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Speaker 2: I'm Brian Curtiz and I'm Doug Krisner. Here are the

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Speaker 2: stories we're following today.

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Speaker 3: Amazon has been hit with an anti trust lawsuit from

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Speaker 3: the Federal Trade Commission the FTC, alleging that the tech

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Speaker 3: giant monopolized online marketplace services by degrading quality for shoppers

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Speaker 3: and overcharging sellers. Ftcchair Lina Khan is vowing to take action,

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Speaker 3: but stopped short of calling for a breakup of Amazon.

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Speaker 1: Con spoke earlier with Bloomberg.

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Speaker 4: We believe that this lawsuit, if we're successful, will actually

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Speaker 4: entirely restore the promise of free competition. Our free enterprise

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Speaker 4: system is one where companies should be competing on the

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Speaker 4: through illegal tactics.

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Speaker 3: FTC chair Lina Khan. In the meantime, Amazon is arguing

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Speaker 3: that consumers will be the ones that pay the price.

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Speaker 3: They'll see prices go up and product selection come down

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Speaker 2: We go next to artificial and tells open Ai you

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Speaker 2: know it as the creator of chat gpd well. Reportedly,

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Speaker 2: the company is talking to investors about a potential share sale.

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Speaker 2: The Wall Street Journal is saying the sale would give

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Speaker 2: the startup a valuation of between eighty to ninety billion dollars,

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Speaker 2: and that would make open ai one of the most

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Speaker 2: highly valued startups in the world. Here's Bloomberg, said Ludlow.

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Speaker 5: In April, the valuation was around twenty nine billion dollars,

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Speaker 5: So this is a significant jump. But part of what

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Speaker 5: the Wall Street Journal was talking about is something Bloomberg's

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Speaker 5: insider share sale, by the way, not issuing new shares

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Speaker 2: That is Bloomberg's ed Ludlow. Now, separately, we learned today

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Speaker 2: that the Central Intelligence Agency is looking to roll out

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Speaker 3: Brian well Fed Governor Michelle Bowman says that increased rent

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Speaker 3: Bowman spoke Tuesday at a virtual event hosted by the FED.

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Speaker 6: These increased costs and these cost pressures underscore the importance

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Speaker 1: FED Governor Michelle Bowman.

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Speaker 3: She went on to say that rent increases have outstripped

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Speaker 3: In remarks last week, Bowmen signaled that she favors raising

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Speaker 2: Go to Europe, next to where the European Union's investigation

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Speaker 7: This is a company that opened a plant in Germany

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Speaker 2: That is Bloomberg's Craig Trudell. Now, the aim of this

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Speaker 3: Brian Well Ali Baba's logistics armed Chiniow has filed for

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Speaker 8: The Hong Kong Stock Exchange confirmed to thee La ali

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Speaker 1: It at Bookends. There we have a connection.

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Speaker 3: The FTC action on Amazon actually brings to mind what

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Speaker 3: President Biden is backing the w worker demands of a

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Speaker 3: Baxter is tracking this story in others from the nine

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's right, Brian.

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Speaker 10: President Joe Biden out with UAW workers today at a

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Speaker 11: You know, this is a historic moment.

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Speaker 3: Today, the enemy isn't some foreign country miles away.

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Speaker 11: It's corporate greed.

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Speaker 10: And the president banking the workers forty percent wage demand increase.

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Speaker 8: All Street didn't build the country. The middle class built.

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Speaker 3: At Simplify Asset Management, can't wait to hear you simplify

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Speaker 3: some of these complicated inputs into the markets, Michael. So,

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Speaker 14: very little for taking additional risk, either in high yield

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Speaker 14: Some components of the long end are becoming really, really attractive.

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Speaker 14: But I think we both see and are mystified by

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Speaker 13: But then just how do you then square that with

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Speaker 11: Well, I think is actually pretty straightforward.

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Speaker 14: That's exactly why we're seeing those levels of relatively tight

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Speaker 3: Michael, outside of the Magnificent seven, or even if we

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Speaker 3: So where are you seeing, you know, wild enthusiasm or overvalue.

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Speaker 14: Well, I think you actually just described it extraordinarily well, right,

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Speaker 14: which is is that we're actually seeing as an index

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Speaker 14: have worked extraordinarily Well, you're one hundred percent correct in

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Speaker 14: your observation. By the way, I mean, the majority of

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Speaker 14: stocks on a year today basis are now actually down.

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Speaker 14: If you look at something like the Russell three thousand

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Speaker 11: It's actually down, right.

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Speaker 3: really hard to feel like it's about ready to fall

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Speaker 14: So I think you're one hundred percent correct that when

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Speaker 14: but there's also very little growth behind something like that.

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Speaker 14: So trading at eighteen times with a three percent dividend yield,

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Speaker 14: which would be a historically unusual level, it seems to

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Speaker 14: me that you're not actually being particularly well compensated for

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Speaker 14: taking that additional risk of is Cisco actually going to

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Speaker 14: be the continued network, you know, continued preferred network provider,

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Speaker 13: All right, Michael, we're almost out a time, but best

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Speaker 14: I got to tell you one of the craziest things

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Speaker 14: you can get a really attractive yield on CAF right now,

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Speaker 14: And I honestly think that you're reasonably well compensated to

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Speaker 3: All right, Michael, thanks very much. I don't own Cisco,

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Speaker 3: I never owned Cisco. I just like to challenge the guests,

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