1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: I'm Royal Oaks. Next time, on Too Many Lawyers, we 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: take on a couple of villains to sort out whether 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: bad stuff is also illegal stuff. George Santos want a 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: seat in Congress by lying to voters, but is that 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: a crime? And Kanye West made it clear he hates 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Jews in England, he go to jail for that. Here 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: in America, did he commit a hate crime? 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If you're actually listening to this right now, 20 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 5: it's miraculous that I was able to figure this out. 21 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 5: While TJ. 22 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: DeSantis is on vacation. 23 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 5: We'll run a little best of episode today. We'll run 24 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 5: back our Michael Bisping interview. That was from the time 25 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 5: when he announced his retirement. Of course, Michael Bisping will 26 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 5: be inducted into the UFC Hall of Fame coming up 27 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 5: July fifth, so we thought that was particularly timely. But 28 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 5: what you're gonna hear right now is the first Ray 29 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 5: long Go minute from April ninth, twenty fifteen. 30 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: I believe that was episode one. 31 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 5: And of course we talk on this show a lot 32 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 5: about having the foresight to add the great Ray long 33 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 5: Go to this program every single week, and he's been 34 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 5: with us probably one hundred and ninety nine out of 35 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 5: the two hundred and one episodes thus far. But I 36 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 5: want you to listen back to the first Ray long 37 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 5: Go minute. You'll certainly hear less cussing out of me, 38 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 5: among other things. But enjoy. Hope everybody has a good week, 39 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 5: Enjoy the fights. Obviously, we'll be back in fine form 40 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 5: Memorial Day Monday, May twenty seven, and we will get 41 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 5: you ready for UFC Fight Night. How he's in Augustovs 42 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 5: and Anthony Smith. We'll talk to you in a week. 43 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 6: You enjoy. 44 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: It's now time for the Ray Longo Minute. 45 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 5: And it is now time for the Ray Longo minute 46 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 5: John Ana Kenny Florian podcast, Episode one of We Hope 47 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 5: is more than two For this podcast, you can find 48 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 5: us on Twitter at annik Florian Pod. 49 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 2: But there's so many great people in the mixed martial 50 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: arts world. 51 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 5: But I always said, if I ever get the opportunity 52 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 5: to do my own podcast, Ray Longo is going to 53 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 5: be a part of it. And he is one of 54 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 5: the best corner men and coaches the sport has ever seen. 55 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 5: And Ray Longo joins us now live from the East Coast. Ray, 56 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 5: thank you so much for joining us. 57 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 2: Man, how you doing no anytime? 58 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 4: Thanks for the great introduction. I really really appreciate that. 59 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: That's a truth, man. I mean, how good is that 60 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 2: frickin voice right there? Are you kidding me? 61 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 5: I mean, a couple of Boston guys hanging out in 62 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 5: LA and all we wanted to do was call our 63 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 5: favorite New Yorkers. So, Ray, obviously you know a lot 64 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 5: going on for you right now in the UFC, of course, 65 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 5: Ali Quinta coming off a big win over Jorge mosfeed All, 66 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 5: and I first want to ask you sort of a 67 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 5: general question when you have a fight like that that's 68 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 5: pretty close or maybe even just a dominant victory in 69 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 5: which your guy wins. What are your habits when it 70 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 5: comes to rewatching the fights. I mean, do you go 71 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 5: home and rewatch the fights right away or not necessarily? 72 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you normally, I always rewatched the fights. 73 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 4: This one in particularly because there was a little controversy 74 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 4: and a lot of people thought, oh, hey one, A 75 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 4: lot of people thought al one, and it almost it 76 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 4: was definitely a very close fight, and I really just 77 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 4: wanted to see for myself. I just got to watch 78 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 4: it the other night because for some reason we forgot 79 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 4: the DVR when we left for Virginia, and it really was. 80 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 4: It was a close fight. But I really looked at 81 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 4: rounds two and three, and of course I'm gonna be biased, 82 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 4: but I really thought, al if anything significant happened in 83 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 4: rounds two or three, I thought it was Aya Quinta. 84 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 4: And you know, at the end of the day, man, 85 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 4: that kid tried to finish fights. And I think it's 86 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 4: a loss for Masterell either way, because if he wants 87 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 4: to be a champion, he showed no characteristics of just 88 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 4: going for it. And you know, the Big Boss, he 89 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 4: likes when you finish fights. And I know Kenny used 90 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 4: to make make his thing. You know, I finished, and 91 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 4: he did finish fights. I think that's what people loved 92 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 4: about Kenny. And I think this kid really really tried 93 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 4: to push that fight. And whoever won or lost that fight, 94 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 4: it was a close fight. I agree with what the 95 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,119 Speaker 4: two judges said, and you know, I'm sure the people 96 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 4: had disagreed, but I thought he pushed out that fight, right. 97 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 7: Thank you, my man. First of all, great, great talking 98 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 7: to you. 99 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 8: And you know, what did you think about you know, 100 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 8: obviously Al was very upset, and did you talk to 101 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 8: him after about what he said to the fans? You know, 102 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 8: I know he was you know, listen for anyone who's 103 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 8: prepared for a fight, so much pride, so many hours 104 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 8: go into preparing for a fight, and you worked up him. Mean, 105 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 8: the kid fought his ass off, you know, came back 106 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 8: from a tough first round and to hear fans boot, 107 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 8: I know he was heartbroken. 