed growing up that way, like always having 188 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 4: an opportunity to go play and be around and be 189 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 4: able to see the best do what they do and 190 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 4: be inspired by it. 191 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 5: So like, tell me about that because I feel like 192 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 5: kids that get a chance to grow up around that, 193 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 5: Like you know what I'm saying. 194 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 3: You go into games, you're dead. 195 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 5: They got a video you sitting watch your dad be 196 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 5: in a three point contest and be at All Star Weekend, 197 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 5: you being around all that great, And it's like I 198 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 5: feel like that just like you say, like OSMOS is 199 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 5: like you just soaking everything up and you getting the unfair, 200 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 5: Like you're getting to look at the test before you 201 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 5: gotta come take it way before, and it's like can 202 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 5: you remember and retain a lot of that stuff? 203 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 3: But what do you think that is? 204 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 4: It's all of that, it's uh, the IQ of the 205 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 4: game and seeing how different guys approach it, Like there's 206 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 4: a lot of different styles. We all know that, and 207 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 4: you get to just see it every day and kind 208 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 4: of see guys developed throughout their careers and get better. 209 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 4: And I was always watching everything how guy's practice, how 210 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 4: they treated people in the locker room, how they what 211 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 4: kind of energy they show up with to the games, 212 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 4: you know, and then see how that produce on the court. 213 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 4: I also feel like it's it's kind of like an 214 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 4: either or situation for me when you grow up in 215 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 4: the league. Either you got a crazy sense of entitlement 216 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 4: like I was playing and like, oh, I'm gonna be here. 217 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 4: I'm supposed to be here because he did. Or it 218 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 4: is the gratitude of like, there's the best four hundred 219 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 4: and fifty basketball players in the world, and I know 220 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 4: what my dad went through to get there, Like I 221 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 4: gotta work my ass off to get there myself, and 222 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 4: like if I don't, you know, it's a waste of opportunity, 223 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 4: you know, So like it kind of that's up to you. 224 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 4: That's up to how you approach it. And I'm appreciate 225 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 4: that my parents for giving us a solid foundation of 226 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 4: how we can respect the game and that in that front, 227 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 4: because nothing was easy for me in my basketball journey, 228 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 4: like you know, physically was late bloom all that type 229 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 4: of stuff. But I got to see it and that 230 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 4: was a definitely blessing. 231 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 5: You said you were a late bloomer, right, So for you, 232 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 5: at what point did you feel like it started to 233 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 5: click for you even though you still only had you know, 234 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 5: so many you know, offers and things like that. What 235 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 5: point did you feel like for you and your mind 236 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 5: it started to work. 237 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, not till like half it through my 238 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 4: senior year of high school. I went through the AU 239 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 4: circus from So that's one of other things about me. 240 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 4: I played autil I was thirteen, and then I didn't 241 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 4: play until I was seventeen, and those three years just 242 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 4: played school ball. And a lot of it was because 243 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 4: I was such a late bloomer, Like physically, I could 244 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 4: not keep up. And you know, AAU like your fast 245 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 4: show as tall as you're probably gonna shine, you know, 246 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 4: the skilled guy isn't really necessarily highlighted like that at 247 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 4: that level, and so it wasn't doing me any good 248 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 4: to get out there and just get bulldoze every game 249 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 4: those three years. You know, I got to work on 250 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 4: my game for what I knew in high school, like 251 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 4: I do push up, sit up, try to get a 252 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 4: little stronger. But it wasn't you know, nature was taken over. 253 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 4: So once I got to seventeen, started playing AU travel 254 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 4: circus all that you started side yourself up against you know, 255 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 4: the top that's where the rankings. For me, like that 256 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 4: was such a big deal because I wasn't ranked at all, 257 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 4: and I was like, what can I do to get 258 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 4: to at least like, you know, top fifty in my 259 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 4: state to start there and work your way up, so 260 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 4: you play against the best the best. And I was 261 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 4: a turnover machine, Like I could shoot, I could score 262 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 4: and all that, but I just couldnt, you know, manage 263 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 4: the game. I was a competitor, like I wasn't gonna 264 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 4: back down, but it just didn't click. Senior year, we 265 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 4: went to a high school tournament in Columbia, South Carolina's 266 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 4: a Chick fil A class and we played the school 267 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 4: called Dumbwoodie from Georgia and they had like Ganni La Wall, 268 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 4: Jodie Meeks, some top prospects, and we made it to championship. 269 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 4: We played against them, and everybody was talking about were 270 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 4: overmatched like this and that, and I remember playing in 271 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 4: that game and just kind of coming into my own 272 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 4: from a confidence standpoint, from physicality standpoint, just knowing what 273 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 4: I was trying to do on the court, the run 274 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 4: on a team man score and we got to win. 275 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 4: And like, from that moment on, I was like, you know, 276 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 4: these are the guys I'm gonna be playing against on 277 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 4: the next level, regardless of where I'm at. And obviously 278 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 4: choosing Davidson in a small division on school, like I 279 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 4: can play with the best, and the best took that 280 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 4: confidence and ran with it. So it helped to be 281 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 4: able to play my way through some of those mistakes 282 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 4: and those learning curves. Even when I got to college, 283 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 4: like my refreshman year, I got to play right away 284 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 4: and had thirteen turnovers in my first my first game, 285 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 4: Like I had to work through all of that and 286 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 4: not lose confidence in myself, and you know, I got 287 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 4: to pay, you know, reap the benefits of that later. 288 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: I was there to just be in college and you know, 289 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: going through all that and having a coach that believed 290 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: in you, believe that you can do what you know 291 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: you can do what you're doing now. 292 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 4: There is belief, but it's also the tough love we 293 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 4: all had co just that you know. 294 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 3: That's wrong on thirteen turnover? Was what was that talk? Like? 295 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 4: Like it was just a lot of yelling, a lot 296 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 4: of hearing my name and all that. But I'm thankful 297 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 4: because I wanted it so bad that I was cool 298 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 4: like accepting being coached, Like I knew I didn't know 299 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 4: at all. I knew I had a lot to learn 300 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 4: and a lot of room to grow, but I was 301 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 4: okay with getting coach. No matter how tough it was, 302 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 4: no matter how embarrassing it was. And I'm thankful that 303 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 4: I accepted that early so that I could kind of 304 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 4: go through those lumps and not lose confidence in myself 305 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 4: because you have a coach that believes in you. It's 306 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 4: one thing, and they're going to try to set you 307 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 4: up for success, but you got to walk into that 308 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 4: and you got to you know, make them, you know, 309 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 4: look like they know what they're talking about, no matter 310 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 4: how hard it is, and or you can cower away 311 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 4: from it and you know, give into you know, the 312 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 4: deficity like what you can't do on the floor, the 313 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 4: other failures that you have and all that type of stuff. 314 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 4: And so obviously you just saiding them. But I'm thankful. 315 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 4: That's why I tell everybody, you know, be open to 316 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 4: being coached, because you know, it's the only way you 317 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 4: get to your full potential. It's the only way you're 318 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 4: gonna get exposed to where you know, you can like 319 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 4: look at yourself in the minor say this is why 320 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 4: I need to work on. This is the you know, 321 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 4: the strides that I can take to get to where 322 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 4: I want to be and kind of roll with that mindset. 323 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 5: Man if it was ever anybody for kids out there 324 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 5: are listening to, like you are the prototype. You know 325 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 5: what I'm saying, late blooming like you say, didn't have 326 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 5: the confidence up until your senior year. Because it's a lot, 327 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 5: like you say, especially now, way more than when we 328 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 5: were coming up. 329 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 3: Like these kids now. 330 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 5: Start getting ranked in fourth and fifth grade, it's like 331 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 5: they might not play basketball by time they get grade. 332 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 5: Like what are you ranking? It's like they legit got 333 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 5: fourth grade. Like I saw a first when they had 334 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 5: Devin and all them. 335 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 3: I'm like this, they like what rankings. 336 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 5: So it's like, you know what I'm saying, for you 337 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 5: to be all of those things, not feeling like you're 338 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 5: good enough, but then you work and you become literally 339 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 5: the greatest shooter ever. 340 00:15:58,440 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 341 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 5: They want MVP, these championships, all types of awards at 342 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 5: the top level of basketball period. So like you the 343 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 5: prototype for people to see like you on your own pace, 344 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 5: it ain't what everybody else wanted to be. Sometimes it 345 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 5: don't work like that. Like I say that about you know, 346 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 5: we talking about our kids and stuff. People want these 347 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 5: kids to do that. I say, man, everybody gonna do 348 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 5: everything when they're supposed to. We just have to be 349 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 5: there to accept and support them. 350 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: Sometimes guys rush their contract because it'll be a guy 351 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: that be with them, and they see that guy kind 352 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: of getting ahead on this year's he made the All 353 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: Star team. Love, they get themselves in the rush and 354 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: instead of going by their own pace. 355 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 4: So put that on like steroids. What these kids are 356 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 4: going through now, yeah, said the earliest ages when they 357 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 4: even play organized basketball. They're getting ranked and getting compared, 358 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 4: and you got to own your journey, Like you know, 359 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 4: God gives you words for you and you got to 360 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 4: walk in that. And for me, like I didn't know 361 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 4: at the time, but like that was just a perspective 362 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 4: because I love the game so much and even like 363 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 4: getting to my into the league where you start looking 364 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 4: at whatever, like you said, what other people's playing times with, 365 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 4: the what kind of money they getting, all that stuff, 366 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,959 Speaker 4: Like that's you're all human. We know it's hard to 367 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 4: not observe and notice that stuff. But what's really important 368 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 4: making sure your priorities are straight and making sure you 369 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 4: know what journey you on, what pays you on, Like 370 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 4: you said, like try to tell all the rookies coming 371 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 4: in right now, especially because everything is so exposed and 372 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 4: everything is so hyped, and everything is just on blasts 373 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 4: like have Instagram when I was a rookie in the league. 374 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 5: It's crazy, I tell people all the time. For me 375 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 5: and him, it's kind of like like they talk about 376 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,479 Speaker 5: man if y'all was on social media. Y'all have been there, 377 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 5: y'all have been. 378 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:40,719 Speaker 3: That kind of goes both ways. 379 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 5: I mean, I can see a lot of time but 380 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 5: like we look, I mean, I feel like we probably 381 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 5: would have been way more known, but it might have 382 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 5: not been always for all the right reasons we got. 383 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 5: We got to make a lot of mistakes. Y'all generation 384 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 5: can't make as soon as y'all do it. It's it's 385 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 5: out there, like you know what I'm saying, Like somebody. 386 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 3: Practice the whole. 387 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 4: A couple of black screens with the white fun like yeah. 388 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 3: We have like you know, like camera phones was just 389 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 3: they haven't even really hit the color on the phone. 390 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 3: We look like digital screen. 391 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 2: We had two had a limit on numbers you can 392 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 2: put in the phone. And let me ask you this. 393 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: In college, you know now you got your groove, you 394 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: and your coach you hear and you know it's it's 395 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: buckets every night. 396 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 2: And you know, Davidson. 397 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: Ain't playing in a conference where they playing a top 398 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: on the big time conference. So now you got them 399 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: few games on your schedule that oh this might be 400 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: a ranked team or they might not be ranked, but 401 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: it's just a big name team. 402 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 2: How competitive and how ready you was. 403 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: For them games, because it's saying like every time you 404 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: played a game that it might be a potential you 405 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: can be on TV or ESPN. 406 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I appreciate my experience even more. Like 407 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 4: kind of similar we're talking about. I was kind of 408 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 4: off the map, off the radar while I was working 409 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 4: on my game. And so like you know, my freshman year, 410 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 4: we weren't ranked at all, we weren't even close, played 411 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 4: a solid non conference schedule or early. But then we 412 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 4: went through our conference and we were undefeated and we 413 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 4: lost one game in conference my freshman year and that's 414 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 4: when the buzz started. Then that parlayed into my sophomore 415 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 4: year where we had I think eight games in our 416 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 4: non conference schedule. We played Carolina, n C State, Duke, 417 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 4: u C l A, U n C State, and we 418 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 4: played all those teams early because we knew we were 419 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 4: good and we knew we needed to get tested early 420 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 4: to figure out who we were and get exposed a 421 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 4: little bit because we only think we lost all those games. 422 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 4: But then you get to you get prepared if we 423 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 4: get through conference and do what we need to do 424 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 4: and get to the tournament, Like that's that's our time 425 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 4: to show, you know, people what we're really about. And 426 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 4: that's exactly what the formula was and that's how it worked. 