1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to brain Stuff production of iHeart Radio. Hey brain Stuff, 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: Lauren Bogabam here and by now, in this coronavirus pandemic, 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: we should all be able to agree about the importance 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: of wearing masks. But way back at the beginning a 5 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: year or so ago, the word wasn't so clear, as 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: researchers and scientists wrestled with new data surrounding this novel virus. 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: What the experts were saying about masks may have been 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: a little confusing, especially as they were trying to reserve 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: the limited supply of medical grade masks for medical professionals 10 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: on the front lines until more could be made. But 11 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: it's now more than a hundred million people have been 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: stricken by COVID nineteen, the disease that springs from this 13 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: coronavirus infection. More than two point two million have died 14 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: the world. Scientists now have enough data, enough proof to 15 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: definitively state masks work. We spoke with Mary Beth Sexton, 16 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: a professor in the Emory University School of Medicines Division 17 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: of Infectious Disease. She said, as frustrating as it is 18 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: when you're in the community and you're getting information and 19 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: it changes. This has actually been a great example of 20 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: how science is supposed to work. You go at the 21 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: best knowledge you have at the time, and as soon 22 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: as you know something different, you let people know, you 23 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: explain it, you change. And that's what has happened here. Now, 24 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: as the virus mutates into different variants, masks are as 25 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: critical as ever, and some people are suggesting doubling up. 26 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: That's right, wearing two masks to keep everyone safe and 27 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: get this pandemic under control. Dr Anthony Fauci, the longtime 28 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, 29 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: said in a White House news briefing on February three, 30 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with people wearing two masks. I often 31 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: myself wear two masks. Can we make a general recommendation 32 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: that has scientific basis yet? No. But when the science 33 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: comes along and tells us that it's better or not, 34 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: then you will see a recommendation being made by the 35 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: CDC or centers for disease control and prevention. But let's 36 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: back up a step. Why damasks work in the first place. 37 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: The severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus two or stars COVE 38 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: two travels through the air, we need masks as one 39 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: measure among many to keep it from spreading. Here are 40 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: three examples of how mask usage has helped curb the 41 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: viruses transmission in real life. Service members who wore masks 42 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: on the U S S. Theodore Roosevelt, which experienced a 43 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: COVID outbreak on board in March, were some less likely 44 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: to be infected than those who did not. A study 45 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: of a d and thirty one clients in the Missouri 46 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: Health Salon showed that none were infected by two stylists 47 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: who had COVID nineteen. Both workers wore masks, as did 48 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: every one of the clients, and during a surge in 49 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: Arizona in the summer of a statewide mask wearing mandate, 50 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: along with limits on large gatherings and more attention to 51 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: social distancing, helped to stabilize transmission rates, which then decreased 52 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: by some sevent as the summer war on. According to 53 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: the CDC, control of the virus through masking works in 54 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: two fairly obvious ways. First, a mask stops those who 55 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: have the virus from spreading it. The second, masks keep 56 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: those without the virus from being infected. As the CDC 57 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: website puts, it. The relationship between source control and personal 58 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: protection is likely complementary and possibly synergistic, so that individual 59 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: benefit increases with increasing community mask use. Physically speaking, though, 60 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: how does a mask stop though wily and extremely tiny virus. 61 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: It's all about getting in the way, the Sexton explained. 62 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: Even though the virus itself is incredibly small, the virus 63 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: doesn't travel by itself. If you are infected with COVID 64 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: and you put the virus out into the environment, it's 65 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: contained within these respiratory particles, and there's a mix of 66 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: what people call droplets and aerosols. Aerosols are a little smaller, 67 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: but even an aerosol is so much bigger than the 68 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: virus itself. I think of those particles that show up 69 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: in slow mo pictures of a call for a sneeze, 70 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: or even just talking, or the way that you can 71 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: see your breath in the air on a cold day. 72 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: If you were infected with COVID, every one of those 73 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:43,119 Speaker 1: particles contain millions of COVID viruses. A mask helps trap 74 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: those particles coming and going. A January article in the 75 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: Medical Journals Cell explained filtering is not seeving out things 76 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: that are too large to pass through holes in the material. Rather, 77 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: air must curve as it flows around into dual, tightly 78 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: packed fibers of the material, like a race car swerving 79 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: around cones of an obstacle course. As the air curves, 80 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: the aerosols that it carries can't make the sharp bends 81 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: and therefore slams into the fibers or they become too 82 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: close to the fibers and stick to them. The type 83 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: of mask, of course, is important, as is how it's worn. 84 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: The CDC recommends a mask that has at least two 85 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: layers of washable, breathable material, that covers both your nose 86 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: and your mouth fully keep that nose in there, and 87 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: that fits snugly around your face without any gaps. A 88 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: Sexton said, there's been a lot of conversation about should 89 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: people wear two masks, should people wear medical grade masks, 90 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: what should people do? And I think that what we 91 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: can get lost in some of that discussion is that 92 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: the most important thing is that everyone wears a mask. 93 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: Some people have already been doubling up in what Fauci 94 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: calls a common sense approach, but new research from the 95 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: CDC published in the agency's February one Morbidity and Mortality 96 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: Weekly report says that either wearing two masks or wearing 97 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: a properly fitted single mask closely on your face does 98 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: prevent the spread of COVID nineteen more than wearing just 99 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: one loosely fitted mask. Sexton explained, if having two masks 100 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: on is actually going to make you have your hands 101 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: on your face more, or if it's uncomfortable and you 102 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: keep moving it and putting it back on, or if 103 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: it's falling off your ear or hanging off your ear 104 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: on a loop, all of those things are counterproductive. If 105 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: that's happening, you should just focus on one that's of 106 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: really good quality and fits you well. If you can 107 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: do two in such a way that actually improves the 108 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: quality or improves the fit, that may make sense. You 109 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: should also wash or sanitize your hands before putting on 110 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 1: your mask or before doing anything else that requires you 111 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: to touch your mask or your face. Don't mess with 112 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: the mask while it's on. Take it off carefully, handling 113 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: only the ear loops or ties, and fold the outside 114 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: edges together that keeps any virus is trapped. Wash it regularly, 115 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: especially if it's wet when you take it off. Also, 116 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: wet masks are less effective when they're on, so if 117 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: yours gets damp, change it out for a spare. And finally, 118 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: if you're fiddling with it too much while wearing it, 119 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: it probably doesn't fit you right, try another one and 120 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: remember that as a February second, masks are required on 121 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: any form of public transportation and in transportation hubs like 122 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: train and bus stations. Today's episode was written by John 123 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: Donovan and produced by Tyler Clay. 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