108 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 7: But did you talk to him about what he said after? 109 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 4: Uh? You know what, Look, I think I think it's 110 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 4: a characteristic of being from New York. I mean, we 111 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 4: wear our hearts on our sleeves. I thought it was 112 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 4: a genuine personality that he really you know, you know, 113 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 4: fought his air so often. I think what you saw 114 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 4: was was his self expression, nothing scripted, no bullshit. This 115 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 4: is how I feel, and that's how we articulated it. 116 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 4: And I think, you know, people really respond to that 117 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 4: because it was a genuine emotion. It was no bullshit. 118 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 4: Nobody wrote the lines for him. That's what he felt, 119 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 4: that's what he gave. And you know it's it's coincidental. 120 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 4: And I'm on with YouTube guys because I feel like 121 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 4: in the last week I had two of my fighters 122 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 4: terrified of both arsnifying poor John Anak in the ring 123 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 4: and then poor Kenny's gonna listen to Wideman's first date story. 124 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 7: Did you see that ring? It was unbelievable. 125 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 4: Let me tell you something. The look on both of 126 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 4: your faces were similar, and I got to tell you, 127 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 4: I'm gonna apologize for the both of them. I think 128 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 4: it was poor Kenny Flory. 129 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 3: You might never be the. 130 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 7: Same I'm having I'm having nightmare last week. 131 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, you might never throw anything in a Transcanica. And 132 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 4: that's a true story. That's not the first time I 133 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 4: heard it. 134 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 8: I just hope I don't have a daughter. That's you know, 135 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 8: Oh my god, I'm believable that. 136 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 4: That was a classic. But that's what you got to 137 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 4: love about him. He's telling the story. He's not sugarcoating 138 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 4: nothing out sugar coat nothing. And they both you know, 139 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 4: that's who they are, that's you know, that's again it's 140 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 4: a true form of self expression. And Wideman's out holding 141 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 4: back on the story. I mean, it's it's it's just 142 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 4: all good stuff. These guys are great guys to be around. 143 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 4: They truly work their rasses off. And uh, you know, 144 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 4: getting back to your original question, I mean, after the fight, 145 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 4: said out, I had you win the second, the second 146 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 4: and third round, you know, try to keep it under control. 147 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 4: I mean that that was really it. Do your interviews, 148 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 4: you know, man of you know, I want you to 149 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 4: be a professional. I don't mind you expressing yourself, but definitely, 150 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 4: you know, you have to talk to the press. I 151 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 4: think it's part of the job. I mean, it's what 152 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 4: those guys get paid to do. Good of bad, and 153 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 4: he did. He really responded well and and it's working 154 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 4: out great for him. I think he he probably you know, 155 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 4: has another ten thousand followers because of his his speech. 156 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 4: And unfortunately I didn't want John Adak to beat I 157 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 4: was ready to jump in John if anything happened, you know, 158 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 4: I had your back. But yeah, so, I mean it 159 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 4: was like a genuine response. But I still want him 160 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 4: to do some interviews and to go to the press 161 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 4: conference and to just learn how to deal with that. 162 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 4: And that's all part of the growth of being a 163 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 4: professional athlete. You got to take the good with the 164 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 4: bed and you know, let the people know what you felt. 165 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 4: You were You were sincerely hurt, and I think it 166 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 4: was such an honest expression of emotions from that kid day. 167 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 4: I think that's why we love him. And you know what, 168 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 4: most of the fighters that you know with tweeting have 169 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 4: him winning the fights. Who cares what anybody says, it's 170 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 4: you're there. I mean, if I want to hear criticism, 171 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 4: I want to hear it from a fight enough from 172 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 4: an armchair general at sitting back and you know, pontificating 173 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 4: as to you know, who landed more jabs? Bullshit the 174 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 4: fighter sword at El's way from what I could read 175 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 4: on Twitter. And that's that's really I think what he 176 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 4: should hang his head on. 177 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know, and Stan and I thought it 178 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 5: was a close fight or call reflected that. I think 179 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 5: what surprised me. Ray was the fact that this was 180 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 5: a very pro I aquint to crowd. So normally when 181 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 5: you have that type of crowd reaction after a decision, 182 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 5: it's because the guy they were rooting for doesn't get 183 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 5: the decision. So I think maybe that triggered part of 184 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 5: the emotion. And now because here he had this seemingly 185 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 5: supportive crowd, and then when he wins the decision, which 186 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 5: was a very close fight according to most observers, there 187 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 5: was just this avalanche of booze. So I think we 188 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 5: were all just sort of caught off going by that reaction. 189 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 4: You know, I think quite hate to have people. You know, 190 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 4: it's funny. I was I was fighting two fights because 191 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 4: my wife is cupid, so I had my in law 192 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 4: was in My wife routinly against that fight, so was 193 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 4: who was pretty tough. But she she said there was 194 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 4: a lot of Spanish people she was saying around, So 195 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 4: I think he had his face share of support for sure. 196 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 8: Uh. Ray, You know there was one judge obviously, Doug 197 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 8: Crosby there. You know, there's been some talk about you know, 198 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 8: you guys having a history or whatever. You know, first 199 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 8: of all, are you surprised that he got the nod 200 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 8: to judge the fight, and were you aware that he 201 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 8: was going to judge the fight prior to it going down? 202 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 4: Now, well, I was informed maybe an hour or two before. 