427 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 4: But to your question, like, I loved every bit of 428 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 4: that because it goes back to you know, I was 429 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 4: playing you like I knew who those guys that were 430 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 4: in my class and you know that got those high 431 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 4: D one offers, and I knew I could compete with them, 432 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 4: and so can our team if we figure out, you know, 433 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 4: have confidence and who we are even though. 434 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 3: We didn't win. 435 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 4: Like, I love that that environment. I love that stage, 436 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 4: and uh, they prepared me for that tournament run, which 437 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 4: was you know, it was insane for us to get 438 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 4: one shot away from the final four and lose to 439 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 4: the eventual champs in Kansas, And that's when it became 440 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 4: a show, and that's when it became a good prep 441 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 4: for the next love in the league because everywhere we 442 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 4: went that my junior year. It was it was packed 443 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 4: to the to the nosebleeds and was it. 444 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 5: Was to know that you started, you know where you started, 445 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 5: and then you got it and you still like you 446 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 5: here you had Davis and you know it. You know 447 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 5: what I'm saying, you know do because I can remember 448 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 5: when I like, like you say, when you first go 449 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 5: to the map, everybody like we watching, like, man, you 450 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 5: gotta check them out. 451 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 3: You getting like why you David? Like how do like 452 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 3: who missed out? Like what happened? Has he had David? 453 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 3: So many people gotta get fired. We didn't see this. 454 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 4: I loved it because it was a nice balance of 455 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 4: like nothing nothing really changed. Back on we had eighteen 456 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 4: hundred students of campus and so like you know everybody, 457 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 4: we know everybody that was a high school. So you 458 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 4: go play run the tournament. You know, Uh, we beat 459 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 4: Gonzaga and Georgetown in the first two rounds. Then we 460 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 4: get back to campus and it's like like there's a celebration, 461 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 4: but people got class on Monday, and it's like you know, 462 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 4: and so do we. So we show up and nothing 463 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 4: really changes. So it gave us a nice perspective of 464 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 4: you know, Let's keep the main thing the main thing. 465 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 4: Let's keep you know, enjoying this moment. But you know, 466 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 4: we still have our culture here. That's that's freaking dope 467 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 4: and represented to the fullest on the biggest of stages. 468 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 4: So I enjoyed it. 469 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 5: Take me back to the to the actual to your 470 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 5: draft night, right, because that's like all of our you know, 471 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 5: biggest day ever up to that point. How did you feel, 472 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like, now this is your 473 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 5: dad and your family and everybody coming to you for 474 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 5: your big night, and this is now you taking the 475 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 5: family business to the next level when it's your turn, Like, 476 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 5: tell me what that feel like? After you know you've 477 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 5: been in Toronto, Charlie, you following your dead's the point 478 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 5: are dead? Now it's his turn to start doing that 479 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 5: for you. It was surreal. And I said that because. 480 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 4: When you're so close to it for your whole life, 481 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 4: right like you said, you see it through his eyes, 482 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 4: and when it's you, when it's you, it didn't even 483 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 4: make sense, Like I know, i'ven't worked with my whole 484 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 4: life for this moment, but it didn't make sense like 485 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 4: it was happening and that night was going to be 486 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 4: the celebration of like him passing the torch to me 487 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 4: to start my own career, mo own journey. That was 488 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 4: one of his biggest pieces of ice, is like, you know, 489 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 4: you're gonna get compared and you're gonna have the shadow 490 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 4: and all that stuff, but you have to just live 491 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 4: in your own, your own journey and whatever that means, 492 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 4: like embrace it. And that night was the start of it. 493 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 4: It was an emotional night though it was his birthday 494 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 4: night Michael Jackson died, so it was like all that 495 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 4: was happening, I was getting It was just a whole 496 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 4: lot going on. And then you know, got drafted by 497 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 4: the Warriors and all the nick fans start booing because 498 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 4: they wanted me to drop the number eight. So I 499 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 4: had a lot of emotions going on at night, but 500 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 4: I just appreciated like the fact that I was able 501 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 4: to you know, realize a dream obviously and start your career. 502 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 4: I didn't know much about the Bay, but I was 503 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 4: ready to ready to go out there and figure it out. 504 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 5: So with that being said, right, we all know, like quietly, 505 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 5: when this process is going on, we have our places 506 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 5: that we would I mean, we know we can't control it, but. 507 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 3: Like, hey, I would like to play there or whatever room. 508 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 3: He was kind I wanted to go to hous to 509 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 3: me and you want to go used to definitely. 510 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 5: Let them get so we won't do that. We want 511 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 5: to work out like we go play with franchise whatever. 512 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 3: Right. 513 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 5: So for you you say you want to play for 514 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 5: the Knicks, like, how did you feel when when when 515 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 5: when everything went down? 516 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 3: When you got your name? 517 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 4: The draft processes as wild, like there's some new narrative 518 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 4: every day, there's some new guarantee on the draft board, 519 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 4: there's some trade rooms like every day it was something different. 520 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 4: But through that whole process, like I talked to Mike 521 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 4: D'Antoni who was the coach, and the next the time 522 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 4: they had Gallinari who is the young prospect, and the 523 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 4: whole conversations like oh put you you know gone all 524 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 4: David Lee was there. I was going to be exact 525 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 4: that would be, that would be the vibe, like you 526 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 4: D'Antonio puts you in all the right positions. I could 527 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 4: be like sorry, I could be like Nash two point 528 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 4: oh when was in Phoenix and all that type of stuff. 529 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 4: So that was a conversation and in New York added 530 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 4: to it because you already know you got you right. 531 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 4: I was sitting there and Blake goes one, seemed to 532 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 4: beat James Harden, Tyreek Evans, and then it's number five 533 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 4: and Minnesota's got the two picks in a row. So 534 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 4: I just get through these two. They got two picks 535 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 4: and roll and then it's guarantee, like I don't really know. 536 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 4: I talked to go in state like that it's gonna 537 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 4: be under eight. So they went Rubio and Johnny Flynn 538 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 4: and vice versa, and so I'm like, all right, this 539 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 4: is it. The next five minutes felt like an eternity 540 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 4: because you wait, like the clock in the green room 541 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 4: and all that, and then David Stern came out said 542 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 4: my name, and it didn't like I heard my name, 543 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 4: but it was like I ain't even talk to them. 544 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 3: It always be a team that you did, you work out. 545 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 5: For them, and we were trying to avoid them. We're 546 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 5: trying to like, wait, they gonna pick us like they 547 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 5: want to see were trying to go there. Man, it's 548 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 5: always be the team's repeat itself. 549 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 4: It's crazy. But then after that you're just trying to 550 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 4: make sense of it on the fly because it was 551 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 4: just like. 552 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 5: To that world wind medium in the back about forty 553 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 5: five hours. 554 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 4: On the next flight, next morning, out to the baby. 555 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 4: But that's a definite lesson and careful what you wish for. 556 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: When you got drafted, they had a guard that was 557 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: a bucket getter already there the homie mind. Tell yellers like, 558 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: what are some of the things you learned from him 559 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: when you got to the league, because he was one 560 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: of them boys we got to the league getting them buckets. 561 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 4: He was. He was my just on a funny tip, 562 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 4: he was my favorite, like one liner dude, real quiet, 563 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 4: but you real quiet shot around. He'd be a little stiff, 564 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 4: a little, a little, a little slow to get going 565 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 4: and somebody calling him, I tell you you're gonna run 566 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 4: this play. He got popcorn popping. 567 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 3: Do you. 568 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 4: You want to? 569 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:11,479 Speaker 5: Now? 570 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 3: You want to? 571 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 4: You want to? 572 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 3: Now you want to? 573 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 4: That's my favorite line, so I still use that to 574 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 4: this day. He was like his athleticism is just the 575 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 4: way that he, you know, just put pressure on defenses. 576 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 4: It was just unreal, like you look up and he 577 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 4: had like the quietest forty of all times, just because 578 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 4: it was all just downhill, blow by you finishes all 579 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 4: over the place, sneaky pull up, you know, dunk on somebody, 580 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 4: but like nobody could stay in front of him, and 581 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 4: it was it was it was a cool thing to see, 582 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,719 Speaker 4: like the speed of the NBA, like watching playing with 583 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 4: him and watching him because I didn't have athleticism and 584 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 4: I was like just in awe of he could get 585 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 4: anywhere he wanted to on the floor, and just his 586 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 4: confidence in himself, Like it was I didn't know much 587 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 4: about that. We believe there and like him being the 588 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 4: young guy on that team, yeah six man, you know, 589 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 4: and all that, and the most improved and being a 590 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 4: huge part of that team success work and worked like 591 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 4: coming out of high school and all. So when I 592 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 4: got there, he was the VET at like twenty four 593 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 4: to twenty five, and you know he had to come 594 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 4: into that responsibility really quick, and playing off of him 595 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 4: those first years, like we didn't really know who we 596 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 4: were as a backcourt and our identity because you know, 597 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 4: it was kind of a period of transition. But in 598 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 4: terms of like enjoying playing basketball and at that stage 599 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 4: and seeing somebody's talent that's totally separate or different the 600 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 4: way that I play, Like it was it was dope. 601 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: You can go to a lot of NBA teams, but 602 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: it seemed like the Warriors was fit for you. 603 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 604 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:55,959 Speaker 1: Don Nelson is one of them guys that kind of 605 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: started for really as the guy father, starting of like, man, 606 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: we're from the run and and we're finn run it up. 607 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: So if y'all ain't gonna scos, y'all ain't gonna keep up. 608 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: And that's just like the perfect recipe for your your 609 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: game and the way you play. To get in the 610 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: organization like that and be there with people who believe 611 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: in that type of style of play. 612 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 3: How was that for you? It was good. 613 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 4: I knew Don Nelson in his style and when I 614 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 4: got there, uh CJ. Watson and Anthony Morrow, we're the 615 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 4: two young guys that have made the team from the 616 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 4: year before. They went through the shoes, you know exactly. 617 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 4: And they told me like when I first got, you know, 618 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 4: to camp, like y'all you're gonna love this system because 619 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 4: it's all about just playing fast. Everybody's gonna get a look. 620 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 3: You know. 621 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 4: He wants you to know to score, be aggressive offensively. 622 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 4: And you know they weren't lying like in the training camp. 623 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 4: We may have done one defensive drill, just roll the 624 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 4: ball out, you know, scrimmage. He would call out sets, 625 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 4: we run him and he was all about like matchups too, 626 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 4: So it's kind of cool like night and night out. 627 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 4: You go down and you go at whoever. And he 628 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 4: tried to you know, push press the right buttons on 629 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 4: that front. So it expanded my offensive like horizon really quickly, 630 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 4: because once I really started at the beginning of my 631 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 4: rookie year, got pulled out the rotation for about a 632 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 4: month and I got back in. And once I got 633 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 4: back in, like I kind of just hit a hit 634 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 4: a period of just another level of offensive like efficiency 635 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 4: and just coming to my own conference wise of what 636 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 4: I could do, and everybody, like everybody was a threat, 637 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 4: like kicking the you shoot, kick back, shoot, let's play fast. 638 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 4: The only thing was like we changed defenses every night. 639 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 4: You know, we know what our identity was, and it 640 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 4: was it was just cool. I got a little bit 641 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 4: of every experience my rookie year. It was sad as 642 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 4: that that was his last year coaching. We were chasing 643 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 4: the wins for him to pass Lenny Wilkins right here, 644 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 4: so it was weird, like we think we won, like 645 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 4: twenty three five games or something like that. But every 646 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 4: game felt like important because it's about getting him win. 647 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 4: Before it was that had a little bit of an 648 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 4: intensity to it. I gave us something to play for. 649 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: When you first got into league. Was like me, I was, 650 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: I'm six nine and I was a buck nightey. 651 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 652 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: I wasn't even too under found when I got drafted. 653 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: And you know, Skinny kid, and you know it's a 654 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: physical game out there. But when I seen you all, 655 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: you know you always signed somebody up when as soon 656 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: as you see them you instantly sized them up and 657 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: see her there. 658 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 2: But I noticed it on TV. 659 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: But when I seen you in person, I was like, yeah, 660 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: that's I'm seeing your arms, your physique, How you change 661 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: when you decided to go to the weight room and 662 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: go to the weight room heavy because you know us, 663 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: skinny guy, we'll go to the weight room, but we ain't. 664 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 5: You don't go to we went to the weight room. 665 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 3: He become m THEO came. 666 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: Nothing to hop on these arms, you know what I'm saying. 