203 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 4: But I mean, I want to I really want to 204 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 4: make this point clear. I really don't have a problem 205 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 4: with I'm not saying I like him as a judge, 206 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 4: But there was a girl in the gym who had 207 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 4: a court order against this guy for three years, reviewed 208 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 4: and executed by two separate judges. Right he wrote a 209 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 4: letter to the gym, had his nephew drop it off 210 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 4: about what a piece of crap I am. I don't 211 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 4: know what I'm doing as a coach. I'm this, I'm 212 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 4: not Why would he put his this in that share 213 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 4: to judge that fight? That is the thing has nothing 214 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 4: to do with me and him. I don't care if 215 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 4: he scored that fight for ally at Quinta. I really 216 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 4: want to make this point, really as strong as I can. 217 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 4: He should not. He should have refused himself from that position. 218 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 4: He really should have. I mean, he knows that there's 219 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 4: some issues there. Why would you do that. I wouldn't 220 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 4: want to judge one of his fights. I'd have to 221 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 4: say I can, you know, so the fact that he 222 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 4: got in there, I think there needs to be some 223 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 4: reform on the judges. And you know, do you have 224 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 4: a problem with this guy? Is this that you have 225 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 4: a relationship? Are you eating dinner with this guy? I 226 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 4: think even the opponents want to know, you know. I mean, 227 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 4: I don't want you know, there's a there's a girl 228 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 4: in my gym who's a judge for New Jersey. I 229 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 4: wouldn't let her near any of my fighters. Don't you 230 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 4: If you ever anything, you recuse yourself. And that said, 231 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 4: bottom line, it's not I don't think there's a trainer around. 232 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't want my guy fighting somebody who 233 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 4: you know, this guy got in the movie part or 234 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 4: he's been talking to you know, via text message. I 235 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 4: just think it's unfair, has nothing to do. He's made 236 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 4: at me because I don't want him judging my fighters fights. 237 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 4: Because of those reasons. I don't care what this guy 238 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 4: does has nothing to do with that. I don't care 239 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 4: what the score of the fight was. He should have 240 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 4: never been in that position. 241 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, happy to give you a platform to make 242 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 5: that very important point and hopefully it will affect change 243 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 5: going forward. I only have a few more minutes with you, Ray, 244 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 5: I do want to ask you about Chris Widman. When 245 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 5: did you realize that that you might have something special 246 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 5: and a potential UFC champion on your hands. 247 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 4: I mean it really look this is true. I think 248 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 4: they've said it before. I mean the second I mean 249 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 4: it was within months of him entering into the gym. 250 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 4: He was such a prodigy, and he just took to 251 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 4: everything that he was being showed so quick. And not 252 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 4: only that, it's not only physically. Mentally, he was right 253 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 4: there the way he coaches people, the way he understands it. 254 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 4: So when you have a guy that's physically gifted and 255 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 4: mentally gifted, that that's a real tough combo to be, 256 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 4: you know. And I think I knew that in a 257 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 4: real short period of time. I never saw anything like him. 258 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 4: I really didn't at the time I saw him. I 259 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 4: was like, you know, even for a wrestling guy. The 260 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 4: first day I saw him on his back, Tenny, I mean, 261 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 4: his legwork was phenomenal, beautiful lips. I mean what wrestler 262 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 4: even wants to go to was back. Yeah, I mean 263 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 4: this guy had juje I mean this is early on. 264 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 4: I mean he was he was phenomenal, so I did 265 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 4: know it early on. And again he's a strong minded guy, 266 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 4: very big for the weight class, great reach, great mind. 267 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 4: I mean, I can't say enough about Chris Widman. He's 268 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 4: I think he's and he's proven it. 269 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 2: Too, ye Ray. 270 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 5: Obviously, one of the more anticipated fights here in twenty 271 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 5: fifteen is Chris Widman against Vtor Belfort. But Vtor received 272 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 5: a lot of criticism for allegedly not accepting an interim 273 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 5: title fight against Gaegard Musasi in Los Angeles. Not a 274 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 5: lot of people understand sort of the backstory that maybe 275 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 5: Henry Hoofed had a role in not having Vtor accept 276 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 5: that fight because he was going to be unable to 277 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 5: train him during key point. But what was your reaction 278 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 5: when v toor ultimately decided to wait for Chris. 279 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 4: I mean, I was happy that there was no interim belt. 280 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 4: I don't think, you know, I don't want to see 281 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 4: Chris lose a belt just because he got injured, you know, 282 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 4: trying to do the right thing and working hard. So 283 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 4: I was happy that the fight's going to go down 284 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 4: the way it was. I don't think they should have 285 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 4: stripped Chris of his time. I don't think they should 286 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 4: have been an interim title. And I'm happy that Chris 287 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 4: gets to prove, you know, that he's the champion at 288 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 4: one to eighty five against Beetle Bell for it, and 289 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 4: you know, he didn't take to fight. Nothing happened to him, 290 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 4: and I think it's it's all good. 291 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 5: You know, we've seen sort of an evolution of the 292 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 5: corner man in modern day mixed martial arts. There are 293 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 5: so many great ones like yourself, but I think unfortunately 294 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 5: too many that really aren't great, and they're not clear, 295 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 5: they're not concise, there's no directive in between rounds. Obviously, 296 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 5: you've gotten a lot of accolades for your ability to 297 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 5: sort of, you know, compel your fighters to do what 298 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 5: you want them to do. Is there anybody else in 299 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 5: the corners that you maybe admire from afar, that you 300 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 5: feel like, really do a nice job in those critical 301 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 5: minutes in between rounds. 302 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,239 Speaker 4: There's a bunch. I don't want to start going through everybody. 303 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 4: Leave somebody out. But I used to like Kenny's guy, 304 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 4: Mark Delagratti. Obviously me and Mark are good friends, but 305 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 4: I thought Mark was always passionate in the corner and 306 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 4: I always thought he gave very good advice, and there's 307 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 4: been a couple other guys I have to think. But 308 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 4: you know, I love how Via Mendez. I like guys 309 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 4: that just tell the truth. That's really what it comes 310 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 4: down to, really tell the people what they we I 311 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 4: don't know what fight it was. I think Matt calls up, 312 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 4: He goes, why are they telling this guy it's urgent? 313 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 4: I'm not sure if it was. It might actually have 314 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 4: been the look Laft fight. I'm not really sure if 315 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 4: there was a sense of urgency in that corner. He 316 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 4: was definitely down four to one, but I'm not sure 317 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 4: if it was that one or some other fight that 318 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 4: he pulled. He goes, I can't believe there's just no urgency, 319 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 4: Like there comes a time when you know, even with al, 320 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 4: I mean, I remember in the second round of the 321 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 4: Moscow I can't believe this guy is letting us back 322 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 4: in the fight. I mean, you hurt the guy in 323 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 4: the first round at the end, not at the beginning. 324 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 4: At the end. You don't come out guns blazing at 325 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 4: the beginning of the second round. He let out right 326 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 4: back in that fight and at the you know, in 327 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 4: between rounds. We don't do this down to the third 328 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 4: round period. I mean, you got to go for it. 329 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 4: We want you pushing, but this is it and he 330 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 4: went for me, and I thought he responded beautifully to that. 331 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 4: You know, But you know, I think I just like 332 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 4: guys that lay it on the line and they're honest. 333 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 4: That's what I look for in the corner and can 334 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 4: they motivate the guy the right time. But I think 335 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 4: Walkers to do a great job with with Kenny and 336 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 4: everybody else he. 337 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 5: Was training, Ray Longo joining us live on the John 338 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 5: Anna Kenny Florian podcast. We want to quickly before we 339 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 5: let you go, go to Brandon from Oregon Online. 340 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 9: One. 341 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 2: Brandon, you have a question for Ray Longo. 342 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 7: Go ahead. 343 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 10: First, I just like to say I really appreciate your cornering. 344 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 10: I actually will go back on fight Pass and watch 345 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 10: your guys' fights and listen to just your sayah in 346 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 10: the corner because that's fucking Oh sorry, I don't know 347 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 10: if was the square, it's gold. And then my question 348 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 10: for you is outside of the fighters that you train, 349 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 10: who are like three of the top stand up fighters 350 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 10: in the USC. 351 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you obviously, Anderson Silva has to be 352 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 4: one of them. I liked him. I like Donald Saroni, 353 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 4: and I like I really enjoy watching Machina fight. 354 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 5: Hey, Brandon, thanks so much for calling in. Ray, I'm 355 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 5: gonna let you go on this. Are you a big 356 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 5: New York sports fan? And if so, what is your 357 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 5: favorite New York sports team? 358 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 4: Listen, I'm as of this point my mind, I actually 359 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 4: am just on uh on mixed Mort's loss. But when 360 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 4: I was younger, I was a huge giant fan used Nick, 361 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 4: huge Nick fan. And I'm talking about Lawrence Taylor, Harry Carson, 362 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 4: you know Banks. I mean, that's about the last time 363 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 4: I followed football, believe it or not. Yeah, and uh, 364 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 4: you know basketball, you know, Frasier Willis Reed, all those guys. 365 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 4: I mean, that's kind I know I'm dating myself in 366 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 4: giving away my age, but I really used to love 367 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 4: love sports back then. And uh, you know, I really 368 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 4: just really focused too much on not too much, but 369 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 4: I focused a lot on MMA, and I luckily it's 370 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 4: paid off for me. But uh but yeah, that's that's 371 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 4: basically it. I used to love football, baseball, basketball. You know, 372 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 4: it was at Yankee Stadium a hundred times watching playoff 373 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 4: games when I was a kid. 374 00:16:59,160 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 7: Yeah. 375 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 4: Well, that good stuff and that's it, though, but I 376 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 4: have as of recently, I'm a little I'm a little 377 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 4: remiss in my uh being a fan of some of 378 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 4: the teams. I mean, I love them. I watch if 379 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 4: they get in the playoffs. I'm always been watching. But 380 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 4: up until that point, i'm a little I'm a little 381 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 4: uh caught up in the m m A community. 382 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 8: Ray, don't don't apologize for that. I'm the same way, man, 383 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 8: So I'm right there, and I don't think you're I 384 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 8: don't think your fighters are complaining about it either, Jenny. 385 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 4: I don't want to say anything, but the last baseball 386 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 4: thing I remember was bucking a kicking that bullet. 387 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 7: Well, oh wow, you there. 