667 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: But then you see that one, that one something when 668 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: you come back. 669 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 2: And your whole physique change. 670 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: And I've seen it in you and your strength, and 671 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: I know, I know is just now when you be 672 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: running off screens and stuff, you're a little bit more 673 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: stronger for them to they can't hold. 674 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 3: You no more. Absolutely. 675 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 4: As part of that was a reaction to like how 676 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 4: defenses were regarding me and the physicality of the league. 677 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 4: That adjustment from colleges, it's a shock. The biggest thing was, 678 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 4: like I knew I could shoot the ball, and I 679 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 4: knew I was kind of like finess was a part 680 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 4: of my game, and I could, you know, get away 681 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 4: with it for only so long. But when we started 682 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 4: getting to the playoffs and you realize how much the 683 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 4: game changes at that point, everything slows down, becomes more 684 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 4: of a half court game. There's fewer possessions, you know, 685 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 4: it's way more physical, less foul calls, all that stuff. 686 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 4: That's when I realized how much of an advantage it 687 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 4: would be for me to get a little stronger, not 688 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 4: assary like gain weight, but just be able to hold 689 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 4: my own. If I'm driving to lane, somebody knocked me, 690 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 4: I'm not just you know, falling over or you know, 691 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 4: you get double team, being to pass at all type 692 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 4: of stuff. The biggest thing was when I got down 693 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 4: into the lane, like I could not make that pass. 694 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 3: Three point. 695 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 4: I could couldn't get out there balls here. I couldn't 696 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 4: get in here and throw it over there. That's where 697 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 4: you know, you know, some of the deficiencies were so balancing, 698 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 4: like being strong, work on your care, all that stuff 699 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 4: that helps you, uh, you know, get through an a 700 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 4: two game season, get through the playoffs, and all that 701 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 4: just added to that foundation. 702 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: I feel like once I got stronger and I really 703 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: took the weight room serious, it was like I got 704 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: new superpowers. 705 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 4: Straight up, like from games, games too, you don't get 706 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 4: as tired like. 707 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: You got new super powers when you when you just 708 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: kind of add someone to your package. Like y'all first 709 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: championship run, like a lot of people didn't have y'all 710 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: like winning it, and not only the hey y'all winning it. 711 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: As soon as y'all got to the championship against Lebron, 712 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: it's like, oh no, ain't no way in. 713 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 2: Here, like just just take us through that. Just that 714 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 2: year when like everything just clicked. 715 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 4: I mean like it did the first year two years before, 716 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 4: when we first made the playoffs in twenty thirteen played 717 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 4: we beat Denver as a sixth seed and we lost 718 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 4: to San Antonio and six, And the next year we 719 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 4: lost to the Clippers in seven in the first round. 720 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 4: Everything had been been building in terms of, you know, 721 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 4: understanding who we were, what we needed to tweak a 722 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 4: little bit to take that next step. It was bittersweet 723 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 4: all the way around. Because I make sure I talk 724 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 4: about it every time we talk about that championship. Is 725 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 4: because those three years before with Mark Jackson as our coach, 726 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 4: right was so like valuable and instrumental to our success 727 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 4: because he established like a defensive mindset and like an 728 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 4: attitude and identity around us that when he passed the 729 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 4: torch off, I'll say that politely to Steve. Steve brought 730 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 4: another level of like an outside of perspective having watched 731 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 4: us for three years and his championship experience playing for Field, 732 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 4: playing for Popovich, playing with you know, MJ and Tim 733 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 4: Duncan to help us get there. And everybody's going to 734 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 4: talk about, like any championship team, what had to go 735 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 4: right for you to win a championship, no matter what 736 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 4: year it is, But all those things like you have 737 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 4: to be able to put yourself in position too for 738 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 4: the ball to bounce your way for you to you know, 739 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 4: even have an opportunity, uh in those series, to be 740 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 4: a serious threat, you know, to beat anybody in the league. 741 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 4: And that was a confidence that we had. So you know, 742 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 4: going through that that playoff run, nothing felt out of 743 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 4: the ordinary. But you also don't know what it takes 744 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 4: until you finally get right that that Game six in 745 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 4: Cleveland was just like an out of body experience because 746 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 4: you're trying to keep things normal. You're trying to you know, 747 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 4: not do anything, trying to win, you know, and everything 748 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 4: that goes right, you're like, oh, shoot, oh, oh, she 749 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 4: was about to win this thing, like it's a natural 750 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 4: of just progression of getting to the mountain top. So 751 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 4: that team was special too, Like one through fifteen, we 752 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 4: had a great mixture of a young core, some amazing 753 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 4: veterans that have been around the league for. 754 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 3: A while, and boys over there. 755 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 5: You know it's got But this is what I want 756 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 5: to know, like because like I felt like this even 757 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,240 Speaker 5: though we didn't win it when we were in Phoenix 758 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 5: and you know, like you say, out of nowhere, we 759 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 5: were expected to be the last place in the Pacific. 760 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 5: So but like you get to that certain point in 761 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,439 Speaker 5: the season where you know, you guys in the locker room, 762 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 5: y'all start looking around each other like wait a minute, 763 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 5: like it's like, is this this shit kind of was 764 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 5: doing this like and you know, like so like so 765 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:42,919 Speaker 5: like you know, that year we jumped out one seas 766 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,320 Speaker 5: two and twenty, it was a lot of back and 767 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 5: forth like they and it was like and it was 768 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 5: like at first we was like can we like and 769 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 5: then it was like every time you look up, we 770 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 5: icing with eight minutes to go, we blowing people up. 771 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 5: So like at a certain point, like three quarters through 772 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 5: the season, after we had them came out of all 773 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 5: start and we smoking people and everybody, I don't know 774 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 5: what's happening. We started to looking at each other like, fellas, 775 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 5: like this is real, this might be official. 776 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:09,399 Speaker 3: So at what point? 777 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 4: To get to that point, you have to be so 778 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 4: locked in on the day to day that you can't 779 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 4: really you can let your mind drift a little bit, right, 780 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 4: but April may June so far away, like even where 781 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 4: we're saying right now, it's you know, we have forty 782 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 4: some games, so much model play exactly, Like like you said, 783 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 4: like you're so locked into that day to day to 784 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,439 Speaker 4: win sixty two games in the season, Like that's hard, 785 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 4: and with the effort and the commitment and focus it 786 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 4: takes like you can't even allow yourself to think, like, oh, 787 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 4: what's a playoff matchup? 788 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 3: What to be? 789 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 4: Like what's that that time of the season. But everything 790 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 4: matters to get there. So it's dope to like to 791 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 4: hear that because you know, like even if you get 792 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 4: it done and you don't, the process is still the same, yea. 793 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 4: And you start to look at other teams in the league, 794 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 4: like who's the other best? All we match up? Nice? 795 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 2: Cool? 796 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:57,919 Speaker 4: Like all we beat them in the regular season. 797 00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 2: Cool. 798 00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 4: It don't mean nothing until you get to the playoffs 799 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 4: and and go through that. 800 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 3: So could you have foreseen. 801 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 5: Having that type of season and that type of success 802 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 5: when you was going through the ankle injuries? And like 803 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 5: take us inside of that, because like we he' been 804 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 5: through injuries. I've been through injuries and that people don't 805 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 5: understand how hard that is to overcome and like for 806 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 5: you to overcome that to the level that you have, 807 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 5: because like you know, that was when like you obviously 808 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 5: didn't get a big deal because of that, Like you 809 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like that those things affected everything, 810 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 5: so and people don't know that us as humans, the 811 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 5: human part of us as an athlete, we doubt and 812 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 5: we questioned ourselves, especially when something happens over and over again. 813 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 4: Straight up, the one refreshing part of seeing Clay go 814 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 4: through what he went through these last two and a 815 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 4: half years is the reminder of, like, we all have 816 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 4: to work hard. All seasons are grind, you know, practices, travel, 817 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 4: like all the the stresses of being a professional athlete. 818 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 4: Rehab is the hardest thing I've ever done in my 819 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 4: entire life, bar none, two three times amount of time 820 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,800 Speaker 4: that you put in, it's monotonous. You're usually isolated, like 821 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,800 Speaker 4: it's just you wasting your team. Like that is the 822 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 4: hardest thing to deal with. So everything you just said, 823 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 4: like all you want to do is just play like 824 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 4: you don't really care what the context is. I just 825 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 4: want to be healthy enough to play basketball and what 826 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 4: it takes to get through injuries no matter what they are, 827 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 4: they test you, they test everything, how much the game 828 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 4: matters your perseverance and all that type of stuff. So 829 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 4: when I was going through my angle stuff like no, 830 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 4: I couldn't even you know, imagine the hest that we 831 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,800 Speaker 4: would get to because I was just going to the 832 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 4: rehab facility every day, seeing the same you know crew 833 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 4: who is so invested in my process, But I couldn't 834 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 4: see the light at the end of the tunnel. And 835 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 4: obviously it paid off, but it's it's one of it. 836 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 4: It is the hardest thing you have to go through 837 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 4: as an athlete, no matter what the injury is. 838 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 1: How was it playing against and they almost finna beat 839 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: you the year before? And then that first game with 840 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 1: you Clay KD and y'all standing for a jump ball, like, Oh, 841 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,879 Speaker 1: for the fuck, somebody up this year? 842 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 3: N he actually is here. It's gonna go down, Like, 843 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:22,800 Speaker 3: how was that? We chie like that play with that 844 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,479 Speaker 3: look when y'all got on side. 845 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,879 Speaker 5: Play the video game, I hold on, I'm just say 846 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 5: not appreciating this one actually counts if you get the 847 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:32,280 Speaker 5: words on video. 848 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 3: Games to get who playing. 849 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 4: I know, I forget we played that first Roar season 850 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 4: game because I had that moment and you're like looking 851 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 4: around like, oh my god. There's also there's also like 852 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,839 Speaker 4: I might have just internal just as the point guard 853 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 4: and like the guy that felt like I had to 854 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 4: get everybody involved. There's a little insecurity, like there's so 855 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 4: much talent. It's just's gonna work because I'm like, all right, 856 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,879 Speaker 4: I'm starting to count shots, like, all right, he's gonna 857 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 4: get twenty, he's gonna get all right, said, all right, 858 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 4: where how are we gonna do this? So those starts 859 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 4: starting to creep in early in the process. 860 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 3: And if you think, if you look back. 861 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 4: That first year game one through, like Christmas Day game, 862 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,479 Speaker 4: it was not pretty like we were figuring all type 863 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:18,320 Speaker 4: of inconsistent. Our record was solid, but it just didn't 864 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:23,320 Speaker 4: look a lot of that. You know, I assumed a 865 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,239 Speaker 4: lot of that responsibility and Draymond as well, like trying 866 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 4: to figure out how to to make a mess because you're, like, 867 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 4: you're in theory you shouldn't have to worry about Steph 868 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,839 Speaker 4: Clay or Katie getting shots like that shouldn't be an issue, 869 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 4: and shouldn't worry about Draymond being able to facilitate a 870 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 4: lot of that. But it wasn't as seamless as as 871 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 4: people might think. And then he got hurt right after 872 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 4: All Star break and Matt Barnes joined the team, and 873 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 4: from that point, like kat was rehabbing, trying to get 874 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 4: ready for the playoffs, and we kind of had to 875 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 4: revert back to the year before and how we played, 876 00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 4: and then knowing that everything was going to change again 877 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 4: when Katie got back right before the playoffs started, So 878 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,320 Speaker 4: it was just a lot of stuff going on, but 879 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 4: we knew, like the talent was there obviously, and you know, 880 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 4: if we show up and do what we're supposed to do, 881 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 4: everybody locked in like we should not lose. But it 882 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 4: was also six seven months of that. Every day you're 883 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 4: trying to make sure it works because if you don't, 884 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 4: you're gonna look like some idiots. But I figet out. 885 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,320 Speaker 1: Seeing him just like, you know, he's one of the 886 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 1: best players and he's in the same you know category 887 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 1: as you and Lebron and all these other guys. 888 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 2: But to see it in person. 889 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 4: All respect in the world to how great all time 890 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 4: great score he is, like he gets it any in 891 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 4: every type of way, and you see it on the court, 892 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,879 Speaker 4: and like you try to compliment each other extremely well 893 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 4: in terms of how we were trying to win games. 894 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 4: The best part about it was practice because me and 895 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,360 Speaker 4: him and Clay like trying to work on our craft. 