388 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 4: I think that's the last memory of it. Stritsky fan. 389 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 2: If that makes you feel, yeah, we appreciate that. 390 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 5: Now, my brothers won't even engage me in Boston Red 391 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 5: Sox talk anymore because they think it's all UFC all 392 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 5: the time, and they don't think I know what I'm 393 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 5: talking about anymore. So I feel you're paying Hey, Ray, longo, 394 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 5: thank you so much for the time as always, and 395 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 5: really appreciate you being a part of this podcast. 396 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 2: Moving forward and we'll talk to you in a couple 397 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 2: of weeks. Man, thanks so much. 398 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 4: Hey, I'm very I'm very excited for two guys that 399 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 4: are truly gentleman of this sport and a passion of 400 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 4: what they do, and it shines through when they work. 401 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 4: And I can't wait to see you guys just do 402 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 4: better and better. 403 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 7: Right you're the man. Send Matt Sarah hug for us. 404 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 5: I will do all right, way long ago, joining us 405 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 5: live on the Anakin Florian podcast. That's a good man 406 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 5: right there, and you know we like him. If we're 407 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 5: letting a New York guy on this podcast between a 408 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 5: couple of Bostony, I'm not going very far. I'm in 409 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 5: a rush. It's too uncomfortable. Sometimes I just forget. Don't 410 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 5: kid yourself. There's no such thing as a good excuse 411 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 5: for not buckling up. If you've used any of these 412 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 5: excuses or any others, you're putting yourself at risk of 413 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 5: injury or death. In twenty seventeen alone, more than ten 414 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 5: thousand people were unbuckled when they were killed and crashes. 415 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 5: That's fifty one percent of people killed in motor vehicle 416 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 5: crashes that were not wearing seatbelts, no matter what kind 417 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 5: of vehicle you drive, wearing your seatbelt is the best 418 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 5: defense in a crash. Even when you sit in the 419 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 5: back seat, you still need to buckle up. That goes 420 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 5: for when you're riding in taxis and use ride sharing 421 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 5: services too. Cops are also on the lookout and writing tickets, 422 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 5: So why take the risk. In twenty seventeen alone, seatbelts 423 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 5: save nearly fifteen thousand lives. So do the smart thing 424 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 5: and buckle up every trip, day or night. Click it 425 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 5: or ticket. Now joining us the former UFC middleweight champion, 426 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 5: one of the greatest to ever do it. The news 427 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 5: broke on his podcast Believe You Me Michael Bisping officially 428 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 5: announcing his retirement, and the great Michael Bisping now joins 429 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 5: us and Mike, we are so thrilled to have you 430 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 5: for even just five minutes today. But Dude, the outpouring 431 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 5: of love from the MMA community after you announced this 432 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 5: news on your podcast has been a site to behold, 433 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 5: and I'm not sure ten years ago you thought that 434 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 5: it would go this way when you retired. We just 435 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 5: wanted to say off the top, you deserve every goddamn 436 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 5: tweet sense your way, and we're very happy that it 437 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 5: went down like this. 438 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 9: Hey, what's tup you guys? 439 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 6: First of all, yeah, you're absolutely right. I mean it's 440 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 6: kind of crazy. Yeah, the message is the support. It's 441 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 6: just been insane, it really has. And I'm just truly 442 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 6: honestly blown away by everything. 443 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 9: Yeah it's weird, you know, I retire and then finally. 444 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 6: You get all this over other's love and positivity and 445 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 6: I'm just I'm really touched. 446 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 9: I'm really blown away. It's incredible. 447 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 6: Lost for words, which isn't often that you'll hear me 448 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 6: say that, as I'm sure you know, but yeah, definitely 449 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 6: lost for words. And I want to take this opportunity 450 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 6: to thank everybody. My wife, first and foremost. She was 451 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 6: always in the corner, always believed in me right from 452 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 6: day one. If it wasn't for her, we wouldn't be 453 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 6: having this conversation right now. 454 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 9: And that's a fact. My parents, my dad. 455 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 6: My dad always supported me above everything, drove me all 456 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 6: over the country as a child, been to every single 457 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 6: one of my professional fights, my dad, you know, everyone 458 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 6: in the UK or my friends, and of course I 459 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 6: got to give a special mention to my coaches, Jason Carillo, 460 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 6: Graty Think, Darren Morris. There's a few other people over 461 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 6: the years as well. They know who they are. But yes, 462 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 6: since I said it yesterday on my podcast, I am, 463 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 6: I am blown away, I'm I'm chuched. It's yeah, I'm 464 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 6: lost of words. And thank you, thank you to everybody 465 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 6: that you know said the nice comments. 466 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 8: Well, it's hard to follow your career and not have 467 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 8: respect for you. Man, You've done some amazing things things 468 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 8: in and out of the octagon. I know you've been 469 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 8: thinking about this decision for a very long time. I 470 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 8: know it was an easy thing for you. Do you 471 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 8: have a plan moving forward of what you're going to 472 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 8: be doing? Is coaching in your future? I know you 473 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 8: you really enjoy doing acting. What what are the plans 474 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 8: for Michael Bisbas Yes, to. 475 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 9: Be honest, I'm very very busy. Can you see me? Okay, yeah, perfectly, okay, 476 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 9: yeah yeah. Unfortunately, then you see how shitty that looks, 477 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 9: you know. 478 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 6: The the the the eyeball was definitely but one of 479 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 6: the reasons why I retired. So and now I'm retired, 480 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 6: I can get these fakes and hopefully not walk around 481 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 6: looking like a fucking cyclope. 482 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 9: There's the reality of the situation. 483 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, tons of things going on outside of the octagon 484 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 6: that I'm very excited about. I'm involved with the company 485 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 6: called play Line. I'm out here in Connecticut right now 486 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 6: attending some big meetings. I'm involved the company called Timmy Coyn. 487 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 6: I've got UFC gyms, and of course I do a 488 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 6: lot of acting as well. 489 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 9: The acting is where I'm putting a lot of my energy. 490 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 6: I've got a couple of big movies coming out next year, 491 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 6: got a movie coming out soon cat Triple Threat. So 492 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 6: you know, I'm doing well in that side of things. 493 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 6: Fighting has been an amazing platform for me. I am 494 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 6: a fighter at heart. That's what I do, That's what 495 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 6: I love to do. That's who I am, that's my identity. 496 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 6: And I still still, you know, just saying it makes 497 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 6: me sad. 498 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 9: You know. Dany just called me before and he said, 499 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 9: is this true what I'm hearing? 500 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 6: And I was like, I almost wanted to go back 501 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 6: on it, you know, and trying to dig myself out. 502 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 9: Of that tunnel, you know what I mean. 503 00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 6: I'm like, well, I don't know, maybe maybe I'll I 504 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 6: truly will. I have achieved much more than I ever 505 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 6: possibly dreamed of through mixed martial arts. I've made some 506 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 6: amazing friends, some incredible friendships. I've changed as a person. 507 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 6: I've grown as a person. I've fought all over the world. 508 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 6: I've given my family a good life, which is why 509 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 6: I did this. I left Skul at sixty with not 510 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 6: a lot of options, you know, and this has provided 511 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 6: me with a platform to really make something of myself 512 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 6: and reached my full stability. You know, I'm here now, 513 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 6: I'm in both with these different businesses that would have 514 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 6: never happened. People would have given me a shot. You know, 515 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 6: I've been able to open doors. So I'm grateful for everything, 516 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 6: Thankful to the UFC, Thankful for the friendships have formed. 517 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 9: And yeah, that's about it, I guess. You know. 518 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 6: It's very very sad seeing all these messages coming on 519 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 6: Twitter and things like that. 520 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, it was really sad. It was really sad. 521 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 6: I've sat at the bar yesterday just having a quiet 522 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 6: beer by myself, and I could have almost shed a 523 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 6: tear honestly. 524 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 9: So yeah, and. 525 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 6: Who knows, maybe there'll be a here a to you 526 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 6: along the way yet. But it's still very raw, so 527 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 6: to speak. But uh, yeah, it sucks. It's sud You've. 528 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 5: Just made such a profound impact. My twin brother couldn't 529 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 5: give a rip about mixed martial arts and called me 530 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 5: right away. I mean, you really have just had such 531 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 5: an influence I think on a lot of UFC fans 532 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 5: and American UFC fans too, a lot of whom may 533 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 5: be not unlike you, hate me early right, they didn't 534 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 5: like you, and they really grew to love you and 535 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,719 Speaker 5: respect you because you did it cleanly. And I just 536 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 5: think that the outpouring of respect is something that that 537 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 5: you deserved. And as I sort of set off the top, 538 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 5: there was a time Mike where maybe it. 539 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 2: Wasn't going to play out this way. 540 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 5: And the fact that you capped this whole thing with 541 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 5: the with the UFC championship is is just incredible, man, 542 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 5: it really is. 543 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 9: Well, thank you very much, guys. 544 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 6: You know I I you know, listen, you know me, 545 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 6: I'm not the deepest, most profound person, but I guess 546 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 6: you know, I'm living proof to anybody with a dream 547 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 6: that's willing to put the hard work in can achieve 548 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 6: what they want to. You know, I mean, I want 549 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 6: I tell my children this all the time, and any 550 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 6: young kids listening, any aspiring martial artists, any aspiring aspiring artists, actors, businessmen, 551 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,959 Speaker 6: whatever it is. If you've got a dream, you've got 552 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 6: a vision, and you're willing to put the hard work 553 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 6: in and make the sacrifices, you can do anything you 554 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 6: want to in this life. Jesus Christ and I have 555 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 6: living proof of that. Everybody wrote me off. Everyone said 556 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 6: I couldn't do it, everyone said I wasn't good enough. 557 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 6: I started doing this when Emma in England. People hadn't 558 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 6: even heard of it, you know. But I had a dream, 559 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 6: I had a vision, and you know I made the 560 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 6: most of it. So listen, if I can do it, 561 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 6: anyone can do it in their chores and field. 562 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 9: So you know, dream bigger, ladies and gentlemen. That's what 563 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 9: I did. 564 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 6: I always had my goals, my eyes set on this target, 565 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 6: and I achieved it. 566 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 8: So yeah, you have the opportunity to sit next to 567 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 8: me on the desk. 568 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 6: I mean, hey, listen, that is high my life on 569 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 6: my career, Kenny, sitting talking to you and you know, 570 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 6: getting fashioned hearing you're just so hit into greatness. 571 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 9: It's amazing. 572 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 8: At the time that other stuff you did, I guess 573 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 8: UFC Champ whatever, Ultimate Fighter Champ, that those are cool too. 574 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no bad, no bad, well, uh, total inspiration. Man. 575 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 5: I know Hollywood is calling, but as I've said to 576 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 5: you privately, I hope to see you to my right 577 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 5: calling fights at some point in time. Man, I'd put 578 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 5: you up against any TV analysts that we have and 579 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 5: you know that we look forward to your UFC Hall 580 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 5: of Fame induction whenever that goes down. Michael Bisbing, congratulations 581 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 5: to you, to the family, and hopefully you guys can 582 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 5: take some time to enjoy this decision because you deserve. 