896 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,959 Speaker 4: Sometimes we work together, sometimes we be on our separate course, 897 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 4: but we always be watching each other and you always 898 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,440 Speaker 4: be like trying to like want up, level up the intensity, 899 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 4: level up the approach to the game. And like that's 900 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 4: such a dope environment to come to work every day 901 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 4: because you got Klay Thompson, Kevin Durant myself, like we 902 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 4: all put ourselves in like a great score category. Like 903 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 4: you get to watch the work that goes into it 904 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,279 Speaker 4: every day and haven't seen Kay, Like I've seen Klay 905 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 4: for ten years, but to see Kad and his approach 906 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 4: on the day to day, like I see the results, 907 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 4: I know like the work that he puts in, but 908 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 4: to see it, it's different. And that elevated all of us, 909 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:32,919 Speaker 4: That's what he was saying. 910 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 5: We asked him about that when we had them one 911 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 5: he was like, dude, to just watch the way that 912 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 5: these dudes could shoot every like every single day. He 913 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 5: was like, that made me feel like like yo, like 914 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 5: when you in the gym and you got two dudes 915 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 5: that can shoot the way y'all could shoot. He like, bro, 916 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 5: I had to like like they made me become a 917 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 5: better shooter. Just trying to keep pace, Like if we're 918 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 5: doing any drills or this or that, y'all ain't missing. 919 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 4: He like he came in when you were going up. 920 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 4: You wanted to find the best in your city, the 921 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 4: best wherever to go, find the best games because you 922 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 4: knew like that was gonna elevate. You couldn't just live off, 923 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 4: you know, the crumbs of the competition, like you actually 924 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 4: got to go find the best because that's gonna sharpen 925 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 4: your tool. Kid even more, did you know Clay before 926 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 4: he got to know it? So Clay new seth before 927 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 4: they were on the same U nineteen team and they 928 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,800 Speaker 4: went to Think New Zealand and they won gold. I 929 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 4: knew a little bit about Clay through him, and then 930 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,360 Speaker 4: he got drafted. That was the first time I actually 931 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,280 Speaker 4: met him when it came out to the bay the other. 932 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 1: Night, just to see Clay come out and he got 933 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 1: him a body or two. You know, you finished that 934 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: height what you like? 935 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:43,399 Speaker 3: Man? 936 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,840 Speaker 4: I didn't see him come down because we talked about this. 937 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 4: He been out for nine hundred and seventy something days, 938 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,439 Speaker 4: two and a half years, and he had talked about 939 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:53,880 Speaker 4: He's like I can still we all know I can 940 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,400 Speaker 4: still shoot him, Like yeah, I'm gonna figure out how 941 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,839 Speaker 4: to move get off the dribble stuff like yeah, I'm 942 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,959 Speaker 4: sure that'll come. He's like, the last thing is gonna 943 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,800 Speaker 4: come is meeting people at the round, you know, getting 944 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 4: to get a couple of bodies and like, yeah, don't 945 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 4: don't press yourself and stay within yourself. Like took that 946 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 4: man nine minutes and he was crossing over going to 947 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,800 Speaker 4: the lane and he dunked it. Like I lost it. 948 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 4: I was, it's going crazy everybody. But then I saw 949 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 4: the replay again and you see him dunk and come down. 950 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 4: He got up and he was like, I'm back, So 951 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 4: it's uh, he's just getting to it. 952 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 2: He showed looked like he was going, look he was 953 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:30,439 Speaker 2: getting this together. 954 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 3: Like fuck it. 955 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 4: He looks like that's exactly I'm not here. 956 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 3: I might as well. 957 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 4: It's uh, it's obvious. It's amazing to see him, see 958 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,360 Speaker 4: him back and having back straight. 959 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 1: Up to having him back and all that. And I 960 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 1: thought that was just dope. How Draymond got in the 961 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,840 Speaker 1: game and just to see all guys together, like, man. 962 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 4: That's just ten years and yeah, look that's crazy. 963 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 1: And the fans, man, just the love they give the man. 964 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,279 Speaker 1: That's what he deserves, man, because he wanted them one. 965 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 3: He has become the most interesting man. 966 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 5: And if you like, like if my father was a 967 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 5: person that's claim chilling Captain Clay with his boat the 968 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,880 Speaker 5: dog and reading the newspaper before the game like he 969 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 5: just to and from the Clay Day game that I 970 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 5: told you, man, the man left on his boat, man 971 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,720 Speaker 5: came back on somebodies and then got back on the boat. 972 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 3: That's a boar. 973 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 4: He is unbelievable. 974 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 1: Some of the dopest nicknames come from this game. You know, 975 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 1: you got the Splash Brothers, you got babyface access. You 976 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 1: know which individual one you like the most, and was 977 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 1: it any other thing that you heard that you was like, oh, man, 978 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 1: that might be it. 979 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 2: And then Splash Brothers. 980 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:54,839 Speaker 4: Came Splash Brothers at the top, Babyfaces on individual base. 981 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 4: That's the first one I had heard from myself when 982 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,839 Speaker 4: I was in college, and I that one. That one 983 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,720 Speaker 4: got the nod from code in terms of my killer instinct. 984 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was love. 985 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 4: I've heard the Human Torch before, which was was solid. 986 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 4: Other than that, that's that's the list right there. 987 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,320 Speaker 3: I want to know, did you know Draymond before he 988 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 3: got to the team. 989 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 1: Uh? 990 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 4: No, I went. I met Draymond once before he got 991 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,400 Speaker 4: to the team. Actually, my junior year, I was on 992 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 4: the All American team and I got to go to 993 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,799 Speaker 4: the Final four as part of the ceremony or whatever, 994 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,800 Speaker 4: and I watched him play in the Final four. I 995 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,880 Speaker 4: think that was his freshman year him again until he 996 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,840 Speaker 4: got to the Bay and from that point on, like 997 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,279 Speaker 4: he obviously makes his presence felt no matter what really 998 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,359 Speaker 4: walk into and that was the vibe as soon as 999 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 4: he stepped foot as a rookie out in the Bay. 1000 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,320 Speaker 4: But that's my dog, Like the experiences we've had on 1001 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 4: off the floor, championships he won, and how we're growing 1002 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 4: on off the court, Like it's crazy just to know 1003 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 4: where he came from as a what thirty second gigs 1004 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,279 Speaker 4: and not really no oposition he was going to play 1005 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,280 Speaker 4: a lot of questions. Is like there ain't no questions. 1006 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 1: Now we know, like you can be on the team 1007 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 1: and like on the stat sheet, it don't show the 1008 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 1: impact that you actually brought to the game. And like 1009 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 1: with Draymond, they try to give him a lot of 1010 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 1: people try to not see what they don't see as 1011 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 1: basketball player. We as basketball player see, but let the 1012 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:32,320 Speaker 1: casual fan don't see what he actually brings to the table, 1013 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,320 Speaker 1: Like how important is he is to understand it to 1014 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 1: like over these years of these championships, like his verbal 1015 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 1: his leadership, and you know, we all a little bit crazy, 1016 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,240 Speaker 1: you know, but it's okay. 1017 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 2: You know, as long as you love us the way 1018 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 2: we is, everything is all. 1019 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 5: You won't find no championship team that ain't having somebody because. 1020 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 4: And exactly what with the recipe for a championship roster? 1021 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 4: But yeah, about when not showing up on the stat 1022 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,319 Speaker 4: sheet affected winning. That was a narrati everybody in from 1023 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,440 Speaker 4: day one. And honestly, sometimes it wouldn't show up in 1024 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 4: the stat sheet. He played twelve fifteen, sixteen minutes and 1025 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,840 Speaker 4: he'd have four rebounds and two points and maybe and assists, 1026 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 4: but you would he like you watched the game and 1027 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 4: really present everywhere. Yeah, and he could do that and 1028 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,279 Speaker 4: just spot moments, you know, his rookie year and the 1029 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,320 Speaker 4: second you got a little bit more playing time and 1030 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 4: more opportunity. But now, I guess you could argue his 1031 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 4: stat sheet stat line doesn't look like a printed All Star, 1032 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 4: but you know he's a stat sheet stuff for like 1033 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,880 Speaker 4: he'll have he we always wait for like the Draymonds, 1034 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,759 Speaker 4: the first and however many years to have you know, 1035 00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:42,799 Speaker 4: the created like second categories. 1036 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 3: He you do all that. 1037 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,279 Speaker 1: He ain't a shot blocker, but he's there every time 1038 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,920 Speaker 1: you get beat. Anytime any of them gos get beat, 1039 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 1: he's there every time. And that's not gonna show up 1040 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 1: on nobody's that sheet. Maybe in the field room, but 1041 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:57,719 Speaker 1: if you got a guy that's gonna be there every 1042 00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 1: time you beat. 1043 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 4: Beats as created that offense and like the stuff you 1044 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,800 Speaker 4: try to do, if you take that same approach and 1045 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,960 Speaker 4: you're at it like whatever that means defensively, that's his Draymond. 1046 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,799 Speaker 4: Like he'll he'll see things, he'll make reads, he'll make 1047 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 4: rotations that don't make any sense in the scheme of 1048 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,320 Speaker 4: how you would coach somebody, but he knows where to 1049 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 4: be at the right time, and you wouldn't even ask 1050 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 4: somebody to even try to do it. Like that's how 1051 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 4: crazy it is. Sometimes he'll guard three people in five 1052 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,520 Speaker 4: seconds and affect every single part of their cuts, their 1053 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,360 Speaker 4: moves and like affect the shot at the rim and 1054 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,359 Speaker 4: all that type of stuff. And then your other point 1055 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:34,040 Speaker 4: about leadership and just the competitive you know, fire and 1056 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,439 Speaker 4: the voice in the locker room holding people accountable. That's 1057 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,279 Speaker 4: always been there and it's obviously, you know, gotten more 1058 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 4: experienced and more polished in terms of like how to 1059 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:49,399 Speaker 4: be able to lead guys one through fifteen no matter 1060 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,640 Speaker 4: what part of the season we're in, all knowing that 1061 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 4: everything that we're doing is geared towards winning the championship. 1062 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 4: And Yeah, anybody who knows basketball, anybody who's either played 1063 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,759 Speaker 4: or watch the game or the hell that dude is, 1064 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:03,479 Speaker 4: it's all time great. 1065 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 3: How hard was it to repeat? 1066 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 5: Especially with you know, all the attention that was on 1067 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 5: you guys' team and the way everything came together, Like 1068 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,680 Speaker 5: how difficult was that to manage? 1069 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 4: It's difficult because it makes the regular season just that 1070 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,560 Speaker 4: much harder. When you come off a championship run. You 1071 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 4: go through the off season, everybody's hyping all up, celebrating 1072 00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,480 Speaker 4: all that. You come back to training camp, everybody's excited 1073 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 4: to be back, and then you're like, oh, eighty two 1074 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 4: games before the games that matter, right, but you know, 1075 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,879 Speaker 4: you can't have any slippage on what got you there. 1076 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,680 Speaker 4: And but it's just like it's human nature. It's hard 1077 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,040 Speaker 4: to pace yourself through that eighty two and so that 1078 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 4: I mean, it's difficult, and it requires a lot of 1079 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,280 Speaker 4: adjustments and readjustments throughout the season, a lot of different 1080 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 4: motivational tactics from coach to keep the season fresh and 1081 00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 4: all that type of stuff. And then you get to 1082 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,879 Speaker 4: the play off and that's when you're at your best 1083 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,880 Speaker 4: because you've you've been there before. Especially we had the 1084 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 4: same team back for the most part. That chemistry, it clicks, 1085 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,359 Speaker 4: and so that's why I'm so pressed, Like even though 1086 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 4: we didn't win in sixteen fifteen sixteen, like coming back 1087 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 4: and starting the year off twenty four and oh, it's 1088 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,279 Speaker 4: like one of the craziest accomplishments we have because you 1089 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,320 Speaker 4: have that height from the season, from the off season 1090 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,400 Speaker 4: and all that and the championship glow and like to 1091 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,920 Speaker 4: sustain that focus for as long as we did and 1092 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,799 Speaker 4: you know that and we all know how that season went. 1093 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 4: Like that's pretty impressive. 1094 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 1: Do your on purpose, because I'll be seeing like a 1095 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,920 Speaker 1: lot of guys when they they get to getting in, 1096 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 1: they in, they shit, they get to you know, making 1097 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:50,040 Speaker 1: them tough faces and you know, flexing and all that stuff. 1098 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:54,359 Speaker 1: But you you smile, you smile like it's a thing 1099 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,399 Speaker 1: when you get your ass. But you see the NF 1100 00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,880 Speaker 1: being tough, but like you like he's just smiling and 1101 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,600 Speaker 1: he kicking my hand. Why you chose the approach of smiler? 1102 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,320 Speaker 4: It's my natural like just disposition. I have fun no 1103 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,160 Speaker 4: matter where I'm at, I'm always smiling, joke and laughing. 1104 00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:12,960 Speaker 4: I was talking to Jordan Poole actually today and he 1105 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:14,880 Speaker 4: was he asked me, like, Yo, what's your take on 1106 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 4: on trash talking? I actually thought about it. I was like, 1107 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 4: most of my trash talking is reactive, like if you 1108 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,799 Speaker 4: say something to me, I'll say something back. But I'm 1109 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 4: not out here like Huffy poff and wolfing. But I 1110 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,040 Speaker 4: was like, I'm good for a facial expression or a 1111 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,880 Speaker 4: smaller That's that's my trash talking, like in terms of 1112 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,920 Speaker 4: when I'm feeling good and enjoying myself and I know 1113 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,400 Speaker 4: I did something like that that the smiles gonna come 1114 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 4: out or face. 1115 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:40,560 Speaker 3: I'm on the record. 1116 00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,320 Speaker 5: I'm on the record, whether it's a NBA TV turner 1117 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,000 Speaker 5: is somewhere talking about how I would have been fault 1118 00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:51,239 Speaker 5: him if I had to play him, and responsibility got 1119 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,720 Speaker 5: make all the facial expressions. 