583 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 9: Thanks guys, I really appreciate it. 584 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 6: Keeping the good work on the podcast, and once again 585 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 6: just want to say, you know, thank you to everyone 586 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 6: to supporting me along the way, everyone in the UK 587 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 6: and around. 588 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 9: The world that supported me. 589 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 6: If it wasn't for that support, you know again, I 590 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 6: wouldn't have achieved achieved half of what I have done. 591 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 6: So thank you to everybody. It's bits and sweet. Thanks 592 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 6: for all the kind messages, and thanks to my wife Chilled Jim, 593 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 6: love you all. And yeah it's a sad day for me, 594 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 6: but it's a necessary day. 595 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 7: It's well deserved. 596 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 4: Man. 597 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,239 Speaker 7: Congratulations and safe travels out there. Hope to see us soon. 598 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 9: Dude, jeers, guys, keep it up. 599 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 2: All the best now with us on the guest line. 600 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 5: One of the best lightweights in the world, who nine 601 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 5: days ago finished Anthony Showtime Pettis and what was his 602 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 5: third UFC main event, Dustin Pourier with us live in Louisiana. Dustin, 603 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 5: appreciate your time today, man. How's it going going good man. 604 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 8: Just. 605 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 3: Getting back to my house from New Orleans. Watched the 606 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 3: Saints game. 607 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw that you were at the Saints game yesterday. 608 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 5: You stayed for that whole thing. They were down a 609 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 5: couple scores late, but came back and one in overtime. 610 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 5: I believe. 611 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. 612 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 3: Man, a lot of people were leaving, the stands started 613 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 3: getting empty, and then we came back. It was awesome. Yeah, 614 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 3: I stay for the whole thing. Good. 615 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 5: So you've won fourteen UFC fights, but only a handful 616 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 5: of times you've been able to go home and celebrate 617 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 5: a win with your daughter there. I know every UFC 618 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 5: win has got to be sweet in its own right, 619 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 5: but any extra emotion triggered for you now that you're 620 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 5: fighting with that sense of purpose behind it as well. 621 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, for sure, man, you know I'm really focused 622 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 3: on being a smarter fighter and taking less damage throughout 623 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 3: training camps, taking less damage and fights. You know, I 624 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 3: it's a different I'm fighting for a lot of different, 625 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 3: different reasons. 626 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 4: Now. 627 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, I always say like, as a commentator, there's nothing 628 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 5: like coming home from one of these trips to China 629 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 5: to see your kids. I couldn't even imagine like winning 630 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 5: a fight and getting to walk in the door and 631 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 5: hug your daughter. But you know, we wanted to have 632 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 5: you on today because in this current UFC landscape, I 633 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 5: think too often it's just like onto the next show, 634 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 5: and it doesn't leave a lot of time to acknowledge 635 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 5: and appreciate what has happened so arguably the biggest win 636 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 5: of your career, not all that long ago. I mean, 637 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 5: how did you assess the fight relative to your expectations 638 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 5: going in? 639 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 3: You know, man, this fight kind of unsolded the way 640 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 3: we thought it would. We thought be able to get 641 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 3: him down on the fence. We thought, uh, he would 642 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 3: kick less if I stayed in his face. It really 643 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 3: went smooth. I knew he's been working on his wrestling 644 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 3: and his and his uh you know, counter wrestling. But 645 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 3: I knew once I got him down, I felt like 646 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 3: I was going to be able to write him out. 647 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 3: He turned into my guard a few times when I 648 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 3: had the body triangle, which I was you know, was 649 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 3: pretty impressive, and he ended up getting back on top 650 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 3: a few times. We knew he had a very active guard, 651 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,239 Speaker 3: so we were you know, I was prepared for that. 652 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 3: I knew he was going to be NonStop throwing up 653 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 3: submissions and uh, really, like I said, minute unfolded the 654 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 3: way we really thought it would. Well, I really. 655 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 8: Couldn't have gone any better. Man, What does this do 656 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 8: for your confidence? Not only did you beat a former 657 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 8: champion and Anthony Pettis, but you finished. 658 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 3: Him, right. I mean, I'm confident, man, I feel like 659 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 3: I could beat anybody in the world. But I just 660 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 3: need to show up and be prepared and just have 661 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 3: fun out there. I thought I was going to finish him. 662 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 3: I just, you know, twenty five minutes between two guys 663 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 3: like me and him, I didn't think it was going 664 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 3: to go that long. You know, I knew somebody was 665 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 3: gonna get finished, and I really thought it was gonna 666 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 3: be him. I thought I was gonna knock him out 667 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 3: on the seat. 668 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 8: Honestly, Uh, you know how frustrated are you right now 669 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 8: with with Connor McGregor the fact that you know, now 670 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 8: it seems like he's probably not going to fight for 671 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 8: another maybe six months or longer. You know that the 672 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 8: division kind of seems like it's being held up a 673 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 8: little bit. You know, you're one of the top contenders 674 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 8: out there right now. Is it frustrating? And what what 675 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 8: can you do about? Is there anything the fighters can 676 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 8: do about this to make sure that the champion defends 677 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 8: his belt? 678 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 3: Man, I'm not sure what the fighters can do, but 679 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 3: I'd like to see it clear it up. And you know, 680 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 3: it's really muddy waters man. The fight between Edson and 681 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 3: kadieb it's going to help out. But Tony needs to 682 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 3: unify that belt. You know, I don't like the interim champion. 