1120 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 3: I don't care even like you, you ain't gotta be 1121 00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,800 Speaker 3: doing it at me. If I'm guard when you did it, 1122 00:53:59,200 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 3: I made. 1123 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,719 Speaker 5: I took it that way like personally, no, like I 1124 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 5: don't look around running and doing all this. Then he 1125 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,319 Speaker 5: goes smile and ship me. I'm like, somebody better trip 1126 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,480 Speaker 5: one time, just like damn you just tackling me. Something 1127 00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,960 Speaker 5: gonna happen on my terms. He's doing all this, This 1128 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,520 Speaker 5: is on my terms. He ain't make me foulding that time, 1129 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:24,840 Speaker 5: I decided I was gonna. 1130 00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,920 Speaker 3: Find show true so true. 1131 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:31,240 Speaker 1: One year after y'all play every game, I look forward 1132 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:35,920 Speaker 1: to y'all yo, your press conference because miss Riley what's 1133 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,359 Speaker 1: on the press conference? And it just made my day 1134 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,080 Speaker 1: every time I seen y'all play, and just to see 1135 00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 1: her talking, I'm waiting to see her talk like it's 1136 00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:44,560 Speaker 1: inside the NBA. 1137 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:46,920 Speaker 3: How was that for you? 1138 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:48,840 Speaker 1: And you know I seen your son give Clay the 1139 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,120 Speaker 1: ball at the end of the story, you went through 1140 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,000 Speaker 1: them locker rooms and you'd have been in that playground 1141 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,880 Speaker 1: environment of an NBA arena to bring your kids and 1142 00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,640 Speaker 1: and see your kids enjoying it. 1143 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,800 Speaker 4: It gives me so much's perspective in life just in general, 1144 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 4: because we talked so much about basketball and accolades and 1145 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 4: experiences and the process and all that that is like 1146 00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,560 Speaker 4: so insignificant compared to the joy you see on your kids' 1147 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,920 Speaker 4: face when they get to have an experience. You get 1148 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 4: to share that a little bit of you with them 1149 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,800 Speaker 4: in that environment. And like you said, because I have 1150 00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,520 Speaker 4: videos of like monkey boats, carry me like an airplane 1151 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,359 Speaker 4: through the hornet locker room when I was like four 1152 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,719 Speaker 4: or five, and you know, sitting on Zoe's lap at 1153 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,759 Speaker 4: three point contests, like those type of experiences that I 1154 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,160 Speaker 4: don't necessarily remember, but I know like that was a 1155 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,319 Speaker 4: part of just me having an amazing experience a child, 1156 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,040 Speaker 4: and how how blessed I was and all that so 1157 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,160 Speaker 4: be able to give that to them. It's also a 1158 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 4: bittersweet because it reminds me how old I am now. 1159 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,480 Speaker 4: It's like you see them get it. You know, I 1160 00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,239 Speaker 4: say older all relatives speaking, but it's just like, no, 1161 00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,560 Speaker 4: I'm my daughters who was at the press conference is 1162 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,359 Speaker 4: now about to turn ten. Yeah, hold on, she ain't 1163 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:04,680 Speaker 4: want to come to locker room the work because she 1164 00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:05,520 Speaker 4: got her own thing going. 1165 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:08,520 Speaker 3: You got. 1166 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,480 Speaker 4: I missed the day. It's special though, for sure, And 1167 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,759 Speaker 4: for them to actually my son, he threw the ball 1168 00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:20,560 Speaker 4: to Clay, said congratulations. Then he waited for two days. 1169 00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:22,000 Speaker 4: He said, give me the ball back, I want to 1170 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,759 Speaker 4: play basketball. I was like, I love that. 1171 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:27,759 Speaker 3: I love that. I'm proud of self. 1172 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,359 Speaker 1: You are like to see his journey and to see 1173 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,920 Speaker 1: him on this level like he here, he ain't going nowhere, 1174 00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 1: like he here, and he's gonna be here for a 1175 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:40,359 Speaker 1: long time shooting that thing too. You made school figure like, oh, 1176 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,960 Speaker 1: it's in the blood now we gotta we can't let 1177 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,280 Speaker 1: herself go through this this mug and go to Davidson 1178 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:47,160 Speaker 1: or that. 1179 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:48,680 Speaker 3: He gotta go. He went. 1180 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 4: We went to the same high school my senior year. 1181 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,400 Speaker 4: We played on the same team as the sophomore year. 1182 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 4: So when I got, you know when to Davidson and 1183 00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 4: all that conversation started. It was the my sophomore year 1184 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,600 Speaker 4: in college that he was a senior in high school. 1185 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 4: And so he's like going through the same recruiting process 1186 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,080 Speaker 4: and all that and the same thing was happening, and 1187 00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:12,640 Speaker 4: he ended up at Liberty University fresh somewhere else. Freshman year, 1188 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,080 Speaker 4: he played at Liberty University in the Big South, so 1189 00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,880 Speaker 4: it was exact same kind of situation, but for him, 1190 00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 4: they played crazy defenses against him in their conference, like 1191 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,760 Speaker 4: the boxing one triangles and two, like all that stuff 1192 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,840 Speaker 4: to take him out because he was killing like his 1193 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,800 Speaker 4: whole year. After his freshman year was over, him and 1194 00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,480 Speaker 4: my dad were talking about like, yo, knowing how you 1195 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,960 Speaker 4: know steps you know? Career. Davidson went like, if you're 1196 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,160 Speaker 4: not playing on the tournament and not making that run, like, 1197 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,960 Speaker 4: can you actually get enough attention to get yourself a 1198 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,440 Speaker 4: chance to play in the league. And for him, like 1199 00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,320 Speaker 4: he's such a confident dude, He's like, just get me 1200 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,320 Speaker 4: on that stage, the high d one situation. I'm gonna 1201 00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:54,800 Speaker 4: show you people I'm about He got in, got Coach 1202 00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:59,720 Speaker 4: K's attention, transferred and did his thing for three years. 1203 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,920 Speaker 4: Is there And to see him go through that process 1204 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,160 Speaker 4: and then get hit with an injury coming out of 1205 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,480 Speaker 4: his senior year where he missed the draft process and 1206 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,400 Speaker 4: all that and having to kind of start from scratch 1207 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,800 Speaker 4: makes me even more proud of what he's accomplished because 1208 00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:17,920 Speaker 4: his path was even more uncertain than than mine in 1209 00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,560 Speaker 4: terms of having to go on a training camp deal 1210 00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:22,880 Speaker 4: and go to you know, two different g leagues. He 1211 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,160 Speaker 4: had I think four different ten day call ups before 1212 00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,080 Speaker 4: he got his first deal in Sacramento, and then once 1213 00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:30,920 Speaker 4: he got an opportunity. He's always like, just give me 1214 00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,160 Speaker 4: an opportunity and I'll prove myself and I'll show y'all 1215 00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,920 Speaker 4: you know I'm cable playing on this level and then 1216 00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,680 Speaker 4: from there the rest is history. He's gotten better every single. 1217 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,200 Speaker 3: Year year, every year. He's a go to guy. 1218 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,720 Speaker 4: Like he's a playmaker. He obviously can shoot the ball, 1219 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:50,560 Speaker 4: can defend, and it's just why to know, like, like 1220 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,720 Speaker 4: you said, he's here, he's he's a vet. 1221 00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:56,200 Speaker 1: Now NBA players, and we know we have kids, so 1222 00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 1: our kids instantly go in this in this pilem of NBA, 1223 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,800 Speaker 1: the kids, you know what I'm saying. So when you 1224 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,920 Speaker 1: when you see like somebody like self with all that 1225 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:09,360 Speaker 1: expectation from your dad, from you to get the opportunity 1226 00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,320 Speaker 1: to do what he do and make it on that level, 1227 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 1: to just put his own mark man. 1228 00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,080 Speaker 2: Like us guys love to see that stuff. 1229 00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,960 Speaker 4: Like you understand how hard it is, man, It's hard, 1230 00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:18,640 Speaker 4: Like how. 1231 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,160 Speaker 2: Hard it is you missed a shot a man, you 1232 00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:21,880 Speaker 2: can't shoot like. 1233 00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,000 Speaker 1: You can't shoot like your dad, and that, you know 1234 00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,680 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, just be crazy and if you feed 1235 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,360 Speaker 1: into that, it can mess your whole thing up. 1236 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:31,560 Speaker 3: Man. 1237 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,720 Speaker 2: But I'm definitely proud of him. Man, I love to 1238 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:34,400 Speaker 2: see him say. 1239 00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,520 Speaker 5: Wow, I'm sit here thinking about it. He's saying that 1240 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:42,560 Speaker 5: I play against your daddy and both his sons. That's crazy, man, 1241 00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:46,400 Speaker 5: who I mean blessed you know what I'm saying. I 1242 00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,120 Speaker 5: mean I'm blessed better. You know what I'm saying. 1243 00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,600 Speaker 3: Thank you here. 1244 00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:53,040 Speaker 4: I ain't know. 1245 00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,520 Speaker 1: We always want our name in the rap, you know, 1246 00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,440 Speaker 1: Steph Curry with the shot, one of the biggest artists 1247 00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:03,880 Speaker 1: in the world, you know, and all that. Just to 1248 01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:07,120 Speaker 1: hear your names and the culture, you know, it's part 1249 01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,360 Speaker 1: of us. That's like the process of being the man, 1250 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:12,800 Speaker 1: Like hearing your name and to hear like Drake and 1251 01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,680 Speaker 1: just other guys say your name and songs Like how 1252 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:17,360 Speaker 1: did that feel for? 1253 01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:19,600 Speaker 4: I don't know how to put that in word. It's 1254 01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,880 Speaker 4: surreal because like the first one, they don't nobody ever 1255 01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:23,640 Speaker 4: call you and tell you like yo, just. 1256 01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:28,080 Speaker 5: Up understand like he didn't leveled up so far that 1257 01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:31,880 Speaker 5: they passed like his wife and stuff in raps because yeah, 1258 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:32,960 Speaker 5: like it ain't just. 1259 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:36,440 Speaker 3: Him At this point, I talk about Cardi b. 1260 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,680 Speaker 4: She had a line like, uh, I think it's I 1261 01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,480 Speaker 4: want to get married, Like the Curry's stuff and he should. 1262 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:51,200 Speaker 4: But we is more like, remember I remember that, I 1263 01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:57,960 Speaker 4: said that. That's that's another But me and Drake actually 1264 01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,560 Speaker 4: talked about it because I was I asked, asked that question. 1265 01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,280 Speaker 4: You ain't like giving heads up. It's just you know, 1266 01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,200 Speaker 4: them dropping this bar, naming it the whole deal and 1267 01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:10,720 Speaker 4: obviously that song is unreal. But just to know like 1268 01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,080 Speaker 4: how much they're inspired and appreciate what you do, that 1269 01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:14,760 Speaker 4: to the point where they it's on the top of 1270 01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:16,400 Speaker 4: the mind when they're in the studio doing the whole 1271 01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,560 Speaker 4: process and all that, so that that respected so much 1272 01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:22,200 Speaker 4: back and forth. So I do need somebody to get 1273 01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:26,440 Speaker 4: like the playlist going of every just had that in 1274 01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:27,040 Speaker 4: the archives. 1275 01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:31,040 Speaker 5: That's that's that happened soon. Just up, somebody gonna run that. 1276 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,360 Speaker 5: Somebody run that for me right quick. This this is 1277 01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,880 Speaker 5: what I want to know because I you know, born 1278 01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:40,960 Speaker 5: and bred. I'm a Chicago kid. So I take offense 1279 01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:48,520 Speaker 5: to hearing that you think your Warriors team was it 1280 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:49,800 Speaker 5: with or without KD. 1281 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,600 Speaker 3: With k I'm not really tripping. 1282 01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,720 Speaker 5: I just want to be sure little world right now, 1283 01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,680 Speaker 5: you said y'all could beat MJ and the Bulls. 1284 01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:08,720 Speaker 4: I said it, and I told her the floor is yours, explained, 1285 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,760 Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's the best place of sick because 1286 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:14,840 Speaker 4: I could be right, I could be wrong, and ain't 1287 01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,360 Speaker 4: everybody nobody find out, you know. But the best part 1288 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,240 Speaker 4: is I talked the m J of the summer when 1289 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,960 Speaker 4: I did an interview with him talking about golf. Ironically, 1290 01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,280 Speaker 4: he would be disappointed. I think if I didn't have 1291 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:29,080 Speaker 4: that confidence in my team, because if anybody is going 1292 01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,320 Speaker 4: to try to measure up with him in the Dynasty 1293 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,400 Speaker 4: of the Bulls, you can't have no other attitude than that. 1294 01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:38,320 Speaker 4: So I love it though, because as any hooping anybody 1295 01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,680 Speaker 4: who watched that team, you know how great they were 1296 01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:44,040 Speaker 4: and how great he is the greatest ever. Like, what 1297 01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:44,840 Speaker 4: are we talking about. 1298 01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:49,040 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna be on the record. I'm going with MJ. 1299 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:53,400 Speaker 3: And at least is it? I mean, can we get there? 1300 01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,520 Speaker 4: Because I said Ward, dubs and six, which like you 1301 01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:57,240 Speaker 4: gotta give us. 1302 01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,840 Speaker 2: A Jordan, don't go seven gonna do that. 1303 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:01,640 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna. 1304 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:09,640 Speaker 5: Mike listen, Mike, don't listen. This is what they gotta 1305 01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:11,560 Speaker 5: understand when we start. This is what I tell people 1306 01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,560 Speaker 5: we started talking about. I ain't gonna go into all 1307 01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:15,680 Speaker 5: of this, But I'm just saying they shouldn't have asked 1308 01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,360 Speaker 5: me the question. That's right. They shouldn't have bro just 1309 01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:21,840 Speaker 5: like when we like he said he how many times 1310 01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:22,400 Speaker 5: he been there? 1311 01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:29,080 Speaker 3: Six? How many times? Six? Like listen, I'm from. 1312 01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:32,360 Speaker 5: Chicago, where we all still firmly believe had he not 1313 01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,160 Speaker 5: taking that break, we running eight nine of them were 1314 01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,320 Speaker 5: sitting there, like when he came fresh out, when he 1315 01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:39,560 Speaker 5: came from baseball and came back, we said, we want 1316 01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:40,560 Speaker 5: I'm talking, he ain't played. 1317 01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:42,720 Speaker 3: We said I'm back. We said we won. 1318 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,000 Speaker 5: That's how we felt, and we thought in Chicago, like 1319 01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,720 Speaker 5: he back, we want Scotty still there were good, like it's. 1320 01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:50,720 Speaker 4: Over something about me just want I just want to 1321 01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,280 Speaker 4: know what that felt like, because like I grew up 1322 01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,800 Speaker 4: watching the Hornets and I love my dad. That's a difference. 1323 01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,960 Speaker 4: It's just a different fan experience. Right. It's a new 1324 01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,400 Speaker 4: team and got to the second round a couple of times, 1325 01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,400 Speaker 4: but you know, like that confidence. 1326 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:06,120 Speaker 3: Is a fat Every person in the city felt like that. 1327 01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:11,640 Speaker 1: We said we won, right, so that means you definitely 1328 01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:15,360 Speaker 1: remember them. L J Grandmama commercials and all that stuff. 1329 01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,200 Speaker 1: Those are the best man between. 1330 01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:19,120 Speaker 3: You had the part. 1331 01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:29,440 Speaker 4: I had the alonzo H crazy man, she's getting a 1332 01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:35,520 Speaker 4: shot off mugs my dad Ken Gill, a squad. 1333 01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:36,960 Speaker 3: Shot. 1334 01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you, Uh, You're the only person that 1335 01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,880 Speaker 1: get played the way you you play. You've seen all 1336 01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:47,760 Speaker 1: kind of defenses, like different strategies. How is that to see, 1337 01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:51,760 Speaker 1: like the biggest league ever, the highest level ever, I'm 1338 01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:52,720 Speaker 1: the only person in this. 1339 01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,720 Speaker 2: League getting guarded like this. And sometimes that can be. 1340 01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,280 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, at your height, at your length, 1341 01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:01,560 Speaker 1: it's a lot of guys at your size that they 1342 01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,720 Speaker 1: can try to throw at you, double team you, or 1343 01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:04,600 Speaker 1: not let you do that. 1344 01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,440 Speaker 2: And no, guys just haven't got to that level yet. 1345 01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:10,040 Speaker 2: They don't play the way you play. 1346 01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,880 Speaker 4: I mean, obviously, it's it's respect and knowing what I'm 1347 01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,800 Speaker 4: capable of on the floor. It's weird. I don't know 1348 01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,480 Speaker 4: if I'm wired different. It's one time that I kind 1349 01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:21,200 Speaker 4: of gave into it and it's like, yo, what what 1350 01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:23,160 Speaker 4: is going on? That was during the finals when they 1351 01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:26,040 Speaker 4: ran Toronto ran the Box and one and I'm looking 1352 01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:29,800 Speaker 4: around like, yo, were in the finals right right? This 1353 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,160 Speaker 4: is college and how what's going on? The one time 1354 01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:34,720 Speaker 4: I was looking around like what's going the rest of 1355 01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:36,600 Speaker 4: the time, it's like a challenge, like in terms of 1356 01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,760 Speaker 4: how can I adaptive all figure out something different because 1357 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:43,160 Speaker 4: like you said, you know six three six three wingspans 1358 01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:46,200 Speaker 4: like creating space For me, it's different than the other 1359 01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,160 Speaker 4: guys in terms of being able to get your shot 1360 01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,960 Speaker 4: off and find different ways to score at the rim, 1361 01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,360 Speaker 4: mid range, the three, all that type of stuff. So 1362 01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:56,800 Speaker 4: you know, I love the style of being able to 1363 01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:58,840 Speaker 4: play on and off the ball and like just the 1364 01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,600 Speaker 4: chaos that you can create even if I don't have it, 1365 01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:05,640 Speaker 4: Like those possessions are mad funder me. Just you get 1366 01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:07,720 Speaker 4: off of it. You run on the lane, come off 1367 01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:09,920 Speaker 4: a screen, two people come with you, somebody a lay 1368 01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,360 Speaker 4: up like that brings joy to like the way that 1369 01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,760 Speaker 4: I approach the game. So it's always gonna be an evolution. 1370 01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:17,640 Speaker 4: The rest of my career is just trying to figure 1371 01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:19,080 Speaker 4: out ways to stay impactful. 1372 01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:22,400 Speaker 3: That's the cheat code right there. That's where he's a 1373 01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:23,760 Speaker 3: cheat code, because. 1374 01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:27,480 Speaker 5: I'm serious, Like just what you just said, like you're 1375 01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,680 Speaker 5: gonna take the ball from right Like okay, well I'm 1376 01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:32,560 Speaker 5: gonna go turn into Reggie Miller and reality and run 1377 01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,720 Speaker 5: around a million times and screensy, but then I could get. 1378 01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:38,240 Speaker 3: The ball and b A, I would a ratchet. 1379 01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,280 Speaker 2: I know if I was going ahead with I hate 1380 01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:42,160 Speaker 2: the fucking floursh screen. 1381 01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:44,840 Speaker 3: He come out that bucket. He's just looking like this 1382 01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:49,120 Speaker 3: and he just I'm like, man, what he come? He 1383 01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:53,200 Speaker 3: just came off the screen and he acted like right back. 1384 01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:57,080 Speaker 2: So flash screen, like those flash screens be killing fuss. 1385 01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,120 Speaker 4: When when I broke the record, that was one thing 1386 01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:01,120 Speaker 4: I want to make sure I now, let's just you know, 1387 01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,400 Speaker 4: the people that sacrifice their body like to set the 1388 01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:05,880 Speaker 4: screens for me because I can be as fast as 1389 01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,520 Speaker 4: I want to be running off the screens, like between 1390 01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:14,120 Speaker 4: Draymond and uh Bogat d le uh essus the zill 1391 01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:18,680 Speaker 4: yuh most spaces I'm leave somebody out. But I had 1392 01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:22,560 Speaker 4: so many guys in that window that Javel like set 1393 01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,840 Speaker 4: amazing screens for me that it made it work. So 1394 01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:27,200 Speaker 4: it all, it all works together. 1395 01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:30,200 Speaker 5: The biggest year that I could liken too when I 1396 01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,880 Speaker 5: can even try and compare like I did when I 1397 01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:34,959 Speaker 5: was in Phoenix, right. 1398 01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:36,920 Speaker 3: When we first started just letting it go. 1399 01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:39,480 Speaker 5: It was the first year I would get seventeen three 1400 01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:43,200 Speaker 5: point ten sometimes eighteen like our legit would come down 1401 01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:44,840 Speaker 5: and be like I look at it, like you know 1402 01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:46,400 Speaker 5: how you know your boys on the other team, we'd 1403 01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,640 Speaker 5: be standing fire, Like next time I touched that things 1404 01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:49,560 Speaker 5: going up, I don't. 1405 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:52,960 Speaker 3: Care where it's at right, so look, you know, be laughing. 1406 01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,280 Speaker 5: Like, I promise you, I didn't man that thing that 1407 01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:57,320 Speaker 5: skipped to me before I picked up off the ground. 1408 01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:02,360 Speaker 5: And so look what I see from you, like I 1409 01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,240 Speaker 5: see sometime when you get in the real and I 1410 01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:05,880 Speaker 5: promise you. I used to do this sometimes when I 1411 01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:07,680 Speaker 5: was in Phoenix, cause I had a lot of games 1412 01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:11,000 Speaker 5: with seven six. So if I feel like i'm hot, yeah, 1413 01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,360 Speaker 5: I play with it, like okay, this next one, I'm 1414 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,599 Speaker 5: about to shoot this thing so high to the rafts. 1415 01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:19,439 Speaker 5: Like I'm asking because I feel like I've seen you 1416 01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,360 Speaker 5: do that. I'm asking to make sure because I know 1417 01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,400 Speaker 5: sometimes he comes down and blah blah blah thnk. 1418 01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:25,760 Speaker 4: He just I'm like, hold up, there's a little bit 1419 01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:26,880 Speaker 4: of that game in the game. 1420 01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:30,160 Speaker 5: I'm telling because you're feeling yourself so much like I 1421 01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:31,200 Speaker 5: want it if I could. 1422 01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,799 Speaker 4: Do this when you have that of a rational conference 1423 01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:35,680 Speaker 4: that you don't care the results. She was like, I'm 1424 01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:36,120 Speaker 4: just trying. 1425 01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:38,720 Speaker 3: I had a lot of that, A lot of that. 1426 01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:39,640 Speaker 3: I'm telling you. 1427 01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,000 Speaker 5: When you got that, coach ain't gonna say nothing, shout 1428 01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:44,400 Speaker 5: out coache boy, I ain't gonna say nothing. 1429 01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:46,040 Speaker 3: Ain't no bad shot. 1430 01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,240 Speaker 4: That's a different that's a different level you get to. 1431 01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:49,920 Speaker 3: I like that telling you. I like that. 1432 01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:54,479 Speaker 5: Was it the irrational confidence or was it the way 1433 01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:57,599 Speaker 5: teams regarding you that led you to shooting forty footers? 1434 01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:02,560 Speaker 5: Cause where like being drew you like like you, I 1435 01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,240 Speaker 5: know you the initiate of it. But Dame and y'all 1436 01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:08,320 Speaker 5: we call y'all range ropy'll you know what I'm saying, Like, 1437 01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:11,720 Speaker 5: y'all boys anywhere coming, y'all got in the gym right, 1438 01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,960 Speaker 5: Like how did it Legit come to the point, all right, 1439 01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:15,880 Speaker 5: I'm about to come across the. 1440 01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:16,719 Speaker 3: Half court and crack. 1441 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:22,960 Speaker 4: You arranged from first, maybe one or tiers, but mostly 1442 01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,240 Speaker 4: the rational conference of work that you put in. And 1443 01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:28,760 Speaker 4: then it became a reaction to how defensive guardian, Like 1444 01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:33,640 Speaker 4: where is the most amount of space? And you have 1445 01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,360 Speaker 4: to balance those too, because yeah, everybody got space twenty 1446 01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:40,000 Speaker 4: eight feet, but it's at a good shot. It came 1447 01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:43,080 Speaker 4: with time and it was just a natural progression of 1448 01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,640 Speaker 4: my game throughout the years, and then once you hit 1449 01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,920 Speaker 4: a couple though, and you like, it's not the nain't luck. 1450 01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:53,080 Speaker 4: It's like once you establish you know, this is where 1451 01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,400 Speaker 4: I'm at. Like, that's a good feeling to have knowing 1452 01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:57,880 Speaker 4: that you can surprise defenses no matter what, because it's 1453 01:09:58,200 --> 01:09:59,160 Speaker 4: hard to defend that show. 1454 01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:02,720 Speaker 5: One of my favorit once is when I think it 1455 01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,080 Speaker 5: was against the Clippers. I think it was against the Clippers. 1456 01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,920 Speaker 5: You didn't zip zam bloom and did a turn around 1457 01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:12,439 Speaker 5: and steve like no and didn't hit it. 1458 01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:16,280 Speaker 4: He like he walking back on that was coaches first year. 1459 01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:20,000 Speaker 4: That was fourteen fifty seasons first year and he's trying 1460 01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:21,920 Speaker 4: to come in and implement the system. But how did 1461 01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:26,040 Speaker 4: that That man hit the open guy? Every something good 1462 01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:29,200 Speaker 4: is gonna happen, and I must have not heard that 1463 01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:33,680 Speaker 4: near that lesson. So his like he's coming in with 1464 01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:35,960 Speaker 4: a certain perspective, and that was I didn't get to 1465 01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,120 Speaker 4: see his reaction in real time. I saw it afterwards, 1466 01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:41,160 Speaker 4: So it was beautiful knowing there's been plenty of times 1467 01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,160 Speaker 4: where he's done that and I missed and he's like 1468 01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:47,160 Speaker 4: then I look over there and my bad bad, but uh, 1469 01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:49,439 Speaker 4: more times it works out. 1470 01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:51,720 Speaker 1: Of course you're saying your dud, But who's some of 1471 01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,120 Speaker 1: them guys that it was like, man, I want to 1472 01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:55,880 Speaker 1: be like like him. 1473 01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:57,479 Speaker 3: I want to be like that person. 1474 01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:01,560 Speaker 4: Steve Ash and Reggie Miller were the two guys that 1475 01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,680 Speaker 4: I watching as I got older, I felt like, oh 1476 01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:09,320 Speaker 4: I could kind of combined the two and and morph 1477 01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:12,920 Speaker 4: in the one. I mean, everybody love m J. Everybody 1478 01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:14,240 Speaker 4: love a y'all. 1479 01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:15,360 Speaker 3: Can't beat them there, y'all. 1480 01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:22,200 Speaker 4: As a fan, as a fan is somebody who just love, 1481 01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:26,560 Speaker 4: you know, like creativity, competition, and just basketball at the 1482 01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:27,880 Speaker 4: highest level. Like those two guys. 1483 01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,800 Speaker 1: Who was the one person people might not really know 1484 01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:34,320 Speaker 1: or they might not be the biggest fan of was like, man, 1485 01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:35,920 Speaker 1: he it was something about him. 1486 01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:36,800 Speaker 3: I just loved him. 1487 01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:40,120 Speaker 4: You know what's funny, I'm forgetting it. 1488 01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:40,479 Speaker 3: Uh. 1489 01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,599 Speaker 4: What was Martin that played for Sacramento. 1490 01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:50,040 Speaker 3: Kevin? Yeah, like that kind of wind up John. 1491 01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:53,160 Speaker 4: So he was a dude that had like nobody would 1492 01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:56,400 Speaker 4: teachers for him, right, but for some reason, every time 1493 01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:58,360 Speaker 4: you got your guard him and you knew like, I'm like, 1494 01:11:58,439 --> 01:11:59,880 Speaker 4: you know, I might get a block to night because 1495 01:11:59,920 --> 01:12:01,560 Speaker 4: he gonna do like this and I don't get to 1496 01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,320 Speaker 4: swipe down on it and everything. It was like we 1497 01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:06,439 Speaker 4: have like we call him the Warrior All Star Team. 1498 01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,920 Speaker 4: It's the five guys that when you play against him, 1499 01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:12,000 Speaker 4: they have career nights every night, like Brandon Jennings was 1500 01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:14,840 Speaker 4: on that, Kevin Martin was on that list like every night, 1501 01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:18,759 Speaker 4: and I'm like, I just love the way. How uncanny 1502 01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:20,320 Speaker 4: it is that you can get your shot off and 1503 01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:24,439 Speaker 4: do it with such an unorthodox form, but we know 1504 01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,040 Speaker 4: it's coming and you still do it. Like he was 1505 01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:29,240 Speaker 4: a dude that I just appreciate. And he was a 1506 01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:32,880 Speaker 4: Southern Conference guy. He went to Western Carolina, so I 1507 01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:35,519 Speaker 4: got to Uh, I ain't play against him, but we 1508 01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:36,719 Speaker 4: had that special bond. 1509 01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:39,760 Speaker 3: Special bond tell me this, like how do we feel? 1510 01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:42,040 Speaker 5: I know, I know you're a humble, humble dude, right, 1511 01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:44,599 Speaker 5: but how do it feel to get to the point 1512 01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:49,800 Speaker 5: to where people feel like you changed the game of basketball, 1513 01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:52,519 Speaker 5: like globally, like you changed the way A little kid 1514 01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:54,800 Speaker 5: like Mike had guys going out there trying to be 1515 01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:57,880 Speaker 5: like Mike and do crazy dunks and layers like now, 1516 01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,599 Speaker 5: I don't care where you go, you turn on balls life. 1517 01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:03,880 Speaker 5: Any of the WHO Mixtape all this stuff. You go, 1518 01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:06,600 Speaker 5: you see kids trying to be Steph Curry trying to 1519 01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:10,120 Speaker 5: come down pool from wherever. Whether it's they had any 1520 01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:12,759 Speaker 5: business doing it or not, you got the whole world 1521 01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:13,519 Speaker 5: trying to do that. 1522 01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:17,800 Speaker 4: I'm gonna use this moment, get on my soapbox and 1523 01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:22,040 Speaker 4: stop tagging me and all these horrible basketball clips. And 1524 01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:25,559 Speaker 4: people take a bad shot, ruin the game. I did 1525 01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:32,000 Speaker 4: not tell you to shoot. I did not say there 1526 01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:35,559 Speaker 4: was one the other day. Quickly took a shot in transition. 1527 01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:37,400 Speaker 4: I probably would have shot that shot, but I did 1528 01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:42,960 Speaker 4: not tell you. And they just tagging left and right, 1529 01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:46,320 Speaker 4: left and right, like, yo, you've ruined the game. Thanks 1530 01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:47,640 Speaker 4: like thanks to I'm like. 1531 01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,519 Speaker 3: Yo, you're the goro. They send them all to you. 1532 01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:55,880 Speaker 4: It's funny, though, because I appreciate the ability to change 1533 01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:58,559 Speaker 4: way people approach the game is unreal, because the three 1534 01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:01,479 Speaker 4: point shot and just shooting the basketsketball is it's a 1535 01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,599 Speaker 4: skill that everybody can work on, Like you can get 1536 01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:06,760 Speaker 4: better at that, Like I truly believe that how much better? 