683 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 3: I think there needs to be one champion and then 684 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 3: you know, Justin and Eddie going to fight. That's going 685 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 3: to clear it up a little bit. A lot of 686 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 3: the top guys are booked right now. I mean, Nate 687 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 3: Diez is number six. He hasn't flowed in the lightweight 688 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,719 Speaker 3: division in years. So I don't know what's going on, 689 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 3: but I think these next few months it'll it'll start unfolding. 690 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 3: But as far as Connor man, is he gonna fight 691 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 3: at fifty five? Is he going to box again? What's 692 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 3: going on? Something needs to happen. 693 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 8: Do you think it would be right for the UFC 694 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 8: to strip them and just make Tony ferguson the champ? 695 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. I'd hate to see a 696 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 3: guy get stripped of the belt. You know, the guy 697 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 3: earned it, But what are some of the past stuff 698 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 3: they've done with other champions who haven't defended in over 699 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 3: a year. You know, I'd go off of that. If 700 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 3: they've stripped people before for not defending in eighteen months 701 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 3: or whatever it's going to be, you know, then maybe 702 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 3: take the belt from We got guys working and you know, 703 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 3: trying to get that goal. 704 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 5: So you did your camp obviously at American Top Team 705 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 5: here in South Florida. But was this the first fight 706 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 5: since you moved back to Louisiana or the second one? 707 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 3: This was uh, my first fight back, my first full 708 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 3: camp going to Florida with you know, just packing my 709 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 3: gear and my family and renting a place and staying 710 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 3: there for twelve weeks. This was my first time doing it, 711 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 3: and I got to say, man, it was pretty smooth, 712 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 3: and it's nice at this point in my career, you know, 713 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 3: thirty six fights in to have a little bit of 714 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 3: separation between everyday life and training camp. Yeah, I mean 715 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 3: my whole the last ten years of my life, I've 716 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 3: been living in training camp. Everywhere I'm at, it's just 717 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 3: I'm training and fighting and training. So you know, I'm 718 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 3: back here in Louisiana between fights, and I got buddies 719 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 3: and local fighters who I can help prepare. I have 720 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 3: a gym here. I'm having fun. And then when it's 721 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 3: when it's time to really crunch down and get to 722 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 3: get to the business, I go out to Florida and 723 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 3: walk myself away. 724 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 5: Well one for one man. The results certainly speak for themselves. 725 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 5: And I guess your daughter's not in school yet, so 726 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 5: she can come along. And everything works out right. So 727 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 5: a couple rapid fire questions with you on the way 728 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 5: out here. So Daniel Cormier, and you know this, he 729 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 5: says that you and not him, are the king of 730 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 5: lafay at Louisiana. Now you're living back in your home state, 731 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 5: so there's no argument anymore. But who's the bigger New 732 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:06,719 Speaker 5: Orleans Saints fan? 733 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 6: Is he? 734 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 2: The bigger football guy. 735 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 7: Than you are. 736 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 3: I mean, I was at the game Sunday, So what 737 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 3: do you think? 738 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? 739 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go. You did you play any other 740 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 5: sports growing up? And if so, what was your best sport? 741 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 3: I played football when I was younger. Yeah, man, even 742 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 3: a little bit in high school. 743 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 5: I bet you could crack all right, Forest Griffin, I 744 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 5: know you could, all right, Forest Griffin. He talks to 745 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 5: me a lot about overpopulation. He told me to stop 746 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 5: after two kids, so over under two and a half 747 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 5: kids for Dustin Pourier, under under smart. 748 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 3: Man, under man one. Maybe a couple of years ago, 749 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 3: I thought, you know, but now one is a handful. 750 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 3: I can only imagine, you know, more than two. 751 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 2: All right. 752 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 5: Finally, toughest fight for you at one hundred and fifty 753 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 5: five pounds is it Conor McGregor, Tony fergusbib, Normago Mattov 754 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 5: or someone I'm not mentioned. 755 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 3: H That's tough to say, but probably keeping Kabibra off 756 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 3: your legs and building back up when he does get 757 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 3: take downs, of stopping him for twenty five minutes would 758 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 3: be the toughest fight, the most grinding plight. 759 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 5: Most contenders won't even answer that question. But I know 760 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 5: you're confident enough in your skills against all these guys. 761 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 5: If you get your shot, you'll maximize it. So hopefully 762 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 5: that first UFC title shot comes for you at some 763 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 5: point in twenty eighteen. As for twenty seventeen, unbeaten all year, 764 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 5: and I gotta think nice to get that main event 765 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 5: in before the holidays. So thank you for the time, 766 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 5: my man. We just wanted to shine a little spotlight 767 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 5: on you because this schedule keeps going and you deserve it. 768 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 5: So wish you the best and hopefully we'll catch up 769 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 5: before your next fight. 770 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 3: Man, I appreciate that, man, Thank you guys. 771 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 2: The John Anak and Kenny Florian Podcast as a TJ. 772 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 2: DeSantis production. 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