1537 01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:11,439 Speaker 4: Who knows? But not everybody can just go do cafes 1538 01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:12,800 Speaker 4: and feel like you can get a forty inch vert. 1539 01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:17,000 Speaker 4: Nobody can grow six inches, Like you can shoot the ball, 1540 01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:20,160 Speaker 4: and no matter what level you play, what league it is, 1541 01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:23,880 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter, like every like everybody, that's a common 1542 01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:25,840 Speaker 4: thread amongst basket players. You have to be to shoot 1543 01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:29,600 Speaker 4: the ball, so to have affected that skill set in 1544 01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:31,599 Speaker 4: the game, which is probably the most important in the game. 1545 01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:35,080 Speaker 4: Like that's dope. And it's also the responsibility of being 1546 01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:37,360 Speaker 4: able to teach the next generation and make sure that 1547 01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:40,120 Speaker 4: that messaging is there for them that that is possible 1548 01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:43,599 Speaker 4: like stretch the imagination the creativity of what you can 1549 01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:46,439 Speaker 4: do on the basketball floor. But don't skip you see 1550 01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:48,479 Speaker 4: me over here, don't skip this part. This part is 1551 01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:48,840 Speaker 4: the work. 1552 01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:51,320 Speaker 5: I mean, that's what to me, that's what separate like 1553 01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:53,160 Speaker 5: when you when you get in the class, Like it's 1554 01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:55,519 Speaker 5: not a lot of people that can get that set 1555 01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:57,200 Speaker 5: about them, Like you didn't say it, but like to 1556 01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,439 Speaker 5: have people saying, oh you like you think about it. 1557 01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:04,800 Speaker 5: It's like who will kareem? MJ doctor J. You know 1558 01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:07,400 Speaker 5: what I'm saying, magic the girls got like your dirt. 1559 01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:09,720 Speaker 5: Like though it's not a lot of dudes who could 1560 01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:12,680 Speaker 5: say like saying you want m vps, want Championshooters. But 1561 01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,519 Speaker 5: to say that, like Hey, this dude changed the game globally. 1562 01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:19,599 Speaker 5: Got Like when Iverson came, he had the whole entire world. 1563 01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:22,759 Speaker 5: I don't care if you could do it, like everybody 1564 01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,200 Speaker 5: was all over here with Like that's like some once 1565 01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,880 Speaker 5: in the lifetime type stuff like where you get get 1566 01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:30,760 Speaker 5: that type of you know, credit for something and then 1567 01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:32,040 Speaker 5: you literally see it. 1568 01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,000 Speaker 3: You look around and it's everybody doing that. 1569 01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:38,479 Speaker 4: It's it's I mean, hopefully's inspirational. I hate to use 1570 01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:43,160 Speaker 4: that term, but it's it's something that would live for forever. 1571 01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:46,280 Speaker 4: I think in terms of how kids approach the game 1572 01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:49,240 Speaker 4: and uh and what they can imagine themselves doing. 1573 01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:52,320 Speaker 1: So it's good for the game cause like man, back 1574 01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:54,840 Speaker 1: in the day, they were shooting four threes. The whole 1575 01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:58,120 Speaker 1: team was shooting four threes the game and just showed 1576 01:15:58,160 --> 01:15:59,840 Speaker 1: that's what the reason the quarter is that big. 1577 01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:01,160 Speaker 3: You can use all of it. 1578 01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:04,200 Speaker 5: Like every key, every player won had their own shoe. 1579 01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:08,240 Speaker 5: You then went from own shoe to the whole damn brand. 1580 01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:12,720 Speaker 3: Like what do that feel like? Like you right now 1581 01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:16,519 Speaker 3: got a Curry brand, Scully you on, like we got 1582 01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:18,240 Speaker 3: on doing you go with all it? 1583 01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:20,960 Speaker 2: Sure it's war especially where we're at. 1584 01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:25,559 Speaker 4: I got the win or no cut looks. So it's 1585 01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,880 Speaker 4: an amazing opportunity to continue to bring people along this 1586 01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,479 Speaker 4: journey with me cause I got my first signature shoe 1587 01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:35,519 Speaker 4: in twenty fifteen. To now have your own brand that 1588 01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:39,920 Speaker 4: you get to you know, inspire kids, inspire people to 1589 01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:43,120 Speaker 4: change their communities in the way that they can. And 1590 01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:46,320 Speaker 4: that's such a universal sentiment that anybody can adopt because 1591 01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:49,240 Speaker 4: you can fill in the gap of what that means 1592 01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:52,200 Speaker 4: and who you get to affect an impact, and that's 1593 01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:54,680 Speaker 4: what the brand is all about. And then you know, 1594 01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:58,080 Speaker 4: from an athlete perspective, like the signature shoe business, we 1595 01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,840 Speaker 4: all know it's hard, like it's a it's every year 1596 01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:03,559 Speaker 4: you got to continue to elevate and continue to evolve 1597 01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:06,519 Speaker 4: and how it's you set standards high. So that process 1598 01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:11,160 Speaker 4: has been unbelievably like fun and rewarding. And to know 1599 01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:14,040 Speaker 4: that I'm like my ninth signature shoe. We got to 1600 01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:16,320 Speaker 4: run a shoe, a lifestyle shoe. We in the golf 1601 01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:19,320 Speaker 4: now and everything that we do and we sell is 1602 01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:24,479 Speaker 4: tie into giving back to the community to help use sports, 1603 01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:29,200 Speaker 4: continue to service you know, the next generation, and provide 1604 01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:31,840 Speaker 4: opportunities for kids to play and have safe places to 1605 01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:35,760 Speaker 4: go play too, So everything about it is authentic to me. 1606 01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:39,120 Speaker 4: I know, we're just getting started. Like that's the dope part, Like, 1607 01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:41,800 Speaker 4: you know, it could be something that's around for a 1608 01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:42,280 Speaker 4: long time. 1609 01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:46,400 Speaker 1: How does it feel to be a power cup? Like 1610 01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:48,680 Speaker 1: be a part of a power cup? Like a lot 1611 01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:49,280 Speaker 1: of a lot of. 1612 01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:53,120 Speaker 4: That's a great I mean follow up to the question. 1613 01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:59,640 Speaker 4: But it's an interesting position because now many people know 1614 01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:04,200 Speaker 4: our beast. Like we met in high school at youth group. Honestly, 1615 01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:08,120 Speaker 4: you know, started dating my after my freshman year in college, 1616 01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:11,960 Speaker 4: and everything was just a natural progression of just sharing 1617 01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:14,439 Speaker 4: life and living and figuring it out on the fly 1618 01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:18,080 Speaker 4: together and you ride that wave together and your bond 1619 01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:21,479 Speaker 4: is so tight and all the experiences you do together 1620 01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:25,920 Speaker 4: that it's really hard to understand as the rocket ship 1621 01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,400 Speaker 4: kind of goes through in basketball success and her career 1622 01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:31,479 Speaker 4: success all kind of a line how you're received and 1623 01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:34,599 Speaker 4: what the conversations are and like whatever power couple means 1624 01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:38,439 Speaker 4: and that that respect. What we pride ourselves on is 1625 01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:40,600 Speaker 4: trying to be as real as possible and understand like 1626 01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:44,280 Speaker 4: people are inspired by you know, couples that have quote 1627 01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:47,280 Speaker 4: unquote figured it out or uh stand for something and 1628 01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:51,160 Speaker 4: have you know, something to share, But we don't put 1629 01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:55,280 Speaker 4: ourselves on that platform stuff like you know of what 1630 01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:58,160 Speaker 4: that means. It's just living life and sharing you know, 1631 01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:01,320 Speaker 4: bits and pieces of who we are. So I appreciate 1632 01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:04,639 Speaker 4: that so much because if you think about like everything 1633 01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:06,840 Speaker 4: we talk, I think that's happened. Like she's been by 1634 01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:10,240 Speaker 4: my side from day one, and I wouldn't trade that 1635 01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:13,080 Speaker 4: for the for the world. And now we have our kids, 1636 01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:15,479 Speaker 4: like we have a shared perspective on how we're trying 1637 01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:18,040 Speaker 4: to raise our kids. Miss miss all this chaos and 1638 01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:21,920 Speaker 4: the platform and the bright light, so you know, that's helpful. 1639 01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,840 Speaker 4: And obviously you know, you don't know what the future 1640 01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,560 Speaker 4: is going to hold and and we're all trying to 1641 01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:30,160 Speaker 4: figure it out and adjust as you go through the 1642 01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:33,160 Speaker 4: different seasons in life. And we're gonna keep sharing that 1643 01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:33,920 Speaker 4: as much as we can. 1644 01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,120 Speaker 1: So we love the courage as a whole, you know, 1645 01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:38,760 Speaker 1: the whole family. So man, y'all keep on doing, y'all. 1646 01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:42,760 Speaker 1: We live and appreciate y'all. How y'all representing us. It's 1647 01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:44,639 Speaker 1: good to see you and your family doing y'all. 1648 01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:45,400 Speaker 4: I appreciate that. 1649 01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:48,920 Speaker 3: Man. I want to know where are you a credit? 1650 01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:52,800 Speaker 5: Like the philanthropy and the selflessness of you and the 1651 01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,920 Speaker 5: giving back and every time you turn around, you doing 1652 01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:59,080 Speaker 5: something dope in the community, giving back, giving shoes, creating 1653 01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,280 Speaker 5: shoes for the little girl, when you know all of 1654 01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:04,400 Speaker 5: those different things, not taking the proceeds, giving the proceeds 1655 01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:07,080 Speaker 5: to this and that, Like we know that's rare, you 1656 01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:08,519 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. I don't know that the you know, 1657 01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:10,800 Speaker 5: world really understanding. But where do you think you got 1658 01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,280 Speaker 5: that put in your heart to be that type of person? 1659 01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:15,479 Speaker 5: And like literally every time you turn around, I'm like, 1660 01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:18,720 Speaker 5: damn man, like this dude, Like, boy, every time you 1661 01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:20,720 Speaker 5: turn around, you're doing something dope for the for the 1662 01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:21,840 Speaker 5: community and stuff. 1663 01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:23,479 Speaker 4: What do you think you got to start of the 1664 01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:27,360 Speaker 4: philanthropic efforts and just to focus on it and making 1665 01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:30,519 Speaker 4: it priority. Started with my parents. My pops had computer 1666 01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:35,240 Speaker 4: learning centers and Charlotte, the Greater Charlotte area, and maybe 1667 01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:36,840 Speaker 4: two or three times a year he was opening up 1668 01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:39,000 Speaker 4: a new and me and my siblings would go volunteer 1669 01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:40,360 Speaker 4: and do all that. So I got to see like 1670 01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:43,839 Speaker 4: how basketball could lead to an impact in the community 1671 01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:47,240 Speaker 4: that uh for a fan base and people that supported 1672 01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:49,040 Speaker 4: them on the court. He was able to support them 1673 01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:53,559 Speaker 4: right back. And so that's initiated everything that I've tried 1674 01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:55,720 Speaker 4: to do in doors that are open to me from 1675 01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:59,080 Speaker 4: the you know, my successes on the court, and you know, 1676 01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:03,600 Speaker 4: the platform to always, you know, find a way to 1677 01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:05,920 Speaker 4: think selflessly and try to give back and then you 1678 01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,000 Speaker 4: can bring people along that journey with you. And so 1679 01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:10,000 Speaker 4: that for me is special. But it's also like my 1680 01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:14,120 Speaker 4: faith is huge to me in terms of like I 1681 01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:16,679 Speaker 4: knew I was giving a guy given skill and ability 1682 01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:20,200 Speaker 4: to play this game, and I love and an approach 1683 01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:25,439 Speaker 4: to it. But there's always, always, always gratitude for everything 1684 01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:27,880 Speaker 4: that I get, Like it's not me, Like I put 1685 01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:29,800 Speaker 4: it work in, but it's not me. And so if 1686 01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:34,439 Speaker 4: I can have an opportunity to leverage that in a 1687 01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:38,320 Speaker 4: positive way, I'm doing right by the blessings that I've 1688 01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:40,000 Speaker 4: been given. And so I have to make sure I 1689 01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:42,960 Speaker 4: say that out loud and make sure that that's a 1690 01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:46,360 Speaker 4: consistent thing, because you can get lost in the sauce 1691 01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:46,759 Speaker 4: and the stuff. 1692 01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:48,840 Speaker 5: Pretty cool, truly. Now that's why I'm sitting there bringing 1693 01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:51,280 Speaker 5: this up. I'm saluting you from that standpoint because, like 1694 01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:53,280 Speaker 5: you say, we all been in the league and we 1695 01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:55,840 Speaker 5: know how like you say, you get busy and caught 1696 01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:59,839 Speaker 5: up in all of this stuff. You know, somebody, especially 1697 01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,840 Speaker 5: your position, has got so many things going on, and 1698 01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:05,200 Speaker 5: for you to make that a focal point of yours 1699 01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:06,439 Speaker 5: to like you know what I'm saying, because a lot 1700 01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:07,800 Speaker 5: of people we get a lot of money, and we 1701 01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:10,599 Speaker 5: enjoyed and we do things. So it's it's super dope 1702 01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:13,960 Speaker 5: for us to see how much you do for everybody. 1703 01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:14,080 Speaker 3: Else with that. 1704 01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:18,640 Speaker 4: Absolutely, that's big. Absolutely, And then you think about like 1705 01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:23,760 Speaker 4: the community that has supported me and my family. I've 1706 01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,080 Speaker 4: moved to the Bay when i was twenty one years 1707 01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:28,160 Speaker 4: old and I've been there for thirteen years. I raised 1708 01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:31,120 Speaker 4: my family there, the fan base that support us, who 1709 01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:34,439 Speaker 4: taken thin and me and my wife were able to 1710 01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:39,160 Speaker 4: start a foundation called Heat Learned Play that services ninety 1711 01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:42,720 Speaker 4: percent of our work is done in Oakland around the 1712 01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:48,479 Speaker 4: next generation, setting up resources and the village around the 1713 01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:51,600 Speaker 4: talent that is all throughout that city. But the opportunity 1714 01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:53,840 Speaker 4: is not so it's another way to get back to 1715 01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,800 Speaker 4: represent Like Yo, basketball has been awesome. We've all had 1716 01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,719 Speaker 4: amazing experiences. We celebrate championships. You've done all this stuff. 1717 01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:03,840 Speaker 4: This little orange ball has been the spark to that. 1718 01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:07,000 Speaker 4: But now you know it's gonna lead to you know, 1719 01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:09,519 Speaker 4: changing lives dramatically, and then that can be able to 1720 01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:11,680 Speaker 4: pass the towards to somebody else. So I'm just doing 1721 01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:12,360 Speaker 4: my part. 1722 01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:17,880 Speaker 1: Show us about some of these famous, these family like shootouts, like, so, 1723 01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:21,240 Speaker 1: what is some of the days it was your daddy 1724 01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:22,880 Speaker 1: kicking for a long time. 1725 01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:24,200 Speaker 3: He always. 1726 01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:28,680 Speaker 2: Right where it's like, oh, he can't really fuck with. 1727 01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:30,040 Speaker 3: Me like that. I got that. 1728 01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:33,120 Speaker 4: I beat him in horse when I was thirteen, but 1729 01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:37,160 Speaker 4: he always he always like, you're only as good as 1730 01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:39,560 Speaker 4: your last game. As he was, yeah, and so he 1731 01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:41,800 Speaker 4: was just waiting for the next hour. He actually he 1732 01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:44,240 Speaker 4: won the last one. It's all three of us, uh, 1733 01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:48,920 Speaker 4: in the backyard at the house in Charlotte. So he's 1734 01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:52,320 Speaker 4: like he is the reigning Curry champ. I guess right now. 1735 01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:56,519 Speaker 4: I hate I hate to admit that, but like I said, 1736 01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:58,880 Speaker 4: shooters can always shoot you. That's the thing I like 1737 01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:00,840 Speaker 4: and am. But I hate this same time as he's 1738 01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:04,920 Speaker 4: you know, he's doing color commentating for the Hornets. He 1739 01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:07,280 Speaker 4: probably shoots ten shots a year, but when them ten 1740 01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:07,760 Speaker 4: shots go. 1741 01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:11,439 Speaker 3: Up, they show it. I've seen it. I've seen it 1742 01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:14,799 Speaker 3: look looking smooth. It's crazy. 1743 01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:18,080 Speaker 5: Listen, this is you could just sit here like, uh, 1744 01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:21,200 Speaker 5: spectate this part of the conversations because you ain't. You 1745 01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:23,040 Speaker 5: ain't got nothing to do. You know, a whole lot 1746 01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:24,960 Speaker 5: of thumbs, a whole lot of block shots, a whole 1747 01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:27,919 Speaker 5: lot of but he ain't that one on three points competition. 1748 01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:29,160 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Man, you can sit here. 1749 01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:30,960 Speaker 3: And so that's what I say. I did. You know 1750 01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:34,040 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So we're gonna go like we had 1751 01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:34,800 Speaker 3: this conversation. 1752 01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:38,519 Speaker 5: You feel me like talk about when you get up 1753 01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:40,680 Speaker 5: there you sell on that little block what that feel like? 1754 01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:43,400 Speaker 5: Right when you know you won't deck when it's like 1755 01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:45,040 Speaker 5: the whole world about to watch you. 1756 01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:46,479 Speaker 3: You ain't. It's you in the ring. 1757 01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:51,599 Speaker 4: That's a different feeling, and you can't cross off the rack. 1758 01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:54,519 Speaker 4: It's a wild adrenaline rush because like you said, you 1759 01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:56,400 Speaker 4: know you got sixty seconds to get it in, and 1760 01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:59,400 Speaker 4: especially if you missed the first two or three, you 1761 01:24:59,400 --> 01:24:59,720 Speaker 4: feel like. 1762 01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:04,000 Speaker 3: You're called the person before like like. 1763 01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:08,439 Speaker 4: Oh, it's a different thing, Like you know how different 1764 01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:10,000 Speaker 4: is than just shooting the basketball in the game, Like 1765 01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:12,000 Speaker 4: you say, it's just you on the stage. But once 1766 01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:14,599 Speaker 4: you get hot, though, that's that's one of the best 1767 01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:18,519 Speaker 4: feelings in the world. I was kids, you know, like, uh, 1768 01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:22,760 Speaker 4: the two times I've wanted I went up was a 1769 01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:28,040 Speaker 4: little two times you get hot and you feel you 1770 01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:30,439 Speaker 4: hear the crowd and you know, like it's just you 1771 01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:32,639 Speaker 4: and you just saying, how long can I keep this going? 1772 01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:34,559 Speaker 4: Get to the last right, I get to the last ball, 1773 01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:37,840 Speaker 4: So that is one of the best feelings in the world, 1774 01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:42,080 Speaker 4: especially when you know, like I was the last person 1775 01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:43,559 Speaker 4: to go, so I knew the number I had to hit, 1776 01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:46,680 Speaker 4: and like just that competition, I love it. 1777 01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:47,160 Speaker 3: I love it. 1778 01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:48,840 Speaker 4: I love it so much I'm probably never gonna do 1779 01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:49,200 Speaker 4: it again. 1780 01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:53,120 Speaker 3: When I was in my competition, you're right, I heard I. 1781 01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:55,280 Speaker 3: I tell you, Shaq was right there when I come. 1782 01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:57,799 Speaker 3: You came around to the last time on yourself. 1783 01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:01,200 Speaker 5: So I missed the first one, and then I hit 1784 01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:03,760 Speaker 5: the nine, the last nine straight. So after I hit 1785 01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:07,720 Speaker 5: about two, he began, yeah, yeah, you could just hear 1786 01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:09,280 Speaker 5: but I don't know why. I was like, I could 1787 01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:11,320 Speaker 5: hear him out of everything. You already know you loud, 1788 01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:13,800 Speaker 5: but he was like right there. Then you said, like 1789 01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:16,479 Speaker 5: you can hit the crack on huh. So then I'm 1790 01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:18,519 Speaker 5: knowing like, Okay, I didn't know the score with I 1791 01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:20,280 Speaker 5: thought I had tied it when I when I hit 1792 01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:21,439 Speaker 5: all last, I thought I had tied. 1793 01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:22,000 Speaker 3: When I got to the. 1794 01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:25,519 Speaker 5: Seat, I said, yeah, I said that was two. I said, okay, 1795 01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:28,320 Speaker 5: I didn't credit that. The moneyball was too. I was like, okay, 1796 01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:30,320 Speaker 5: I got that was when. Uh that put me your 1797 01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:32,280 Speaker 5: head a cord for that year, I wanted you know 1798 01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:33,080 Speaker 5: what I'm saying that. 1799 01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:36,720 Speaker 1: I don't feel to be uh top seventy five. We 1800 01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:41,519 Speaker 1: watched the ceremony for the fiftieth Greatest and lead the 1801 01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:45,640 Speaker 1: seventy five Greatest was in there to be part of 1802 01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:50,280 Speaker 1: that next generation of seventy five Greatest us Like I. 1803 01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:52,439 Speaker 4: Mean, sometimes you just stare at the list and that 1804 01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:54,120 Speaker 4: it says enough for me, Like I don't know what 1805 01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:59,840 Speaker 4: it is. Oh oh kareem, I imagine man, like every 1806 01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:03,200 Speaker 4: I can't really put in the words just because like 1807 01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:06,280 Speaker 4: I watched that same ceremony, saw the Doe. I'm like, 1808 01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:09,320 Speaker 4: it's like the ten people I really didn't know. I'm like, 1809 01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:15,360 Speaker 4: but it's amazing just to know, like yeah, from that 1810 01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:18,720 Speaker 4: time and just everything that's happening in between there, and 1811 01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:20,519 Speaker 4: to think about the crop of guys that are still 1812 01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:24,320 Speaker 4: playing you got picked and the guys that just retired, 1813 01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:26,960 Speaker 4: like it's a special group to be a part of. 1814 01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:29,719 Speaker 4: Like that's not even I don't think that does it justice. 1815 01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:32,719 Speaker 4: It's just it's something you never imagine until it happens, 1816 01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:36,680 Speaker 4: and something that every time you think about it or 1817 01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:38,320 Speaker 4: it is brought up, it will always bring the same 1818 01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:41,960 Speaker 4: smile on my face. Because Lee's only been around seventy 1819 01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:43,880 Speaker 4: five years. You think about it, just like you said, 1820 01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:47,120 Speaker 4: like how many players are coming Great Player. 1821 01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:50,960 Speaker 1: Seventy fifth anniversary and they're gonna pick twenty five players? 1822 01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:53,600 Speaker 4: Like what was your thoughts of that? Like, oh, do 1823 01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:55,760 Speaker 4: I got a chance of this? Like that was the 1824 01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:58,080 Speaker 4: first thought. And you got your people in your camp 1825 01:27:58,160 --> 01:27:59,840 Speaker 4: and all that who already started doing the list for. 1826 01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:07,880 Speaker 3: You, Like they got you, bro, they got you in there. 1827 01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:16,679 Speaker 4: Ain't for another month. Man, nervous wreck the whole time. 1828 01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:19,960 Speaker 4: But once when you start thinking about it, it's like, 1829 01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:21,960 Speaker 4: I think I've done enough to get on there, And 1830 01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:26,120 Speaker 4: like until you actually hear hear your name on there, 1831 01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:31,040 Speaker 4: the full appreciation, the appreciation doesn't come because you can 1832 01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:33,519 Speaker 4: think about like the Clay and the guys that are 1833 01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:36,920 Speaker 4: like whatever seventy seven through ninety, Like, yeah, I agree, 1834 01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:40,400 Speaker 4: But it's also like there's so many amazing basketball players 1835 01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:42,760 Speaker 4: and you suit up with and against and all that 1836 01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:44,920 Speaker 4: type of stuff. So it's a special accomplisient. 1837 01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:48,160 Speaker 5: You gotta be excited for what, Like we don't even 1838 01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:50,240 Speaker 5: know what it's gonna be, but you know, All Star 1839 01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:53,080 Speaker 5: is gonna be some grand celebration. I don't know if 1840 01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:56,559 Speaker 5: you're gonna get some jackets or whatever. Y'all jackets might 1841 01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:59,679 Speaker 5: be in store. I think somebody did ask for the measurements. Okay, 1842 01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:04,120 Speaker 5: they gotta get. 1843 01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:04,759 Speaker 3: Some cause. 1844 01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:09,479 Speaker 5: When they go up, you're gonna be going and getting 1845 01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:11,559 Speaker 5: the shrine and it's gonna be that moment. I don't 1846 01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:13,519 Speaker 5: know they're gonna have everybody there or how they're gonna 1847 01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:15,640 Speaker 5: do it, but like that is like to know that 1848 01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:18,960 Speaker 5: you amongst them type of people is unreal, dude. 1849 01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:23,160 Speaker 4: I know, having people be there in person you like 1850 01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:25,439 Speaker 4: you see them on paper is one thing. Seeing like 1851 01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:28,200 Speaker 4: want the same court, that's whole another vibe. So we'll 1852 01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:28,920 Speaker 4: see what happens. 1853 01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:31,960 Speaker 1: How is it, like, you know, y'all go to the 1854 01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:38,080 Speaker 1: championships four out of five years or five hours. Yeah, 1855 01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:42,519 Speaker 1: that's too But how was the rebuild seeing these young 1856 01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:45,240 Speaker 1: guys come in the ain't about bringing a veteran in. 1857 01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:46,280 Speaker 3: Could we still there? 1858 01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:50,439 Speaker 2: It's like about a rebuild, not really a rebuild, but 1859 01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:52,240 Speaker 2: you agree with that. 1860 01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:56,320 Speaker 4: Because it was it was the injury part that took 1861 01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:59,320 Speaker 4: away the core that then forced you into a different 1862 01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:02,320 Speaker 4: kind of situation really quick. For as many you know, 1863 01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:04,360 Speaker 4: good breaks as we have, we had a lot of 1864 01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:06,720 Speaker 4: pad breaks at the end of the run, and you know, 1865 01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:10,960 Speaker 4: obviously Katie's injury and then him leaving. Clay's injury. Havn't 1866 01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:14,000 Speaker 4: you know missed now to you know two years I 1867 01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:18,240 Speaker 4: got broke my hand, missed five months. You know that season, 1868 01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:23,640 Speaker 4: you understand the big picture of you know, it might 1869 01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:25,920 Speaker 4: look different. We still have our same core. If we 1870 01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:28,080 Speaker 4: can just get healthy, we're gonna have a shot. But 1871 01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:30,560 Speaker 4: you don't know how to fill in the gaps, and 1872 01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:34,080 Speaker 4: like you know what it's going to take because especially nowadays, 1873 01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:35,880 Speaker 4: like player moving and all that stuff, and so it's 1874 01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:39,280 Speaker 4: so wild. You know, retooling is pretty hard. But then 1875 01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:42,080 Speaker 4: you get to this season, like, honestly, I didn't think 1876 01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:45,080 Speaker 4: we start off as as hot as we have, you know, 1877 01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:47,560 Speaker 4: because we had like we knew we had what we 1878 01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:50,559 Speaker 4: what we needed, but chemistry takes a while to build. 1879 01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:53,720 Speaker 4: But we've tried to expedict that and now we're in 1880 01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:58,120 Speaker 4: a really good position to implement clay back hopefully get 1881 01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:00,920 Speaker 4: you know, James Wiseman in there. We got some really 1882 01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:02,880 Speaker 4: talented young guys mixed with. 1883 01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:07,080 Speaker 3: The cross looking at everybody said it was over like. 1884 01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:10,280 Speaker 1: I think it helped y'all that y'all kind of needed 1885 01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:14,719 Speaker 1: to get the last couple of years with get older 1886 01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:18,800 Speaker 1: and guys retiring, y'all missing. I feel like, man, y'all 1887 01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:21,040 Speaker 1: got a y'all got a lot to choose from. Y'all 1888 01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:23,599 Speaker 1: got Gary Payton Junior over there, Man, I got Lee 1889 01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:24,240 Speaker 1: over there. 1890 01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:26,080 Speaker 2: Man, y'all got a lot of young talent. 1891 01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:29,640 Speaker 3: What you said earlier, who was messing up? 1892 01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:33,280 Speaker 5: How Gary Payton Junior wasn't the second I'm sorry, How 1893 01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:35,960 Speaker 5: he like, come on bro, like just from up strict 1894 01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:39,000 Speaker 5: me from a defensive standpoint, How he wasn't playing, how 1895 01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:40,760 Speaker 5: he wasn't on team, how he like. 1896 01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:43,840 Speaker 4: I can ask all this questions. He tells you he's 1897 01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:47,960 Speaker 4: gotten better, but I'm asking the same questions because he 1898 01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:51,000 Speaker 4: affects the game. That's all you want people to affect 1899 01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:51,360 Speaker 4: the game. 1900 01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:56,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, not your top five, but your favorite five players, 1901 01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:58,960 Speaker 1: your favorite five, my favorite. 1902 01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:03,360 Speaker 3: Five saying about who you thought was the best my favorite. 1903 01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:09,360 Speaker 4: Five mm hm from we watching the game. 1904 01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:09,960 Speaker 3: It was m j. 1905 01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:18,200 Speaker 4: Hey, Steve Nash, Reggie Miller, and Muggsy was my Like, 1906 01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:23,200 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Pops. Pops then mentioned this on that on 1907 01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:26,400 Speaker 4: that list, But I still can't get over the visual 1908 01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:29,080 Speaker 4: just watching Muggs play like it's still to me, it's 1909 01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:32,760 Speaker 4: just one of the most amazing accomplishments of all time. 1910 01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:36,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you a start bench cut all right, 1911 01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:38,760 Speaker 2: trying to get you know, let's go. 1912 01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:46,080 Speaker 1: Gary Payton, Jason Kid all day, Isaiah Thomas, Oh my god, yeah, 1913 01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:48,439 Speaker 1: start one. We got trade one. Ain't gonna let you cut. 1914 01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:54,400 Speaker 1: No start bench trade Gary, Jon. 1915 01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:59,400 Speaker 4: And you get me in troubles. I'm playing with a son. Yeah, crazy, 1916 01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:09,920 Speaker 4: ask Jakid, Jakid were starting jakidd? Oh my, how you 1917 01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:14,439 Speaker 4: picked between Zeke and GP. You gotta you trade GP 1918 01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:17,679 Speaker 4: and you bench Zeke. That's that's crazy. 1919 01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:20,320 Speaker 3: That's what you want to do. You the one got 1920 01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:24,200 Speaker 3: c GP. This what I like to ask. 1921 01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:26,800 Speaker 5: I know you humble, though, so I don't know what 1922 01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:30,280 Speaker 5: I'm gonna get when you first got some cash, Like 1923 01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:31,680 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, I ain't talking about like 1924 01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:33,840 Speaker 5: all right, I'm about to go, you know, buy a house, 1925 01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:35,320 Speaker 5: and I don't hear about none of that, Like I 1926 01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:38,920 Speaker 5: like right now, Like what did you do when you 1927 01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:39,839 Speaker 5: felt comfortable? 1928 01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:41,559 Speaker 3: Like I got a little something I could, I could, 1929 01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:42,439 Speaker 3: I could, I could. 1930 01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:44,439 Speaker 5: Do something nice for myself? What did the chef do? 1931 01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:46,280 Speaker 5: What does Chef Curry do when you got a little 1932 01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:48,200 Speaker 5: change in his pocket? Little pocketbook money? 1933 01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:53,240 Speaker 4: The car is one thing when you feel confident enough 1934 01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:57,439 Speaker 4: to put your initials and logo and stuff all up 1935 01:33:57,479 --> 01:34:00,439 Speaker 4: in the seats and the rims and the in the 1936 01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:03,479 Speaker 4: bag and the leather and the stitching in his way, 1937 01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:06,600 Speaker 4: and when you do that, that for me was like 1938 01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:09,640 Speaker 4: big time, big time, and then not knowing what I 1939 01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:11,040 Speaker 4: was doing, I sold a car like. 1940 01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:17,160 Speaker 3: A year later that everybody you're getting you're gonna get 1941 01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:17,680 Speaker 3: no money for. 1942 01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:24,200 Speaker 4: Us every time, every time it's a writer passion in 1943 01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:26,519 Speaker 4: the league, remember that, like it yesterday. 1944 01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:29,560 Speaker 5: All right, man, that's been a wrap man. We appreciate 1945 01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:32,559 Speaker 5: Chef Curry. The best shoot on the planet ever. Walking 1946 01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:34,400 Speaker 5: to pull up on us. You know what I'm saying, 1947 01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:39,360 Speaker 5: This was real. We appreciate you had absolutely no fights. 1948 01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:52,120 Speaker 5: Good all right, We want to thank you all for 1949 01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:55,919 Speaker 5: your continued support of the podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, 1950 01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:57,920 Speaker 5: be sure to give us two taps by writing a 1951 01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:01,120 Speaker 5: review and writing five stars wherever you get your podcasts, 1952 01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:03,680 Speaker 5: and make sure to hit that subscribe button so you 1953 01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:06,720 Speaker 5: don't miss an episode. 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